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Yeah, you know, and I'm glad you said that progress because my wife has the has the the live playing in in the other room and It's showing that it's probably airing all on tomorrow at midnight. I mean at yeah at midnight So I don't know what's going on with this stuff y'all. I mean again, this is the stuff that we're dealing with This is why it has to be a grass roots level For the notifications Whether you have a hopefully you have a channel or page you can do that by you know sharing it once it gets out I'm always trying to text and put it in my chats and and on my Facebook page as well And through text messages and and also on Twitter as well because again, you see what these With these YouTube streets are about and so you have to contend with that at least I do I gotta contend with the haters I gotta contend with YouTube guy contend with you know, all of that stuff But we're gonna continue to keep pressing. We would not be discouraged. We would not be deterred by God's grace I Testimism testimonies, what's going on brother good to see you as well brother Dan Nebulo, how are you doing? Welcome Enrico. What's going on my brother? Good to see you as well Brother Freddy brother X. What's going on y'all just want to acknowledge everybody sister Sean if I didn't if I didn't say your name as well I just want to acknowledge you're one in the house and thank you again those who are watching and will be watching this live On replay. Thank you so much. If you saw the opening clip introductory clip Did you get the gist of what I was trying to communicate in that? Do you see the message that I was trying to convey in the? In that clip if you if you see the message that I was trying to convey Share with me and what you are and what you think I was I was trying to communicate there Got another got another down again another thumbs down. That's that's five Five thumbs down. I'll take a wild guess who you think that is the mob or MacArthurites Probably a little bit of both right both one in the same. So you should how you doing sister? Good to see you Brother detox. What's going on? Yeah, that's exactly what they're doing, but they're not they're not they're not hiding it They're not trying to be They're not trying to be discreet about it at all And this is why I said, you know, we're gonna have to We're gonna have to support each other. That's why we talk about body life, you know As much as we as much as we can we need each other and of course, you know, we do this for the body Thank you sister Loretta. Thank you All right, so So like I was saying did you did you all get the gist of the of the clip that I was trying to Trying to convey Do it does anybody get to get the point of what I was trying to convey in the in the clip that our boys boys in the hood clip Anybody did anybody get it? That's right. So it's the shielder. He definitely has his final say He definitely has a final say Learn to fight close close close close Close who else who else has who else can can get what I was trying to get from the Let's see David says yep got it brilliant example of standing up for righteousness and getting slapped for Almost man almost almost almost I like that though. I like that. That's a good perspective. I like that. I like that There you go detox there it is right there Favoritism, let me get let me give you let me give you to hit them with the horns Here we go y'all you my brother with the horn That's it, that's it favoritism favoritism Low hanging fruit low hanging fruit Seems to get the the most abuse Then the one that's on the same tree And so again as you see on the thumbnail you have one one piece of fruit that is Hanging much much lower than the other and then you also you notice The other piece of fruit is high and lifted up and it's also it also has the sun or the glow or the glory shining around it Yeah, and that's what we do in Christendom unfortunately we have we have our favorites we have people who Lift up others more than the and then the other when we all should be on the same level playing field But unfortunately, that's not in the kingdom and and to be honest with you I'm going to give our non Reformed and non Sensationists brethren a break But you all can listen in and watch Because this is about our reformed and Sensationist brethren Because we don't think that idolatry applies to to our group We only believe and assume that idolatry, you know the the big sins It applies to those other groups that the tongue-talking the running around in a church that the chandelier swinging the the dog barking the Demon slaying Demon slaying double rebuking Holy ghost laughing I've seen Jesus in my chili vision All of that we we we believe that that those kinds of sins apply to those kinds of people Yeah, the gold dust people, yeah The tithe yeah the tithe collecting and there's some people in reform groups that that support tithing too But I get the gist to get your point the Women pastoring in the church Co-pastoring with the husband, you know, we you know that yeah We we you know the the the gay organist twan By the name of twan and the pull in the behind the organ. Yeah, all of that We think those sins apply to those kinds of people Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope not this life not this broadcast this one is going to be just for for you the the 1689ers the Westminster confessioners Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm. Yep The sinners in the hands of an angry Goddard's The Calvin's instituters Yeah, yeah The Martin Lloyd-Jonesers Dispargioners Mm-hmm and Definitely the McCarthy's This is this is for you. This is for you So as we always try to do here is we try to make sure that we lay out a foundation Because again, I know when when most of us read scripture, we don't we don't believe Talk about us reform people don't believe that a lot of these texts apply to us We believe it applies to the other people the other guys the other church other than the nomination across the other side of the aisle Yeah, but these verses are gonna be applying to us today problems shot the four verse 23 the the word of God reads Watch your heart watch over your heart with all diligence Why Solomon? for out of it Flow the springs of life Of course the beloved Apostle John writes to the little ones the children the Elder Apostle the aged Apostle John says Little children. He's talking to us guard yourselves from idols Yes, guard yourselves from idols. What's up Jay Marquis? That's my son y'all show my son Jay Marquis some love That's my that's my young boy right there. It's my younger It's my baby boy right there. Love him. What's going on boy? Yeah, guard yourself in the words of the hip-hop theologian that's effects. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself Bum steady the bum sticky the bum bum. You're not that one. Yeah that yeah That's the fact Yeah, I went back I went back Yeah, so this text applies to To all of us but in particular it applies to To us You know because we're quick. We're so quick and notice I'm I'm talking. I'm talking about I'm talking about us tonight. I'm adding us including us me and This equation Because it's easy again to talk about the TD Jakes. It's easy to talk about the Mike Taz It's easy to talk about the Joyce Meyer. It's easy to talk about the Creflo's It's easy to talk about the Copeland's. It's easy. It is easy To talk about the Rod Parsley's the two door Bismarck's It is so so easy Because they're the low-hanging fruit. They're the ones that we see right there. They're the ones that are so easy to spot Yeah, yeah, monkey moves there. They're the easy targets. They're the ones that's easy to acquire in the silhouette Matter of fact We go looking for the for the low-hanging fruit. We we go looking for the easy targets Because after all after all Parish the thought God forbid if idolatry of any kind is within reformed Calvinist non charismatic non-tummin talking camps God forbid not those of us who are known for our exegetical prowess Not not not among those of us who know how to parse verb tenses and know all the languages Hebrew the Greek the Aramaic We can we can break it down to the very last compound. Yeah surely not us Brother Seiko shooting at us passive Mm-hmm But I'm here to tell you Very much. So it is us very much. So it is us So I would like to ask you a question. I Would like to ask a question if you don't mind Here's my question We're gonna do the low-hanging fruit To be fair, you're gonna deal with the low-hanging fruit for a moment When when you think of Mike Todd and I'm gonna populate your comment Facebook family You too family those who are watching even the haters that are giving me the thumbs down You can you can you can join in on this conversation too? This would be right up your alley because I'm not talking about your idol yet, but It's coming Here's my question When you think of Mike Todd or any heritage but particular or particularly Mike Todd the one who spat in his hand Hocked up loogies and mucus and then rubbed it in his hand and smeared it in his brother's face. I think it was his brother nonetheless, whoever it was and he used that as a Sermon example on what Jesus did to the blind man for the record. I Didn't want to play that clip. I didn't even I didn't even upload it cuz that's how nasty and how foul it was And this was the first time today that I actually saw it And I wish the God that I didn't but Suffice it to say When when when you think of Mike Todd when that name comes to mind What do you think of put put the comment put your description whether it's an agile, but keep it holy What do you think of? What do you think of when you think of Mike Todd, what is your what is your What is your thoughts VBL says joke, okay? Freddy said I wish a knuckle would spit CG says the unqualified preacher, okay Paul Cajana said I think his punishment would be heavy Christina said lost a says good to see you inside the line says false teacher an idiot Shonda says deceive detox says unqualified Deem Q says wild crazy Jo line. She says Mike Todd equals Scott says he feminine Loretta says trying to be relevant monkey moves says heretic who else did I miss and maybe make sure I got most of your comments that I My wife says, please like this video. Yeah, please do that wipe your feet when y'all come on in here and like the video Sheila says she can't unsee it All right Sheila also says heathen I Don't know why it sounded like honest and when I heard that Proverbs says counterfeit Pastor God above all says heresy Asi says he feminine Tony says they would have to call the police from 29 counties to pull me off of him doing some mess like And oh boy stood there that's the thing oh boy stood there David says unqualified but but position to make a real difference if he turns to Christ It appealed he appeals to the young and unlearned People pleaser redeemed said was up brother. What's going on, bro? Bobby Dean says Mike Todd is a fool God above all says false teacher You say you was thinking about that too, huh see Christina says my husband says alphabet David says false teacher all about the money the bag the coins So we get the gist. Okay, no problem. All right, so And that's a fair assessment that it's a fair Assessment, okay So again, that's the low hanging fruit, right? That's that will be considered the low hanging fruit. All right, and if that's the low hanging fruit if That's if that's the low hanging fruit then I Want us to make sure that we maintain We maintain after I put it this way When I present what I need to present Remind me, okay, I want you all to remind me moderators remind me dear Remind me son if you're still here at the end of this live remind me remind me to ask that same question when it comes to the forbidden fruit Who is the forbidden fruit you may ask I Think we all know who the forbidden fruit is None other than the evangelical Pope himself John F Fresca MacArthur Is in regard to the about a half of the tribulation period when when men were be required to Have the mark of the beast in order to buy our cell my question is once the person takes the mark Is there any possibility of him coming to Christ? Yes, I Think you know in the seven-year tribulation coming in the future. We're going to get into this a probably a week from Sunday night Maybe this Sunday night maybe a week. I'm not sure but The tribulation is a seven-year period right there after the church seven-year tribulation then Christ returns sets up his kingdom now in that Seven-year period really two things happen. God begins to judge the world With a series of holocausts and at the same time he begins to redeem his people Israel and in the process of this The antichrist establishes his rule and in order to function in the economy of the antichrist You have to take the mark of the beast now the question is if you're living in the tribulation period and You take this mark in other words you identify with the beast's empire Will you still be able to be redeemed and I think the answer to that is yes Yes, otherwise there would be no salvation of anybody in the end of the tribulation So I don't think the fact that someone takes that is a sentence to it to permanency Any more than you being a part of this world system once in your life means you have to be a part of the system all your life Now remember now I want you to keep that same energy. I Want you all to keep that same energy energy Keep the same energy now, okay Now I'm not going to elucidate MacArthur's point because I've already addressed that before I've already addressed that before You can go to my YouTube channel after this live and you can pull up my response to Colin Miller C.O.L.I.N. Miller. He was defending in 2023 I believe it was 2023 Then he did that video and if not maybe you're you're earlier than that He defended and not only did Colin Miller defend MacArthur's position that was that was made and I believe in in the 80s whatever but nonetheless MacArthur is a very astute and erudite man MacArthur is no dummy MacArthur went to Talbot theological seminary MacArthur went to Bob Jones Seminar which was a racist seminary didn't welcome black people, but that's another topic for another time Maybe I'll talk about that when I deal with his that his affinity and love for Ariel Dabney who was another About racist and hated black people, but nonetheless nonetheless The Bible says to whom much is given much is required. Is it possible for a person like? John MacArthur to make a statement like that knowing what the Bible says. I mean He wasn't a neophyte when he made that statement. But in fact, he became pastor in 1969 at Grace Community Church He studied theology he studied eschatology, so I wonder why he made that statement and said that It would be impossible for anyone If if if if if if they couldn't go to heaven for taking the market and how would anybody be saved And I mean because I have his commentary right here I know those of you thought I may have thrown it away. No, I didn't I keep it stuff for records now and The MacArthur and 2000 because this one this was this one This was when this one was written now, of course, we know he didn't write these commentaries. Although his name is on the On the book You don't believe you can listen to dr. Dennis Swanson's Testimony who was there for 25 years and and new faculty and staff who basically wrote Majority of the stuff that MacArthur has now put his name to but anyway, that's another topic for another time We can talk about plagiarism later but this MacArthur that you heard on this Q&A is not the MacArthur that says it here and This Latest commentary and I also have it on my on my Logos Bible software So here is my question ladies and gentlemen Why would people like Phil Johnson and Colin Miller who basically has more subscribers and followers than I do Defend that which is indefensible Why not say? Yeah, he was definitely wrong and that matter of fact, he was heredically wrong and saying that then However, this is what he holds to now in his commentary. No, no, that's not what they did What they did was oh, he is right in that and people who are saying that he's not they're trying to attack him Wait a minute, but he said it So if he said it but now he's saying something different because now what he says differently here is what I believe I agree with him here. I Agree with him in this in this. This is the latest. This is his latest statement right here Okay, so this is his latest statement. This is what I'm going on because this is the accurate account, but What I found was people were defending MacArthur even though he was wrong and what he said in the Q&A and my question is What if Mike Ty would have done that what if Mike Ty would have done that what if Mike Ty would have said that now to be fair I never heard MacArthur publicly retract what he said all we have is what he now Hosed to in writing, but he never ever ever said I was wrong in that I don't recall MacArthur ever admitting that he's wrong in anything. That's just to my knowledge And I know other people and faculty and staff that that have been Close associates and in relationship with MacArthur. They've said this man never admitted he's wrong Which explains why he would never admit that he's wrong about Eileen Gray and others that he is abused and mistreated But again, let me stay on point because I'm just asking a simple question What if the low what if what if the low hanging fruit would have one of your low hanging fruit Would have said that what would you have done just asking? What if what if Mike Todd has said what MacArthur said? Hmm. I'm asking for consistency ladies and gentlemen. We have to be people of the truth What if Mike Todd would have said that What would we have done to Mike Todd? What if TD Jakes would have said what if Beth Moore would have said that You know the one that MacArthur said go home Yeah, Kater would be doing a 24-hour marathon marathon live if Mike Todd had said that he sure would have So I just I just have some questions. I just have questions Because I've already responded to that statement that MacArthur made and that's what said you can go to my go to my channel After this is over you can hear my response to Colin Miller who who refuses to respond to me What you what you do I don't understand why people don't respond to what to what I say when I respond to what they say I'm just but anyway Anyway So you believe Stevie he would have been ripped apart Like paper, huh? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you liberating troops. I forgot about that heretic What if Marcus Rogers would have said that again? I'm just asking about the low hanging fruit. Okay, just just Looking for consistency that's all that's all well What about this one in light of some recent issues Christians are asking Should I render services in my business for for homosexuals? That question needs to be answered carefully if you have a gas station I don't think you mind if a homosexual pumps gas if you have a grocery store I don't think you mind if the homosexual comes and chops there. I don't think we're called to sort out the world Uh that way no matter what you do in business You're probably in the economy of the world in the way things are conducted in the world interacting with all kinds of sinful people All over the place if you invest your money if you put your money in a bank It's pulled together with people whose lives you wouldn't support but here's the difference When it comes to providing a service which is part of the celebration of that sin I think that's where you draw the line That that word celebration may help you You you could say I don't mind um, I don't mind selling cakes to people who walk in off the street But when you ask me to bake a cake Specifically to celebrate a homosexual marriage Now you've pushed me into contributing to the celebration You've pushed me into affirming an event that I cannot affirm. I think that's where you have to draw the line Is it truly sinful for a christian business person? For instance a cake maker to produce a product for a gay wedding You're on a roll. No, it's not sinful for a cake maker to Make a cake for a gay wedding any more than it's sinful for a Guy who runs a restaurant to serve dinner to somebody who's gay and sits in a booth and eats the food or Goes to the market and buys a loaf of bread and you own the market What What the issue is is is not whether that's Sinful it's whether The federal government Can demand that people do certain things Which goes against their christian conscience Um, the issue is to me is more of a political governmental issue Um, I I actually think That we need to show love to everyone Um And particularly we need to do good to all those that are outside the kingdom as well as inside the kingdom as much as possible So a gesture of kindness toward Some unregenerate person is in itself not a sin But again, if it violates your conscience in some way, then you don't want to train your conscience You don't want to train yourself to ignore your conscience. So I think it's a personal issue Um the the issue becomes when people are basically find or imprisoned for doing things that are Religious conscience matters and that speaks to the issue of Um, how much authority the government has to make you do that So There's a difference. What do you say? All I'm doing is playing every seats That's That's it. I'm just trying to see what's the difference between the macArthur that we Heard in 2014 to the macArthur that you heard in 2017 um Here's my here's my question Remember when kate up gave mike tide the business about saying, you know trans, you know, the the name of the church is trans. It trans we we want you here, right? I mean So I'm just asking What's the difference from what mike tide said from what john macArthur said about about making Decorating a wedding cake for the celebration of a gay wedding Because at least mike tide said in that video that we that we saw yesterday and that you heard um, kate up mentioned or He didn't he didn't add that part At least the one he sent to jason witlock. He didn't he didn't send him before when he sent him the one that he Got all those thousands and thousands of views on so that one he didn't he didn't send where it said Well, I marry you and Mike tide says I can't I can't Because he has to come under the kingdom now again I'm just I'm just saying If you're giving mike tide the business if you're giving mike tide the work Why not give the elder statesman some work and love, of course does age exempt us from Speaking against that which is sin heresy error Wrong I'm just asking me because if it is I didn't I didn't see that in the scriptures. I mean I read the bible I but I don't want to recall any of the 66 books That there's an exemption. There's there's a there's a there's a ceiling. There's a line Of demarcation that we can't cross over because of the person's age or or because of how long the person has been in ministry Or or how many books that they may have written or whatever Or or or because of how faithful They are I I I've never seen it. Have you Have you I haven't If you have I would love to see the the text Maybe it's in the 67th Book of the bible because all I got is 66 Just wondering And I'm just I'm just asking is it safe to say Is it safe to say I'm asking now looking for anybody to gas me up Nothing like that. Is it safe to say that so far? So far that my That the thumbnail that I presented is a is a pretty accurate description of What we see Is that is that a Is that a pretty accurate description of what we see? um because if so then We're in trouble We we have we have some serious issues within Not now within the charismatic church because see again, that's that's the low-hanging fruit. I'm talking about Among us Among us reform quote-unquote cavernous quote-unquote Sensationist quote-unquote Him singing and only Him singing unless it's ol lang syne with the you know All glory to christ added to a light diddy Just just just asking So maybe maybe maybe there is a difference. So so again If we're going to give mike tide the work in the business Why are we why are we side stepping in and pump faking when it comes to evangelical pope himself? just asking Sure is quiet I mean, I'm just getting warmed up Because I haven't even given y'all The haymaker yet I haven't I'm just letting y'all know I haven't Just just just give me a little bit of review in case some people forgotten You know because I I have I had like two columns I had like two columns and I Lined out the things that macarthur has said and done And this is not even all of it's not even exhaustive to be honest with you Just the ones I can recall the ones I remember and some things I have you know What brought to my attention from others that I had to fact check and into source and in those two columns With mike Todd And john macarthur take a wild guess Who's list of offenses and heretical statements and erroneous claims Out did the other just asking you And if you say well Of course macarthur is because he's been around longer than my time. That's not always the case That doesn't mean anything You can have people that they may have just started being in ministry and they can they can I'll do someone who has been in ministry for decades and and and say heretical and erroneous things So it's not the tenure of the person's life That makes the person a heretic is what they say throughout the tenure of their life And whether they repented of those things and the severity of these sin Because there is a difference of being an error and there's a difference of speaking heresy And if you say that macarthur has never made a heretical statement Then you definitely are lying and you need to repent But I'll just ask you If you don't think any of those things that I mentioned to you are an issue. No problem. Not a problem I'm just trying to compare and contrast and see, you know Maybe maybe I needed to change the the the length on the fruit tree Instead of having mike tide brought down low. Maybe I should have brought Macarthur low and had mike tide high. I don't know but you tell me This is why it's so interesting because when I when I read the new testament myself and I Obviously, I'm not a believer in the divinity of jesus Obviously not a believer in the divinity of jesus when you asked me to show the the variation Between judaism and christian morally. No, there's none and in terms of god The same we don't have the same god as muslims. Allah is not the same god as jahovah We don't have the same gods as any other false religion But we have the same god as jews and christians. We have the same god as jews and christians So again I don't I don't follow mike tide I've never I've never supported mike tides ministry. Never So I don't know if mike tide have made statements like this. It's possible. He could have He could have He could have But macArthur's influence and scope I believe transcends mike tides Does everyone know the difference between an orthodox? And a messianic jew Does everyone know the difference between the two? Do we know the difference between a messianic? And an orthodox jew I hope we do but just in case you don't macArthur said it in his conversation with with ben chapiro. He says what are you going to do with jesus? because he's god but if Ben just said in front of macArthur's face that he does not believe In the divinity of jesus then how sir how Pastor john can you say that jews like ben chapiro Who have gone on record? And this is not the first time that ben chapiro has denied the deity of christ that does not believe in the trinity Of the godhead he has made it publicly He's done it on this show here with john macArthur and he's also done it on other shows as well joe rogan Comes to mind I mean he kind of like made a mocking statement regarding jesus when he was talking to joe rogan so my question is if we that is christians worship the same god As ben chapiro then all of us are going to hell Because that ain't the true god I mean if i'm making this up then y'all tell me i'm just i'm just playing the receipts That's all I'm just i'm just playing the receipts I'm letting him Make his own statements With it by his own words Yeah, what's the difference between an orthodox and a messianic jew? What's the difference between an orthodox and a messianic jew? I hope that's what I meant to say earlier But yeah, what's the difference between an orthodox and a messianic jew? messianic jews Believe in the messiah they believe that christ came and they believe he's coming back again messianic jews. I mean orthodox jews deny The claims of who jesus said he was the writings of the old testament prophets And what the new testament writers say about jesus and his return They're still they're still looking for them. They're still looking for them orthodox jews are so Amen, dear correct messianic jews believe in christ orthodox Do not correct y'all are correct Or the doctor denied jesus in so many ways. Absolutely. Absolutely. So again, how How do we worship the same god as jews like ben Shapiro? And here's another question Why did they get a pass? Why did they get a pass? Can I ask another question? Can I ask another question? Although john mcgawthard did say We don't worship the same god as as muslims and and and Mormons and whoever else I think he said, but I know he did say Mormons, I think Joe witnesses, but He made that he made that clear My question is When joel oceane said that, you know that he knows some some hindu's that that love jesus Love jesus We raked Osteen over hot coals. We rotisserie Osteen We charged him with universalism I mean we we gave him When he said that man, listen Oh, right. He listen. He's still in the fire with us. He listen. He's still dipped in the fire We have never let him out Never let him out And so what i'm asking is is what's the difference with the exception of of mcgawthard saying You know We don't worship the same god as muslims and and and Mormons He's no that's what he said. He says he says we jews and christians and and and and And Ben Shapiro is a jew But he's a jew That denies The deity the work The essence of who christ is he does not believe that jesus christ is who he said he was And is He denies that so how Can mcgawther affirm A person who denies the very god that we That we serve Oh man I'm not trying to bro. I'm just listen I'm just I'm just dropping receipts bro Like this one It is a little strange that We have such an aversion to slavery Because historically there have been abuses Hey, hey, hey, can i ask you a question the do y'all have an aversion to slavery? Does anybody have an aversion To slavery Especially us especially us colored folk Us colors Us nagrous any of y'all have any aversions to slavery You know the whole chain thing and You know that kind of anybody having any, you know aversions to that, you know, you you you don't like it And i'm not talking about indenture slavery. We know that there's a difference We know We know indenture slavery was was was voluntary But chattel slavery I don't know passage on it is a little strange that We have such an aversion to slavery Because historically there have been abuses You know there have been abuses in marriage. We don't have an aversion to marriage particularly because there have been abuses There there are parents who abuse their children We don't have an aversion to having children because some parents have been abusive Of course it can have any kind of situation where abuse can can be involved The reason unions grew up in america was not To free slaves the reason unions grew up in america was because there were people who had businesses and they were Abusing their employees So to throw out slavery as a concept Simply because there have been abuses i think is to miss the point In any kind of human relationship there can be abuses there can also be Benefits for many people Poor people perhaps people who weren't educated perhaps people who had no other opportunity Working for a gentle Caring loving master was the best of all possible worlds if you had the right master Everything was taken care of so we have to go back and take a more honest look at slavery and understand that God has in a sense Legitimized it when it's handled correctly by saying this is the way you're to view your relationship to jesus christ The perfect all wise all loving all compassionate all beneficent Lord and you willing to be his slave because of such unique Care provided by him if you ask me to be a slave I will simply ask you one question. Who is my master? If you tell me that my master loves me with a perfect Love from which i can never be separated If you tell me that my master will pour out all his riches on my behalf and hold nothing back If you tell me that my master knows me and knows what is best for me and in every case will provide everything that is best for me If you tell me that my master will use me in the advancement of his own enterprises And that i will share in his reward if you tell me that my master will make me as a son And give me all that he possesses as an heir of his own true son If you tell me that my master will forgive all my sins and reward me forever I can't sign up fast enough to be a slave of that master And that is the issue Slavery is not objectionable if you have the right master. It's the perfect scenario Everything you need is met And more in a caring loving Environment where god provides all that we need through christ. That's what it means to be a christian Well, i mean listen At least we heard what he had to say about it. I mean We don't have to ask for him to explain it any more than what he did, right? Yeah, i know i know some of y'all didn't see this before that's why i played it again I said i said i know some of y'all have not seen this so let me make sure that You know as i'm going through these receipts I'm going to go through a little bit of review and then we're going to you know Go up a little bit because right now we're still taxing Right now we're still taxing I was waiting for it Seiko the white delegates would like to trade j-max for a bowl of greens and hot sauce Oh Wasn't it wasn't it hard this was this was a tough one wasn't it wasn't it tough He said it was the it's the perfect scenario Here we go. Yo, here we go. Yo, so what so what's what's the scenario? Yeah, maybe he maybe maybe maybe maybe john maybe john mcgothi got a little bit of tribe in him y'all I don't know I don't know y'all He may have a little bit of tribe in in him a little bit, you know a little bit of fife A little little buster I don't know Just saying um What was he thinking hey What does the bible say out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks right But also, you know, what else the bible says? No student is above his teacher But when fully trained Will be like his teacher and phil johnson is definitely A student of the teacher one of my favorite theologians in america is rl dabney He was a presbyterian theologian And I firmly believe that he would be remembered as america's greatest theologian ever Except that he got embroiled in the civil war. He was a southern presbyterian during the time of the civil war He was the the chaplain to stonewall jackson. So he was Actually in the military and fought For the south in the war And when the south lost he became embittered and never really got over it and some of his later writings also are racist, you know just racist And so much so that when the banner of truth published His collected writings on essays and stuff like that. It's called discussions It's actually my favorite set of books of all the books on my shelf That's the one I would least like to to lose because there's some just brilliant material in there But when banner of it was originally four volumes and when banner of truth picked it up and published it They made it three volumes because they took out there was so much racist material at the end that they had to take out So they deleted half of volume three and most of volume four and put it in three volumes And I look at dabney and I think what a shame what a shame I mean, he was a product of his times And what a shame that he couldn't rise above that and see beyond that because he understood doctrine and loved the scriptures and loved christ and I'm sure His level of spiritual maturity was far beyond mine. So Uh, I feel bad even criticizing him But you have to step back and look at that and say He like like all those reformers was a flawed man and sometimes our flaws outlive And sometimes even overshadow our good qualities Student is above his teacher But When fully trained Will be like him. I mean, there's a lot of nuggets in that in that racial statement that Phil Johnson made Are we all a product of our time? Can I can I make sure that we are we're understanding what mr. Johnson said? um Because if we're not then maybe we need that we need to find out what time time zone we're we're we're in uh Because all of us are products of our time, right? I'm I'm willing to To bet money if I were betting man This individual right here most black people would even read Nathan Bedford forest Nathan Bedford forests redemption y'all y'all have seen me talk about this and I compared and contrasted Nathan Bedford forest who who who ended up Becoming a believer and you know what he was a slave trader He was a white supremacist Like Dabney was but god got a hold of this man Saved his soul Turned his heart of stone into a heart of flesh The very people that he considered to be less than human He loved He loved him some black people Yeah Nathan Bedford forest Great book. I mean I read this thing from cover to cover couldn't get enough of it. This man's testimony Is what it looks like when a person used to be something And now they're made new into something else By the grace spirit and power of god Remember if any man being christ he's a what? New creature Behold all things that pass away up and hold all things have become new All things have passed away Behold all things have become new Murderers are a product of their time Abortionists are a product of their time live steves adulterers back biters Slanderers. I mean we all are product of our time, right? That's what I thought so so I'm trying to understand So you can be a christian And still be a racist Is is that the conclusion that we that we're getting and if you think I'm making this up You don't have to take my word for it Phil johnson tried to double down on this and then tried to pivot and shift and change some things But he went right back stuck in the mud again He went on dear world christian, you know that sambo he went on his podcast Because you know they welcome no they welcomed him over there And they attempt to try to slander and blast me And he justified And tried to make excuses on why r.l. Dabney was a racist And did not denounce the fact That he said That a his favorite Not not one of my favorites the man said His favorite theologian is a racist. Do y'all hear me? I don't think y'all did I don't think we see the implications behind this now Mike tide had dawned on his person myosman row Who is a heritage? We'll say that Mike tide Took a picture with carlton piercing recently carlton piercing It's a heritage when mlk 50 Went down a few years ago white folk lost their mind Yeah, I said it Some of you white folk who are macarthites lost your mind You would have swore that somebody jacked you for your burial cream You would have swore That someone Told you that your membership Just for men had been revoked because Y'all did sermons about mlk 50 and Gave john piper the business for even attending mlk 50 to honor mlk And said how can any christian? Oh, I heard what y'all said now I heard you say it How can any christian? celebrate and attend a conference Of a known heretic who denied The essentials of the christian faith. You know what an essential also of the christian faith is matthew chapter 22 Versus 37 through 39 You should love the lord your god With all your heart with all your soul with all your mind And the second jesus said is like it It's like what like the first you should love your neighbor as your self On these two hang the law and the prophets How can I love god? John the apostle says and hate my brother Paul says love does not Do harm to a neighbor Yeah, roman's 13 Verse 10 give a take the bible says That love Does not seek its own it's not selfish It puts others before themselves so How does a person like r.i.f. Dabney our Dabney fair I'm just Just asking yeah, ain't that ain't that ironic? Phil johnson started the website the spurgeon archives, but he chose Dabney So what does that tell you about mr. Phil? Because church history records Spurgeon openly Detesting and abhorring the practice of chattel slavery in America so much so that the That the white racists in this country Told spurgeon if you come over here, you're a dead man But phil johnson phil johnson's favorite Theologian Is a racist But these same people These same white folk these same white reform folk these same white conservatives These same white fundamentalists these same white calvinists these same white shep con attending participants will tell you and I that mok is a racist that Jeremiah right is a racist and Lewis ferro con is a racist Okay, and that they're heretics And that they deny essential christian doctrine, but they will hold to the vest Their own beloved racists Oh, i'm just listen i'm just i'm just Dropping receipts that's that's all i'm doing i'm not making up anybody's words for themselves I am just letting The records play That's all That's all i'm doing you can't say that i'm twisting anybody's words nothing Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, scott let black christians exalt ferro con Forget listen forget ferro con gino jennings my goodness Just just james cone i'm saying But but we're talking about Mike Todd you got a man that graduated from a racist seminary That did not welcome black people. He graduated from bob johns university Or at least he attended it He's gone on record and told people like dr. Harley howard Who wanted to bring black people over to? Grace in the master seminary no no no no no don't bring them over here You you you stay with your people over there Your people he said you you you keep your people you stay with your you you deal with your people over there you Go over there with your people i'm just giving y'all The documented evidence and testimony of dr. Harley howard who attended the master seminary and who preached also with Dr. John colman Just saying I wonder have any of you heard these stories before If you haven't i'm not surprised why because High lofty hanging fruit Is up there for a reason So you can't reach it. So you can't touch it It does not necessarily mean that field johnson and j. Mac are racist really? So what does it mean back to 702 you and like me you you you help me you you help me now I'm i'm gonna i'm gonna ask you i'm gonna ask you then what does it mean? You tell me what does it mean back to 702 what does it mean? when a person Says that their favorite theologian hates black people tell me what it means Because I know what it means if when I hear people that say that Jeremiah Wright is their favorite pastor Knowing what Jeremiah Wright believes Or saying that Farrakhan is my favorite theologian I know what that person is saying and what that person thinks about white people Or if I would say that hillar was my favorite world leader What does that mean? To a Jew who hears me say that or or Margaret Sanger was a great woman And I was white and I said that Amongst black people and I knew the history of Margaret Sanger. Just asking you Just asking you Baptist 702 Your response sir Your response Your response Because again You said And I quote It does not necessarily mean that phil johnson and j mac are racists I want to know what it means then Because the burden of proof ain't on me to prove it. It's on them to prove it. It ain't the man said That one of his no, excuse me. He said one I thought I don't I don't want to miss quote what he said my goodness The man explicitly said this One of my favorite theologians in america is rl. Dabney. He was oppressed Is that what he said again? One of my favorite theologians in america is rl. Dabney. Yes, correction He said one of my favorite theologians So one of my favorite theologians Is rl. Dabney One of my favorite theologians Is rl. Dabney So he did put the one on there one of my favorites so my question about this 702 What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? It's grieving to hear that I just don't want to jump to such potentially divisive conclusion I don't want you to jump to anything. I want you to tell me what does it mean? What does it mean? if If i'm supposed to love my my neighbor as myself and and if if my brothers and sisters comprise of every tribe tongue people of the nation and then there's someone who hates the very person that i am in covenant relationship with Through the blood of christ and i know that this person hates My brother because of the color of their skin and then they write works That describe My fellow brother or sister as less than human as i am They question the immago day of me because of the color of my skin and you're telling me That there are no implications that You Could possibly be a racist if you are saying that this man is one of your favorite theologians Well, we have that same energy if it was anybody else is what i'm asking Leah asks you to question 702. What does their races look like to you? Phil Johnson loves Dabney. We examine Dabney on seco's channel. Look it up. We examine a very disturbing look Because i don't want to go into this anymore Yeah, if all the theologians if all the theologians and Phil picks a racist dude, you had one job The man the man that's a great point david He says one of my favorite theologian and you pick Dabney is as as the as the The focal point of who you consider to be one of your favorite theologians dabbney robert louis dabbney civil war hating black folk dabbney okay all right Okay Frank quiet says one of my favorite presidents is trump who is hostile to god. Okay Okay You should know what it means. You said it doesn't mean what you you said it doesn't mean What other what other things said you said you don't you don't think it means that So if you say they don't think it means that then what does it mean? I don't think I don't know what it means I would rather be as gracious as possible to people because conversations like this can cause serious brother brother And this is funny People like you want to give people the benefit of the doubt when they make statements that are clearly devices and racist That's that's that's why i'm saying this is low-hanging fruit If this was mike if this was mike Todd that had said that Oh, come on Come on y'all gave y'all gave Jeremiah right hail Come on now. Can we can we at least be honest? Can we at least be honest Exactly, Justin. How can you pick a racist who hates your brothers and sisters in christ? And you call him one of your favorite theologians and then even and listen listen listen You heard the recording the man said He wrote some volumes That was clearly racist Against black people this man has the temerity and the cashews to sit there and say this is one of my I would have kept my mouth shut I would have never said that I would have kept that crap to myself But out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks He can't If that's one of his favorite theologians He can't and and listen does anyone know who to be anyone know who to beady and your brulee is Anyone know who he is anybody he did a he did a book The the african um I used to say it by heart What does it call doing real time looking right now? I think it's probably one of my Let's see. He did one called the faithful preacher. It's another one. You know how you try to find something And you don't want to stop until you find it. That's how I'm feeling right now because I know I got it Yeah, the decline of african-american theology. That's it The decline of african-american theology by tebidi and your brulee The decline of african-american theology by tebidi and your brulee excellent book. Thank you knowing belief. Thank you, sir um but when but when Tebidi started slipping into the sjw stuff And started pushing the white guilt thing White people had a field day Let me let me give you another let me give you another one And y'all need to work y'all gonna have to help you remember this one. I'm trying to remember I could see his face um black brother wears glasses And he was the brother that said after trump had won That he does not feel comfortable worshiping among white people anymore Jamar tisby. That's him. Yeah jamar tisby Jamar tisby um You said it was the solution we can talk about the problem all day long jesus gave solutions. What's yours? My solution to you is just waiting to wait until I give it. How about that? That's my solution to you. Just wait. This is my this is my life. It's my show You on my you on my life That's the solution We're talking about the situation right now. I'll get a solution when i'm ready so we gave We gave to bd and you belay work We gave jamar tisby work and um And rightly so And rightly so All i'm asking is is this Why isn't when white folks say something some of y'all give them a pass But let a black person say it. Oh, yeah, i'm going there. Yeah, i'm going there. Yep. I'm going there how is it that Jamar tisby says i'm not comfortable worshiping with white folk with white people anymore because Trump won the election in 2016 but Phil johnson can say that a racist who hated black people was a product of his time was jamar tisby a product of his time in 2016 when he made that statement and white folk gave him the business No, it ain't unnecessary. It's unnecessary for y'all to be hypocritical. That's what's unnecessary about the 702 That's what's unnecessary That's what's unnecessary and i'm getting sick of it I'm getting sick of it I'm getting sick of the hypocrisy I'm getting sick of the excuse making when it's clear sin Yes The book the color of compromise was another good book I only had one umbridge and one issue That i took conception with with uh with jamar uh jamar tisby It's it's jamar not jamar when people get the right name jamar Liberating truths. Thank you brother for the for the super chat um this is thank you k.o He says are you new here? Please let the man cook the dinner You wouldn't want someone come in to your work and telling you how to tell you to hurry up facts Facts Thank you Yeah, dr. Brian dr. Brian It's it's listen Can nobody call me a race baiter? Can nobody call me a racist some have tried and it failed miserably and horribly But i'm gonna call balls balls and strike strikes over here i'ma call it straight up and down like six o'clock and if you don't like it there is the proverbial door Period that goes for anybody including you erin stanbury You don't like what i'm what i'm spitting over here go somewhere else Go somewhere else I didn't sin for you. I didn't subpoena you I'm asking questions I'm asking questions I see hypocrisy Is what I see You gave jamar you gave jamar tisby hell You get to be the annual relay hell You give anybody that's black hell when they say something but then white people say the same thing Remotely the same thing and then they get a pass No, not over here Not over here But maybe you can explain this one then Maybe maybe you can explain this one What about this one John McArthur on r.l. Dabney and no by the way, I didn't write this a white guy wrote this one All right, a white guy wrote this one Somebody somebody black must have wrote this somebody black must have been must been race hunting. Nope. Nope A white guy there is right there Daniel Clevin, he wrote it And there's some things I don't agree with him on but on this I agree quote Dabney is a very helpful writer Although he ain't black folk Quote one of the wonderful old past generation american preachers Was a man named rl. Dabney and reading him is always refreshing He's like a piratin out of his time and out of his place in quote John McArthur has quoted and recommended rl. Dabney regularly over the years Both in his preaching and at various conferences without ever mentioning Dabney's venomous white supremacy Again, I told y'all no students above his teacher But when fully trained Will be like him Just letting y'all see this The first reference to rl. Dabney and john mcgother's works is in the love of god 1977 mcgother calls Dabney one of the quote reform star warts and quote and sites from his essay god's indiscriminate proposals of mercy later in the book Quote these same truths have been vigorously defended by a host of reform star warts Including thomas boston john brown andrew fuller wgt shed rl. Dabney bb warfield john murray rb kuiper and many others in no sense does belief in divine sovereignty ruled out the love Of god for all humanity rl. Dabney Argued against an early form of the two nature view more than more than a century ago He noted the doctrine's antinomian tendencies. They just just quoting. He's quoting Dabney's writings, right? But never quotes any of his racist writings mcgother doesn't These are just the books that are Dabney is being quoted In mcgother's books all of those And his sermons same thing mcgother did not quote Dabney on preaching Did not just quote Dabney on preaching but on a number of other subjects as well even at conferences And books and messages spanning over four decades of ministry Mcgother and his colleagues at grace to you and at the master seminary have repeatedly quoted and recommended Dabney To both his own church And to the broader evangelical world through conferences after searching his site gty.org I have been unable to find a single Qualification or caveat let alone a warning or caution regarding Dabney's racism white supremacy and views on slavery What was what was his view on slavery? Glad you asked And Dabney's book defensive virginia and oh by the way John harris from conversations that matter supports r.r. Dabney makes excuses for people like r.r. Dabney Just saying Invited him and I to have a conversation so we can have a Live robust respectful conversation and I keep getting denied like bad credit Dabney writes, but I was about to say that in considering these supposed evils of slavery We must remember that the real evil is the presence of three millions of half civilized foreigners among us And of this gigantic evil domestic slavery is the potent and blessed cure This foreign and semi barbarous population was placed here by no agency of ours The cupid e of the forefathers of american and british abolitionists placed it here against our earnest remonstrances And left us to find the remedy for his presence It would have been a curse That would have paralyzed the industry corrupted the morals and crossed the development of any nation Thus to have an ignorant pagan lazy uncivilized people intermixed with us And spread around a spread abroad like the frogs of egypt The remedy is slavery And let us ask what is slavery done to rescue the south and the africans in these potential circumstances? it has civilized And christianized the africans And has made them in the view of all who are practically acquainted with their condition the most comfortable peasantry in the world It has produced a paucity of crimes riots and mobs And that far surpasses the land of steady habits that boasted north as it proved by the statistics of crime It has rendered political convulsions and our own borders impossible It has developed a magnificent agriculture Which in spite of the burden of unequal legislation has enabled the south to maintain a proportionate increase With this gigantic revival a reference to the statistics of the religious denominations of the country shows that slavery Has made about a half a million one in every six of these pagans savages a professor of christianity The whole number of converted pagans now church members connected with the mission churches of the protestant world Is supposed to be about 191 000 A goodly and encouraging number indeed But compare these converted pagans with the 500 000 converts from the pagan africans among us And we see that through the civilizing agency of domestic slavery The much slandered christianity of the south has done far more for the salvation of heathen men than all the religious enterprise of protestant christendom And this No doubt But the dawn of the brighter day Was the benevolent affection of the masters will lighten up will light up around the black population If they are not interfered with by the schemes of frantic fanaticism Y'all, all right Just reading receipts. That's all Just reading receipts Yeah, I know he did. Yes. Yes, he did. Yes, he did And it's a shame But we can't talk about MLK though Can't talk about Malcolm X though Mm-hmm. Can't talk about Nat Turner though. Nah Mm-hmm. Nope Now let's master say so right I mean something's asking You hear what y'all you hear but John McArthur says about Dabney you hear what field Johnson says about Dabney, right? We all remember the story. We all remember the the situation regarding Eileen Gray, right? We all remember this Some of you may not again I'm just asking if people like Mike Todd and in or your or your garden variety Heraldic would have committed any of these crimes or sins against a fellow image bearer We would have their head on a on a on a platter spiritually speaking John McArthur shamed excommunicated mother for refusing to take back child abuse. We all remember the story about this, right? I don't want to go to too much detail. You can look it up on Julie Roy's.com Eileen Gray This set the whole issue of abuse at Grace Community Church in motion And it's still happening And these people still have yet to repent and these people still don't want to deal with the issues that Elder Han Cho had brought to the forefront because they said It's nothing to talk about. We don't we don't need to deal with this We'll keep it in house Well, look like it's getting out the house and by the way David Gray Is still in prison serving 21 years to life. He had his parole hearing And they denied him promote parole for another 10 years. He would not be up for parole consideration for parole until 2032 and now and I'll read to you the reason why or reasons why This is the actual court document of the appellate court The people versus david grant gray Defended david grant gray appeals from the judgment following his conviction after a jury trial of four counts involving sm of his daughter And two counts involving physical abuse of another daughter Appellate contains on appeal that the trial court aired by failing to sever the trial on the physical abuse counts from the trial of the m charges and further aired by permitting the prosecution to introduce evidence of a prior uncharged s o and I have to use these words because you see you too can get triggered But you can read it He further contains that the trial court abuses discretion by restricting the scope of the defense's expert testimony Finally, he argues that his conviction for committing a forcible lewd act Must be reversed because it was a lesser included offense of his conviction for aggregate aggravated s a For the reasons stated below. We are not persuaded by any of the appellate's arguments And accordingly we affirm the judgment In an information filed by the district attorney of los angeles County appellate was charged. Here it is right here appellate was charged With 10 felony counts a last who have been committed against three Against his three minor children The information allows that appellate committed the following five offenses A last who have been committed between december 22nd 2000 and december 21st 2001 Against ng lewd act upon a child under 14 years of age counts one in three Forcible lewd act upon a child under 14 years of age count two Dissuading a witness by force or threat count seven And aggravated s a oral sea of a child Under 14 years of age by a person more than 10 years older And these are all the charges in the counts The information also allege that appellate committed the following three offenses against eg on or about may 10th 2001 Causing or permitting eg under circumstances likely to produce great bodily harm and death to suffer and be inflicted with unjustifiable physical pain and mental suffering Willfully and unlawfully inflicting cruel and inhuman Corporal punishment and injury resulting in a traumatic condition upon a child And dissuading a witness by force or threat Just just asking, you know how And and and when I say these details are graphic And i'm not even going to go into it because i've gone into it before you just have to go to the To the channel and and watch And watch the video so i'm not going to go into it right now. I've gone through it enough i've gone through it enough And all I can tell you is sickening That's all I can tell you But this is the man This is the man The john mcgother His church and his ministry supported Until they were caught They may be still doing it under the law But they were caught financially supporting this man's quote-unquote prison ministry Even after the fact that they put eileen gray out With no money no support Nothing But they still supported this man. I'm sure you know by now That one of our own david gray has been arrested hardy stated in the letter carry hardy as the individual The accusation being been brought against him have to do with ca Most likely these accusations come from his estranged wife eileen. You see how they're twisting and and just distorting her name and character As documented in the roger port's previous report eileen stated in sworn court testimony that david gray confessed to repeatedly kicked He repeatedly kicked and even tried to suffocate one of his children in 2001 Not just to hardy carry hardy, but also to Grace community church staff passed to bill shannon within weeks of that confession in july 2001 gcc decided to Decided not to renew david's teaching contract now Let me just say something real quick because if some of y'all remember let's let's we refresh our memory for a second They put this woman out because she refused to take him back And she said if y'all want me to take him back This is all in this is all in in a deposition And in their in their counseling session that they she submitted to the court as proof She said if you want me to take him back, then y'all take him back and rehire him Kerry hardy told her you're being irrational. Of course. We cannot do that She said if you want me to take him back, then y'all need to take him back And they refused but they put her out for refusing to take him back Many of you have interacted with david on a personal level and like those of us on staff who know him You have great difficulty believing the accusation that had been brought It ends up being an issue of character whether or not david has demonstrated that type of character that fits these accusations or not We can still strongly say that the accusations do not fit with what we know of david. This is this is what This is what kerry hardy is saying Hardy then detailed an effort to raise $20,000 cash for david's bail $250,000 and collateral to complete the bail amount and 20,000 for lawyer's fees. I wonder how much money did eileen get I think we already know Hardy writes that he cannot And am not asking anyone to contribute but then asks the reader to pray about and consider what you might do according to your conscience Today david is serving a 21 years to life for aggravated cm corporal injury to a child nca And at the time of this writing the california border parole denied graze parole for 10 years That's kerry hardy Just showing y'all They called this man's this man's treatment of his children sadistic In other words that they used in court. You remember this one? Elda honcho You remember this guy? This is the recent one April 5th 2022 at the time of this um prominent elder at macArthur's John macArthur's grace community church has resigned stating in the email leaked to the roger port that his conscience and convictions were not aligned with the gcc elders remember they told this man to Do a do an investigation and he did They didn't like it Show a california attorney has written articles in the past decrying sexual abuse for pyromaniacs A blog by field johnson a gcc elder and executive director of macArthur's broadcast ministry grace to you so He didn't work for field until they didn't want him to do any more work anymore when it affected their bottom line Just just showing you all that This man was put out of the church and actually was forced to leave was forced to leave because he refused to Aligned himself with something that he knew was not right elder honcho this was an open letter to john macArthur by julie roiz regarding the the charges and Accusation that he refused to respond to island gray paul gway The letter he wrote to paul. I mean the letter that john macArthur wrote to the daughter of paul gway Who the father had had s aid? notice After admitting after the father admitting what he had done to his daughter macArthur says this quote paul we talked at a length talked at length about the situation You urge wendy to forgive her father and you confirm that paul gway will remain a faithful part of our staff Even after the fact she brings the charges against what macArthur says about himself. You inflated your credentials MacArthur does not have a doctorate degree, but people call him doctor macArthur He does not have an earned doctorate degree He embellished his story about martin luther king being assassinated saying that he was there There are key differences between the story you repeatedly told and the story told by eyewitnesses. This isn't miss remembering. It is misrepresenting She speaks about him enriching himself publishing falsehoods And on and on and on it goes Do you remember this story? him lying about being at the at the site when when when when MLK was was shot and he tried to mention and tried to insert Charles evers mega evers brother and charles ever said i didn't go with you there And then phil johnson tried to misrepresent charles evers Did y'all did john macArthur lie when he claimed to be the lone white guy? With black civil rights leaders the night martin luther king jr. Was assassinated The macArthur embellished the story claiming to have arrived at the hotel where mlk was shot just hours quote-unquote After the mlk's mlk assassination when he actually arrived days later Page rogers and brint dead while i know both of them. They had no reason to lie Had them both of my on my channel and discussed this very issue In a videotape interview with jesson peters two weeks ago, johnson admitted that macArthur misremembered some things Yet johnson says this pertains to little facts and incidental details that understandably might become fuzzy for 50 years johnson also asserts that a letter from dr. David nicolas president of shafts the bible college And an eyewitness to the events macArthur describes quote tells the same story john macArthur does Yet nicolas's letter contradicts portions of macArthur's account and reveals apparent significant inaccuracies in macArthur's story These aren't just details that johnson Alleges are minor like macArthur saying he stood on the toilet That james earl ray stood on when ray shot mlk in actuality ray stood in the bathtub From a top the toilet ray would not have been able to see through the windows to the laurene motel And there's pictures of all of this too at the time of that shooting Yes, he lied about having a phd. He does not have a phd. He has honorary degree He has not earned it The disputed details are substantial like what day did macArthur learn Of the of the assassination Where he was when he heard the news and the major characteristics of the group he was with macArthur claims He was the only white among a group of black civil rights leaders Nicholas says john perkins was the only black with five white guys That's that's that's rather significant, isn't it? In addition Johnson said in his interview with peters that he sent nicolas's letter to some of these people who were insistent on Calling john a liar specifically naming dead wilder johnson added they quote simply ignore any testimony and quote corroborating macArthur's account Yet dead wilder told the roars report that johnson never sent nicolas a letter roger said johnson never sent nicolas letter to her either And i know these people Plus nicolas's letter is dated june 19 2020 about a year after dead wilder's article published and 16 months after rogers's article published The letter by nicolas established that john macArthur was in mississippi on april 4th 1968 the night mlk was shot It also establishes that around that time macArthur was preaching And black churches and high schools with civil rights activists and pastor john perkins from that point the stories diverge at several points macArthur has told this story numerous times in multiple interviews spanning at least a decade in a 2018 blog post blog post and in ean murray's 2011 biography john macArthur serving of the world and flock Some accounts have more details than others But macArthur's basic assertions are consistent throughout which are documented below On the night mlk was shot macArthur claims He was he was with civil rights leader charles evers and evers NAACP office in jackson, mississippi at a 2007 desiring god conference MacArthur said quote I was down in the south in the office of charles evers the brother of mega evers When martin luther king jr. Was assassinated? similarly When interviewed by a former grace community church pastor rick collin in 2009 MacArthur recounts quote i'll never forget one night I was in the middle of jackson, mississippi in the office of a man named charles evers And we were sitting there and he was trying to explain to me that night in jackson What was going on and charles was talking and a man burst through the door and said martin luther king has been assassinated That happened that night while i was with charles and john perkins and some others evers Denies however evers denies being with macArthur the night mlk was shot as page rogers reported in 2019 evers insisted excuse me evers instead says He was in his car driving to nachis mississippi when his secretary called evers to inform him of mlk's death After evers published her article feel johnson released a statement in which macArthur claimed that he was Absolutely with evers The macArthur added that since he was a young unknown and with all of the trauma evers probably doesn't remember me Johnson also referred to evers to refer to rogers peace which included audio of brandon house Interviewing charles evers as a here it is y'all hit piece poorly disguised as a serious investigative report and posted online by people who obviously have a long standing agenda to discredit john macArthur end quote Nicholas's letter however confirms rogers's account that evers was not with macArthur on the night mlk was shot Nicholas's nicolas writes that on the night mlk was shot macArthur was with him and a group of musicians musicians from biola university ministering at the voice of calvary church where john perkins was the pastor Nicholas adds that the group was not informed of mlk's mlk's death until the following morning at 10 a.m While they were in a police station in mendor hall mississippi not evers's office After leaving the police station however, nicolas says perkins took the group to evers's office and introduced them to the civil rights leader I mean and on and on and on it goes y'all macArthur said he was arrested and put in jail, but According to nicolas who was supposed to support his story macArthur was not arrested to put in jail I got read this part macArthur claims. He was the only white president macArthur also claims He was the only white person in the group He was with when martin luther king was assassinated and days in the days following He says this same group traveled together to memphis to the site of mlk's shooting macArthur's 2011 biography states that macArthur was in jackson with a group that included john perkins and charles evers It adds that macArthur was quote the only white president In quote and that macArthur quote had grown to love these people and their culture in quote Then after learning of mlk's assassination, it states that quote the group's reaction was to drive through the night To memphis the scene of the murder and john went with them in quote But I can see you can go through this article and read that now let me go ahead and Bring this bring this home. I'm going to basically let you all know now that The Next clip I believe It is going to be it is going to be disturbing It is going to be disturbing It will be disturbing so let me just prep it now and make sure that everyone is able to gather their thoughts And I'm not saying it's to psych you up but I know How it affected me when I saw it But I'm going to read the story first Here's a question I want to ask you all you ever heard of the story operation rescue The incident that happened in 1989 It's titled operation rescue Operation rescue. Well, you about to find out now. Let me make the little bit larger article verifying john macArthur's advising bob vernin Bob vernin was a member of grace community church and he was also I believe He was a police chief. I believe assistant police chief quote This was in 1989. I believe it was quote The police department's second ranking officer assistant chief Robert A vernin has said in a recent magazine interview that he sought counsel from ever from elders at his church before deciding to arrest Anti-abortion protesters who violated the law notice anti-abortion protesters vernin who is himself an abortion opponent said he sought advice from leaders at grace community church in suburban sun valley before a controversial 1989 blockade of reproductive health clinics by the group operation rescue Los angers police commission member stanley shine bomb said friday that he was troubled by vernin by vernin statement that he conferred with church leaders before arresting operation rescue protesters Quote, this is the first time that there is any record There's any record that I know of where he actually has gone to his church to clear an action To clear an action. He's had vis-a-vis his police role shine bomb said That bears looking at in quote. He says in the april 29th edition of christianity today A 170,000 circulation magazine published 18 times a year vernin discussed the decision to arrest anti-abortion protesters In an interview about the national debate over poli over police brutality Raised by the march 3rd beating of rodney king quote I think abortion is murder pure and simple. So my problem is with operation rescue's tactics In quote vernin said in an interview quote Two and a half years ago when I knew that operation rescue was coming to our city I went to my board of elders and asked for their counsel They said they believed the tactics used by rescue participants Of violating the law resisting arrest and then lying about their names were wrong And that the police department was correct in enforcing the law So that is the posture. I took he said Vernon's religious views have become an issue before the la county Council and the city's board of police commissioners, which oversees the police department police officials including chief daryl f gates y'all know who he is Have defended vernin saying he keeps his job and his religion separate Gates also has accused critics of persecuting vernin for his religious beliefs vernin who oversees police departments operations declined to be interviewed In response to questions, he dispatched a copy of a first person article He wrote for a separate publication describing the dilemma He faces as a christian who opposes abortion and a police official responsible for securing securing abortion clinics In the article vernin acknowledges seeking biblical counsel from grace community church pastor john McArthur And other church elders while praying with them and examining the scriptures It's one of the read that in its entirety Before sharing with you The following video and again, I warn you this video is disturbing. So View of discretion is advised The last two years have seen the miraculous birth and growth of the rescue movement By the middle of 1990 there have been over 40 000 arrests As people have sought to save children from being killed by abortion and their mothers from being exploited Hundreds of babies have been saved from death as a result of this courageous stand Among those arrested often leading the way have been hundreds of clergy This explosion of christian activism is unprecedented in american history But this wave of activism has come with a cost Besides being arrested and often jailed in one city after another Nonviolent peaceful praying rescuers are being met with police brutality Brutality on a scale that has not been seen in the united states for over 20 years Injuries have ranged from having mace sprayed in the face of rescuers Including a two-year-old baby broken bones the near death of at least three grown men And pregnant women losing their babies in miscarriage However, this brutality has been all but ignored by the national media that in itself is a disgrace and an outrage The brutality you are about to see is fortunately not in every city Much of the footage you will see was shot by pro-lifers on the scene with home video cameras The brutality began in atlanta georgia in october of 1988 and these tactics were soon exported to other cities such as los angeles 800 praying pro-lifers were descended on by nearly 500 police Many owned horses and many wearing riot gear All day long the police systematically brutalized people resulting in many injuries including broken bones The police were astounded at how much pain the rescuers were able to endure In a sworn statement captain patrick e mckinley wrote Pain for many of the demonstrators is a catharsis for fast failure to take action against abortion Therefore the demonstrators have an unusual capacity to withstand pain With this unique ability to withstand pain comes the possibility of injury Since a greater degree of pain is required to induce compliance by the arrestee Frustrated with the courage and stamina of the rescuers the la pd decided to increase the pain On june 10 1989 they used nun chucks on the rescuers This is an illegal martial arts weapon and merely possessing one in california is a felony To be attacked with one is assault with a deadly weapon Never before in the history of america have nun chucks been used on nonviolent protesters This is the gruesome sight of what happened The police in unprovoked cruelty wrapped the nun chucks around michael hausman's arm and broke it When lawyers went to federal judge tishima to request he ordered the police to cease using them He denied the request saying in so many words that pro-lifers could not prove they were in any danger I can't tell you what it's like to be lying on the ground with police officers on On on a top of you using all sorts of torture holes to make you walk You can't walk even if you were you wanted to walk and and their sole intent is to torture you And and then listening to the screams of the people and somebody gets a bloody nose and and as I would look up There are these two deep rows of police officers beyond them standing on cars and on a wall We're just throngs of of pro-death people screaming for our blood and if somebody got a bloody nose They'd scream even louder and chanting blasphemous chanting That was the clip and you can probably watch the rest of it on youtube now interestingly You may have thought that this is somebody from the left that Um that produced this this footage this video actually is not This was the same producer eric homeberg who produced The video series on the history of Calvinism and titled amazing grace The history and theology of Calvinism So before anybody thinks that this is some armenian or some left-wing or some, you know Individual that that you know hates, you know, christians. No, this was a christian Production company that reported this Just saying Just saying Our close with this Um, this is from the book Bully pulpit bully pulpit bully pulpit and the uh, the author just that quick Let me go back here Um Yes from michael j cruger michael j cruger Is the is the author? That's why I hate doing it because I had it already set up. You know how that goes Where did it go? Here we go All right One further observation is in order While some churches might prefer giftedness over character Others prefer correct doctrine over Other prefer correct doctrine over character And and some conservative evangelical churches. It is not giftedness but doctrine That is king If a pastor can articulate his theology Sight the puritans Defend the truth against the liberals and keep the church doctrinally pure quote unquote Then character can take a backseat to be sure God cares very much about doctrine Especially for the pastors and teachers of the church But the same danger lurks here as for those churches that make giftedness the number one factor Namely, does that church ever let a pastor's doctrinal eloquence function as a shield against character deficiencies? Are such deficiencies overlooked precisely because the pastor is seen as the upholder of the pure faith? Sadly This happens more than we think Pure doctrine is sometimes seen as an indicator of pure character despite all the biblical evidence to the contrary Thus some people will never entertain the possibility of spiritual abuse against a theologically sound pastor in their minds It just isn't possible rather Rather poignant is it not? And that's what we're dealing with today That is what we are dealing with today People can't even fathom that John MacArthur is doing this other he has done But recedes don't lie recedes don't lie People do though And people cover up those things that they want to protect Just saying Just wanted to leave that with you all That was the haymaker by the way um I already know that this is going to probably um I may have to do some editing on it I'm not sure the sound of that the music may have may have thrown it off But we'll see hopefully it won't be an issue, but if it is I'll make the adjustments But this is why I have said to you all that we are up against um This is a battle for truth Truth is being censored not just from the world, but from inside the church We we have individuals that are trying to silence My voice because I'm speaking out against their idol John MacArthur And this is why this has this that we have to continue Uh to to stand for the truth and fight for the truth not not with with flesh and blood But we're the we're the we're the cedars of spiritual battle And we to use wisdom But we can't cower and we can't Back up and backpedal because we have a few people that don't like the things that we say or the things that we do And so I want to encourage you Continues to continue rather to support ministries like this Ministries like mine and others who strive to present and give you biblical Sound biblical teaching and doctrine and and things that you and I would be able to use and to apply to our very lives Because it is important and we're definitely living in those days now So Please like this video Please share this video If you have not subscribed to the channel, please do so by clicking the Notification bell at the bottom of the video again bcv merchandise. 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