 I think the idea of handing over to the Holy Spirit is just this opening up to this experience of guidance and it's just that the ego misuses the concept so much and can the I am guided, I am guided concept and the words can be used and misused and so on and so forth and it's kind of best like that. When I go to particularly Europe, when I've gone to Sweden and different countries in Europe there's just been so many seeming centuries of misuse, we'll say, seeming abuse of these religious symbols that there's a huge burnout. You know, the church attendance has been on the decline for a long time because of the bad taste that people have in their mouths around the whole idea of church. You know, it's like a four letter word operating in the air. One of our friends is coming, Sarah, she's from Ireland and so the whole history of the Protestants in the Catholics is so much a church thing per se as it was this fighting and fire bombing and war going on for decade upon decade upon decade and finger pointing and everything, all in the name of Christianity. You know, it was just like a repulsion or a revulsion would be a very idea of using this symbol so that began a process of a lot of washing and cleansing hurt to really kind of get down to what's the spirits use of it kind of in a fresh and innocent way really leading to spirituality or to a true experience of peace, not theologies and stances and rituals and the politics of denominations and fighting and all this and that but it was a lot of washing that had to be done with those concepts So it really is a journey of unlearning and that's what these discussions and these devotionals are just opportunities for a speed up in terms of really washing the mind free of everything. For many they have a very positive connotation but even that can border on the kind of sensiveness and a comfort with certain things and then feels like you know, where some people can have like an affront much more with that, you know, where it goes the other way so it's just good.