 I'm going to go meet my special friends. Remember, you can't tell anyone. What you saw happened more than 50 years ago. The five-year-old girl followed her brother's advice. She never told anyone about her experience. In fact, suppressed the memory deep inside herself. But her brother, Steve, remembered. Ten years ago, my sister called. And she told me that she just had hypnosis. And was thoroughly upset with me that I didn't tell her about my little gray friends. Which was a mystery to me, because she was there. And she'd kind of taken over my friends. What is the problem here? Why doesn't she know about it? And to this day, it's a total mystery why she doesn't remember. In 1992, I was in the hospital with a very serious illness for three months. And I went home. And I took several months for me to get back to normal. And during that period of time, I started thinking about, guys is going to make me cry. For the next year after I was recuperating from my illness, I started thinking about UFOs and not necessarily aliens. But UFOs, and I really wanted to get some information on them. I wasn't really sure why. Because I'd never really been interested in them before. I'd never read anything about them. I had heard that people had been hypnotized and found out information. And I wondered, maybe there was something in my past that would have something to do with this. Because it just came up all of a sudden. And so I went to a hypnotherapist. And I was hypnotized. And it came up. I really didn't believe that I had anything. I didn't remember anything. Nobody ever said anything. But in my hypnotherapy, it came up that I was, when I was very small, I was walking with my brother down by this river. And we'd seen a spacecraft. And that we'd gone on board. And it didn't upset me. It was very interesting to me. But I didn't really believe it. I thought, it's just really my imagination. And I don't understand hypnosis. And I don't know what this is all about. So I called my brother. And I said, I had the strangest thing happen. And I had hypnosis. And they said, and I said that I remember you and I going down by the river and seeing these aliens in this spaceship. He says, do you remember anything? He said, well, yeah, don't you remember going and meeting our little friends? I said, no, I didn't remember anything about it. And so then he told me that, as children, we used to go play with the aliens down by the river. And I asked him if he knew anymore. And he said, no, that he didn't remember anything else. But he thought there was more. And that he knew that I went with them all the time as a child. And he didn't understand why I couldn't remember. And I tried, but there wasn't anything in my memory of any of that at all. So I underwent hypnosis several more times. And some more stuff came out about aliens and spaceships and my brother. And it kind of got confusing to me because I didn't really understand what was going on. I didn't remember why I couldn't remember any of it. And so I called some of my friends. And one of my friends, Bill, said, well, yeah, don't you remember the time the light came and chased my car? And I said, no, I remember anything like that. I remember anybody telling me about UFOs or anything anytime. And so he told me the story. And then I called a couple other friends and they said, yeah, they'd seen stuff and had different kinds of encounters. And that they remembered that all of it. And I remember still I didn't remember anything kind of in my search to find out what the truth was for me. I decided I'd try to be a remote viewer. And so in 1995, I was trained as a remote viewer and worked as a remote viewer for four years. And it was very successful. And with remote viewing, you can see UFOs and craft and the ETs. And I think I felt at that time it was real. But it still wasn't real to me. And about in August, it just came back and said, I have to tell this story. And I called my brother and my friends and said, are you guys ready to talk about the story? And they said, yes. That's where we are now. Remembering the incident, it's just like we were just sitting there talking verbally. Describe the freedoms. They were both the same size. They were about, oh, gosh, they must have been three and a half or four foot high, both the same size. They had little bitty, little bitty noses that may have protruded an eighth of an inch and two little nostril holes and real thin lips and small mouths. And their mouths would move. Their eyes didn't move. Their eyes are totally black. And their eyes go sideways. You see all these E.T. pictures here and there. And the eyes go up. They slant up. These don't slant up. They go straight across. But they're all not. And they're big. And the last few months have kind of discovered that every time I talk about it, oh, I don't know why. Both Linda and her brother, Steve, agreed to undergo hypnosis. Would you want to see your friends? Yeah. Remember, that's what we were here for. Yeah. To see your friends. Yeah. Can't you push through the black space? Oh, I can't. Why? I want to. Come on. I can't. Push through it. I'm sorry. Push through it. I can't. You get to see your friends. I can't. I can't go. Did someone stop in you? No. Did anybody else meet your friends? Did you ever take your sister to meet your friends? Yeah, my sister went. You're doing great, Steve. You're doing great. But when you took your sister, that's your sister. Every time you went, they were there? Yeah. Yeah. You really seen them more than one time, didn't you? I think so. Yeah. Many times. I think so. They were kind. Yes. Did they smile? No. How come? How about their eyes? Can you see their eyes? Yes. How would you describe their eyes? What kind of body do they have? Do they have a body like yours? Skinny, yeah. Really skinny body? But you get kind of emotional when you think about your friends, don't you? Yeah. An emotional happy feeling? Yes. So the emotions are happy for them? Yes. So that's why you're crying, because you're happy. So these friends are nice to you? Yes. Linda's hypnosis began with Robert Houdak. I don't find that people can fake ab reactions in hypnosis. And ab reaction might be something like a cold sweat, a shake, nervousness, some kind of a body movement. I haven't found that to be something that seems to be easily faked. Houdak's work was followed by sessions with Dr. R. Leo Sprinkel. My name is Leo Sprinkel. I'm a counseling psychologist in Laramie, Wyoming. I served as a professor at the University of Wyoming for 25 years. Like any UFO researcher, I'm always interested in more information, more knowledge about UFO phenomena, about ET encounters. However, personally, because of my own UFO experiences, I'm always impressed with the courage, the strength of character that it takes for someone to come forward and discuss his or her experience. And anybody who does this knows that there are not only social risks, but in some cases there are vocational, professional risks. And even some people are security for their families or even their own lives. And so I always am impressed whenever people are willing to take the risk to come forward to talk about their experience. Many of the hypnosis sessions were monitored by a medical doctor. I've been present at many hypnosis sessions dealing with the UFO phenomenon. What interested me most was the physiologic response of the subjects. I've witnessed racing poles, quickening of breathing, stiffening of the body, fear, pain, and the disappearance of fear and pain as a hypnotic suggestion. My opinion, these physiologic effects would not be faked. These were real experiences. The subjects were feeling pain, or fear, or seeing frightful objects, or happy times, or real emotions. The Air Lodge, a small tight-knit community lying in this picturesque valley in Montana. Clean place, quiet place, nice place to live. Howdy, I'm Jim Mars. I'm here to tell you one of the most fascinating stories I've encountered in my years as a journalist and author. You see, every little town has its secrets, but this town has a secret that's well out of this world. Let's check it out. Linda's quest led her on a journey back to her roots. Back here to Deer Lodge, population 3,000, a relic of the Manning Boom. Most of the young folks' only concern was how to get out of here. Linda contacted old friends in High School Chums and was amazed to find out that they too had had strange and unusual experiences. Intrigued, Linda began to uncover the town's incredible secret. Linda spoke to many of the town's folks. Some didn't want to go public, but others agreed to speak to the camera. The ladies and their husbands were up at an area out of town. They were snowmobiling. And when they were coming back, no, they were at the campfire. I'm sorry, they're at the campfire. And all of a sudden, the dogs started going crazy. They heard a sound. My name is Vrita Klosson. And I live here in Deer Lodge. We were up at Orofino, snowmobiling. And Helen Shaffer was with me. And the group left us by the campfire. And it was a black night. We were standing around the campfire of ourselves. And we had our dog Andy. And the heroin Andy's back stood up. And we were in the mountains. And the man had gone snowmobiling. And we were kind of waiting around the fire. And all of a sudden, we could hear this. Then we heard some noises. And they were kind of high pitched. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. It wasn't a fast noise. It was just a slow noise. It was a high pitched beep, beep kind of sound. We all got scared. It was a freaky noise, something. We knew there were no power lines or anything up in that area. So we knew that it couldn't be anything like that. And the guys set up on the top of the mountain. They didn't see any tracks of any sort. Because people had been seeing UFOs around it about that time. Oh, we were ready to go home. Yeah, it was scary. And it was something that we didn't know what it was. We're used to the timber and up in the mountains and that. But this was a sound that we'd never heard before. People had talked a lot about spaceships at that time. And we just imagined, well, maybe that's what it was. I'm Elaine. And I'm a friend of Buck and Helen Schaefer. Helen Schaefer is Buck's spouse. Buck is deceased. But he did tell me about an encounter that he had. I can't remember if it was morning or evening. But he is going down the road and does see a light. Just all of a sudden a light hovering over the road. And he did stop. And then it took off. Said, I know it was a UFO. I think is how he referred to it as a UFO. I'd go up in one if I had a chance. This leads to an area known as Redgate. Used to be the favorite teen parking spot. You know what I mean. They call it Redgate because at the entrance was an old wooden gate very much like this one, painted red. This was the hub of all the strange activity. What we're talking about tonight is the legend of Redgate. Just tell me what you know about the legend of Redgate. Well, the way I had heard it from my own dad was there was an old man. And somehow or another he had gotten in trouble. There was an involvement with some, I think it was his sons that had gotten killed or were murdered on his homestead out there just to the east of town. Everybody just seemed to think it was a possessed area, something with the devil. But nobody seemed to know the whole story behind it or why it was supposedly possessed. Well, when we were in high school, the exciting thing to do was to drive up to Redgate and try to scare anybody that you could. The story was that there was a man that had killed his family up there some way or another. And the story that I heard was that he had painted the gate with blood. That's how the name Redgate came. Redgate was the place, the only place that I knew of that you could go and just being in the place, being in that place, being in the area was a very spooky, very scary place to be. As with most urban legends, the blood on the gate story proved false. This story of the blood on the gate and all of this stuff. I never had heard of that my whole life growing up, that particular story. The only thing I ever knew about were these lights and everything. A check with the local sheriff showed there was no record of such a crime, but something even stranger turned up. I'm Scott F. Howard, Paul County Sheriff. I have had rumors or heard that other people in the community have had encounters with the UFOs. Does that go back over a period of years? Yes. Most of the reports that I have heard have been on the east side of Dear Lodge. I've heard of a spot that's been called Redgate on the east side of Dear Lodge. The sheriff directed me here to this bakery owned by Louis Manacucci. Louis and his family for many years lived in the Redgate area. Boy did he have some stories to tell. Just it'd be just a circle. And then down on the bottom here is it's kind of concave sort of. Well, I wouldn't say if it's concave or straight because it's always at night. And but around there is all the way around this deal. As lights, they blink all the way around like that. They just blink. Since it's in the night, what is this? Is the big part? All you can just see is no. All you can see is just a black. Just, yeah, just images of something there. Images of dark with this little rain in the middle. Have you ever seen the top of one? No. This is what I've been looking at from the bottom. Right. One time during the night, one lit set down. And I climbed up the mountain behind me and I went to peek up over the top to get a look down in there. And I just about was 10 feet from the top of the mountain and that sucker gone. So either they had like sensors or it could be us. It could be the United States. It could, you know what I mean? That's what I kind of figured that. It's water and hulls such as this that form the center of the town's social activity as the night grows longer. So do the stories. Stop and go comments. That was 12 or 13 years ago. I'd been around 90, 91. Just spotted what it would look like. Maybe it was a meteorite or a small comet. But it didn't hang like a comet. It would move and get real bright, kind of leave a trail. And it would stop. It would move another direction and stop. And did that, I don't know, I guess three, four or five minutes. And then took off in this spirit. I always watch the skies all the time to see these lights. It was dead silent. It would make your hair stand up on the back of your neck. And we'd go out there and mess around. And they tell the story on the way up. And there's different versions, but it pretty much was the same story with the blood on the gate. And they said that people's vehicles have stalled. When we'd go and meet at Town Palm for at the Safeways Park in Monk, that's where all high schools and kids met at, we would say, do you guys want to go up directly? I felt a chill down my spine. And I was being watched. I didn't know watched or stopped or danger. There was danger. It's more than airy. It even turns your stomach. Yeah, I mean, when you get that deep feeling like something ain't right or you're reading into somebody's psyche or whatever it is, you could almost burn it. It was so in your gut, like, get out of where you're at. And you do. Some people told of interaction with moving lights. Mark Denton and I grew up in Dear Lodge, Montana. About 1960, 61, we're kind of riding around the car. And up near the Emory Mine, which is east of the side of town, we saw some lights. I was supposed to be one of the smart science kids in town. And at first, I thought it might be a weather balloon with a light shining off of it. And it was not. So one day, we decided we'd chase the lights to find out what it was. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. Hurry, go. Go faster. We did that probably twice within a three-week period. Mark, go faster. There was a light. We did chase it. Never caught it. We have heard a lot of the other stories. And so, you know, one can speculate from there. At least two people remembered stories of physical events involved with the strange lights. Tom Gilbert recalled a story from high school. My name is Tom Gilbert. And I've lived here all my life. I graduated in 1965 from Powell County High School. Hey, what can you tell us about the red gate here? Well, about some light coming down and melting the paint. Oh, yeah. We were good buddies skipping it. We worked together. What did he tell you? Well, it seemed like the light just shined right down on his car. And there was some mark in the paint. Dave Foster also remembered stories of red gate. The story about red gate was, and the story that was related to me was these guys had been up to red gate. And what they'd seen was some lights coming down off the mountain. And the lights kind of stayed there a while. And then they moved around a little bit. And then they started coming at them real fast. And these two guys were with two girls and sitting out there. And it kind of scared them a little bit. And the lights came out of them real fast there towards the end. And it just kind of popped, went real white. And then that was it. And I guess when they got back to town, he was looking at the trunk of his car. And there was a little teeny burn mark right in the back of the trunk of his car. And Matt, there was nothing at all. Such stories didn't end in the 1960s and 70s. They continue to this very day. Brandon Kent and Josh Garrison, two local students, told us of their experience in the summer of 2003. We were driving along and we saw a bright light kind of just hanging up in the sky. And it confused us because there was cloud cover and it was too bright to be a star because it was... It was beneath the clouds. It was on the other side of the clouds on our side. And it just hung there for a second. And then it just zipped down into the ground almost like it was crashing. And then it was right back in the exact same spot. And it just repeated that action and then it just kind of disappeared. We didn't see it after it zipped down. The way back was like, man, what was that? Because I mean, we've never seen anything like that. We thought it was a falling star, but there's cloud cover. Unless it was two of them falling in the exact same way. Now that one dove down and one dove down after it lit up. But it was definitely, there was low clouds. It was definitely low to the ground. And it shot down and I'm up in that area a lot hunting and never seen nothing like that. It wasn't a plane. I mean, I'm flying planes a lot. It wasn't a plane. My dad's a pilot. I know what they look like going down and it was extremely fast. Really bright light. We've heard of some urban legends of the red gate up above there, it was in that red gate area. Almost farther up the road. We kind of call it. On the left hand side of the road. The east side of town, up in the mountains. Up by the Orfino campground. Up towards the Orfino. It was right on the front side of Orfino in front of this mountain. That was the first time I'd ever seen something like that. Something that you couldn't just shake off. That was a satellite. That was a star. I've seen some stuff in the sky, but nothing like that. Nothing beneath the clouds and is bright and repeating itself that fast, dropping down within that mountain. I thought I was crazy, but I didn't actually say anything at first. I just saw go down, and then these guys were like, whoa, did you see that? It was a bright glow, brighter than I've seen before. It didn't light up the sky. It was more like seeing the sun drop down twice. It was that bright, but it didn't... In the summer of 2003, just about a week and a half ago, it's July 30th today. Me and my friends were out up by Orfino, and we were driving out. We saw a light out in the field, so we stopped and we started looking at it. One of my friends was like, whoa, that's moving around. We're just like, whatever, man, we don't really pay attention. Then we started looking at it. We all started noticing that it was moving around so we look at it, our passes or so, and we start driving down the road, and we're going pretty fast, and we're all just staring at the light in amazement, watching it move. What is that? What could it be? So we go up, and we're driving along the road. We almost hit deer and stuff, but we're not paying attention to that. We're paying attention to the light. We pass it and we come back. We park, and we're pretty close. It was about a mile away, but I think it was closer than that. And the light was about this big from where we could see it. And it looked like it was going around our rotating disc almost. There's three of them. Hoping to gather more information, Linda turned to a once secret U.S. Army Intelligence Gathering process. It's called Remote Viewing. My name is Lynn Buchanan. I'm from Alamogordo, New Mexico. I was one of the controlled remote viewers for eight and a half years. And for the last seven and a half years of my time in service, I was the trainer of the unit. Most people think that controlled remote viewing is the equivalent of being psychic. Actually, it's not. What the government wanted was a method that could be taught to the dumbest grunt soldier and have him tell his commander where he was over the hill and where to point the guns. And so they started off with those people who had natural psychic ability. However, in the end, I know our last viewer had just been picked at random out of the military's personnel computer. A lot of people look on the internet for remote viewing and what they find is psychic stuff. Controlled remote viewing was the scientific process that was developed in the laboratory and used by the government and the military. In essence, the subconscious mind tends to be very psychic, but the conscious mind is not psychic at all. And so the controlled remote viewing process is simply one where you set up a line of communications between the subconscious mind and the conscious mind. That way you can have a line of communications where you can ask the subconscious specific questions and you can get back specific answers from the subconscious mind. Of course, the obvious question for your purposes is whether or not this can be used to answer the UFO question. The answer is yes, we answer questions. If you have a question about some UFO event or some UFO landing site or some abduction, we can find out whether or not the memory of that was false memory or whether it was an actual event and that has happened. If it's true, we can find out what actually happened beyond the things that the abductee remembers. If it's a false memory, we can find out what happened to cause that false memory. And so therefore this is actually a tool for finding information but you've got to remember that we go by the database. We had many individuals within the government who asked us about UFO questions and we wound up doing a good amount of UFO work on our own for questions which were asked by individuals within the government and it was unofficial tasking. So I am picking my words very closely here. The government never officially task us with any UFO questions. Did we do a lot of UFO work? We did a sizable amount and actually wound up still doing it sometimes for individuals within the government. Hi, I'm Diane Moore and I am a professional remote viewer. In 1995 I was trained by a retired military remote viewer in controlled remote viewing and then in early 1996 I was trained in scientific remote viewing. I'm Dee Leslie. I'm a trained professional remote viewer and I'm director of instruction with Farsight Institute which is a not-for-profit organization. A double blind remote viewing session is a session wherein the viewer not only has no clue what the target is but the person who is monitoring them has no idea what the target is either. So your viewer and your monitor are not front loaded at all. The only thing the monitor has are the new four digit coordinates. In this particular project the coordinates were given by someone else that did not know what the target was. Anyone involved in the viewing of these targets had no idea or had no information about the target. I'm getting raised features P4.5 The one who is in control P4.5 The one who understands. I'm going to go meet my special friends. I'm deducting telepathy that's it. I look at this as an encounter between children and an ET there was not any fear it was a casual encounter. These subjects are gray rubbery texture to skin with large heavy head. As an additional guard against any possible fakery connected to such accounts some of the major witnesses in the red gate case were submitted to a polygraph examination. The lie detector showed no evidence of deception by anyone. Bill Kelly, a classmate of Leonard Crenquist told him an experience he had as a young teenager driving late at night with two friends along this very road. We were leaving Dear Lodge after a dance and coming home down the back road and we went around the corner heading down the back road and a bright light appeared in the back in the rear view mirror it got very bright, very fast and that's kind of where it all started and this was in 1962 summer of and you were with my brother Jack and a friend Kenny and lately they looked in the back and it was coming at such a high rate of speed and we couldn't explain what was going on so they just jumped in the back seat and kind of panicked a little bit and kind of yelling at me to speed up and stuff but it got so bright I couldn't see the road to drive fast in order to drive at all and it just got bright it got dark again and kind of in a state of semi fear My name is Ron Kelly and many years ago we were growing up, my brothers Bill and Jack I can remember very specifically telling me about being out at night on the county road and the lights coming behind them and yeah I know Billy Kelly well there was him and a couple other guys and there was light following their car let yourself go back to the experience driving along the light is so bright and you're not sure what it is but let everything slow down in your perception your mind is able to be aware of what the body is experiencing what what does the body experience like light they're in the back seat every time in the front seat I had to drive I might get affected with this thing this thing looks bad there's somebody following us who the hell would be out here this time tonight I don't know but they're coming up fast and nothing's really moving we gotta go Bill speed up Bill speed up I can't I gotta keep her on the road oh man I don't like this damn that thing's bright what the hell is that thing go faster Bill you gotta go I gotta keep her on the road stop Bill don't stop don't stop Bill don't stop we gotta get home man look at the size of that thing this is unbelievable this isn't good this isn't good but it's not good it hurts to see p4.5 there are three subjects male humans athletic electro magnetic energy pulsing sketch subject some kind of a tube like thing such unworldly experiences didn't end with just Linda's friends whatever it was seemed to move through families including her own my name's Doug Kroonquist and I was born 1946 and I called Dear Lodge home it would have to be between probably 50 and 52 I suppose I was born in 46 50 would make me 4 52 would make me 6 years old somewhere's in there there was a witch that was standing on me but I don't I was scared and terrified but I was underfoot as being stood on and that's all I remember being stood on by this witch why'd you have the idea it was a witch I probably had no idea what else to call it I mean in Montana 1950 we didn't really even have Buck Rogers that was a city thing we didn't have things like that we had cowboys and Indians we had Halloween we didn't have that was things that were strange to us I remember asking my brother several times to the point where he was mad at me Steve what's a skyscraper my wife and I went to Area 51 it was in August of 1994 that night it was just starting to get dark and it was extremely loud not loud but bright flash off to our right over towards the Rachel direction which I would say right now would be north I'm not sure off to our right north just a huge bright flash but no sound and later in the evening we'd seen lights just zipping across the sky or whatever during a visit back to Montana some years ago Linda's own son had an unusual daytime experience back in the early 80s I was 12 or 13 years old and I accompanied my mother to Dear Lodge Montana for a class reunion my sister and I both went with her during this time we were out playing volleyball you hit it like a girl oh really it was very astonishing to me to see such a thing at first I thought it was a toy do you see that I turned around to my sister and I said did you see that where did it go as soon as I turned around it was gone after that time my sister and I never really spoke about it never really had any discussions about it just just random recollection it was so clear that I was thinking if it was a toy then how can it be that big and be so far away just be really big what did it look like the gray gray grayish metallic it wasn't shiny it was dull and it slanted up it was round it slanted up from the sides and kind of went in and had another little top on top of it I don't know if there's vents on the bottom circular fan things and I turned them back to her and I said I think we just saw a UFO she's like yeah that's cool P4 and a half there seems to be a male and female subjects they're human P4 and a half there's an object slash structure behind and above the subjects P4 and a half there are non-human subjects in the object I think in this session when I picked up were a male a female they were engaged in some sort of outdoor activity and then they see something in the sky that's behind them and it's high above them what happens is that they see a spaceship Linda's son said a few years later he hadn't experienced it was even more disturbing there was one occasion specifically that I recall where I was lying in bed and I was in that type of sleep that was not really away I saw this black shadowy figure coming towards me on the right side of my bed the figure itself wasn't scary at all but it was scary the fact that it was advancing towards me it felt like it was coming towards me to touch me and to reach out and grab me it had a squarish type head if you want to call it and the rest of it it didn't look like some sort of human shape a small human blonde p4.5 small blonde human rectangular surface in dark this human type of electromagnetic field around him this seems to be an event that's repeated p4.5 this nocturnal event is one that repeats other beings curious off world intelligent data gathering short p4.5 several entities non-human from another dimension no relationship or concept of time space summary basically this is a repeated type of event involving non-humans they come from off world there's no abduction there's some type of poking at the subject the subject has electromagnetic field above his head and feels nauseous and this seems to happen mainly at night and there's some type of black fuzziness associated with this event and it seems to be indoors in a bedroom she met with her brother steve and dear lodge recently and they took me along as they traced their steps to the place where they had visited with their little gray friends as the hot day grew on their memories came flooding back they came to find some way out of the country kind of hillbilly kids that would never be afraid of them we're just light gray little guys standing there and we're standing right here looking at them and we're talking and they're looking at the river and you guys see them all the time were you using your mouth talking to them with your mouth oh sure oh gosh were they talking to you with their mouth no they weren't they'd move their mouth a little bit but they didn't use their mouth they'd move it a little were you getting words or pictures words nope nope she just if I remember right she's standing on this side just chip chip chip to my friends the strange events surrounding redgate continued right on through linda cruhn crystal media family and into her extended family I'm here today with her cousin Stephanie Tush Stephanie do you recall any stories within your family of strange lights or strange events my aunt and uncle were living up in the mountains and she got up late one night to get a glass of water and she looked outside and saw this bright light so she went to the window to look out and she saw this what she described as a football shaped golden colored globe out in the field out in the pasture and she stood and watched it for a little bit and then she called for my uncle and told him to come out and look he got up and went out and they went out on their front porch and stood there and watched it and it stayed and then all of a sudden it took off into the air and hovered for a few minutes and then was just gone my aunt a dream bird mentioned that one early morning she was alarmed something I don't remember the particulars there there was something out there in the hay field a light mechanism of multilights that I remember we were talking about the whole pasture oh my goodness oh my aunt and my uncle were the type just to say these things and to me I was convinced she said she saw it she saw it couple outside standing um wondering questioning couple standing outside looking around and saying what's that do you see that what is it let me just draw what I'm seeing here okay I have some sort of oval object it's got a line and a bunch of little squares around the outside of it and some of them are dark okay and this is over and open outside area seems dark or hard to see I couldn't see you good you only got home so even after you got home you couldn't see good I wasn't afraid what about the other guys were they afraid no we talked about nothing you know you what you've seen them many times yeah lots of times I think so and you miss them yeah how many times did you meet your friends but they were always nice to you they never mean to you they never hurt you no so they were kind to you did they ever take you anywhere I don't know well I have some special glasses here I have some special glasses that you can see through the gray would you like me to put those on you let's put the glasses on you let's see if I can help you see through the gray wouldn't you would you like to talk to them again very nice to you they were your friends could it be that you miss them once they haven't been talking to you did they talk to you what did they say they were always friendly were they just as friendly to your sister yes so she liked you too yes how did you communicate with them so they'd think about something and you'd have put it inside your mind like that no I hear it I hear it what makes you cry did they ever tell you not to tell anyone about them when I took my sister then we were there just a very short time and she started talking and talking and monopolized the whole conversation and it was almost like she'd known them a long time also except she hadn't that was her very first time I don't remember any other any other time meeting them but about three weeks after that my sister came up and said oh by the way I've been seeing your friends I said what you went without me and I was just thoroughly disgusted that she would actually take over my friends and go see them by herself and I just assumed that maybe it was that day or the day before but now it had been more than one time and she just had no need to tell me oh by the way Steve I saw your friends again I can't when I get to that part I just can't talk about it this is mine I don't want to be crying on there but I can't what they were there for was up in that basin where they would land a lot of times up in there me and the children have walked up there before and the only thing that I've ever seen up there missing is boat courts like taken out of the dry soil where there's been courts taken out there's no car you know car tracks up there anything so where did they go to the boat courts courts crystal courts rock and it's got like the red veins in it kind of reddish they call it rose courts we always call it boat courts because it's laying in an area where there's no other rocks it's like a big sand basin with the rocks drive into that area yes you could Dr. Garrell's built a house in that basin now and he works at the hospital in Anaconda you said that they landed in there all the time they did there for like about three years you want to tell them about that they were coming and going in and out of there for these crafts they changed models the first ones that came were red, blue, yellow red, blue, yellow all the way around then the newer model came red, blue, yellow, white red, blue, yellow, white because on the bottom of them they have a light that goes all the way around it the size of them you can't believe you think of a UFO being small but they're quite large I would say I would say at least 75 yards across at least oh god yes not that big maybe with rice did they have windows or did they spin or make noise nothing that I could hear nothing that I could hear but the dogs could hear something because they would cower my name is Richard Slater and I live in Missoula, Montana I grew up in the Deer Lodge Valley an incident happened to me in 1962 that I do remember was unlike this a friend and I had double dated and we were at a place called Quake Lake which was the result of a earthquake and all of a sudden the radio went off the music went off then all of a sudden the radio came back on as soon as the radio went off the thing that I remember most about it was that made it unique to me was the stillness of the vacuum of noise if you will that was around us listen it's not a sound anyway it was just still actually scared and we just sat there I want to go home and radio come back on and we laughed I sort out not only in terms of the questions but the possible answers for example many people wonder about implants the so called medical examinations that occur on board many people report not only encountering various ETs but also feeling that they are themselves on the table for examination one amazing story told by a man with Deer Lodge connections involved an eerie neon light grid that appeared in his bedroom late one night in the morning the man noticed a blood spot on his underwear doctor stated it came from a small needle size puncture wound in his scrotum there was no explanation for the cause of the wound Linda's adventures into the unknown apparently did not end with a visit to her brother's little gray friends Linda came to understand that she had made these visits on several different occasions my friend they approached me with some very unusual instruments that probed my eyes my nose my mouth and my ears they didn't hurt me but it scared me just because of the instruments please stop me don't poke me as I was laying on the table being probed by these instruments this other entity appeared she was different than the others and appeared to me to be a female and she also appeared to be somewhat superior in authority to the others I like you you're different you're a lady, aren't you? you're a lady, grasshopper you're not talking at five years old the entity that I encountered looked very much like a grasshopper and that's why I called her the grasshopper lady and I hadn't seen a praying mantis until I was approximately 20 years old because we just didn't have them in Montana so that was my only thought of what it could be okay, female child let's see, there's an entity large unusual people in a half this subject with small child is like a large praying mantis I'm just going to call this the praying mantis being okay, people in a half elongated head like a football with one and more narrow and slightly square body is very long and thin with unusual angles let's see, blend with subject blending with this subject it's very gentle nurturing caring and people in a half the girl likes this entity another experience left Linda with tangible and painful evidence when I was about 8 years old I remember going to school and my teacher asked me what the marks were on my arms and I don't remember why she just saw the ones on my arms but I said I didn't know and she sent me to the principal and to the nurse and then called my parents and my mother came to the school and she didn't know how they got in there and what they were were bright red raised weeping blister sword things but they were really raised and it was really interesting because they went just right around here they're about 4 inches long about 2 inches wide on the back of my arms all the way from my elbows to my wrists palms in my hands both hands but on both arms when these swords appeared they were extremely painful at the beginning and they would be like blisters and they would be big and then they would pop and then the fluid would run and I would have to wear things to keep this from running all over everything under hypnosis Linda told of metal devices being placed on her arms legs and face and this time there was no grasshopper lady to intervene I can't move what are you doing? I don't like you once again she found herself lying on a hard metallic table in a dark place surrounded by shadowy figures I can hear these seem different from the beings she had encountered before entities many small gray people are in a half small female childlike surrounded by non-humans short with protruding abdomens we've got a sketch a face hot arms burning weird P4.5 face and feel burned like exposure to radiation or extreme sun very fast burn the experience left her with long lasting and painful sores on her young body I think what's interesting about all of these sessions one thing that has come through for me in all of the sessions is the air, the climate is just very charged it's electrified it's palpable you can feel the air around you and doing a session where you pick up something that's glassy that has depth to it it just makes me think of a portal we may be in an area where it's a portal to another interdimensional space behind these hay bales is the town of Deer Lodge along this ridge right here is the area known as Red Gate up here on the mountainside the bear spot that looks like an upside down flying bird that's where the snowmobilers were and other instances occurred right over in here the point is it all happened right here my sister Linda has always been straightforward with her questions and with her answers and she's always curious she's been extremely curious about what's going on she's got a medical career being curious she's she's endeavored to seek answers for the questions that she's had and be it in the medical field or worse she's chased them down even to this day some of the people's families don't want them to talk about it because they're afraid of ridicule of the public or maybe their job, they have public jobs and they don't want people that they deal with to think that they're too edgy it seems like it's extremely unnatural to not want to tell everybody you meet that you have little brave friends that you talk to and the more I think about some of the other things that have happened later in life there's a very strong possibility that this was a suggestion of theirs that I had no need to talk about well the UFOs I believe that non-human life extraterrestrials have been here all along and personally I don't make a big deal out of it don't understand a lot of the secrecy behind it but for me I think they're part of our daily lives on many areas some are physical some are in different dimensions some are good, some are not so good a lot of them are like people basically they're not better than us, they're simply different my thought about UFOs is that they're becoming more and more prevalent in our consciousness we are hearing more stories about UFOs and it's through remote viewing that we are able to actually perceive and better explain the UFO phenomenon I think we are in a time where our consciousness is expanding and it's expanding so that we are able to see other things outside of time and space we're opening up our consciousness inter-dimensionally and we can do this with remote viewing my personal opinion of UFOs and subjects who claim to have seen UFOs is that I'm certainly open to the possibility that these are real phenomenon proving this as a scientist is difficult but so many honest and honorable and decent normal human beings have claimed these phenomenon these same people could put you in jail or be on a jury and give you a life sentence and we would believe them in these circumstances I believe these people have had UFO experiences or certainly they believe they have had UFO experiences with as big as the universe is there's no reason to think there isn't other life forms in the universe the redgate project is impressive for a variety of reasons the researchers are good people who have used professional approaches in their investigative interviews remote viewing hypnosis sessions polygraph sessions and they are combining their efforts with good people from a community that seems to be supportive of letting this information come into public view good people who are courageous and who are showing the world that their experiences are important to them and in my opinion important to the rest of us is a significant part of this project I think the message is to not continue to search in our past but to grow and get beyond what's happened and to understand that it's just a part of our life and that we just need to learn from it and move on and explore what's ahead after all her searching Linda Kruemp is finally accepted the reality of her experiences and has been reconciled with her childhood memories so there you have it the secret of redgate is that so many people in one small American community now know that there is so much more to the universe than what we see and experience in our everyday lives