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Okay. Cool. Let's go live anyway. So we have seen lots of people on LinkedIn at least we were live on LinkedIn. This is great. We got something live on LinkedIn. I think The connections was incorrect. That's what I Okay, cool, we can see me live. So let's continue with today's talk Hello, everybody. This is Dr. Nancy Lee. We also have people live with us on Zoom. All right. So here is well, we are going to do today and Okay, we're going to do live resume review happy Thanksgiving everybody Thank you for bearing with me regarding the live event that's Quite interesting the links. It's not working, but people can see me live right now. Okay, somehow you get it Okay, great. So Let's do this quick introduction and this is Dr. Nancy Lee a director product feature in force of how 100 people land a dream p.m Job offer in fan companies that unicorn startup and continue to become a product manager proud leader in these companies and Our highest paid students is getting paid $800,000 per year working for Meta L7. Very excited to see everyone out there and also including VP a product In some unicorn startups and it's also one some of my students and doing a kick-ass job out there and Today when we go live, we are trying to do live resume review for people to get ready for the upcoming p.m career and let's talk about the agenda today and Anyone who want to do live resume review here's what you do. Okay, so submit your resume We also have four people on Zoom with us. Feel free to email me a resume live right now So, let me show you guys. What is the email you can go for My resume review. Hold on. Let me bring on my slides Here, let me share my screen. Here's how you send your resume. Okay, so those are here's the instructions and Oh First one to celebrate. Okay. So Lots of people saying hey I don't have product management background and actually lots of you will become a p.m Even if they don't have product management background such as our students Matthew And we always love to tell two minutes Inspiring story for all of our students because I want to feel like you can do the same thing and Lots of you guys just having some mental block and you're not working hard to be frank Lots of people give up early. They didn't even try hard. They may be tried apply for 10 jobs, whatever five and Talk to a few friends and the friends said oh, it's impossible to become product manager And then your friends gave up and you give up just because other people give up as well So lots of you give up early. So that's why I like to share with you any Inspiring stories of our hundred students. So one of the examples out there. Okay, so Matthew He's a designer and he doesn't have a college degree He never went to college. She never have a bachelor degree at all. Yes He worked for Microsoft for even 11 years, but he's mainly working on designer never went to college He just spent a lot of time working working working to gain his Design experience, but recently he became a senior product manager at Trimbo. So Trimbo Is like a 10,000 people company and very excited for him to actually join a medium-sized company making great Impact at the senior PM. All right, so he here's what he did First of all, we repackage his entire resume because his resume is very designer resume that looks exactly just a designer There's many different things when you change when people transition to PM So that's why I want to do libraries and review today We'll give you examples how you can change your resume as well. And then next part when people get started with their PM career So lots of time when Matthew was talking about his past experiences all from the angle designing something For customers. Well, in reality, it's creating a strategy to put up roadmap and features for the customers So people start to learn what's the best way to Repackage their stories and get into network. Okay, so that's how Matthew Transform from a designer into a senior product manager. Okay, and I want all of you guys to use similar strategy like how he did it here and And also make sure to take a screenshot right now and go to our website documents.ly.com I'm such 50 fan to download all the interview questions and back at 50 into the question database They can use to get ready for upcoming interviews This interview questions can be for fan company non-fan companies because even chocolate company like Hershey start to ask for a design For a case interviews as well. So everyone to just get ready regardless. You're any fan or non fan companies Okay, so now here's how to send your resume. Okay, so important information. Here's how you send your resume right now Anybody who can see me live? Right now you can see me live right now Go here email me a Nancy a doctor Nancy Lee calm With your resume your email title Aaron pay close attention Including people on zoom right now and you can do live resume do this right now, okay? The email title should be live resume review and tell me when Was the last time you registered for our master class. So what is master class is? this one Learn how to create key to put a portfolio in two weeks that will lend you a PM job offer during the session even if you go reject again again and or if no confidence no PM experience or You were recently off. Okay with or without experience part of photos won't help you significantly grow your career Okay, so this is this is what you need to do. All right, so Now why we prioritize webbing on attendees and when people attend a master class with teaching how to build a part of a photo We also want them to have their resume ready So the as soon as they finish the resume ready portfolio ready, they can directly apply for jobs. Okay We have already had hundreds people already attending master class. So if you attend a master class, let me know So you get priorities Alright, so if not, you stay until the end. We'll try to use as much time as possible to go through everyone's Resume today. Okay, but you must tell me when did you attend the master class and email title? Email Nancy at documents.ly.com. Okay, so now we also have people who's watching Recordings and you can eat if you're watching recordings later on you can email an info at PMS error die. Oh email my team Okay, so and then she's gonna send you the zoom invitation for you to Join me for my next week's next Wednesday's live. Okay, so now what am I live email me? Well, I'm not live email my team. Okay two options to do that right away. Okay, so Now let's do this and here's what you do Let me go to my inbox and one can see my screen right now So what's that? So sharing Let me go to my inbox and put people up Okay Well, I haven't seen and I see people sending emails right now Cool. All right. So send me a resume live. Let me also put up my email in the chat. So you guys have it Okay Oh, huh, so some of you guys still couldn't find the Nick the email. So let me share. Let me share my link My slides right now. Here's my email Nancy at drnancy.com Let me put it in the chat Okay, you think you have it in the chat I still LinkedIn you can see me live on LinkedIn. Let me know I think something's weird I don't know. Sorry today. We'll have some tech issues Okay, so let me Okay, so I am live on LinkedIn and then can flow somehow Okay, so I put in my email Nancy doc Nancy Lee in the chat. You guys can directly email me resume Okay, let me also go to YouTube. It's kind of weird We have some tech issues. Sorry about this. It happens Oh Okay, cool. I also see Richard on YouTube. So YouTube is live right now. And let me see do we have everything we have Yeah, I see shy your Resume came in awesome. Should I reply to your to your original email? And let me know when was the last time you turned the masterclass because one prior has people who already attended masterclass Okay, so what is masterclass come here now once I show you, you know when talking about this one? Okay, I Believe people on zoom you already attended masterclass. That's why you email my team So the masterclass is this how to create a key to portable Portion in two weeks, even if you're laid off or have zero PM experience Okay, so this one is for people who ready to create part of a photo But before they come in we teach them how to have the resume ready. So that's why if you already attended masterclass I want you to tell me you did and or you already registered for the future masterclass either one is fine. Okay, so we're going to Make sure your resume is ready. So that's why there's a priority is what we try to finish as As much as possible. Okay Cool, I believe I am good to go right here. Let me see who else is here Cool Are you and hello, how are you and Homa and also Generic I saw your comment. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you for confirming with me. You can see me live awesome. So great so let's do this and All right, so let's go through people on zoom first and when people are responding to me Right now shy if you haven't attended or if you haven't registered for the future ones I was I will keep you towards the end. Okay, because people who already attended on zoom with me right now Okay, so let me do this on zoom. We have How to pronounce your name NGOC is Is that This is your name correct. Hello, I see neck her Camera is off. Okay. Cool. We also have Home, how are you? Do you you're on my live zoom right now? I believe my team sent you the zoom link Okay, do you want to do a live resume review? You're typing something and same thing as Us mom if you're ready, feel free to unmute yourself for people on the room. Okay Cool, I am feel free to directly send me a resume. Okay Well, at the same time, let's do this. I think people are Sharing something cool. So let me do this on me directly Review this resume Okay Can you guys see my screen? Yes, you can. Okay. So shy semi his resume and Let me review the shy senior product manager Experience great question. Let me see how many pages you have. There's three pages First of all, you can totally fit it in two. You don't need three pages. Something is like this margin everything to brought Okay, so let's see how to improve your resume already senior PM in Canada. This is great Revolutionize the platforms search capability You are missing many PM keywords. I don't see a resume will be selected Through the systems or by recruiters because missing many keywords. I will show you later Let me read the second paragraph Okay, so the biggest problem for this resume is we don't know what product You were building What is it your product for example Revolutionize the platform search capabilities. Are you saying that you build a search product? Patient feedback. Did you are you saying that you launched patient feedback system? Is this your product? um Are you also saying that you launch another AI driven Moderation systems are those your product? Okay, so the main problem of this resume is It wasn't very obvious regarding what exactly is a product you have launched if you launched something say that launched ABCD product Spearhead is something implementing something means what are you a consultant implementing something? McKenzie comes out and implement something as well But McKenzie they just they have layoffs right now PCG will lay off 30% of the employees as we know public news It's crazy. McKenzie frees hiring as well. What do you mean by implementing? Okay? We don't like consultant because consultant are not part managers, right? So this sunset comes out and we don't even know what what did you do the problem is was it sounds like consulting resume? It's completely incorrect We don't know are you doing implementation as a consultant or project manager or as an engineer or you literally launched a Product if you launch you say launch ABCD product and then which product is also not very obvious I say you launched three product If say if you launch three plus a launch three product including platform search whatever patients feedback Whatever AI moderation systems if you want to say it say it that way Okay, this most important things very confusing doesn't sounds like a PM senior PM resume And now you call yourself senior PM, which is also very awkward. I don't see this as a senior PM at all Okay, so now second thing Second thing is the roles responsibilities of senior PM is also missing at the senior PM We don't do this spearhead introduction of this one again. What does this is a McKenzie consultant? No, they're having huge layoffs right now Okay, so what product manager will be doing? Let's say you use this one as example How would you write your resume as a product manager is the following which you say? the Launched if the spearhead is again, I don't even understand spearhead I mean in the product management world We don't use this word at all. Okay, so if I'm a product manager, I would say the following launched a patient feedback systems Empowered by clouds or empowered by AI or Describe what the season is so it's like automated patient feedback system you can describe that way describe your product or AI AI driven Patient feedback systems you can describe that way. Okay, and then how we launch this product you can talk about for agreement by leading a team of 20 engineers and Conducted the voice of customer interviews of like 200 patients in The clinical network to understand the needs desire and pain point So that you're able translated into engineering facing requirements and user stories I will also write a separate woody point saying the following created the ABCD product roadmap and Prioritized product features You're missing all of this Sounds like a fake PM title but working as a consultant the whole thing Okay, I think about this anyone McKenzie consultant can just do what you did and then they change consultant to senior PM Oh McKenzie comes out and become part of manager. No, it doesn't work that way Okay, you literally need to do what the PM is doing or reflect what you are doing as a product manager Okay, having a title not doing the right thing is wrong and your resume will never be picked by Recruiters and will never be picked by the online systems either if you want to talk about the impact It's great. You can put it into achievement session, but just whatever you did doesn't sound like a PM So that's a main problem on your resume. Okay, so now let me show you some free resources and you completely read your resume Come here To your channel Okay so On my channel you come to here I have a resume playlist Okay, most important thing is wrote it very incorrectly. Oh pause pause pause here. Oh Go back here Pause here for example The way to write a better is in this resume. I give you a specific example how would you write it for example interview customers starting market trends to understand the needs come and convert them into Action more engineering facing the stories and prioritize your stories and requirements, right? So this is what primary is doing is done and what a consultant is doing is like something very broad what you put on your resume is very very Broad which we don't understand why you said your resume that way I guarantee you your resume will not be selected for any interview Okay, so now go back and change your resume shy. Okay Cool, let me see Oh Shree Cool street. I got your resume as well. And let me stop sharing this one. Am I what what screen sharing? Okay, cool I'm sharing this. Okay. Shree. I got your resume E7 minutes ago and Who's someone a canoe I got your resume as well, so both of you guys make sure to email me back Let me know when did you register for our masterclass and register for the future ones? Let me know in the day if you register from the past the old ones Let me know as well because one of priority has people who already registered for the masterclass because our goal is finished All the resume review so that they are ready to apply for the jobs. Okay Let me share this link to LinkedIn and YouTube so you guys can follow and know what to do Okay, just put it there Okay, let me go to you too Okay, great. Cool. Now. Let me let me put up the next resume So now people on zoom if you have any questions feel free to unmute yourself Or push your questions in the chat same thing as everyone else who is watching us live on YouTube and LinkedIn Okay, so let me do this Me share my screen for the next resume Okay, we have our resume Ready Okay, three resume you said already a p.m For two years. Let me see Many problems Launch of new product So Well, this is a much better resume. Okay, so I think this is good this resume in general is good The reason I like this resume is that they have impact also has the real road Responsibilities, that's what the p.m real p.m needs to do. Okay product roadmap features different thing That's what p.m is doing as I compare with prior resume someone has a senior p.m title But does everything has nothing to do with p.m. Or at least what you presented has nothing to do with p.m. So That one is like weird resume. Okay So this one's way better and the only thing is missing is this no strategy component for example, um Joe product roadmap Like managed product roadmap or the strategy component is missing as a product manager Okay, and also create a go-to-market strategy or create product visions All the product strategy or the strategy side is missing, but the rest is good Okay, the rest is good. Good job. Good job. Who is this person should be a good job Clearly, I believe you must watch my youtube channel That's why and you have most of keywords I was looking for. So what is the keywords? Um, I won't come here. Let me show you the keywords need to put on your resume I'm sure it's a p.m. Two p.m. Keywords In this video Okay, must have put a manager keywords learning the p.m. Interviews. Okay Those are in this video. I gave you like 15 p.m. Keywords And tell you different kind of keywords such as this this this Tell you different kind of keywords You should put on your resume. So you write it better and it's going to increase success with significantly When you're selected for any upcoming interview. Okay, so I believe Shrema's watch this video. That's why he has she had lots of p.m. Keywords there But she's meeting missing and leadership keywords, which is uh Something you can catch up soon. Okay Cool. Okay, great. So let me pull up the next resume. Let me go Oh, people ask me the email. We should just send me the resume right here Come here Email me a resume at nancy.nancy.com live Okay, directly email this to me and when I'm not live email my team and info p.m. A certain dial either one is Fine, but right now email me directly because I put on my live Email as we're speaking. Okay, this is critical Um Then you're good to go email me and also let me know when was the last time you attend the master class. What is the master class? Go to darkness v.com And slash master class or you go to just go to the home page if the one is fine Right here and go to the home page You directly come here. Okay. The very first big button is here Okay, so once we have this ready And so because in the master class, we teach you how to build a part of portfolio How to create part of portfolio in two weeks, even if you're having layoff or have zero p.m. Experience Okay And we want to have your resume ready And so that you have we can build your part of portfolio after the master class And then immediately go out for job interviews. Okay, so that's why you get prioritized And so email me and let me know when was the last time attend master class or one of the one you already Recently registered either one is fine. Okay So, um, now let me let me bring up the next Resume in my inbox Too many tabs open Oh, Kevin, I got your email and let me know when did you attend master class or when the future master class You just registered. Okay. I got your email as I said required has people uh people already registered for The master class. Okay. Shui. I got your email as well. Cool. Now, let me let me pull up this person's resume quickly Um Kenyan How to pronounce your name? Let me let me do this How to pronounce your name Jayani Jayani I don't know. So currency of students Senior product manager intern good for you I Why everybody likes to say spearhead is something we hate a product manager hate consultant style of resume spearhead is something is what Did you launch a product? Did you lead the product? I use a product owner. I use a product manager Spearhead means nothing or did you implement it something? Okay, so what do you mean by spearheaded spearhead? Did you build it? Did you develop it? I what do you mean spearheaded? I Get to the point spearhead development. Are you saying that you Develop the feature instead of you Serving as a product manager to launch the feature, right? Very weird Do not say spearheaded at all moving forward when we see these keywords Immediately you get disqualified. It's like what the heck is this guy doing? Okay, um five year roadmap for app store Research much market opportunities um Conduct what is the kind of interview App store Amazon how to do the app store what I mean Romance for app store search Amazon app store search. Okay All right So basically this you do a roadmap I would talk more regarding engagement with users Conduct user interview. Maybe you can say how many users have you talked to For your user interview conduct user interviews with 100 users 200 users. Whatever you want to talk about. Okay Senior software engineer. Yeah, that's what I that's what I guess to be frank You were a software engineer the whole time in the past of the history and then your spearhead is something Sparehead development of something. Well, it's likely you might be hired by amazon as a software engineer Then you develop it and then you say your spearhead is something which make people confused. What exactly did you do? Are you a p.m? I don't know. So that's why when When the recruiters will ever read this is that maybe he is a software engineer He put a p.m. title. Also people just put a fake p.m. Title. Okay, let's just We can tell okay easily we can tell during the resume review We can also tell doing the first round interview right away. Okay, you can you can put whatever fake titles You're liable for whatever you put, but you don't present yourself the right way. It's very weird Um Cool. Okay. So now yeah, just add more More numbers regarding how many customers do you interview? And you say you define the value proposition. Do you work with other people define the value proposition? And so this need to be enriched a little bit more. Okay, cool uh, and then make things the beginning and and looks like you did amazon app store As a product. This is cool. All right. And also tell us the size of team In collaboration with product marketing. How many people in you collaborate with you can add it here as well Nice Let me go to next one Mohammed, I got your resume as well as I said You need to tell me when was the last time you attend master class or If you had registered for the future master class, cool Oh Let me see Last monday kevin attended last month. Okay, great. So you get priorities. Let me do this Um, let me show you my screen and we'll see what did we get right now kevin The manager on my own Of michigan, so there's a company name. Very cool Let's launch What is lms? You should be specific. What is lms platform? Well, there's several industry terms Please i'm a crm different things Cloud ai people know it l lms if it's not very broad Why be known in different industries in your spell out? Okay Create a part of vision Then mark here with subscription business model return Defining requirement High clickable Color card letters, read runs with ability testing and Transferring one change. Very cool No, I'm not sure. So your your new commentary. Okay. So kevin, here's what you do. Okay For your resume, you must tell us what kind of product it is because when you When you join the new company, they really want to understand how much of your past product experience is relevant to the new product Let's say you join google cloud Google cloud team will be like does this guy even know cloud? They're literally trying to understand is this platform on cloud or what whatever, you know cloud, right? So there'll be some keywords we're running cloud. We joined ai company. They want to see something Oh, is this platform built on ai? We don't know Okay, you rewrite this just let us know what kind of platform. Maybe it's payment. I don't even know Whatever lms platform. What does this mean? Okay change it completely very important and Another thing I recommend you to do is you should separate It should separate. I prefer people separate roles responsibilities and um those kind of achievement directly because You streamline development team by 30 percent and then are you really doing this? Writing requirement can streamline development time by 30 percent. I think the relationship is kind of weird Okay, um, so I would rather you talk about what exactly you did as a partner manager writing requirement different things And as achievement You streamline development process With your team of 30 engineers. I wrote. I want you to separate this um Your achievement and roles responsibilities and make sure to add some strategy words as well Such as create product vision create product Go-to-market strategy and those strategy words are missing as well. Okay, and Let me see product project need You experience very short for each one. That's interesting When did you graduate? Is this the internship something? You didn't put years here. Everything's very short Sounds like just an internship Okay, it's kind of confusing. But anyway, people will ask you why everything is so short Um regarding a past experience if a recent graduate, that's no problem That would people will know why it's so short right now. He didn't put a year So we don't know the it's very confusing why it's so short So that people need to understand are you people do not like people who only work for company for a year Enjoy another company for another year and join another company for another year Uh, we usually don't like those candidates. So I think you should be More clear and transparent regarding what what what's going on with your very short experience Okay, so that's the main problem Now let me go to the next one Uh Perrage And cool. Let me know when was the last time you attend a master class or when was the new one you have registered Let me know as well. So let me go through whoever Um Already responded. So we'll have priorities Mu Muhammad's register for tomorrow's master class. Okay, so let's make sure you have your resume is ready before you go in Not for proper university. Oh, you are very cool So you're getting a bachelor's degree good for you You already got a bachelor's degree and then recently you are part of manager at this company Work with product services using interviews Significantly improves and And The problem with this resume is I know you work for startup. That's why you report CEO Okay, if you work for startup, it's likely you're gonna do many different things. Okay, but you're applying for pm jobs So therefore when you apply for pm jobs, let's talk about 80 percent things regarding product Like this is all product Right and and then there's something that's not very product driven I will reduce the ones that's not product driven because your experience very messy. You have many different stuff On your resume that we know is not pm focus that we also know in the startup We do many different random stuffs that we need to understand how much of your time it actually related to product management So I'd rather you only talk about things related to product Okay, so you can talk about all design part of vision different things. This is good regarding product User ab testing is good and something down below if it's not has Not much to do It's very little to do with product I would devide this is a distraction for everyone to read something Knowing that you're doing many different things in a startup. So that's a main problem Okay, another thing is I will move the education down below Unless a fresh graduate you already graduated over a year ago two years ago Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2020. So you graduate two years ago. Why you put your School so upfront. I will move it all the way towards the bottom. Okay, and then remove lots of things that's not pm focus. That's the key Okay No, let me come here There is somebody who emailed me without even a name in the email so sketchy So I'm not going to review this one. This guy has no name My resume his email title is my resume. No name nothing. I'm not going to open it might be virus Okay, so now, um Let me go to this one Piyash, let me read. Let me review resume quickly Piyash, you're Graduating a year and a half. No one year. You're graduating one year from now And uh, you have an internship ready. Let me see Work experience teaching manager. Um, there's all school thing. Oh What do you do this summer? Okay, come on So basically you're teaching a school. Okay. Um, and you did something back in India Oh You are In a big trouble. Okay Frank advice Piyash Your last summer internship is not really doing anything You should have done something pm related even do a volunteer work even unpaid job Is better than what you have right now. Okay, do a teaching job at school It's not something schools or employers really appreciate. Okay So you wasted last summer, but I know north northeastern Northeastern University very well because I want to be you next door Northeastern a co-op program that led you to work in the middle school So you should at least find some kind of volunteer work anything you can find Okay to really enrich your experience and the same Um, it's just in general. It's it's not very very impressive what you did Probably the manager This is fine So And you did something and not people doing spearhead is something again It's like who would just like to copy this random words As a consultant McKenzie comes out and did that. Yes. McKenzie BCG lay off 30% of employees while you follow them. They are getting laid off All right. So don't follow People who laid off. Okay. Follow the right ways how people end the job. Okay, ignore how you write your resume Okay. Um, so those are good those technical keywords are good. Um, as part of the manager I want to talk more regarding Agile methodology if use agile methodology as a product development manager You should talk more regarding agile the problem is this what you did in school to say whatever you did in school It's not very impressive. You need to find even volunteer opportunities to really catch up with your experience That's the main thing. Okay. You still have one year to graduate That's just that you put something that's not impressive on your resume Um, I'd rather you do some projects better than what you did in school. So you're doing a teaching job. Okay So that's what's going on cool, um now I think I review all the resumes I think I review And whoever emailed me And email. Oh my goodness. Sounds us Okay, whoever emailed me Um, it's using Elon Musk picture in the email And didn't follow the email template. I asked people to email me which in terms of resume review And also tell me when was the last time 10 masterclass whatever you didn't really write in the right way the way you put it Also put the Elon Musk pictures in your in your email. Well, well, I don't open this. Okay. Sorry guys This sounds a spam or virus Okay, and the the top secrets The email the email name is top secret. Okay spam. Please don't email me. Well, at least I won't open it Okay, so the other I believe I review all the resumes. Uh, I did I did I review all the resumes whoever submitted Awesome awesome and congratulations. Whoever is getting ready for the upcoming Interviews get your resume ready. Okay. So let's do this Uh, let me share with you the must watch resources and we can close for today's live training and Where is the first train here? Everybody make sure to watch this video and the whole playlist For resume once you watch those four resumes, you will know it gives our four videos Then you know exactly what to do To write a resume. Okay for this four you watch those you you will be resume ready Okay, and then make sure to download the resume template Um TM resume can directly in the description of the video can directly download the resume template right here And putting your information will send to your inbox and then you can directly go out To lend you a next dream came job offer another quick reminder is that you guys must know that The recruiting season actually immediately coming in January. So we have one month to get ready So please study anything you have missed So get ready for the primary recruiting season coming up in one month from now on and using december to Brush out everything and learn everything about program management. Okay. So oh another quick reminder anybody just Try to fake it. Uh, I don't I don't want people to fake it because we're getting fired Okay, you need to learn it until you make it learn anything regarding program management And really do I do the part of a photo which I recommend everyone to do that's the best way to really do it Okay, you need to do it before you make it not fake it until you make it. Okay, fake it I'll make it get people fired. All right. I hate the terms forever invent the fake it until I make it. I don't know They might get fired and I'll tell you fake until you get fired Go ahead. Okay. So everyone needs to do it and learn it and also the best way to do it is build a part of a photo That's why I go to masterclass if you learn how to build a part of a photo um and get ready and People who ever missed us go to Tell my team you can join me next week. Oh, this is masterclass. Go to docnancy.com Okay, my website and then you directly come to this link Okay, docnancy.com this link And you will get everything you need and also you can email my team when I'm not live email team it info a p.m accelerator dial which has all the information You need she can invite you to my next live to review your resume. Okay, great. Cool. All right I'm gonna see you guys next week and best of luck for anyone who is having your next Um interview. Okay, great. Cool. Talk soon. Bye I'll make sure to hit the like button if you find this video And the free training valuable make sure to like and share this and comment. Okay. Let me know. All right