 I'd like to call the citizen's board a review for the city of Sheboygan into session. If we could stand and say the Pledge of Allegiance, please. I would like the members of the board to introduce themselves. Dave, would you start? David Inzi. Kenneth King, chair, and if we could have the city assessor introduce themselves, please. Excuse me, a little louder. Just a reminder that everybody should always use the mic for everything because we are on and so in order to do public meetings, we've got to speak into the mic so people can hear us. So anytime you say a word speak into a red-colored mic. Darcy Beardink. Ray Ann Schmidt. Michael Grotta, assessor. Chuck Adams, city attorney. Okay, those are all present, including the Meredith who is the clerk. We'd like to approve the minutes from the June 9th meeting available on the screen. I would entertain a motion for approval. So moved. Second. Motion and second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. What was the same sign? We have before us the two policies referenced. The first policy is a procedure for waiver of board of review hearing and request. Upon review, I would request the motion to approve. Second. Motion and second. Second. All right. All those in favor signify. Chairman? Yes. We discussed this at the last meeting and we ask that there's some revisions and I'm just asking the city attorney, were those added? Yes. So primarily substantive changes have to do with the idea that we're going to have different kinds of, it's not just telephone testimony that there are others and so including in your criteria, not only the ability to use those technologies but also a preference for virtual video testimony so that you can see documents so that you can see people so that that was added into actually both of those policies. So we are having actual phone videos? You may. It's always still your choice. We talked about swearing in of those people and is that still going to be included? Yes. You'll still be able to swear people in, all that, all the legal sort of technicalities are covered and that's part of the criteria as well. It's designed to be fairly flexible so that people can, if technology changes or people have specific needs, you can consider it but it is also designed to leave you with the primary decision as to whether the process that is in place is appropriate. So you can always say no. Very good. Thank you. Any other discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor as presented. The document is presented, signified by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. The second procedure that we need to look at and approve is the sworn telephone and sworn written testimony request. That procedure is outlined on page two of the documents provided to you today. After your review, I would entertain a motion for approval of that policy. Motion second? Second. Motion in second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. It passes. We request the qualifications of the assessor's office. Check, do these need to be read into the record or can we accept them as presented to the board? I almost broke my own rule. Yeah, you can simply accept them and then they would come in as an exhibit to the minutes. Thank you. Okay, let it be noted that we have received the qualifications of Darcy, Ray Ann, and Michael as required. I would entertain a motion to accept these qualifications as part of the record. All motion. And second? Motion and second to accept. They're accepted. I would now like to ask the assessor to review the assessment role. And give us an overview. First, I've got the assessor's affidavit that's signed and dated today. I'll present to the clerk. The assessment role presented today stands at a total valuation for locally assessed real estate at 2 billion, 412 million, 706,100. Looking at the summary of change, listing starting on the left-hand side, excuse me, bottom. The border review last year adjourned with a total valuation of 2 billion, 345,689,800 dollars. And then working right on this form shows the changes that were made during the assessment process in the last year. We had decreases due to revaluation or reconsideration of 8,363,500. We had property that went from accessible to exempt, totaling 2,081,200 dollars. We had property that was removed or destroyed at 458,900 dollars. We did have a small gain by annexation, 217,800 dollars. And then new construction, totaling 65,029,300 dollars. Property onto the assessment role from exempt, totaling 1,772,700. And then property increased due to or revaluation or reconsideration, 10,017,100 dollars. Reaching the total being presented today of 2 billion, 412,706,100 dollars. Just a brief summary of the border review or leading up to the border review, there was approximately a 70,379,000 dollar gain in assessed value for real and personal property. Projected ratio is at 88 percent. The general notices of assessment were mailed on May 4th. There was an additional mailing that took place for about a dozen properties that took place on June 30th. And as far as open book, there were 52 amended notices. Most of those were for a partial condominium project where there was reconsideration given after reviewing their exact costs. The assessor to affidavit has been signed and all required reports to the Department of Revenue have been sent in a timely fashion. I'm open if there's any questions. What was the annexation that took place? It looks like that was a residential property, approximately two acres with a house. And that was almost a total on that value? 217,800. Okay, excuse me. Just a residential building. It was. Thank you. Any other questions to the board, the assessor, and the assessment roll? If not, I would entertain a motion to accept the roll as presented. Motion second. Motion and second to approve the roll as presented. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Post same sign. Roll is accepted as presented. Are there any other any waivers? I believe the board has been requested to approve two waivers. And then we do have a filing for an objection to be heard. I'm going to ask this board and I'm not sure if now is the appropriate time that a waiver be requested for festival foods. Who is the third applicant that was filing for border review during? Okay, so the request is so we don't want you to take action on those waivers yet though. You need to make your motion first. That's the appropriate time? Yes. I would like to request for the all three of the properties that are would be seeking or would be requesting a waiver from border review. That the board of review would issue subpoena for requested records. And the reason for the subpoena is to get information that would only be attained through litigation and deep into the litigation. And I think that that is of benefit to the city, the border review, and to the assessor to get that information promptly. And we cannot do that after a waiver has been approved. The subpoena needs to be issued and complied with prior to that waiver being approved. And what I think the benefit is going to be to find out again information we wouldn't get until deep into litigation whether the property owner or their agent has sufficient information to overcome the presumption of correctness in the assessment. And if there is that presumption or detail lease information that isn't apparent now, that it's going to help the border review in the city in the long run. A question for the city attorney. There has not been an objection filed on this property, is that correct? So there, well there's been an objection filed on each of the three, right? To the best of my knowledge, yes. I believe there has been on each of the three. And so what's happening here is that there were two of the three that filed for waivers themselves and there's one of the three for which the assessor has filed for the waiver. But before acting on them he's made a motion and the state statute number is 70.47 sub eight sub D and it does indicate that the border review shall upon request of the assessor and he's made that request shall compel the attendance of witnesses accept objectors and then this is the important part and the production of all books, inventories, appraisals, documents and other data which may throw light on the value of the property. So in essence, when the assessor comes and makes that motion of you, you actually have no choice under the statute but to accept that motion. And so in essence what will happen is, as you know, I represent you today. I don't represent the assessor. The assessor has hired an attorney, Amy Seibel and she did inform me of the basis for the motion. Ms. Seibel will be preparing subpoenas that will go out of each of these three applicants have filed documents that allow them to just simply serve the subpoenas by mail but she's indicated that she needs five to six weeks to compel that information. That information then will be available to you when you hear the hearings or waive the hearings. Likely the hearings will simply be waived because of the requests and then they will, you know, they'll move on in the process but the assessor will have that information. As such, the proper motion by you would simply be to pursue it to 70.47 sub 8 sub d and pursuant to the request of the assessor to compel the production of all books, inventories, appraisals, documents and other data which may throw light upon the value of the property with regard to each of the three objections. Do I have such a motion? So moved. Motion second. Motion and second to approve the request per Wisconsin statute. Which? All those in favor? Yes. Which one is the one that we're requesting legal action on? It's actually all three. It's to get subpoena on each of the three objectors. Okay, we received a copy of the request for two. The third one is is the, it's known as shabuigan fast or festival foods. Is the third that the assessor is requesting, you know, potentially requesting a waiver. That motion has all those in favor signify by saying aye. All right. All right. Motion is passed. Any other waivers or requests? If not, ask the clerk for a schedule of today's objections. Okay, there are none. As a result, we need to go into recess. Yes. So what you'll need to do now is go into recess and come back two hours after you started the meeting. Okay, that will allow any other objections to be filed within a reasonable time as agreed to and published publicly as required by state statute. This time we will stand in recess and reconvene it at 10 o'clock. I'd like to reconvene the citizen border review of the city of shabuigan. Request the clerk, has there been any additional objections filed? No, there's not. Okay, having no additional objections. I would like to entertain a motion to adjourn to a future date to be determined based on the waivers we presently have under review. Motion second. Motion and second, we will stand adjourned until a future date to be determined as a result of the waivers. Having no other business, we will adjourn at this time.