 All right, thanks everybody So as I you know thought about giving a five-minute presentation I couldn't come up with really one thing to really talk about so I decided to do five So we'll go through this as kind of quickly as we can but I really wanted to talk about You know a lot of the lessons that we've learned working with all of the different clients We have across North America across really across the world and one of the challenges that you know We see when people really dive into Things like backstage is if you're really not careful you can actually make your developer experience a lot worse if you You know if you're not thinking about design if you're not thinking about the experience if you're not thinking about the challenges that Your development computing really has You know standing up another portal or you know another tool or another thing that's out there that people can't know can't trust And don't really have that set of visibility You know you can really make their life much worse than it was in the past The second one is backstage is not a magical tool. It will not all of a sudden Resolve all of your organizational challenges your bad processes It's not gonna automatically spit out some domains or systems or lineage or any of the other things that are out there and it really takes an organizational journey of The development community the leadership community and setting and aligning goals that everybody can really drive towards to be successful We've run into many people that you know they get six months down the road of Trying to set up a developer tool or you know doing things from a developer experience perspective And they're just not getting results and a lot of that has to do with They're really not thinking about things from a really organic point of view and figuring out how to build up All of the things that are necessary to really make an impact to your overall developer experience The you know another problem that we also run into is that? You know kind of leadership in the development community have very different sets of goals and While you know if you you need kind of a top-down approach you need to have You know leadership be very engaged with being able to Drive good developer experience, but you also need to understand. What are the actual problems? That your development community is having and how do you meet those two in the middle and set up a structure that? You know it helps drive both of those Problems and can give and you know really results in the end and it should be you know Metrics driven as all of us probably are very well aware at this point But figuring out how do you actually measure all these things and a lot of that can be done through having strong product management? you know their You know product management is a little bit of a touchy topic in some some circles But being able to have someone that owns and is driving your developer experience across the board is going to really help drive success overall and And the last one is really you know platform engineering is a huge It should be a big push in many organizations And backstage is a really great partner to that you know as you build out your Your self-service, you know all of your different you know platform and Tools and services backstage is a really great platform that can sit on top of that Give you insights into what's actually happening, but also provide that critical feedback loop One of the big challenges that you see is that you're you know setting up DevSecOps tools all of those pieces How do you actually give a lot of that information back to a developer in an easy way? You know a lot of times you'll see some you know reports that get written out to a certain drive or You know a dashboard buried three levels deep in some kind of reporting tool But backstage provides information in context Across all of these different tools, which is one of the things that I really love about it as you look through your You know your catalogue or your domains or all of the different ways that you can build experiences you give people an Easy way to be able to view all of that without having to think about it all that much and as you can think about lowering You know the cognitive load that it takes to be able to solve problems in your organization The better off you're gonna be and then the last one is if you're if you're struggling with adoption And I know a lot of people are you really need to rethink your overall strategy and You know being able you survey your people ask them what their problems are I have not run into a single organization where most of the developers didn't know where the problems it is just nobody asks and You know thinking about standing up at DevPortal is great backstage is great But really getting to understand your community what they What their problems are where they need to go that the things that are really, you know Grinding everything to a halt on their day-to-day basis Just ask them they'll tell you and there's a bunch of great plugins and and other things that you can build into Into backstage to gather this information, but you know that's really the great way to To kind of go about it talk to your people Survey them and actually give them the you know There is a light at the end of the tunnel and the light at the end of that tunnel is not necessarily a train and you'll get people to Stick around and be able to build that sense of community and drive your whole organization forward and Really improve developer experience across the board five minutes and 45 seconds. I Can't believe it so on time Yeah, we can probably take like two questions If you're up for it. Yeah, absolutely We have any questions I try to be very quick I like the slide with the backstage must align with leadership and developer goals because I had the same customers come we present backstage They love it and I said to them Hey, this is not just a tool where you interact for scaffold or whatever think about it's a strategic decision You need to have also as you mentioned a slide the backup from above to succeed So I highly Can confirm what you said I tried this also so people don't think it's a silver bullet you install and then hey Why it doesn't work or why it doesn't have the measures I thought of yeah I absolutely agree. We as technologists tend to think about things from standing up technology and You know, yes, we can stand up backstage. We can make it super resilient We can do all of these things and yet nobody wants to use it and because it's not a technology problem It's a people problem. It's a process problem. It's a mindset problem. And as you you know, really think about improving Developer experience and really operational efficiencies engineering effectiveness all of those different pieces It really takes everyone to be able to drive that and it is almost nothing to do with the technology underneath I heard a question Here This side. There we are. Yes. Yeah, you mentioned about information in context. Can you give a little more details about it? Yeah, so if you think about You know, you have the technology side of backstage your components resources API's those kinds of things You also have your domains and systems and all of the pieces on kind of the organizational side as you think about your Experience and setting up, you know, okay well as a as a backstage user these are the types of problems that I need to solve and Thinking about your experience design of how to get them If you do it correctly, it's like, okay. Well, I have an outage Well, I can have an experience that leads me to that that's going to give me information That's in context to the thing that I have so if I end up inside of a of a component I see all of the things across my plugins for that individual component. I'm not having to go into Any dashboard program? I'm not gonna throw in another bus But then you have to filter things down You have to do sometimes you have to do a lot of work to get to what information you actually need and this makes it So much easier because it's inside of the experience even though it's pulling information from many places across the organization Awesome, thank you so much over here. You had his hand up at first, but I know you don't have a mic, but if you want to There are a lot of there are a lot of good survey tools We do have a partnership with DX. So like Then there's the Spotify plug-in stuff We've done a lot of work with a lot of different folks. We've done everything down to just using Google Forms. I You know, I have personal preferences on what I like over what I don't like but in the end Get information in any way possible listen Understand what the problems are and then figure out how to react figure out how to measure it and and show the results And that's how you build that organizational momentum to be able to drive change not necessarily now But well into the future Awesome. Thanks. I appreciate it. Thanks again You