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Stop playing. How you doing? That boy Dave is in the building, man. What's up, Chief? Come up close to that mic, yeah. Speak right into the mic. Yeah, speaking to the mic, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How you doin' again? How I sound now? You sound great. All right, good. Ah! You can hear it in your ear if you really listen. Yeah, I know what sound good is. Yeah, you go. That's why I like it. Sexy, I like it. Save, man. So, no, Zara, man, and Dave, what's going on, baby? What's going on? Talk to me. You family, you know you family. That's right. I'm your attorney to meet you, a criminal attorney. You really family. That's right. Like, I might need you anytime. I'm gonna pull up. No, I so love it. Man, Zara, so what's going on? I mean, I'm here. You're gonna both talk. I'm so happy to be here. Happy to meet you guys. Where you from? I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio, but. Hot shit I knew it, man. That sound country. No, I knew she wasn't from here. Why? I just could tell. It's just the way she kinda came up in here, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just from Columbus, Ohio. Yeah! Yo, Dave do me the same way, man. I'm God, he do me the same way. Man, so we gonna get into it a little bit. What's going on, baby? None, we wanna know. So, raised in Columbus, Ohio, how old were you before you moved from there? I left when I was 19. 19. So you were raised with your mom, dad, siblings? Grandparent. Grandparent, yeah. Where was your mom and dad? My mom was in and out of the hospital. She was bipolar, so she was just around. And my dad was an alcoholic, so he was kinda in and out. I never really seen him much. How did that affect you as a young girl growing up? I'll say my grandparents did a good job at filling in the gap, so it didn't really. So you didn't feel like, you know, where's my mom, why, you know, did you see her? Like, cause bipolar one minute, you're this way, the next minute, did you ever see her trip out? A lot. A lot? Yeah, there were times when my grandma would drop me off at her house. There would be a TV thrown through the window. It was just, it was a lot, that I had to mentally process as a child. And I think I just hid within my art. I hid within singing, you know, I found artists that I love, Aliyah, was someone that I kinda obsessed over. Right, everybody during that time did. Yeah, I loved Aliyah, so I just hid in music. Oh, wow. So because the reason why I like to ask these questions, because I really believe that there are a lot of people who are introverts who stay on YouTube, watching different podcasts, watching different videos, and they may be going through the same thing, cause kids don't like to open up, don't like to talk to adults or anything like that. And if they don't talk to us, we can't help them. So if they can gain help through these videos, that's what I'd love for anybody to do. So how did you deal with that, though? You said through your art, but did you speak to somebody about it? Did she ever abuse you? She didn't. My grandmother just, she loved her. You know, my mom was a sweet spirit, you know what I mean? So you just kinda always felt sorry instead of embarrassed. I never felt embarrassed about her. No, I felt embarrassed. Mm-mm, I just loved her for who she was. And that really just taught me to appreciate everyone. But how old were you? Because a lot of kids can't understand that. It'd be like, mom, why aren't you normal? Why do you have to be like this? That's what I'm thinking that a kid would ask a mom, like, why are you different? Why are you, you know, can't understand? I've never known her to be normal. I never knew her to be normal. She's always, she was always like that since I was born. Did you ever, growing up now, do you ever have a fair, like, you know, do you check to see if that is in your DNA? I've checked, I've been checked a few times because I'm like, man, my life has been kinda up and down, so that's something I've gone to therapy for, just to see if it's something in my DNA, but hasn't. Okay, God. I know. No, because that's the thing that people do fair, you know what I mean? Especially knowing and seeing what your mom went through, being like, okay, did she pass it down to me? Especially when you're dealing with people and relationships and all of that stuff, people might look back and be like, man, that's probably why I acted that way, that's probably why I am like this, you know? Yeah, I had to always be the calm one, because when I got older, I became her power of attorney, her and my younger brother, so I think it skipped me and went to my younger brother. So he's bipolar. Wow, how much younger is he than you? He's four years younger than me. Okay, did you notice that in him as a kid growing up? Yeah, he was in and out of the hospital too, in and out of jail, until finally he just got permanently admitted to the hospital, so. So your mom didn't wanna take medication? She did, but the thing about bipolar is the doctors don't really know what to prescribe them with. They just kinda tried different things. Yeah, and it's like they never could get her pills right. So it was one of those things where it was like she would have six pills this time, eight the next time, and it just fluctuated all the time. And they came clash with each other too, because I had a friend who, she was diagnosed, she was the coolest person, like, adult years, I mean fun. Right. I never thought that she was bipolar, if she was just always up, right? I never saw her down, she was just always up, ready to take on any challenge, she would do anything. And one day she just went missing, and I'm like, what the world? That's not like her, and she was just gone, you couldn't find her. Eventually came around, found her, she went, she tried to kill herself. She drove off a cliff, and did not die. Wow. She used to deal with, I don't know how the cliff looked, so I doubt it was like that high, but she even, she dealt with a lot of horses too. She inject herself with horse tranquilizers, did not die. Wow. And I've told her, after I found her later on, because she went on medication, and we talked about it, and I was like, God has a purpose for you, cause all of the things you did to try to kill yourself, and you did not die, there's a reason you're still here. Absolutely. And she told me the battle she went through with the doctors trying to find the right medication, and taking some, and they didn't do right. And you would think that people could turn around and sue the doctors for it, because you always know that, okay, this medication can't take with this one. When you go to the pharmacy and pick up your medication, they said, if you're taking this, don't take this. So I'm like, how do people fall in that trap of taking things that don't, you know? So I'm just like, but a lot of people deal with bipolarism, and I know there's different levels of it. Very much so. Y'all so seriously connected with this bipolarism, and you know, my granddad and them used to beat it out of you. Don't be honest with you. This is just something different for me. You know what I'm saying? Like y'all, you know, I've seen a lot of times my auntie tried to go into it. You know what I'm saying? And when she did, my grandpa pulled out, because he did not let you do certain things in a certain way in his house. I didn't ever experience the fact of a child not being all the way up until adulthood, a certain way if they was trained in the house that my grandparents live being. I think a lot of times what we do today is something different. We've given the people a lot of outs. True. A lot of times we worship, worry. We do all type of stuff to try to figure out how to put a name on something so we can give you power. And at the end of the day, there should be essence. For me, that foundation is God. But for other people, they're trying to find it out through all these different situations and circumstances. And it's just life coming right at you. It's true. See, I do this. I know I can do this. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's the truth. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, for me, because I always say for me, because everything you speak is your opinion. True. It's not something I might, you might not ride with it and that's cool, but I'm telling you how I deal with it. But I'm telling you right now, people are power to puff. They're not reading a word or what they're not trying to figure out these spiritual sides. So we try to find other things to place inside of that spiritual essence of who we are. Right. Because there's physical, there's emotional, you know, there's all type of sides to you as an individual. But until you tap into your spiritual side, you will have a certain emptiness inside of you. It's true. So you can go get your counselors on that. Because I'm telling you right now, you're going to need some God in your situation. And a lot of time, you're feeling it with wine for women. Mm-mm. What? It's a kind of rum for men now. What's a rum for men? Since you're talking about wine for women. I was going to go there, you had to let me get it going. Whatever the case may be, we're taking cars, all type of idolization, our jobs. Fillers. And trying to figure out ways to be fulfilled when you would never, ever feel that fullness in life without giving your life over to God for me. Or feeling that spiritual void with something that has essence that gets you prepared for certain situations that you're gonna face. It's true. And I agree, I agree. But my question to you is, do you not believe that there are people out here who have a chemical imbalance in their brain sometimes where they can't help certain things even when they do have God? Do you believe that? No, I don't. I'm being honest with you. I've never seen that when, like I said, the thing I go back to is there's nothing more powerful than God. So I have to go there for me. I'd say for me, because I don't want people to take this wrong. But for me, there is nothing more powerful than God. So whatever you give that power to, then that can become you. And if you mentally got some issue, I seen those mental issues get turned off by my grandparents. I know these niggas was crazy at eyes. But it's just the way you raised. I'm telling you, for me, for what I've seen, but today society changed it and made it to where you can call it bipolar, ADD, stat, and everybody's fancing it up. The next thing you know, you got somebody sitting over here believing it because you've put that into their thought pattern as well. So I think that has a lot. If you tell me I'm something so much, it'll become me because you're now training me into which way you want me to go. I've adhered to it. I believe you. So now my believing is taking me there and I'm going to just wallow in that belief system. That's my way of thinking. But at the end of the day, I'm still learning. Yeah. So I can always fall back to that. That's right. I used to feel that way, but I grew up in a family where we went to church five days a week. You know what I mean? So it wasn't a situation where we had an absence of God. It was more, and I thought, is it the medicine that they're taking that's making them sick? But when you see the interaction with those people that are battling those diseases or illnesses, it ain't a mind thing. It's something there. Like I don't know, it's deeper. Well, let me ask you this. You say we grew up. We went to church five days a week. I believe that you should be the church five days a week. I don't feel like you can. Seven days a week. Seven days a week. Whatever that time you go to church or whatever, you should be, this thing should become you. A lot of time going to church is not enough. That's something where you get there and that's a show. You know what I mean? It's very much a show. So at the end of the day, I just feel like a lot of times people don't, I mean, they don't totally surrender to God. They don't know how to. But I'm just saying, this is something that happens. And we can say, because I know people that went here and went there and it looks the part, but when you really look at it, it's not, the essence is not there. No, it's not, but we teach religion. But if you tell somebody, that, hey, man, I would go over here and they cool with that and they think you good. But you know a lot of times. You see what I'm saying? Just because I go over here with you, I always tell people, people pass the church up, going to the church. Because the church is the people that's out there that needs help. You know what I'm saying? I didn't mean to take this as a religious place, guys. But I'm just saying a lot of time when you look at things the way people are, like I have a lot of people that talk to me like that pastors that come in here, they've been on this show and the first thing they'll say, well, yeah, man, well, you know, yeah, we've been up there teaching for years, but at the end of the day, that's a start. But you have to live this. This has to become you. Yeah, I mean, I personally in my life experience don't feel like I really got to know God until I left the church. See what I mean? There it is. I mean, I was married to a pastor. Really? So I've been all into, in the crevices of church. Wow. And so I can. So you understand. I do. So, and that's what, I mean, and that's the part, man, like tradition and religion, as you named it, which, you know, the Bible says religion is taking care of the orphans and the widows and the book of James. So at the end of the day, I think a lot of time we take these certain situations and we put these different, like I said, again, titles, title and position don't guarantee productivity. So when you look at the way that things are, a lot of times people will put these situations in place and you live into them. But at the end of the day, is it really helping you? Is it really changing your life? I don't think, I think you have to bump your head. I think you have to go through that divorce. I think you have to go through that car wreck. I think you have to go through that life sentence. I think you have to go through your friend getting shot. I think you have to go through life situations in order to really have an experience with God. For me, I have to go back to say for me again, you have to bump your head. So religion does not impress me for the Bible says the tradition of man have made the word of God of none effect in chapter 15 of Matthew. I'm just being real. So I don't really go by, I'm different. I've always been different. I'm cool with that. You know what I'm saying? I don't have to go which I don't even, I've never been a member of no church. Let's be real for a minute. But I am a member of, I believe. So I don't put no strange and no traditional, nothing I do, I tied my camel to a date tree. Y'all, go on girl, go on, you know what I'm saying? Do your thing, man, go and do your interview, man. No, but you're totally right. A lot of people, they bump their head but they have to continually bump their head because we're only human beings. We bump our head and we find God for that moment and then we go back, right back to doing what we're supposed to be doing. Or what we're not supposed to be doing, I should say. But once you found him once and you hold him on, you can always have him there. You just know wrong from right in a way in which you're supposed to walk. And the bad part about people, and that's everybody is the fact that we tend to wanna judge people because you bump your head and you might have a status or you might be, maybe not even a status but you claim God at that moment and they turn around and you're over here doing something you're not supposed to be doing. Then people are, oh, I thought you was a Christian. I thought you was this and start to really degrade you in a certain way and whatever but you're not supposed to really judge that person like that. I know there's parts in the Bible that say you're supposed to judge. I'm going to judge him because I gotta help him because I gotta help him build character too. You gotta talk to people. You can't just let people walk around and do anything. I wouldn't mispron that one up. Let's talk about it. We'll let you talk about it. I see you got something you want to say. But go ahead. So I hear that a lot. What does judge someone really mean? Well, here we go. You're beautiful. You got this orange shirt on and you come in here your stomach all fit. I don't know what's going on and you, great. And at the end of the day, I just judge you. But that was cool. But when I say, you look like an alien cause your head long. Now you're going to get offended. Let's be real. But I'm saying when you judge a person, the Bible says judging not that you, judging not to be judged for what judgment you measure or measure back to. So if I'm telling you something that I feel is right, then I don't mind you measuring me back by that same judgment. So give me your opinion on someone is judging them. Cause typically when you judge someone, you're judging them to this side or that side, right? So let's say for instance, in the legal perspective. Okay. You got to do the legal perspective. Cause he's an attorney, you know what I'm saying? An attorney is speaking, let's go. So a judge sits there on the bench with the black robe on and they do a lot of things. But one thing that will sentence you to either jail or probation, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You play guilty, they didn't judge you guilty. You play guilty if you took a plea. Correct. If you went to trial 12 people in the jury say that you were guilty. That's right. The judges just called the judge, right? Yeah, that's right. So your fate as far as whether you going home or not, yeah, they'll look at your PSI and all that type of stuff and say, okay, I think you deserve to go to jail or if you can get probation, right? They don't know anything about you. They're talking about a case, right? That's on that level, right? Okay, boom. When we start talking about lifestyles in the church, for instance, if I say, hey, such and such, if it's my sister, that's not right. You can't wear that high skirt up in here. I'll give you an instance. Why is your skirt up to here? Yeah, I'm not judging you saying you... You take the little handkerchief and throw it over. I've seen them do this before. They throw that little handkerchief. You had it thrown on you, didn't you, girl? Ah! I'm sorry, man. No, Rick, so take what you just said, right? I'm not judging you saying you lose. You understand what I'm saying? But that's not appropriate in this setup, right? That's right. I'm not judging you. I'm just correcting you. Okay. Why is that such a big deal? It's not a big deal. At the end of the day, I like to say structure is something that's needed. But a lot of times, people get in their feelings, too. When they're going... Like, I just told you that defensive thing becomes a thing. That's where it becomes a judgment to them. When you start being defensive about what you're being called or how you feel about it, once your feelings get involved, now I'm gonna, ah, he judging me. But let me jump in right there. No, but let me jump in right there. Okay, but when you're saying that to this person, and especially if the person know you, and they say, yeah, you saying this, but you over here doing this, this, and you drinking, smoking, this, this, but you telling me it's not appropriate here, but what are you doing? Then if they know something about you, that's when they get defensive and saying, but you doing this, this, this, and this. But here's my above. So, okay, go ahead. If I'm smoking or drinking in my home, I don't care what you wearing in your home. If you wanna wear that little be skirt at home, so be it. But if we a church or wherever it is, no, I'm not drinking or smoking in church. Or, okay, example, let me switch it to church. You in church messing with this girl over here that's married and that's wrong in the church, but then you talking about my skirt. So how is that working? Okay, so the Bible already judged that act right if you believe in it. So it ain't even about what I say if I was doing that. I'm already been judged because it's already laid out, right? So if you're asking, does that give me the right to give my opinion on someone else? But where the skirt is concerned, I'm glad you said that, but in the Bible, it doesn't talk about a short skirt, but it says you want them to come, but come how they are. Maybe that's a short skirt, that's all she has. I didn't say leave the church. I said, let me give you this hand. Yeah. And another thing, there is, yeah, you right. I ain't even gonna go there with you. But I could, but I'm not gonna let you make it. But I just know that if you, you know, there should be some things that appropriate you when they come down, you change. And if you say you change, but it does, there is a process. So there are different, but that process is now something where I can shock you when I throw this handkerchief over your little leagues. You know what I'm saying? I'm making a help you when I tell, you know, come in here wearing them earrings in this church, you know, like certain people don't, they don't want the guys wearing earrings. Different things. I'm just being real. So at the end of the day, these things are things that, I mean, I think they're put in a place to help like, I mean, I don't, I don't know, cause I don't really do the church thing like that. That's not my thing. I mean, I am, the word church come from a Greek word meaning Ecclesia. It simply means to be called out from among them. And I know that. So I don't have to go to the church. I am the church. Know you're not at your body is a temple and the spirit dwells within you. So I'm a guy that believes that. So I walk and I believe you should worship God where you stand. So you might not make it to no church, but I'll be able to talk to you in front of me right now. So that's how I believe. So, and a lot of people don't, they raise differently, but there's nothing wrong with that. And I don't look at others just because they believe a certain way or raise a certain way and say you shouldn't do it this way. That was all type of people that believe different ways even in the book that we read. So I think people should just grow up. And I think you can be running around here acting as if just because I do something a certain way that you insecure in your belief system of how you do it. I'm cool with it. I don't care. I just know when God speaks to me, this is what he told me to do. So that's how I look at it. And it don't matter if you're a bishop. I don't care how many times you come up here with your reverend, all that, you know this too. I'm gonna, we gonna do this word thing together from Genesis as well. I'm that guy for real, for real. Like it don't matter who you are. I got it. So I didn't have a man here. And this is a respect thing at the end of the day. But you believe how you believe, I believe how I believe and it's cool. And if you need me to come help you with the homeless, feed the children, whatever, I'm gonna be the first one to pop up and show up. But I'm not gonna play no games with you because I deal with God. And the word I read says quench not that spirit. So I can't quench the spirit. I can't go against what the Holy Spirit tells me. That makes sense. A lot of sense. So that's how I stand like this. She knows she been standing beside me for 20 years. But she crazy. But that's the way we taught our children ourself. Absolutely. And my son know that. Anybody, you gonna read that word, you know? You gonna get, why we call him dad? He gonna read that word today. So you said you were raised in a church. So you grew up singing in a church as well? Yep. I was in every choir that they had. So when did you start singing? How old were you when you started singing? I've been singing since I can remember. That was all I did for a while. Even through school, I sung in every choir in school. I did drill team. I was drill team captain for a while. Where did you get that talent from? Your mom, your dad? My grandmother sung opera. Oh really? Can you sing opera? I cannot. Oh wow, you never try to hit those notes? I have, I mean I have a very wide range but I've never tried opera. Did you ever do vocal classes? I did when I was in college. You did? Okay. It was fun. But it was boring. Did it help? A lot of people say oh I need vocal training but does it actually help? It's hard for me to say because yes for some but it depends on what style of music you're going into. That's how I see it. It don't help me. So what did you go to school for? Music. And did that help you actually going? Cause some people are like I don't need to go to college for music, I can just do music. I start, so I got a full ride doing music and then I switched over to psychology. Oh okay. Oh you think you're going to psychology? That ain't gonna happen. Psychology. What you be doing trying to look through people's thoughts? You know I became infatuated with it because my mom, my brother, it was a thing. That's why I said I understand your perspective because I've learned and studied different perspectives. You married a preacher though? Yeah. I did. She said I did. You can say this but then you go out here and marry a pastor, good writing, let's do writing. Got on guy. Y'all hanging out. On guy. And then you figure it out and the guy be like you know I'm talking about this. How long were y'all married for? Five years. Five years? No the reason why I asked you that because it's so crazy. We had another pastor who came on and I don't remember if we spoke about this on camera or off the camera but we were talking about how in a lot of these churches cause I think I had seen a post on Facebook one time. It was a first lady and I guess her husband was abusing children like little boys in the church and stuff like that and the whole church knew and some people were like why doesn't she leave and she was by side the whole time and I'm like there's no way she doesn't know too but then when I asked this pastor who came on I'm like why do they do that? Knowing what he's doing and they say some first ladies love the title more than anything else. They don't want to leave that alone. They'll stick by their husbands no matter what evil they're doing. I've seen it. You have? I've seen it. If you read your Bible you'd have seen it in chapter five of Acts because Analyzing Safari did the same thing. So I'm trying to understand why is it such a big whoa moment because usually that's what happens. So I'm just telling you because you gotta bring it back up. You really think of this stuff through the Bible. No but you gotta bring this stuff back up because we know that there's nothing new under the sun. That's true. But a lot of people do not study the Bible and don't know that these things came from back then. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know it because you know the Bible but a lot of people don't. Well at the end of the day and that's the problem so then because I know it I go to my real counselor while they go to a counselor to try to figure it out. That's what I'm telling you. So that was good. That was good. Pitched that over here. They don't go cause they don't know. It's just a lot of. You understand what I'm saying? So whatever. I'm cool with mine. I feel like a lot of people just put pastors in general in that God box, you know in that God place even some moms are guilty of putting that into their daughters like you want to marry a pastor. You know what I mean? Like bump who the man is or what he stands for or what he does behind closed doors you just serve that man period because he's a pastor. So I've seen so much of that and just growing up seeing it. I don't know if I just went that same route. I was kind of scared into that. That's another story. I saw the fear for the main fact that the way how you said that statement I figured that's what happened, you know? But then when you got in there you realized it wasn't all of that. No, it wasn't. But did that stop you or how did it affect you mentally though? Well it was mental abuse. I can tell you that right now. It was hard. Yeah. It was mental abuse cause he mesmerizing you with that word and that word is mesmerized. But you know you see in this other part and it's messing your head up. I ain't even that with you but I can just imagine. You know what I'm saying? Like you think that Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, you didn't know what you're looking at. No, no, no. Sorry, I'm just being real. This is what happened because a lot of times we looking at this and we know what really going on we trying to hide the elephant in the room. Ms. Psychologist, you know what I'm saying? And we trying to figure out ways not for people to see you know that I slipped your way. But when you, but has that traumatized you so much where that whenever you look at any pastor you think the same way about any pastor you see? I did when I first left. But I just allow God to heal me from that. So I, but I have not been back to church since then. Well, if you start being that you can definitely move on. You know what I'm saying? Being real. This is, this is what this is the biggest misconception. I had a cousin that was getting out of prison. He would broke down crying at the Walmart. I never forget it. He said, man, I just got to make it to the church. I'm like, what? Because in his mind, he felt like if he could make it there he would be okay. And this was almost probably, I want to say over 10 years ago now and he been trying to make it to the, he been in homeless shelters, churches. This is what he's done for the last 10 years because he's still in his mind think, if I could just make it to this one, if I could just make it to that one, if I could just make it to this one, I'm gonna be all right. But that's not the issue. The issue is totally surrender. I'm done, man. I'm not gonna keep doing this with y'all. But that's the thing I used to always say because then I know, I'm sorry that you were in that type of relationship but I know everything happens for a reason. I always tell everybody anything you go through don't be ashamed of it because it's gonna help somebody else through their situation. But it reminds me of half of this world who go to church and see a lot of hypocrites. And so they like, oh, I can't, I don't like this, I can't stand it. But that making them stop their relationship between them and God. Because what they're looking at is this man in here or this woman in here and looking at, oh, how can I be this because of them? Why are you looking at them? Why are you looking at him? You need to find that relationship with God yourself. You know what I mean? You shouldn't let, because of no human being give you that example because a lot of the time we talk to people and they're like, well, my pastor said, okay, what did the Bible say? They can't tell you what the Bible said themself but they go in and listen to this man who is not perfect, you know, who doing all sorts of stuff behind closed doors or manipulating the words because we've seen it so many times where we listen to pastors and when you have a relationship with the Bible and you hear how they use all these verses to come up with their own meaning just to make certain things make sense, justify certain things. But you know it's wrong but their congregation is following every single thing that they're saying because they don't know any better for themselves. You know what I mean? So when you see all of that, you're like, why don't you find, that's why COVID was a blessing and a curse because it made a lot of people who couldn't go to church had to find that relationship for themselves. Right. And at the end of the day, you know, you know, man, I mean, just saying his eyes is on the sparrow, let it go. You know what I'm saying? Yes. You know what I'm saying? A song will take you away. You guys got gifts, you know what I mean? Let your gift make room for you. You know what I'm saying? Keep doing what you're doing. Now, did you sing in gospel? I was. Now you sing R&B? Or do you rap? What's going on with your career? I'm tired of talking about y'all. Y'all were at this mill place because you a psychologist. He an attorney and she basically love talking, diving into the mill part. Me, I'm just over here, just don't go in on whatever. You let God move us to whatever discussion we need to say. He been moving us to do, I'm moving you right over into this song. Into this music. So you saying? I sing R&B. And do you rap or you don't? I'm not a rapper, but I can rap. Well, you need to rap too. That's my opinion. Get it done. Try it. Multi-talented. Get him to get you a beat and go, I mean, I got some raps on. I mean, I ain't got no raps. What I mean is, let me clarify, because I'm around some real rappers. I can rap on some of my songs. I have some. Yeah. Cause you gotta be able to interchange. Well, you know, in today's times, when they come down to these arts, because everybody's, when you think of Nicki Minaj or any of these people that's, you know, doing it, a lot of them can sing too. A lot of them sing and rap. A lot of them, you know, there's so much versatility in what you gotta do. So how do you end up on life ENT? So I got a call to record with DJ. It was a song he needed a female singer on. Dave got the song, listened to it, flew me out to Dallas from LA. Oh. That's when you got that money. Fly out to Dallas from LA. Hey, catch a flight, go talk about it. I see you tomorrow. I was living in LA at the time. And I came, did the video with DJ. And then I think a couple of weeks later, I ended up back in Dallas, moved there, moved here. Are we in Dallas now? Yes. We in Dallas. She's like, I don't know where I'm at. I know. And then that's how I got with life. Wow. I like it, man. And you, you get on life. She the only female you got on? Only. Trap soul. Well, and the reason, the reason is because you're gonna have to have a lot of makeup art. There's a lot of this. A woman is different. I tell him now. He's like, he's like, just one. I don't want no more. Just one. I tell him all the time, we expensive. It's different, it's different when you get ready to go do a video shoot or something. What? What I done got myself into. It's a lot easier for men. It is. Yeah, yeah. They show up and get on the mic and get them a few t-shirts and a few scenes and it's over. Damn, they got to have outfits the same. Everybody got to be on point. Nails. All that. Everybody on the squad. Yeah. And all the girls with me got to be right, too. That's right. So it's got to be on, you know what I'm saying? Man. So you, you, and so what did you see in this young lady to make you say, hey, man, I want to get you to be on life ENT. So let me go back a little bit. So the song would, I'm like, the song with DJ, I have been looking for a female vocalist for about three months. And everybody didn't get it. Okay. I'm talking about, I'm going far near and wide. They could sing, but it just wasn't vibing with what I was looking for, right? And I had, I couldn't explain it, but I knew what I was looking for if I heard it. So I had a contact at the time in LA and I was like, listen, I need somebody. I need a female that can go and get on this song. And when they got sent back, it's like, that's it. That's it. So I ain't trying to hear anything else. When can you come? We got to get this shot and recorded and blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it was really quick, but to answer the initial question, which was why, you can't, for someone just to drive what they're doing and hop on a plane, short notice and come, she doesn't know me at the time, right? So that tells me one thing, you're serious about your craft, right? Which in my opinion, once again, it's probably 90% of the deal with me because once again, it's plenty of talent. But all talent is not seriously equal, right? So that was number one. And then number two, you know, the industry type stuff, like, okay, you dance, you got to look, you know, all that type of stuff. But that really came secondary. Just the drive that in person because it's been times where I'm like, hey, I'm sending you the ticket. And it's like, man. Excuse us. My baby mama turned the ankle. Just tell me you don't want to come. You know what I'm saying? So that was it. That's all? Yeah. I like it. I can't wait to see the collab. I see the structure. And I know that in time, I'll be able to see the project start coming out. And I think that's what I'm most excited about. You know what I mean? Absolutely. I can't wait to see all you guys collabing and doing your thing. And I'm gonna be on the lookout, you know? And you know, just in case you didn't know it, I was in a video for that, about a couple of days. I didn't have a big scene. I just, it wasn't much, but I was in that thing. So I'd say, I'll be 300 and look kiki. What up, baby? All right. But I was in the video and I've been in a couple. Shout out to Rob, you know, I've been over that. Just saying, you know, call me and I'll pull up. And, you know, Boss Talk 101 will be in the building. Hey. You actually inspired a song that's gonna be titled, Boss Talk. Really? Wow. Man, you see that? Yeah. Little runny? Another one, Boss Talk. Man, we gotta get it. Hey, that's the South, man. We're excited about what our people are doing and the people that God has put in front of us. Yeah, we definitely love the fact of supporting the ones who we, you know, we don't just go deal with everybody. I probably would have never seen you if it weren't for this man, to be honest with you. But now that life ENT is a thing and I get to be a part of it, I can't wait to get my little chain. I do have a never satisfied chain just in case y'all want to get me one. I got a few pieces. I don't have to have that much, but just, I got you. I got you. I got you. Bring me a little piece over to let you know I'm affiliated with these guys. You know, life ENT. I can see it now. Yo, man. Hey, man, I'll be trippin' up. No, but definitely, man. So how can you get a hold of yourself? They're trying to reach out to you. I know we just took you to all types of situations spiritually. You probably gonna get in the car and cry. I done told them folks everything. I ain't supposed to tell them that. But at the end of the day, I think that's what people resonate with real. They'll be watching. This won't be your last time on it. And once you do your solo project, which I know is coming, here you go back on here again. People gonna get to know you. That's what it's a podcast is about that. People get to know the artist. This is a new format. They used to just have videos in the song and you didn't have enough money to do a lot of videos cause the budget was even bigger back then. But now people are not really understanding that when you do a project, you have to have media basis to display. And used to you could go to radio and that was cool. But I'm telling you right now, the bloggers and the podcasters, that thing is blowing up. Not even on just our side, the Joe Rogans and all the guillotine kids, the say cheese TV, the trio talk, no pill talks, the you know what I mean, the Big D moguls. These are places where you guys, when you do your media runs and stuff, you can't leave them out because the people are attached to them through all these different social media platforms. So how people gonna link up with you? Zara Music on Instagram is the best way to follow me. And it's Zara with an X. And you said there was a reason for that X. What is that reason? Go ahead and drop it. Thought you could go get away with it. Yo, it's a funny story. So I've been married twice, second divorce. Okay. Which one was the past or the first or second? First. Okay. And you tried it again after the fact. Go ahead. This is the third time it's a charm. You know, when I first got here, I said that. No, when I first got to Dallas, I told David I'm working on my third divorce. Who said this third time? Hold on, you're working on, what you mean you ain't working on your third divorce? Because people just don't be lasting. And the thing is, when I end up in relationships, I always end up married for whatever reason. Well, let me just say it. You know, you gonna come back. You know, I have another segment coming up. That's what that little section over there is for. I told you this. Let me tell you something. You were saying it, I was profiting when you were saying that to me. It's gonna be about relationships. And I'm gonna invite you back up. I told you this already. Yeah, so my friends nicknamed me ex because I have, like, I will ex somebody out my life. So they just started calling me ex. Yeah, and who told you the third time is a charm? Because I don't know about that. I ain't even gonna say I'm tired. It's like either be in a relationship or get married. I've just gotten married. No, I think you're doing it the right way. But at the end of the day, you're doing it the wrong way. You're doing it the right and the wrong way. But at the end of the day, that's life. True. Hold on, let's talk. We're not gonna talk about that part now. That's the least I've heard from my segment. Okay. Okay, push yo, push yo. I just, like I said, I really, really enjoyed this interview because it went somewhere I totally knew it would go. But I do have one more thing I'd like. If you wanted to leave a message with your fans, something positive, tell me, tell them what you'd like to leave with them. Something positive? Something positive. Just enjoy life in general. Says the lady who gets married all the time. Yeah, I mean, you gotta enjoy life. She definitely enjoyed life. You gotta, yeah, you gotta enjoy it. You know what I mean? Embrace it. Embrace all the negative, the positive, every single thing because you could be gone. Me neither. You know, you could not be able to experience life. That's the past your wife, y'all. I don't know who that other dude was, but that's the past your wife, right now. He might've been, you heard it, you heard it. He came out then, you know life is y'all, y'all, you gotta value it. Man, that's the most precious thing that we have that we have in our control. Man, oh man, and you, life ENT, can we find you on the internet somewhere? Where can we find it? On Instagram, same thing, life ENT, but it's just a period after L-I-F-E. Okay, you got a website or not yet? Yeah. Website? What is it? Life ENT. Dot com. Part, man. That's because that's what you want everybody to lend it. So many people now focus on building their own brand and building their own landing space. You need to make sure that's solid. Man, I go hard at this, man. Check it, man. It's done another great segment. A boss talk 101, what a boss is talking. Carry out.