 Today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Frank Bassa from Canada Cobalt Works. How are you today, Frank? I'm very good. Thanks very much. Frank, in preparing to talk to you about Canada Cobalt Works, I was so impressed with your background, you're a resource industry expert, so let's start with Cobalt. The Cobalt Starks are currently not performing the way I would think as an investor they should be performing. Can you tell us what's going on with the Cobalt industry? Actually, we were probably in the same spot like everybody was originally, and what we did was we kind of listened to the market, we listened to the people that would be buying our product, and we did what we call a technical. So we said, look, we'll show the world, I can remove the undesirables from our product and also produce the Cobalt sulphate that the market wants. So we were actually in China, in Japan, we spent 10 days in Asia about a year and a half ago, and what you're reading now, we already knew about that a year and a half ago. And we just came back from Europe, we spent some time in Germany. So we listened to the end buyers, we're targeting the end buyers. I think drill results are effective, but the reality what the market wants, what the end buyer wants is Cobalt sulphate, nickel sulphate, manganese sulphate, all these products. And so you have to show them that you can produce this product, you've got to meet their technical grades, technical specs, and you have to be very reasonable that what you have you can deliver on. All right, so let's just start for the investor intel audience. We are self-directed, accredited investors. Can you tell us what Cobalt sulphate is? What's the difference? Well, you see, a lot of the smelters, I'm going to produce Cobalt metal, but the castle makers, the castle makers are asking for Cobalt sulphate, and it's a special thing that they want. They want a certain grade, plus you have to have certain purities or impurities removed from the product. And then they take that product and they blend it with either a nickel sulphate or manganese sulphate or copper sulphate to make their own specific battery. It's sort of like a recipe of, you know, they have their own cookbook. So what you have to do is produce these products on spec so they can make their end product for the castle makers. So if I hear you correct, the real market for the Cobalt sulphate provider is the cathode market? Yes. Okay, so tell us about the cathode market. See, apparently everybody's been talking, that's what we saw. You know, all battery manufacturers, battery manufacturers, but the reality was, you go to the castle makers and they're the ones that produce the product for the battery manufacturing people. So it's kind of a little more sophisticated than Japan's even far more sophisticated. For example, we met with Nissan to talk to them to get a feel for the Cobalt market. And the way Nissan works, they have to buy it from a metal trader. And the metal trader buys it from somebody, gives it to their castle maker. And Nissan has a design battery that somebody else makes for them. And then Nissan gets the battery. So you can't just go to the end and use it. You've got to find out who the people you have to address. And this is what we're doing. We're talking to the people that actually use the Cobalt sulphate. Okay, so I'm an electric car maker. Say I'm Tesla. And I want to respect sustainability and I want to find my battery materials in North America. And then we're talking about the batteries. How does the cathode work with that? Like I said, I'm going to have you dumb this down for our audience, please. There's multiple things which you just said in terms of sustainability and all this. What the market wants. And even the Asians was interesting. Like I can produce, I can recycle the batteries and I can produce product. But they want to do it in a certain way. So the first thing that everybody wants is number one conflict free Cobalt. In other words, they don't want anything coming out of the DRC. Now, this is one of the reasons why we changed our name. And the majority of my financing has come out of the UK. So notice we use Canada. Product comes from Canada, so it's conflict free. So we call Cobalt. The reality is the castle makers don't just want Cobalt. They want nickel, manganese, cobalt, amicopter, multiple other elements or metals to make their cathode. And we called it work chain notes. We didn't say resource. We didn't say mining or anything like that. The reason we did that was basically we're targeting a very specific group that really wants their product, who just want product. In other words, they're not interested. The only thing they want is to make sure it's cathode. I mean, it's what they call conflict free that you can meet their specs. So they're looking for somebody as a process, produce their product. And that's all we did. And if you look at us, you'll notice we didn't put out a single drill result. And our stock went up to 90 cents solely on the fact that we have a process that can produce product that the end users want. That's all we did. Well, Frank, thank you so much for giving us some education in the general cobalt market. And if I understand you correct, the battery materials that they're actually seeking, is they're seeking the cathode that has the cobalt sulfite in it, is it? Is that correct? Cobalt sulfate. But it's not just cobalt sulfate. They're changing the chemistry. And the reason they're changing the chemistry, because they can't get enough of cobalt. So they're adding the nickel, the manganese, the copper. You'd be able to produce a battery that has a significant range. Well, let me ask you one more question before I let you go. There's a lot of companies out there claiming that they're going to create cobalt-free batteries. What are your thoughts on this? They can. The only problem with that is when we talk to people, for example, at Nissan, they say they can't take the cobalt out. Somebody has to stay because it stabilizes the battery. Now, I'm sure somebody will come up with a better design. It's just a matter of time. The only difficulty with that is when, again, I spoke to people at Nissan to commercialize a brand new battery or a new type of battery in Japan is 15 to 20 years. And I've talked to other people in Europe as well. I've been to a lot of these conferences. And it seems to be the same thing. You can't take the cobalt completely out. The battery's not stable. And the other thing is to commercialize a new battery, it's not a simple thing. Well, you heard it here. You can't take the cobalt out. And thank you very much, Frank, for joining us today. You're welcome. Thanks a lot. A pleasure.