 I think you've been reading anything recently that's interesting. This is super amusing because I'm pretty sure we talked about this like right before I went to sleep. And you're a little quiet, by the way. I don't know if you are that way for anyone else. Oh, you go to give him give him like an hour and he'll be back to normal because he's asleep. Oh, I don't know if I can take an hour. I'm very hard to really take it out of you. I I got like less than three hours of sleep. So I'm doing great. Hey, don't think of it as less than three hours of sleep. Think of it as you got more than two hours of sleep. Oh, man, more than two hours of sleep. So lucky. Splash water in your face. I'm splash some coffee. Take the mask off first, though. I don't want to splash the coffee in my face. That'll burn. I'm not. I want to do that. That is you'll be awake as fuck, though. Yeah, maybe that's why you're so sleepy is because you have a mask on and inside it's like it's like a blanket for your face. It's really comfy. So you're you're constantly just being tempted to fall asleep. Is it air-conditioned? No, but, you know, it doesn't need to be. It's it's that well designed. Nice. It is floral scented from what I understand. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, it's it's it's neat, but you're distracting me. So I just saw on Twitter a thread where a guy gets and says that he hates when people cite from soft games when talking about the idea of like difficulty modes, you know, like the whole subject of all games should have an easy mode. They said that it's. So he said that it's insulting to the games to cite them just like that for those arguments, which I find really weird because like I don't know why it would be insulting if this is the topic being discussed. You know, yeah, it's insulted because of the citation of Dark Souls. His he is annoyed when people cite like Dark Souls against the idea of putting in an easy mode in video games because he thinks it's an insult to those games. Like it's not. The idea being that you've you've misunderstood what made them special. But like, let's be real, Dark Souls is special because it's hard. Like, at least that's what everyone talks about. Yeah, that's why it's brought up all the time for this argument. So we briefly talked about it last night, which is why I find it amusing that this exists is. I think that the Souls games and a lot of difficult games have this sort of meta value where like if you find out that somebody else has beaten the game or accomplished something, there's a recognition of like the challenge there and that they did the same thing that you did. And that can be really cool as like a little meta experience. But moreover, like the fundamental answers to this question is like, oh, you know, it's up to the developers. It depends on what they want to do with the game. Easy mode is cool in certain things and other times. They don't want to do it. That's totally fine. Not all games are for everyone. Yep. Correct. And then I saw that this isn't meant for you thing. What's that, sir? This isn't meant for you. Well, yeah, but it's kind of like difficulty is a part of video games or at least the only medium that you can't there has to be difficulty. Yeah, it isn't passively. And you can't passively engage with most video games require some active level of involvement. Challenge is necessary. Even if that challenge is minimal, there has to be some kind of a challenge there. It has to exist in some form and also it's not interactive. If it's impossible to fail, I don't see how it could be a game. Yeah, I thought about that. But I'm not sure where I sit at, whereas like what it like, if it's possible for there to be a video game that you can't fail. I don't know what you mean. Like there's a series of platforms. But if you miss any of them, you just go back to doing the plan when you don't die, you don't lose any progress necessary. Well, I guess you still do that. That comes into what is it to have a fail state, right? Yeah, I would say that fail state if you're set back. But but I don't know what a game looks like without one. So the only thing I've heard is regards to difficulty really or argument wise is journalists complaining that they've got too many games. We've got too many games to review. So we need an easy mode so we can smash through them. Well, I guess that's absolutely pathetic. Well, I'd say the super awkward part is that when you play a game, I'm like, like, if you played Halo on on like the lowest difficulty and then you give me a review, I'm not sure that's worth much to me. It's not because that's how I'm going to play the game. But it's not about it's not about difficulty or time. It's about being first. Well, that's the only thing it's about. You know, you're angry, Joe. He'll wait, you know, whether you like him or don't, you know, he'll put his review out two, three weeks, sometimes longer after the game is out and he'll still get millions of views on it. Because it's the credibility, but these journalists have no credibility. So it's just about being first. So they have to moan and complain about difficulty levels because they're too busy writing about Orange Man bad. It really feels as well as though we've been a way better world if more journalists were less concerned with covering everything and more concerned with covering the things that they're passionate about. And they know their shit about. And then if everyone split up into like, hey, I don't know anything about Metroid and then, you know, Gary in the office like, oh, I love Metroid. I'll do that one then. Hey, OK, yeah, Gary, I'll do that one. Yeah, it was like we're hiring people based on their skill sets like sports, RPGs, action, adventure, able to complete a game. Yeah, yeah. Well, you could. I mean, we just but you could look at things like your your trophy levels. You could look at your achievement levels and have that as part of your your CV, your curricular V time or your over it's coming out of the places like. Where's the May? There is, you know, it's your property. Is I guess the problem with this whole topic is that I feel like solidly concluding. That all games should have easy mode is like we're missing something here. You know, like doesn't it make you wonder as well? Like isn't difficulty a little bit relative to the point where whatever easy mode they implement, someone could be like, I need an easy mode compared to this mode. This mode is too loud for me even. I guess the the problem is like once you start getting to like invincibility, how far can you go with that? You literally just press play the game just plays. You're like, ah, my goodness. I mean, like this, like this, the games that now implement this auto battle feature, we just hold down the button and it doesn't fighting for you. The game is definitely cried at this. And I think the the recent near game that I played, I think that one has an auto battle feature on the easiest mode. A lot of mobile games have that feature. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, if you can pay for it, probably battle. Yeah. Oh, cool. Thanks. Remember video games? I mean, there's already people complaining that they're getting too cinematic now and they're just essentially turning into movies. You know, if you took all the cutscenes out of the last transgender of us, then how much of an actual game do you have? It's it's it's a lot of backtracking that game. There's a lot of backtracking still gameplay. I would take that over, you know, a lot of shit you can get for these days in terms of really, really like if we're going to go bargain barrel bin things like like mobile games can get so much worse where you just literally like repeating mechanics over and over and over again, but they change the skin because they paid like one artist to just keep, you know, chaining out different things that look different slightly. But then it's all like, you can skip all of this, you pay more money. It's just like, is this even a game anymore? I don't know. Nothing else on mobile games is they just start here and have a five here because you download the game, you get like five levels. Oh, so everybody does that. So I'm still level one, like who you fooling? Didn't Final Fantasy seven start at level seven? Didn't you start at level seven in Final Fantasy seven? Could be, could be, which is also weird, I guess. I don't know. I have a mobile specifically. They say like, oh, here is your reward for downloading the game. Oh, no, you're level five high five. Oh, good. Did it. No one's ever been level one, two, three or four in the history of this game. Before I was going to say that we get started, it's probably worth us just doing a little blip about Loki. Everyone's asking about Loki. That's not what this e-fap's about, but I know that it just finished. And it's it's so good. OK, let's move on. Well, four of us have seen it. Rags is not. So I'll take the opportunity to you were lucky bastard. Well, I was going to say, I'm sure you guys all agree, it'll take me what, like 10 seconds to cash rags up with the one episode of the events of the single episode. I guess, yeah, yeah. Well, nothing happened in the episode. Yeah, they, um, they walk into the spooky house at the gas cloud. There's a man named Kang in there. He basically did all of the stuff that we were told by the cartoon in episode one and they kill him. And so the multiverse has now been born. Oh. And it's confirmed that as of killing him, they have now released free will into the world. Hmm. There was no free will before then. Yeah. Wow. Well, I'm so sorry. It's fucking that's fucking horrific and disastrous to the MCU. But OK. Yeah. And there's these that I loved. There's these weird fucking tweets that are like Loki, the show actually leads into Spider-Man, No Way Home, Doctor Strange 2, as well as several other Marvel properties. Get excited. Wow. No, no, no, no, just like this. Kang, the Conqueror will return. If watching six episodes of this show had actually yielded something, but it didn't, it basically was six episodes. Say, go watch something else. By the way, I guess I will talk about we'll talk about all of this in a week and a half time. That's that's Loki's time. All right, Black Widow still hasn't been addressed until the end of this week. OK, there's so much to talk about, but we'll say they presented a choice, Rags. They're told they can spare him and everything can continue as it has been, but they will be in control of what events happen, you know, what choices are made, blah, blah, blah. Or they can kill, of course, would. Loki would turn down that power. Oh, absolutely. Turn that down. Yeah, he wouldn't want that. The other option is kill him and you make the sacred timeline just born of a zillion different threads and you have millions of different Kang's inside them. And one of them will become evil and try and oh, well, they'll all fight each other is what he says. There'll be an all out timeline war, much like the. I was a real timeline war. There's no explanation for any of this. You just have to sort of go with it. Oh, because the Kang's all met up. And they got angry and went, I like you, but I don't like you. Yes, some of them were even Kang's bad guys. Yeah. Oh, and so he basically says if you kill me, why did he want to kill himself? Well, he's it's so weird because he's like tired, I guess. And then he was playing the door as to why he wanted to stop. Yeah, because he reckons that if you kill him, it'll all release all the evil Kang's. And then one of them will be victorious and it'll one of that one will create the sacred timeline again and we'll just be back to square one. So he says that that's you get choice. He'll choice be awesome. Yeah, kill him and have this huge war and one of the Kang's will just fuck everything up and restart what we already had or take over and do what you want with the sacred timeline. And there's like no discussion about this. Sylvie just is immediately like, kill him, kill him, kill him, kill him. It's like, oh, and then she and Loki have have a mini boss fight because Loki is you might think Loki advocates for taking over. Right. But no, Loki advocates for the insane position of maybe we should talk about these options. Maybe we should discuss this. Sylvie is not having that because she's a very frustrating character. Yeah, she she's not allowed to have a thought in that scene because we have to push the plot along. It's like Loki is like, okay, this is might be a bit bigger than us up to our experience. We might want to consider if there's this real noise. A liar. He's just like, what are you doing? Well, I've seen people are totally like it's totally alive with the character. She hates the TVA. It's like this is well beyond that. This is beyond everything now. You literally got the keys to the kingdom of reality and she's like, I'm mad because you were mean to me when I was a kid. I'm like, yeah, that's fine. I know. But like we've just addressed like space and time being controlled off fingertips. But that would also mean that he was controlling Sylvie throughout all of her life as well. All her decisions were his. How do they have the free will to defy him? Why would he have the sacred time? No, he said that I built this road for you to come down. Yeah, he says that everything up until like about that scene was planned and then like halfway through that scene. He's like, oh, now we're like we got free will break. Like, I don't know what's going to happen now. Yeah, we went. Oh, wow. That's how horribly inconvenient. It's so cool. We finally get to see a scene in the MCU where characters get to make choices candidly. It's amazing. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. They don't have some idiot at the end of the timeline telling them what they can and cannot do. It's like he has done wonders for my end game video. Well, yeah. Yeah, it's now it's no longer Tony Stark's terrible idea to save his daughter. No, it's actually Kang. It's Kang that made a terrible decision yet to cock up the whole of the MCU end game and it's not caps decision to stay with Carter. No, no, he wanted he was actually thinking I need to come back home be a hero, but Kang was like, no, you got to get I read this to the other guys yesterday to sort of highlight how wrong everything went in. Loki got worse from got worse from just this point. So I have this bit in the scripts where I basically explain why I'm not going to talk about Loki in this video because it's not that should this show sucks. I think I think I wrote this is what I first wrote. If I had to account for everything Loki introduces, I'd have to preface every statement with if things hadn't gone this way, the Avengers would have been melted by fascist space lizards. Nice simple. This is what I now have to say. I'd have to preface every statement with if things hadn't gone this way, the Avengers would have been sent to the end of time by Kang the conqueror space fascist lizard front organizations be consumed by a purple dragon cloud in order to preserve the sacred timeline from becoming a massive branches, which will inevitably go to war with one another and destroy the multiverse. So yeah, that's the first couple times like the first three or four times you should do that just to drive the point home and then say, I think you guys get the point. I don't have to say this anymore, but you should do it. You should do it a couple of times. Yeah, I probably will do it. Maybe cut yourself off on the third one. Like, all right. Yeah, it's completely irrelevant that the MCU tried to backtrack on Loki by saying, oh, he was actually being controlled by the Mind Stone because he wasn't because Thanos was controlled by kind of by Kang. So it's all great. So nobody was all Kang, Kang, Kang was every going controlled by every what Kang. Yeah. Well, so this is the funny thing, right? There's no free will up and one scene in this episode, nothing in the MCU has been free will. The way it's like devs. Yeah, I know the way that they have implied it works is the Kang is just overseeing the trillion trillion options for everyone to do everything ever and he picks out what he wants. He's like, I want this. I want that person to say this. I want that person to do this. It's like, wow. Cool. You know, it's funny. It's like if James going comes out with Guardians 3 and in interviews and stuff like, oh, it's a great movie. And it's like, you know, when, you know, when Star Lord died to say blah, blah, blah, it's like, did you think about like how this is the first meaningful choice he's ever made in his life in a way? And he's like, what? And they're like, well, because obviously this is after Kang was defeated by Loki and the timelines of all and you could just see his face drop. I like how the movies have become the comic books now. It's just this insane tangled web of cause and effect and timeline and. Well, you guys have said that, right? As they're becoming more and more like the comics currently now as well. Well, no, because the comic, the comics are just all women. We're getting there. We're getting there. Come on. Yeah, we are. We're getting we're getting there. We are just going to kill a few more guys. It is it is more like the comics in as much as all they're doing now is sitting and talking and drinking and talking and eating and talking and standing and talking. Wow. There's a lot of all the incredible action scenes. What do you mean? You mean the one how much action was there in this episode? I think it lasted. About a minute and a half. If you think about it, it's the only way they could have an action scene and it was contrived as fuck, but they had to because you can't not have an action scene. And the action scene ended by Loki saying, I just want you to be okay. They kiss Rex. They kiss Bill. All right, that's great. He always was the romantic. No, she is him. He doesn't kiss her. She kisses him. Oh, but he's not. He's not pushing back. No, but he's emails not allowed to initiate a kiss anymore. Otherwise it's rape. I have a question. Yeah, my question is and that we can discuss it at length or not at all. If you'd like, do you think they purposefully released Black Widow before the end of Loki for fear that the end of Loki and its reveal about free will and all that stuff would nullify to a degree the events of what happens in Black Widow. I feel like I was thinking for them like it was a very cold calculus for when would be the best time to release these things. I don't know that they did it with Mandalorian and Rise of Skywalker like almost the exact same way too. So I just wonder if that's just apparently the way to do it numbers wise. That's just that's just the way to do it. Seems like they try and line things up so that when something ends, there's something new for people to move on to the next thing because the formula is very clearly now not about getting answers or conclusions. It's always about what's next. What's the next thing to cream your pants over. Well, this is a whole series about what's next. Yeah, it's all big series. The series is absolutely big. And it's funny you say that I put out a tweet saying something similar and someone responded saying it's just funny how people are pretending as though that hasn't been comic book movies this whole time baiting the next thing. And I feel like people have been so poisoned right now by the current set. They don't remember that stories used to end. Yeah, yeah, you can make up. That's normally set up in like the post-credits scene. This is a whole series of set up and each film had its own, you know, unique individual story, whether or not you'd like to or not, you know, irrelevant, but it had its own unique story that it told the Falcon and the Winter Soldier told its own story about Bucky and Steve. Iron Man told its own story about the development of Tony Stark and, you know, it's the end credit scenes that have the little bit of a, oh, by the way, I'm Mr. Man and I'm going to meet you in the next film. So it almost felt like the movie equivalent of I make more videos on my channel that you can check about if you want. They'll be over here. But nowadays it's you didn't care about what you just saw. You care about this. Look at the look of that. Yeah, I got PewDiePie cameo in my next video. We're going to nullify everything that came before it, but now it really matters. So keep watching. Yeah. And it seems like the bait is the content on the rest of it. It's just kind of like, it's fine. Just fill the time. I guess that's the problem. It feels like especially this phase that it's really about what's next. Like it wasn't really about WandaVision. It's about like Doctor Strange and Loki's not really about Loki. It's about Doctor Strange and Falcon and Winter Soldier is about maybe like Secret Invasion or the next Captain America movie. Underbolts, yeah. Like, yeah, and Black Widow is about Hawkeye and like Yelena becoming a thing. Like that's what these things are. They're not and then when Doctor Strange comes out, that'll be about something else. We'll soon find out. That'll be about like at least once or whatever it is. Yeah, exactly. We wouldn't feel this way if each of these stories was really crafted with a lot of care and they were written well and they didn't just take a crap over everything that came beforehand. But as it seems, pretty much everything that's come out after Infinity War, with the exception of Far From Home, has just been unminigated disaster. It's not even like Loki came out of this being like, I'm Loki. I'm a fucking villain. I'm a bad guy. You know, I'm going to mess up the whole timeline. I'm going to create the multiverse and let chaos ensue. It's just that he was a crying fucking baby. The whole series just crying and following Sylvie and crying and trying to tell Sylvie that he's on his period and he loves her and then he crying and crying like three times in this episode. And it's funny because we were just yesterday talking about how Natasha doesn't really make any decisions herself in Black Widow. She's tossed around the plotline by other characters and Loki's the same thing. Yeah, he's cross extremely. He he's not like he was two hours ago when he was stabbing people in invading cities and just being a big old dick that you were afraid of who was super clever. And this show, he is insanely depowered. He is very he's just not. I'm not afraid of him. I'm not concerned for him. I'm not in any way just worried about this character. I don't even think that he could be my enemy. He's heading actually. I'm pretty sure you could just kick his head and he would cry. Well, I know I could kill the TVA because I have a gun that shoots bullets. They've got glow sticks. Yeah, watch out. Yeah, it's like we've got batons. It's okay. But what if someone breaks a sacred timeline who has like a gun or a stick that's a little longer than yours? I want to see the time where they have to correct a caveman and he just fucking wails on them with his stick and they just don't do anything. Creepy alien. Oh, scary painted lady with glow stick. You die. Pixar by her foot drags her through the pulse using her as a club to hit everyone else in the TVA. Such ball of bullshit. And yeah, that's that's just the current state. We will talk in depth about the law. But today we have different plans. All right. I'm going to switch us switch our gears. Okay. That was a little teaser. That was a the event. The e-fappers will return in the next episode to talk about how bad the MCU is. You guys, you've got some jangling keys. So stuff things things happened in the course of last week that made me decide to to collect a whole bunch of things and put y'all on a journey. Now, Matt will knows a little bit and as out of all of us knows the most about what I'm going to do to all of you. But Fringian Rags and I as a co-host know the least. My two co-hosts know the littlest about all of this because it's I don't know what the hell's going on. Nope. So we will start with us now. I had to be paid to be here. This there is someone who was recommended to us through super chats a couple of times actually and they they popped up in my recommended. I think all they were in discord and I was like, I'll give it a shot. So we're going to stop. Yes, we can start his own YouTube channel after the multiverse happened. Hitler's just back. He's like, hey, yeah, checking it out. Now that I'm I'm free. I love juice. I think that great. I am so gutted that Kang made me do that in my heart of hearts. I love the juices entire time. Now I can be free. I've read some history books and I'm going to buy some oceanfront property in Israel. I'm a good man. I will leave amongst them. And then I will come on him with free Palestine on some shit. He's very anti-Palestine. Yeah, I hate the Palestinians. I got to burn it. Go to one is Israel is the land of the Jews, as I've always said, as I was wanted to say. It's my mantra. Keeps his Twitter open to see if he's getting banned. So you can call me the Hebrew hammer. The description will keep getting up updated with links. So the links to everything we cover today will be in the description. You just have to refresh if you want the current one. First thing we're doing is checking out a channel called Madvocat. He responded to a high tops video on Wonder Woman, which we did check out back in the day. I was just going to say we're going to have a little look first one or eighty four eighty four. Oh, the real it. They're really bad one. They're really bad. They're both really bad. Yeah. Fantastic. They're being mad at someone's. That was sort of our first for they can do. Well, it wasn't our first for a but. It it felt very marvely. Hmm. What what now? Wonder Woman eighty four. I mean, it felt marvelling. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I don't think so at all. I think it was like just. I like how the Jenkins doesn't know how to write. No, I think all the wishes and all that sort of stuff. I think it very marvely. I don't I don't think it felt like I don't really know. I'm I'm confused. What? What? What is it? Like what in Marvel made you? What do you see Marvel? Marvel is like a multicolored sludge, if you will. It is a it's like when you go when you go to an ice cream parlor and they have all of the the tubs, right, that are open on the other side of the counter and you're looking at them and they're just all a big different mix of stuff. And then there's that one and it's it's got all the different colors and it's all just just whatever. That's what Marvel is now. It's a multicolored it's a it's a it's a confectionary multicolored sludgy ice cream color. It's like bubblegum, watermelon, chocolate chip, fudge sundae slash cookie cookies and cream, cookie dough, Oreos, and it's got sprinkles on it with caramel and you're just like, Oh my God, what is this? What? Oh my God, what is this? And that's what it felt like to me. You seem like Wonder Woman 84 is like the movie that represents Phase Four of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in a way or it almost felt like a strange harbinger for it. Hmm. Well, we're doing everyone on the planet gets to make a wish and it's going to end exactly how she needs a man. She needs a man. She did, which a lot of people criticize Patty Jenkins for actually. Yeah, because. Heterosexuality is awful. Oh, this is here's the thing is awful. Right. She remembers something that happened in a previous installment and she tries to get it back and then everyone hates her for it. So boom, harbinger for Marvel, where we just take a dump on everything that came before because we learned our lesson. Well, you know what happens? That's what happens. The whole everybody gets their wishes thing that does kind of feel like the writing team for Marvel now. It's like everyone just gets to do whatever the fuck they want. Okay. As long as you fill some boxes. Yeah, I'm Diana's wish. I wish Steve Trevor came back in a different man's body so I could rape him. No, no, you have what Marvel? What what what Marvel? What Moller just said. Moller said in what one of Roman 84 fuck it. Everyone can just do what they want now. Literally, that's how Loki ends. Fuck it. Everyone could just do what they want now pretty much. It's it's basically it's like poetry. It's right. Yeah, you're right in terms of certainly from the matter because if you're if you're like I want to write a Marvel film with, you know, an elephant cast spells in the middle of the dark abyss of the underworld. Just like fuck it. Go for it. The multi business unlocked. You could do every one. Oh, yeah, it used to be. Well, I got to clear it with Kang, but no, no, no, no, go for it. It's it's your wit. The world is your oyster now. Well, wish it make it happen. Don't let your memes be dreams. Believe to achieve to be of you thought that the world was like that, but it wasn't. But now it is being a clearing things with Kang. Imagine he was in charge of the fucking D.C.U. And you have one to be like, I would like to bring him back in a different body to rape. Cag is like, you know, that's a really weird fucking choice that I don't usually have to deal with these, but okay. He probably went, I'm not going to kink shame. Yeah, you know, and let's just, you know, we know that it's 60 percent of women do fantasize about rape. So, okay. Normally it's the other way round, but in this case, and you know what, let it pass. It worked out in a way. I know, you know, they fixed it all up. They were like, hey, the truth is beautiful. That was such a. I was really hoping at the end of Wonder Woman though when she was speaking to him and she's like looking at him like, I've just raped you and you've got no idea. He would just turn around and go, it's going to be a great year also. And he just turned around and went, yeah, my boyfriend and I are really looking forward to it. And she's just like, oh, shit. What if you turn around and he was like, I know. I know what you did. He's got a tear in his eye. He's got just one tear coming down his face. I know what you did, hero. I know. Yeah. Think of the newspapers. He just walks off, just walks off slowly. Doesn't say a word after that. It'd be a tough life if he watches all of the news reports of how she saved the world. He's like, yeah, she did. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. He's on like, Wendy. What's the name on TV? Wonder Woman raped me. He's like a little interview morning program. It's like, I have to reveal the truth. She raped me. You couldn't have a boyfriend back because he blew up 50 years ago. She decided to stick him in me. He was inside me and he was inside of her. My horror story. He's got a book for it as well. Yeah, he's pushing his book. Wonder Woman and me, a rape story. The truth behind the wonderful. Logical plot are quite wonderful. Oh, yeah. That's anyway. Oh, okay. This time of Sarasaga. I should probably, I'll roll him back and this video starts straight away. Okay. You don't, there's no like, whoo. You know, there's been a lot. Okay. Okay. There's no point in being mad at someone's emotional response to the art they consumed. That's stupid. But I also can't be mad. I ain't mad at all. I'm the opposite of mad. Are you sure about that? So we are here. Why the anger and hostility dude? I'm always rewriting anything video. I remember this is on Twitter. I can't remember who was responding to though. Yeah. I think he was just shitting on response videos. Oh yeah. Do you remember he said don't say shit? Like, do you not prefer read and redraft to a fellow writer? If you want to have people who support your work? That was such a bad look. That's a good meme. We made a good meme out of that. Man. You were. Yeah. There's for reference as we don't know he basically people were like, I think someone's cause like a word was gotten wrong or some delivery was wrong. They were just like worth redraft in a script. You know, and he was like, don't say that to a fellow writer. If you want support in the future. Okay. It's time to redraft you freak. Oh, it's like dab. Okay. Shit, man. You know, you know, you'll regret that decision in future. It just felt like you'll never work in this town again, kid. That sort of thing. So that guy's just a wonder one. High Top is absolutely right. All memeing aside. So right off the bat, this is not a rant on his opinions, but rather me questioning his standards and some contradictory statements. He makes how he described certain moments feels cherry picked if you will. It seems like it's already had things pretty good. Yeah, I dig it. Yeah. The movie presented or intended and then ignored most of the execution. This response is not going to be in chronological order because the claim he makes at the end needs to be addressed first. And then I can briefly explore why it's nonsense by using some of the scenes he brings up in his video. There are some things to make clear before getting started. If you think hating on art with an attitude of superiority is easy, tough luck, but so is praising it. There is a channel that has almost 2 million subscribers from doing this. Yeah, there was a high top has an attitude of like, you know, it's so much harder to be like nice to art to praise it. It's like, no, there's plenty of opportunities people have to just praise art. Maybe he's talking like, especially these days because everything is shit. See, that would be our position. Yeah, I know. Maybe that's what he was saying. But like anything. It's like, yeah, because everything's shit. Yeah. What was it? The label is toxic positivity where it's just like people who get aggressive when you're not positive. They're like, fuck you. This is good. You're like, oh, damn. Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. Yeah. Cinema wins has got a whole career basically just saying things are good and his arguments are, you know, they're there. Pretend for a while to do that. It's what you wanted and see how you feel. Oh, no, there it is. There it is. There is our boy. Have you seen that before as we see that argument? Yeah, critical drink. It seems to use that a lot. Yeah, pretend, you know, just pretend for a watch through whatever watch through us what you wanted. Yeah, you feel this is in regards to the Emperor being alive by the way, you can't you can't pretend. That's not how it works. You don't go. No. Okay, I'm going to like low key. I mean, I'm going to go pretend I low key of this. I know it's not how it operates. Yeah, that's that's skipping to the end step. It's worth it. It's worth it. Try by watching it and then letting the content that we've watched actually formulate how we feel. Isn't that how stuff? Absolutely. But the thing is, when you're defending something like Rise of Skywalker, maybe you pull this out because what else are you going to do? You're like, you know what? Maybe you just change yourself fundamentally. Then you'll enjoy Rise of Skywalker. Yeah, maybe if you just pretended you're a completely different person with different thoughts and beliefs, you'd like it, which is an argument. Yeah, especially you tend not to feel the way that they did. Such an amazing argument. It's what you wanted and see how you feel. Negative criticism. I think I think Green could just edit in his video in there to put that in. Oh, I can't remember which one he cited. But like, yeah, everybody should be aware that someone made that argument on the Internet. It's such an amazing one. You can apply it to everything ever. What? Someone just like Loki. I like it. Yeah, of course, this tweet though, speaking from experience is much easier to hate on art with an attitude of superiority than it is to empathize with art from a place of understanding. That fun doing the form would have this argument for Hitler. And he ends up saying criticize from love as if like it's up to him whether or not you've done that. He will decide you'll listen to him be like you didn't for example, all of my hatred for Loki. Do you really think it comes from the fact that I just want to hate stuff? Or do you think maybe it destroys everything I was invested in in the MCU up till now? It's like, yeah. Ding dong. Which one? I don't know. The point of desperation as in we're desperate to save films from descending into horrific madness. But it could be as simple as somebody saying I paid to watch this. Yeah, and I don't feel as if I got my money's worth. I feel as if I got ugly. Which was in a way we've we skipped over another truth, which is like, I'm sorry. If someone really hated the message in something, they just hated it. They just thought, oh, fuck this message. This is terrible. It's like what they're not like it's too easy to hate it that way. You should empathize. Look, I'm saying this because I know exactly what he's talking about. Right. I'm assuming you guys do as well. He's talking about the rape. He he believes you should empathize with the fact that Patty Jenkins was not trying to portray rape. So stop saying she did. It's just so easy to do that. Well, yeah, it is easy to look at rape and say that's right. Yeah, that's that's difficult not to. Yeah. Well, the thing high top is an interesting creator. He has some ideas that it is. They just don't survive scrutiny at all. It's not a superiority thing because it was literally as soon as the film happened, there were loads of us. There was my I needed myself. That was Gary. I think it was drinker. There was loads. Do you think is he self as well? But immediately we're just like she just raped a guy. If it's really gross, you know, or you've got movies recording the set of us see she like turns over in a bed and sees them. We all go. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. And we you think of all the things in life that you wouldn't apply this line of reasoning to like, oh, I didn't mean to run over that pedestrian. Please empathize with my intentions. Please please. Yeah, please empathize with my intention to just go to the grocery store. We'll just put Steve and Steve Rogers in the fucking film then because that's what she wish for. Yeah, I know that's the thing that's so strange about it is we talked about it at length during the movie when we're watching it. What an extremely bizarre creative decision to do this logical roundabout to give her Steve Rogers in a weird fozzi form for her to have. What a bizarre creative decision of all the things he could have just appeared. But that would have been too easy. I've been criticizing Wanda vision because of the fact that she mind controlled a town full of people. Yeah. What is the difference between her mind controlling a town full of people and being rightfully criticized for doing it being called a villain and this man having his life taken over and not being in control of his life because Steve Rogers is now is now existing in his form and doing his life for him. I you know it's it's like I when I think about that movie and like that particular plot point I still find it really bizarre like I can't believe that like a $200 million big budget like massive film and like it how how how did now this get the thumbs up and remember she retweeted someone defending her yeah for this so was like well clearly a commentary on like 90s movies approaching the subject awkwardly body swap stuff and she was like yep that was it yep mm-hmm yep that was it. In the body so like freaky Friday that was mother and daughter they were aware of each other's body swap. Well so that's the thing she not only in big is just broke. She's desperate for a defense for a movie because she doesn't have one but she's also shitting on all these other movies because she's like trying to bring them down with who's she did a lot worse. She was giving full freedom and as soon as this movie released and everyone's reacting to it I remember there's an article that was like one woman three will not be as crazy as this we are going to we're going to bring it back down we're not going to be doing this crazy shit again. I guarantee you she would have as much freedom next time. Well yeah because like I'm pretty sure it's just knowing that 1984 is considered shit by a lot of people like a lot of people think that may be shit. It was bizarre to find out that Alex loved it. It's going to age like come. Meaning high top by the way high top was like I was so fucking good and I was like really but for reference by the way he thought the black widow was kind of meh. The reason why he thought it was good is because it was a creative vision and that's all he cares about is like was there a creative vision here. It doesn't matter if it was like bizarre or awful or like kind of but it does matters a lot because it impacts the story and it impacts the moral core of the character. Well yeah I mean as far as I'm concerned like it's vision we can talk about. She was seeing the man. We the we were only seeing Steve for the audience's benefit. Yeah. Him all the time. She was seeing him. So I I don't know if I because for me when I watched it I thought that the mirror reflection was just I thought that she saw the guy but she knew that it was Steve Steve. Yes. Yeah. I think that's it. Yeah because we got confused on that when we were watching it we weren't sure what the movie wanted us to think exactly. Yeah the guy was there. That's why she was acting all weird when he was falling around. Yeah. So he it's Steve in the guy's body so that the guy with the dark hair because he's one let's say handsome man I think he's handsome man is the physical form of this this entity. Yes. So even though we see Steve it's just purely for our benefit because we're you know silly for so we can have the actor again instead of just having the character and then everyone says why don't just have Steve in the narrative. Why don't why don't you just have it be Steve. Yeah because why don't you just say one minute I was in the plane and I saw a light and I went to the light and I felt good and then the next moment I'm in an alleyway in downtown you know San Francisco over it's being said he could literally evaporate it anywhere. Yeah because it's the fucking wish stone doesn't matter it's like you don't have to pretty sure that at that point we're like oh so it's like a monkey paw thing like someone else. Yep we thought so he comes back but nope you can just do fucking whatever you want and they mentioned the monkey's paw in the film but they don't know how the monkey's paw works. Oh right yeah yeah. Anyway it's bizarre that he did it this way. It's a bizarre film. Yes it's a really bizarre film. Guaranteed to come from hate either nitpicks are inconsequential. There's no internal consistency versus emotional resonance debate. It's internal consistency and emotional resonance versus emotional resonance. One is not a counterbalance to the other. Both can and have been achieved many times being a fantasy sci-fi or comic book movie that had good intentions with heart. He laughs a little like that. So the sincerity put into it is not a get out of jail free card. And I think he's completely right just because you've got heart does not mean you're suddenly you know like immune to criticism of plot holes and stuff. We're other projects. We're really hard to have their heart and to make sense just because you were like I have heart too. It's like that's cute. You look like a horrible mutant and you're trying to get into the club stop it. That's what that's what we're discussing there. We're discussing the the the sense of it. Absolutely to have the man and Steve we're discussing the sense of that. So you know we're all we'd say we'd all be happy. I think I can speak with everyone here that if Steve just turned up Steve just turned up because of the wish. Yeah the film just yeah it just works so much better. There's nothing they lose like I yeah. Plenty of my joy that there's fitting visuals on what he's crazy. I'm so happy. It's nice. It's really nice. Get out of jail free card plenty have solid plots or establish rules and stick to those rules even fictional ones take all of this into account and that is how I'm currently invested in discussing movie and TV quality. So none of this bullshit about how people who use this method of criticism just don't care. Why are you not a boring objective robot that points out every continuity era because I care. Because I could because we don't we don't care about internal consistency in plot. If you could if you care about plot holes you don't care was lame. Yeah you don't care about them but if you don't care about them you do care. It's very complicated. It's just funny. I just find it I just don't think it's impressive to to be like you know what I ignored all of how it was constructed. I just I went for what the person was going for. It's like yeah that's really easy as far as I'm gonna say we try to avoid doing that. It's even worse when you when you go out of your way to say this then make videos that terribly with terrible arguments then when I talk to some of my friends they're like yeah just watch the movies and we're fine. I know that's like shit happening but yeah but they don't talk about it on the internet to everyone before I want to see like yeah this was fun. That's all right and then they move on with their life like. Mellie sounds like you don't care. I really don't. I could tell you don't care by how much you care. Yeah because I care. So what is the statement. Mr. Films makes that prompted this response. Roll the clip nothing about the plot makes sense. Wait hold on that can't be right. So that is a clip from his review of Teen Titans possibly I can't remember exactly what show is. Let me guess that one didn't have vision in the heart so he didn't like it. Well so that's the thing because high top is ripping into it for its nonsensical plot line. It's like oh wait that's not very consistent. Not very nice of him. You know appreciate in the heart. But yeah I don't care about that movie. I think it's a show right. I don't actually know the show. Yeah yeah yeah. I thought he was pretty good until the finale finale was terrible. It'd be generous to call this a plot. No not that one. Ah here it is. Movies aren't about logic and plot. That's why I almost never talk about those things. They are about emotion. Whoa okay. They're about emotion and feeling. As he shows this. That feels redundant by the way. Yeah the same thing emotion and feeling of the same thing. And well no. I guess I guess you could you could separate them out. You could be like discussing emotions and then discussing the event of feeling for yourself. Definitely related. But it feels like you when writing that you'd want to make sure you explain maybe use words that better represent the distinction you're making between these two topics. Because emotion and feeling. This is classic high talk where he's very specific and he wants to cover all of his bases and he really wants to make for a solid airtight argument. So I can I can appreciate that level of semi redundancy but clarification all the same. This is his short film The Jam Salesman. The Jam Salesman. The horror. Yeah. Oh man. They are never entirely about the logic. They are never entirely about the plot. Those two things are. I like that he's the images like used to give you a feeling to evoke a reaction from you. They are needed to support that reaction to support the characters. So don't you feel like he just destroyed his his entire position by accident there. Uh-huh. Just said that we like it's not about the plot. The plot is there to support the emotional reaction. Hmm. Uh-huh. No. They are not what art is about. No one is saying that movies are only about logic and plots. Everyone wants to experience the intended emotional take away in movies. Yeah. And that's honestly just like a thing you have to I guess remind people is like anybody who's reviewing this shit. It's like you do get the we're chasing the high. Everyone wants to yeah we enjoy movies. We enjoy them like let's get another one a new one and then it's shit and you're like oh yeah. But my brain yeah but I'm not a seven year old and I know when I'm being fooled and I don't want to be fooled. I'm not going like if I'm not sitting my ass in front of David Copperfield I I don't want to be fooled. All right. I know I'm being tricked. Yeah. I know I'm being tricked. It's cheap. We're fucking harder. But instead of just being like but it wasn't rape. You're like but you showed rape. But yeah exactly you showed the thing. My brain and I reconcile these two things. But yeah they're not exclusive. You can have both. Absolutely. Well so this is the problem. They for some reason believe that if you put logic in the heart goes out. It's like right. So what about Empire Strikes Back? Maybe High Top's hot take is that that film is full of plot holes. The silence. I mean who knows. It's got the logic of it. It's got the logic of the film you know based around the universe it's got the emotion. Resonating through multiple different characters. I feel like the different character development. Like the best movies have that they give you the huge emotional payoffs and they worked really hard to have a plot line that earns them and character motivations and values and all that. But for some reason they're getting dichotomized. Another great one Ghostbusters is another great one. That's a comedy. People pretend as if I don't know how this happened or where it got started. Maybe it's always been a thing. It's probably always been a thing where people assume that brains don't we we they're just information absorbing machines. We have to see things and hear things and experience things in order to react to them. We have to see stuff and we have to connect dots with what we're shown either visually or in another way. That's how we experience our emotions. Yeah. Yeah but you do have the suspension of disbelief which can come into play. Well as you said about the whole I don't want to be going to try and trick me and stuff when we see miniatures it's like we're hoping that they're of higher quality enough that we can be tricked which like that does the kind of real actually I can enjoy that instead of so be like it's not rave on Twitter. There's the good lie and then there's the bad lie where the good the miniatures are the good lie. This isn't really a ship. It's a miniature. Yeah we're not trying to fool you fool you and then there's the rape scene of Wonder Woman 84 where it's just flat out. That's the bad lie where we are we are legitimately and earnestly asserting that the thing you just saw definitely wasn't the thing that you just saw but we saw it but we did see it because that's what you showed us and that's your fault for showing us that if you didn't want us to think it was that thing don't show us that thing. That's your fault. You can't show me an elephant and blame me when I say oh shit. It's an elephant and it's not a truck. Oh it's not a parakeet. It's a flash truck. Well someone said what's running in the background. It's my fan okay but it's really hot in Britain right now or at least stuff. Oh my gosh. Is it like take some of 20 degrees like rainstorm here. Yeah the comment wasn't worth the conversion in my head. It's fine. I want I want my old level of hotness. Of course it is. I'm British is it somewhat warm. Yeah it's somewhat uncomfortable. It's less moist today which is upsetting. I require my moistness. Less moist. Yeah. The moisture makes the heat worse. Well if it's really like rainy and moist I'll take it over over like this this it's a different. I don't know how to explain it. I am not a weatherman. I but it's stuffy it's stuffy. It's stuffy. Yeah it's not this is like this is a lot of air. Feel like you eat the air as it moves around you skin. So you feel like there's too much like you have like you're being suffocated almost by the by the air. It's just there's so much of it. I'm gonna have to like like it's thick around your face. Escort the air outside. So come on get out like Wonder Woman's raping me. Yeah. Yeah. See that kind of nails the feeling. Yeah set it yourself. Plot and logic are used to give you a feeling and support the reaction. So if the plot is contradictive convoluted fractures world-building and unethical that our people use their brain supposed great. You did show great. The great vocal positive reaction great. Don't say logic and plots aren't that important feelings are and then say logic and plot are also the foundation for feelings that makes no sense. What does this remind me of your kind of watching movies wrong now let's apply. I should just a beabree cab. Well, I get the impression this person probably either watches both drinker in eFap or at least has seen both of them in some way because it is hard to disassociate Tyrion's vomit from drinkers videos at this point for me. I've seen it so much. Yeah. Yeah. Same chicken plot. Those two things are used to give you a feeling to evoke a reaction from you. They are needed to support that reaction to the movie and his video director Patty Jenkins said this Diana. She doesn't punch people in the face. That's not the most effective way to stop. God I remember this. That is just so that in isolation. What a quote. Yeah. That punching someone in the face is not the most effective way to stop something something from happening. This applies. Good way to stop rape. It's good. It's also don't know that I was on though just kind of crazy that like a few months later we see Wonder Woman punching people so hard that their brain splatter against the wall. Yeah. Fine. That was his vision because that is fucking working with their bracelets and shit. It fucking works. So like why would you say it doesn't stop? It's not the most effective. Thanks for the commentary on every really super strong and rarely engage in combat. You're right. Anyone ever seen Spider-Man punch a person. Because I certainly haven't Batman doesn't punch people either. No Batman. Sit down and talk to them. Superman comes in he goes. Hey, stop it. You stop it. Let's let him rest. Cut that out. Yeah. Yeah. Put it down. Yeah. Nice and permanently. Yeah. Nice. Stop it. Stop it. Come on. I'm doing that. Stop that. Not super at all. Fuck. I can't believe you've done this. So typically people will cite other movies where she's punched the show. People is like you don't even have to look at what she's doing. Do you really think this is like this is the way to do it? She's not punching anyone. Okay. She's not punching. Yeah. It's just destroys the whole part of people are in old trunk. She crushes the kids when she rolls with them. That's not punching and that's crushing the kid in a world where bullets and on trial. It's not a punch. Not a punch. Don't count. Not a punch. No punch. Yep. Legs. Legs don't. It's legs. No arms. Let's kick the kick. Oh, jeez. Okay. Well, it doesn't. It's not a punch. Shut up. It's fine when they're evil. She's electric. Electricity's not a punch. Electricity's not a punch. Also, it's not effective against Diana. She's a rock. What one is rock type or a ground type Pokemon? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Physical attacks. So yeah, you don't want to. You gotta use psychic or water magic attacks. Oh, she's in water. So she needs water. Oh, my goodness gracious. Wow. Oh, my God. She's getting water. Let's get somebody and getting no blowback herself. Well, so I guess Diana's not affected by electricity and water. Yeah. She's just that good. Damn. Rudon being like he would die when when like Mudkip fired water at him. So I don't know. I feel like this. This is contradicting Pokemon lore. Yeah. Well, another way how Wonder Woman 84 fails. Let's be honest. Yeah. That's not how electricity works. I like the idea though that Wonder Woman is like I am strangling someone while holding them underwater and getting them electrocuted and being electrocuted. But thank God I'm not punching them. Yeah, just like it meant so much better than punching. It's so effective. Oh, God, you wouldn't want to punch him. That's that's cruelty right there. That's rude. They're not conscious. Yeah. Not how heroes do it. She's not that kind of person. You're right. I've always Diana has always struck me as really clever and intelligent. She would never just fuggishly punch somebody. Okay. And Marley speaking, you shouldn't just punch people electrocute them. Okay. That's the way to go. Yeah. Rape him. Go all the way. I agree. Rape them and electrocute them. You know what? Don't punch them. Rape them. Electrocute them and rape them. Don't punch them. That is the progressive way forward. The same time if you can. That's what they know. Half measures. So a funny tidbit about this particular part, right? This is Hytops video where he's basically advocating that she does not punch people and she's like too good for punching people. Southpaw cut that alongside her punching people to death in the Snyder cut. And you uploaded it Twitter. Very funny. We're all like, haha. Very funny. Good stuff. Haha. He got quote tweeted by a lot of people who were pissed at him for making this comparison, including Hytop who was like, I did not make this. He made that. I did not say it because people started to think that Hytop made a video criticizing the Snyder cut by comparing it to Patty Jenkins's comments. He was upset that people might assume that he was pointing out the. Yes. He was upset that people thought that he was pointing out the contradiction. Yeah, that is the. That's how furious he was. It was hilarious because then people, if you remember, they rolled out an argument that was the movies don't share continuity, even though they absolutely to or at least was supposed well to the point where they said not even like Man of Steel BVS Snyder cut share continuity. They're all separate sort of thing. They exist separate. They can change shit as much as they want because they're not the same movie. And then of course the argument came in that she literally electrocutes people and rapes them in the Humber own movie. So we don't even need to reference outside of it. She was one person. The other she was a number of rapes. Zero. The woman number of rapes. One. Oh, that just to sleep. Me too would have been awkward when it's like, what are you guys been up to? She's like. Well, if you believe Twitter, how many bats it takes to give me a hand job. This is Steve. I'm not Steve. I have been Steve for fucking two years now and as I've been reminded high top said Southpaw use this without high tops permission. Yeah, you don't you don't you didn't have Patty Jenkins fucking permission of your review. So kill yourself in a video game. Right? In a video game. Oh, yeah. And this is Minecraft jump into lava in Minecraft. Somebody somebody's actually been very astute. They said one rape that we know of. Oh, no, very true. I don't know how many she doesn't even recognize that it is rape. So who knows how many accidental rapes she's committed. You kind of look like scrap kisses without. Oh, man. This is a this is a sex offender right here. The beyond. Um, but you sort of came out of the register, wouldn't she? It is a fundamental, though, by the way, that people on like Twitter believed this was a good argument. They were like, you can fuck with like films anywhere you want and content made by people. But you can't fuck with the content made about the content. That's going too far. You shouldn't be taking high tops perspective on one thing and contrasting it and how wrong he is because of evidence and another thing. That's fucking rude, especially without his permission. One, the one she's too good for punching, but not for raping. You're good for punching. Not for munchin. Also, someone was like, there's a high top in chat. I'm pretty sure high top is not in chat. So just check your profile if you can. It's not going to be him. You know what? If you feel like it's high top. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's true. Okay. Pretend it is high top. Does he have the heart of high top? That's the important one. The passion and morality. And I think that's why so many people gravitated towards her first. It was a good scene. No, people are very easily fooled by really bad movies. That's why people thought the first one was great. I just want to make sure it was terrible. The scene, the scene was that was a good scene. Yeah, so no one's on the scene. No, it was terrible. It was awful. It's full of problems. There's a lot of plot issues. She survives because of plot armor. It was terrible. And I'm not a fan of this. That's what's the worst. She survives because of her armor, not plot armor. No, she's just not shot anywhere that her shield isn't because of plot armor. She has no business surviving that scene at all. It makes no sense whatsoever. It's a little bit to be like, oh, I'm going to go stop the bad guys when it's like, hey, we're not like, you know, real human beings. We can't just like end wars by having plot armor and running across the field and she's not a real human being. Well, so that's the problem. She's like, why aren't you guys getting over there and saving the people who are stuck in that village? And they're like, this is no man's land. It's a fucking nightmare. And it's just like, if you're not going to do it, I will. It's like Wonder Woman, particularly in the first film, is a really naive idiot. Yeah, she's naive for sure. But I did enjoy that. I did think it was a good thing. It's presented as like a good point that she made. Like I'm going to go save the people as if like the people who fought in that war weren't trying to stop it. It's a little bit like, yeah, I hear, I hear what you're saying. Obviously, you know, maybe Paddy should have decided to look at how many people died when they went over the top in World War One, or maybe research the fact that the general's plan was we have more men than they have bullets, which was actually the one of the leading forces in World War One is they would run out of bullets before we'd run out of men. But just as a way to establish her pushing as a hero in her heroic nature. Yeah, she's naive. She's naive and she doesn't get why they don't have to. She didn't have to worry about these things. Yeah, but she's proven right. It's not like, oh, you were not even wrong. It's like, oh, no, look, she was right because she did it. Isn't that explicably? She did just out of curiosity as how do you feel about the fact that she stumbled across Steve? He convinced her that the bad guys on the German team and that she'll work with the allies to destroy the Germans and get to him when... Oh, but he looked chunky with his top off. Of course, but it could just as easily have been the reverse. And so when you watch her destroying the young German conscripts in the middle of this war, do you not feel at all uncomfortable with the fact that like a superhero is just like, hey, who's the bad guy? And then one guy just goes, oh, them. And she goes, okay, wee. There's a little bit more context though, because obviously the Germans come through to Themyscira and they start shooting at the the Amazons and Amazons do die, et cetera. So she does have a better understanding of... Had a German... Their motivation. Well, had a German... If they were the good guys, they could have landed and say, hey, look, you know, oh my goodness, we've come into this island of beautiful fucking half naked women. Yeah, baby. No men, even better. More choice for us. And then gone, hey, look, peace. We're searching for a fugitive who's come through. There's a war going on behind there. He's a nasty man. So there's ways that they could have done it. For more context though, she makes a decision based on Ludendorff, not on the Germans attacking them. She actually thinks she's going to release the Germans from the war God's grip if she does this. Everyone, everyone, not just the Germans. But she's told that Ludendorff is the problem by Steve. Is it Steve that believes? I thought she would just made an assumption. Well, I mean, isn't that still a problem? Yeah, she fucks up, she fucks up. She thinks he's... Yeah, but she fucks up. I pulled up the scene. The Amazon shoot the Germans first or like the Germans. Oh, wait, no, they've already got their arrows lined up on them and the Germans then shoot and then they shoot the arrows. I still think that scene is bizarre. Like, it's just, it's just crazy. Well, it portrays the Germans as like this weird cartoonishly evil people. Even though this is World War One. This is the World War One. Yeah, I think, I think they forgot this isn't like, I would still have problems with it in World War Two, but I think they forgot which World War this was. Yeah. Well, because they travel through a fucking portal into another world sort of, like as far as they know. And then they're like, there's women. Kill them. They're like, wait, what? Why? What are we doing? Yeah. That's a bad act. But again, with things like that, when it when it comes to stuff like this, you, you know, we know that the Germans were the bad guys. No, we don't. Or at least from our perspective in World War One. No, I don't agree with that. I think that it's not clear who the bad guys were in World War One. I think World War One is way more complicated. I'm scared. And I think that was awesome. Yeah. But that was Austria, Hungary. Yeah, that was Austria and Hungary and the Austrian Hungary Alliance had obviously huge links to the Germans. Yeah. But it was all like entanglements. Like I don't the reason why the war happened was because like there were a whole bunch of entanglements between all these different countries that basically spiraled into a massive war. And like all of them had. Essentially how World War Two grew. Yeah. But like with World War Two, like started with a false flag operation that they used to invade Poland and then they started like system that like it's not World War One was caused by this weird entanglement of alliances and like World War and World War One was complicated. World War two. Well, well, yeah, I whole point is that if if if like a German spy plane had landed in that place and then Americans came in through a rowboat, the whole story would have been backwards because Wonder Woman had no reason to believe that like we have she was told any more evil than the Americans or the British. She was all the higher up in the British Empire. Need to be killed. They were our enemies in as much as from our sides perspective. This was our enemy. But so from Steve sides, you know, he's the one who doesn't show aggression towards them. He's the one who lets them bathe him. The Germans are the ones that come through and they are the ones that open fire. But that's not reasoning though. We have a we have a yeah. We have a very loose morality system there, but it's in a very loose way. We're showing good guy versus bad guy. But you know, I don't think you want to stop in the middle of the world is like doing the assassination of Franz Ferdinand to clarify. I'm fine with them pushing back on the Germans after they start shooting. That's totally what I'm saying is that she's told that the current events of the world and she's like, right. So I need to kill Ludendorff and to do that I'm going to smash through many young German conscripts when she could just as easily have been doing the reverse because the she's that's how naive she is. It feels really awkward to watch a super powered being just slaughtering young people who have been pushed into a wall. They don't even understand and she has no idea why she's even really doing it beyond. I'm pretty sure that's the God of War up there. It's like especially because what about the God of War doing this Captain America the first Avenger. Well, so what so he understands the war fully. Yeah. And also like and he's super powered and he's and he's taking lives of. Yeah, that's his choice to make. She decided she's got bad information like severely and is based on the luck of having met an American before a German. Also different. Yeah, he's not a non aggressive or what he was incapacitated to be honest with but she got an incapacitated out saved him was just like oh he's got a penis. He didn't come across as aggressive and then the Germans came through and they were aggressive. Yeah, but that's that's kind of the point right is that had it gone the other way around we'd be watching a movie where triumphant music was playing as Wonder Woman killed a bunch of British. Didn't the fact is it didn't sell. No, but that's the issue. It didn't her character. The issue is that her character would have done either way. Yeah, boogie's bullet did what happened to fall on anybody. No. Now it's not a problem to come through and if Steve was I'm not losing anything. This is just this is an interesting debate. This is this is why we have these debates. Absolutely. Come on about winning and losing. It's about debating these things. Now if Steve had come through and let's say he was conscious and was aggressive towards Diana and then was knocked out then it could have easily have changed their perception of when the Germans came through to see how they would react. So they might have not been so willing to to sort of like go down and you know point some arrows or whatnot. But even if they were British that came through I imagine the Amazons would have reacted exactly the same. It was against man. Nevermind where the country was. So let's say the British came through. I still imagines that the imagine that the Amazons would have gone down to the beach Bose drawn. Well, yeah, we agreed. We're saying that. So a German plane crash crashes. She pulls him out and then the British people come through the portal like what the fuck is this and they all have their war and the German guys like these fucking people in Britain who are controlling all of this. They're making the war happen. You've got to stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then one woman's like right time to kill some British consequence on the coast of Britain. Yeah, depending if she she fancied the German guy like she fancied. Yeah, but if it was a let's say he's a hot German guy. Yeah, he's going to be there. Yeah, well, wasn't there also the the aspect of them sensing Aries sensing Aries at work regardless. Well, she kind of areas would be behind everything. I was going to say she was behind one side. She was mistaken, of course. So she could have sensed anything behind any but I'm pretty sure it's just the description of they plan to like, you know, win the war like in a definitive sense, hopefully, which is the the goal of either side. I would imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, in her but her goal was to to stop areas. Yeah, she thinks that war ends when you kill Aries, which, by the way, it does. Yeah. We're led the entire movie to believe that this is an absurd ridiculous piece of nonsense because, of course, it is and the film says, No, that's that's how it works. They literally have German and I guess British soldiers like hand in hand at the end. Like they got like their arms on their shoulder sort of thing like, Yeah, we did it. Aries. How do we explain World War Two? We put you do. Aries or somehow Aries returns because ultimately Aries was in the British government. Yeah, he was. And you know, obviously, you know, so, you know, everyone was being played. No, well, that's kind of the point, right? It's just it's really tough to watch her beating the shit of the German soldiers when you know that she could just as easily be doing to British people. She has no idea what's happening. This is just a very strong person imposing her will on the world in the middle of a war. Hmm. Meanwhile, Steve is like he signed up. He's like official and a lot of the missions he's doing is trying to rescue people. Rescuing soldiers, stopping. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. I want to end like all of the countries like they want to drop bombs on Moscow, Berlin, London and yeah, the hydras its own team sort of thing. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't the fact that we Diana didn't know she was tricked. This is the whole point. She was tricked by airy. She believes she knew exactly who was the instigator of it all. And so when she killed him, well, then she realized, you know, I've done I've done a fuck up. Well, she doesn't feel bad about it. She keeps doing it when she fights airy. She then kills a bunch more Germans. Yeah, she had to raise the kills. Yeah. And also it's not she's not tricked by airies. She just assumes that airies is Ludendorff. She just jumps to that. Even though David Thulis is how airies looks and she sees a guy who looks just like David Thulis in Britain. You know, I feel like that's a better connection. Yeah. Didn't even write them. Didn't even write. Oh, did she? Oh, we know of only one. It's God of War is a nice apartment. Yeah, I don't know if I don't even know if I has nose, but we don't we don't like one to woman here. I'm afraid of the first one. It's really really sexist here. And we went in. I actually introduced it as the one that was probably going to be the best that we were going to enjoy. I was wrong. Quite a bit. I'd forgotten a lot of how the movie progresses and stuff. But I mean, Steve is like the Steve Trevor is. I think we agree. He's like the best thing about the movie. Strong point. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. But he's got a he's got a very strong personality and yeah, Chris Pines a good actor. He's got a personality and Wonder Woman doesn't really have one in Gal Gadotza. Horrifically bad actress. Yeah, but she looks gorgeous. She's going to make a fucking smoking. Hey, she's smoking. Gee. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, both but and that forgives the monk you to see. Well, I guess it gets super awkward though, because then you have someone like Elizabeth Olson, who is also very beautiful, but like actually talented. So, you know, it's not like. Well, they can both be psychopaths. Luckily they are. We did it. But Elizabeth Olson is because she's a better actress. She can more convincingly portray. More convincingly portray the psychopath. You're completely correct. Yes. Hey, he's bringing some people can do it naturally. Yeah. Yeah. Don't even try. Have some respect for the craft of psychopathy. Oh, psychopathy. And you know what? Anyway, let's let us get back to the wonder's will to back to high top. We're giving him the Greedo treatment. We've got to stay focused here. I like how she leaves the guy in that alley. Oh my goodness. This by the way, I'm assuming is to just contrast with the whole she's not the kind of person to punch a person. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of kicking there. Lot of a lot of kicking. And if you punch with a shield, is it really a punch? If you throw a table to somebody, does that count as a punch? I think it's just a punch with your foot. Hmm. We'll have to see what science has to say about that shield at somebody. There's a tree fall over in Brazil. These are the questions we can't answer. Okay. We're not powerful enough. If Wonder Woman punches a German, does a tree fall in Brazil? Find out next. In Argentina. Does a butterfly get its wings? Dude, imagine being one of these guys, just a normal fucking war day. And then you just like, who the fuck is this cause player? Ah, look, she's killing him. Oh my God. What? I have not been trained for how to react to this. Please don't kill me. I don't even know you. I just know out of my dad. I just wanted to go back to my family in Hamburg. No. I just want to go back to my school and teach geography. My mama is waiting for me. They have like, oh my God, look, she beats them all. They win. They're cheering. Everyone's like, yeah, we did it. There's just one German guy in the corner covered in like blood of his friends shivering like, please, please, please, please don't go home. I just want to go home. I love Betty Gerbers. God, that guy. Oh, damn. K.O. That is definitely a K.O. People are going to hate this magic wishing rock, but like, dude, did you hate the radioactive spider? The baby sent from the- No, I didn't. No. I normally- They work to his- Normally, I would say that we could respond to this, but I was going to say that Madvika does a response to this is probably going to be like- Okay, right. I forget. I hear high tops this thing. I hear his voice. And my brain wants to just pounce. Absolutely. No, well, add whatever you want to it once he's done is, I guess, because this point was so fucking frustrating to listen to. Planet. These are false equivalencies. The spider bites someone, that person gets super strength, agility, heightened senses, sticky fingers and the ability to shoot webs out of their wrists, depending on the adaptation. That's it. Then the spider either disappears or dies and the movies stick to those powers. The baby sent from Krypton? How can that be remotely compared? A distant planet inhabited by a different species is on the brink of destruction and the baby is sent off in a capsule to keep him safe. Well, why would anybody hate that? We don't hate the magic rock because it grants wishes upon touching it. We can buy that with no problem. I don't think anybody has the issue of a fantasy element being that it's a fucking wish granting rock. It's unusual. Wishes have been part of popular culture and media and fairy tales since time immemorial. I mean, then in and of itself, the wishes aren't the problem. This is why wishes are developed to have rules and limitations and unforeseen side effects and consequences. And they're often used as cautionary tales. Wishes were fine with wishes. Wishes are D&D. We get them. We like how they're implemented and how they're executed. I like wishes. Wish Wonder Woman didn't rape anyone. Yeah. They're asking a bit much though. I wish I wish she didn't rape me. I like it because it's rules are contradictory and it seemingly has no. Yeah, it's the rule that the, you know, you can understand if it like you wish on this rock, you'll get what you want. But something's going to happen. Yeah. There's going to be an exchange to get it. But when he just says, I want to be you. So the rock becomes him. He just like. I think the rock understands people's intentions when they make wishes. I think that's fairly consistent. That's going to help you out quite a bit when you're you're going to be writing something like this. And I think it's I think that's great. It's going to it's going to make things much more straightforward. However, other fuck to explain Wonder Woman's wish at that point. That's that's the thing. That's that's the odd one out. That's the no, it's nice. It's the other woman's wish that makes no sense because she says I wish I was like Diana. Not Wonder Woman. She has no concept of Wonder Woman or Diana being Wonder Woman. She says I wish I was like Diana strong. You're right. Yeah. Well, so this is what we're talking about. Yeah. So if you go more, she's going to just be like, yeah, this film's bad. I gave it too much credit for a split second. I got I watched myself for just a split second. I let like guard down. Maybe this film wasn't utter shite. If you consider all of the wish results, you get the literal interpretation and thus whatever bad things come with that the rocks the dealer's choice. The rock makes up whatever it wants in terms of what you just said or the exact interpretation of what the person wanted. Yeah. Like I wish I had a farm and just like cows drop all over you. Yeah, that's that year. What a prick rock. You gave that one guy with you. Come on. You know what I meant. You asshole rock like I wish I had the strength to take out like all kinds of guys and then just make you the size of a planet and you're like what that this is this is impractical and you just die because that's quick. You'd lower thing that would kill you, right? At least all being in space. I suppose that would kill you to that as well. To bring someone from the dead, it has to take over a random living person's body. Hey, they see you looking in the mirror. He sounds like just materialized. Oh, that's what my confusion was. I think that when I first watched the movie, my confusion came from in the mirror. I thought that that was a reflection of his quote unquote true body where so everybody else saw him as everyone saw him as Steve, but he was really that person who was inside the handsome guy inside, but he just became a part of the world and everyone accepted it. That was what my confusion was. Am I am am I am I like an idiot or am I seeing something here? That's not possible for a car or if the car Oh, it rose. Okay, all come. Yeah, don't ask what replaced the empty space that's now beneath it. Don't think about it. The rocks came up from the. Yeah, okay. And there was a car over it at the time, which I think is a nifty little detail. You know, someone's trapped for some reason. My brain read it as there was a car in the background driving through and that they accidentally. No, it has to take over a random living person's body and replace their soul, but later it just materializes things into existence. Someone can just become the rock. It doesn't have to be touch to grant wishes anymore. You can just look at the rock on a screen. Yes, I know there's an explanation for this, but the president says it's just a figure of speech. So Max isn't actually making any sort of physical contact with anyone. Wait. Now you don't even have to look at it anymore. When you lack to find rules or change them along the way to fit your plot, your investment and believability takes a hit because if anything can just happen out of nowhere, then what are the stakes anymore? And I purely explained that it's not about a wish granting rock about the fact that it makes no fucking sense and we can't grasp what the hell is at stake if if anything can happen. Well, particularly at the end when we know the way to change everything's just go. Oh, I just renounce my wish. Yeah, that's as easy as that. Everything goes back to normal. It's like why I don't even. Hmm. Okay. I guess the normal normal because of this universe. Petra Pascal still has an Asian child for some reason. Well, it's an Asian woman. Yeah. But that's never shown. Nothing. None of it is explained. No, I think that's a pretty reasonable inference that if you're a kid, you should have been adopted. It could have been, you know, they just wanted to just wanted to have diversity kid in for some reason. I don't care about having an agent. I actually liked that kid. No, at least at least just be consistent and show the fucking wife. Do they? I don't think I ever do. So we understand otherwise. Because of his pursuit of, you know, fame and power. Yeah, I think I'd have to watch it again. I can't remember if there's lines for that about if they broke up because of his obsession with like making money and shit. I'm assuming that's just but he's but the kid's still there. The kid still turns up. So he's got to get from A to B somehow. The kid. Yeah, he's his son. His son doesn't live. Oh, yeah. No, of course, the wife probably fucking buried or whatever. Yeah. So yeah, just just have the wife drop him off and then at least we've got a bar. Wait, so you you said you'd be much happier if the wife dropped him off. She was Asian. Yeah, yeah, at least just to be at least just to give a thread because it's just a bit jarring. Well, I assume because I know how humans work that if your kid is half Asian, then you had sex with an Asian assuming you're not Asian or else he'd be full Asian. But it don't don't just think it's weird. No, no, I don't know what the weird part is. I'm very lost. I just don't have any information. It's it's it's when you're in it, right? Okay. Would look with healing in this of this weird superhero world that's a pseudo 80s that isn't the 80s at all because it's 84 and half the stuff in it and it came after 84, but never mind. Don't worry about stuff like the video games and all that sort of banana stuff. Then we have a monkey poor type of crystal, which is giving wishes off and we don't understand the concept of the wishes because they seem to alternate per person. So there's no benchmark for us to to to establish what the rules of that is. We've got a Steve Trevor walking around in a different man's body as Steve Trevor and we've got people confused as to whether they can see Steve Trevor or whether you can see handsome man and then we've got this Petro Pascal's kid just turns up and it's just an Asian kid. It's just like can you just least show some threads to connect? I guess the problem is that like to me this is kind of like baffling because yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, like I'm like if you're like if Major Pascal has a kid who's Asian, it means that he had sex with an Asian woman. Do you know that? You don't know that. Well, but it wouldn't matter. You know what? I don't know what I don't know. I don't know that, but I have an extremely high level of justifiable confidence that that is the case. Yeah, yeah. Well, to make sure, right? I'm just saying it's weird and it's weird and it's and it's just should be. I don't know that's how people work though. It's on too many levels for me. I mean, America is a good old melting pot, right? Like it's not going to be unusual. I don't know. I can at least understand that you're saying there's a moment there where you might assume is the film trying to tell me something that's not it's not exactly the same skin color as Pedro Pascal. Therefore, something else may have happened, but I mean, I don't think it's much confusion to just be like I was an Asian wife or adoption either one. Well, I mean, it's well, yeah, exactly. Because like if ever, if ever you just see a kid and like they look a little bit different from their parent, two assumptions is the other parent is a different race or alternatively that they were adopted. It's like neither of all totally like that. They're completely scans for me. I just think I think it's weird. I just think it's a weird thing to do without explanation. I mean, I don't think you have to explain in a movie that if people from two different races have a kid, the kid will be mixed. It will be mixed. Yeah. Don't you feel like you wouldn't want it to be that way? Like you wouldn't want them to overtly be like the reason he's not the same skin color as I is my wife here is I just like I like just a bit of continuity. That's all I like. I like a bit of continuity. How is this a break in continuity? I'm not I'm not saying it ruins the film. I'm not a significant brain in film and I think the whole thing's so weird. The film anyway in itself is so inconsistent and weird that it just would have been nice to have just to you know, just have the wife dropping. So the ex-wife just have the ex-wife or the ex-girlfriend whichever relationship was just dropping them off or at least some sort of explanation that just makes you go why's he just why's he's got an Asian kid now? He's always an Asian kid. Yeah. Or at least in this. Or why is he getting whatever? Okay. Well, I guess I guess for me it would be the fundamental of like I don't need an explanation for why somebody is like the race that they are because you Yeah, I don't need to see the conception to fill in the works. I could understand. I'm not asking for the conception. I'm just asking for some some logic in the film because the film is so devoid of logic. I just want some logical threads to go through it. But why is it illogical that his kid looks the way he does? I don't know but you don't know but you see you know because you're now you are making the logical assumption. You're making your assumption. Yes, you're making the assumption. You're not you're not working off what the film has provided for you. Correct. Yes, but the thing is when say for example, Max is the montage of him talking to Wonder Woman and then he enters his building, would you understand if I said I need to see him driving in order to see him get to these two places to use that example. No, I've been a complete completely different things. Completely different things. They're exactly the same. But well, why? Why do you think the the meaningfully different? Because his Max is an adult and we've it's normal to assume that he can drive a car. It's it's it's all right. I mean disagree. Fine. You know you don't have to. I'm not asking for an agreement here. You find Asian women hot right really silly in a film that's devoid of logic that doesn't make a lot of sense any way through the film that you just keep putting these silly these why would class is silly little things for with no explanation given. We're like most. So well and it's on too many levels because you know the woman has to be like Diana but then she becomes like Wonder Woman and then it just makes you want to beat up men that hit on her. You know it's all these weird things. It's just don't make a logical sense. I want all your oil. Oh, I'll take your security guards instead for oil. Now here's a wall that's the things that they're asking for don't make any logical sense. Yeah, I mean I would I would agree with all that but like I didn't need to be honest. I didn't even realize that the kid wasn't of the same ethnicity as Pedro Pascal like I didn't. I never even thought about it. Well, could I? I was talking about the Asian kid. I had no idea what you were talking about. Well, one of my compliments to the film is actually their relationship. I enjoyed it. I like yeah. I feel like I still this this tells you something. I still remember that he was encouraging the kid to make a wish for themselves and they made a wish for the dad's life to be better and even Pedro Pascal goes no, no, no, no, no, no. Like when because he's asking the kid to do what in his heart he wants. I remember finding that quite meaningful that a child would automatically try and look out for their parent and it's like when when you when you Pedro wanted him to be more selfish. It's like I like that payoff quite a bit. Um, I yeah, I I didn't really care like what I've nested that the child is. I was more concerned about what we know how we and he got blown up out of real portion. So anyway, all right back to high top even though let's see what he says next. Then what are the stakes anymore? If we can buy the lasso of truth. We can buy this. Oh boy. The last of truth is his own problems. Lasso of truth in this movie. Actually, you know what? I'll let him I'll let him say it. This movie is what made me not buy the lasso anymore. It can wrap around lightning bolts. It can catch bullets. It can propel Diana off of air. There's the scene where she lets go of Steve Trevor and lasso is a clock tower that's way off in the distance and then does the same thing with a plane that's miles away. Then there's the absolute. You wonder if she could last out of the mood. Yeah, I mean tell me that. Can't that plane is fucked by the way. Like the strongest. She are just the sudden yank of Wonder Woman. Yeah, this is crashes. Esther of a climax which I shall get to later but this thing has zero limits and it's a problem. Remember when Spider-Man's web couldn't reach the crane and he needed help or when he had to run to his destination because there were no buildings. Well if he had webs of truth then maybe he would have made it. Webs of truth. If only there was a handy aeroplane. If only. And that focus on love that focus on empathy that defined the first film. Yeah. Empathy on these poor German guns scripts. These these geography teachers and cobblers who've been put to the terrible situation. Defines my favorite elements of this one. It isn't very empathetic of Wonder Woman to be completely okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh. While it's on my mind as I need your opinion. Yeah. What do you end of Wonder Woman 84 as what's your opinion on the wink of the camera? What by Linda Carter? No, yes. Well, I assume that she was the woman that they were talking about in the golden armor from earlier. Yeah. What do you think about the wing? Cheers. I thought the whole thing was shit. Yes. They're right. It's just another silly fourth wall breaking for some fucking reason in a stupid film. I don't like Wonder Woman 84 much. I like the I like it. I like the wink. I like the Linda Carter wink. I thought it was great. No, that's okay. Right. It was great. She's not like hey, it's me. I'm Linda Carter. I'm the old super old super Wonder Woman. I'm gonna post a little. You know, here I am. I don't need a camera to understand the post credits. Little post credits like recognition of way out of the other. Yeah. That was great. The right. Eve has heartless. Yes, we are. That's the whole Brad. And I love the chat back. Fuck yeah. Not today. Having the strangers dead boyfriend soul could take over his body and then have sex with him. The point is, I don't care about how Steve is back. You don't care about how Steve is back. We care about what him being back means. How are we supposed to care about the mean? She's a rapist. Absolutely back when the way he's back is really messed up until the wishes were announced. He will always be taking over a random human's body. Every time he's on screen is a reminder of this. Like you said, don't make the rock put Steve's soul in the body of some poor schmuck. Just make the rock bring him back to life. But unfortunately, that's not what the movie shows us. Yeah, even High Top is like, they should have done it. The way of bringing him back. Yes, they should have. I'm glad High Top has recognized this. Yeah, I'm glad we all agree. It's this tiny glimmer of hope that I see in him that will ultimately be squashed by this next sentence, but it's nice to see it. It's nice to be reminded of that's to get a little reason that keeps us all going. One more step one day. Also can not simply ignore something so unsettling that was planned and approved to be in the movie without even addressing it in the narrative. The soul swap takes a toll on those scenes that strive for emotional resonance. Guess what? No, what's bad is that the soul swap hurts Steve a whole lot too. It doesn't just hurt Wonder Woman. It hurts Steve. He at least brings it up, I think, right? It doesn't you say? Yeah, it's almost like a but that almost makes it worse that he recognizes it and acknowledges it. So you don't have the excuse of he doesn't even know or register it. He really wanted to do it. Cognitive distance. What hurts is neither of them have a moral core. I mean about the person whose body they're exhibiting they're in mind that she can see it. Because yeah, isn't the reasoning at the end that you need to give up the wish so that you can have your strength back? Not because it's not going to anything to do with handsome guy. Which is it makes no sense that her powers being sapped. No, but it is. And so they decide you got to let me go. It's really disappointing and she's crying her eyes out and it's like you just save someone's life, by the way. I don't even know if you recognize that. It's fine. It's still move on. It's fine. Nobody would have my boyfriend's the parasite. Tracted or had this criticism if the rock just rematerialized his body like it seemed to do with everything else. I care about the 10 minutes of Steve and Diana flying. Unfortunately, this is another scene that had a rough foundation to set it up. Diana quickly brings up. She might have the power to turn things invisible. There we go. That's okay. I'll just turn the plane invisible. This is the girl. It's like a way I might as well help me a mug invisible once and then I lost it or some shit. She says you do it once like 10 years ago or some shit. This is like, oh, okay, which is like it. So it goes to show that the writers knew to have her mentioned that she had some knowledge of this ability beforehand, but they just still did like they had enough presence of mind to have her say that. But then they just like, oh, that's enough. It's amazing. We've done our job here. We've properly explained this. I suppose at least they took the time to do that with the flight thing. She just did it. This is flight. Now none of this and I genuinely mean none of this was ever established or even hinted at. I'm not saying it should be impossible for her to ever use this power, but there is no previous indication she can possibly do this when you conveniently introduce the ability to use a skill that progresses the plot and just toss in a throwaway line. One that isn't even good. It's just really lazy and contrived, especially when you consider how many other times was she aware of this power that she could have used it and she just didn't, especially if her whole attempt is to try and what stay under the radar sort of like she was destroying cameras and stuff. Just turn invisible. You can turn invisible cameras. Um, advocate is in chat. He just said to everyone saying I sound depressed in this video. I had like 50 subs when I made this. Oh, he's come a long way. He's at 24k now. That's great. Hey, good shit. That's incredible. That's great. Excellent work, sir. We're all we're two thirds. It won't be a half through. I didn't come in on that. I would have got a shot on for that as well. Fuck it up. You at 50 subs probably sounded depressed. I was like, oh, it's just as from heal this is baby. Hey, if I was talking about what a world craft. Hmm. I still got those on my recommendations every once in a while. Your old ass world of Warcraft videos. I have no interest whatsoever in World of Warcraft. I don't know. I I have no idea. I guess it's just because it's yours, but I don't get any of your or as much of your recent stuff or whatever reason. YouTube's like, yeah, but like 12 years ago, he did this thing about World of Warcraft. You want to look at that, right? I'm like, it's yeah. He said he said that was a joke. Read the fuck. He's like, no, I thought it was a joke. You're fine. It's a good joke. 50 years only done at once. I don't know. Ladies coffee. You're going to be fucking kidding. She's talking about right. By the way, if he is, I did it once. I feel like if you learned you had the ability to make objects invisible, you'd be doing that all the time. Yeah, a little bit more. You probably just like, oh, sick. This is sick. I will. Yeah, I don't know. Damn. Maybe incredible. Table invisible. Let me try this shit out. Hide my wheels from the car. Yeah, it's great. They can smell it, those dogs, but they can't see it. At least this movie got a throwaway line. Other movies don't give you jack shit. Also turning the jet invisible completely hides it from the radar. Don't the radio waves bounce off objects and that's how they're detected. Does this mean invisibility doesn't just physically cloak an object. It also removes it from corporeal existence. Oh, God, let's not. You're giving it you're giving it way much more thought in your YouTube video than the professional writers did. I've seen their millions. I saw someone in a conversation. Could have been one of ours or someone else, but it was saying that like some radars are based on like visibility or something. I don't know enough about radar to be able to counter that, but I was just like, huh? Well, it seemed very counterintuitive to the audience to be like, we're invisible. Radar cannot detect us. Like that doesn't that doesn't track to the audience as far as I'm correct. But yeah, this is probably correct. Like I said, I have to look into how radar works distance to if that's the case, then how can they still sit in the jet without being invisible to the colors explode heart and soul. But the colors explode heart and soul. Do you guys have a thing that would be easy to make a film high top would enjoy? It's like all I'm going to do is throw some sappy shit in here every once in a while. It'll be fine. Colors. Yeah, blue colors. Me any emotion? Unless I'm intellectually satisfied by how they got here to begin with the colors, the colors, colors, colors, colors, colors. It really matters your ink the stunts or aesthetics or insanity or the showmanship. It's the fact that every single one of these action beats in the movie from start to finish is about saving people. This is a very strange thing to give props for because that can be said for most action scenes in these movies. I feel like how many how many fucking MCU or DC or whatever superhero movies do you go? Wow, that action scene was all about not helping anybody. It was pretty rare. Not impossible. But the deal is about him helping people. Well, except for that scene in a in Wonder Woman where she killed all those Germans because Steve died. That wasn't about saving anyone. Oh, that was what she was angry. She. Yeah. This funny because you're citing the one person that heights up a movie like that would never happen for Wonder Woman. You know what would kill people out of rage. Yeah. I feel like I had seen this all before, but I know he's referencing these two scenes. Both are ridiculous and not in a good way. Diana straight up lasso's max with no problem and then just does nothing and talks to him. What does this reminds me of? How can you possibly get the drop on flash? Yeah. So for reference, one of the things people recommend in Super Chasers is the map get out apparently has a breakdown of the flash. I forget which seasons, but he's got a I think it's like a bit of a long man on how bad the show is. I've not seen flash, but man, am I tired of watching people be faster than flash? Holy shit. Stop it. Well, that's kind of the awkward thing with flash is usually the I don't know about the show, but in the comics, it's like the big bad is just another flash like reverse flash or Godspeed because that's what a Captain Cold is too. But like, yeah. I like Captain Cold as a villain. I like I like a lot of captains. Yeah, it's not even the army. It's just nice to have a ranking system. So sort of hierarchy them all. Lieutenant Ray. I'm probably the first class sexual assault. Why didn't he just grab the gun though before he stopped the one? There's nowhere to go. The flash is notoriously slow, so you can't really do that. He's not. He's not bright. Wait, just like, oh, fine. God, this is going to be so frustrating to watch. My name is Barry Allen and I am the fastest man alive. Yeah, well, maybe. Fucking I want to be caught by the flash. You but she doesn't. She lets Max command is meant to shoot at her and then decides to pull him when she's compromised, but it's only to body slam these guys. And then there's the climax the way the sequence of the climax happens should not allow the saving to happen in that scene. The only reason Diana is able to save Max and get everyone in the world to renounce their wish is because she wrapped the lasso of truth around his ankle. How does this happen if the scene establishes that the wind is too strong to do that? Well, I can explain this. It's a sneaky little snack and it wiggles waggles on the floor all the way to his leg. Okay, I would have gone like further down like a stream, right? She she goes further up the stream the wind stream and then she lassos it so it gets pulled maybe towards them. What about if it just connects to him offscreen? That would be easier. Well done it. Nice guys. Yeah, all right. High five. All right. Check hashed. Yeah. Bell turns out the lasso just independently wrapped itself around him offscreen after she stopped trying. I don't know if this is after she stopped trying. Is it like an anaconda or something? Dude, the lasso is like if you're not going to do it, I guess I will. This lasso really wanted to just go home. Yeah, I guess it's up to me. Like an editing mistake and they left out an entire shot. But this is how the movie is and it's a huge continuity error nonetheless. Watch it again. The lasso is flopping around. Diana gives up and takes a seat and then it tells that fucking movie. Teleports to his leg at some point after that and before her speech. Don't tell us one thing and show us another. Also, it's even stranger when you see that the lasso is going under the railing implying there's no way Diana whipped it over to him. Maybe it's well. So she she went prone and then she whipped it. Right. Yeah, you got low to the ground. Call it a deal. Wind was less strong there. Lothered on over to Max like a snake again. Help. Yeah, it wasn't something the lasso can do. I should have turned around. That is very sneaky. Hmm. And if only he was facing the right way. So he could have been like, oh, get away from me. Sneaky snack. Don't you dare get to my foot? You're like, yeah, do you like how the armor bends at the wall? I do. I was about to bring it up. They shouldn't have that. This is supposed to be indestructible. Mega metal armor and it's just clearly bending when she presses it against the wall. Why would you do this? Why have her against the corner that makes her outfit do that? Why film? Why that is quite the bend? That's gone all the way up. I noticed it when we watched the movie, but I guess they didn't notice it when they were making the movie or something. They didn't give a fuck. They were like, why do you even need the gold armor because she renounced her wish and got all the powers back? Anyway, yeah, then she ends up just breaking it. Bitch, like this thing is incredible. This should be in a museum. She's like, nah, remember? This has it. That's the best part. Some people argue it's like it gave it flight. It's like she could fly anyway. Watch the movie. Max not feel the lasso around his leg during her entire speech. When it's been established that the lasso is really hot. What the hell is this thing? It's really hot. I'm sure you'd love to call these nitpicks, but they are completely consequential to the story. This is what allows her to save the world. You could call that consequential, I guess. A little bit. We also save the universe for considering what the wishes could have been. It's like, I wish for every planet to explode. Fuck it. Seven billion people making wishes. There is a couple of them who'd say, fuck all of this. I want to get a million. If you think somebody said, I wish that my grand didn't die of cancer. Yeah. Yeah, you need to announce your wish. Bruce Wayne was out there, you know, little Bruce Wayne. I wish my parents were didn't get killed in that alley. Well, then they come back and it's this. That's a Rick and Morty joke right there. They come back and then they talk and it's amazing. And then she forces him to renounce his wish through that stupid magical bullshit. And the corpse is just like, they just appear out of like, they're sitting on the chair, but then they just go, yeah. And he's just like, that's what convinced him to be Batman. Like this Wonder Woman person, she's terrible. I was stopping. They did it in zero hour. His parents, he could see his parents again in zero hour when they did it in the comics. Oh, this isn't a legitimate problem. Then there would be no issue if the climax to end game went like this. Oh, Kang made him do it. I was going to say, there are plenty of problems with that game, but I think he's highlighting a different one here, a potential different one. I'm going to pause for copy flumps. I always feel worried that streaming is a lot harsher than when it's in a video sometimes, you know, inevitable. And yeah, the meme here is going to be that he's just got the stones anyway. Yeah, yeah, my favorite. Hey, man, that'd be pretty, that would be the kind of thing where I think all audiences everywhere would be like, what? What just happened? How did he get the other you get high? So I'd be like, well, it's about the heart. It's not about the plot. Okay. We understand this is supposed to be an emotional moment with a theme. But when the build up to it is already this broken from contradicting itself, the supports for the emotional payoff are going to collapse for a lot of us. And it's lazy, a little messed up and not fulfilling at all when it turns out that the damn magic rock is behind her internal change. Hey, man, apply. That's the entire MCU. Now, you know, every behind everybody's decisions. This is Kang. Turns out there's always something else. Kang did it. Seeing her character go on a journey to do this. Kang was probably behind movies in general, just stories. I was doing it all. Kang made her rape. It wasn't me. It was just wished away. So you care about logical progression and internal consistency when it comes to character, but claim that doesn't matter when it comes to plot. I am fully behind a more gradual and rational character change because otherwise it becomes character assassination. So I completely agree on that note, but to execute this journey and earn the character change, you need a plot that rationally causes this. You said yourself the rock is what caused her character change, which is plot, but if the logic of the plot doesn't matter, if the inconsistent and lackluster rules of the rock don't matter, then just accept that the rock gave her a change of character, I guess. Yeah, you can make the algorithm back to him every time. It's like, can you focus on the hot of the story? Why you have to be all flimpy about it? Would much rather have seen her character go on a journey, not have it just wished away. I would much rather have seen Steve and Diana go on a journey to escape the authorities, not just turn the jet invisible with an unestablished power. I would much rather have seen her character go on a journey, not have it just wished away. I would much rather have seen Diana go on a journey to the satellite, not just make the length of her lasso limitless, give her the power of flight, and swing from lightning bolts and nothing. That flight thing was no fucking weird. Dude, it's gonna pull people out. You can fly? This is a prequel. Where was the flight? Much rather have seen her character go on a journey, not have it just wished away. I would much rather have seen Diana successfully grab Max's leg with the lasso, not just establish that it's impossible to do it, and then have it teleport to his leg offscreen without him noticing for a couple of minutes. Movies aren't about logic and plot. What is this fear of criticism about the plot in the first place? I assume the main angle they'll have is like, if you focus on the plot, you're missing the point. They often say you're missing the point. No, the point was to create a better, stronger Germany. Exactly. It's just, it is hilarious though, because they'll be so obsessive about this stuff when it's like you are literally trying to translate to them why you didn't get the same feels. Yeah, I need you to understand why... Film analysis should explore the execution in its entirety, not just the spoon-fed themes and drama. I know Hytop says his video is just his emotional response, but then he states, Movies aren't about logic and plot. In the same video, Netflix's Daredevil is my absolute favorite piece of media, specifically season three. I doubt anyone loves it more than I do, but I absolutely welcome any criticism towards the plot or internal inconsistencies. In fact, I challenge it. That way, if there is mostly an absence of writing problems, I can appreciate and love the show even more for being so careful with its details. If the opposite is proven, I can still love the show while acknowledging that it isn't as tight as I thought it was. If I see there's a 10-hour critique of my sacred cow, I would think, huh, I wonder what they have to say. No, you shouldn't think that. You should think. Long man bad. Get rid of them. Long man bad. They're destroying everything. Wow, what a loser-in-self virgin nerd. And actually watch it, because I'm not a pussy. Movies aren't just about logic and plot, but cause and effect incites emotion. When you thoroughly break down why you had a certain reaction or feeling to a movie, it will always stem back to plot. Everything, including character elements, relies on plot and logic. And when something doesn't make logical sense, that isn't in respect to our world or our choices, it's within the context of the movie. And that is the truth. That is the only truth, and truth is all there is. You know, like that, there's your relevant tie-in theme. By the way, that theme, like, what a horrifically badly established and supported theme. Yeah. Like, thematically, Wonder Woman 84 is a mess as well. Well, a lot of them are thematically as well. We usually have a message just fucking at odds with every event. And then it's oftentimes a message you'll be like, huh? Why would... No. Truth is all there is, and truth is beautiful. You're like, truth is not always beautiful, my dude. No. That's why we call it the ugly truth. Yes. Say hello to the starving kid in Africa. Your truth is beautiful. Oh, here we go. Oof. This should have remained in the drafts when your rape is subjective. We got it. Super rape is subjective. Oh. It is subjective. And so there it is. That sounds like someone... That sounds like someone up in court, sunshine. Yeah, I was about to say, that sounds like something someone in court would say when they're about to be convicted of rape. Can you please consider where my heart was? Right before they're found guilty of rape, they say, rape is subjective. I just pretended it wasn't rape and think about it again. Consider where my heart was. That's all I want. Let's do this trial again. And this time, maybe imagine it wasn't rape and see how you feel. Exactly. Oh, that was the next argument. And so, yeah, so that video was made by Madvocat. There's a link in the description to his channel as well as that video. Good stuff. Very good. Yeah, I think it's well edited, well scripted. Plenty of interesting points. I'm totally fine with the tone of delivery, by the way. I know a lot of people are like, ah, it's been monotone. It's like, yeah, well, I mean, these are all styles. Like, YMS is probably the most well-known, most popular person who delivers a lot of things in the sort of same tone. I don't know if this is something that he's maintained or not, but yeah, worth checking out, I think. Give it the old shot. I think you might still be in chat. I'm not 100% sure, but I enjoyed it. And it's fun to see other people doing responses to that particular video, because that's probably High Top's worst video. I'm not sure if there isn't. This is one that beats it. That one is pretty bad. Let's talk about the lack of Asian boy talk. But apart from that, yeah. Yeah, how did High Top move past that issue? It's amazing. Because it made him feel great. Made him all gooey inside. So, at least it didn't make the Asian boy gooey inside. Now that we've gotten our intro sorted, I can ask a question, right? So, we're about to go down a different path now. That was like Section A of this eFap. Okay, welcome to Section B. Did you feel we kind of did or did not steal that video and use it for entertainment on our own stream? I feel like we added enough to it. I feel like we used it as a great discussion starter and we used it to talk about all kinds of things and we agreed with his point, got him some exposure. We hopefully helped him out get more views and stuff. And we show how much we appreciate the arguments he made. Some people already know. Some people in chat already know exactly where I'll be going with this, but we're on a journey, okay? Everyone knows things but me. So, yeah, so my argument would be it's a spotlight for creator to try and send people their way. I've done my best to try and with you guys show what their strengths are and then why we found it engaging as well as trying to pinpoint actually things that they did well as well as boost off of points in terms of being like, you know, that's a good point, expand and then a few tangents here and our coverage of the video was an hour and a half, I think. Wow. It's a 16 minute video. So, total coverage do you think? Basically theft. If someone was going to have a ratio, I feel like we would have satisfied the ratio. That would be my guess. Yeah, I think so. And so, we're going to go on a little bit of a different journey now. I feel really this is going to be really hard to segue because this is a completely different mode that we're going to be on now instead of the one we were just on. That is it for that section, okay? So, you guys may have heard there's a little controversy in relation to covering other content creators content. They can be different, different eras of time and different. For the most part, I like to think we've kind of grown out of that as years have gone on. Oh, doesn't feel like it used to be like. Wish you were right, Rags. I know it happens, but I feel like it used to be more commonplace that that would be a thing. Well, that people would take an issue with. Why don't we start nearer to where that sort of came to a head? I'm just going to play a minute of... So, I don't know whether to explain the actual context of this thing happening or just show the video first. They basically like... So, so many people know where I'm going with this, but we're doing this for people who have no context, okay? So, anyone who jumps to the payoffs like, chill out, we'll be fine. So, anybody here here have a channel called Jack's Films? Yes. Yeah, yeah, that sounds familiar. I'm not overly familiar. I just know, well, I know. I know the name. Chunks about this because of the fact that this thing happened, but he has a series called Your Grammar Sucks. It's like, I think it's songs he makes. The lyrics are made from bad comments online, meaning like bad mistakes in spelling or grammar. Usually pretty fun. So, and play a little bit of this one. So, you guys get an idea of what kind of video it is. Your Grammar Sucks number 99. That's almost 100. No, really. That's almost 100. Better make it good. So, you get the idea. Yeah, I get the idea. I think it's from one of those. It's pretty neat. There's some, a commonality I think with a lot of them is people will spell rapping as raping. And so it makes for very, lots of really funny examples of just, and yeah, so the way it would work is you'd see these and then wherever you are on the internet, if you spot one of these, you'd send them to him and then you compile them and make a song. Pretty neat. That's a good idea. I like it. Yeah, just some fun. And again, if anyone who's listening is interested in actually finding these videos as Your Grammar Sucks then it's by Jack's Films. Now, once upon a time, and I forget when this all happened, but do you guys know of a channel called, I think it was Jinx Reacts? No. Yeah, I do remember. You'll know what's about to happen next then. So basically, good old Jinx would watch videos and react to them. Nice idea for a channel. We kind of do that with different things here and there. We've known to do that here and there. We've been known to dabble. But there are, of course, someone out there would have made the argument at some point, well, hey, hypothetically, what if you just sort of smile and whatever? Do you think that's ethical? And you'd probably be like, what do you mean just? Why would anyone do that? You'd obviously comment. You'd say what you think, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you critique or you'd elaborate or you'd offer some level of insight or commentary, you know? There's so many options you have. That's why I pause so much. Yeah, I mean, so this is the thing. It's a part of it. EFAP's inception. It's not just that we always want to hear all the arguments. It's also that I would like to transform it into new content. So many can't get just by watching their video. Of course, that's part of the idea. The Jinx got really popular really quickly at one point and people were not getting happy about it. And he reacted to this very video. And this, oh no. Oh, I was like snatching me quiet. Oh, which means God. Oh, wait, hang on. He's doing a Tism. Oh, I'm scared. It's all right. I'm missing one link, but I can get it in a sec. You guys don't panic. Okay. I would not do that. I'm hyperventilating. Oh my God. I don't even know what the plan is, but it's falling apart. You know what's funny about this is myself. I want to show all of this and I kind of intend to because it's so good for the point he's making. But I don't actually know if we'll be okay to show all of it really. I don't think they won't be a problem with copyright. You guys can decide. This video is called, it's by Jack's Films. And it's called Reacting to an Awful React Channel. So you haven't seen Jinx yet, Rags. But you will. I've never seen Jinx. He made his video reacting to that video we just saw. And now Jack's film is making a video reacting to him reacting to his video. Hey guys, it's me Jack. Today we're going to react to a really cool YouTuber. Name Jinx. Here we go. I'm really going nuts over this one. Okay. Okay. Your grammar sucks number 99. It's like window in the window. It's almost 100. No, really. That's almost 100. I guess I already know what's happening now. I've read your comments for four years now. I'm almost done. Every single one. And it's a damn shame. Gotta end the game. And the only one to blame is me. You got to finish better. Go out strong. So with just this, I think I'm just starting to understand the point. That might be getting crossed here. It's amazing already because it's just like, oh, okay. I see. Again, I'm going to try and push us through a lot of this just so you can understand the magnitude. Okay. Okay. Oh, there's a lot of nut in here. I see that need to talk over this. You're like, this is unacceptable. Say something. Do something. Like I want to poke you to make sure you're still okay. He just teeters over and he falls over. He's kind of, he's kind of vibing. That's something, right? He's too tired from setting up his new apartment. He doesn't want to unload all the furniture yet. He's just had a long day. He'll do it later. He just put the mattress on the floor for tonight. He's just got a crash. A little reaction video. A little bit of reaction before bed, you know. No, I could believe that he has the energy to upload a reaction video like this before he goes to bed. Absolutely. Yeah, man. He's grinding. He's getting them videos out. Yeah, he's working hard. He's really working hard for the money. Working man. There you go. He's laughing. He's reacting. Diabetes. Diabetes. That is hard to say, changing. I hate this. Even if he's touching his mouth now. Evelyn asking, you could at least pause to be like, what's working about this? What's making you laugh? Why are you laughing? Think about me, just think about me while I'm streaming and I'm not saying something for like three minutes Actually, I need to say something like I can't just I can't just sit here and play the game and say nothing Like I don't want to come across as a freeloader cheapskate no talent loser I got I got to do something here just bizarre because I'm playing the game currently and people can see the game still and that's Like content I'm creating but I'm not saying anything and people can see my face. I'm just like I'm streaming This is content This is content. Oh, there's content. It's funny I am this cracker food and this is content. I just get amused infinitely that he's maintaining that smile Keeping a straight face He's breaking well, it's actually hard to maintain a face like that Well, why not this this other guy this jinx guy's doing it Yeah, you're right. He's had lots of practice maybe I don't know normally does this but Once That is so cleaver by the way the the font on what he's reading are these like super old or Yeah, the the font of the way And the names below the comments Yeah, for reference this video was made in 2015 And so the the yo grandma sucks one was probably made in My guess is probably early 2015. I don't know. So then and then comments were coming from all over the place As well as older youtube I could also imagine there's like some coming from like What's this website called way back machine or something where I can find like archives web archive websites Yeah, yeah, yeah And maybe there's like oh wait. That was like a funny comment. That's not there anymore I'm just gonna check that and maybe they send something like this. We already contributed better than this jinx guy That I had to fight like the way he masturbutes Masturbutes What is the word? He's got a word. He said a word. Well, see that's the thing you could at least talk about it, but he's just going Me asking how old these comments were has been more than he's done. Yeah more chunks now. It's just me It's just asking a natural question. I feel like these look old Like that that person has had theoretically Years and years to learn how to spell masturbute One if can do it by now So I'm I'm impressed at the ability to Speak incorrectly Yeah, which might sound very unusual, but it's often more It's often easier to speak properly incorrectly because I'm used to it. Yeah Purposefully, yeah Yeah, you're where your brain will try and make it correct because you speak so naturally and you've done it for so long in your life Yeah, there's gotta be a lot of practice that goes into Purposefully miss speaking all of these words without your brain Automatically making it the right word like it quote unquote should be Isn't that this text somewhere that has like the the first and last letter or the correct ones and the other ones are scrambled Yeah, and you can read the whole text without yeah Your brain will take over and yeah, and it'll start to formulate the word I gotta I gotta say though delving into a bit of dsp law now I know deep law. I just every time I just see jinx's face. I piss myself because almighty tevin When he was when he used to restream dsp He would he would yeah He used to restrain dsp And he would get um the jinx face like a jinx face like this and he just put it on his screen to look like he was reacting to Well, I mean I was gonna say um I would play it all we'll get to I think the song itself is about five minutes So you can imagine what you just saw you see it again, and then we'll see this. Yeah, I get I get the gist Our jinx is he's been hard reacting to this he's getting tired. Yeah, man. I wish I had a real bed in my flat There's a lot of raping going on there We got a noise out of him. Oh god. He's still got that smile too jack. Nice Looks like he wants to yeah, no jack's doing all right. He's trying I will say he likes his v-necks. I've noticed there's a I see a trend here. He likes he doesn't like them They are they give him the the snug hold that he prefers. I feel just a little a little room in front Hmm So now it's time Yeah, like he that feels like an obligatory. Oh, yeah, that's right. I should do something here Well, are you ready for oceans of insight racks? I am because well, here's the thing. Oh, oh no, he's doing the thing or his modem's on the floor I guess he just moved in it's fine, but you've got Like like black black bangs like he's just murdered somebody We've got some disinfectant and shit and he's halfway do wrapping the body but or raping the bad I'm not too sure which one's a gratically correct now Um, but uh, you know, it kind of looks like maybe you thought oh shit. I better stop wrapping this dead body and Do a quick reaction It feels weird seeing a sink behind a vlogging video, but you know, it's a style It does feel alive this maybe this is uh, maybe he's in a studio, you know, it's kind of all in one Yeah behind that with people Yeah, absolutely for some people not for everyone else Um, but I think that he was quiet during the whole thing didn't do much because he was gathering his thoughts He was charging his spirit bomb. Absolutely. Yeah, we're going to get a face load of his insight. It's gonna be great I'm ready. I'm ready. Put that inside all over me Okay Four years in county He's been doing this for four years And people are still on his channel like fucking up the grammar So first of all they sent to him, right? Yeah, secondly Pointing out that people have shitty grammars not gonna stop them The people from having shitty grammar in general like even on his channel. It's not gonna happen The video I've been commenting on all his channel for four years now. I really should clean up my grammar Next film said to send take a screenshot and send it to me and he wasn't even listening Really really well if you weren't adding to it or interacting with it in any way Yeah, you'd think but he's wondering could he cut the arms off the person in the room behind him or the leg His mind is at other places. Yeah, he's just like thinking which would I get blood splotcher on the wall? I'm gonna have to be recording that. Maybe. Yeah, this is just something for another time I got some Lenore instead of bleach as i'm a bit pissed off right now, you know It's been so long like no lie if people were like What am I looking for if people were on my page And I was doing what he does the grammar songs and people were still fucking up Well, let me put it like it's like I don't know you say like a lot, but you rarely compare two things. He's also He didn't edit this. He's he's not kind of any of his huge gaps or nothing This is like this is just soul food I don't think you have to but at the same time man, you just took his whole video. Maybe like Clean up your half of the video, you know, just put a little Yeah, at least try to you know present yourself like you did something And he just kept calling me out on my grammar and all his songs I would not like dude, I would start proofreading before I comment on his shit Because obviously he's watching And you just keep getting called out as so what's funny is the Honestly the next level take would be wouldn't you start generating funny things wrong on purpose? To get him to put them in the video almost that is the more likely result of this happening But no, he's like hey if you watch this channel your grammar should improve because you wouldn't want to post something bad that ends up in a video Would you? Maybe it's depressing. I wonder if jacks Thinks that's depressing that he'll never run out of this style of content. No What the stop please So, you know after somebody calls you a dumbass like a hundred times It's it's probably true that you're a dumbass Such a quote Wow This I was right in this I mean, this is pretty insightful If someone calls you a dumbass 500 times You did it Probably a dumbass that is a bill boat quote right there That's what a quill boat Yeah, oh Shit four years in this set it's still going It was amazing his main commentary so far is it's been four years And there are still people who are wrong on the internet with grammar and spelling. You're like, yes That yeah, yeah I yeah Oh, excuse me. That's that was funny as hell Dude, he really like saved all of those comments. That is Yeah, that's what happens when you make actual content Yeah He's probably got millions and I'm just like, I know he gets like thousands of comments on each video and he really finds you He was literally said them He said it in his video. You weren't listening. You should have been listening. You weren't saying anything Honey back there for god's sake leave the man alone I assume it's not what that's a boil the head or to fucking rape it. I it's all over the place Okay It leaves your shit and then talk shit about you on your video and people just continue to Talk without proper grammar People continue to talk without proper grammar Proper grammar Gabbra If you're on his videos Just Talk type properly Oh Guy to do a motivational speech So inspired by this man Too deep for me. I don't get on a sand Anyone can happen to the audience. How do you keep the smile without just fucking laughing or giving up at this point of this? Jack is a talented man, you know Thank you I don't care what your grammar I disagree. I I advocate for high standards in speech I think you could constantly strike improve. Yeah, you know be like that like because I don't really trip because like I know when I'm texting or writing comments I don't really be paying attention to everybody I don't really be paying attention. I can tell jigs like You'll you you a low effort throughout your whole life. Let's just the Talk to me. Oh, wait, can I do it? No Shock me now this shocks me You're writing comments, you know, this ain't English class. So I know what I want you to I just be English class never ended Imagine thinking to yourself It's okay if they watch my whole video if they've got like a you know an extensive review of some kind if they really want You know, but what this is it. He's talking about how, you know, sometimes it's all right to just be shit with grammar Yeah, sometimes you're in there, you know How many views did this jinx video get by the way? I think this was the one so we'll actually once we finish this one We'll get into um the matter of all of this But if they tell what I'm trying to say Then I'll know I'm gonna go and have a pee Yeah, so It was dope though. It's a dope ass rap Like that's where it's funny and shit wasn't all rap really was a dope ass rap Dope ass rape. Yeah Yeah, let's warm out this warm out. It was a tough one Yeah I got some stuff to do But anyway, I think we're at about 900 he's gotta react to this empty room Hold on one second. Oh, yes. He's he's at 940. You think of putting a k on the end of whenever he uses those numbers That's where he's at jinx at this point 940,000 subscribers. Holy fuck. How exactly rags. Well, we're almost there Give me a second We are at 43 subscribers and over 200k views. So like I said man when we hit like 980 or 990 subscribers I'll send out a I'll put out a q&a video Let all you guys ask your questions. I'll say I don't know about you guys I am desperate to find out more about this man. He's so interesting. I mean, there must be more There must be more And then I'll do the q&a video so I think that's gonna be pretty fun I know I know some of y'all are saying like do a long ass reaction video, but no, it's like this Yeah, these really take out of you. Yeah, tired. Oh, this where is she down man? The the daily grind This is what they're talking about when they When they when they talk about that grind and then there's a nine five Gotta make that page gotta pay the rent, you know We're reacting to a reaction of a reaction in there. So I can see you don't have to work Does that mean we're doing like triple the grind he's doing then, right? But I guess so easily so whatever he compliments himself is doing we're doing even more Like a barista barista barista is our male baristas called baristas are like a barista barista Do not know I don't know either I think Like super long extremely long it takes forever to upload like hours Oh Because I still you know, like when I when I'm on a computer uploading that's basically my free time And you know, like so my free time only get out as many fucking incredible Absolutely incredible. Listen to this. Wow Fucking amazing And like when I'm uploading to youtube I can't like while it's coming out of my iMovie I can't do anything in iMovie. So I wouldn't be able to be making videos So I'll just be basically a sitting duck waiting to upload this one video and then on youtube That shit will take even longer than the iMovie. So it's just But it's like But that's because anyone who's ever uploaded it youtube is like, okay, if you're making a really long project that's high um, you know high definition 60 frames per second and editing is that yeah, that'll take a long time But this shit Like this is what 720 max Maybe 30 fps. Maybe he's on like a really shit laptop, which I don't understand because Fucking million subscribers hundreds of thousands of views for every video. He's pumping them out three per day because Yeah, man, if it's your job Then you think you'd want to invest a little bit into your job and stuff It's literally tax deductible if you buy a new laptop that you use for your job You can put that on your taxes. That's a work expense, man What don't I miss? I miss I feel as if I miss him. He's now talking about how difficult it is to do his job I'm just imagining all the time and effort it takes for jack's films to take all the Yeah, yeah, that's hard work everyone Take every image save it not mix them up by accident So he probably titles them a certain way like one two three four five, etc Put them in the timeline individual each one put them in the spot And like that alone isn't difficult But however for the amount that there is the tedium of having to do that the stuff people don't appreciate when they want Yeah, that that takes a lot of time. I thought it's what jinx is jinx is Work is hard Hey, well, he sat down. This is one take this is it took his videos 11 minutes and 46 seconds It took him 11 minutes and 46 seconds to make this video Yeah, a lot of time and the uh, then he put yeah, they just yeah put it into the editing software and just Rendered it. I'm I don't even think oh, I don't even think he had to render it. Well, so Because he just this is just he's gonna just upload the file I'm not familiar with iMovie, but he was saying that it went from iMovie to youtube directly Yeah, like there's probably integration or I guess yeah, maybe it's in the software itself or something Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's like Yeah, it's a direct upload you just record it and then boom post to youtube And your account is linked so it knows where to post it. You don't edit it It doesn't have to change file formats or render like it doesn't start in a vegas format or anything like that for size constraints So you do have to render it still though. It's still have There's an effort there potentially Oh Certainly not these days he might have you know, he might have created more work than he needed because he's you know I think this was all one take I think that's true, but who knows if he actually It came in I don't want to fucking speck. He's a really really bad youtuber like one of the worst is the point Yeah um livestream I don't know about that one. I would but it like it's not like I got like 10,000 subscribers I played to jack's looking at me Like a dog's nose wait. Sorry. What did you say then? I missed that jack jack's face is twitching like a dog's nose Hey, he's almost made it like it's not like I got like 10,000 subscribers. That'd be like three of us sitting here talking to each other so go with Q&A video so everybody's he's he's at 1.6 million subs jinx at this point Wow Anybody want to know some facts about me? Just ask. Um, I guarantee you I'm gonna answer Where did you end up dumping the body? Need to know Detective flanigan from detroit, please You know, but yeah, whatever, um Yo jinx that was a dope ass video man. That was just I really like the part where you played my video in its entirety And then didn't really react to it just kind of I also like the part where you added virtually no insight. You just kind of rambled on for about Missed the point entirely The entire video in your channel. It's like it's a one-stop shop Why bother going to my channel to watch that video when you can just watch that and your reaction So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna start reacting to your videos, but I'll just show your videos in their entirety That way at my one-stop shop people don't even have to go to your channel They can just go to mine for your videos and then my reaction sound good. God bless Yeah Yeah, so um, this became quite a problem. He wasn't the only channel. There was loads of people just doing this where they They barely react. They play the whole video and then they go. Yeah, bye So it's like you you're just stealing the videos all you've done and for some reason it works Do people just react to tv shows and they'll say basically nothing and they'll get a gajillion dollars for it Yes, there are there are planning examples of that as well And so of course, um, it's really disappointing from an audience tab But it's like guys we do it. Why are you subscribed to these people? Why aren't you just watching the videos they they're watching? Why are you watching them? Watch it when they don't even react. I don't know. I don't I don't even see what the appeal is but Uh, after jack did this and iDubbbz did a video on jinx. It you got slaughtered. Um, Yeah I don't think I've seen that when was that uh five years ago. Yeah, it's an old oldy, but a goody Um, and so jinx himself. He's still doing this. I think He's getting like two to three thousand Yeah, this channel killed Absolutely killed. I think he switched up his content. I don't know what he's doing now. Um Yeah, do content now Well, he's about 15 seconds long each now. Um Sometimes going up to as much as 30 seconds by the looks of it His his newest video is called have you ever loved anime and tattoos? It's 25 seconds long I feel like So Yeah, uh, it didn't work out and he got killed as a genre which I love by the way. Fuck that genre It's not even a genre. Just stealing shit. Fuck you And about anime and tattoos you got 25 seconds go Well, I mean, I'm sure he nailed it. He's so insightful How could you expect him to talk about anime and tattoos for over the 25 seconds? Turn to chris. He'll save you. He is a great redeemer. So there's something something I'd sub Q&A and they was me thinking that's where it died and we were done. No more of this shit However, the it was it was one of those dormant evils. It just went away for a bit And it's trying to make its way back. No, I think I've been done with this website youtube nine seconds long Yeah, I don't know it's it's fun to see uh jack have the smile throughout the whole thing and then just It's the hard cuts to him just shitting all over drinks. Uh, there's the payoff because we were all thinking it, you know So yeah, so there's uh, you guys may be aware again We're getting close to the realms of the present now and you'll know these names as I say them. You remember pokemane, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm only familiar with her. I've never seen her content or anything. I just Like a streamer. Yes twitch streamer. Um, she's possible. Is she the most popular female streamer on the platform now? Is this at some point? I don't know Yeah, I Um So we'll get a little bit of a of a look see if she got into a controversy I want to say a couple months ago. Maybe half a year at this point. I really can't remember time is a complicated beast Um, and she got criticized for a lot of things the main one The main one was um, she was copyright striking people for uh Making compilations of his streams. I think was was that I don't want to oh, yeah. Yeah, remember that I remember this wrong, but we're gonna watch. No, I think I think She um, she struck Pewdiepie didn't she did she fucking hell? Yeah, she struck Pewdiepie for uh, either reacting to a Right. Yeah. Yeah. You're a bit in her video or something and that got her massive don't go against the nine-year-old army for fuck's sake He will slaughter you 19. Sorry 19 years old. I mean, I guess Oh, also, I will warn you If I could get in some trouble for criticizing pokeman. This is she's quite a she's beloved. Oh, he's absolutely But anyway, so for those who are confused, this is um a channel called diesel patches He's done a video about her around about the time and I've just got we've got a little five second five minute chunk Sorry, uh, that gives you an idea of why I'm bringing this up and we can talk a bit about the pieces So with that in mind, let's start the first section So this is a video specifically about pokeman And I guess I shouldn't see this could just wait a couple of like a minute. I have to go toilet you You know what that sounds like a good Uh opportunity for me to also go And I'll be back in a little bit. Oh Yeah, well, he I figure while he's gone. I'll go too. All right because we got us Anyway, this is my window bargain wait. We could tag team it So anyway, how you doing for me? I isn't this an interesting journey into the world of not making content at all Well, I remember the the jinx stuff I remember when that was because that was like 2014 2015. I remember that like there was a whole The guy had everything to the video on like all of the sort of react channels and how It was just the same thing sitting there watching not saying anything that occasionally going And then more silence and then I was uh, that was pretty funny. Anyway, like and subscribe. I'll see you next time Because the the happy good place it spawned from was that people do enjoy it when say for example You you found a joke really funny in a movie Whatever like I think it was people like watching us laugh at moulin the original like all the jokes in it They were like, oh, it's actually fun to watch them Be told a joke and laugh at the joke You know, it's rare that that happens on eFab at all and it's just it was nice to see and this is like Yeah, um, unfortunately, it's been like I don't even know how to put it like it's been it's been Factor it fact. What's wrong with what am I looking for like, um Factory made in the they know they have to drop a laugh in x amount of time and then just cover everything And that should probably win you out. It's like the easiest way to do it Um, which is yeah a huge Perversion of what people were actually looking for but the thing is, you know audience members that are just surfing through the internet They they might not even be able to tell the difference. They're just like, uh, yeah, I like this Your grandma sucks video. I'll watch this random guy react to it and then he goes, huh That was funny Yeah If you're looking for that reaction, then I guess you got it plus the content itself and the reality is That the the traffic through to the original thing is minimal Very tiny. That's that's the reality. You're not You're not Yeah, it's it's just it's not helping. Um, in fact, it's actively detrimental to the youtuber in question It certainly can be yeah So the next chapter here and it all makes sense is um diesel patches covering pokeman's the criticisms of your content Pookie menstrual cramps Is very similar to sniper wolves and azulans All three of them are aware that because they are attractive enough They don't really need to try. I mean, holy shit. I put more effort into my content than they do And I only use iMovie as my editing software. Oh my god Oh my god, I haven't heard iMovie as a thing in Ages if ever and I hear it twice back to back I'd never heard of what iMovie before. I still don't know what iMovie is. I don't know if it's a Like browser base or software programs Oh Goggled it I see movie maker. Yeah Much like commentators she will use other content to make her own content But the problem is she doesn't add anything new to the other content It's just essentially her looking cute in front of the camera I tuned into one of her streams and the first 20 minutes is just her trying to adjust the quality of the live stream I really like the other camera. And I don't know why it keeps overheating go boom Stop I still feel like it's really really sharp playlist as well Yeah, so they'll have non-copyright song playlist in the background that also really helps out obviously with The ambience of the the stream itself people can just listen to music when you're not doing anything Streaming as a beast is is complicated. We're gonna talk all about that as soon as we get through a bit more of this And then out of nowhere it just ends after she gives up. I just don't see how For 20 minutes is considered content her reaction videos I shit you not are just as bad actually none I think about it her filling with a camera provides more entertainment than her sexy kawaii reactions because at least I'm not Cringing all right. Let's take a look at this video Imagine filming a fortnight season reaction video and the police comes into your house I don't get the joke Is this like a common thing in her videos the police interrupt her or something I went back to her old videos and I didn't see anything related to that Or maybe the police actually did come and she came into your house and you just Well, because I think the immediate assumption is it was staged, but then why? Yeah, I think She's just not bright I I'm with the commentators like why what? Yeah, the police just come into your house. Did they have a warrant? They can't come into your house without a warrant. Was it a swat? Did they have a warrant for you to Investigate are you on what you didn't say is a swatting? Yeah, and you'd think like why wouldn't you just cut it and it's like imagine doing that when you're trying to record a reaction Like You have legal things to deal with if the police say yeah into your house Like are there if they came in your house, they're there they're there to arrest you or Investigate the premises for illegal activity. They have they've been given a warrant by a judge But okay, how long is this video? Oh, no it makes sense gotta eat up that time somehow Oh cute not gonna lie. Catman has grown on me. Okay pop off queen flex it Oh, I really like hot dog man because I'm kind of hungry. Wait, are they gonna let us do stuff like this? There's no way they would show this for this long without letting us do it, right? I haven't laughed yet. I don't see how I see this is your first day in video games. This is I'm assuming that's cut to include her common tree. That is her common tree That's not you know the parts where she's just watching it and stuff. She's like, I guess it's better than jinx She's expressing herself I think there's more words anyway more different words. I should say as well. Yeah content. I don't know. Maybe the video picks up later on Oh my god, give me a battle pass. You can design new checkies I like that the freaking Thor vibes. I know he's like aquaman and Thor isn't like watery, but you see it, right? The only thing I see is a video. I have no idea how people like this You know, I'm very entertained right now. This is this is good content right here It's just her making cute noises and telling you exactly what's happening in the video The only opinions that she gives out are what she thinks of the new skins Who gives a I know other people make this gonna be someone out there who is desperate to know what pokemon thinks the new skins I will say. Yeah, but all she'll say is It's cute to talk about like the actual design philosophy or anything like that because That's that's like a specific skill that you would have to You can't get me to shut up about design philosophy on skins. Some of them bug me to no end I've heard your comment. You just say so cute So cute. No, like, okay No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I play a lot of apex legends Okay, I like that game Don't give him a single dollar people that company's a fucking halfway scam But the game itself is good play a lot of apex legends and there's a character named bengalore And she's supposed to be like a veteran soldier and constantly on her fucking skins This veteran soldier has big ol like smoke grenades or flashbangs or big-ass pouches On her right shoulder where she damn well knows She has to keep shouldering rifles in order to be effective in combat and it bugs the fuck out of me And I don't know why people do it I don't know why people do it But the people who design these skins, they don't give a shit and it bugs me and if I was in charge things would be different There'd be some changes around here. Oh, no I mean, I would say like the broader issue with because there's a whole conversation right skins being like the death of art styles Like it's there is no Attempt anymore to make them consistent with the world It's just crazy Just stuff it's think stuff think look colorful jelly man cat think stuff colors Yeah, and I mean that's probably the reason why fortnite was so successful is it's like this amalgamation of pop culture Just everything gets thrown in all at once, but there is no consistent style Yeah a character in apex legends lifeline and she's supposed to be a combat medic But there's like no skins of hers that would lead you to believe that she is a combat medic She goes into battle with the tank top on and like I don't what about you as a combat medic Right like push back on societal norms They have a skin called first responder for her But there's nothing in any way related to medicine or emergency medical services She's dressed in like leather and there's spikes on it And she has a bandana and the colors aren't even like ems colors And it doesn't make any fucking sense because they just say oh here here's the thing. We'll just call it first responder Fuck it Why don't they just they could have had a even something like a florin's nightingale skin for her that would have still made more sense They have like demon skins for her and devil skins and stuff like that, but there's no skins She's a combat medic So you think that she'd have a little bit of armor maybe and she'd have like a big You know a cross or something on a helmet that she would look like like an actual combat medic But like none of her skins are no one gives a shit and I I feel like I'm alone on this little island In this big sea of And I'm the only person who cares about these things that I feel as a designer You should be concerned of like we got this character who has this definitive role And backstory maybe some of her like skins Could have something to do with that backstory or could in some way explain what her role is or be useful It was like nah, fuck it rags. Who owns respawn? Yeah Exactly respawn makes all the creative decisions It's it's respawn's fault. Who owns respawn It's not no it's not ea's fault. It's respawn's fault. They're the ones doing it Well, could it go literally down to the artist or is it gonna be down to I mean everyone's who are doing it I mean somebody wanted that first respond to the thing to look that way, right or The the person who did the skin. Yeah, well whoever's to blame Fuck you Do do better as falcon would say You need to do better Even though I've just said moments ago that I have no clue how to do it myself Or what are you guys being naive? No, fuck off with this attitude that everything is the publisher's fault Fucking stop quit it stop letting developers off the hook all the time Constantly for everything because ooh the publishers electronic arts. I don't care developers are making the game. They're creating the skins They're doing basically everything Here's the here's the super awkward part for respawn Apparently they have a lot of autonomy within ea Unlike dice or other studios like bio where they actually have a lot of autonomy over their projects. So Hmm, they chose to release titanfall 2 between battlefield 1 and call of duty. That was their choice Oh, that's a dumbest thing to have it. It was a terrible decision that has No clue what he's pulling through their head when they did that It's a great game titanfall 2 is a great game Imagine making that game with all the care and craftsmanship and Design that you did and then some asshole Says, all right, what we're gonna do now that the game's done. We're gonna release this between This year's battlefield game and this year's call of duty game. I know There were two weeks apart and It's so fucking stupid I never I never played titanfall 2 up until like I think like a year ago or so Probably was people kept recommending it to me. It was like, yeah, I'll check it out And then I played to single players like man, this is fucking great. Yeah I wish I would have had that when it came out when there was a player base and now Now when I went I went online for multiplayer like once and I got fucking annihilated because I had no idea what was happening It's like I doesn't know why Well, I mean, yeah, that's On this subject though, I go ahead actually finish the point because the only players at that time There was before it came to steam like I got for like a couple of bucks on on ea origin. I think it was what called Uh, it's like, oh, that's great. Then I went multiplayer and obviously all the people who have been playing this for Years and years probably were playing online and I was just like getting fucking Crushed I got bodied Yeah, probably not gonna learn this so I was just gonna stop But yeah, the game is great. So yeah, I wish that's a really great know about this when it came out It's it's a great game that was sort of Seriously hurt in terms of its sales and probably means that there'll never be a time for three because of a bad decision by the developers and and this is like You know, we all like to talk about how much ea sucks and ea sucks are a shit company But like it's not ea's fault. For instance that bio where spent five years in pre-production on anthem That wasn't ea's fault. It wasn't ea's decision to write. I'm sorry. My face is tired from dealing with everything That wasn't an ea mandate Like it's not At some point like there were a bit where it was falling apart though. It was losing He was losing all the big people and uh, jesus christ that anthem anthem is the biggest Disaster of modern fucking gaming. It's got to be Five years for coming up with nothing. I feel like halo the mastership collection probably still has the Like the worst cyberpunk Well, at least at least That's based off halo games that were made and were good Yeah, but um, I guess what we're talking about like the worst launches ever I'm thinking yeah, like in the original at least than on original. I you know Yeah, it was because it came out first for the consoles and then it eventually made a team That's right, but on consoles it wasn't playable and multiple about five months Yeah Competition though. Yeah, we got was all out with something shit cyberpunk 2077 there is there is some Yeah, there is some competition. It's definitely up with one of them. Let's say top five Mm-hmm I yeah for me when it comes to video game failures. It's the cyberpunk is continually just comes to mind so much Um phenomenal that that launch. It's crazy. It's kind of crazy Kind of destroyed city project reds reputation, which was like kind of the main thing that they had going for them um Theo just mentioned dark souls pc port launch was absolutely abominable Unplayable without the mod to fix it, but am I correct in saying the dcs fix came out the same day the guy was like a legend Getting it done. Yeah, like the same like very shortly after like it was super quick And this is the thing the game was so known to be broken that it's like, oh if I get it It's like, yeah, make sure you get ds fix It's like almost to the point where people wouldn't tell you because they'd assume you know It's like you get ds fix everyone. Let's go to do it Someone's reminding me no man's sky. That was the devs All right, no one scam Well, well they they came through right they did they actually did it's well no No, they came through after they uh scammed Millions of people out of their money Then once they got those millions of people's money and they and they all left the fucking game Then they built themselves a game off their money So now it's just uh, you know, it's it's got a much more compact audience But there was a there's millions of people that got scammed out of their cash from that game They they had no further Incentive to spend another year and a half Developing an update for that game. They already got the money, but they did. I feel like that's worth It's got to be worth something that they actually created They eventually gave the game a way that they promised that they would to me What it says is that they they bit off more than they could chew they wanted to give people X So they they didn't anticipate how much time it would take I think that's what happened. Yeah, I feel like that's one of the the places where we got to be like When do we actually give some form of forgiveness and with that one apparently they're still working on it too. So Um, I think they're big for years at this point They keep updating that If we're saying there's no way to redeem what they did or to be like, oh I mean, I think that's kind of lame because I think like what they did was Exactly the model of what we should hope people would do when they make that mistake, you know Well, if you screw it up, I'd rather encourage people to stay with the game and and fix it Hey, I don't curious to um as have you seen the internet history video about this No, I haven't uh, I would fully recommend it really entertaining He goes from before he basically starts with hello games as inception Then their designs and ideas when they were funded all the way to the horrible launch And then many years after up till now and where they're at. It's it honestly Might change your mind on like hello games in general. I found it really moving Don't don't release the game in a state that you've got it when you know you're lying to an audience Um, well, so the the prevailing theory at this point Is that they really did think that they would have the features prepared by the time the release date hit? But they they didn't No And they released it. Yeah, that's the mistake and then he went on camera and he was talking about yes You'll be able to get your multiplayer and da da da. So I don't know. I I don't have a lot of sympathy for these companies which take the money and retroactively fix their game I understand why you look we fixed it. I don't know why you'd feel that way. The the problem is just that uh There's like so many choices They made a lot of mistakes along the way of like thinking that they could do it in time And then they try to expand timelines and it ended really badly, but uh, they've cut from what I understand the game right now It's like fantastic. Um, I've not played it myself obviously, but like people who are still with it Like this is the game we were promised sort of thing and I just I think it's admirable that they Just kept working for as long as it was needed Uh to make the game that they promised people Um, and of course you could get refunds for no man's sky on day one as far as I knew It's like a historically one of the most refunded games probably Um, but but I guess what I'm just saying is like, uh, I feel like they've done the best They can if the starting point is that they promised x and y was delivered Um Much better than a lot of companies probably would have done which is to be like, yeah, we're done. We'll take the money and just Dissolve the company and make a new one or something Um, I really recommend the video it might change your mind might not No What do you mean? No No, but I I I this guy purposely misled people He purposely misled people Uh, and so he sold the shit out of that game to try and get people to buy it He knew he was putting out a sub par Uh product and he knew that millions of people that bought it would drop out of the game because it wasn't what they Uh intended at all so then to retroactively make the game With the additional money that they've got for a much smaller Player base and then go hey guys, we fixed it No, you fixed off the back of millions of people who'd no longer going to touch your game That's what you did So I don't care if the audience say I've got a bad take on this one. Fuck him. Is that on the people? Fuck hello games, but they didn't come back after it was fixed. Yeah. No, it's not on them at all They they they don't have to have they don't have to come back to a game that wasn't made Uh, you know, however many years it is now But if if you if you for instance were sold on a game And it turned out that it was a scam or whatever it was Um, it wasn't what you were promised and then you learn a year later two years later Hey that game that that you bought and um, you were sold on we actually made it like it was And it's everything that we promised and that's that's done And if the player doesn't come and try it out at that point Do you feel like that's on them? They're not up to the player It's up to the company to deliver what they said they were gonna deliver No, no, no, no I said the player could be off playing a world of warcraft now They could be off playing cyberpunk now. They could be off playing whatever they want now. They could be off video games They could be investing their money in in markets and all this kind of stuff It's not up to that person to retroactively go back and say I wonder how that game's doing now That was on launch That's that's true, but alternatively they kind of can't complain anymore if they're not gonna Like if if you bought it and then they're like, all right, it's fixed now Check it out and you're like no, I'm never gonna like touch it again. Fuck you It's like well, then I sure hope you don't ever talk about like how bad the game is again at this point Especially if it was That's why we're talking that's why I'm answering about the game Well, because so what I'm saying is like I agree that the player doesn't really, you know, if they're like now, fuck I'm not interested anymore. That's cool but like If they fixed it and the game is there for you to play now And they didn't charge you extra for it and you already have it I I'm not sure if I you probably should have refunded it in the first place At that point. I'm curious why you could Because I couldn't get refund. I got it off amazon and I couldn't get refund Yeah, you couldn't get a refund. Yeah, I couldn't get a refund on it. It cost me 50 quid I will say because like amazon um, actually when I was building this pc They sent me a faulty hard drive and uh, I was like and you send me one that works This is all corrupted and broken and stuff and they were like, okay Yeah, we can as long as you send back the one you have and I was like, okay And they they told me to go to a particular location And I gave it to a clerk who was like I was told to give it to another I gave them details I think this is giving it back then amazon three emails were like, we've not received it So you can't have the replacement and I was like, yes, I can I've given it back. It didn't work anyway You're giving me a spare one. They were like, okay And they sent one And so the point there is that amazon actually operate at a loss overall with those transactions But it's ultimately a gain because it keeps customers coming back It's uh, they miss so for example That would be noted on the account as they're giving me a free hard drive when I probably have two now as far as I know I don't But it's worth it because I'm a customer who keeps paying as well as I would spread that amazon are actually really good for the refund I think if you made enough noise, they would absolutely Yeah, but I I can't sit at I can't sit did amazon first and they said they couldn't take it back because it was uh video game software I'm surprised. Honestly. I would have thought they would uh I guess because it is it's not a physical thing that you could send It's a it's a digital thing. They can't they can't like get it back Maybe that's the no I I bought the I bought the the physical game Oh, that's so I bought the disc in the box, but they said they couldn't have it back because it is it's been opened and put into the Console so they couldn't accept it back. But that's I'm not saying that's alone. That's amazon pre-order. No, it's guy Uh, I don't know. I know think so now. I think I bought it on least day Or the I pretty well bought it the day before so it arrived on release day or some shit one of the other I guess um, I guess like to maybe wrap a bow on it like what what are the developers options After having already screwed up. What what do they do? Well, that's up to the developer because we're seeing different we've seen different things because yes Uh, hello games continued on uh no man's scam, but I don't care about that Well, and now we've but we've also seen on uh, anthem that they've just given up on anthem Well, so I guess I guess what I'm asking is like for you. What can they do? Is there anything that they can do to fix it? What if uh, what depends on the game like fallout 76? No, uh, because that was the What about no man's sky with that game? No, no, I'm not I'm not gonna touch that game again What should they do like bring these questions? That's what I'm asking. What what should they do that would make you happy Like do you think it's too late? Maybe maybe not lie to you in the first place. I after they made the mistake. What do they do? But you're saying what uh, how how can I get your trust back after I've completely lost your trust? Yeah, I'm what yeah Well, you are a corporation. You are a company and my first dealing with hello games is to be scammed by you So you can fuck off. No, okay In my respect hello games can just piss off Right, yeah, but if we transpose this to really from that fucking company Let's say somebody Stole something they were caught and they went to prison for the allotted time that they stole the thing Is it like Fuck them sort of thing. It doesn't matter if they serve the time Doesn't matter if they come back out and they're a good citizen. They already stole This is but this is personal to me. This is not a generalized Criminality, that's why I'm curious because I want to draw a line between the developers who ditched the game And the developers who worked their ass off for years trying to make the game the one they promised and they do it all Without charging extra they keep adding the content bond I think We should we should have a different category for those two instead of saying fuck them all if you get what I mean I think it's a personal. I think it's a personal opinion There's some people are going to say fuck them. There's some people are going to say give them a try There's some people that are going to be on the bridge about it. I think it's complete personal decision as to how you want to deal with these companies, uh They had a lot of backing from sony and yeah, it came out like a piece of garbage fall out 76 Uh, Bethesda game it should have come out in in you know So much better state than it did it that was another that was an absolute joke CD project red with cyberpunk 2077 and I'm uh, I was this in cd project red with trust guy And that came out an absolute mitigated disaster Anthem with the backing of ea an absolute omitigated disaster But can they is there any pathway to redemption for Like the no man sky devs for cd project red for Bethesda. Is it just Done over no going back. How you how you are trying to to sell the game Let's take the let's keep using the no man sky example. Okay. Well, he went on tv and he lied Well, so no, but the fundamental thing is after yes, this is after that. Yes So after this right now, I've told you we're going in circles. I've told you I have bought a come I bought a game from a company the company It's the first dealing that I've had with this company and as far as I'm concerned You have uh broken my trust in you as a company. So why would I bother trusting you again? I don't care any going further. I don't care you saying well We're gonna we're gonna work on it behind the scenes even though I fucked you over to get your money It's worked on it's it's been done. It's not a hypothetical at that point Yeah, that's why people see it as proof. I'm not interested. I've told you I'm not interested in dealing with that company anymore because they fucked me over But so there's nothing that they could do nothing that they can do for me They might do something for you. They might do something for rags mohler, but nothing they can do for me because from my Personal dealings with them and that's what matters to me It's your decision. How you handle it. I don't care. I see what you mean It worked on a company by company basis on how they actually Sell their product or how they sell the product that's going to be Released. I don't have to say oh well crats guys, you know over the course of years You took that money which is scammed off people. He made a great game kudos Let's build you a sign across the street From you to say oh how wonderful you are for doing so I don't think it's just the fact that they made a great game is that they didn't have any reason to do it They had the money. They didn't have any Stake and actually doing it what they did of their um of their integrity I would say and out of curiosity if they'd given you a refund day one integrity wouldn't have released that game in that state. Yeah, people make mistakes Yeah, so So what I look for is the redemption part right? I'm the bad guy for getting scammed No, I don't We can leave it we can leave it at that because apparently I'm the bad guy because I gave money to a company a video game That was broken on release because they were promising Plenty of aspects which were never delivered upon not even we know we heard. Yes, we know exactly I have said to you quite clearly Done. I think you're right to be absolutely furious at them and I think everyone was that was like a huge deal The internet was going out so and they they earned all of it. But that's the thing about this This internet historian video that shocked everyone. It's called the enguidening of No Man's Sky he goes through that whole event and he's very much candid about how everyone hated it goes through all the coverage And he's like and then I think the story goes that they went silent And so that just pissed everyone off even more. It's like where the fuck is the content? What are you doing? Turns out all they were doing was working They were just working every single day and then they started releasing patches and the way he explains it Is patch one comes out and everyone's like fuck you like oh patch one good for you patch two comes out and they're like Yeah Carry on making patches. She'll patch seven thousand comes out and they're like, okay You guys are still going years and years on and you've received nothing but Vitriol from everybody and the game is actually coming like they had a checklist I think the dev team of every single thing they promised and they made sure they would take every single box before They would ever stop working on the game And I don't know I like redemption stories quite a bit and I honestly thought After watching that video that I was like, you know The people in that in that studio I think they really made a huge mistake and they're doing everything they can to come back So I was going to say if they'd given you a refund day one the actual devs personally and then they made the game They promised within the next two years Would would that would you feel differently about them? Would you feel the same? Sorry say that last bit again If they gave you a refund on day one personally like they emailed you and said we're sorry the game released out of like It's it's fucked and two years down the line. They say you still got the game. You can still play it You don't have to pay for it. This is our apology. What would you say then? Um, I would probably check it out Okay Well, and that's exactly but that's exactly what square did with final fancy 14 Oh and that came out in 2010 that was an absolute disaster. It was a joke Um, completely broken Um, the combat system was uh, it was an absolute nightmare. It was you know, it was absolutely reviled by people uh, and within a couple of I know I think it's a couple of weeks of that coming out. We got an email from the like the head of square Saying look, we're really sorry. We know that this game is absolutely not how it should be This is not the standard of Uh, what we believe it should be at all. We're going to be working on The game to to try and fix it yada yada yada. We're suspending the um subscription fee with a major effect uh on the game uh, and then they a few weeks later he released another one and then they uh You know, he's another basically another apology email about uh, we're not You know, we're working on yada yada yada, but we realize that we're not going to do it with this team So we're going to get rid of the team and we're going to bring a new team in Uh, then they bring uh, yoshi peeing to the company They try and get him to to fix The game with what they've got He attempts to he does some little bits and bobs and then he says I can't I can't fix this game with what I got I need a new engine. I need this I need that and square Uh gave it to him and then when the game re-released Anyone who had uh purchased final fancy 10 Sorry, your final fancy 14 do big fun. Uh Just got the game for free Just got the game for free. You could just immediately log on to the game uh with 30 days game time or something and uh I think they gave a couple of they gave some like additional rewards as well for uh for purchasing the original And going back you also got Did they uh, I think you could yeah, I think they were offering refunds for them Because that's something 2010. I just didn't say one. Sorry. Okay It's just because like if they didn't offer refunds and it sounds like it's actually almost identical to no man's guide Just that they were more public about having screwed up And it seems like it was more on amazon than hello games in that sense. Yeah, I've said that I said I would agree with you as well like Fuck hello games if they actually like stopped anyone in any way shape or form from getting the refund. Absolutely Um, but from what I knew no man's sky like set records for refunds And the thing like systems had to change to get refunds in place for no man's sky. I think we're different stores Like it's like the fun is overtaken that one. Well, yeah, I think that that happened again Yeah So, I mean if that's if that's the difference I can I can respect that if they like it's like They've stolen money from you and they haven't given it back ever and so You'd hold that against them Um, it might not even be up to them if depending on how amazon handles that sort of thing It literally could be just that they don't have control over that Yeah, um, they might have had a customer support thing you maybe could have contacted regardless I would just all I wanted to say was I would like to draw a line between the devs who give up and run off And the devs who just keep working on the game at no actual personal gain anymore They're not gaining any more money They're just trying to make the game for the people that they promise, which I don't know I just I It gives me a sense reward the good. Yeah, because we're gonna want them to do that in future rather than run off, right? Out of the two choices Well, I mean, I don't want to start going in a sick clear argument But I really just don't give a fuck what hello games do from here on in I don't care about the company But but it would be that like it's preferable that if the two options are fix it or don't that Yeah, the preferable sure. I mean that's always that logic dictates that Yeah, yeah, okay Thanks, but we've seen we've seen what's happened with anthem Well, I'm not And that's a cash and grab that's a cash grab right now They uh, they said that they were gonna retool it into like anthem 2.0 and then they spent a few months and they're like nah We give up Yeah, he's gonna stay as is and I can imagine them in a Within a year probably just saying we're gonna close down the anthem service Yeah, they did not commit like hello games did Certainly not because I'm not familiar with the uh, the anthem story at all like the the meta It's not a story that ea would tell you It is a sad story Um, they're gone now from Bioware. They've they've all gone the whole lot of them All the anthem people have basically. Yeah, they don't think there's think there's might be like one or two left, but They get fine They left at their own accord two other places. Oh, I mean like a lot of them probably I don't know what place we want them Mass Effect right and Dragon Age those like they're two big projects now Um, well, they better do something special than to get mass effect fans back after a dromida Yeah, I think they know that at this point though, so I think they should be lucky they exist Wow, and uh, I'm very concerned about dragon age ball Uh, yeah, I'm not I'm someone said at moley. You're not entitled to forgiveness even if you fix it afterwards I don't think I haven't made a comment about that That's not entitlement. I didn't say anything about that I'm fine with how people feel on this. I'm just giving the way that I Particularly feel you can hate me for it. You can like me for it. You can be indifferent to it It's all the same, but this is the way that I feel about this particular instant You know, I didn't actually mention anything about Forgiveness. I was talking about, um, people trying to redeem their mistakes I find the concept super interesting because a lot of the time I understand where you're coming from I understand what you're trying to say and where do you join the line because obviously if you're just completely Apathetic to all then what's the point even trying? Uh, but uh, you know to me there's a there's a great sense of morality which should go alongside in the first place Yeah, no, um, I completely look when you watch those interviews It is frustrating because they are talking about features. They don't even have And they have to be so head in the clouds to think that they'll be able to get it all in by the time they reach the release date But uh, that's the thing that a lot of the um, the video tries to present that they really did just Get caught up in all of it because they were a tiny dev team, right? They got caught up by I know I know I know Like 15 people and then it was like the most anticipated game of all time. Yeah But that's the whole that he just decided to dig Oh, sure But I mean I can see that as being something that totally got out of control for him like imagine Just like you you're like a little team of 15 people and all of a sudden your game is like more anticipated than like the Witcher 3 it's like dude that's uh oh top Apparently there was a flood at one point as well that wiped a lot of their data and during the um Development cycle this thing um people keep recommending the video. I'm only gonna butcher what the video's points are It's pretty it's like an hour and a half or something He went out of his way to really find out everything he could uh, it's a historian because Um up to that point. I fucking I hated hello games I was like, fuck them. They're like one of the worst dev teams in history that I was like, oh, okay. All right interesting Um So anyway to go back to this video. It was covering pokeman. Uh, yeah, I know I already lost it play Okay, man, okay, man What people in chat say oh madness not saying anything. It's like yeah, it's nothing No matter to triple quadruple all the points Need to say the things again. Oh everyone already said so say the words Who gives it? I know other people make this type of content, but they at least add comedy to it There are two reasons why people watch gaming videos the first reason being the player is very skillful Which automatically counts as entertainment and pookie menstrual cramps isn't really skillful at this game. Well Dude, how come What? And the second reason is for comedic purposes Unfortunately, it's a weird set of two things you get out of why you would watch someone play games comedic or that they're skilled I feel like there's a shit tumble in that right? Yeah. Yeah, there are there are I Bring it up again play abex legends a lot How if I had a dollar for every time I killed someone with ttv in their name And they have no viewers one two There are tons of people who are extremely skilled at that game And all they do is stare at the screen and they don't offer any input Or commentary or insight and they just stare blank faced at the screen and play and nobody gives a fuck about watching them If someone said name the two reasons people watch people play games. I'd be like two Yeah The two main reasons if I was going to have to categorize them, I would say Uh in-game reasons and out of game reasons. Yeah, I guess you can gain reasons being the skill and the stuff that happens in the game Then there's the the streamer themselves and that's the dividing line. Is it the game or is it the person? and then you get to like You follow them because they are funny as in they tell jokes and they have insightful commentary. That's also kind of funny or someone like Uh, what's his name? DSP or um Wings where You're like the funny isn't They're not intending it, but it's funny as fuck. Like it's yeah. Yeah, they are a spectacle There are so many categories for this, but you know, I'm self aware of a company. Yeah. Yeah, they don't know That's what makes it so convenient. I don't know DSP may be having another What's what's he like to call them? It's old fund fundraisers. Is that it fundraisers? Uh, say I need 1500 dollars. Otherwise, I can't pay my mortgage by the end of the week And then getting 900 dollars and then turning up to next stream saying Hey, look guys somebody Out of nowhere just sent me an xbox one x xbox series x Oh Isn't he the guy as well who's like I will stop streaming if you don't donate. It's like oh No, that's uh, what's he called? No, uh, something god. Um Low tier god low tier god. Yeah low tier god. Oh, no, no, no, no, it's not it's um, what's his name? Um Wings of redemption that's the one Uh, it's fucking hilarious DSP is the one who tells off his audience for not for not That's my life. My life is just waking up being fat and getting kicked Whenever I hear his name wings of redemption my brain cannot help but think of chicken wings That is like when you say normally when you hear wings you think, ah, yes, the avian pinion is right But you're totally correct. I also think of chicken wings I think of him. Yeah, I think of chicken wings that have been like fried and doused in sauces I don't think of majestic. I'm making me hungry You know Like the wings of an albatross or an eagle as it soars high above the you know, like a majestic You know avian pinions Yeah, it's like I went through a gas station and bought some wings It's one of those chungus birds that have really tiny wings, but still kind of fly You're like, no like a cartoon bird. Yeah. Yeah I would be like a Pixar film Yeah You know They got them little dinky wings too Somebody jet-wrote Kentucky Fried Redemption Taste some Kentucky Fried Redemption this Saturday A pokemane doesn't suck enough for us to laugh about how bad she is And she's also just straight up unfunny The only entertainment I receive from a pokemane video is from the comment section It really is hilarious how desperate some people can be She looks like someone but I can't quite put my finger on who Tee hee. I'm so quirky. Oh my pants. Uh Oh, it's giving me game of thrones vibes. That's what it is. Literally If we can get that image back She reckons that gives a game of thrones vibes Oh, no, it doesn't does she just see armor and in her mind She's like, oh armor what oh game of thrones has armor I used to has armor That's like game of thrones. I know game of thrones. It does feel that way And this is the thing I don't watch enough of her content to be the conclusive on this but Every one of us hates it when I just hate women Yes, but when you when you also have the person who's like, oh, I fucking love Star Wars the Ah the ships and the Ah man lasers and the Storm trooper guys. Not even that. They're just like all of the like the nazi guys Versus like the cool sort of you know the monks And just sitting there like what what uh, which one's your favorite they go, oh Wrath of car I've read all of them. I read all the newspapers I really like the new one uh rise of skywalk and that's where it was called right and you're like, oh Mandalorian that's that's that's really cool. Yeah, Mandalorians are cool. Yeah, they're they're really cool Wait, uh, they wouldn't call them Mandalorian. No, no, that could be the one name. They know the both of us and they end up overcompensating And they say Mandalorian like 10 times in the sentence. I know Mandalorian. They're Mandalorians are really cool I like Mandalorians a lot or would be even worse than that like the man They don't believe Mandalorians or it's kind of like when you call samus metroid, you know She's like are we calling Zelda? Yeah. Yeah, or you call master chief halo I had a friend's mom who would do that when I was young John halo I loved it when Mandalorian and luke met Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay When boba fat and luke met They were in boba fat met luke and gave him baby Yoda They would they would they would say boba fat like 10 times. They know that one. They know that one It's the cool one. Oh boba fat tied him up. All right. I remember boba fat with his grappling hook She knows game thrones Literally no one from the show looks like that You know because I'm not like the other girls What if I got into a game and because I'm a cat I just meowed Probably wouldn't be funny My reaction would be the initial one I'd be like, I hope you're not on my fucking team. So I don't have to listen to that for 15 minutes There are people who love this content listening to girls go meow. That's like, oh top tier twitch This is the this is the downfall of civilization in pokimane as its harbinger. Yeah It wouldn't entertain me how much you make a month million Oh god. Yeah, she's yeah, dude I don't know how long it would be before she's probably gonna be a billionaire the amount of fucking money She writes it is insane And uh, that's the thing maybe someone's confused in the context here They're like, why are you going after this this this so much like it's going to become clearer sooner But remember this is primo top tier content on an entire platform of creators this like what How So what thanks No, but If you were getting a million dollars a month for just doing that and you didn't have to exert yourself You had to just stay within that. Oh, I'd be tempted I get I get what you mean I was more so criticizing the audience, I guess rather than here at that point But if you think you have enough dignity to want to be like, you know, I hate the game Is that what you're saying? A million dollar paycheck might get rid of a lot of Oh Still hate the player a little bit But yeah, I hate the game a little like you like guys the fuck are you doing like enough stop this whole like I need to listen to women Yeah, I'm more upset at all of you for encouraging this bullshit I mean, she basically she she's she bait probably knows that they're just tuning in because she's like Semi-cute, you know They're not they're not tuning in to hear about her Your opinions on You know her opinion on anything. Yeah, she just plays up on that I just play, you know, not dumb, but kind of Ditsy she's like what can I do this great new money? I like cat noises that'll that'll take us 15 minutes I was about to stay with reference to that clip. It's like there are like thousands of people who masturbated to that That's Well, it's just true. Well, it is as I said, this is she probably knows that And she's like, well, yeah, she requires that She I guess she would hope for it. I get at this point. Oh, of course. Yeah If someone's sitting around masturbating to you making animal noises Then like you've got them in the palm of your hand Yeah, you can do anything at that point. Those are your those are your pay pigs, man Those are your cash Look chat, I know you're uncomfortable, but like you got to accept the truth This is the world that we live in like yeah, uncle freese querying me A million sheets is a lot of money This is like if Hitler was still around he'd be like, how do I honest this? He wanted to know because you could take over the whole world Well, I guess as long as you put that money you could find a way to like do some super cool charitable causes with that Like you're taking money and putting it into a that that could be that could be worthwhile right for the million a month Imagine that was your life. You have to meow all the time. You get to feed the All the cats of the world, yeah You could probably statistically lower down like for every meow she saves a life in africa or some shit That's if she does charitable causes does she charity begins at home really? She does like I would give her the benefit of the doubt that she does. Yeah, I'd assume she does Yeah, I would imagine oh, yeah And probably raises quite a lot of charity even if it's only for optics even like worst-case scenario for that It's still a good thing. Yeah, it still raises money. So absolutely Enjoy this type of content are the only ones who get off on it because I can't see people laughing at some girl making cat Noises I can't see people jerking off to it. So I have to assume that's why I was on a description of our society. It's like it comes to people laughing. But yeah, I'm in a whack. Yeah Yeah, cool, absolutely Per cute ubu persona she has going on she wants to be all cute innocent in front of the camera And if you attack her for acting this way people are like, oh, do you think she nails when she shits? Yes What the do you think she uses a litter box? She's putting this A lot of meat she just takes monsters humans imagine just human-sized poops in a litter box Pooping on Okay, I don't know what you're feeding that damn cat Do you Litter box every day, right? It's always a 10 of them Yeah, no, this is definitely a fake-ass persona She portrays herself as a cute bubbly girl So no one can talk shit about her content because she's just so innocent Well, not really. Pokimane is a massive hypocrite A youtuber named bo blacks made a video talking about the twitter drama between keemstar and pokimane And involved keemstar insulting one of her fans or whatever It doesn't matter what does matter is that pokimane wants people to think she's drama free So she did the rational thing and issued a copyright claim on bo blacks's video Which is a real shitty thing to do But what really bugs me about the situation is that she had this to say edit videos And actually put effort into it and make it more entertaining for the viewer like if you do it Yeah, there wasn't a single meow in that video. I mean I work for it So like as he said kind of inoffensive up to this moment where she's like, hey If you're gonna make a video put effort in there, okay edit it Make it in entertaining. Otherwise, I'm gonna come for you. You're like, oh my god It feels like wait a bit it because if you only knew her as the meow girl and then you see this you're like Hang on Getting getting a little hmm the fortnite streamers react to something Well, I'm so sorry that it takes you a lot of time to steal other people's content. I'm so sorry And put it together I'm so sorry that it takes you so much time to go to the top clips on fortnite And then just right click and save all of them as and then just like put them all into premiere And then just like which by the way, it's gonna be why would she even be bothered anyway, you know Well, because she's trying to I think she's trying to defend herself from having copyright strike him So she needs any argument she can grab No, no, no, no, I mean, why would you even bother Copyright striking his video. What's the point? Oh, well, I'm not sure if Get on with your streaming and make your millions. Who gives the shit what some, you know As um diesel pageant just said one of the ones she took down was one that was like trying to get her roped into How she's been fucking around with different things in different ways and it made it look bad I think that's why she tried to take that one down and it cascaded obviously And then you guys would have heard about this in some way she performed because it was pretty big at the time Like she became A little bit notorious for having done a lot of this shit Um, we're almost at the end of the the sequence for this video, though Expert, I'm so sorry Majority of her content are lazy Sorry, we're at the video. What what was the end of that one where she started like reading off certain things That made that guy uncomfortable. Do you remember what? Um, she found his I think instagram and she started showing pictures of him IRL With whoever and stuff. Yeah, this is the thing She got in serious trouble because she had no idea how to deal with Controversy of any kind and she started making huge mistakes Um, but the main thing I wanted to highlight was she just said if you're gonna make content you fucking If you want to make content, you got to react to it. Um, you got to put effort in you got to engage You know, that's that's that's the trick to it and save all the mass and then just like put them all into premiere And then just like export it. I'm so sorry. It's just the person just each cereal while I'm looking at videos Well, it's our lazy reaction videos with zero effort Okay, that's what I should say at the end of this video Oh, man eating while you're doing it as well I don't know if you're cool what just happened there She was trying to like make a joke at the beginning while eating about a video That's about to be like these are people who have died this year What it's like Jesus Christ What watch watch her realize is funny Yeah, so what you just saw there was a glimpse of what she typically does which is what a lot of streamers will do I say typically I don't want to be harsh here But the fact you do it all is bad eating food and just watching someone else's content on your stream to entertain your viewers it's like And this happened very gradually It was like you have streamers reacting kind of like How we do to a lot of videos and then you know if you stream all day You don't need to eat at some point right and what should you do when you're eating? And you've got nothing to entertain the people in chat. It's like well play a video, right? Like as opposed to just stopping the stream for like 10 minutes Well, there's lots of different things you can do and I think a lot of people start doing it And they're just like this is fine, right? I think this is fine And so it started to get a lot more controversial that was uh diesel patches By the way, the video is called why I don't like pokemon if you want to see the rest of it There will be all the links to this will be in the description eventually. I've got it all set I will sort it out. It's just trying to keep track of the timeline for the stream now So this is another example of somebody Covering why people were angry at pokeman. I feel like That other one was like an intro This one is is more hammering on the point and we have a cameo in this video from Someone making an argument that it's gonna piss you all right off. Hopefully It's a music. Uh, so this channel Is uh andre I think let me have a look Andre terbea I don't know how to pronounce. This is the only video I've seen of his because I was looking into this for this reason His animation is really cool. Uh, check this out. I like that That while she was complaining over people making videos on her that she thought weren't transformative enough over on twitch Her live content consists of a lot of just watching videos giving mild reactions and just sitting there oftentimes eating Or not even looking at the screen and this seems to have sparked a huge debate over what's considered transformative on youtube versus on twitch This is the most frustrating thing is i'm a react Andy myself. So this is if you don't know This is a man named Hassan pika and he He because his brain is just Miniscule decided to actually give his opinion on this fucking topic and he really shouldn't have um He's really stupid And so he does a lot of things without realizing that like where the wrong is There's so many fucking topics we can talk about in regards to that But this one's important because he is like many streamers where he sees everybody reacting to people's content on streams while eating And he's like yeah, I'll do it too And then it came up as a problem So he's gonna get defensive naturally if you you commit to several acts for a while and someone goes that's wrong You'd be like I wouldn't have done it if it was wrong so it can't be wrong So let's listen To his argument for why it's totally fine to let someone else's video play in full while you do whatever you want react to Andy myself Like I get so mad at this when youtubers literally sit around Okay, and they make one video They make one video a month And get like patreon money And then they cash out with like a six figure check and then they turn around and on streamers Who literally go live for six to eight hours every day? Like what the fuck are you saying? To clarify his argument is youtubers do like one uploaded poop month and rake in all the money Meanwhile streamers have to work their ass off every day Some of them do Definitely do some definitely don't So son is absolutely. He's a super one percenter. He has a he at least has seven figures And it wouldn't surprise me if it was eight. Yeah, like Yeah, this is uh, this is chanke yuga's cousin nephew, isn't it? Yes. Yes, and he uh, yeah He really spun off and he's like one of the most popular political Like commentators on the mms students Well, yeah, he was a great take on that day in september. Yes Fucking floor during the election Yeah, there was remember during the election like well that was happening. Yeah, 200 000 viewers 200 000 people watching this man And yeah, he just said, you know fucking youtubers complaining when they only have to do the one video per month while streamers do streams every day Not to me despite the fact probably things if it's like a 20 minute video that's 20 minutes of work Like that's that's probably his mindset Yeah, it's amazing. He's like let me steal your shit. Okay. I work longer than you that literally has nothing to do with anything It's it's like what the fuck are you arguing here that because you're in working harder and the quality of that work are three Things and it doesn't give you the right just because if I if it turned out it was true I do work harder than gerald over here. It's like I can steal your stuff now gerald. He's just like no Fucking insane and it it blows my mind that Like he even thought that this was an argument, but I guess it's just like who said it and you're like, oh, okay I get yeah Yeah, this this this video itself has a counter that's nuts, dude Of course, there's gonna be dead space in between you stupid This shit genuinely Pills me dude Okay, so let's think about this for a second because by the way I'm one of those channels that uploads once a month twice tops Sure, that's two days of content in a 30 day month But you know what I do the rest of but just to animate this it took Effort than all of this shit that that's just sitting in front of a screen Just doing nothing is eating a salad. Hassan just said of course. There's gonna be dead air you stupid fuck It's like Hassan. Who are you talking to? Dead air is in between your ears It's amazing it counters no one's argument. It's like did anyone say There's no dead air on a stream. He's like, oh, well, that's what you're wrong, buddy There's nothing to do with anything. Oh my air is dead. I'll have you now With 28 days I put in hundreds of hours of work to make one of these videos and here's the downside to that I could be working on a video for two weeks straight. I put it up on youtube and guess what if it's demonetized That's two weeks of full-time work that goes completely unpaid and I'm not talking hypothetically here either My last two videos were demonetized for and I quote discussions of modern acts of Events resulting in catastrophic loss of life. What the fuck youtube You don't even have to stand to eating their own words Oh Social issues and I mean all I did was talk about Shane Dawson and dr. Disrespect as far as I know Neither of them have anything to do with terrorism or Traffic events and by the way appealing the decision not only doesn't solve it most of the time But it also may prompt a manual age gaining considerably limiting the discovery of your video You know just to I like his little duck character is like fuck you. Oh, yeah, I like the purple duck Ducks are taking you in the nuts while you're down Twitch streamers may well spend hours every day live streaming But while I'm working my ass off for free crossing my fingers not to piss off the chimps with the red button They can make my video These dudes get a steady income from subscription revenue and donations on a daily basis seems to me like that's a pretty good deal Yeah, his animation is great. That's a really good video and I like the style. I hope he's doing well And it's so frustrating to be like to have Hassad piker fillet his face with food talking down to you about the work You don't do you're like fuck off. Where's my content, bitch? I need my content for twitch, bitch I need something to watch during lunch while I get You know who I am I can bet you know who I am Do you know who my uncle is? Yeah Yeah, and just the you could you could expect someone to be a little bit You know defensive on the subject if they've done it they really they try and explain the reasoning But he was like angry at the idea that he'd done anything wrong Oh, yeah, man. He's beyond reproach. He's got the you have a spirit of righteousness in him, man I mean, he's not he's not a good known fuck after all Good, no And so now I'm gonna bring it back There's a guy called uh heel versus baby face. He does subnautica streams everyone's somewhere else. Oh, no This is this is we need to know all these things because it's it's a really funny sort of coincidence That all this shit happened the way that it did so Oh my god Kind of kind of it is to me and you'll see why in a moment. Not a cock So this is sometimes I hang around with with as well. He's doing his little underwaterisms And we were having a little conversation For reference, this was this is a week and a half Uh sunday the sunday before the last time, right? Yeah, I think so um Yeah, there was there was a yeah god that was a that was a moment in time about just reactions in general Oh, okay, there you go. This one mean that's even more coincidental than me. Um, then uh I'm just gonna say PewDiePie Idubs went and did a content cop on jinxed any Uh, yeah, man a couple people just slaughtered him. Uh killed him man. Just killed him It's sad to chat. Yeah. Well, yeah, please I'd like to uh, I'd like to report a murder Because jinx just got killed in 4k Uh, yeah, he his channel was done after that after that, uh, it used to be really like he's got millions of views I think and then uh, it slapped down to like, I think thousands literally that I'm not looking down that he's fucked That he's so far. They got bigger. I literally went down to like thousands From from millions that is That is a heck of a, um, way to fall Yeah, it just it was just pissing everyone off because it's like you're just stealing other people's content And that brings us to what you mentioned a poke main and a lot of streamers are doing that on twitch now And it really fucking annoys me Wow, um, it's sort of Well, what does that mean? Oh, uh Yeah, sorry, it just fucks with the the face of you do the camera thing. No problem. Oh, sorry I was going to do an inception of an inception Oh my god Uh, uh, the way that the reaction the the the streamer reaction uh started to evolve Uh, was when they couldn't get away with doing what they were doing with that when the corporations Were hitting them You know, and it and it was being upheld as non transformative content. So they were just getting done Uh, they then turned to youtubers And they started nicking a youtuber content And uh reacting inverted commas to that And that just involved exactly what I was doing before sat there eating a bowl of fucking cereal You know why you're why you're watching somebody's, uh YouTube video where all your streamer Viewers are not watching it therefore that that Video is not getting any bump whatsoever and actual fact it's doing it more damage than good And then every so often you're just going And you call it and you're calling that a reaction and um Yeah, I I think uh, I think youtubers are very right to um To fucking strike those fucking streams But there's no but the only problem is there's just no There's no win for them Well, yeah, because the streamers are really big and then you'll get loads of conversations about whether or not that's fair And trying to publicly try and take them down stuff so much of a mess. Yep Yeah, so it's it just becomes an absolute mess while the uh the streamer just uh Go scot-free And yeah, so that that's the clip I wanted to show there to to also move a solid the conversation to uh There's not what you can do about this Because if you're a smaller youtuber and you say hey, um, I don't know whoever obviously like pokemon I have to copyright strike you because you just stole my video And then her channel actually has significant damage as a result of that. It's like that looks awful for you And it's like wow, she was like promoting your video. She was saying it was good She was enjoying it and you come in here trying to try to what like get money off her like that's that's fucked up And it's just like I feel like So a lot of the time they feel trapped they're just like I guess I just have to accept that This is the way it is and the people could just watch my stuff and they wouldn't even watch my video They will watch it through something else And um, one of the things that set me on this recently was I'm assuming you guys are aware of it At least some people at jcs the channel the the criminal psychology channel Oh, love it. Yeah, a lot of people. Was it you that turned me on to that channel Mola? Um, possibly I recommend everybody see it basically I've watched it all. I've watched it all now. Yeah. Yeah. Um a monster. This is monsters. And so, uh, I think Hasan, you know Pokiming plenty of plenty of people They found an op like a like an opportunity there to it fills content for days Just watching that channel on your stream while you play games Because jcs does all the work and then you go wow Crazy that that happened that way Wow And some are better than others, of course You're watching these videos on stream. Yeah, uh, they just watch they let them play and then they do their thing And the viewers are entertained, of course, and the viewers like oh, this is a fucking good video keep playing it To the point where they like we don't what a diss service to that content. Yeah What a fucking diss I work to get that info I watched like probably five of them in a row and I was glued to my seat I was I want to watch the next one. This is great. I want to see all the things I want to see what's happening Which um because it's pretty insightful. It's fucking great We're almost to present time now So we're gonna we're gonna watch a minute of this video first and this is the thing What are you talking about the mcu? Yeah, this you know what this is the the reaction cinematic universe. We've been going through This is the whole You haven't checked out jcs. You need to check out jcs. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, really good stuff there. Yep Fascinating In-depth look into why people do what they do in crime and how they react to stressful situations and stuff But I'm gonna play a bit of this video. You guys will recognize the creator And it'll just I'm just curious what you'll say when we watch a bit of it You would have seen this you would have seen this before more than likely or if you haven't Should still be fun 8800 blue lick road is a three bedroom house that you can go on a 3d virtual tour of right now if you're interested in purchasing it And it's uh, you know, they say you don't really know someone until you've Oh, no, there should be a curtain Do you like they have to share the oh, well, I guess they don't there's another one there, but uh, What if what if like that was this was the this is the master bathroom? They just assumed it's for couples. So we're gonna put two toilets in there. Of course. That's just that's just intuitive and I like yes, well Only the one toilet is the master of the toilet paper The other one has to request I have the plunger. I don't need but notice notice what's doubly weird Is that there's all of those rolls of toilet paper? But there's not toilet paper on the roll in the middle one. Yeah But there's two rolls Is that two rolls or is that a roll of kitchen paper? Oh, no, it's not a roll for the wall. They just set the toilet paper on that bar. So they do share one. That's cute Yeah, oh that is so sweet. That's how you know, you're truly in love. Yeah, that's true love this this picture This picture is true love It's like, oh, I should go toilet quick. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll come with you like, okay How many toilets are there two how many rolls are there one? That's true love. Yeah Taking a dump this digital property viewing is one of those things where the longer you stare at the image the more bizarre things you notice So today I'm going to take you on a sightseeing tour of the oddities of 8800 blue lick road If we start in the entrance, you're greeted by a Minion's brand doorman Look at the random the blue stairs on the white. Wow. That's interesting Oh, it feels so jay that there's a Minions thing on the floor. He's like gotta talk about this the Minions So notice there's there's double coat hangers on the left and the right. They have that many coats. That's a lot of coats A lot of people work here, I guess This isn't even your And guess the main living area the dryer like the little god those stairs are fucking filthy And you think they wouldn't be because there's a there's a little carpet vacuum thingy. Well, right there Right by the door. I'm almost excited by the fact you have not seen this video apparently because this house I've never seen this You'll want to go up the stairs where you'll find yourself in a semi open plan. We're not going to come to a room with dildos Are we what nothing that breaches to us in any way nothing at all? You know what? I don't think they've uh cleaned up Yeah, it's very dirty and also these couches are just like obligation couches. They're not like they're facing anything There's not a tv There's not yeah, like oh that like the first time I ever got a place I got obligation furniture because you just you just have furniture Yeah, you want to live right and then I never used it because I would be either on my bed or at my pc Or something like that there would be just chairs I would never ever sit in in tables that I would never ever use I'm like, oh well now. I know I don't need them Not good space this house Oh wait for it wait for it after the previous occupants moved out. There's quite a lot of mess in a styrofoam packaging cat litter And four ornamental Santa figures Four ornamental Santa figures There's like there's a vhs player and another vhs player and it's just an it's amalgamation of Of just just machinery. This looks like a movie set where they just needed props for and they just put it around If you include Santa of the lamp Yeah Wait, wait, wait, wait. Is that more toilet paper on the left hand table? Yes, it is. No, those are lip rollers Yes Oh, they're so goddamn lazy That instead of actually cleaning they've bought in a trio That they just use of lint rollers that they just roll over the couches and everything for I guess the animal hair They don't even like actually clean. No Let's get the surface here off sometimes I inch by the back of these cupboards first thing you might notice is these people subsist entirely on a diet of pure monster energy That's a lot of monster energy They're not even in the frit. Oh, I'm not even gonna fuck it But they didn't even put these in the fridge and I'm gonna guess and assume is because there's not any room inside of the refrigerator I don't think there's problems if they have one If they have I surely I think that's it on the right hand side next to that lonely ice water hanging on the wall Which is a lot of use in this household and the desk chair To the cheap uh, the the let me see the yeah see so this table here, right? So this is uh that tablecloth with the coffee and stuff on it I think that's just like a plastic cover you'd use for parties and things. Yeah, it's a tip for everyone. It's not a real tablecloth Yeah, they just left because Oh, and look at the month at the empty monster Cardboard box on the left hand side the purple one that they just haven't thrown out yet They just put a figure in It's cute that might might It is handy you can think of all that maybe that's where they maybe that's where they put all their empty cans And they take all the cans out at once boom These people subsist entirely on a diet of pure monster Notice that there is another chair behind it Yeah facing an unused desk where it's just pushed all the way underneath the the desk It's just well look at that you got playing cards here as well in the backs And notice the location of how you have this workspace, which I don't think is really workspace because the computer monitor is not turned Toward the chair I think it's just become storage for whatever the main wherever the main computer is But this is those desktops are filthy Well, this is right next to the range the stove is right there And I don't like How the microwave is right above the stove Because that encourages you to reach over the stove and lean kind of forwards a bit And if the stove is hot while you're doing that that could you might accidentally hurt yourself if you're trying to get to the Feels weird to have a floaty microwave. I've never seen that really One two three deck playing cards You never seen a floaty. I had wanted munich when I was living in munich. You never invited me to munich I've never seen them. Well, you never invited me to munich at mal. How would I know? I'm pretty sure I did but you were like, no, you're stanky. I mean you can kind of think a little bit Three random decks of playing cards Are interesting that they have three one of them's open like they One of them. I assume the cards are scattered willy-nilly across the You gotta find them all Yeah, it's 52 pickup at hard mode Where's wally but with the wall does are they Yeah, they they they pulled the last monster from it and they just chuck the cardboard over next to the monitor They don't use it can go over there That's all good. Oh, there's another fucking monster as well one two three four five. Damn There's the five of the six Well six including the empty one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, they burn through those if that's how much they buy it Well, yeah, they buy the bulk because they know they burn in through monster Energy fucking enough just on that kitchen table that if you One two three four five No, no, no, no. No, this is the same table. It's the just different view. Okay We get to see the range now where you have the the plastic that's just laid on top of the um On top of the stove. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine knives Um Interesting. Well, you know what you but you've accidentally proven a lot of the points I was hoping to make so thank you for this, right But um, also notice that this one chair for whatever reason is not pulled up into The table this one is facing opposite of the table, which makes me wonder Were they trying to get to a bulb table there? There's another table. Yeah Yeah, oh, yeah Which means that if you want to sit at that table, you're blocking the you know the Traversal between the two tables instead of just pushing them together. Maybe they're different heights But why would but why would you do that? Why would you get two tables that are two completely different heights? If you're just going to put them next to each other and make two islands It doesn't make sense smaller. It doesn't make sense for you. It doesn't make sense Help Well, so some people are wondering like why would you take photos of your house this way is like so pretty sure there was a um Like a some kind of scam going on here Like it could have been laundering could have been like piracy Piracy of of different items and then reselling them and stuff and it got raided and this was more so done for like I don't know They were raiding stealing monsters Could be like gold fellers and shit like that You end up in a room at one point that is filled with dvds It's just old like boxes and boxes of to be sold Like so like a whole box of maybe one movie and it's just ready to be sold and The idea I think is that they were getting it from from dubious sources really like that You know if this was an old if this was an older 70s house at least here in america Housing construction and architecture sort of changes and trends as time goes on if you a house that was made in the 50s Or in the 70s will look different Houses in the 70s will be a lot more A lot of smaller Cell kind of like rooms and then it's time goes on like in modern days You have a lot of more open spaces when it comes to living rooms and kitchens and how they're often connected Whereas they were Generally closed off a lot when it came to the 70s So it wouldn't surprise me here if this was at least in this place Whatever country this is in if the same trend was going on you see this this this wall here And that's actually a curtain that you pull it wouldn't surprise me if originally this was a wall That separated a devoted kitchen area to a living room That was then remodeled where that wall was removed and then they just put up the blinders where that used to be And there was another wall here that would separate the kitchen area Um after the window from the rest of the living space but oh This is a video that I think I've already gotten proof now that if we were to go through the whole thing We would be doing it for hours on end Yeah, I'm afraid not but it's all gonna become well. This is the thing. Uh, this is on jay's channel It's called the most bizarre house you've ever seen just go. Yeah Whenever you want really good video. Yeah, it's really funny We can return to it if you wish ranks, but i'm afraid we're on a different path We're on a we're on a dark side of power. I think I know where this is gonna go now Most people probably have been able to guess where this is going if if you have twitter if you do not I know what happens the owners of this house found this video and they went to copyright strike jay No, no feeling their content Don't worry. You'll I mean I would have thought you'd have a better gas considering all the theming of today's well Oh is someone covering jay's video So we're we're we're looking at someone you may recognize called moist critical critical is a huge Creator and i'm pretty sure everybody in chat knows a critical and loves the shit out of him. He's uh very entertaining Everyone everyone loves a bit of critical. He's fun. Now. Um, you just saw us covering You just saw us covering one minute of jay's video Um And of course knows what we missed you know minute who knows what interesting things are lurking around every quarter of This domicile who knows what with details that we might have missed You should watch this video It's funny. Yeah, obviously house is crazy. You could watch jay's video You could even just go and find whatever the link I think the link would be in his description of how to actually do it yourself I can because you can just go around the house yourself sort of thing Yeah, if it's still up it could also be that it's been sold now and you can't see it anymore. I don't know Yeah, maybe um So if you can we're gonna not talk or For four minutes. We are instead going to watch We're gonna watch critical commentate as he watches jay's video We've all been there rooms here, so let's see what this one has in store for us Well, this room is the kitchen As you do, you know, I'm starting to think the people who live here have I've kind of a thing for boxes. Oh, and there's two more doors over there. So I guess Now pretty much everything about this kitchen is like five out of ten strange Like the room as a whole is bizarre, but there's not many things I want to point out to you specifically Although there has been watching superhuman for a long time hole in it How hard does that get right and this cupboard which on two separate occasions someone decided to repaint up halfway through I blame soda toilet person Let's see where the doors leading off this room go and we'll start with this one over here now. Uh, this one is Uh, oh Oh I'm gonna say it That is a larger quantity of boxes than the conventional amount to stack up against your fire exit This room is the office. It's uh, oh just quick pause I know I know where I'm supposed to but whatever program he's using I noticed that when jay put his cursor on the side of the box The cursor shifted its alignment to be on that side of the box I thought that was interesting. It's uh A little bit messy a little bit. There are two bags attached to the ceiling One of which is had losers written on it And on the pair of them there is a sign that says why can't we all just get along? This is a beautiful room though undeniably the decor. This is where the homeowners really had their best ideas I think hanging off the ceiling for some reason the laboratory This is a very big house that anyone drop shipping din. You're pretty close actually It's a whole way that must lead to the final north west. Oh, it's a 2017 topless calendar Hang on note. That's a whole stack of 2017 topless calendars Which must mean unless someone really likes 2017 topless calendars. These are for retail They're selling these and you know what? I can only say good luck With that considering the toplessness and calendars are things that you can get for free on your computer now Forget 2020. I imagine these would have been pretty hard to shift in 2017 Which to be fair is probably why you still have them if we progress past the topless calendars through the hallway to the final room We will find hang on. Is that two more doors? Hang on. Is that a staircase? So this is the storage area where things are stored. What kind of things are being stored here? You might ask well the photos are good for a dollar Yeah crates of what the gospels meant by gary wills a box of 50 farmville sheep And five cows Skin it's unclear what this is, but don't destroy it, please. I have a few questions about these books. It's the best house I'm not sure I want them answered. We have a box of the simpsons brand carpets intuitively labeled pirates Anything else that doesn't quite fit into any of those categories, but I know what you're wondering You're interested in purchasing this house and you need to know the prime slender space that actually is Well, let's start where we started already The first thing you might notice is there's two bathrooms coming off this room Which is great more places to poop always welcome This urinal has a carpet on it too That is bizarre It's venturing to the first storage room, shall we? In this room, we'll find you know boxes Thanks a prime love check Of course right now, but we'll also find kyle. kyle is a box lifter And next to kyle is a dark abyss of boxes that kyle was unable to save He failed as kyle. We trusted you And you let us down. Thanks to kyle is the door to the next storage room. Let's go through that You haven't seen shit from this house yet. We're only just beginning. I'll let the whole thing ride I've seen this And looked into it we head on back through kyle's room. We can get to the next storage room That's definitely a staircase. This is what it looks like when you activate a hundred percent of your brain That's the last thing I expected when I clicked the button to enter this room Truly it is a state of shock that I find myself in Ignore that other staircase. We didn't we didn't just pass that shut up looks like these people have a lot of stuff Just gonna put that out there. I think they might have a few things In their home. You know what though? We've held off long enough. Let's venture back to kyle and descend the staircase Okay, here we go. Oh look more boxes than a place you would not usually expect to find boxes I'm gonna stop there because I think you get the point Um, yeah, you had to you had to stop rags from talking about this video, okay? So many times so so many times When I saw this for the first time it's got an overwhelming sense of this isn't cool. This is not cool Yeah I find actually weird because normally he talks a lot when he when he's watching those videos. So um I'm actually confused that it's like not saying anything Well, you know what he does say because basically this goes on until his prime subs. That's what he's saying Well, you know what let before we continue I'm gonna fast forward you pass him watching the whole video up to Um, he finishes the video and then he says what is the name of this house? Where is it and he finds it and then he says, uh, what was the story behind this house? And he eventually finds it And he tells his audience what it was and then this is right after that God such a fucking cool house Out of like from nowhere, which is I assume it doesn't just reset you guys It just never moved really for me. Yeah, just where it was. Oh, hang on twitch twitch video is a weird with uh With bars I could I could use here as well. Maybe you want to use the yellow one. I guess let's hope this works together one Look at that. I love a zebra chair though. That's That's Okay, I keep trying to move it. It's not happening Work with me. Yeah, it just keeps resetting on me. Hang on. Let me see if I can just I'll reset the video itself See what happened An HK to one to keep the pizza boy Oh, no Bastard. Oh, no, there we go Okay, it's literally ignoring me now Um, if where we don't want to go look to the end I'll post it if you if you guys want to try and get to that timestamp. See if you can Yeah If you go through the twitch line See it doesn't do anything under watch together one I got it to five or five fifty Yeah, I got uh five oh five Five oh five fifty Well, it was now back at zero five oh five oh nine keeps reset. All right. Well, I'm afraid we can't play it But we basically it just adds he doesn't let here we go. Let's there we are. Is it playing for you guys? I'm still all back at zero. Yeah Oh, no, it's back to zero. It wasn't five oh six something for me and then just one Is it is five doesn't give Jay credit at all or anything? No, um, and that's the thing if I'd say bare minimum you go Hey, this was from this person and I'll link the thing like you could at least do that Um, yeah, and so Jay obviously found out about this and then tweeted like don't know how what I'm supposed to do about this How am I supposed to respond like what? I mean, it's kind of lame and a lot of people respond to Jay like appreciate the exposure Hmm Well, there wasn't on there wasn't let me go look at my analytics to see just what that exposure did No When you played a video, I don't know could you even see I mean, I guess you could see the title But no one's gonna look at that. No one's gonna look at you're not listening to him like a lot of people do You're not even you're gonna have no clue Well, this video actually the reason critical is watching it is because it hit the algorithm relatively recently for jay It's an older video. I say older. It's older than when it became recommended. I guess and um, so jay Checked a 2017 topless calendar in it Checked the time and date against when this this day happened and he said that there was 400 views for the video of the day So it's like you could probably account that maybe a few from critical stream decided. I want to see this video myself Maybe 100 views is nothing Not well his video is doing really well anyways to me I'm just like I'm not even sure how much you could attribute that that came from Yeah, that's true But what you do hear from that whole selection that i'm not showing the whole thing of because my god It's it's really hard for us on efeb to not talk for more than a minute even so, you know What you did here was thanks for prime north west slender love shack paradox later gifted by dax fibbit Sensible and delirious. These are all the people. He thanks while watching jay's video for giving him money. It's like That doesn't seem quite right does it? Thank jay for giving him money. Yeah jay's entertaining your audience and you're not doing anything. Yeah This is like this is him And so i've got a story about that molar, you know that we said I don't know if you want to go for it go through that one again well, I mean So, uh, I was you know, I've been in a similar position with this because of when I used to move my world of warcraft content and um asman gold used to watch World of warcraft videos on his channel on his stream channel Uh, and it was just at the time where he was getting big so he would have At that time at that moment in time between like 10 to 15 thousand people probably watching him When he when he would watch these videos now I want to say up front before anyone says anything asman gold if you if you said to him. Hey, uh, Zach can you not Play my videos on your channel. He would say fine. He'd be, you know, absolutely fine with that Uh, I was okay with him watching the videos Uh, because I thought you know, yeah, maybe we'll get me, you know a few extra views or or whatnot but I think I didn't I didn't care one way or another anyway, and um You do not get a single bump From those from from being watched on a huge channel at all Because the people who are consuming that video are consuming it on the channel itself that they're watching And so the person that gets the bump is actually the streamer Of that. Yeah, um now I got an email from somebody who Probably didn't like me much I'm gonna guess Uh, who was mad that uh asman gold looked at one of my videos Well, he did a few but let's do this specific one And uh, I was saying I don't know why asman gold Watched you you shit type of business You should be grateful that you've got you you've got your video out there And I I looked at the analyticals and you don't get a thing You don't you don't get a single solitary Uh bump on it In orphanage asman gold He would actually sometimes if I was streaming on twitch because I used to stream on twitch at the time And and uh, he would kind of like rotate when he finished Raiding people, you know, and he raided me a couple of times. So I've got to give him credit for that But um, he would give you credit and tell people to go and watch the video But regardless of doing that You don't You you don't get anything from it Uh, so you could have somebody of the size of you know moist or or zack or whatever And you will not see a pop because of that that video It goes purely to the channel that it's being watched on which is the the stream. Yeah, and that's that's the That's the unfortunate point because what you do, you know, you you are stuck as a youtube Or what do you do because as a youtuber you can't do anything with the people on twitch um And if you're a youtuber and you react to the people on twitch then the twitch people can Copyright strike claim copyright strike. They've got all sorts of tools Uh to mess with your content. So it's it's so Lobb sided on this as regards to Watching somebody else's content on something like a stream twitch stream platform and I want to make it clear because some people like you're fuck critical It's like so this is a totally I think normal thing that he's just slipped into doing without quite realizing what's happening When you watch or react to quick videos like someone sends you a 10 second funny video like a meme thing You react on stream. Yeah, it seems pretty fine 15 seconds. Yeah. Yeah, it seems fine a minute. You're like Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on the video at that point and then when it's like They've they've gotten to a point now and this is the thing that this is the thing that really set me off Kind of because I just know about it in his recommended when he's looking at jay's video is a jcs video I was like, ah, he's probably done that too. He's probably watched all the jcs's videos while barely commenting on them And it's just been a source of content for a whole week of streaming We don't have to do fuck all except play a video game You cycle all those subs in and you entertain them with jcs's content like that That is not cool And um, I think the streamers are perfectly like if you spoke to critical about this, you'd probably be like, yeah You know what that's you're probably right. I should I should probably promote the videos I should probably uh, you know, there's better practice. I don't expect him to react like Hassan where he's like, yeah Well, youtubers should work harder. It's like I don't think critical would say that. I'm pretty confident he wouldn't say that to you Yeah, um But some of the bug me was as this video plays as a point where jay mentions that there's like pornography at one point in In the house jay doesn't show any of it for youtube to us, but Uh critical gets a little bit paranoid and so he starts putting up his cover for it It's the most effort he does throughout all of it is to protect his own channel from a to us breach Um, and to me, I'm just like man, like if we're just being completely honest here, you are Just taking someone else's stuff to entertain your audience because you like you might be tight At least it's right before he ends the stream. It's probably low energy. He's just like yeah, but yeah And if you remember he even kind of says it he wanted to show his audience this house But he doesn't want to do it himself Which by the way, that's a way better source of content you going through the house yourself and commenting on everything Instead we could do a whole stream on that. Absolutely. We could yeah, I just had rags talk. He found like 17 000 things Absolutely. What a house It's it's great. You'll enjoy watching that And so this is the thing this is where the brain went It was like I need a video that goes through the house also preferably one that has like amusing commentary and Skips to the best parts of the house so I can just play it all and then I can talk about the fact that Yeah, it was like a drug or a piracy ring thing that got busted And it it's just like Yeah, I don't want to be too harsh to anybody But like I'm really not liking this trend and I feel like it's just taking us all the way back to jinx I thought we got over this shit. Yeah I probably don't even realize what they're doing. I think as he's just said a lot of these I'm just gonna do this a little bit and then a little bit. It's like, oh, I just gonna do this the whole day It's like, oh wait, hang on. Yeah, and a lot of these creators are They're known for many things not just they reacted to this particular thing and therefore I think it's a lot harder for viewers To see that as a like jinx is literally just reacting While these people are like they're entertaining personalities. They've done all kinds of stuff And now they're just sort of drifting into this a little bit And so I think the audience are like what like this is fine This is just that they promote the video and um I'm just hoping that this is the beginning of pushing the fuck back on this and that more creators actually start realizing like Yeah, we probably shouldn't do this actually because as I said in that little stream clip we played Um, they would be doing this with like movies and tv, but they can't because a copyright But they can when it's a youtuber because how bad would jay look if he tried to do any kind of strike on critical right now? We look terrible. Yeah You're like you're an asshole your piece of shit. You couldn't even like talk. Yeah, you're kind of Kind of in a position where you can't really do anything doing anything would be detrimental and in whatever way It's not a good place to be and it's kind of kind of crappy Yeah, and uh, and so just gonna keep going on I guess and it's just something that I've spoken to Fringed about this on his streams before as well It's just something I've noticed him more and more and I've seriously got a bug in my brain about how jinx is coming back And we got to stop him Yeah And that's it has he learned his lesson is he starting to really jinx. I meant jinx is a genre, I guess Because jinx the guy he's not doing this shit anymore He'd never be able to pull it off But if you're a huge creator who's already popular and they're like you need to watch this going through this house video made by Some guy you could just watch it. It's so good um And then you can just reap the rewards and that's uh, it's frustrating of course and streamers should work fucking harder than this I feel like we do a lot more effort than just playing videos and then go right catch us next week guys and um It's like more you should communicate to critical I don't think I could get a message to critical whatsoever But I mean if if we are raising some form of an awareness about this Hopefully more and more fans will start being like hey, maybe maybe say who made this a step one. Yeah And that's yeah, it'd be I mean it would be good. I mean It'd be good if they actually had a some sort of interactable link on the actual screen at all times as well Uh and try and your courage encourage your audience to watch along or some just something That is gonna at least give the creator of that content some sort of view which um Because I I got a I got a feeling it was probably watched without block on and everything, you know, so You know 4j is it's getting not he's getting absolutely out of it all It's really hard and to complain is to only turn yourself into a pariah to a degree Yeah, you it's only gonna it's only gonna work against you charlie's not gonna get any um Flack from it at all. It's just gonna it's just gonna reflect badly on uh j That's not how it should be because it's That's the irony of it. Unfortunately. There are streamers. I like who do this and their rationale is everyone else is doing it Uh Some yeah jack the ripper murdered hookers Is Yeah, it's just a real shame I don't know why you wouldn't be more excited to be like this video is fucking excellent Everyone should support this channel that made this video get more content out of this channel good stuff Instead of being like, ah, it's mine It's mine There's j tried reaching out to him. I have no idea I just um, I saw it happen and then I was like in conjunction with everything else I can probably have a little little fun little uh run through history here and um Yeah, to make something. I don't think charlie's malicious. So I just think it's um, I just think it's uh, You know, it's become too comfortable that they just don't even think of the Repercussions that it that it's having they you know, I bet a lot of them think well, I'm watching it So they'll probably get a good kick from this and and the reality is no that's that is not how it works at all Yeah, then they're probably like better. I watch it than not watch it for them, right? Like it only can help So, uh, yeah, no, uh, and you miss an opportunity to help other great channels grow as well. I don't know why you wouldn't um Yeah, again, I think most of the perpetrators if you want to call that they're not I don't know that they've been exposed to any of these arguments. I think they might literally just be like I'm just watching some youtube videos. What's the big deal? Yeah, you guys watch youtube videos. Everyone watches youtube videos. I mean, that's just what i'm doing Well, hence the the comparison to e-fab like in terms of transformative show I feel like we're on the other end of the scale. It's like almost ridiculous People forget what the video was even about Yeah Yeah, that's right. We were watching a video And you know to me this it's the that really is about using the video as a vehicle for discussion and therefore the content itself may have been Impossible without the video but the content itself isn't in any way specifically just the video um, but in these ones it's really hard to argue that when 90 percent of his commentary was thanking subscribers as the video was going on Yeah, I mean It's weird though because because molly's critical charlie. Why have you want to come on? Um, he's uh, you know, he's funny He's got a lot. He's got a lot when he does his content and he's got a very dry You know kind of way of doing it. It's like I walked in today and suddenly there's a big come bucket all over my kitchen And I didn't realize why there was six dildos, you know, he's kind of got his very sort of dry way of putting these things and Yeah, I'm just amazed that I yeah sure it might be the end of his stream whatever but there was come on You know He could have made that video. He could have put it on mute. He could have just had it go through He could have put his own his own commentary on top of that Uh and made it, you know funny entertaining engaging But I think it was rags that I don't want to take away from someone else Uh, it why didn't he just use the video as uh As inspiration to do a tour himself Yeah, yeah, obviously jay was almost um echoed out by rags because I've noticed something I've noticed Unless the thing you've completely transformed it at that point. It's barely jay's video But at the same time I would link jay's video and say this is made by jay go see if you want to see the full one Why not? Yeah And so that about does it unless anyone else wants to talk about this in any other way? That's that was the adventure for the day Oh, that was our advent. Wow. What an adventure I didn't I wasn't even aware that it's happening again. I just I I mean, I basically stream almost every day And I mean, I don't really pay attention to all the other streamers So I didn't even notice that that's a thing. Well, you can start doing it I don't I won't thank you Uh Uh Now I lost my train of thought fuck, uh, you didn't know it was happening You said yeah, it was even where it's happening because mostly I'm just Streaming myself and then don't really watch any other streamers Maybe amongst sometimes when he's streaming when I'm awake or something uh Yeah, I think I This is so eating and watching something on stream. I think I ate on all my streams like twice maybe And I was just like, oh, I was what I was about to stream now But my food is on the way. Well, I have a quick bite while I'm streaming But then I don't watch a video. I just talk to chat Think it's so uh, what's up just then the conversation just gets going like interesting That I I feel like there's a little bit of just like this is I should have known that this is where we'd end up because It's a quite a culture now that there are many people who stream as much as between eight and eleven hours a day And that is their job So of course it will be ridiculous to assume They will constantly be bombastic and insightful They have to be times as Hassan very intelligently pointed out where they will be dead air because nobody knew this beforehand So it's like what do you do with that dead air and everybody has different decisions on how exactly they deal with it And I think that putting non copyright music up louder at the time I could I could see that someone's like, yeah, it's fine, right? Yeah, I guess so Someone's like, I'm gonna put this um, I'm only gonna be gone for a minute So I'm gonna put up this funny video of a guy trying to climb a fence or something Yeah, okay And then one day someone's like I gotta go for about 10 minutes I'll um, I'll pop this video on of them j exploring the house And then they do and then they come back and turn it off and they're like, yeah, it's pretty funny And then they move on with their lives like And I think they see it as like you're watching me do my day So it is all me still and it's like, yeah, but if you literally are that there's no separation between them Having watched the video on the channel and then just watching it there. It's like, yeah I don't know about that I I do think there is a cynical side that there is they know this is content that they can get away with because they know It's about some of them Some of them know it but it'll be bad optics for um For the youtuber to try and go go after them on this and the youtuber probably ain't gonna get anywhere with twitch People remind me one of the times you ate was the movie buff challenge metal. So yeah, yeah, I know But you know if They they would really want to have a music video up there can't do that A tv series up there can't do that. Yep A movie up there can't do that So what so they're coming for the content they know that they can They can go for and is there some incredibly talented youtubers out there that Will put out crazy videos and interesting videos that They can just grab and use all day Speaking of um internet story and earlier He's actually told many of these streamers himself that you can stream the video in full and not even really react to it I don't mind. That's totally fine. And in cases like that. I think that's totally fair But when you have people who are desperately trying to jumpstart their careers on youtube and you're like, this is mine now And you're like, oh, but If I use a video on stream or we use a stream on the friday night tights, we'll always give credit to who You know to who that video is for and there's no reason not to Yeah, exactly. I mean the carl dunnegan stuff. We've actually reached out and asked permission to play those You know those things in full Uh on the channel But even if it's just there's a funny video and it's got like a 15 minute 15 second like real funny clip in it I still say hey, you know go check out the video It's you know this channel yada yada yada. So you still try and push them towards The actual video itself if you can Even if it's just a little clip that you're trying to show off just a few second giggle And it helps a lot with music too with music It is Like oh, you played a 10 15 30 second clip of a music thing as an intro or an outro or something like that I want that music and that will be totally independent of like I want just the music So i'm going to go look for it people will look for that music and they'll track it down I'll hunt it down so they can have it themselves So I think there's much more of a conversion rate If for music clips instead of just playing in the background Oh, you know if you would check the channel out, you know, there it is even though you've already gotten the whole video Well, that was some Kind of why we started with jinx and jacks films response. I honestly, I know it's harsh You could have played jacks films response after we finished that critical coverage Could have been like you just sat there and you barely commented on the thing Um, and then you just talked about some other stuff for ages at the end This is like I guess from now on i'll just play your stream And react to it so i'm a one-stop shop instead of which is how it's going to result people will be like I'll just watch this stream all day. They watch really good youtube videos And so I almost get my fill of youtube and twitch at the same time Yeah, there's a difference between fair usage transformative content And doing nothing Yeah, um, I I got a feeling if uh, if you did get hold of charlie here just go back on them, you know I think so too and and this is the thing It's it's not really about him or so about this this growing attitude It loads of streamers doing it and it's got to stop it's gonna pop at some point Um And it's just like it was weird to see it about someone i'm so familiar with like because I was just it's like What if it happened to you? I'd be like, I don't know if someone watched one of my videos in full on their stream While they went to go and get food And they're just getting loads of subscribers people say this is pretty cool Or whatever just enjoy that they come back and they start playing the game again I'd be like wow, I do not know how to react to that Yeah I do do you want to honestly when you put the uh the charlie clip up? I actually thought he was going to be really funny No, I I thought you're bringing up as an example of how to really transform that content. Yeah It was a story though. It was hanging with picture Yeah, I did I did paint the picture Yeah And then when he just stood sat there I was just like oh no, and then we just like thanks this uh It's a step in five. It's a gift. It's like oh no, this is what this is what it's going to be isn't it? It's just going to be thanking subs and not saying But yeah, I thought you were setting us up for a good for a good reaction Yeah, that's well, I mean In a way that's what was helpful about the format we actually run It's like hopefully we've been doing that throughout the whole point is that we we can't stop talking about the stuff We're playing you know like we got something to say about everything and so it transforms it immediately Now the people in chat presumably are here to hear our perspective on these subjects They're not here because they're like I desperately want to see critical react to jay's video. I hope they show it It's like that would be weird um Or any of the stuff so far Um, mola, no one's going to play your videos for a quick break. Well if they went to sleep and played All of my channel. I'd be like damn If any of you take a really long drive Oh my god, I cannot get the word out adjacent city and then come back Yeah, I'm gonna get eight hours kippin and I'm just gonna put on wall as uh The force awakens videos parts one two and three Uh, and then I'll react to it when I wake up in the morning And the only commentary is the notifications. I think I've outpaced him intellectually Oh, well that that's a that's a hype of me. My only some of you guys would get that one I popped out of the Dalmatians event movies. Oh, did you I did I'm metal streaming a game for 12 hours with efep in the background do it You could you could And at the end oh, that was funny. All right, let's listen to myself Um, so yeah, that's that anything else you guys want to talk about before we will jump into the super chat portion of this stream Uh, I think I think I'm okay. I think there might be so The internet makes it like difficult when it comes to What we have traditionally considered to be the rules regarding like people's work intellectual property and copyright It used to be very clear because like memes didn't exist And streams where people reacted to videos didn't exist. It was always clear It's like oh, this is like the film the film is owned by x company Or like this is a book the book is owned by x person But now that it's like the internet and it's just people making things and a lot of what people are making that stuff out there Yeah, um, just in a day or in a week and because it's just individuals doing stuff There's a lot of like mashing together of existing things And that can create some really cool stuff that absolutely could which absolutely should be considered its own Thing its own New thing not strictly original, but original enough that it's not a substitute for what came before But then you get into the blurry areas like having a playlist of music that you put on your stream Or reacting to videos, but how much did you say how much did you say? or you know clips of things or like Mashing together of footage from movies and things like that and then it gets really complicated And I don't know that we've resolved that issue yet And i'm not sure what the resolution is to that problem Because we kind of can't have the system that we had before in terms of copyright Because that would like destroy a lot of what the internet is But like this surely is not what we want Where people watch a whole thing and be like how funny mean all right in the next video and then that's and then that's allowed I don't like that nope But I don't know what the resolution will be Yeah, I I'm very unclear on where this ends up But um, it seems to only be happening more and more because of course I think when we started this The rags you were saying like we're done with that era. It's dead sort of thing the whole almost stealing commentary the stealing content it was you would This was really maybe it was who knows why maybe it was just how I saw things No, I think I think it's fair in retrospective, but I do feel like it I I guess I thought that we were Past this to a degree But I think maybe we were in the this this huge uptick and this this renaissance if you will of of streaming I know renaissance implies like positivity and things this just this This this surge of streaming as a Thing maybe that has created this new wave of it um But I don't know the stuff that's recently happened Uh is a contributing factor. Yeah, like twitch streamers were doing a lot more in terms of I don't want to say stealing is such a harsh word, but I've been kind of a lot more Official content, but now it's been clamped down significantly and it's like oh, they're going to youtube now When I think it was a matter of they didn't even realize necessarily that was an obvious option until now I mean like well, nobody's complaining. Let's do it But I'm complaining Yeah Maybe a lot of them don't even think to think about it I think so especially if you're if you're if you're a pokeman or something and you can just do anything And you're going to be showered with positivity and money and affection and admiration Then there's no pressure on you to change or to be aware of what you do But the issue is that you have to push back Otherwise it becomes accepted and then it's over. You don't get worse and worse to one point one day It sounds like I'm not going to be here for the whole day. I am going to play seven videos And the stream I feel like the clear example is people used to pay for music. They used to pay a lot for music um Nobody really does that anymore. There's a reason for that And it was a slow transition to that Um And then again, I guess the music industry did try to push back. Maybe that was inevitable But I don't know. It's um, it's too hard to catch. It's too hard to stop. It's just yeah, that's I think that's usable right now to be able to stop it. I think that's the thing though Is if there's enough like social pressure of oh, this is bad. Don't do that Then it will yeah that puts pressure on people that is beyond commercial. That's what killed jinx enough people will like stop it Well, I mean Oh, I was like okay, man. She needs the help. You know, she needs the fucking I don't think if uh, she was put into a position to truly entertain um, that she could be truly entertaining in as much as I think yeah sure she'll goof around and do a Cat noises and probably roll around in the floor and meow and you know pull some funny faces and Say some shit, but I don't think that she could sort of like hold that up for a too long time Uh, she needs something. She needs a crutch. She needs something to To work off the audience is the crutch. That's the yeah. Well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah True she plays to a huge segment of the population And I I wonder I wonder what percentage of poke main viewers and fans Would admit that well It's gonna get real awkward though because you know that we're heading towards the age of like digital You know personalities or like digital content creators And once that and like procedurally generated and stuff like that tailor made to suit people's interests That's gonna put these people out of business probably because like maybe Well, I wonder because I feel like a lot of like this industry Especially what was the Bella Delfin or whatever like her whole shit was trying to look like an anime character But imagine yeah, but she's got more brains than fucking pokemon. Uh in a little thing She's a stabby business woman. Yeah, she's yeah, exactly But I guess that's what I'm saying is like what happens when we get hyper realistic computer-generated Bella Delfins that you can have like programmed by computer to do exact Clearly what you're there for and then that's I always feel like the inevitable result is we're all hooked up to machines like vi headsets Just marinating in our own sweat and feces just like totally Zonked out on procedurally generated content that is perfectly tailored to our needs I'm too dumb You know, that's you're saying all the right things to me This is one of those like many problems This is one of those bottom up kinds of problems where we see it with media all the time This stuff exists and perpetuates and succeeds and makes all of its money Because people have incredibly low standards and they will clap at anything and These these these videos these this this mcu stuff the disney stuff it exists because of that If people were discerning about stories and characters and writing This stuff would be much much smaller than it is And I feel like when you talk about like pokemon from what I've seen and that kind of content creator who just doesn't really Have a talent or does that sort of thing her talent is that she won the genetic lottery Yeah, and there's there's so many people who will flock to that And adore it and love it and will throw money at that sort of thing and that's the problem People there are so there are people who work their asses off and who are incredibly talented and who slave away at making Just masterwork content and they will never make anything Like what pokeman makes And she makes cat noises at that point you got to separate the money part That's all for the love of the crow And I guess at least like the knowledge that what you're creating has some sort of creative or artistic value That will presumably endure for a lot longer Or at the very least be more meaningful to people That's my dog noises. I I always do I all the noises I make are dog noises I can't That's all I make every day non-stop I go into people's houses and I try to figure out but but why why why is this cabinet open in this one? Is it how come this chair is turned this way? Why have you done that? Have you done it like we did it with Jared's room every little thing had a reason every little thing the the marks on the wall the there's No plastic cover for the light switches. That's everything. There's a story behind everything. I'm like Sherlock Holmes, but a dog And I'm looking around What brought us here? What got us to this point? Why were we still here just to suffer? Yeah, I feel like it wraps it up. I didn't wash my hands. Yeah An unfortunate thing that's happening and it's probably being done with the best intentions for the most part Unfortunately, you end up people like I said Hassan is apparently Thinks he's in the clear morally because youtubers don't work on it Don't look at him. That's that's the thing though I don't understand this one. Maybe you can help me out So I said the only reason we understand rags is because moller has the bone of scone Bonus scone. What is that a reference? I don't know. I do you like scones a lot I like scones. Yeah Fresh cream or flotted cream Um probably fresh Um, I'm a flotted cream So scones are like a like a like a cookie biscuit kind of thing, right? Yeah I mean for americans, you could translate it that way Like yeah a goal maybe or uh, no it's softer more more um Like any like a donut Yeah more don't know. Oh, what is it like cornbread? Probably not. No. No, you don't think so Um, it's if you have cornbread just because Yeah, I have actually I have had cornbread. Yeah, okay So I like I like cornbread. No. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah. I like it. I think it's um It's different and I yeah, I like I like the cornbread. Um Okay, so it's it's more bready than cookie like it's not like fade with batter It's it's like it's kind of like cake think of it like more like a cupcake base But a little bit more Sturdy substantial. Yeah, okay. Oh like a um Like oh, what's something my sister makes um, it would be weird if you know, uh, but uh, she makes this like, um This it's like this thick rich bread kind of stuff. Um I I forget it's fine But I I would someone said it's halfway between a cooking a muffin. All right Yeah, muffin it muffins a little bit there Franks if you've never been to a coffee shop before so that would be independent on whether or not I've had a scone Have you had something like, um an eckles cake or something like that or uh What's it what's a good one to use Eckles cake, um The those look kind of so I'm looking at an eckles cake and I think I could see what it would feel like I almost like a mini like uh like um Because I could see it's uh flaky a bit like like a pastry sort Bad idea. Um, I meant something like uh A flapjack would be too heavy Imagine that like So like a very very light fluffy pancake Like it. Yeah between like, um A flapjack and a cookie Kind of like a when you when you bite into it Does it crunch or swish? No crumble. It crumbles. Okay. All right Yeah, yeah The butter the margarine whatever you're using in it All right Is it is it is it dry? But not too dry Flake and crumble, but it no no a good one should be moist Okay, so it it will be so if you cut it with like a knife it wouldn't just like crack and No, you could get a good cup. Okay. I got you Someone said just need a scone rags. Well here. Let me pull the one I've got out of my pocket right now In munchie because I just I got a pile of them. I don't live in the j house where I just will probably Through sheer statistical Inevitability have a scone somewhere in that house. I did have a scone a couple of days ago I did have a scone a couple of days ago now So, yeah, I'm looking at these pictures of scones And I think I because a lot of them look like some of the breads and things that I've had so I I like it They're like a really Um like a really weedy Yeah Yeah, that's what I'm looking for a weedy sort of biscuit. I think I know I think I've yeah I'm almost sure I have had these in there some sultanas in there No, I like the way sultanas So like this here is like what like a scone bread would be like I want to give it No Like that where it's where it's firm, but it'll you know, it's it's soft at the same time Little crummy, but it you could you'll clean cut it Yeah, I've had I've had stuff like that. It's very very good. I'm a I'm a lover of rolls in my A couple of days ago Where the fuck is Chewbacca? Yes My mission is to find him. He's around just somewhere that whole piece of shit No, you've started playing video games. I'm playing video games. Oh excellent What I was gonna say, um, we're gonna uh, I've what I've got to say is do you prefer pumpernickel or rye? I don't know what pumpernickel is That's right Carry on. All right. So black muffins or cupcakes easily muffins. No context easily muffins Muffins are usually bigger than cupcakes. So I figure back. So I that is true Um, I just think I think that generally, uh, I found muffins to be a lot more I like the consistencies a lot better and the flavors better And I like the sort of the makeup of the the bread. They're less they tend to be less sugary and more bready So there you go. Uh, but I need to uh, don't wash my hands actually they get dry and It's it's interesting that he's they they they get rye The first uh No, okay, sorry I mean, do you want us to draw attention to the bad joke or do you want us to move past it? No, that's your decision to make. I want you to laugh at my incredible joke And now it's too late now. I don't you can pretend like time traveled real fast. I don't know Don't want your pity laughs. No, we're in the tba here. So time doesn't have yeah Yeah So we can laugh at the joke whenever you want Especially now we got free will Pretty neat Yeah Can got bored. So he allowed the will to fall into chaos to eventually come back to being with him in control I really liked the way that they forgot who Loki is so he could introduce himself next season and they'll be Like, okay They were really proud of themselves to give Loki everything he wanted in that finale and he's like no That is not what I want anymore Like ah I'm I just want myself as a female What's the good old kiss? I said it had the same energy as um rey and kylo kissing and someone left a comment saying how the fuck you can Pay these two um one of them went through loads of shit together and I legitimately have no idea which one they're talking about Was it loki and sylvie they went through a load of shit or was it kylo and rey? I don't know I don't know uh as far as I can tell neither of them. They're the fucking neither of them Hang out together for like two days. Yeah At most So passionately declaring that one of those pairings have been through so much. I'm just like well, what have you been watching? They walked they walked and talked and then they sat and talked and then they walked and talked and then they sat and talked It was incredible. They went through so much. I cried. Maybe I cried all angry joe get loki season one a 10 out of 10 But he gave episodes not 10 out of 10. So it doesn't make sense. Yeah, you're right He gave some of them a nine so well If if it averaged out to 9.5 plus would that would that be rounded to a 10? I feel like you should never round up with scores, you know He does his point. He does his point what I was Just got a point a nine point two Well, you know what he liked it and is that so wrong What no Yes Yes The liking terribly terribly put together piece of shit I mean, that's the thing man. Those people seem to love it and that means we're just gonna keep getting more Which is well, yeah, I mean, I did say that in my videos and I was just having a fucking clue why people are saying I love watching loki It was a thing Apparently it's ratings were 10 9 10 9 9 9 9 9 9 9. Oh god. I'm sorry It's in my jeans Take your jeans off Top saying nine nine It's all right. He's in his dreams genes or dreams after fourth right in my pocket Straight to blitz out But now you've got free will so it's not kang that's gonna dictate what you do It sucks that tony died before kang was removed of his throne because he never got to make an actual choice Um, all the characters names you now get to be crazy I did a cap when he stayed behind with Well, he's remember. He's not confirmed dead. So he might be able to make a choice Because they don't know what they're doing with him He didn't make the choice when he went back in time. Oh, yeah. Yeah He's too old to to be captain now though I wonder if there's any like existential crisis happening like people being like wait Something feels different like I'm free to do whatever I want I don't know. I guess it wouldn't from their own pov They would feel as though The decisions they all made were absolutely in line with who they are and stuff Why would the decisions that may create a branch instead of just being what happened though? Um, is that one of the the ways that um people theorize how like multiple universes is created whenever there's a choice being made at splinters Uh, I guess oh, yeah We gotta wonder like what that means in terms of this show You know It's a universe I was one of the things when you know, then they showed the sacred timeline splitting off into big Things I was like that is not how it would look but by the end of the episode It was like a bazillion fucking splinters on all kinds. I was like that's better. That's how it would look Yeah, oh well closer to it. Yeah um So anyway, yeah, we'll we'll start reading our super chats And um, if anybody would like to take the opportunity to jump out to do whatever they may or may not need to do Uh, I guess now is the time. Is everyone all right? I'll chill a little bit a little bit more. I'm good. I'm gonna play some gammas. I might as well do with chat That's illegal. So the first one is rags. Please evict rocket fuel onto my ham hams Um, I don't know because rocket fuel I feel like it would so I I worry what that would do if you wanted to like cook your ham hams later And if it's even would be like safe to eat or In the smell and I could it can't be healthy And I don't have too much rocket fuel on me Wink wink So maybe it's like an art project or it doesn't Maybe But rocket fuel must be really expensive. That's the thing surely like a lower grade like a like maybe like a 30 20% ethanol mixed with unleaded would be a lot more first off accessible Indefinitely cheaper depending where you are in the country Almost certainly cheaper than rocket fuel. I imagine if you're in California or something and the gas prices are really high rocket fuel is probably going to be You know pretty high too. I don't know if they go hand in hand or not Is that a rocket fuel? rocket fuel Watch the mitchell versus the machines not really a recommendation for you for movies. I just really recommend watching it. It's some great rap Any of you guys seen that or see what's now mitchell versus the machines No, no, I have not seen that. I do not know what that is I only watch bad content these days, right? So if it's any good, I can't watch it Yeah, I don't think I can take good content anymore. It's good. I couldn't have seen that for stories of the day I found chubby barker did it People don't want me to watch good content I've tried and it's like this is this is a good show and I just like Can you can you just start getting mad and shouting at stuff again, please? It's like, what do you mean? This is good It's unsubscribed We liked you when you did the mad thing Oh, okay. I only watch cw disney plus these days. Moodle probably Like hey guys, you got to start watching Superman. Yeah, we're not gonna watch your video if you like it My man Madficot sub count to the moon Um, I doubt we could get him to the moon But it would be neat for for a bunch of people to more to check out the channel It seemed like he was doing some good work Hey, um It was what we've done it a couple of times at this point if we like to be like, hey This channel's doing some stuff that kind of Bits a lot of what we try to recommend video assayers do so I guess we should probably be like Hey, this one's kind of a neat one instead of constantly saying avoid this one Because it's got poopy in its ear or whatever else If I can so many of the bounty hunters just want to throw bombs I just want to Can you guys just please just build things? Uh high rags Denied no no Well, do you prefer breads to cakes? Yeah, generally I do. I don't normally so icing wise What the fuck just happened So you have the icing that's more like whipped cream That's that's that's that tastes a lot less sugary and I prefer that Over I guess the older. He has no idea They're in the um They're they're in like the bags and you squirt them out and they can get they they harden up a bit and they taste super sugary I don't like those at all. The less is better. I don't this don't like it, but the whipped cream You are gonna love butterfly cakes Oh, let me google those those do sound those, you know, they should call them flutter buys because that's what they do But we'll leave that for later butterfly cakes Uh, yeah, you could try that because that sounds like it's gonna Hate that criteria We got a traditional british butterfly cake. Oh, it does. I can see why I see why it's called that so they are Yeah, um They are Oh, is it rather tasty? Okay, um Perfect for wedding and maybe showers that's fair enough two things. I hate I got lost for it. I was like perfect for showers. I was just like really I have I've got a cabinet in my bathroom. That's just full of butterfly cakes from the showers perfectly. I want to get soggy. Oh, yeah Is it the style or what it's made out of Which it's the it's the what it's made out of because it's uh, it's like a nice traditional kind of like cake cupcake Uh, but the tops cut out and instead of having like a thick, um, oh Oh, I see Cream and uh like jam Cream in there. So it's nice and light. It's nice and light Nice and fluffy Doesn't look bad. Looks a bit looks a bit sugary for me But it's not bad. I would definitely have one. I like it I like the look Definitely give it one I'd give it 10 out of 10 if it were a tv show Angry joe just beat it Talking about fondant. Maybe I don't know the name of it. I just know that it's that that's softer Less sugary tasting frosting icing. That's more like whipped cream. It's much softer Oh god, they're gonna make me search through all of the prisoner things to find chewy Or whoever i'm finding that's fine. I'm up for the challenge. What if chewy was in the other transfer? Set chewy free. I will Has anyone seen the bohemian rhapsody movie? If so thoughts if not, I highly recommend it Um, I have I thought it was I thought it was neat. Um, but all I remember from it. Unfortunately or whatever You could say about this is that uh, it won an oska for editing and it's editing is horrendous in many places Um, why am I still a video on something about this like yeah, I remember seeing that Where they all talk in some area and like the amount of cuts and like discontinuity is is insane for a movie That's just about people fucking talking to each other And it's something to do with how many reshoots the film went through and how many changes they made Uh during and after and stuff, but I remember having fun with it. I don't know that I'd call it good or bad. I really I just uh, I kind of watched it without thinking about whether or not, um It's tough with like, I guess biographical films because I feel like I should be on me to go and find out a little bit more about How much What in the story is even true or not? But then also trying to appreciate it as a story anyway, and sometimes I'm just like, well Just tell me about this person's bad stuff. I didn't know and I remember seeing that a lot of people felt like it was um, it was very Uh, cleaned up in terms of actual history And so a lot of people took issue with that. Um, I didn't see the elton john one that came out at a similar time I forgot what it was called rocket man, I think with um rocket fuel Tudgeton Tudger edgman Edgeson to chudger and to chudge isn't the aim Yeah, it's a good actor. Yeah. Yeah, it's um Aaron edgerton. Thank you. Yes. Hold your edgerton. It's gotta be it Alja edgington the third Hey guys, so what would you say is the best of the marvel disney plus shows now that they're done for now tough since they all suck Falcon winter soldier I would say falcon the winter soldier has one character with the asterix At that I hate it. I hate it. Yeah. Um, yeah, I feel like it it damages the mcu the least I guess Loki's easily the worst one. I don't even know Yeah, and then And then one division Loki like there's no way loki can't piss you off once you've had the conversation about what it means It that it did in that show I just don't know how anyone because at least with some of the other shows like well if you're not a fan of wonder Or if you're not a fan of blah blah blah Well, no, I think a lot of people don't even they're like, oh, how cool that there wasn't free will and now there is or something like that And you'd be like, oh man, just think about what you've said for just one second. Yeah um, I I used to appreciate the decisions characters were making not because That was something kang thought was cool But because I thought that was the meaningful choice they decided upon with their histories and stuff And I know for a fucking fact that the people who made it thought that that's how it worked And I feel like if they're out of the mcu, they're just gonna be like, yeah, whatever If that's if that's what you're saying that yeah, fine. Fuck you Um, and then yeah one division was was really bad the finale especially but uh, I feel like loki took the cake and so in reverse Again, I think falcon and soldier is garbage, but I think I said this on um on the real bbc Yeah, I liked zemo in it for the most part and I really like walker Walker and zemo are the only two good characters I've seen on um screen so far from disney plus Yeah No, it's the alligator The alligator. Oh, yeah, and and richardy growl. I like alligator loki and old loki was was magnificent at the end I like them a lot and to be honest with you, it's like, you know what you guys should probably hang on to him He'll he'll actually convince me to enjoy something Five minutes of screen time and just destroyed everyone in that fucking show by country mile Yeah, as you said, he had a better arc in his like five minutes than our main character of the entire season Yeah Yeah, that's where we are It was it it's clearly an accident like when they make these characters that turn out to be great They just it's almost like you throw enough darts at that dartboard eventually You'll hit a good score Well, yeah, there were plenty of people on twitter hated uh walker and they were like so annoying that walker like Turned out to be a good guy in the end He's a bad person and he shouldn't have they were like they were annoyed that he was portrayed as a person Who would try and save the people in the truck? He didn't do anything bad ever. No He's clearly a good person. He's clearly a good person Didn't we have that concern when we were watching it? We were like, please don't make him do something horrible Please please please please like because the writers could totally have done that and it wouldn't have made sense But yeah And then they thought killing a terrorist was a bad thing Well, we were worried about walker threw out the season because we could tell from the moment he arrived We were like, oh, he's gonna be evil quote-unquote evil So they're gonna When he screams, you know who I am. It's like, oh Look, he's in pain Good, they would have a camera angle like from a from a bottle looking up to give him like an evil Yeah, they'll play spooky music Yeah, just like no what he's done is fine That's not a wrong. He's asking for help. He's asking to uh You know for you two to come along and join with him. He wants to communicate, you know Communicate your informations together once and they're just like no There's blood on the shield as I've never got blood on his shield. Yeah, they never animated blood on the shield It is incredible that they were literally people who would post that they'd be like This is how you can tell the difference cap never got blood on his shield. It's like shut the Cap killed so many people He's a super soldier, what do you think his job is he's a kill people and break their stuff Yeah, he's an army man. Yep. Guns aren't for show But yeah It was the um I thought he was the best. I mean zemo if he had more time probably would have been the best but Walker was the best best the last time the better was zemo. That's the thing. Yeah, he was worried about him. Um We were terrified the giving him the win on killing the uh, the remaining flag smashes was really satisfying though I'm not gonna lie. Yes. Yeah Lloyd the chauffeur was it Yeah, it's his little alfred sort out the bomb Well, he was kind of like the anti Batman wasn't it supposed? Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the thing if they said we're actually gonna do a spin-off zemo show now I'd be like, oh no, please What are you gonna do to him? They said we're gonna do a zemo spin-off show and the uh, the rooso brother's gonna be right now. I'll be like, yes Oh, yeah, I don't well. Well, I give him a shot more so than the people who wrote uh, oh, yeah I'll take them over the I guess Yeah Well, I mean He's got out on skates. I think we should probably never see zemo again. Yes. That's how I feel I don't want to see him again. I just want to leave him alone Uh, but I feel like where's he's at. He's at the raft now, right? He should be returned to germany to the german prison No, I don't want him to raft. Oh, he's on the raft. He's on the raft now I know he should be returned to the german prison Yeah, well, you know what rags the wakandans feel they have the the duty to decide where you should go We're wakandans Which is entirely The point that the show is trying to make with walker and um american like intervention and then they have The wakandans just go we decide what happens globally. It's like, oh Okay Saying that it's awesome. Remember that the twitter account was like such a cool moment Even like even lefties on twitter were like, okay. Uh, this is a bit awkward actually because Probably shouldn't have ran in there and tried to assassinate america's hero Probably not a good idea And yet yeah, you know Oh, I saw the uh, I watched the red letter media. Um Review Yeah, uh, it was great. I think absolutely great Um, I've never known some two people who hate hate in a movie So much to just be so nice about it. It's really cool. Yeah I just got a vibe that they were like, yeah, I guess this is a movie you could say that I'm glad that people can't really just know how to use crap Can everyone uh dislike this video, please. Yeah Like video that we've ever had they said people could say that they did it because they hate women. That's probably it I just hate bad movies It's at 39% right now Brilliant Yeah, and a lot of people who've you know, knock on the joke will be like, whoa, what did they say? Geez. Yeah, it's 12k to 19k downwards Nice it shows how many people got to the end though, don't I? Yeah. Yeah Because I actually took a photograph when I was about Two minutes from the freaking end of the film of the video And I was just like, holy shit. What's going on with this ratio and put up on instagram Uh, I was like, this is a really fair video, you know, they're just taking a piss out of it And just doing it in a funny way and then um, like 30 seconds later, I'm just like If you got this far, just like the video, please We just really want to make this the most dislike video we've ever had I better pull that post down I know I was offended Blackboard was my favorite women Favorite women of all time Uh Scenario you have to watch the worst movie of the selected franchise. I choose star wars or terminator Two times a month with your undivided attention. Which one do you reluctantly choose? Probably terminator Yeah, I can't watch star wars So would it be like rise of skywalker versus dark face? I guess though Is dark fate worse than genesis Genesis. Oh, it's that's a tough one. It's always it's a tough one You're a forgotten relic from a deleted timeline Heads for genesis It is it's tales so dark fate so dark fate versus the rise of sky. I like for the rise of skywalker. It's not even a question but uh So rise of skywalker versus um dark fate To be fair, I don't fucking want to watch any of the sequels. I'm not even sure Which one I derive the most entertainment out of it could be rise of skywalker That movie is fucking stupid like funny stupid seeing dark fate I'm but I think I'd still go with rise of skywalker I mean, I I'm not sure which one I would go for it. Hey, which yeah, if we're doing alone at that point It's which one shorter. Yeah Yeah, well, I feel I feel like my brain just wouldn't give a shit about dark fate and it would just You know start singing to itself after about 10 minutes Well, they said the requirement is your undivided attention Well, I mean dark fate is 128 minutes rise of skywalker is 142 Why so long stop it they've got some stories to tell okay Can we be 90 minutes again, please and goff? I'll take an hour and 10 minutes. Yeah, let's do that 70 quick 70. Yeah Get your point across we'll be done real quick. Oh, five minutes What is that is 70 the minimum for a film? What's the minimum? There is a minimum actually no, um It's gonna be close to that. Yeah, I think it's like 80 or 75 or 80 Well, let's see feature length film I know that like with books they have generally a page count so Um, a modern feature is typically between 80 But apparently the screen actors guild says minimum length has to be 80 minutes But the AF I say if it's 40 minutes or longer, it's a feature film. Oh, okay Oh I believe I believe the first feature film was Ned Kelly So That's that's that's kind of neat. Hmm. Yeah the store. Yeah the story of the keller gang from 1906 was the first dramatic length feature length film that was made over here For a budget of 1,000 pounds I bet that was quite a lot in 1906 though. Well, it made 25,000 pounds. So I know that's uh, that's that's that's a new this whole moving pictures thing. It's gonna be big There's like I think That that film was only made like 25 years after Ned Kelly was executed. He's Honestly, wasn't it Ned Kelly Aussie? Ned Kelly. Yeah, he was uh That's right. Yeah, the helmet uh, that was like bulletproof. Um, I saw the alanda bloom film and that's how I know that Oh Yeah, he is uh He is like a sort of almost like a national icon, which is interesting considering that he was a criminal But yeah, he got that uh, he definitely got that robin hood um Sort of thing going for him Big dig a big trouble little china is only 99 minutes long and that film's fucking ace I think like 90 minutes and naked guns like well You say that with a lot of things like there are a lot of movies that are shorter than you would expect Um, especially a lot of older films That elusive quality of pacing can make you feel Uh, the same amount of time can end up being a lot longer or shorter Watch yourself for good films right now. Oh, yeah, I'll give me Just that little pacing and then you want to look at black widow and holy shoot That film was put blender and then it was given to the editor and the editors They just literally put it as they took it out the blender Speaking of which black widow tism's when and hi ragu Hello That'll be saturday. We're gonna do a full breakdown. I'm gonna go through the whole movie and I think Last I spoke to mel about black widow. You are ready to pounce on that film on you I I I am I have like notes and everything I have screenshots I took me four hours to get through this movie PowerPoint presentations It is quite the film And it's shocking how much is wrong with it and I honestly think that most people when they saw it We're just like, uh, it's it whatever it's it's it's action And it's just like but if you listen to what they say this plot line, man, whoo And we're gonna go right through it all it's gonna be wonderful Uh Rag I've been watching your videos from a few years ago and I'll say I'm really glad that people like Anita sarkeesian seem to have disappeared big ew That was plenty people to take her place. They're like fucking vermin. I don't know with weeds You pull them out. It's like well, I'm pretty sure that uh, jonathan macintosh has found greatest success post feminist frequency. Yeah His uh, he's doing it honestly. We covered one of his videos early on it wasn't it was a shitty video, but Yeah, it was well Oh, fuck. I can't remember it's too with gandalf and It was tlj. It was the the women's stuff and the tlj is about men learning to accept Yeah, I can't control from women or something like that Learning how to have the balls cut off learning how to be wrong close about That's a man. We're just like what being wrong. What? What's that about? We're here to teach you We need to stop the kang on kang violence. I mean kang is responsible for all violence Yeah, everything Man, there's a lot of things people would want to say to kang, but A lot of questions see this is the thing They don't even take advantage of their opportunities They create the fucking dialogue in all of that last episode of loki was shit You deal in with literally like the god of the fucking universe who decides everything related to the place you live in and they're just like Kill him Well, I just mean like wouldn't you out of curiosity just be like Fucking how does any of this work? How do you manage to control the timelines like physically? How do you do that? Well, loki kind of but the other loki was just like stab. Yeah, sylvie was obsessed with just killing him. He was like, okay You know Stupid We're gonna talk all about that the following week We'll get there Imagine that you have four balls over the wingis of course Do you shum twice as hard or do you take it twice as long to finish shumming? Wow So the amount of testicles you have probably doesn't have anything to do with your sexual stamina Um, it'll probably affect how much you ejaculate. I would imagine If I I assume that would be how it works Um, but i'm not certain well It does come from the testicles so Yeah, it'll rostate and the vas deferent these twos and all that sort of stuff I'm curious you would know the answer this question I get what it would mean to shum for twice as long But what does it mean to shum twice as hard? Is that a matter of uh in terms of like psi For you know that we're trying like hydraulic pressure that kind of thing Of course, yeah, there's the the shear force at which it exits the body. I assume would be what they mean by that Well, yeah in that case I I would be investing on the answer pretty extreme stuff There are a few who would tell you about it. I would prefer a long shum. That's yeah, I wouldn't want to you know Yeah, um If I had to double length or double intensity, I think I double length Enjoy it, you know Duration maybe yeah that sort of thing Enjoy your swang a bit of shumming See the music is on game, but you told me it's off. You lied to me. Why would you do this? It's still on Stop it All right, and we know where c3po is now, so this will be good It was nice of rick and morty to follow you guys to stream up of one of the worst episodes yet. Yeah That was yeah Super awkward spent the stream explaining Why rick and morty is well written and why a lot of the episodes are just fantastic and then they drop what we consider to be the worst episode ever Category I guess I know what I guess I'll know what I watched tomorrow before a stream. Yeah, you already have your opinion Three is one of the worst ever What's that sir? I think it was say episode three was one of the worst ever. No four episode episode So two was great like amazing three was really great And four is like the worst episode by a pretty considerable degree I don't even think it's up to debate like it's bad. It's outright bad which rick and morty isn't really bad It really fucks with the characters too Yeah, like rick was just downright acting out of character Oh boy, man. I'm under both of this Well, you know this there's not like there's no joke to laugh at in the episode You'll at least probably be amused by some of the stuff there was some stuff that I even remember I don't want to say it. So you have some fun like but yeah, it was probably the worst one It's not some fun stuff Like there's some cringe. I don't mind spoiling the cringe. Um, so part of the family is obviously it's the crazy uncle Grandpa man and then sort of naive boy And then older daughter and then mum and the daughter and the mum in this episode for some reason they were relegated over to Doesn't it suck how women are like taking advantage of in society and that's like the joke And their entire involvement in the episode is They suggest a solution to something and someone then suggests the exact same solution as a guy And then they're like, wow, that's not fair. And the one's like, yeah, welcome to the world of men taking women's ideas And at the end of the episode they're like, it's the men aren't even good at solving the problem when they have the information We'll have to do it ourselves literally just that Oh, they absolutely say let's Nancy Reagan this bitch I don't know. She was the one behind Ronald Reagan's success and Well, I think that's the implication which again, I find amusing because she did the just say no thing What man brilliant minds just say no how helpful Yeah, I'm pretty sure Dave she hell had a joke about that. Just say no. What's so hard about that? It's like Wait, this c3p was a fucking decoy Oh my god, but that we we remember the Rick and Morty the good episode decoys. I do Yeah, so um, we were all expecting there to be another joke on top of it Like they will start with a common saying like, oh, yeah men steal women's ideas, but then that was it It was like, yeah, which Rick and Morty rarely just does something that simple Yeah, you could cite the the retarded conversation, right? That's that seems to have both perspectives in it and then it ends and so it's just like you can make of it what you will Um, but this wasn't that at all. It was fucking like that. It's cringey not to mention the fact that Summer's idea fucks everything up Yeah, but they never they don't call her on that whereas again It could have been funnier if she kept saying that it was her idea and as soon as it went wrong like this was your idea Summer, what are we gonna do to fix it? How are you gonna fix this for us? Yeah, she literally a line is after her idea is taken by a man She says today you become a woman because of that. Yeah That's the end of the scene. It's not I would call it direct fucking unusual as hell to get that from rick and morty They'd usually make fun of that not do it Do you think well, you know who one of the rites is of Loki? Well, that's the thing, right? Yeah, I was about to say maybe that's the link here When you when your section sets in His comments on the videos uh Highlights and stuff that people say like please don't let this guy write this again like whoever did this Get them off the show. They most people are just saying this sucked like whoever wrote this Like time out get him the hell out of here Oh boy It was the first episode he wrote so he is one of the new writers Geez Imagine being that sorry the first one who wrote the bad episode. Oh like that's uh Yeah, well, I'm sure he thinks wonder how he got away. Didn't didn't he shit on it in post or something Yeah, but I don't care if you shit on it. You wrote it. No, of course It's this just that's just funny Yeah, you know, it's suck. Yeah, yeah, because um, you know If we're speaking a little bit more brass texts like the fucking the majority the episode is toilet humor It's like this poops is the coming and ass and you're just like, all right Yeah, come you know, you can make all that stuff funny and everything But it's just like it's really Common denominator stuff and rick and moody usually tries to have a couple of layers that jokes Yeah Fucking music Head out now because it's getting late and I I see Working stuff because fuck me All right Well, yeah, all right. We'll catch you around mr. Metal. There's links for you in the description as well Uh, yeah, you recently hear me. Yes. You recently passed 4 000 followers, right? Yesterday actually. Yes. Yes. Very exciting. You're gonna you're gonna drink alcohol for this occasion I'm I'm more and I'm gonna gather all your yours around And we're gonna have some some good old tranquilges. I don't know when yet because we have like all this efeb stuff happening on the weekends now Oh, yeah stocked right so it might be a little bit as you're invited as well if you want to I can pop your message So it's basically play games and get drunk. It's awesome Oh, I'm I like both of those things those things. I know right I like those things those things are good Yeah, I give thumbs up Yeah, I can pop your message tell you when it is and if you have time and come around and get fucked up. It's great All right, yeah, I guess I'll be ranting about rick and mori tomorrow then if anyone's interested And yeah, if you like youtube more than than the twitch There's the arc of channel. I think you'll link that to if I saw that right? Yeah Yeah, see it's all in there because moller is the best. So there you go Uh, yeah That's about it. I'm tired. So I'm gonna leave it to that do the chatting of the supers And go get your bonus five hundred dollar reduce or not. It's gone. You had your chance Yeah, anyway, uh Hey, why am I using the the other image? Why the change their image? I'll catch you all around. Bye Hey um Fuck mary kill bj blaskowitz senua and a really nice guy that looks and sounds exactly like the elusive man I guess I'm gonna marry senua Wait, I'm gonna marry elusive man Wait, who is senua? Is that the chick or is she called something else? Senua is the name of the uh, Hellblade protagonist. Okay. Yeah, so marry her Fucked in the head Um, yeah, but I feel like we can work through those problems, you know I would I would fuck her um, I've I'd kill bj because he's died before um That's not a reason he'd probably get over it and Mary the elusive man guy because I bet he's got all kinds of connections and All kinds of different things that he could do and he's super powerful and influential And if I die you can bring me back to life Oh Yeah damn Just like evanescent you bring bj back to life. There you go. Boom. We just uh Full so we just tied that up in a neat little bow. I say so It was nice of uh, oh wait right that lion shouldn't be called king of beasts when a grizzly bear could win easily Lion shouldn't be cool. Well, if you drop a humpback whale on anything, it'll die um It's like I've just never really thought about it is uh A lion versus the average bear. I'm assuming does the bear just win easily? Not the average bear you grizzly bears Oh, right, right. I think a lion will probably kill a black bear But I think grizzly bear will absolutely kill a lion But it will a tiger tigers are a lot bigger I feel like a tiger versus a grizzly bear is actually Grizzly bear wins matchup. Are you sure? I think the grizzly bear easily has it in fact I feel like the big thing that works in the tiger's favor is the tiger can probably run faster than the grizzly bear Well, if it's a fight, that's not gonna matter. Well, that's what I'm saying if the fight ever gets too bad The the um the tiger can retreat with more ease than the bear can I don't know the bear would win Well, no because you could tie the bear out and then attack the bear when it's tired that bear's gonna be I don't know if I don't have more endurance going to chase. Yeah, I don't I don't know if the grizzly bear will chase Um, I know grizzly bears are fast. I do know that they're fast like a human can't outrun them, but I feel like a tiger could um But tigers are like like felines are normally sprinters themselves. They're not endurance runners Maybe yeah, um, I guess I'm just wondering like a grizzly grair a grizzly bear is They're like 600 pounds Yeah, that's like they're fucking big and strong and while the tiger is extremely ferocious I just think the sheer mass And durability of a grizzly bear is just that's true tiger to but I mean I feel like a tiger's got the element of like better stealth if it could sneak up and land the first hit if it Can get a really I guess that would be my ball fight if it can get a really good hit in at first Then it will win and if it doesn't then i'm not sure I Maybe but I don't think that a tiger So I think we talked about earlier the the How is it even possible or how likely is it that one of these animals gets in a killing hit? Like how would a tiger actually kill the grizzly bear? Well, grizzlies are so right Yeah, but a grizzly bear is a big throw I I very a tiger is also a big throw it. I guess it's like I feel like you're underselling how big tigers are I can be taught either way on this. I'm just waiting for the arguments Apparently tigers can run between 49 to 65 kilometers per hour, which is actually slower than a lion Uh, and how fast is a grizzly bear? 56 kilometers per hour. So they're actually Evenly matched and running, huh? There you go, but a tiger can potentially get a little bit faster I Strength and durability of a bear Tigers are really big like I feel like I need to keep stressing that they're big like Siberian tigers are huge They're the biggest of the all the cats I think that the the bears got so much durability to it Why do we assume that the tiger doesn't have durability? It has some but I just think grizzly bear like the weight of a Siberia Siberian tiger is between 180 to 306 kilograms Yeah So someone's saying chat bears are pretty huge too. Yeah, but that's like self-evident That's why I'm trying to push back on it like in terms of the tiger We all know bears are really big People will assume that tigers are really small though, but they're worth 700. Yeah So the average adult male weighs as much as a tiger And I think the build of the bear The build of bear if you will Is it's gonna be just it's gonna be more durable and tanky Why would you say that when we've just now discovered that they weigh as much as each other? Well, I think that in the the way that it's structured in terms of its Like the way that it's built Okay, so I've I've cited to you what they weigh and you're not giving me anything You're just saying that I said the way that they're built into it like think of it this way. So a tiger is A like an ambush predator and it's a lot more in terms of its agility Whereas a bear Is it going to hunt in the same way? So I think it has a defensive aspect to it In terms of a tiger has to go out and get its prey So that will determine its body structure and its build type Yeah, whereas a bear doesn't have to do that. So it won't have the same thing So It's gonna have more of a like it's it's stockier in terms of its build and its anatomy and its body shape is going to be more Just I guess um more I would agree But to that end Does that not mean that the tiger has certain advantages? I would say no one on one. I'd say that's a disadvantage So I've just looked it up as well that on average a grizzly bear is Anyone in chat know how to get to c3px? I am lost A wildland federation says upwards of 700 pounds Um, so it says adult males weigh on average between 180 and 360 kilograms That is the average and the average weight of a Siberian tiger is 180 to 306 So they are roughly the same the grizzly bear occasionally edges it out on average and also that the The the the height or length of a Siberian tiger is between 178 to 208 centimeters and that a grizzly bear um A large coastal grizzly bear may be up to three meters tall on a time legs. Jesus Christ Wow Yeah, it's about the average length the average length is 198 So that means that they are about the same weight and the same height But you're also so If if there is anything that I want to be taken away from this conversation It is that it should not be a foregone conclusion that the tiger loses That's kind of the point I'm making I'm not confident that the tiger would win But I don't think it's safe to assume that it definitely loses if it was a polar bear I think it's safe to say it loses I would I would still say by by looking at them and By kind of sizing up the way that their bodies are built and the behavior that these animals Act in in terms of predation um I think that in a one-on-one fight the bear would win I don't think that I could say one way or another Um, I think that it's honest. I think that it's very debatable Um, I've had a gun to my head. I would bet the bear, but I I don't know I guess that's what I'm saying is I think I think you guys are underestimating tigers I would I want to go with the tiger Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm kind of I'm kind of rooting for the tiger at this point, but um, because he's an underdog Well, I don't I don't even know that it isn't on the dog I feel like I feel like it's just a matter of I don't think people appreciate just how big tigers are they're huge Like yeah, like when I lions Yeah, when I see like bear claws and things of that nature and all the muscle that's like I I just think it I think it's Let's see what tiger claws look like though Yeah, I I think it's more durable The bear is in terms of its build and its structure than a than a tiger is it's gonna be More built for chasing after these are that are running from it it's What what what kind of animals do you think the tigers hunt, right? Animals that don't run away from them when they try to kill them. That's what I said Wait, so so right so you're admitting that like the bear had to retreat the tiger the tiger's gonna catch him I don't think the bear will treat. I think it will kill the tiger I don't think that I think the tiger would be extremely hesitant to one on one the bear anyway And I think a bear would be the question is like if they have to fight each other Who's gonna come out on top? Yeah, I think it'll be the bear. I think that it's up the debate I think there's plenty of facts to support that Maybe we had like an expert in the field to give their uh Well, somebody who is an expert on tigers and bears specifically Well like the guy that went into the wilderness To hug bears and never came back and then he found his fucking mango body because Yeah, and you know what the tiger people tend to survive ringy. So there you go The tiger people do not survive And I wonder how much like I I'm not sure but I would imagine that a bear has a lot because of the environment that they live in In terms of climate in particular That a bear has Um, I'll try to be careful, but um, I I would imagine that they have a lot of The thick skin and fat that helps to insulate and protect them I wonder if Siberian tigers have thick skin and fat to insulate them from the very Yes, I was very specific about Siberian tigers Let's see Maybe um, I would imagine in Russia, but they live in Russia I still think I still think really bears would be just bigger and tougher and stronger and You keep saying that but like I keep telling you that the average white and high It's like pretty similar weight and height is not what i'm just referring to necessarily What you're referring to is what you see whereas i'm just laying like a like a whale weighs a lot, but it's just gonna lay there Right, so there's there's differences in terms of yes weight, but it's just that's the build and your Tiger's moved faster. It's anatomy. Yeah, but I don't think that speed is gonna be much of a Factor in this at all. I think it does if you land the first hit Oh What are you suggesting that the tiger hit it and run and then let it bleed out a bit or oh, no No, no, I mean like the tiger the tiger pounces and lands like a really good hit I think you have to get to take the bear I don't know if they could do that to a bear in a hit Well, why do we assume that the bear could do it to a tiger in a hit? Why do we assume that? Well, I I think a bear would be stronger I Don't know that we can assume that considering how big the um, how big Siberian tigers are Yeah, like apparently Siberian tigers kill brown bears no hibernation Well, I'm sure they do carry Piece of shit like It's not a blind assertion. I'm looking at them. I'm looking up some numbers on them I'm trying to take into some things into consideration. I'm not a fucking expert here My god Look, let me see could maybe maybe there's like actually a google We go to fight Yeah, that's why that's what I'm about to do Siberian tiger versus the grizzly bear. Oh my oh wow, there is Siberian tiger versus grizzly bear Oh, wow, what's the result? So this is what it says Um, Siberian tiger is a far better hunter than the north american grizzly bear both the grizzly bear and Siberian tiger Poor swipes are equally powerful, but the tiger is more technical than the grizzly The Siberian tiger k 19th are longer and thicker than a grizzly bear, but a grizzly bear is slightly heavier longer and taller um, so Yeah It's debatable. That's that's I think that that is inarguable at this point They've been sent to know stuff like, you know ferocity levels like I wonder which one out does well from what they that one said 10 Probably for both. I think I think grizzly bear has more of a willingness to fight than a tiger like a tiger I think so. Yeah, I would It's a more yeah, they're more ambushy and they have especially predators are gonna be Predators are generally going to be very skittish about what they attack Because a predator has to be on the move and it has to print like if if a if a deer gets hurt It's a deer, right? It could just its food isn't hard to get Right, but if if a tiger or a lion or something if they get fucked up Then that's that disastrous because they have to Go out and do the hunting of their food So a a predator is going to be a lot more picky and choosy and careful about its targets because animals Yeah, because if it gets hurt It then it it fucked like if it gets a wound on its leg or something It's screwed. It's going to starve to death because it can't hunt now It's really interesting. There are people in chat who are aggressively asserting that one would win over the other and there's both Yeah, really interesting. We might have found the tlj of animal fights. Oh, no No, it's good I see that a few people are saying the thing is is that like the tiger needs to succeed at first And then but and if not, then it's going to be a lot Like it starts to stack against the tiger Yeah, because I've got because I'm just looking through comparisons of both and each has strength And where I think the biggest strengths that would come from that would benefit from a 1v1 Like this. I I would give it to the bear I I think it might Which are its strength and it's uh, I guess I just I guess I guess what I'm finding difficult is like Every time I keep saying I think like there's so many factors at play that put them on something of a level playing field But that's debatable and then we just go. Oh, yeah. No, but the bear will win All I want you to say is that it's debatable which I Sure, I mean we're debating it now, but I think that the bear would win What I am saying is that I don't think that it that you can comfortably say one way or the other feel pretty comfortable I don't know why given all of the information that's just being outlined Oh, I I still think the bear would win. I still think that the um, I think that the the attributes That would matter the most in 1v1 Strengthen almost more importantly. Why do we assume this ambush wouldn't help you? Why I don't think that it could one on one because I think that the bear is super resilient Do we need to be more specific about the fight? Is it going to be like in a final destination arena thing? I I want us to be in a yeah in an arena Where the two enemies don't know where each other is because if it were in a jungle And they just both dropped in maybe that changes Yeah Well, I would definitely give the tiger an advantage I I would say that I think what I'm starting to feel is like if it was two of them in like a dome Like a you know, like in a wrestling ring Then the bear is probably gonna have more of a chance of winning But if we put him in a jungle tiger's got a better chance of winning Hence why I think it's debatable Who would win well the tiger would I would the tiger like verticality, but you know I would imagine that if it has stuff that it can hide in and things like that that's going to help out the tiger a lot Conversely if they're in a You know, like on a level playing field fighting with each other. It's like the bear You know, it's just like it's you know, direct brute force at that point People in straw pool straw pool only tells me what the audience thinks would win. Yeah, which I'm not I want to know because grizzlies will climb trees. I want to know what a cyber in tiger things. Yeah And I do Siberian tigers are pretty neat animals though. I do really like grizzly bears, but tigers. They're uh, they're cool I'd love to hug one without it killing me. Oh, I'd like to hug one, but I don't want to die So yeah, the cub visions are like some of the most adorable creatures on the planet Oh, I know I want to keep one and then it grows up and eats, you know, like Oh man, really? Okay. I should have probably given away after about three months And I wonder how much of it comes down to like the non physical In terms of if because because one is just a hardcore predator and the other Isn't to my knowledge I think bears are omnivorous and they don't like they'll do fish and Yeah, cats are just pure carnivores. Yeah, so I wonder if that plays a big part in it And it's almost like saying who would win like a gazelle or a I don't know Whatever like that would have a It could also be one of the things that's like mole versus rags and both have a knife And it's like I guess it could be either at certain points depending on how everything goes I would be curious to see if the modifier that the the lion recently ate one of the the bears cubs I wonder if that would like know the emotional. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if I'll make a difference like in a significant way Yeah, and I didn't know who wrote this fight Exactly. Mm-hmm. We we should just ask kang Yeah He knows all He would predetermine who would win tigers are a natural predator of bears. Is that true? Well, I think it was said that tigers can kill certain types of bears, but the problem is when we talk about grizzly bears That's like we're getting big and if it was a polar bear There's no contest the polar bear wins every fight every time Yeah, I don't I'm curious for myself and for others. What is it about the polar bear that gives it such the edge? They're the biggest. They are the biggest by far. They're massive. Is there anything else like claws or teeth or anything? Uh, so they're big highly aggressive. Yeah Super territorial Extremely strong massive Yeah, and they're extremely Installated so there is a I might be doing this wrong, but would you say there's a psychological element to the benefit of a polar versus grizzly in terms of It's like it's way more willing to Yes, I would say that's a part of okay. Yeah, whereas which which I think would I'd almost say Like if you because if a tiger was to kill a bear, which maybe they do I'm not sure I would imagine that a tiger would be pretty Desperate to attack a bear as opposed to other things that could be attacking Yes, some people say brown bears are what they attack and brown bears are very different from grizzly bears But I'm very uneducated on this and all those mean they are their friendly Yeah There was a movie called brown bear right and he was he was chill. I think brother bear. Oh brother bear. Okay. Yeah Oh, yeah, that's what that was When did that come out brother? Uh, like 2000 that was 2006. No 2003. Wow The the sequels right six. Yeah the sequels in 2006 the first one was in 2003 Is the polar bear The top of the food chain if everything were put onto a level playing field sort of thing Obviously, it wouldn't be fair to include fucking aquatic shit Well, if we're talking about that particular biome, it is absolutely at the top like me the arctic biome It's at the top But then if you were to like I'm not sure like if it was a grizzly if it was a polar bear versus a crocodile I'm not I'm not too sure like that looks like, you know Assault water crocodile specifically the ones like five meters long Um, I don't know Um Yeah, because they they're both they both swim and all that sort of thing. They're both pretty The crocodile's got just like a rock hard exterior. That's that's like the and the strongest Any animal in the world Crocky in the uh turtle The what's right. It's just like he's in the video of the crocodile eating the turtle. Jeez. No, I haven't It just it just puts in its mouth and it's cracking its shell like a no Yeah, they are huge jaws to Crack true man. Oh stronger spy in the animal kingdom um Yeah, I I I'm not sure about I saw some people saying oh the polar bear obviously again I want you guys to consider Like whether or not you're just assuming that the bear well because it's a bear Like I said the there's surely a possibility that if the tiger lands just the right swipe and just the right way Yeah, start the fight. It could uh Yeah, you know, I I'm assuming we all concede it's possible for either party to win. It's not an impossible. Oh, yeah Yeah, absolutely It is entirely possible and I don't even think it's like a rare possibility, right? Like if the stars align I don't even think it's that I think it's um, I think it's serious contest Yeah, I'd uh, I'd pay five bucks to watch I'd feel guilty as fuck. I feel bad. Yeah Yeah, I don't think it would be if we could do a simulation. I'd be fine with it. Yeah Because man like uh like alfred in batman and robin I created a Dude that man was busy when he was uh at his older age Yeah, I just had to make something in your size How do you know my it's fine moving on. Yeah, how did yeah, how did you know your niece's fucking measurements? You dirty old bastard Making a batman suit you're allowed at that point because it's so cool. I've died of my gregor syndrome. Leave me alone Also, yeah, so I've unlocked everything in this game I think now except just buying all the stuff which means all we're gonna do is just play some random campaign missions Well, I've got my bonuses on it'll be great. I saw somebody saying that it's it's it's like no contest with a polar bear and a crocodile I guess I'm just not convinced like Bad ass and all that but like Man, I don't know saltwater crocodiles. They're like They're like five meters tall. Is it a matter of if the crocodile gets that one bite in in the one particular way? It's over sort of well, I think it is that's the issue the one bite is like that that uh that that crocodiles got you They got you at that point like Humans can develop strategies to beat saltwater crocodiles like by poking them in the eye that that actually works But like I don't know if a polar bear will recognize that that's what it should do Yeah, because they're not the these are not two critters that are going to be familiar with each other. Absolutely. Yeah so I So I almost feel like Hmm, I don't know. I just yeah, I'm not sure Yeah, because they're they're in such different locations a polar bear is I feel like it would be like the crocodile relies a lot on it's as many, you know Predators do rely a lot on their environment to camouflage and stealth it as it ambushes prey And I don't think that would work nearly as well in an Arctic scenario If we took temperature out of the equation entirely and if this was in the Arctic Then I think it would I don't think that would work nearly as well But if we reversed it and said what if the polar bear was in A swamp or something like that. Yeah. Well, I feel like the polar bear isn't a bit of trouble if it's in the swamp. Yeah Yeah, um, I think this is one of those things where I don't think these animals would fuck with each other unless they were desperate No, no Yeah, I don't I don't see I think that's a big thing with a lot of animals is like they're not going to pick these crazy fights Yeah predators are not They're going to take the easy meals that they can because they cannot a a tiger or a Lion or yeah bobcat these these critters cannot afford to get hurt They're not going to cook a gourmet meal. They'll just put some in the microwave You know who I'm not fucked with though Yeah, honey badger Yeah, yeah I like the idea. I like how like mong mongies, you know kick the shit out of our snakes That's just really funny like That cobra is like they're not afraid of anything except for fucking mong mong Mongies, this is what about a grizzly versus a xenomorph. I feel like the xenomorphs dominate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So Yeah, I feel like the xenomorph is gonna kill anything on earth not to mention. Yeah Like even if it does lose it kills them with its blood like it's yeah any animal is gonna So most most animals are melee killers. They don't have projections. Yeah Yeah, no, that's where it's gonna. That's where it's gonna Unlike if we're putting in any kind of natural environment with is a space to surprise attack Oh that xenomorph. It's gonna fuck you up It I guess it depends on like how much what does a xenomorph smell like and if it does smell How uh, how well would another animal be able to notice that and adapt to it? I wonder if that's an element of fairness in terms of like should it be that we give that Grizzly the benefit of knowing the scent of the xenomorph ahead of time. I think we should I think we have to I think we have to make this marginally fair We have to give the grizzly bear all of the possible advantages It could get to even begin to make it fair and I think even then It would just even if it was just a 1v1 cage match The thing that makes the alien so hard to beat for the bear as well for those things is the the tail attack It just fires that thing like a spear into you. Yeah, it's it's like a spear and that's We had to do things like what about what about 78 snapping turtles versus uh Like a like an orca or something this is the weird stuff I can hope this is an orca nice Animal fights we'll have to we said we do a tournament for like video game characters We should do one for animal kingdom and we can't look at google. We have to basically just argue And then people go to the point. Wow No googling even though everyone like knows exactly what the answer is. We're like no Well, won't people just vote for their own? bias Oh, that was the thing we would figure out. How would we do this because um, maybe maybe you have any ideas for this as Do you like the idea that you put some video games characters against each other and then they're like, you know what we'll put Um, just to take we'll take galactus from whatever marvel game and then we'll put them against mario And everyone votes for mario because they like him or something to be like, um, only mario's gonna win Maybe what we could do is we could get some trusted friends of efap or some regulars and they Make a a list of match-ups that are You know, like they're not randomized, you know, but people specifically think of pairings for us to discuss So what if we got, you know, like das and goger and southpaw and um You know all kinds of other people and we sort of like theo He could he could probably come up with a great list of potential fights that we could do I wonder if it presents a problem if say for example, um Dante was in there Like i'm not familiar enough with his games to be able to argue whether or not he would win sort of things like that Yeah, I I I think there would be enough of um between us. We had enough Like to where we could skip if we didn't know And they did it wouldn't even have to be versus Uh, like a like a versus sort of thing it could be um You one that I a friend of mine when we worked together We talk if you were Isaac. Yeah, so you're Isaac Clark on the ishimora. Would you rather have? um tech powers or biotic powers To survive When you say biotic powers, what do you mean? Like mass effect so That would be like a mad like because we were both familiar with mass effects. So Kind of equivalent to telekinesis Okay Yeah, like you're like lifting people up and pushing them. So you know I guess I need questions like what's my recharge on that? Can I expend all of my biotics? and um You know with the I forget what it's called in the game, but he has like a form of a telekinesis, right? But it's a tech he has a stasis. Yeah That is science fiction tech. So I mean if I well, I mean in that case I want the science fiction tech because it means I have bullets and that If we were gonna say that because stasis is also a biotic power um It is a mass effect, but if I have it as a tech thing in in this game, then I'm just gonna take that No, it's like not allowed to No, no, no, I fucked up in my game Because because then we get to the well What if you were trapped on the ishimora remember you had to you had to repair the ishimora in escape So you're gonna want to it's not just the xenomorphs, you know, how much does you needing tech abilities To repair the ishimora and that sort of thing Yeah So that's it things can I learn that's the thing if there were like books on the station Can I learn how to become an engineer? Yeah If because if so that that changes things my answer anyway. Oh, yeah kinesis is what it's called in Dead Space, right Stasis is the one where he slows him down Stasis is slow down and then kinesis is where he moves stuff right um Yeah, and you know Bluish glow over it I could probably do with this with all kinds of things, but then I get real nerdy like all All comic book movie villains, which one is the the top dog? And I feel like this program being obvious answers straight away, but still I have no idea which one's supposed to be in canon the toughest I feel like We probably stick to the movies Nonsense power creep kinds of things, you know, like putting whiplash against iron monger. You're like, hmm That's interesting one. Yeah, probably whiplash Slipknot versus galactus Yeah, yeah, you think it's yeah when he you know galactus is really powerful But then you realize Yeah, he can climb anything We're already picturing it. He's like trying to grab it while he's swinging around him climbing He's just climbing And galactus like get off stop it. It's mad. He can climb anything Is SPC we're playing? Yes, it is Dead Spaces 3 is not a bad game. It is definitely worth playing through We'll do a call play through that eventually one day I do residential six as well I'm it's the only one I'm playing because of the um Like transactions. Yeah, well the well, yeah the acquisition from from EA and uh You know, I just it looked like they really depleted the horror element of the uh Not as no, it's definitely definitely not as scary as the other two gameplay wise. It's still pretty good Um, there there's there's there's a lot of good stuff in Dead Space 3 but Kara, but but I I don't think that I don't recall the writing being particularly good. It's serviceable But from memory though. It's been a while since I've played it. Uh, the story is Don't even bother The environments are pretty great. Uh, I think that of the three Games the potential for Dead Space 3 could have put it above the other two if it was done well Uh conceptually, but the gameplay is still pretty darn solid The pc version runs well and controls well And there's a lot of gameplay, uh in mechanical options that you get In terms of customizing your equipment and things and the different kinds of guns you could get Um, but yeah, there's a lot to like about it, but it's definitely the week, uh of the three Something I like the first one the most. It's just so such atmosphere. It's I just I love it Imagine you mix and match enemies as well as like characters to fight in this lead of order And you're like, okay mario versus and then creatures from Dead Space He's like You have to jump on them and stuff to squish them You have to jump on their limbs Um, well, I was thinking you might need the just the the flower power right and you can just set them on fire Yeah, that's true. You can set them out of it, but here's the thing. Uh, there are flame throwers in Dead Space that you can use And they're they're all right um The they're good for you know tapping to you know, conserve ammo. Well, I wonder how much you'd have to You can fire those uh flower power balls forever as as long as no as long as he doesn't get hurt Because then he'll just if he gets hurt once then he he deep powers into super mario So he's got to really be careful. Yeah, I assumed we were saying assuming he doesn't get hit by anything Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think it goes on and on or until he fit Yeah, and if he finishes the level he still carries it on so yeah, that's uh true as well But I wonder how much flames would do against A necromorph like if if you just started throwing fire, I feel like it's the It has to be the intensity because if a flame thrower just isn't intense enough It's just now you have a flaming necromorph that's running at you and it doesn't care about the pain and it just wants to kill You and now it's also on fire. How long can it keep going at you until the fire disables it? Have you watched the um, have you watched the anime? No, I know about it Oh dead space. Um, yeah I faint memories of it, but I remember I watched a little about it Was it the anime that was between dead space one and two? Is that when it came out? I watched something that came up between them the ishimura. I think it was the At least the one I saw I think was the prequel to dead space. It was it's the pre yeah There's the prequel which show what happened to you Did you ever unlock the foam finger gun of dead space? Yes, I did I have all of the achievements for dead space one and two I played the crap load out of those games I was damn good at them too, but yeah, I love dead space one and two Please all right, but man, I played the fuck out of the first two I was very much in love with dead space one when it came out. I was This game is fucking cool Do you remember the um is freaky man remember the dismemberment demo? That's what it was called Um, that's what got it at least with my group of friends. It was uh Dead space two dead space one like the on the 360 is just like the dismemberment demo and you start and it's just like this Alert and someone on the ishimura is just like you've got to take off their limbs. It's just like oh my god Wow It's like emergency stuff. Yeah, and then it's just a really cool Sort of environment and atmosphere and even the weaponry feeling like engineering sort of stuff and then the enemies are so Gory and horrifying That's because it's a cool cool universe Kyle asking question. What's more dangerous the flood or the necromorphs? With my limited understanding of halo Um, wait, are we including all necromorph types and then all flood types, right? I assume that it's a it's a nature of both of them to change their forms based on what they infest Blood because they just don't stop coming and they I was gonna argue is it a problem that we have to consider their origin points? And then is it is it the hive mind or something in halo that Like you consider where they come from and then what their power levels are and stuff Um, obviously the marker In terms of fighting them The the actual combat against them I think that the flood would be deadlier to fight against like on the ground on an infantry level um I think the necromorphs you can kill With more ease or at least with less difficulties probably the better way to put it than the flood Is that a in terms of it's how many bullets you reckon it takes or for some other reason? um part of it is bullets Uh, another part is you don't necessarily have it in terms of With the part of this will depend on the armaments that you have But flood are They especially when you factor in infection forms and how many of them there are I think there would just be too many to deal with Maybe that's the namesake necromorphs seem to be less of them uh Whereas the just the infection forms of the flood which don't require hosts Those would be a significant problem in terms of how much like Sheer ammunition expenditure and Is how many of them there are um, I for instance, I would rather fight necromorphs than fight the flood um, however The flood where they are more there's a lot of spores and that sort of thing to them the necromorphs because of the markers Have a psychological element to them Which it might not be something that you could even Fight at all um Because when it comes to the the necromorphs you have a A somehow I think it's I think it's uh, I think it's from the markers itself. It's proximity to markers not the the necromorphs themselves, but this this this uh psychological neurological paranoia suicidal tendency sort of mental disorder that you get from it um And and I think that the flood are more able to intelligently Go about their efforts. I I think the necromorphs are more like what happens happens kind of thing um Or the but I think they have plans like at the end of this phase three three There's like there's definitely a plan that they have but I think that grave mine just More sapient in a sense so it can coordinate their efforts better Than the uh, then the necromorphs can Um, but I don't know. That's a toughie. They're both really really they're both really bad space bad You don't want to fight either of them really Yeah, I want me I like to meet any of them in dark alley way Do you remember the ones that are like they're like kind of like Chicken things they run real fast in dead space. Um, and they high burn corners and stuff You got what they call. Oh, yeah those ones. Yeah the chargers I think they are called chargers. Um But they scream Yeah, uh I feel like the leaping capabilities of the flood Are already like the chargers aren't really that bad at all. They're definitely scary Oh, yeah, I didn't mean them for much. You know how they it'd be so weird to fight that in real life But I think you could probably sell them out Oh, yeah, I don't think those would be among the more deadlier kinds because they're more ambushy And they're well, of course very predictable. Most deadly is probably going to be that the invincible dude, right? Um, I think I don't think he was a natural necromorph. I think that he was if I if I remember it that was a human creation based on experiments where um And I think flood forms Arise I can't remember a lot of this might come down to the sort of the nitty gritty of how they get to new forms and How autonomous they are and their methods But yeah, I'm not sure and a plus I'd have to go back and reacquaint myself with how like the necromorph moons work um And stuff like that. I'm just not sure um Definitely definitely a toss up. I I just know that on a on a ground level I would rather fight necromorphs. I think I think necromorphs would be more manageable Then it does feel a little bit intuitive almost to argue that it would be the the flood are more dangerous if they've Stand like in their iterations are most often against space marines Is the question who would I rather fight the flood or Wait, which are which are deadlier the flood or necromorphs the flood And I think that the flood are the deadlier ones I think the flood of the deadlier ones just by virtue of the fact that they're like spread as a parasitic Organism and like even one spore can create an entire outbreak whereas with necromorphs The markers are like the big part. Yeah, they if so if we if we have it in the sense of if there is a marker nearby Um, that definitely shakes things up, but the flood don't require that marker No marker as well the flood as far as I know are purely a they're purely biological Whereas the flood have a mental aspect of their Their weaponess they they emit a signal well, it's the uh, it's the oh, sorry you meant you meant backwards It's the necromorphs that are Will the flood are controlled by the grave mind which is intelligent and can like yeah, but the flood can make plant Or but the necromorphs can make plans as well Yeah, I think that the grave mind is more intelligent and capable of exercising more like cohesive and concise plans Like I would like I would imagine the I think the grave mind would is smarter than the necromorph consciousness To whatever degree it exists, but I do think the problem is we don't fully understand like the brethren moon thing Yeah, right before you I was saying I needed to the moons might play a big deal. I don't know what they do exactly off of memory and what they're And plus I think I I think the moon is just an In a way, I think grave mind is the same way But like a grave mind is an emergent property of a sufficient mass of the flood So the flood would I think they would both probably Gain power where they just sort of get just become progressively more and more and more powerful You just can't let them get the foothold But just in terms of fighting them I'd rather fight necromorphs and one of my thing was I think the infection forms of the flood Are a huge determinants in that In how vicious and numerous they are Well, I guess um When we have plus or lower explanation the only way to beat the the flood is to kill yourself. So like that's uh Well, remember that's how the aliens tried to kill the uh the necromorphs as well They they froze and they froze everything on the planet Um So that's been so similar. It's just yeah, they they are similar. Yeah But I know if I if I had a if I had an infected a flood infected human or an elite Barge in my door as come as compared to a necromorph Um, I that's tough One on one. I one versus one. I think it's tough. Um I'm not sure. I think the problem is I'm afraid of being infected by the flood whereas I'm not afraid of being in fact I'm afraid of being killed by the necromorph. Yeah And if I kill the mac that if I kill the necromorph the threat is over But if I just shoot the flood until it's dead I've still got the problem with spores and stuff Yeah, that's the thing it's I think I would I I think I'd take my chances with the necromorph Is kind of the whole thing the flood are unstoppable unless you've got like giant cruises that can burn them Or alternatively when everything's dead and they can't eat anything Whereas with necromorphs, you just disassemble them and and they're dead. You you dealt with that problem Um There was yeah, I'm assuming the people who are alive to fight them aren't yeah infected by the mark That's the thing it's a markers play a huge role in it because the thing I don't know how you fight a marker If you're a person and you go to fight the necromorphs. Yeah, yeah, you have to find a way to destroy a marker And yeah That's it. Yeah Definitely sort of different things I think the the necromorphs might have the edge in terms of being defensive because of the marker The the worlds that the markers are on but in terms of galactic conquest I feel that maybe that I think the flood kind of have it Especially because I think they're more organized with a grave mine to knows. Oh, yes ships and interstellar travel and things of that nature Who wins in a fight between one flooddy boy and one necky boy? um That's tough I don't know. Yeah Because flood because flood even individual can shoot guns though. That's yeah, that's what I was about Yeah, exactly. I was about to say a flood can it retains certain intelligence from its host so it can fire weapons And necromorph seem to be they're much more bestial Um, I'm gonna try and stab you I'm gonna run at you and try and stab you So it depends um If the flood doesn't have guns They're still strong So I'm not sure on that one It's difficult to say. I think it could go either way. Mm-hmm well, then I have no idea where we were in the super chest to get to where we are now But I feel like we've we've discovered a lot about who would win in many different fights been very educational Uh, anyone remember the gigantic this is the worst time. Oh, yeah Stop responding to the sick of fans True Yeah, yeah Anyone remember the gigantic black bear at the end of fox and the hound that thing was massive loved that fight thoughts That's a good movie. I like it a lot, but I haven't seen it in ages Yeah, I haven't seen it. Yeah, I remember he's very thin on that one. Um, hi rags Hello. Hi frog daddy g Yo Hi as Hi Hi molla. Hello and hi chat. Wow and hi that one dude who bumped into me yesterday. Uh, I guess and hi german Oh, no, he's not here to be disrespected. It's okay DS2 hot tub stream now. He's gonna do it. You gotta reach a certain, you know amount of followers. That's how it works You need a hot tub to just keep yourself calm as you're playing that game Oh, hey, look Perfect, uh, super chat anyone play the sub sub nautica games. I know someone here who does Yep Uh, what's what's the quick review of them? The great the great sub nautica ones a little bit more sandboxy so you can really kind of get lost in it. Um Sub nautica below zero Is a little bit more linear, but it's uh, still tons and tons of fun and I actually Do a sub nautica sunday stream. I honest on a sunday, believe it or not. Hmm You go around discovering crazy things in your little ice water world, right? Yeah, my little ice underwater world doing Some weird shit. Yes Um, everything that happens is written here don't read it or anything so that you know what not to do The show is stupid. Yeah, um, they did a devs rags. He was like I've got all of this stuff in in my hand of everything you guys are gonna say and they look at it And they see that that stuff they've said already And I was just like read ahead And then counter it Yeah, don't do what it says them what? I guess you create a divisions and the fucking whatever It's just it's just annoying whenever characters have that opportunity. They never take it There's a whole show about this really fucking annoying me It's um, I don't know man. It's just like it's right there. Oh, it says you're about to walk over there It's like I guess I won't and then he shouts at you because you're ruining it I don't see why not If you had x number of versions of yourself all go to the same store Look at the same jacket and all of you are going to make the same choice or not Um A friend told me that you're always going to make the same choice because the environment is always the same It's going to dictate the decision you make input determines output thoughts So, um, I I suppose you would you would get that impression especially when understanding What it means to be in a deterministic universe like how is it that You would make any other choice. Wasn't it always going to be this one? um, maybe, uh, I think there's I think there's some aspects of like quantum physics and how particles behave where There there's some there's some tism about them in terms and how it could mess with determinism though I don't I don't know enough to The quantum quantum sort of is just like Different to the way that we understand the universe to work beyond quantum, right? Is that yeah the new tonic physics isn't Yeah, I can't predict everything in that sense and there are there are levels of the universe and Places and quote unquote times where it just isn't applicable. So fascinating. So I don't know. Um I just think I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, um Well, so, um, to maybe give an answer they're looking for, um, because I'm assuming this relates to Loki I don't get how Loki can be born a girl. I don't understand how that could possibly happen If everything how does that happen? It and it's just like it just did and you're like, okay how does So Kang must have determined that then I guess that they would argue Everything that could ever happen in any way shape or form in any way order has is on the table Then there are like 10 billion branches per like millisecond. Basically. Yeah As far as I know only one woman Yeah, which is weird, right? Yeah, I I don't think that the world is actually deterministic um though It is to a degree But it isn't really truly deterministic. I think Quantum part I I just stuff I've heard is quantum particles and like when you get down to really really teeny tiny stuff and How they behave on their own weird freaky level It just goes You can't just rewind and everything would just be exactly as it is as far as I know But I'm not gonna worry about it too much. Yeah, you don't Need to worry about it Don't worry Do good things Yeah, do better You've got to do better senator Yeah No, you don't understand. I I'm a black man wearing stars and stripes. What don't I understand? Then you need someone to be like that wasn't anything I can't even know why you said that Um Well, what don't they understand They I don't know I tell you what they they understand how to play the game of basket. Yeah You should be president. He understands it everything get him in there Ah Nice work boy, you're maniacal laugh still gives me chills mate. I love that reveal in bio shocks awesome It's um, you've already got all the information you need but when when atlas is getting all like excited because he's he's won He's like nice work boy. Oh And it's it's great. Um, it's a great way to Make a narrative out of a game In the sense of like you don't even think about it in the sense of oh, you're playing a video game These are your objectives. You do them. Of course you do. I mean the sky's telling you to do it Yeah, there's helpful guy display. Yeah, that's what you do to progress It's I I'm playing a video game and then they kind of use that aspect of it being a video game to um Add something to the narrative which I I definitely really super appreciate I thought yeah, there's there's something to talk about there thematically like in video games We're almost like automatons in terms of pickup gun and you can shoot it and you're like I will yeah That helps the line kind of does that where it's like, yeah, you meant to kill those guys They're shooting at the bad guys kill them Would you kindly wait? What the hell are we doing here? Like Like what is the mission? That's why it's just when you replay the game and he's like go to Andrew Ryan's office and kill that son of a bitch It's like that's totally normal that he would say that at this point in the game But because what you kindly before it after you feel anything you're like, oh man, you are a manipulative bastard Good old frank fontaine and atlas. I swear to god like I haven't played by talking to in a while now, but I just remember still my disappointment with sofia lamb And like this is not the same they're trying to recapture it. It's not working Thank goodness. They made a lot of gameplay improvements. Absolutely. And I love being back in rapture, you know Oh, yeah, they they really they were able to successfully nail the atmosphere a second time Then it was interesting ideas in there. I like big sisters as an idea I'm not sure if it lines up narratively that much or anything, but they were creepy Interesting. Yeah Having not seen Loki whenever you say kang I keep it having images of crying from tmnt pop in my head Maybe he was better than this guy Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, I think that would have been a great reveal. Honestly We just got benny from tow or eco instead I mean, maybe he will be any from the mummy I remember benny for the mummy Good times. I always felt bad that he died Even though he's kind of evil throughout the whole film It just feels more he's super opportunistic and he probably could have been a good man The right things that happened, you know But he died for his own greed That's what gets you that's what gets you he did sell out the heroes quite a bit in that film though So Yeah, he was kind of a dick. I look forward to watching that free fat movies whenever we get around to it because It's a neat movie from what I remember They just get better and better as it goes along, huh? Oh, yeah Mummy 2 is even better. Mummy 3 top dog. They stopped at 3 so like we've peaked and not getting better than this Um Random question just got buffy box at hood first season sucks. Do I endure it or skip it you endure it? It's um, it's It's not gonna piss anyone off that season. You'll watch it and you'll be amused by how, you know, this is some mid to late 90s replacement shoestring budget tv content and You know, they're trying the best the characters are all in the right place It's just the the plot lines are pretty funny Uh, and just again low budget is hard for them to pull off what they're trying to tell you is happening You sort of just have to go okay. Yeah, I get it Um, there's some stuff in season one I like and it's definitely not something that'll piss you off go for it And it'll get you way more invested in the characters when you get to the latest stuff because you'll have seen where they all started Um Loki episode six the 40 minute end credit scene. Yeah insane I think um, I've seen that consistently said already. Oh boy This is part because obviously i'll watch it with you rags at some point probably just to get you caught up But um, this is bit you you you last saw them seeing the building, right? They take fucking ages to walk to it and when they finally get there They go to open the door and then they're like no She's like I need a moment before we do that and he's like, oh Uh, okay I'm just awkwardly like looking around Doing some kind of like random joke Sort of Dialogue and you're just sitting there like what the fuck is happening get on with it get in the fucking building There's like no no Gonna sit here for a minute Then they walk through each room incredibly slowly And you realize like a third of the episode has gone by and nothing's happened yet. You're just like quite amazing You're quite amazing how you managed to drug your finale out Yeah, because they clearly didn't actually happens in it. They didn't have six episodes worth content. So no they had to do Yeah, I mean, you know if we're being completely honest, uh, it is a weird season when you look at any true Yeah, they should have just saved the money and just put a notice on screen saying Hey, just go watch the next movie It's got Kang in it. Maybe Yeah, it should just release Loki as a trailer For whatever movie Kang's gonna be in At least it wouldn't have done as much damage to Loki's character if it was just Cut to be him going. Oh my god. And then Kang going Uh, this episode was so This episode was so academic Now that is a reference to uh, yeah good old which by the way, um There was different people commenting on how so I guess you guys have never heard academic used in the way of saying like It's purely academic to discuss something Meaning it's foregone. Like it's it's done. There's nothing interesting to come out of it No, yeah, I've never heard that used that way. So, um, there are contexts in which I've heard purely academic um It's being but so uncommon compared to saying like it would be academic in terms of to me evoking the environment of like Study like a school of science or a study. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And so the problem here is like when you've got a word that can represent two opposite ideas and you have a sentence That doesn't make it clear. I don't really like to me. You still need to redraft that shit Um, yeah, I like it like like if you you said, oh, that's that's jim. He's an academic You know, that's not a no one uses that as an insult. It's like no, he's he's a learned man He's he's smart. He has degrees. He's gone to school. He really knows a lot about a subject. He's a scientist a researcher That's the that's a buy-and-fart of the primary kind of use That it gets it was all very strange because um in context you're saying like you'd be very academic to compare female Loki to the new doctor who if you were to do Um, just on the fact that they're female not when making actual points Unlike most of his video. He was not making actual points. He was mostly gunning for um Hey They both do Like the the doctor and Loki both do this thing that plenty of characters have done in their entire Existences and you should be like, yeah, that's not really they both come from planets that have Um developed cities on them Like yep, I guess so Like asgard and gallifrey Gosh, they're just so just so darn similar Um, so I feel like you would have said but yeah, um It is worth mentioning I suppose Oh, yeah, check out southpaw's video on the mitchell's versus the machines. It's absolutely incredible Now, I don't know if he's referring to the video or the movie or both, but there you go You're curious about mitchell's the machine southpaw's got a video on it I feel like jaws is close to a 10 can't think of too many flaws of the writing other than how oxygen tanks react to Bullets, um, but at least it's a setup in the movie Uh How do oxygen tanks typically react to bullets? Do you know this right? Uh, they just go poof and because all that pressure is being released They don't they they explode in the sense of A sudden breach in the container causes all that pressure to release all at once in an uncontrolled manner However, there's not a fiery explosion that sets everything around it a light You can't like you can't even shoot gas cans that gas cans don't explode when you shoot them They leak out the hole. You just put in the gas can Um, it would have to create a sufficiently large enough spark or something. So maybe Yeah, a lot of things happen in army of the dead, um Few of them made sense But oh that'll be worth asking um as when he's uh, if he's back What do you think of army of the dead because I am curious to find people who like that movie Oh, I uh, I know they exist. They're out there somewhere. They've gotta Gotta exist this this man keeps getting to work They'll be so excited for the anime series is coming out and the prequel movie There's an anime series for army of the dead. It's come. Yeah, eventually I'm genuinely not sure how he how he fucked that up Rag tag group of mercenaries in a zombie infested vagus. How do you fuck that up? It's always easy Such a just this is practically right step one have the film being focused Whoa racks. Whoa. Can we slow down on these steps? I'm already lost Ah, hey as what do you think of army of the dead? Oh, I can't be bothered to see that nonsense. Oh, you haven't even seen it. Damn No, well, it's not very good. I'd recommend against it I think I uh drink it in like it either right I try to remember who's covered it If I can get away with not watching a piece of shit, I'll I'll do it. Oh, there you go That woman season three you're gonna avoid it Well, I'm into I'm into deep with my uh You've got to see it through. You've got to know how it ends. Oh, I don't want to see it through if my audience just went hey as Take your sabbatical. I'll be like fucking thanks All I want is for jacob to return in the season three finale And you mean you mean the series finale Probably yeah, but just I didn't like, you know the fun. Yeah, he left. Yeah It's genuinely like he gone. He's gone. He gone way A portion of why I genuinely enjoyed watching the show is that it'll be removed. It was like I enjoy watching him. We got we got Ryan and have like some not as funny version of uh, k and no jacob No, you know what's happening next season Uh-oh, is this do you find out in season two or? Well, it's on it. It was reported uh in uh the casting because it's already, you know Um, basically being recorded now Um, but if you wouldn't I mean if you don't want to know I want to say but No, I mean it's gonna make a mockery of everything of ryan's character Wow, uh-oh, even even though she is a mockery of a character. It's it's It's mockery seption. It's mock seption. It's it's not a spoiler because you won't give a fuck anyway. No, no, no, no, no, no spoilers Well, wait, okay, I'm okay with you telling us if it's Found out from third party if it's in the episodes of season two, we probably want to wait for it, but Is it have you found out? No, it's it's from uh, it's from um newspaper reports after the show's finished I'm okay with that if you guys are okay with that All right go Season um Well, actually there is a last Second reveal and the last episode Well, you know what hang on to this stuff and uh, we can save it all for our uh, a big round table Nice old teaser. Okay We we are still we will get through our bat woman. We'll get there just yeah I just remember the one of the characters says something Which is why yeah, okay. No, I'm I'm gonna be strong All right. All right. It's all good I'll grab it baby It's funny how the lego marvel games that I've been playing replay Replaying have a better story than phase four so far feels good watching the mcu kill itself Seriously, this is one of the situations where it's like, oh, you know, this thing has a better story than that It's like we're the fucking bomb of the barrel. You'd think most things really do have a better story than this like Fuck when you put them all together man. It's insane Phase four is off to a great start Phase four is gonna be it and this is I can't wait for Eternals That's the one like I think it's gonna be a cluster fuck It's gonna be so weird because I wonder if I I do wonder if I'll watch the film and be able to remember any of the main characters names when it ends And one of those ones where they're gonna have to really try to characterize because how many of them are there of the Eternals 10 I think 10. Yeah Well, I'm sure there'll be more important ones, you know Yeah, probably there'll be important ones and not important ones. No, no, you say that but Well, I'm not sure I'm assuming Angelina Jolie is probably going to be the important one. Yeah, I assume she's no No, it would it's meant to be um It was meant to be Robb Stark Richard Madden Richard Madden who plays Icarus. He's meant to be the leader of the Eternals but The director that they got has apparently said that she wants um The asian lass to now be the chan. Yeah, so she's gonna be the the lead of the Eternals Oh, so you're saying that we don't know who's gonna be important at this point Yeah, it's it's all over the place as to who's gonna be important. Who's not gonna be important Um, I guess that's weird because I distinctly remember her being the last one to be cast But she's the main character of the story Yeah, they wanted to get it right. They wanted to get just the right person Well, I remember it was like they they brought out their big cast and then later on they were like, oh and Gemma Chan because she was in Captain Marvel So but she was blue so she can you know, it's not as big a deal. I guess Um, I guess I just find this point for me. It's just alternate dimension. Yeah, it's fine. Isn't the multiple Well, yeah, well, I mean, I guess that's the thing is now look at it I'm like, well, I probably can't be it can't how the fuck could it be worse than Loki? Well, I'm curious. Is it gonna play in from Loki like is it gonna be some kind of connective tissue? No, because I think this was meant to come out well before Loki initially Um, this movie was meant to come out last year Um, it was meant to be the second one after like so the black widow and then then that and then all the Disney plus shows were like kind of after that So I'm guessing that it won't That it's it's gonna be its own thing Like they just happen to be they're woken up now, I guess For whatever reason. Yeah That's gonna be so exciting and Imagine you get to that you get that right after Shang-Chi the film that Everyone's super excited about Well, you know, it's gonna be probably have cool fight scenes If it doesn't have cool fight scenes I'm gonna feel bad for you because you say that every time we mention Shang-Chi If it doesn't end up having that I don't know. I feel like it's gonna have cool like martial arts fight scenes. Like that's that's a stick Well, at least you'll get to see your favorite abomination It's gonna have oh, yeah, my favorite on the wire. It's gonna have wire based martial arts scenes Well, not just have people like fighting each other normally Yeah, I that can still work out. It really depends on how they do it. I don't know But I don't know Like can we just Yeah, and then no way home. That's gonna be oh man. There's so much So much loops to go over The conversation on no way homes We're gonna be going for a long time considering all the moving pots and it's probably gonna be quite a A point for the MCU story in terms of what happens next where everyone's at because so many people are gonna be Well, it's interesting you say that because I'm pretty sure that there was an interview with Zendaya where she said that she Along with the rest of the cast don't know if they're coming back for another one Like it's up in the air at the moment Well, the contract runs out after this next one. Yeah, that's right. Yeah I think I thought there were two more I thought the agreement after no way home was that there were two more which I'm guessing Two more movies of spider-man's in so I'm guessing that means he'll appear in doc the strange. Maybe You think the last one will be home sweet home well No, this is the last spider-man movie right now that is like agreed upon You have to manage imagine there's gonna be more though such a fucking Thought of well Yeah, I guess it's just sony and marvel need to cut a deal which they probably will Because I imagine sony wants to keep that money trend going You too Yeah, especially now that they're making all their little spin-off movies and shows like Phantomenomobius, right? And craven and a spider-woman movie and silk an amazon tv show And uh the sequel to uh spider-verse, you know, it's funny There was a point Relatively recently where people were like, I'm so done with superhero content finally where they're probably entering the end of it It's like it's probably the beginning It's gonna be everywhere constantly Everyone's bringing out 10 shows and five movies Wow, yeah I mean like there's gonna be there's I'm pretty sure that there's gonna be six marvel shows that came out this year by the end of it And I think are you gonna watch uh, what a No, um, yeah, I'll I'll get the cliff notes from free. I don't think I'm watching that well I don't know if I want to go through all that If it's if I couldn't if we can treat it as non-canon and there's no stories being built off it Well, there's no canon. It is non-canon. Santhology different universities. Yeah, I don't trust that they can tell good stories If I don't need it to fucking understand what comes later than fuck it Yeah, sure But we still got to watch everything else this small thing. I gotta I gotta see shang-chi probably Yeah And the tunnels Yay And then all the stuff that's coming out next year Eye and heart That's uh, that's animated right or is it? No, that's no That's uh, that's like part of the mcu Like a whole last movie they're doing for eye and heart tv tv show a tv show with eye and heart And um, uh, she oh god. I'm gonna have to watch that Moon night and there's uh miss marvel There's a whole guy I sit here and I'm like well if I look at the if I look at the stuff that's coming out right now It's like which one's got the most chance of being shit It's like all of them Well, the problem is like I look at something like miss marvel It's like I don't know. I feel like this probably has the best chance to not be the worst fucking thing Because like it's its own thing like it's a brand new thing. She'd have no characters to assassinate Um No, I mean like she's She's never been in anything in the mcu. You mean you mean a debut for the um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay So you have no character to assassinate. Well, that's not true. Sylvie was introduced in Loki and got assassinated at the end of Loki Not to mention that Dead characters can get assassinated. We know this is true. That's true But but remember like that stuff has to be captain marvel. So how does she get assassinated? You know like who even who even is captain marvel? How do you assassinate captain marvel? You know you we sound like generals in a war room Discussing the potential ways that our army is going to be obliterated by this other first Which of them poses the greatest threat? Yes, they could they could storm this beach with their tanks But their air force could come in from these carriers and destroy our ground forces here Yes, but they might come from the sea to the north and destroy that's what it is You wouldn't expect the southern armies to pose a threat. Would you and as I do not underestimate the southern armies? You Yeah, we'll just have to see like wood you bet your ass you can assassinate playing away anything Maybe it's you baby. They'll destroy anything. I was gonna say no everything's off the table You might catch us saying in it however long wow, they ruined captain marvel That might be possible Wow, maybe she'll like betray the crew or something you guys are bad too Oh, not the creator fucking whatever the scroll scroll scroll Maybe they'll ruin them so much They'll go all the way around the horn and they'll be good. They'll just keep going They keep accidentally writing characters like walker and we're like this is actually getting interesting again Yeah Right we're taking him away I look forward we almost want to right you almost want to be like, okay, okay, okay We're having him because we do not trust you to take him forward. We'll do it now. Thank you for making him. Yeah Yeah, I know you did it totally on papers. Yeah Please leave him alone because you're probably gonna make him kill people innocent people at some point and be like, no that's just what he does Well, he's the us agent now. So he's under the control of madame hydra What's the thing I I do not trust them to make him do things that are in line with who he is I just I just don't fucking think they will Dude, all the people who write all this bullshit. They're probably like, uh, walker us agent. Oh such a piece of shit But yeah We'll we'll write for him. Sure. We'll get him some I'm trying to help people want to see ever accomplished except for getting a medal of honor Three times three times. Yeah, they did not think that through Yeah, it's just like look at this loot. I don't know if they were trying to play up I don't know if they could the sort of attitude was patriotism bad So the more accolades they gave him as a soldier Uh, the more they thought they were sticking it to people, but it just made him like, oh, this guy's really Really devoted to his country. He's uh, he's a really great soldier. He's a perfect, uh Example of somebody who should be taking over from me and steve rogers and it's like it's hard to say that Any particular medal defines any particular trait, but having three medals of honor. I'd be like this guy's probably incredible That's like three vcs, isn't it? It's it is the highest honor in the u.s. No, it's like it's fucking hard to get them. Yeah Well, most a good chunk of them a poster You got to die Yeah, I was I was messing up the word posthumously. Yeah, something like that Once you're not a human anymore posthumous and then they give it to you posthumous posthumous post hummus We will give you your reward after you're having eaten the hummus, which is a beautiful chickpea blend Thank you Yeah, I'm beyond frustrated and I'm supposed to like I love salmon bucky and they abandon him I'm I'm I'm I'm sort of like he saves their lives and then they ditch him Yeah, that was cool. Really did not sit well with me you mean the people who um gave up this shield because I can't kill the enemy come back after he tried to kill you you have to give us the shield now I don't know what we expected you to do with that. I love that. Yeah, give us the shield It's like hey, buddy, and what was the first thing you said that you guys okay? You didn't like Yeah, that seems like Why the hell would you write that if you're gonna make him a bad guy? They treated like he's holding a detonator and like you got to drop that Yeah, like they they can get it later like you'll go back to base and he'll yeah, like it It's fucking I hate that scene so much They just fucking attack the shit out of him Yeah, and then they break his goddamn arm. This is the we talked about it on the stream We did but that is the time he needs he needs a fucking hand. He needs help. He's just gone through something So traumatic. He's watched his friend die our two leading villains instead He's like, oh that that show ruins I think my favorite part is how walker says you don't want to do this to which bucky says yeah We do it like post you just you just want to steal a shield. That's it. It's all it's ever about they want the shield No, it's not just that they want to take the shield and they want to hurt him Yeah, well they fucking hate him. They hate him from the get go They want to hurt him for taking the shield that uh That he gave up It's immensely fucked because bucky watches his inauguration for lack of a better term And he says that he was inspired by cap He's like the most normal person ever and it's exactly what cap wanted It's like the perfect guy to take up a shield, but both like I don't like you and then he shakes his head Well falcon Shade steve in it, doesn't he? Steve didn't know what he was when he's giving the shield to a black man Oh, dude, I would pay good money to watch steve come back and just fucking shittle over Shittle over falcon bucky and isiah. Fuck them all. They have no idea what they're talking about Fuck you. You didn't exist until this show go away. Yeah, he's like are you a scroll just like pokes him Fuck out of here, bitch Oh, so so bad, but yeah, what we're dealing with I'll be profile in the in the project Excuse me. Is this man bothering you mr. White man? Well, I always found that scene really awkward because the two of them were arguing in the middle of the street It's like cars move here. Like this is this is where cars go Not literally this white man was just trying to cross the street until he was accosted by this avenger He was an avenger what the hell Who's odd been probably been on the face of every publication for last six months for saving the world And he was probably paid for appearances, but he's you know, he's very no, he wasn't he's got no money Even though scala your handsome has how many how much money she's got all the money to buy for all of this equipment. Yeah I think we even said that when we watched it. It's like, oh wait. No That's it. By the way, that's it right there the plot required that falcon was poor The plot required that scala's answer was rich. It has nothing to do with cause and effect So we need them to be in these positions shut up It's just crap It's so crap But it makes them more relatable Itop says as he watches falcon it's like I have money problems and then nothing until the rest of the season's over Like that's all it takes I swear to god, I almost want to make like just just give me 10 million dollars. All right. I know that's a small to you Disney hero show that is just a superhero trying to pay rent. That's the job Well, I would want to go further It's like we get him to just he goes to an alleyway woman's like, oh help me and then he punches the guy and he's like My fist. Oh god, that really hurts and then the guy's like, oh, I'm leaving And he's like another woman's like I would like to pay you with sex And he's like I would never do that because that is inappropriate Then he goes home and he's like oof and he takes off his glove and he's like my hand's got a bruise on it now I I need to put a plaster on it. Oh, no, I don't have any because I can't afford them Oh, I'm hungry tonight. Oh goes goes to work and his friends like you shitty job And he's like I'm not shitting my job. You guys just mean to me a lot I feel like I'd be like, oh my god, this is so good because he goes to realize struggles Oh And then said the falcon one of them said to him don't don't you get paid by the avengers? Wait a minute. Not how it works How can it work any other way it wouldn't make sense Something I just realized that you pointed out there more of like high top not adhering to his own standards Wasn't the big thing that he praised about Superman and Lois was that it was like unrealistic in how good Superman was and that was a good thing He said Yeah, he said something like yeah He was weird because um, he's simultaneously said like the Snyder Cut is awesome because it lets You know Zach Snyder take Superman the direction that he wants to and then he said It sucks that we're in a world right now where everyone thinks Superman should be much more dark and dour and realistic And he shows all clips from Snyder stuff and he's like I love that this show exists where it's like not doing that it's like but Are you against it or not? I just I never know Well, I guess that's the thing is like I I don't mind the idea of a depressed Superman is in like not not angsty depressed But like legitimately depressed Disenfranchised something like that he hates living or something. He's just like I really don't like being alive. It's not it's not it's not pleasant to exist But he feels like he must exist because you know it's like gotta help people Yeah, and so maybe the whole point of the show is him trying to figure out How he can how he can you know make himself happy while still trying to make the world a better place What is the balance? That could be something Hello boys watched old boy for the first time man. What a movie. Uh, what about you? Do you have any favorite foreign films? Um Yes, masquerade Yes, masquerade War of the arrows. I like that one quite a bit Uh, great chase sequence at the end. Uh, I really like it a lot I've seen wreck or record. I guess you should probably I've heard it's really good, but I haven't seen it some The I'm pretty sure I saw that film in the perfect scenario I didn't quite know what the fuck was going on, but it it starts out and there's just this um This news reporter team and they're like this is a local fireman And they do their fireman stuff and they're just going around like fire truck just like yeah Like oh, we got a job and like oh cool We're going to come along and just see how it goes and they end up an apartment complex Where there's a zombie infestation, but you don't know that like it is You can pretty much pick it up relatively quickly if you look for the signs and stuff But it's all done with a handheld camera because that's the news report Sort of atmosphere. I remember being so fucking like gripped by the way that they did everything in that film They did an american remake and I hate it I heard the remake is bad. Yeah I love uh, the yeah the korean version of old boys amazing, uh, butter royale from uh, oh, yeah Uh hard boiled Chewy and fat that's some that's some great um I gotta say I love me crouching tiger hidden dragon and uh house and flying daggers and hero Yeah, yeah Let me say there's gotta be other one, um I like this movie called the lives of others german movie. I haven't seen it a long time But I remember thinking it was really good. Oh the hunt. That's one of the best Not to be confused with the hunt 2020 We want. Yeah. Oh, right. That's not out. Yeah. Yeah, that's right But the hunt is very good. The hunt's terrible. Don't see that. Yeah, um, I hope that wasn't too confusing Yeah I'm trying to think of Um, I don't Watch that many Uh But I've definitely seen some good fun. There's been a lot of fun It man. Is that a foreign one? Yeah, I'm pretty sure Yeah, that one's really good. Um Huh I I'm I'm trying to search my mind Well, I'm gonna give you a pretty good selection. I think Yeah, I think so. Yeah, not all of you've seen all of them. Otherwise, you're a liar I'm some fire. Yeah Go captain alex A classic Um Y'all's take on the Wolfenstein series I like new miss new order is great play the new order Um new classes fucking skip it That's not worth your time Wolfenstein's all right, uh, the young blood. That's all right That is the controversial opinion. I guess. Yeah, I guess it's super controversial that that game's all right That's the only two sisters. Yeah, that's the one But everyone loves The rags it's mechanically it's sound right is the is the take I think it's mechanics are totally sound. Yeah, absolutely um But the protagonists are fucking insufferable and the story is retarded Um Which of course is going to color a lot of the rest of the game because the protagonists are well the protagonists and they won't shut up Um, but yeah, I environmentally I think it's really excellent. I love the environments in it Um, I've never found the experience in leveling up system to in any way really impede my progress Um It's definitely yeah, I never had an issue with any of that I never had an issue with using proper weapons against enemy armor types I'm just because I'm old because I'm like older than seven and I understand how game mechanics work Uh, never had an issue with any of that stuff. Uh, I thought it played pretty well and I enjoyed it No, I'm right. Speaking of annoying talking protagonists. Right. Do you remember amnesia reboot from that game? I do. How could I forget? I it's such a foul memory at this point Like I hate rebirth. I hate rebirths. Fuck that game so much I hate it Um, yeah amnesia what uh, maybe the big is it the biggest video game disappointment that you've ever had? Well, so yeah, this is the thing It would be like well, what about last of us two and uh cyberpunk It's like I wasn't as invested in those two IPs as I was in the development team as frictional games I never in a fucking billion years would think they'd release one of what I think is the worst horror games ever Absolutely really It's not even supposed to be possible Yeah, even cyberpunk. I was like, I don't really care about the cyberpunk setting myself But the company's really good. They make good stuff. I've loved their games in the past Uh, this is setting up to be a really big thing. Surely this will be an amazing game They know it's writing on it that turned out how it turned out So I said, okay, no moved on And then there was last I never never cared about the last of us won all that much so I didn't care about the sequel Um, that would be the one that would be in the running But yeah, it can't compare to my investment in I value my experiences with amnesia and Selma to death like they are incredibly good things to me and so To tell me the people who made those two made that is like I don't agree I'm I'm curious about frictionals next game, but almost in a medicine's Are they gonna fuck it up as much? Well, that's the thing. Why was I buying their games before? It's like, well, this are an incredibly special development team now. I don't know that Now I like buying the game. Why would I buy that over any other horror development teams game? I have to be convinced by trailers now Yeah, if I just want to get spooky then I could go to better places Because it was with soma and with amnesia. It wasn't just about being scared It was the story and the presentation of it all and it was the cleverness of the dialogue and the details and the mechanics that I really loved They really made interesting and unique experiences. They made the The horror experience I think and no, they It's not a horror game. It's not even a horror game. Rebirth was crap Um, it it really does blow your mind. Um, how how about it was? Yeah, and I played disappointed you more mass victory or rebirth rebirth disappointed me more mass effect three I really liked for the most part It was at least fun to play And there were some really good Really really good moments in mass spec three, but rebirth was just like nothing about it was good Yeah, again, we've got a five hour discussion on that if people want more specific Yeah, check it out. We've got an e-fap talking about amnesia rebirth It's the doozy We don't like that game. It sucks. I played the original amnesia because of weird amount of weird amount That a lot of people did it for the same reason. It just got around. It's like this is the game to play for horror So more I was like I will keep an eye on whatever they make next and I was blown away happy with that So they were just in the good books, you know, whatever they bring out and They're not in that book anymore You blew it. You had it all and you blew it. It really did. Um, again I have to stress because as I'm assuming you have no context for this They have a mechanic in the game We're yeah As you're walking around in the world it will randomly Uh, sort of shine bright lights and spooky images at you while going Now okay And it happens at some points it will literally happen once per like 20 seconds And you just keep walking around that keeps happening now, of course you may be aware of this phenomenon It's known as a jump scare people people people have very Critical things to say about jump scares, especially when used in that way The devs obviously got a bit of pushback on that They were like what the fuck is this and the response was they are not jump scares. They are fear flashes Ironically as a way to defend themselves That was an ironic they weren't they they said it as a as a defense Okay Talk about disrespecting the fucky. We're not Like are you kidding me? Like come on Actually totally different from what you think it is I'll just throw that game onto the pile of references when people say of course i'll pre-order from this company They're great. They could make a bad game. Yeah We really never seen that That was the year for that right like it was um naughty dog Frictional and cd project red all three of them failed us miserably What could possibly go I find this is why you make people earn their money You don't give it to them and hope that they earn your money after you gave them your money I feel like with cyberpunk though the warning signs were there And like they were ignored Well, you could say that for lasmas too Uh, you definitely could for that as well. I guess the problem is like There was a parent like a hype sort of Thing happening with with city project red specifically by certain youtubers Um that developed almost like a cult of personality around them And so when it's like hey wait the review copies are only on pc you can't plan on consoles What the fuck's that about nobody said anything or like um Oh, the early review sets like buggy as fuck. What the hell is that about? um Yeah, I don't know. I feel like the warning signs were there for that one We should have caught it. Well, I think I think a lot of us kind of realized so that game was Yeah, I didn't play it until I like knew I had to play it for the e-fab I haven't played it since it would be interesting to discuss It's a it's a brand new mainstream game from a company that everyone loves and it's it's a possibly rocky release So we'll all give it a go and have a chat about it because ultimately it doesn't matter What the game is if if I told all of you like you got to play the next fucking mario game And let's just say it's the easiest playing it on pc whatever like yeah Okay, I mean, okay, you know sacrifice a couple of hours of a day and then we can have a big topic about it We can spear off into other topics about design. It'd be easy and this game Hmm Yeah, I mean, I don't I I haven't touched it since we we did our e-fab I and I'm really not interested in playing it. Well, presumably give it a good Yeah, I'm assuming once enough time passes that it will be In a good shape. Good. Yeah. I don't like the dialogue or anything They were totally either fucking idiots I just hope that I don't know it could get polished up because I didn't hate playing it It was fine to play fine. It was fine. Yeah Um, so maybe if you know a year down the road or whatever It's really great or maybe if they ever launch a big dlc for it Which is I imagine they'll probably do it's got a big enough install base Yeah, I figure that maybe when they release their big dlc Whatever it is Because that's I that's probably gonna be their big You know, umf kind of moment where we got to get people back is with that first big dlc Yeah, which are threes dlc were fucking stellar because what you want is people saying? Oh, no, no, no, no, you need to come back like cyberpunk is not the game. It was on release Yeah, the dlc It's almost like a rebrand in a way where it's something they got to do something because it's in people's hands and They've got it on they've got it installed on computers and consoles and things So hopefully hopefully something can happen because I want it to be good You know, I always want more good games, but I just I still know I right now i'm questioning and I shouldn't have to but i'm questioning. Just cd project red have the capability and the talent to Make that game good or was it doomed from the start? Well, it was cyberpunk even the thing that they ever wanted to do Well, what is clear is that that game had significant development issues Yes The game that came out was not the game that they were working on in like 2013 And the seemingly the lie commonly agreed upon was that that game only started being developed in like 2016 That is not true They started developing it when that fucking trailer got released like 10 years ago It got restarted. That's what happened They probably because they had a scope that was impossible Yeah, I feel like they started with an idea that was very doable But probably enough everybody was adding ingredients You are you know, yeah, we're gonna do this and we're gonna add this we're gonna have this too And we're gonna have three branching this and we're gonna have this and this is this Yeah, talk about it. Talk about a no man's sky situation Yeah, well, and um, this is like a massive this is the biggest company in fucking poland Yeah, it feels confused The person that sort of exemplifies that most is uh, peter mollin you right the guy who like I promise the shit for He was yeah, he's the guy who would often say like, oh, this is what's gonna be one good fable game Well, so the thing about that though is that and I could be corrected on this I'm not sure but even fable one would that be a game where he'd made false promises because that's like his thing He did he said uh, he said that you plant the acorn and watch the tree grow. That's not in the game Yeah, I did enjoy the first fable, but two and three fucking I hated people tend to say Yeah, like what you typically hear is that I haven't played fable, but I think I played a bit of fable too But what I often hear is that fable was not what was promised, but it was a good game Um, I'm not sure that is so much the case for the ones that come afterwards I'd be curious to play it again because I haven't played it in many many many years because it was ogx Box game I would be curious to play it again for some nostalgia because that's one of those games that I would play with a friend where we'd pass the controller back and forth and try to do crazy Challenges and it was it was fun. The graphics were you know, they had this Oh, yeah, like Danny Elfman, I think did the soundtrack for it and It was good. There was there was some good stuff in there and um Well, they're doing a new fable now Uh, the guys who make the um the forza horizon games. Oh, that should translate well Yeah, no, right? It's called fable card Weird connection to that by the way with with karting just in general I don't know if any of you guys ever played mortal combat um armageddon. They had a fucking go-kart mode It was like fuck. I don't remember that. It was relatively developed Like it actually like someone took the time to work on it cyberpunk was relatively developed Funny because it's like you play this fight a game. It's like would you like to play the go-kart mode? You're like, what? Okay, um, because more common deception had a fucking chess mode. It was like, yeah, all right Mortal combat deception chess I can imagine a battle has been quite good fun. Well, it was I don't want to I don't want to shit on it because the way the chess thing would work is the You know, they changed it all up. I call it chess. It really wasn't like chess at all There was a couple of things you could see would were like chess But the idea is that you have your characters Try and take the pieces on the board and say your best pieces. It could be like the bishop I think they're called champions. They're not your main piece lose them in the king to die You have two champions and they're the whoever you choose to play your champion. They will have full health So say a scorpion you have 100 and if you go against a pawn a pawn will have like 40 health So that's like the way it works if you attack a pawn with a champion It's much more likely that the champion's gonna win But you still have to actually do the fighting game portion. It's like, you know what there's an idea there. Not bad Who's other stuff to you could cast spells and everything Oh and puzzle combat. Yeah, they had a tetris Man, they're mean you like my fucking yeah, they I remember liking more combat deception just for how cute all the effort was in terms of They're like a full campaign as well Just that's the one that had like 50 building character Armageddon's the one that did that. Um, and I had a full campaign. Yeah But uh, and this thing I don't mind a really cringy campaign and you know, lots of bubble I just I'll appreciate if the game functions. Okay You kind of fucked that up Struggled with lately on pc Yeah, they didn't they didn't follow through on that one Mortal Kombat 11 was a pretty bad port too. Like it was locked at 30 fps for the fatalities and stuff No, not just the fatalities but in gameplay like with those fatal blows Really distracting. Yeah The menu was 30 fps Like what the hell Armageddon had no fatalities really That's not really. No, that doesn't sound right to me. I don't know that there's been a Mortal Kombat game that didn't have fatalities That sounds weird, right? Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember getting well enough. I remember deadly alliance and deception well, but and shallow monks Get over here, bitch That was shallow monks, right I'm pretty sure they're fucking this um you fight. I can't remember who it is It could be you I'm going to be making up half of this and not the other half Okay, but but it gets the point across you play as a kung lao and Why am I fucking luke hanging kung lao? And you just go through like a multi combat wield and you eventually fight like all the standard bosses And I'm pretty sure at one point you fight reptile And then it is ending cutscene you like kick him into a fucking lava pit or whatever else He's fucking dying with his arms up and then he tends to a thumbs up right before it goes down It's a fucking t2 reference. It's like what the hell is this doing you? It's such a rat. It's just like yeah, we like t2. It's like yeah, okay Yeah, yeah, I do too. Well, yeah um I can't remember if it was actually reptile. It was someone else, but yeah, I don't know You know, it was it was scorpion. It could have been scorpion. Yeah Obviously, you know, it was a good choice because I still remember them doing it so Impactful that's what that is And the terminator is the character in Mortal Kombat 11 true Yeah So Maybe it worked buttering up the people then they wanted to butter up. I would say so Also, logi episode one was so bad. I dropped the show I don't know how much pain I can go through and 1184 sucks ass ain't no defending this whole shit. Yeah, I know, right? Fucking and yet And yet people will try Uh also also vinland saga season two got an announcement. When are you masters gonna watch it? Hmm? I I don't really know anything about Finland saga. I'm afraid Well, that must be about the vikings, right? So is it um And I made it was the name I gave to America I'm neat When they found it because Christopher Columbus did not Discover America. He rediscovered America Uh, they do give reviews to people who specialize on it. That's why greg miller gave unchartered three at 10 Despite saying unchartered two better, which got a 10. Yeah, he gave unchartered three at 10 It's unreal like unchartered three is not a 10 out of 10 game. That game is flawed That game is significantly flawed Yeah, before you yeah, it's like movies. Don't be given 10 out of 10s willy-nilly That's a that is quite the accolade to have under your belt That's you want to be very careful with what you give that you don't want to devalue 10 out of 10 Right. I will not give white widow a 10 out of 10 then Oh, this is this is as he's he's got a lot of integrity. He won't give black widow a 10 out of 10 Man cannot be 9.95 Oh, shit. It's gotta yeah, there was a little CGI that looked a little so 9.9 Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. It's the bit where you CGI the woman's head on top of the man's body There's only the two or three shots that you had to see that so it's fine I think it's like one I think there was two wide shots that I remember where I was just like no I know there was one One was very stark to me. It was the one in the office there with yeah bad mckieville dude And um, there was the body was just clearly CGI and I I was very Confused as to why they had to CGI it Well because it wasn't going to match the rest of the movie otherwise It's just The thing Olga card like be a stunt man like this just What the fuck would they think it anyway, uh, I like how she's older than Like scholarship Hanson is playing a character who's meant to be much younger. Yeah It's kind of amusing. Why would she just you don't care about them being russian anyway? Like look at the rest of the cast I Is 41 in real life. Yeah, and scarlet your hands is like 36 35 36. Yeah and scarlet's about 15 to 20 years older than her in the show Yeah Yeah, because she's like a grown ass adult when she kills her as a kid or whatever. So Interesting timeline uh Yeah, about the whole giving tens by the way, I just find it amusing. I'm approved I'm approved Can't approve. That's all right. I'm approved. I threw thing hang approved. I was like the fuck Also, yeah, so about the 10 out of 10 thing It sounds like you'd suggest that giving 10 out of 10 to someone like Loki would just be an absolute no go rags I would be a little I would be disappointed If lucky, we don't know anybody who's done that Yeah, you you can't if you gave Loki a 10 out of 10 You're just disqualified from ever having your opinion considered When it comes to discussing shows, I don't know how much of a absolute brainlet Damn, you have to be to give Loki a 10 out of 10. I just it I I don't know. I just don't I don't understand. I just don't understand. I'm gonna I opened this um Open this thing on Boba Fett and He's stuck in it forever Can't help him. I kind of like killing him doesn't even get him out of it. He just respawns inside it I just saw that clip on twitter. Look at the visual effects in this show Oh the flash I think I I don't know Oh my god, look at it. No, no, no, dude those buildings Yeah, they look so like a season. Oh my god. Oh my god. Well, that makes sense, right? Backwards. Yeah It looks so bad. Oh my god. I'd be so embarrassed I yeah, I know right like system. It's Being part of this it looks so bad Why do people tell me that this show is good? Like I I don't I don't buy it I see a lot of people saying like well, no the first two seasons or whatever, but um But what about that clip that we saw from the video? Wasn't that from like earlier on? Well, I mean mad Vic at the guy we covered apparently he thinks the first two seasons are shit. So They pro I they probably are then he seems like a guy that I can trust Yeah, he wouldn't give Loki a 10 out of 10 He would yeah, he wouldn't give I can't believe this fucking CGI. I know it's wow The the scene where he's running and it's a profile shot. It looks so Dude, you know for a fact the one artist that worked on all of that when he handed it in He was like looking at the floor and they're like What he's like, yes done. You told me to get it done in two days. It's done It's that scene from batman where he goes to the Plastic surgeon is just like you you'll have to see what I have to work with I think uh, I think my favorite part about this show in this scene is like it's Vancouver I can see that you you guys don't do a good job of hiding that It's Vancouver But like do you hate Vancouver? No, I actually really like Vancouver, but like holy crap. It's so obvious I think I would like van oh, is that how it works right? You can't think that a place seems cool before you've been there No, I was actually really curious what it is that you liked about Vancouver I really like the Pacific Northwest as a region. Um, I really like that region. It has all of the cool things. I like mountains Forest pine trees um little woodland critters It's like it's a it's a it's a neat and it rains a lot too. I really like the Pacific Northwest rain a lot of Precipitation. Well, I do like rain as somebody who lives in a place that is not rainy at all I I don't want it to get hot. That's all Do you like the Atlantic southeast? Uh, no because it's tropical and I'm not as interested in tropical regions. You're a traitor to your race I don't why why would you say that? I don't know. That's something people say some people. Yeah, they do say that You're in there. Um, I like the desert I'm pretty sure this can be okay. I would hang out with the desert for a bit. You know have a beer He's probably chill With the desert. Yeah, and in chat. Yeah, I do. I would like Washington state a lot like that seems like a neat place to be I know that everybody likes to shit on Seattle, but like I'm pretty confident that that's like a good city Like that's that's the effect, you know on the same way that people shit on like um Fuck san francisco probably is like it just depends on where you live. I would imagine um Like not if well, no the problem is that like what people believe san francisco to be is not what it is It's just suburban like sprawl Which is not what people want to see All right, then Well, people are saying that it is shit. I have no idea like the problem is I don't know what it would actually be like I know it's incredibly expensive to live in these places um Perhaps even excessively expensive given what you're getting but uh I think um Something that's interesting is in america. There's like this massive disparity in terms of uh The cost like if you want to live in san francisco, like what is the average? Cost of a house like two million dollars But if you want to live in like fucking ohio you can get you can get like a mansion for a quarter of the cost Location location location Well, I guess I guess so but it's well, I guess that's the thing is in australia. It's not cheap to live anywhere. Everywhere is expensive um It doesn't even matter if you live in like If you live in one of the smallest cities, it's like new castles expensive. Fuck For a city that's only got like 300 000 people in it Um, you just don't have options in america. There's like tons of options Yeah, a lot of options here if you don't like a place just move the land of opportunity Well, yeah The opportunity to move Um, it's a sad state of affairs when the only thing marvel I've enjoyed in the last five plus years was dead pool and Colg reacting to a movie trailer Have you guys seen that? Oh, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, it's neat. I've not seen it yet It is um, I saw one of the first comments I saw about it was like jesus christ disney owns everything and I was like Yeah, pretty much. Yeah Yeah, well, yeah, it's not fox anymore. It's 20th century studios. What a great name 20th century Uh, don't worry. Yeah. Oh god. Why did they even buy IPs all of the IP well the fucking who knows what they're gonna do with the x-men man The x people. Yeah, it's only a matter of time until they get around to them I see I see plenty of people in chat talking about like how their place is nice my my Assumption would be that like most places are actually nice to live and that there are a lot of places that are underappreciated Um, like there are probably a lot of nice cities in like middle america that are like good to live in But the problem is that people want to live in the exciting places Like people want to live in la in new york Like no people don't want to live in like oklahoma city or boisea whatever it's called like people just don't want to live in these places For for seemingly no reason at all other than it's not the biggest most exciting place in the world Yeah, if I don't look out my door and see a massive Urban set of skyscrapers then it's just not worth being there. Nothing's happening then you gotta be you gotta be in the place where stuff's happening Well, it's just um, I think uh I'm becoming more and more okay with the idea of like Not living in the city. Um, like living in a smaller place. That's uh Becoming more and more. I just like the idea of a lot of space where you can get like a big dog And uh and and like a a sort of reasonably bigish Area where you can take your dog on walks and stuff Get fresh air That was cool What is with all controlling evil forces in media wrinkle in time the air tv a kang It's what's tv a and kang one of the same, right? Um, yeah, I guess Yeah, kang um, well he kind of yeah, he He created them to fix the timeline So I don't I've not convinced it was ever broken to fix So, you know like Did he have to do it personally at first where so when he started and he was like All right, this this timeline bad this timeline good this timeline bad Then he saw, you know, some guy eats a sandwich wrong. Did he go there himself to prune it himself with grenades he made or whatever? Uh, yeah, where did he get this power from this? They just Are questions No, no that was answered rags. He got his powers from Being a 31st century person. Yeah. Well rags hasn't seen it yet But yeah, his he basically gives you the exposition dump for the truth and it's basically one to one with episode one It's not that like it's not meaningfully different in terms of what the actual truth is Just we needed more episodes or a big bad. Well, we need a season two hook mainly. I'm looking forward to Apparently stitch changed his mind again that I'm still wrong about Loki But after this episode where they explicitly say they have now got free will in the world. I'm curious If he's finally gonna give up the Loki shit, I don't know Loki sucks It's really bad. Hey, it's fine. It's just a creative opinion. Okay, ring Okay Gotta be more open about this. You gotta try and see you're focusing on like the plot and stuff. You're kind of missing out on the heart The heart the emotions the feelings. That's what you need to know No, no No, no, look at look at this toxic brooder right here. Just knowing it Unacceptable That's probably half the problem is the fucking fee fees. It's all fee fees and no substance like I mean Emotions got to resonate and emotions got to be realistic for us to appreciate it Loki just suddenly going hey I want to suck your face Uh lady Loki Can I please that's not emotion that you know, it's it's There's been nothing that's that's Happened between them that's uh, you have shows that go full fucking seasons before the main protagonist goes. You know what? Let's let's fuck. Absolutely. Um I've seen people Defend it online by being like, yeah, we make sense. Loki would fall in love with himself Actually so ego driven and so narcissistic. It's like I thought that was like a meme defense. It's literally a different fucking person Okay, can we stop pretending like Loki and Sylvie a one in the same really if you think it's like no and not I find them both frustrated for different reasons Um, so yeah, you actually do have to still work to make them fall in love You can't just go Loki goes well, I know that you're an alternate version of me So I'm just automatically in love with you. And why would that be something with praising by the way? It's just terrible no matter how you slice it It's cringy as hell I just want to make sure you're okay. Who is this? Who are you? Give me back. Okay Yeah, that's probably the one of the saddest things we ever really talked about is like we don't get to have They brought it back, but we don't get to have the Loki. We actually know we have this weird dude Mm-hmm It's not even a weird dude. It's just some pathetic mopey Pry, baby Just can't stop fucking crying has got no independent driver of his it of himself. He's just waiting for Uh, somebody to point him in a direction Whether it be sylvie or the tv or whatever. It's nice. He's got no agency. It's all this character non Oh, no, don't go down the hole. I I'm sorry. I got a jetpack and I still failed I know don't tell anyone. Okay Um, so yeah, this Loki is pathetic Absolutely pathetic. Yeah Yeah, he sucks Oh, yeah, and joel can't believe I forgot joel. They were talking about great controlling evil forces in media Joel is of course one of the or if yes, joel horrifying evil people Evils, oh, that's a quite a cool bug. You were there for that right as the guy We covered you said that joel caused all death basically Yeah, yeah Good old just right. I wonder is just right still around. Is he still doing stuff? I haven't checked up all over a while I hope he's all right making videos. Let's take a look That's his newest ideas Uh, I keep returning to holo night. That's a video game. Wow. I think some video games before. I'm not sure Uh, well as I scroll through this list. I can't see one for months On a video game. Oh, maybe I'm wrong. I could have swung I can't see it here on this big old. Well, he hasn't question. Can you see anything to do with attack on titan? Um, uh, no No, he definitely didn't delete it. He must have deleted it. I That was one that I was it was so unfortunate because I just I don't watch the attack on titan But that would have been probably the perfect evap video Not that we can never find it again because again, we still will need to see the show but Um, yeah, his he's he got a very bad response to that video. And so yeah Um, but is this I think he said he wanted to make a video in that video Uh, once the show was over or I don't know if it was the end of the season or whatever I don't follow it. So I don't know But um, yeah, so there's nothing else just the holo night videos Yeah, I need to finish. I did actually properly play that game I only ever hear good things What the last two is part two No, no Holo night Oh, holo night. Okay. Yeah a little bit different from what I supposed to Last one out for two seconds and I come back and I hear somebody I mean, well, I'm not sure where you got that from because I just It's not what I said. The Joel talk. The Joel talk. Oh, yeah And you see and then when you were just like, yeah, I need to go play that fish that game What? I heard such good things about the last of us from No, not many people. Although he did give us such beauties as uh fat garrel. Yes Fat Gone but not forgotten Yeah, and that was one hell of a punch, which I He's just like a nim cut and being like, oh my god, he's gonna punch It's gonna punch them and everyone's gonna be like, oh no, this is so bad and everyone's just killing themselves Yeah, what's not the only reason Ellie survived was because that guy was an idiot You best wait Are you talking about when she got trapped by the thing? Yeah, how'd she how'd she beat them again? I I forget She told one that he was like He couldn't like Get it up or something. So he comes out. He looks like he kissed himself, right? Yeah, so he liked that and so she oh, yeah, and then yeah Yeah Oh, yeah, because this is zombie that's getting close to her as well, right? There's a zombie nearby. Yeah, there's a couple that were just sort of chilling by God that fucking game and then I think my favorite part was how Ellie said hey fat girl Tell me where they are and then she killed him after he hoped her Oh He was bitten anyway, wasn't he? Oh no, he was Yeah, and he said hey You let me live and I'll tell you and then she's like no I'll kill you she lied to fat girl. Is there any greater sin? I don't think so Yeah, he his dying breath was um, oh and she didn't even put him out of his misery nicely She shot him through the neck. So he suffocated to death. That was cruel I like how the only reason she lost the fight with What's her face was because she got stabbed by that bark It's like what the hell are the odds of this that you got stabbed? Also, you're dead Like that was so fucking lame You just walk part he's like a bust or something you walk past and it's like oh you got hit by a trap You've been stabbed and you've lost all your gear. You're like, okay, I guess I feel responsible for this Oh, I love that game Yeah, everyone did it was great. Yeah, it was so much fun My struggle by handsome guy Yeah, he should come out with that book. Maybe they'll translate it Get it around the wheel It should happen cancel when it gets translated into German. Yeah, I mean, that's the important version I'd say Yeah, you get around Surviving world war one veteran feels open to talking about how she killed all of his friends Well, Lois Lane's got that copy of the daily planet on a wall, hasn't she? Which is like I spent the night with Superman and handsome guys got Daily planet on his wall or it's just like what a woman rate, right? My story. Yeah, it's just that blunt. It's not like wonder woman question mark What's so wonderful about Sad emoji just to make sure it's uh, you know, you don't want to be too too dark, you know, put an emoji on there No Does that mean that Kang killed Epstein? Yes, it does He decided that he was interested in the the whole thing. He's like, that's it. We're having this happen Well, hold on. Are we now on it? Where are we in the Where are we in the timeline? No, because it affects all the stuff. Oh, I don't it affects everything Everything that's ever happened up to the end of time was something that Kang had organized. So Yeah, the end of time, whatever that means But the end of time was actually, um Just that meeting in his office in a Loki episode six Yes, which by the way that smoke monster. That's a guard dog. It's like wow. What a leap you just made I don't I just I don't believe anything you tell me anymore. It's amazing that she did her to be right And then you have Kang being like I organized it so that you would think that and come here It's like motherfucker. Why don't you just go and talk to them? Yeah, what Why do you need all this rig of a roll? Because he knew they wouldn't be he knew that they were filming a tv show And uh, he he needed he knew they had no plot or story All character development But they needed to waste six episodes. He threw in Richard E Grant Loki to try and you know make it more exciting If the dawn didn't sexually harass captain marvel, would he have been melted? Well, I mean, yeah Normally, yeah, yeah, but like he would have been melted had he not suffered the injuries at her hand, so Um, yeah, it's kind of a rough break. Um, that's the delayed scene, but still yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is A legendary character the best character in the MCU at this point. I'd say I'm gonna break your hand and then I'm gonna steal your body And as there were many youtubers we covered saying that that was not only like the moral thing to do But that he should go to jail and bullshit like that Wow I can't remember what Fuck Didn't um didn't legal legal basically like try to commit to the idea that he'd committed assault by touching the fucking map much Yeah, well the problem is that like you could argue that. Well, so well, he could probably depend on the jurisdiction Yeah, but if you if that went to any fucking court any jury watching the clip would be like are you insane? Like how the how would anyone think this and it's like well, you know what captain marvel? She felt like she was in danger. It's like good luck arguing that well Yeah, that's the big issue captain marvel's gonna struggle to argue that she genuinely Yeah, because that's a big part of assault is like yeah an earnest fear for your safety But captain marvel has no earnest fear for her safety. She's super strong She's the best. Yeah, she's nobody's believing that she was scared by the dawn touching her map scared by the dawn And then you got the dog The woman who hurt you and then he points He lifts his shaking hand up and slowly points a finger Yep That flat ass that flat ass and she's like this is ridiculous. He goes, uh, please Please don't hurt me anymore You've already broken one of my wrists Uh, molla you plan on doing I haven't seen that film, but I have seen you again. It's another one of those I haven't seen the film have watched your video on it. However. Well, I mean I try to cover them as honestly as possible You would have gotten all the plot points. I didn't Release all right. That's an adventure making that video. Do you remember that molla? I was describing every single event to you that was yeah Well after seeing black widow And hearing people say well, it was better than captain marvel And I don't I would never see black widow again in my life I don't know that it is better than captain marvel. I don't know about that either I think we'll probably talk about that on saturday because that's a that's a subject That is quite the subject I think it's one of those things where it's just like of course it can't be as bad as captain marvel, right? It's like Like the plot armor in that film is fucking nuts Moeller, do you plan on doing a breakdown of saxon out as justice league like tlj and tfa? I would rather kill myself than going through fucking all of that film slowly. That's not You got my take on it. Okay It's all that it's dead. Okay Yeah Yeah, I wouldn't have I wouldn't enjoy that making that I don't think Um hitler wanted a better future for germany hashtag grape party logic Okay, come back from vacation to find I was hacked shit waiting for me now to confuse my friends with this tizmy alien also high-rack Fucking it was just drawing an alien. I love the It's like mod simpson alien It's a really good meme Really good meme You recently did a super chat catch up, but you talked about your annoyance with race slash sexual obsessed activism I really appreciate that you guys opposed that crap, but your content doesn't focus on complaining about it um Yeah, we're uh, so the way that we try and identify it is when we think it's to blame for bad writing as in like a particular event happens that's Uh in congruent with whatever else and we could be like was this incompetence Was this mandated was this their attempts? They did it because they wanted blah blah blah for example like When you get confirmation like why wasn't dr. Strange at the end of Wandavision when we were like where the fuck is he this whole time? Like you should have been here by now and you find out it's because he's he's a white man that we need him to Not put him up. It's like okay so Yeah Like what are we supposed to do with this? It's like so that's bad The very bad practice you shouldn't be doing it. Um Also this little thing called racist, but I guess we We don't Yeah, you hit both But those are the people who believe that you can't be racist towards white people So, uh, you're not gonna get anywhere with that Well, they can they can have their definition. We'll keep our well It feels like again the political zeitgeist is now moving to like class and stuff So race is becoming less relevant and then it will become more relevant again It's relevant and so on so forth. Well, I think it's fucking marveler 10 years behind anything probably more than that That's true marvel. Well, I think that's the thing because marvel's still kind of in that like girl boss era when like people Don't care about that women. It's all about class women can be in films too. It's like Yes, they can, you know, I'm so fucking proud of you marvel Give them a hundred years and they might have a gay Oh, no gosh, no terrified that woman's got that covered That was like pick any character. They're probably gay Uh, well that pretty much is batwoman. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird though. His batwoman has has uh Gay characters which are actively gay And none of the Supposed heterosexual characters are actively heterosexual Well, if you remember we had in season one, we had the two heterosexual relationships with sophie and um, and jacob those two had there But but one of them Nobody remembers that That was due to a lot of booze In in season two god bless her. Oh, yeah Because she said it was like a compensation husband or some bullshit, right? And the the show didn't care about him whatsoever. It doesn't matter that he loved her. Fuck that No, god, you did so Terrible, it's so wrong. I'd even actually forgotten that she was with him in season one. Yeah, most people do I think joking and live and joking I'm there. Yeah, she was married She was married Not anymore Yeah, and what happens that she was actually gay and uh, jacob's wife died um was was murdered by his daughter Oh god, I remember that plot. That's what led into the stupid flower shit. Oh, yeah, I totally forgot about that Oh my god, there's some just move this show. It just moves so fast That's what I mean is it would be quite a journey to go and rewash like the batwoman coverage, you know It'd just be like oh my god. Remember this remember when everything was like this Oh god, I'm never watching those Not in pain of death man Well, yeah, because I don't think I'd want to right now because I'm not having as much fun anymore with this show Oh, um The next one is what do you guys think of the tomorrow? Oh, it's really it's honestly one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Yeah It's one of the most nonsensical movies ever. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's Silly I enjoyed parts of it But honestly whenever there wasn't like aliens attacking things things blowing up time travel happening I was like come on like I'm not going to take you seriously at this point as a story like Yeah, they tried to spend a lot of time getting they try to they spent a lot of time trying Do like this is gonna make sense if you pay attention to this exposition. It's like no, stop it It's if it wasn't chris pratt's fault. He was fine Mr. Simmons was fine You know in Yvonne Strahowski or whatever her name is she was fine. Strahowski was And Yeah, it was it made no sense and then they said hey This film makes no sense. Let's go here instead Yeah Yeah, it's just kind of crazy They had like revelations as if oh my god, we've just come up with a 4000 IQ idea And it's like the first thing that you would think Yeah, absolutely. And this is the thing in terms of premise when you say to somebody We're gonna have we're gonna pull people from the past to fight in the future You you immediately like so by telling me that that is a possibility I'm already coming up with better solutions now because I know what you're capable of you can't have that premise Like I don't know how to contrive that premise because it means that you can you can time travel But why wouldn't you say to the per you know why when they came back when you're Chutting to them. Why don't you say okay? So when did the aliens land on earth? Uh, we never saw them land Oh, okay. So where did the outbreak begin from the end? Well, you know, you can probably extrapolate Okay, it happened in in Serbia Siberia, it's Siberia. Sorry. Yeah, it's completely Why are we here in Middle Middle fucking Europe Middle East? Oh, it's good. This is ridiculous In Eastern Europe. Um, yeah, they go to Siberia and then I'm like, oh look It's here right now the space ship. Oh, it was here all along Man, the spaceship was inside of you all along. That's why you never saw it crash because it it was here We can just end this right now without sending millions of people to the future to die Well, also, we're not going to tell you what the enemies look like and we're not going to give you gear that can kill them What the fuck was it? No, it's all just going to be terrible But was it logic for that? They said like if you knew what they were you wouldn't go or something But you've been conscripted. So I can't remember what the fucking reasoning for that was Yeah, you didn't sign up. You were conscripted. There's you're you'd be too afraid. You'd be too scared to fight them It's like, yeah, they're spooky, but I'd rather be afraid now You get over it A chef who would be frightened to fight a fucking another human being respire Yeah, you're gonna be scared to to fight another person An alien surely will be less scared once they teach you how to kill them Yeah, they look scary, but actually they've got some really big weak points on them here here Yeah, here what we might actually do is give you some practice targets to shoot at that are mildly similar and aesthetic to uh the To the things that you fight so that they won't just you know, it's completely shocking and scary and surprise you The um, I mean the other ones they all have when they go to the future too. They're not kitted out They're just random like some people have more armor than others. Some people like have different weapon It's just like here. Take this bulletproof vest to fight these aliens. I'm like, but do they shoot bullets? No You'll be dead Eddie. Well, they shoot those Sub-proof vests would be better. I guess a bulletproof vest would work, but those things would go into like Well, if you remember the people who were hit by them got like Impaled into concrete walls and shit like it. I don't know Yeah, I don't know Um, well, it wouldn't matter because they weren't fucking told about that shit. Anyway, they're just like There was only 500,000 humans left anyway So even if you went high we've decided to just you know move on now We've had enough. Well remember the future people can go back to the past So I know it'll be awkward for some people in terms of oh my god There's my childhood self, but maybe send all of the living humans back with all the knowledge and tech You couldn't you couldn't uh go back when you exist you would cause a paradox. That's But they've got so many paradoxes already explanation Is is the same as the movies. They just they would cause a paradox and that's that you Like it's so not it's just not fair It's it's like you know the the amount of paradoxes they've caused throughout the fucking storyline already And then they just randomly pull that card on you like we can't do that thing Oh, okay, where did they invent time travel? Well the second that they come back to tell everybody about the aliens They will no longer be coming back to tell them about the aliens in terms of the same exact way everything will change So they cause a paradox instantly If they want to go with that route in terms of coexisting the timeline in the future on the past Which they argue is exactly what is happening. It's like they're both just running but you Fucking movie I just said that they should all just go to the past and just live there Well, you see rags that would be a paradox Oh Right that would be a paradox because that's what that means The fact that they all teleported in like a hundred feet above More than a hundred feet above the ground that was the machine now functioning. That was so lucky that Chris Pratt survived Well into the pool when he still should have died He was the dad of scientist lady as well I love how they screwed up so badly that they lost like 90 percent of their forces in a minute Even matter the fucking aliens tear through them instantly the only thing that gave them a chance was the Uh like air attack and shit Well, then Be more effective though. Sometimes the bullets do shit all and sometimes they would randomly just like shoot off their heads Yeah, and then other times the heads would just be sparking or whatever and it sucks not doing anything Maybe you're losing because you're just the most idiotic people who have ever lived Maybe maybe the aliens should win I always feel as well. Maybe maybe this is an incorrect assumption But when there's an organic enemy that literally can die by being shot, I feel like america's gonna fucking destroy them It's like they'll not only this is like the thing we dream about happening Kind of yeah, and you'd think that when when america is set to finding the best weapons to kill these things It's like oh, they're gonna come up with all kinds of things that will just dominate these creatures Like no you lost like oh Tanks air support they had everything and these are just Creatures that are running along the ground and yeah, sure they can Yeah, they can pack a punch But you can just shoot them and that should sort that out Yeah, look how scared they were of the fucking napalm When they fucking just drop the napalm and they To clear the streets out. Yeah, we've got a big infestation here. Okay. We're just gonna drop a ton of napalm on that I'll fuck him up Okay, why why haven't you been doing that for the last 30 years you fucking asshole And I guess they're infinitely spawning. What was the logic for how many there were? Queen Queen was like laying them out in the ship or something to them Queen to Well checkmate the amount of men they lost trying to capture that Queen too As the part where they're like let's tell someone it's like no. I can't trust politicians You Whenever you go hiking you should always tell someone that you've gone just in case you're you don't come back or you hurt yourself People know to look for you. I shouldn't because the politicians unless they're a politician rags. Don't tell them Definitely don't care about their own interests. I forgot literally this this alien foot I don't even know the logic that could possibly be it's like oh, they might Not destroy the alien threat from and it's like what we'll have like an alien thing on our hands Would they try and collect the specimens or whatever and just like isn't that better than you guys fumbling around and releasing them Plus the the aliens are already collected as specimens As it is like the state of the world has not changed except now we're all aware of it Why did they plant explosives as a backup plan instead of just running with that first? Why when they found the spaceship didn't they just say hey Now that we've got the spaceship and we're seeing the entrance and this is the only way in And we've really got these things locked down now for the next 20 or 30 years Why don't we get the authorities to fuck them up? You know Can't trust politicians got me You got me how it works You got you got me got me good Uh, loki would not be considered good if it didn't have marvel characters in it changed my mind Uh by the general public I guess they're saying I think yeah if this was an original IP with characters people had no one heard of I think people were saying this is a pathetic doctor who rip off with no heart or soul Uh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Maybe i'm not 100 sure because I think people can really be tricked by the fucking budget like it's just Look at it. Look at that shit and Owen wilson if you replaced loki with some other charismatic lead I feel like there'd be plenty of people who are like I love this people like bat woman There's a fucking subreddit of people saying bat woman is good That's fascinating Prisma in this show Well, if you did though If you did have Like if you if you take out the fact they model characters and you put in some random actors But they're also like just enough to make the average person go. I like this guy And uh, yeah, maybe I'll I think it really I think in this day and age. I think it really depends on who the fucking main character is Oh, I mean, I would say that we can we can clearly see that a charismatic actor Seemingly can absolutely carry a horrifically bad script. Definitely First prop Even though we should be saying what he's saying is really dumb, but how he says it is great I believe this man when he says yeah, when he says this would create a paradox. I believe him somehow Doesn't need to be proven He said it He's got a good hair and a nice smile. So I believe Yeah, don't ask me how But I just I have a feeling like like Finn did in uh rise to Skywalker. Remember he had a feeling Yeah, he did. He does have a feeling. Yeah was it Could have been not gonna not gonna say it was impossible to be that Uh He should report rose tco for sexual harassment. Well, you'll get around to it at some point. Hopefully It's gonna be 20 10 years down the line. He's eventually gonna cancel it when she gets to like a really high up position You know what? for you Because uh, I speak to gary about this thing yesterday, maybe Who possibly is gonna give a fuck about episode 10 Um, they'll have to start from scratch again So if the trailer like they're gonna have to bait again, it's gonna be like this is gonna be about luke skywalkers other sun You didn't know him Like what It's gonna be Yeah, and you'll see you'll see star destroyers. You'll see some guy in a cloak You know with a red lightsaber like it'll have to be that again because there's no way they're selling another trilogy on the They're not even returning right like oscar isaac's done with star wars They seem like they're done After the whole racist thing like that's not happening That was a huge mistake on that part, but hey It's easy riddly we were saying Yeah, she there's a good chance she would I could see that. Um But there's no fucking way. Well, it's a shit ton of money and I don't know it'll depend on where she is in They probably made sure to keep her happy So yeah, because to clarify maybe that sounded really harsh. So oscar isaac does movies all the time He's in all kinds of everything. He wanted to do star wars because he really liked it passionately Yeah, he he was really passionate about star wars. He wanted to be involved and after all that he's like, yeah I'm okay. Actually, you know what this wasn't yeah. Okay. Anyway. Bye obviously John Boyega's I'm not even sure in tight like I think he would consider it insulting to go back to star wars at this point like After everything that's happened. So But daisy Unless she manages to get More and more roles where she doesn't need star wars in any way she performed I could see her being like, yeah, I'll come back as rey to do whatever Um oscar isaac will never struggle to get scripts. I guess what I'm saying. I think daisy really Yeah, he's really good Well, he's just getting lots of stuff like he's a moon night now. So he's he's set for a little while with marvel Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah Didn't isaac say I'll probably come back if I need to buy a house Yeah, yeah need another house. I'll come back or something. Yeah, man the shade Absolutely. That's great. That's a great fucking line That's a great line. That's the thing. Um Anymore they're not going to be able to sell an episode 10 on do you want to see what happened to the sequel trilogy characters in their later years? It's like no, I don't give a fuck So they'll have to be a brand brand new story But they can't do a brand new story because they don't have the confidence to do that So I still have to be banking on stuff that we like so it'll be jedi robes Brand it'll be like the old republic possibly Yeah If it's an element for that eventually if it's an episode 10 as in it has to take place after episode nine then I would just assume Fuck our question should have been is it the flood or the necromorphs or disney? I wouldn't be surprised if I can brought the emperor back to be honest with you. I think he wasn't right. Why the fuck dot You got to vaporize him three times Third time's a charm So, yeah, um people might be invested in seeing an episode 10 if they get fucking tricked again um But we'll see maybe disney will decide that an episode 10 is just not worth the gamble and that they'll go with it Like safer choices, whatever they may be. I don't even know Side story and off-shoot movies until like five six ten years have passed and then they'll officially have episode You might they might not even do episode 10. It'll just be star wars episode. They might just say fuck it star wars episode one Episode point five The new republic well, so that's the other concern would they remake them? agree they could Remake No, no not a remake you're just gonna say it's called episode one now and we're doing our own thing Okay, so one less ability. I think that they could remake it as well and it would be horrifying Good well it'd be that south park episode where it's saving private ryan with walkie talkies with guns Just terrible ideas Because Yeah, I feel like it's already it's just everyone knows now that we're all keeping eyes on disney's Newestite whatever with any of these ip's not because we're interested in their stories But we're like what are you gonna do now? What what else are you gonna destroy? Well, yeah, because it seems like right now it's tv shows is their focus for star wars But they'll get back to movies eventually. I mean rogue squadron. That's coming out patty chickens That's the thing she gets more stuff. She did wonder woman and she gets more shit Yeah, I mean rags. She's got her next three films aligned up three Yeah, and we could do this with all the tv show right people. Yeah, they all fail upwards Because which is bizarre to me because 84 it had like the worst response out of all these films The problem is probably that a lot of this stuff was planned before that happened True, but like if you remember what happened with dnd's star wars trilogy that crashed and burned after I Pretty sure it's gotta be at least tied in some way to game of thrones the response to that Maybe yeah Of course, it could be something completely different and I'm talking about my ass, but I imagine that that was I think there's a pretty hefty correlation problem Because from what I could tell right that could be another explanation for why they wanted to ditch game of thrones It's like you guys can have a star wars trilogy like oh, fuck. Yeah Fuck this medieval shit. We're out And then they pissed everyone off so much Oh Yeah, that's a regrettable, but Yeah Um wednesday efap you spoil me rags go on sit show Yeah, whenever uh, they want to have me I will be on I think moller and I will be on sometime whenever they find something or Whenever they want Yeah, absolutely Uh Julia for movie had hard everyone involved would work hard to make it the best it could be which would include making sure the story You've written doesn't imply horrible things about characters by accident That's the thing of the people who work in movies don't have any control over the script Yeah, and I don't think we try to avoid ever This only ever applies to writers because if someone said like wow you guys are shitting all over one to one 24 do you know hard the fucking I don't know The lighting guy worked on these sets. I'd be like. Yeah, that's I'm sure the grips works very hard Well, they let down well, here's the thing those guys probably have to like earn their paychecks Yeah, they have to do a good job. They if they fuck up they're gonna lose their job the script writer They've got the three more movies coming and no one gives a shit about writing anyway So I don't even know how you could have a bad script. In fact, fuck it bad scripts don't even exist Well, when you say that I that would be a genuine question for people like high tops like how do you tell? What is a well done script and what isn't and because if you want to define it this way then How do you ever get a bad script and in which case? What's the profession? What what do you learn? Why do you listen to what anybody has to say about this craft? You know, there's already gotta figure it out. You exist. It has to have heart which circles back to this See which and what um A advocate was saying right? It's like this sounds like the film that finally would qualify as bad from high top from His rules like we watched her rape a guy Surely that's ruining the heart of the film surely He's like no because that's not what the intention of the creator was it's like dude Where have you been? Yeah, I don't know. Um, I think most would agree that's like high top doesn't Go by any particular standard. It's more. So just uh, did he like it and he really liked Wonder Woman 84 I Yeah, why is a great question You'd watch that a lot I think we weren't the only people who made the response to that video neither Maverick there was a couple people like this was This was an interesting choice He should change his name to white top nice Well in thumbnail for um maverick's video. He called him low bar films. I think Yeah I like that low bar films. I like it. You got play Hi rags Hello I asked you about pooping lost e-fap and I add this if you have a big bathroom with a toilet separated from the rest via door Would that door need to be closed or is it in the bathroom door enough? Or is it being in the bathroom as long as the bathroom is closed? You're good Yeah, I guess what we're asking you there is like a cubicle, right? It's kind of like what they're saying Yeah, if bathrooms are almost always Really like Like they're their own thing You know when the bathroom ends and when the rest of the room begins In fact, it might be like a code sort of thing for Uh, that there's either if you don't have a door and these will almost exclusively be at like rest stops and maybe recreation areas or visitor centers things of that nature where it's just There it got like it goes around a corner or something like that um Yeah, that's one thing but when it comes to homes then um They will have there's clearly going to be a door almost all the time and as long as the bathroom's already at bathroom area is closed You all good. You're set Close that door. Don't leave it open. Absolutely That door is the pathway for all that bathroom stank and nonsense to get into the rest of your house And you don't want that You don't want that Could y'all do it? I want to invite it back in Could y'all do a like 10 minute per video series That recaps y'all's opinions on a given movie such as the worst parts that make it bad hashtag a long man good um So like the I guess the idea there was like we just Do a 10 minute discussion per movie we ever see and then release that as a separate things people can go back to or whatever Not impossible, but I doubt we would uh have that running alongside everything else Um, but don't worry we we often reference all kinds of movies all the time and you'll get a quick impression of Whether or not it's despised or loved Um, are you the last e-fap? I wanted to thank y'all for the time and effort y'all put in to make free content for us Thank you all for all that you do Oh, that's nice. Oh, thank you Yeah, we um was use a bonus 10 hour e-fap. I guess this week too Um, there's so much shit. We got to talk about No That low key and black widow they're not gonna shit on themselves well I guess you could kind of describe what they are is that Like sorry, okay Um I Season five episode three the last family was real because they were not on self-contained adventures and the other didn't jump You know, I have I think this is about rick and morty I think so the last family was real because they were not on self-contained adventures and the others didn't jump Unverse im diat as a real rick would have I don't want to let's do that Is that supposed to be immediately? No, I absolutely not sure so much should make a rap song about that Hey Because I want to Um Also, thank you guys for everything you do. You all brought me so much joy in the past two years. Give her the hard work You're beautiful massives. Well, well, we absolutely well keep going As long as they keep making stuff. We'll be here Oh my somebody is uh donated a with a hot dog Oh, I I didn't know I was a donation What I'm sure it was spent specifically for us. So enjoy that There you go, sir. I hope you haven't waited too long for that Well, at least now we know why dr. Strange saw Well, hopefully they're aware when they sent that in the first 30 minutes, they were like, well I'll come back in 10 hours At least now we know why dr. Strange saw only one stupid way to win the only one The one that called the shots benny from total recall was insane. Yeah, how do you reconcile any of that shit? Like Because and the thing is dr. Strange is gonna have to direct directly address this in his movies. So God, I worry for him because I like him. Yeah Oh, he's fucked. He's absolutely fucked He's gonna get dragged around the multiverse by some fucking lemon There are many characters. I feel this way about right but like dr. Strange His characteristic is like hyper intelligence. So you can't be making him do stupid shit. All right Oh, what you mean like, um Starks and banners and then a 19 year old girl and Why didn't you think about reversing the polarity? I when I complained about that, um, I can't remember. I think it was could have been my infinitiable video I'm not even sure I remember anymore. I remember people being like, oh, so the one the black person is an intelligent It's a problem Just like when a 19 year old girl It's just amazing to you don't even want to bother try to understand whatsoever like what the point is You it's literally like, um the intelligence equivalent of like you don't want a power creep You want intelligent people to be intelligent and stupid people to be stupid and Everyone to be where they are. You don't want constant new characters to be like, I'm the smartest one now I'm smarter than your smartest one. You're like, oh Okay, that's what they're doing because that's what they're doing with the power creep power creeps off the chart now Yeah, um, and it's it's a really shitty way of trying to get you your viewers like, oh, shit Captain marvel's stronger than iron man cap thorn hulk put together nice Yeah, that'll do it It's like, oh sherry. She's more intelligent than fucking tony stark and bruce banner put together Out by her bigger So that's the thing. Um, if dr. Strange is like outsmarted by many different characters No, please no Hey, if it can happen to Loki, I mean everyone's on the table That's the thing. Loki's supposed to be a smart dude as well. You're right Very smart super clever. It's probably bad that I almost didn't associate him with intelligence anymore. Thanks to this fucking show Yeah, anymore. He's not My association was crying now Yeah, he's a very he's a sentimental You know We just wanted to see the emotion side There's a fucking quote from ragnarok that I love When um, he betrays Thor one of the last times he does near the end And um, Thor realizes he turns around you sees him and he goes never one for sentiment were you and then Loki goes better to watch it burn Yeah It's that's Loki and you fucking I don't know what he is in this fucking show Self awareness at least at the very least And it's cool as well because that was a callback To he stabbed Thor and said sentiment in response to him saying we could work together to save new york Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah But Yeah, no He's now one of the most sentimental people of the fucking MCU That's quick. I went so he falls in love with the first moment he meets Yeah, and and and he loves Owen wilson man. He's he's got a bromance going there Is that we how about instead of a colleague how about a friend? How about a friend? Perhaps we could kiss later The there's already an article that says they were queer coded guarantee it Okay, probably That's so normal. That was like, why is that even content to talk like oh, they they're queer coded Okay Loki has always been marvel's most queer character why Loki's sexuality is crucial to understanding his character crucial If someone ever says understanding rags sexuality is crucial to understanding him as a person I just want to slap that person and say fuck off. You don't know me Yeah, well what an indictment against me as a person That's that's all you're based around. That's it. That's your only defining character Who do you fuck rags? How am I supposed to know anything about you otherwise? Yeah You know apart from getting to know you Now It's boring loves fears boring The book named griped by wonder the handsome man story Grapes by wonder Great me wonder great great Free fab 138 super chat won't send on my side sending now the mutant baby fetus monster Whatever thing would have been far more terrifying had it mirrored a scene in the opening where Rose chases Ethan around the house in a peekaboo esque style game Where she's giggling as a baby would and Ethan is being playful It would have been messed with Ethan's head into thinking the monster was potentially rose An overall would have been better addition to the so I almost want to stop you because I'm just like Resident Evil 8 needs immense work to just Fix everything story wise like not that I don't appreciate this idea And I'm pretty sure that's what they were going for right the Ethan would think the spooky baby monster was like Tied to his daughter in some way um It would have been a better addition than a random scary chase scene also would have given Ethan more connection to his daughter Other than she's my child again. I'm pretty sure that's what they were trying to do um Because it's supposed to be like Mia's body on the table, right? Yeah, and that she's had like a You listen to her like there's like audio files of on the radio or whatever Who like implying that she's trying to get rid of the baby or something and I think that's what leads up to the sequence Yeah, um writing wise and resting late squealing in a corridor Yeah, um, and I think it's you know Who works is like a horse a horse sequence, but uh Yeah, if you wanted to make it tie into the storyline better than There's a lot of stuff we'd have to do I'd like to thanks to think skull scorches comments on catch-up streams was just a big brain move to encourage spite super chats like this one um He's the one who was like, yeah the the one who's not a fan of super chat catch-up. Um Do you know, uh, yeah as we we actually got um A comment on one of our catch-ups saying um, can you stop responding to every sick or phantic message you receive? He's just kind of like Doesn't seem very fair, but yeah though, so I gotta give them the do because they said the thing Well, uh, I got quite upset And uh, one of them said I need to stop doing these streams and start doing what made me famous Well, I mean that's That's more bees with honey Very frustrated individuals. I just gotta accept that they have an opinion and you know what we read it out and we responded And that's all we can do They Love you in a specific way and that's lovely Um, I want to join in on one of these episodes one day I'm assuming they mean in the stream or something and uh No, who knows the future is unclear now. Thanks to kang having been Beating the fuck out. Yeah, you have free will though to make that decision Or maybe kang had maybe he decreed that you would and now that there's Free will maybe now that won't happen. So who knows maybe maybe uh, dr. Loki, whatever his name is, maybe he Maybe he doomed you Damn dr. Locke dr. Loki doom Oh Maybe Loki and Mobius will have a kid and it's dr. Doom Oh G because I've always felt doctor victor von doom is very queer coded. I don't know if you guys Have noticed that? Yeah, I think so. Yeah He kind of looks like somebody that's just walked out of love 56 Dr. Dookie Dr. Dookie. They do a lovely manhattan in there And we're off to run in fear when they get dr. Doom in But all for the wrong reasons But I've already seen articles explaining why the fantastic four won't be Um as they are in the comics I think it's safe to assume nothing is going to be as it is in the comics anymore like more so than ever it's just There's not much point in even knowing what the comics are now because it's because it's almost makes it worse for you because You will know what the name of the thing is And then you will see what they did instead of being. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know Instead of knowing nothing about it, you'll now know Why they because obviously taskmaster is just the next in a line of Things that happen Um, electrocute or grape either way she gives them the shocker. Oh My goodness Uh, you gotta love sienna princess sienna earth emissary. Oh, yeah Where did you learn to grape on a farm? I mean, you just made me spit my drink out all over the place good at places. I need to learn About Why do they keep becoming an ewok to get up there stop it be lando Oh, shit. I'm missing the stars I've done my bit on my video game. I just completed another I just completed another part of my relic quest chain in front of function 14. So I now have Uh, a slightly stronger weapon with a new sparkly effect on it in there gorgeous If you're so what the next quest gonna be so I just like Fuck If you're serious about doing a character versus battle discussion and get set the programmer on having someone who takes it seriously would be hilarious Oh, we probably wouldn't you know probably go too serious, you know Like it's I could envision the problem being that we're stuck forever between something like mario luigi Fucking wins gotta get the answer Luigi can jump higher Mario seems a bit more really, you know And you have to account for luigi seems sinister sometimes like you'd be much more willing to Get stuck in luigi Have you seen the faces he makes and like mario kart and stuff? They do There's these little like Mebs where they'll have like a camera angle of he's thrown like a shell and someone's car is flipping out of control It'll just show it with a background glaring at them Oh, yeah, yeah, I have it's like the death stare at them, isn't it? Yeah You don't want to fuck with luigi on the track. No, he will fuck a bitch up He will fuck that guy has got fucking hookers in in garbage fossil units Absolutely Why have I got a flash in light right now and I've collected all the things go away Um Oh, this one just says as stop. I'm afraid you ended up with another like Six hours of as so you're gonna have to deal with it. You know I didn't I didn't stop. Sorry Hashtag imperial germany did nothing wrong I ain't confirming nothing like that. Who who would know here? Uh Hey molly if you can emulate it try out ultimate spider-man on gamecube is a lot like spider-man 2's gameplay with great swinging mechanics in an open world sandbox I had no luck with both the spider-man games on gamecube. They were emulating like poo poo um Like super glitchy and uh and really bad fps. It's really weird with dolphin is such a like mixed bag sometimes they run Perfectly like better than the original Sometimes they run like poo I used to love playing batman and robin on the ps1 it was it was glitchy as fuck, but You just go like cut brown goth. I'm seeing any batmobile Going to stop in crimes and shit. It almost was snagger voice it Uh, I I think they took sound clips from the movie. Well, that's good enough Uh, imagine watching all quiet on the western front and then watching wonder woman Well Yeah, okay. I haven't seen the movie but read the book. Oh, dude. It's so cool, man brutal All Gallipoli go watch Gallipoli and then that Steve rogers are different because he had an established morality before his superpowers he tried to let He tried to let's he tried to join the us army five times Yeah, I would say he's meaningfully different in that he's like trying to sign up for the war He's trying to say in list Oh, that's probably yeah um Yeah, he didn't he didn't qualify because of um It wasn't just the body size. Whatever. Would you also have like your trouble breathing? And and flat feet and all this kind of stuff. Yeah like Quite a few things. I think wrong with him and then earth's kind sorted him out And then Autumn zola sorted out bucky and then Some random scientists sorted out isaia And then someone in russia sorted out Alexi And then another random doctor sorted out freckle jesus so Yeah, it's gonna keep on coming. Give me more of them super soldiers Anna posse is all the posse Yeah, all of them and then zemo the chad smashing them all on the floor Oh boy good boy Please kill more super soldiers It's just a series of I I mean, I love I love the end of civil war with with zemo and black panther that exchange is so good Yeah, man. Yeah, damn that was kind of some good shit Living and not done with you Hmm See that line was awesome and then it was haunting because of phase four, but then you know it worked out We're okay. We're alive As long as we don't see zemo again now until everyone at marvel's been fired And then they hire um I don't know Literally random people would we would get way better stuff just random people off the street and we will get way better content Well, I think we uh, uh You know I I I can say With no modesty. I'm pretty sure we wrote a better Oh, yeah, we'll come up with a film last night. Didn't we you then then the black widow film We made a pretty damn good black widow film. I thought yeah We'll probably um mess around with some of that on saturday But we would we would just like just come up with random ideas for what you could have made the fucking film About and the obvious choice that everyone knows especially with the de-aging technology Just make and you wouldn't even need to really Really do it that hard, but the the story for hawkeye and black widow. That's just that's the one I ever wanted to see Instead you did what you did Yes, they did Um Steve rogers. Oh wait, uh, I feel bad for most of soldiers on all sides of world one shame Also for the bionicle efap movies. That's such a fucking You just move from that subject over to bionicle uh How many lord the rigs or bionicle good? Yes Um, how many lord the rings references do you think you'd have in a bionicle efap movies? I do not know I I I'm so I don't know if I have a sore bionicle movie myself Um, yeah, you know people do get excited at the prospect of an efap bionicle arc So maybe one day I haven't what I still haven't managed to watch the um Yeah, the meme yet the lord the rings meme that I could do the coding for Oh, yeah One of goga's ones, I'm assuming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That's why it's the meme Oh, yeah You can play as both spider-man and then and with different abilities stories good and the challenges and time trials make it quite visceral I am that's about the spider-man game cube game. I think and Yeah, I remember enjoying because a lot of people would just Categorically say spider-man 2 video game was better than one on game cube But I remember liking one like it wasn't so much better than it meant the first one was shit or anything Um, I liked playing as the green goblin throughout the whole campaign because he was op as fuck You um, there's goga. I just remember you could play as green goblin fighting vulture And as spider-man vulture was like kind of Like harder to take out but as green goblin you just fire all your missiles and you dies Ow It's just it's just the way the world works, you know It's not very quick here. Um as isn't losing this debate the same way fringy didn't lose the emu war Well, fringy, I don't I don't get the reference. Well Fringy, did you do you feel you lost the emu war? Well, I mean, I didn't lose the war. I guess we lost as a nation, but I didn't lose it Yeah, I don't know. I've no reason to feel bad about it Um, also, I saw black widow and it was bad, but it had some great ass shots. Hi rags Yeah, it was surprisingly a lot of them actually I was like, oh wow, okay So right Ranks will be you can't you can't give uh scar a swan song without having a good look at that rumpy dumpy Yeah, but then they'll they'll say that they totally didn't do that It was just it was it wasn't they needed the shot They needed it you have to know where ass is to know if she's in danger or not, you know So it wasn't that ass was for all the lesbicans out there not the male games All the decepticons out More and friends Whoever's still here say you were I'm here So you were offered to forget having watched a movie played a game, etc Which would you choose and why example forget it because it was bad Or get the chance to experience it for the first time again Oh Lord rings is the trilogy for lord rings. I'll be a big one actually. Yeah The one thing I would regret if I wipe my memory of lord rings is my understanding of it I like all of the experience I've had with it over the years if you know what I mean Yeah, if I could once I rewatch the film I get to reclaim that You know, that would be a big deal. But yeah, I wouldn't want to get rid of my knowledge But just for the sake of being able to experience that film fresh Um, I would it would be that for me That would be the film that I feel like I'd get the most out of and I feel like that's the category I'd go with as well the the other category of forgetting something because you thought it was so bad I don't think I would ever need that and in some way it's good that I've seen it So I know to avoid it whatever that thing is Yeah films don't scar me like that At least I haven't seen one yet. Not yet Um, Dark Souls is no one for me. At this rate it'll be any day now, but until then we'll see Uh Dark Souls is the gaming one for me. I I do often wish I could replay that game for the first time fresh again because I had shit tons of fun my first time around figuring everything out Probably Buffy and Angel I wouldn't mind seeing them for the first time again with my own recommendation on it so that I'd be like Yeah, okay, I'll check it out But that'll be the same with Lord of the Rings where I'd be like I want my Years of having talked about it back afterwards What about you guys? That's so hard. It's a real hard question I probably Never want to see the matrix sequels and just leave the matrix as a standalone film It makes sense. I definitely want to wipe my memory of the last Jedi And I never want to hear about it ever in my life What if you wiped that but you couldn't wipe rise of skywalker and tfa so well, I haven't I haven't seen rise of skywalker So I I I'm okay. We're keeping tfa because I didn't I didn't Find it like horrendously offensive or anything. It just kind of rehashed a new hope um, so I could sort of pretend that They actually decided to go somewhere with these plot threads in it and end up brilliantly, but I'll never know but never mind That's okay. That's cool Um, whoo, I want to pick a film that I really like so I can experience it again Oh man, it's so hard. I I do know I'm actually going to say the matrix again because I um, I was one of these very fortunate people To see the matrix without having a clue what the premise was um, so uh, I just went there with no uh, I hadn't seen a a You know trailer for it. I hadn't seen a synopsis for it Um, and so I just I just got told hey, you know, have you seen the matrix? I said no and it's like, oh you got to come to the cinema And I and see and it's like what's it about and they just went no No, no, no. I'm not going to tell you so I went to the cinema and I just thought it's about you know, this dude who's uh Just kind of like on the run from the feds or whatever because he's a bit of a hacker a little bit where he has thought Ah, okay They're doing a little bit of a better Johnny mnemonic sort of thing here and then you know boom Yeah, it goes. Uh, it just goes and you're just like holy shit And then it's uh, yeah, it's it's just awesome from there on in and uh, the matrix is one of those movies like everybody likes it as far as I know I don't think I've met anyone who doesn't like I'm sure somebody in the chat garden There's always going to be someone who didn't but it's just like it's just one of those movies where most people side is like Yeah, I like the matrix Just haven't yeah, I haven't met anyone that said that they haven't um But it was great. It was like such a good feeling to not Have uh, you know the plot ruined or whatever or these did the twist. I should really you know Ruined or whatever and so you just experienced it. Um, completely fresh. That was a nice A nice feeling it made me feel good Doug walker didn't like the matrix Really at first Apparently someone said that and try I don't know he didn't like that housing either. He's He's a demon person. Okay, you drain the only reason he wouldn't like that Um, what about you fringy? um I think it was a game I'd like to experience super mario galaxy for the first time again But uh, it seems like it'd be a lot of fun um film saving private ryan probably um It is tough because there are a lot of potential options like I probably really enjoy star wars if I could rewatch it again Yeah, that's true Or like writers of the lost ark or something. Oh, yeah, man That'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah Game it might be odd as it is it might be like fallout 3 Maybe fall out new vegas. No, I couldn't see. Oh, definitely see that Definitely discovering all of that again. Every place is a new place again Um, just going through you don't know what so you don't know what to plan for really you don't know Uh, you know the best stuff necessarily you don't have all the strategies memorized. So you're just going in fresh playing again If I was to say game, I'd say witcher 3 Yeah, it's a good one Oh, I guess One of the first ones because of I've said out doxels probably would be soba. I would like my mind Uh wiped of that Do it again ye This job of much thing is great It's just so much this looks like so much fun Wait, what looks like fun This the jammer badge. Oh, yeah, it's fucking legendary lego level, you know, I feel like I'm in the movie I know somebody who can watch boba bet not die But he don't die. No. Oh, yeah, not. Yeah. Yeah, not Hot toys are pumping out mandalorian figures Well, wasn't that a thing they they fucked up when they first released mandalorans show that they didn't merchandise any of it Like they forgot to or some shit or at least with baby Yoda They didn't foresee. Well, they didn't yeah They didn't just see the popularity of baby Yoda and said they were like woefully underprepared Which baffles me by the way But they just woefully underprepared for the for how much merch and quantity of merch And then when it turned into an absolute phenomena Uh Boy, they could not you know how many oh god, I don't think I've had no shit. I can't tell you but I know I know how many Baby Yoda one one in one scales they sold And uh, is it a number that is like staggering? Yes, and well, I mean for for a one-in-one figure You have to take that to consideration and the cost of it is um Just so I can get a cost for you see sort of know the the kind of market that you're really appealing to Um, I'm gonna have to put grogu. Aren't I not baby Yoda? Oh, yeah Yeah, the life size one-in-one is Probably about 400 it's 400 dollars delivered. I would say 400 dollars delivered 300 pounds delivered and just fucking buy a furby You'll be fine And uh, yeah, I I know how many of those just one reseller sold just one reseller sold And it's um, it's absolutely great Yeah, I mean people were nuts for baby Yoda I hate him I get I think I hate him. I'm not sure What's uh, because because I guess I hate how Nothing the Mandalorian is Well, this is where I mean Obviously that I just meant like what is it a hate and it's like outside of the baby murder, I guess You know outside of the genocide, uh, it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's it's kind of a nothing character Yeah, I like it was just I just like I like grogu. They were just you know Little bit of annoyance a little bit funny I guess it it reminds me of how annoying I find it that after two seasons. I know fuck all about Um, Din Djarin our protagonist. Yeah Yeah Din Djarin, yeah, and genuinely it seems like season one was more concerned with trying to characterize him than season two was uh Because season one to like episode one was like he fucking hates droids He's got a past that involves a family getting killed and Mandalorians did these are all horrifically poorly developed and resolved, but at least they were there Yeah, there's there's an effort it seemed to me, but in season two they were just like no We got to show you some awesome stuff like Ahsoka While in season one as well, he took his helmet off to eat when he was in the village and He kind of was watching all these kids play right in front of him. Yeah Yeah, so yeah, this is like sudo He almost yeah Take his helmet off in episode four And that's that's where kara dune appeared in that episode and then people like kara dune Yeah, they did um and I was I was fine with it. I like the character. I guess Nothing really. Yeah, it's just nothing there. It's like all these characters. It seems it's just that thing because It was awesome seeing um, car weather's in there, but I mean he's kind of I Hesitate to say he's a nothing character. He's more he's more contradictive than nothing like he Yeah, he's like most characters where he's just an idiot. They're all everyone in the show is an idiot There's not one smart character in this show when you have all these assets Can you please? Get a right to beg you Um, but hey, you know mad lauren season three bookaboa fat asoka tv show. We're gonna be fucking awesome And maybe I guess all those will pour out when we have a break from fucking marvel Like ruining everything Back over to star wars because bookaboa fat's not even that far away, right? No, it's super close. It's coming out this year. I thought it's december. Is it december this year? I mean that's closer than anything else. I've got coming out at the moment Other thing that's way too close for me. It's like we've got so much stuff to do Well the fuck down Why can't these shows be as good as batwoman? I don't know It's just it's just something. They're not grasping not not enough of an agenda We need more agenda. We need more. We need more lesbians You know Debris Scott is not in batwoman. Well, maybe they can get him in the uh marvel or the star wars shows, you know get him Yeah, yeah Yeah, you could be a great imperial officer I was a bounty hunter who carries a single powerful pistol I like they do a tattooing eagle or something madon needs to talk to like the local officials And it's like oh, we don't just have officials now. We have these guys that the the the fruels or something and he's like I'm the leader of a we were hired Mop up this place No working in conjunction with the local enforcement I've never been the same since my daughter was kidnapped Seriously, it just appeared after an explicable event Some guy with a Animal it's some guy with a bantha suit on as he went around he tried to stop crime, but I don't know he disappeared pantha suit Bantha man Bantha man Bantha man Jacob jake just fucking hates bantha man. He's like Piece of shit vigilante taking the law into his own hand. Well, but then bantha man turns out to be a lesbian Actually, grant the woman about the one man But I what I have her So did the tva just feed the 14 million possible futures to dr. Strange in infinity war I guess if no one was actually making decisions the whole time end games plot holes are magically explained All the mcu's plot holes are explained because yeah makes you wonder what dr. Strange was actually seeing With the tva now and he was on a call with kang And he was like what's the idea here and kang's like you're gonna lose and he's like come on kang That sounds like this radio show Yeah, i'm checking out the multiverse is you you lose every time, but I tell us you what you're making a movie It's been pretty popular last 10 years. I don't want to fuck it up for you Your universe can win. I was like cheers. Oh my god. You're such a legend. He's like yep Yeah I'm gonna get stabbed at a couple of years time. It's gonna be awesome. That death scene sucked by the way Of course, I did the whole fucking thing. So of course, this is there's nothing good about it I I would have been way happier to see richardy grant loki do the stabbing. Okay, that would be way better well, I I think that uh They thought they were gonna make the richardy grant loki a bit of a laughing stock Because you know, he's got the like og loki outfit on which is like more of like a jester's Yeah caught jester's type of outfit and I thought ha, you know richardy grants what 65 maybe Uh something like that. So I thought he's gonna look ridiculous on this old man and he's gonna be like Screaming around and he turns he turns out to be the one absolutely gleaming light in this bit of piss that's loki with his uh Pulling up the um illusionary asgard and fucking loving it and then laughing in the face of death afterwards It's just like holy shit This guy is more loki than fucking loki any loki that we've seen Yeah, it really does accentuate it as well being surrounded by so much garbage Just watch that scene. You're like, oh man. This is I don't know. This is an act. This is an actor who's feeling something here Yeah, yeah, he's he's he's acting He's acting But yeah, but it's great because the guy was like no i'm i'm stuck here. I'm settling for my lot You know, I want to hide. I just want to exist as loki. I don't care that the boy Is uh, you know who holds dominion over me. I don't care as long as I just get to live And then at the end he's just like who wants to live when you can fucking be a loki And he's just you know ripping up asgard from the ground and building it and This dog's just like What's going on? And he's just loving it. He's just like screaming and Ah You remember he popped up in um in game of thrones and obviously rise of skywalker. He's like he just gets thrown into stuff and It's I can't even say in this but like loki actually took advantage of having him there for the brief time that they did Instead of just having him walk around and be like i'm rich deep ground he's in An episode and he has about five minutes of screen time tops And yet in that five minutes of screen time he had more development than any fucking character didn't that And then he was even by a smoke monster Yeah, you buy a smoke monster But you actually had a feeling That little little spark in the cold dead heart Yeah, and it's just like I remember these things And all these feeling businesses You know what this has heart That was that that was the uh, I mean that writer did have some writing credits to their name at least So we did get a writer that actually had a body of work Um crazy Yeah, and what it is it's kind of proving to be that way nowadays Um One day helgar and I will settle down on a farm and raise little hands right if only this war would end Oh dear god, what is half naked super human israeli woman doing her murdering my friends? Like it was aries i will get how we'll get revenge on those jews mark my words Oh my god The wife said he's yours and he believed her What's that a reference to what were we talking about hours ago? Say that again his wife wife said he's yours and he believed her Wife said he's yours Chat is that I do not know it was around we were still talking about wonder woman, I guess Oh, we got loads of brains in chat. I require someone remember remember this. Um The as kid thing Oh max lord's kid the wife said he's yours and you believed it. I I understand Oh, oh max lord. Okay A midweek e-fap you can't do this to me more. I had to oh, but we can I had to The thing is kang isn't dead in our universe. So I gotta do this show or maybe this is part of his plan. All right Imagining a medic in german army you kept your men alive for three years through some of the worst combat imaginable Then out of nowhere wonder woman bashes your brains in and kills This is a bizarre scenario you You do wonder what their perspective on all of it is just This fucking crazy woman came out of the shadows and just beat us all Come on as stop wow As I I approve that you can keep going, right Hey I'll I'll stick to my guns, man If I think if I feel a certain way I'll feel a certain way, man Because as would ride a car, but never an asian. I reckon as would ride an asian I love the asians exactly Uh, this is all kang's fault We can everything's kang's fault. This is where I mean it absolves everybody's responsibility now too. That's another bonus So that's all I can Loki in soviet They just develop free will in the middle of the conversation. Well, so this is the thing There's no I'm guessing you don't feel any different than because you would never have known anyway If you know what I mean, like as far as I can tell I I am operating Without someone fucking killing me the second I don't do something they don't want because I get reset back anyway, right? So if they disappeared one day, I wouldn't really feel the difference Yeah, but why would did he I guess he yeah, I was wondering what was the Like why? He had the everything written out But when they got to his office He had part of the conversation that they have in the office written out, but then He's like stopped and then he went Now there's nothing written Everything from this point onwards is free will it's your choice Why would he have a portal to his castle? Well, because he wanted them to have this choice But he didn't want to write how they would what they would choose So he wanted to potentially he wanted to potentially die Oh, yeah, he wanted he wanted to die. He wanted that. Why would he battle them? He didn't there's the thing. We'll watch the episode and then we'll talk about it. Don't worry So we're actually there's no excitement and there's no fighting And there's no action Yeah, he he didn't fight them. They fight each other and it's retarded, but we'll we'll see we'll see it You'll you'll love it. There is a heck of a lot of sitting and talking though. If you're into that Lots of walking No walking and talking and sitting and talking No alligator no ritchity grunt. Nope. No, they're dead. Well, ritchity grunts do Well, his character's dead. He's not ritchity grunt. He's a live people Hope so At the same time like you may as well just bring him back, right? They fucking broke the multiverse. Whatever he could be back It's too late. He's he's out of time though. He isn't in the multiverse. He's out of time Well, wherever he came from surely that that same splinter could happen again, whatever, right? Is that No matter is whenever they kill kang oh all the magic of people who were yeah all those multiverse things No, they go back to being their own multiverse. It wasn't actually Oh, that'd be great. Everything that the the cloud ate. It's all everything's fine now. Uh Yes, so all of those multiverses they they get to happen now And we get this wonderful Libertarian timeline multiverse where just everything is you're free to be your own multiverse. Hooray Yeah, I'm low-key boy low-key girl low-key alligator. Look you're all In the multiverse. I know there's all those infinity stones that they joke about at the tv a in the first episode Uh-huh. They they could prove to be real fucking important They could They were a paper way It's so funny such clever writers Yes Hmm, it's like a wink a wonder wink. Oh reference. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, yeah Wonder wonder wonder wonder rape No, I wonder wonder what's in a wonder week As wanted clarification about Pedro's Asian son to suss out if he was adopted or not because none can love the adopted As much as Pedro loves his son That's a throwback When did when what that was the arrival debate episode, wasn't it? Oh, man, that was that that's taken that's that's old school Old school meme the adopted And and I was about to say an enemy force of evap wait, we're aligned with the adopted, right? We're okay with them I can't remember It was it was everybody else. It was a post word around like was it cj stream or it was whose stream was that? Um Which thing It's where the the the goliath stream. I was jay was that on that was jay Was that from did is that where we got that? It was it was reference. That was that was a part of it too. I think orphans and goliath. There's some in this connections there It's hard to remember. You'd have to check the wiki When they when they said that the enemy was called a lieth. It's like It's good that they didn't infringe on our copyright by using goliath Wait, are you guys saying that having the mum in the story? Even by word of mouth would not be better emotional weight to the kid and max's relationship Uh, I don't think we said that. No, it's neutral I guess it would depend on Well, so they're asking us if we think the story wouldn't be improved by having The mother of the child in in the story for one woman 84. Um, no, not necessarily. Yeah, I don't It potentially it could add a lot of the story but at the same time Yeah, because it was it was really about their to relate their relationship as far as I was concerned The thing is talking about improving wonder woman 84 It's like I feel like we would go from the ground up and we change a lot I'd be happy to keep Maxwell Lord. Um And his son I and maybe otherwise maybe not but I feel like if we're talking about repairs. We should probably focus on uh I think what was the conclusion that wonder woman was like one of the worst parts of that film Like we wanted gone. She was ruining it every time it showed here. We'd be like, uh Go back to max Definitely a movie that is ruined by its protagonist constantly getting in the way. Yes Well, the whole film is just They look okay. You just hate it because you hate magic wish stones I got asked and yet you'll accept the you'll accept a kryptonian baby You won't accept magical wish stones. Fuck you or an or an asian child I kind of got this horrible feeling that the whole premise from party Jenkins was just hey Everyone likes the 80s at the minute. Let's just call this wonder woman pick a year in the 1980s Well, everyone read into it Some sort of meaning. Yeah, what the fuck would you choose 84 if you weren't trying to evoke a certain thing with that bag is like This is just the 80s. What I don't think it's can't read. Have you seen the script? She writes and then have a A scene set in an arcade with arcade games that didn't come out till 1987 I remember I can't remember who pointed that out first when I when I saw I was like, oh, shit They should have had an arcade expert You're gonna have an arcade Made a mistake Kang did not he pre-ordained it. It was just like this is how it should be. Yeah, kang wanted it that way We're doing you know what and fro dilemma except with kang Which one's that? Uh god and good Is it is? Yeah, is is um Everything's good because god says they are or this you know are things good independent of god and he just does good things So are things good independent of kang or not? So When was the uh the reagan election was it um 82 No 80 and 80 84 Okay, so it could have been wonder warm 1980 and Yeah, instead of reagan getting into power max. Well lord does And there's it could be him getting into power in uh reagan's second term, but I get I get I get yeah And or yeah, and and it's not how it should be, you know reagan should have a second term and and uh She realizes that something wrong and there's like, you know lots of higgled difficulty stuff because But it's just I don't know, but they if you're gonna have a year you make it specific to the year make Make it, you know irrelevant to what's going on because that's what I believe we all thought was gonna happen Yeah, I guess we thought it was gonna have something to do with 1984 But why would we think that it's like yeah, I don't know Um, yeah, it's the most un 80s 80s movie ever Well, and it's it's in that selection where you just like they do it because Unfortunately the 80s the 90s even the naughties now. It's like it's it's an aesthetic to be um Productified is better words than that. I'm just tired. Um This is like Please what you know buy our thing because you like that era You think and then they don't even like do anything fucking with it Cruella was when they're going around exploring the 80s and everything they play like opera music. That was weird. Yeah Weird movie man very few people liked that one. It was a like what are you doing kind of movie? I know shit. That's why Who's it? Sorry, is it right? Did you say don't let putty Jenkins right? Yeah, that's a lot of people Don't have a lot of people right That's a lot of people And jeff johns and jeff johns can write jeff johns is a good right A comics. Yeah He is but my god this this was You know just kind of felt as if this had gone patty you go for it girl It did that was the idea right? She was given like full freedom this time because she wasn't with the first film and that's That this was the commonly agreed upon thing I don't know if you still feel this way as but people were like the only reason the third act sucked in wonder woman Everything else was great was because it wasn't the ending patty wanted. It was the ending the studio wanted And then I heard that yeah, and see I As you as you've probably already guessed we think the whole film is pretty poorly written And that it's more of an excuse for just the big battle at the end was that probably is the worst part of the film still um It's fucking insane for loads of different reasons Aries is it ain't like on the same level as 1984 that's the thing Yeah, so this is the thing right you're like oh, so maybe it was the studio made a bad film worse to us But then again if she's gotten full control and she ends up with something worse than the first wonder woman Well now what? So, yeah, I don't know is interesting to think about um Very interesting. Love you guys. Oh, that's that's nice. My goodness gracious. I think we're just friends After miles Oh, that's usually apart from metal is usually what gets thrown in there. He's not here. So it's not as effective now Uh, she's killed Eric maria remark remark essentially all is not quiet on the western front anymore Oh Um if one woman turned herself invisible she would probably lose herself What Maybe Which is annoying too by the way, she should be a really smart character. She's been around for fucking ages She typically is typically is smart in the comics and stuff, but So she should be the one giving people advice and understanding stuff better the most because of all the history It's it's it's why I find it weird when people are Uh, what's the name godot? She's like great wonder woman. It's like why do people say that? I don't get it. I don't understand why people Yeah, but like she's not anything like her though. Yeah, I never want her weakening at the camera One day, right when they reboot it 50 years from now and she's in the end credits thing doing a wink. That'll be shit. I'll hate it Uh, george bush will be released into the atmosphere ensuring complete global penetration. What? George bush will be really george bush Not even not his brother jeb. Oh, I see that's just that's that's just discrimination. Jeb deserves to be released into the atmosphere Oh, look the world we get increase happiness. We get jab in the atmosphere Should do it Uh chats for chat gods kick for j kick for the j-throne also high rags Hello there What if someone wished to be teleported to another world like inside a video game or book or something? How could they renounce their wish? Because we don't think about it. I guess they would teleport them out Back into well, I mean well, they wouldn't be around to hear her stay renounce it. Oh, I see what you mean Yeah, but tangwood The um show up so the way you were supposed to renounce your wish. You don't renounce you wish. I'll melt you. Yeah The weird thing is I do these days well on the on the weekend between nine and five The weird yeah Aang's idea to preserve the timeline was to kidnap a whole bunch of Variants and wipe their memory and create a special Zone in space time where they have a bureaucracy based on earth 1950s aesthetics and use paper So that I gotta show you this episode so that you get to have all of your references ready to destroy You have to wait until a week and a half rags before we can take down low key. I'm so sorry We'll get there though Don't don't apologize I'll cherish every day between now and then um but yeah, uh regarding the um The way that the rules work and everything like obviously it was kind of addressed with um Madlok it trying to respond to it, but So at first it's you have to touch him Then it's he can do it from tv because the president describes the way that the tv transmits it as it's almost like You're touching people or something like that So it's like oh, okay, and then by the time you hit the end of the show He's just in a beam of light doing it. Do you remember that? It's like I don't know what the fuck is happening anymore. Um, yeah, why aren't you in a beam light, dude But yeah, you can't possibly get all the wishes renounced. What if someone wished to be dead? How do you how do you get them to renounce that? Like go to the afterlife. Can you can you? He's like no I'm fine. I'm happy Could you please bring his hand back Dang it seems like people, you know, they really took advantage of the wish opportunity and we're gonna have to get you to mop it up It wouldn't make any sense because I bet you Tens of thousands of people's wishes would were I wish so-so-so was dead Oh, and the film wants to sell you that it's like she tells everybody It's kind of it's it's beautiful to accept the fact that things are the way that they are instead of has leukemia Yeah, and you remember that you have all those shots of all the people smiling. It's like, oh, this is yeah You you have all those billions, but it you'll be fine. You don't need your parent It's it really it's like a little glimpse into the mind of the writer I guess patty really thinks that humans are just shitty people They don't deserve any better All of the wishes are just bad They give us I mean come on They think we're all pigs Have you see you heard the way that they speak, you know, look the actors on twitter the way to speak about people and Fucking how we like like sheep to them like pets I can see why they think that most people are sheep. Yeah, maybe they have a boy with some people. I don't know remember as Loki is doing well people loving it, you know Oh, yeah, it's it's um fucking now Because they really they released numbers for that because that was actually worth releasing the numbers four. I'm assuming is that how that works? Yeah Well, they released for the first episode Okay We I don't think we've had anything since but There's like a site which is able to kind of track now So we might be able to get some approximations On the um On the figures for them, but um Yeah, it did better than one division and I think it's been the most successful Show yet or yeah What do you guys have guessed out of the three shows would be the most successful one and why largely because the most subscribers on dis in plus That's not right in terms of concept. Yeah. Yeah. No, so I'm saying which one do you think was going to be the most successful based on trailers, let's say Based on trailers. I thought one division That's funny. I was gonna say Falcon the Widow soldier Um Wow So my rationale is more so that one division looks a little kooky and strange and not the usual Marvel thing Loki is like What the fuck is this like we're in we in space Stealing with some kind of like it's a little confusing. Where is who is this one? He was oh, so he's from Avengers 20 I feel like the normal person might just be like this looks weird Not that they wouldn't watch it just they're like, huh Falcon the Widow soldier is like it to me came across as like this is your Marvel content You're getting characters, you know, and they're gonna be battling some bad guys and Doing some stuff along the way and it's it's taken over after your good old Steve Rogers I'm gonna see what's happening with his friends afterwards. I just figured that would be the one that most people be like Yeah, I can watch this this will make sense Or the they just wanted bucky to get his top off Well, yeah, of course um, but Did you think Loki would be the most successful because it just seemed like the most out there sort of thing and just like interesting Um, I I feel like enough people remember Low not specifically but they remember. Oh, Loki. He was that fun villain um And I think people really like, you know the actor and that's my thinking the concept of the time travel cop idea I think people really Really would like that I knew fuck all about it. I just knew Loki was plucked into with some kind of weird time and space thing I didn't know who's gonna be like Well, it's funny because a lot of people do describe it as like, oh, it's a fun little, you know Owen Wilson and Loki traveling through time. It's like that really only happens the one episode It's like Mando and the bounty hunter thing. It's gonna be a bounty hunter show. It's like, no, it's gonna be Shit with a baby. I mean, yeah, he does bounty hunting. He doesn't really do bounty hunter ever Not anymore. It's not what's gonna happen for Mando season three. Yeah, never really was it all Maybe he'll finally have a bounty Like the to do something with Yeah, he'll go to the thing pick up a bounty and pick up a bounty and then uh, I'll be crazy some money buy a new ship Yeah, um, I would have thought one division was the most risky. Um In terms of getting people to watch it just from the Some some people could genuinely think like is this literally a fucking sitcom with those two. Okay And after watching mcu movies, I could see people being like, I don't know if I want to watch that Yeah, then again, I have no idea what just normie sludge people like sludge music most It's like I hear most songs on the radio today and it's just generic Bland crap and I just I guess people really love it But I just don't I just don't get it. I don't get how people can love this just stuff I just don't understand already too old. No I don't know I just don't want generic pop music from Generic pop person man Who has a tattoo on their face or whatever and their quirky is damaged thing? I don't I just don't Yeah As the presence of that asian boy is suspicious. Well, maybe as thought he's gonna be the villain I'm going they're clearly they've always the villain. I just don't know it They've villain coded him When you got yeah No, I've more villain coded Maxwell lord because if Maxwell lord's meant to be the villain Of the piece and they were setting him up to be the villain of the piece and he was meant to be this like You know, we heard all the things, you know, he's gonna be like an allegory for drug And all that fucking stupid stuff and he was really in that like a you know an allegory for capitalism excess he was the only character in the film Yeah, I know I know but he's the villain because he's the villain right and uh So, you know, when you see a villain then you kind of Expect villainous tropes. He's a tragic hero to go alongside. Well, he kind of Turned out to be Wonder woman is just tragically our hero. Well, I felt like it was more his movie than hers. I I was kind of You know more invested in knowing how his story was gonna go. She was just this annoying person who kept showing up Yeah, I'm like fuck off. I want to see what happens to Maxwell lord. I want to see what he's done doing Because it's like oh, it's dumb People competed to lie a liar, right? It's um You get this lie liars like a gazillion times better than this That all bruce almighty. Sorry. I think it was bruce almighty Where it's you watch a man with so much power. What does he do with it? And what does he deal? How does he deal with the repercussions? Just like, yeah That's a more interesting story than wonder when we're going. How do we stop him? I wish to You had to give me the rock But let's be honest you wouldn't If if this wasn't a wonder woman film, we I doubt you'd hardly find this character particularly interesting Do the maxwell lord? Yeah No, yeah, I would if it wasn't a wonder woman movie Yeah, if this was uh Some dc just a dc or just some Not even dc. I want to watch a movie that is called maxwell lord. That's how much I like him No, no, this is 2020. You got to call it lord Yeah, that's right. You're right lord dc story Yeah max lord or just yeah A dc story Wishing is his first day with wishes and he's happy any and the existential dread hasn't set in so he dances down the joker stairs Well, we know what the joker wish for Do we Yeah What was that all this fucking shitty tattoos to be removed and he got his wish in the snider cut Yeah, because at the end of the snider case got Also, I think uh, we're probably capped out at around there. Um Yeah, I'm dead We have What's funny is we've got another long fab prepared for saturday And so I'm gonna collect up these super chats that we've not managed to to to finish off in the future um But it's been it's been a heck of a lot of fun And before we do any kind of head and arrow hey as do you want to do want to tell the audience? What you're up to these days and where to find you and what's what's happening In about five minutes, you'll find me in bed um Am I gonna snooze snoozing? I hope I don't know I might try and Feel the electricity. I'm not sure yet. Um, yeah, you can you can find on hill versus baby face on youtube And because I've been banned from twitter now For quoting game of thrones You can find on instagram at hill underscore versus underscore baby right even twitter hates game of thrones now Yeah, I know what happened with them didn't didn't jeremy and gary both do it as well. What happened to do they both get unbanned? well, uh gary had He still had a lifeline a seven-day lifeline. So he's now used up his lifeline. Okay, so if gary messes up again He's gone for good and Jeremy eventually got banned for that but he got banned unbanned and then banned against that sweet For reference if anyone doesn't know, um vala mogulis is the thing they say all the time in game of thrones. It means all men must die um, and so saying all men must die as a quote for game of thrones could get you fucking banned on twitter because it's a I thought that was like hollywood slogan All white men But that was part of the joke that was part of the joke and then twitter twitter just like I can't believe well, and I didn't say that Violence against whatever promoting violence. Yeah. Yeah promoting violence against a group of people, you know in some ways I'm actually like at least they actually did it for guys for once. You know that's a plus But um, it's unfortunate they decided to enforce their rules at that point It's like oh But yeah, uh, you run you run a whole bunch of shows they can catch you on I know you do your sunday one. I know you do your uh, your hot toys one. I know you're on friday night tights That's with with gary. I know you run Real bbc on tuesdays Tuesdays. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a busy boy. Yeah, I did And I did an eight hour e fat nine hour e fat tonight. Oh my goodness. Yeah, there's only a short one Oh, yeah tomorrow. I'm on quarter blacks channel at nine p.m. UK time And we're going to be discussing dread From 2012 which is fucking awesome. I like that movie. Mr. I like it. He really deserves another time plane dread more time plane dread let him he just deserves Everything because he just uh everything he's in he just steals if you ask me Yeah, you put so much effort in and he's the one actor in the history of the world that sacrificed big seed for the character Yes He doesn't get you see a A a back of the head shadowed shot at the beginning of the movie as he puts the helmet on and that is it Yeah, the helmet is on ladies and gentlemen. It is on and it doesn't get removed He doesn't deserve the boys. He's better than that. That's the shame. He's carrying the boys as far as I've concerned It's car liable's charisma Along and uh, what happened to um, what happened to the other uh, fucking Mickey on lander No, it's it's five o'clock in the morning nearly my brain's dead. Um, god damn the fucking Simon peg character Um, oh, he's where the fuck was he in season two? Well, there's no room You didn't have a story for him. No, I think he mentioned his dad once in a throwaway line. So there was that but yeah, uh, No, no, no, I mean, I mean that was that's when sorry when the boys comic was written It was written with simon peg as that character So you're asking where was hui the whole time? Yeah, where was static hui where the fuck was hui was just like not doing anything Dude his his arc in season two is fucking all over the place. They had no idea what they were doing with them Which is funny because season one is way more straightforward with everybody. There's it's very clear what everyone's journeys are Yeah So anyway, friday, uh, fifi fap. Yeah friday friday night tights sunday subnautica sunday Uh, and there might be a more than there might might not might not know but there might be a more than there might be a more than Yeah, all right. Well, and as for the for the rest of us, um We well, you'll see us on saturday when we're talking about black widow extensively about how horribly bad it is We're gonna take a while Quite a move. Yeah, it's gonna be I just want to thank chat thanks chat for being chat. I do love you Absolutely. Yeah Uh As for any. Oh, yeah, of course the following saturday then we'll be loki and we're gonna have Uh, hopefully asback with mr. Drinker Oh, they do Like the idea that you think they matter you generally times we pissed them off Like quite a bit. No, no, no. I'm playing. I'm playing with the chat. I'm playing. I've been playing with the chat They've we've been we've found some fun tonight We've told them things that they will never forgive us for And it's how do you think how do you think they felt when we told them the winter soldier's bad? I think how do you think they felt? I think well, I mean, I I don't know how they felt but when I heard you say that folk Falcon and winter soldier or captain america and winter soldier? both Well, when when you said captain america and winter soldier crap, they went whatever And when you said when he said falcon and the winter soldier shit, they went you got you got them, right? It is. Oh, yeah, they're on board with that one. I think everyone is You're on board with that for sure Um, was there it made us the angriest of the three Yeah, it's still fucking annoys me thinking about it. I I hate that one. Yeah is an asshole of a show It's something about it man. Even Loki. I think we were just numbed for Loki. We're just again, it's gonna be dumb. It's all stupid It's all shit. Fuck it. I agree But I never fucking expect them to steal free will from the entire MCU or the make all choices meeting list down to a guy called Cag why the fuck did they do this? And I and I had a huge debate with somebody and they were just like no, we've got free will and I'm like don't Not in any meaningful way as far as I'm concerned kang decided which of the billions of choices everyone makes which ones he liked the most No, that's it Um, thank you for having me on. Oh, thank you. Thanks so much for hanging out whenever someone Not everyone makes like a long time. Yeah And um, what an adventure it's been we went through like a thousand topics in just nine hours Yes Remember when we were talking about the crazy house remember when we were talking about That how could I forget mawler the grammar song? And jinx reloads reacts Oh Good jinx reloaded. Yeah, that's what his channel was called. I think jinx reloaded Someone like that jinx. Yeah Um, and now he's getting um 2000 views per video Yeah, and I have no fucking uh You know what? Hey man. He's we are he just turned to him man. No, um, I know on these. Sorry. That's a fib If you go to his channel He's pushing himself on another channel Oh, and so I went to the other channel and he's getting about 200 to 400 views Hey Well, you know what those are the true fans the og's the ones that really respected his reaction Yeah, out of the 1.68 million Yeah, they they were the ones that were the real Yeah, they knew something They knew something was important there. They were like, yeah And that's with about I think you had about 24 000 subs Well Good for him Uh, yeah, thank you so much for hanging out for us So, uh, free rex was there anything playing that game? Was there anything you guys wanted to say before we uh, I I never remember if there's something you guys want to announce ever I'm just like, oh, I've talked enough Mm-hmm. Where are you from videos out? Just No, nothing really at the moment All right. Well As I said, I'm gonna collect these all up put them in our our backlog as I said Yes, I said ass. I said Oh, that should be your second channel as I said Well, my second channel is called hot toys and it's opening up very soon Is it got ass in it? Fringy, what's your second? What what's your Second channel name tell the maronic I know I know Yeah, this is That you stole from it. It's okay. That's it's it's yeah That's sort of this you're a kind you're a kind forgiving soul Yeah, well, yeah, that's because I know I've been having on it I'm a true ringy fan. I thought everyone else was much. Yeah, I'm like the I'm like the uh, like the jinx fans The true jinx fan Uh Alrighty, well, yeah, thanks. Thanks for hanging out with us everyone. It's been a it's been a fun old time It wouldn't even be that long before you see this again. Like I said Saturday and um, it's true Thank you so much for uh, the the soup chats and well the interaction. We've had a lot of fun But that's that for efab on this wednesday Good night all Yeah, good night everybody. We will see you soonish in a couple days three days I've seen a couple of weeks about a week and a half