 I apologize for that short break. We're back, of course, to continue these discussions. We would have to very likely reschedule the conversation with the Anambra State Police Public Relations Officer, who is currently on site at one of the crime scenes in Newey, that of course were meant to be discussed, and very likely will bring that conversation up tomorrow. So we can get a very, very robust conversation with the Police Public Intelligence Officer in Anambra State. But Boston Deirakbe has joined us now via Zoom. Good morning once again. I remember the last time I was here. This is the typical case in the past. Okay. Now, so let's continue the conversation, and let's move closer to... Well, still in Anambra, let's go to Newey now, where, of course, there were reports that the DSS facility and the FRSC office were both attacked and set ablaze. There's still no confirmation about casualties, if any, or how many they are. But this, once again, is just pure evidence of how deadly these persons are and how weakened the security agencies in the southeast are currently. How is this not, you know, shouldn't the whole of the southeast currently see that they are in danger? The southeast have seen that they are in danger since now. They have seen that they are in danger today. They have seen that they are in danger a very long time. In danger, a very long time. So they know they are in danger, you will tell me. So if you see the southeast, you see that they are in danger. The southeast has already seen that they are in danger. So I don't think that's what we should be looking at. They know they are in danger already. They know they are in danger already. Glucose. They know they are in danger already. So what we should be looking at right now is that the South East move forward in this sort of environment. That's what I think we should be looking at. How do the South East move forward in a secure environment? The South East knows they're in danger. Now how do they come out of this danger? It's not we should be addressing. You are saying that they are not only attacking the police or commissions or LSDC as we know to be. They have proceeded to attack the units of the government which is the Department of State Service. Now this attack has proceeded to their offices to attack their facilities. There is not about this again. How do the people in that region live safely? I'm talking about safely. How do they live safely and secure? What measures are the government going to put in place to secure their citizens? They are shown by things to protect. And who are the citizens the government wants to protect in the first place? Does the government even know these people? That's all that is. Does the government even know these people? That's all we should be looking at. They don't even know who they want to protect and who they are supposed to arrest. So these are the things to be looking at. So I think the government should go back to the drawing board. Sit down and properly construct an idea that we have them to protect the South East now that it is just starting. Number one is this. I repeat, every South East that is appointed by this administration of President should be redeployed back home. What kind of conversations would you say that they should be having with whoever it is that is willing to listen to them in the ranks of the IPOB and these criminal elements? Whether it is IPOB or whether it is criminal or not, these people are politicians from that state. They are very big. They have control of most of the youths. They get the votes. Isn't all the youths that vote for them? They should go back to these people and give them their votes. That is their job. Whatever position, whether you are elected or appointed, you are appointed because you come from a part of this country. So they should go back to that as they come from. Here they have a lot of influence. And now, with life you are influenced on behalf of the federal government that are appointed there. Because we do men between the federal government and these places where you come from, you are a federal body by a federal government and an individual by debt or whatever that means. So that is what I expect the federal government to do. We employ every minister. We need from the minister of labour productivity. We employ him now. Back to his community. Let him go back to Rana Brastit. The minister of labour in Rana Brastit. Go back to Rana Brastit and see how to settle this problem. The minister has a strong hold. Not only him. Every federal government appointee, especially, I am working on the ministers because they have more federal relationship with the presidency that works. They have more federal influence. We know even much more than the senator in terms of the federal executive. They are the ones in the federal executive. Let an early other person that is given an appointment at the federal level that is recognized by the president. The other says to the president from the ego speaking region should be deployed back to his locality to go and see how we can come up with solutions to solve this problem. Because I think the police are lost. Now they are attacking the SS. Of course we know that we have heard stories. So these boys, even if you go in first with them and you are shooting at them, you might not just kill them. Your ambition might just come to nuts before them. So at this point we need people from there to share dual interests. And these ministers share dual interests. By appointing the shared interests of the current government in Nigeria then by being citizens of this locality they share the interests and the well-being of these people. So you see, they are the right people now to be sent back to these places to discuss. So that when they go, they know the people to meet from Kosovo that can call people, that can call people, that can call people, that can call people. They know how to get messages across. They know how to talk. All of them should be sent back. There are some other flesh hours like the command of the Global Aviation State Minister and Senator Odjus Okalo. Odjus Okalo can be sent also to have their seats. Having which people in Nigeria's seats should be sent back to begin to discuss with their people and then go and put a workable solution to the current government. This will minimize civilian casualties. This way we will be able to pinpoint proper solutions that is lasting coming from the people accepted by the current government through their representatives such as ministers as I have mentioned now. That is the best way to leave this at the go. If you leave it for the policemen alone to fight I am not even sure we can fight. If you leave it for the military, I am not even sure the military can do it. What have the military done in the north? Where they left it for them? The police, through their workable, handed over the battle flag to the police in the north. Till today, have they been able to stop Okohara? Instead, while they are there, we are getting more killings and more business coming up. Excellent are coming up and coming up. The military has not been able to stop them in the north. So what makes you think they can do anything in the south? That is one. Two, the military government will not leave the violation of several innocent people's rights, especially women and children. They are right to be violated. So you see? And it is ridiculous. So the government cannot say they want to use force on them. It will not work. The government should use intelligence. And this intelligence should be used properly. But if the government will want to achieve results, they should deploy every certain senior government at a federal level within his political, within his political place, and talking of those in the same party with him, especially in states where they have strong will, like now, currently they are in a state, a new state is having these issues. So they should do it before I talk to them, to go to the grass, to talk to them about the violence, to go back to the grass, and see how to discuss with the people and come up with a change. Is there any... First of all, people, if this country finally gets defined, they think, look, I do not pray for this country to get so sadistic. I love Nigeria. But example, I'm just being an example, take for instance, if this country finally gets divided, once the current minister of Lebanon, he still remains in Nigeria. If he not come back to whatever place that he was provided, and his environment falls into, and his state falls into, is that not where he will come back? So why not he now be deployed now that nothing has happened so that he can run and show nothing happens? This is how government works. This is what we are going to do now. Let's wrap it up with... Let's wrap it up with your thoughts on what you feel the people of the Southeast, is there any role that they can play at a time like this? Because they are the ones being affected. In certain parts of the Southeast today, it's Monday, they will be sitting at home. Businesses are being affected, lives are being affected. Is there any role that these persons in the Southeast can also play to salvage what they call home? We all know that his major source of livelihood is business that is being affected. You understand me? So it is causing more harm to the West than good. Since it is not the whole Nigeria that is sitting at home, what I want to advise is that these politicians from Apuja Condan, and they are ready to make this, they, whatever the local people are doing, they make sense. But however I like to advise the local people to do this, the women are the major parts that can play role. More specifically, widows, women, they should be the ones that, whatever it is, if they like what is going on, they can still have no problem. But if they don't like what is going on, they should learn how peacefully reach out to these, their children, the ones they can reach out to, and be able to give them business work. This place is mostly peaceful. That is for the ones that are being perpetrated by the entire people in this establishment. I don't want to say anything because I have not seen anybody doing anything. So for the ones that are being perpetrated by the people in the internal, internally in the Southeast region, mothers, widows should stop off and see how to begin to make a cause. If possible, cut out. They have a way to come out. They are women. They have done it before. The Aba women right of the 1921 was part of what we left around the time. So, I think this women from Igbo, Igbo tribe, they have very flesh out where they are living. So, we should be able to encourage the women. If they don't like what is going on, they should speak up for it, but nothing gives their children what they should tell their children now. That's what I want to advance. That's what we need to push in the right direction. I think that is what I want to add. At this point, mothers are very important. Mothers are very, very important. Wasn't there right, B? We would have to wrap up here. Thank you very much for your time, both on the phone and via Zoom also. We always love to speak with you and hear your perspective on these issues. We wish you a very interesting week ahead. Looking forward to talking to you again. All right. And this is where we wrap up the conversations this morning on the breakfast. It's mostly being in the southeast and getting to understand what exactly is going on over there and what must be done. We would have a rescheduled conversation with the Police Public Relations Officer in Anambra State to get some clarity of what exactly happened over the weekend and what is currently being done to secure the southeast. If you missed out on any of these conversations, remember to catch up on our social media platforms and simply at Plastic ReAfrica on Facebook and Instagram. Same with our YouTube channel. I am Osaogi Ongbong. Have a great Monday.