 Hello and welcome to Libre Graphics meeting. My name is Pedro and I'm really happy to be here even if just remotely with you. Now you see on the screen I'm a graphic designer. During my free time I like to have some tight little projects of mine. Also I do workshop teaching, namely Inkscape and other graphic tools here in the city of Prague. And in today's talk how you can integrate others in your own workflow using Collabra Office and Collabra Online. I do work at Collabra Productivity which is one of the departments at Collabra. A place where really cool things happen from VR to games. And I do recommend you to check. In our specific department, Collabra Productivity, we focus on Productivity software. Meaning office tools while being one of the biggest contributors of the Libre Office project. In today's presentation I will be demonstrating how we usually work between designers, marketeers, developers. And I will be doing so by going through three different types of situations that you might end up in. Hopefully this will help you improve the way you work. Of course before I get into that I want to go through the tools we will be using to illustrate all this. So Collabra Office is the supported version of the Libre Office. Where you get official support, guidance, development and also solutions to any problem you might have. Be that migration, feature request or just in general long term support. Now the cool thing about this is that all of the development sooner or later ends up being merged to the upstream project. And thus creating a very synergetic relation between people, partners, customers and communities. Collabra Online. Powerful online suite based on Libre Office that supports all major document formats which you can integrate in your own infrastructure. It allows collaborative editing and excellent office file format support. From ODF to NES formats. I'll do this with one goal in mind to make open source rock. So as I was saying, Collabra is actually the driving force behind putting Libre Office in the cloud. And this is quite visible by checking not only of course our slides, all these information is really nice, but to see real numbers, right, to see real commits done by us. And we recently released our continuous integration and made it public, right? So right now, by accessing the first link, you will be transported to our CI, to our Jenkins public CI. Where you can see, you know, where you can see our builds, failed builds or successful builds, what's the problem. And hopefully it helps to bring more people to the open source side and even develop and help us and help you creating a better tool. The second link is basically a blog about it where it goes through all these details. Now, as I told you, I'm going through different types of situations illustrating how you can use these office tools to your advantage. So let's imagine you need to create an icon, an asset, you know, it can be an element in a toolbar, a button. For now, let's imagine that you need to do this while discussing and while talking with a team compounded by many people. Let's suppose, you know, a developer that will probably use that element, maybe a marketeer that might want to update or give the input regarding branding, and possibly your user or even customer, right? And for these, let's suppose we need to create a slider, a slider element. Yeah, so this slider element needs to communicate, you need to communicate this to the team. You know, there is this new requirement and you have this icon and you want to share. You want to get written and visual feedback, right, from the team and even between each other and you want to collaborate. So it's not just one way direction, but it should be multidirectional even, and we should iterate and probably improve upon. So, and now we reach this point of fiction versus reality, right? You could probably, and maybe the easiest solution would be just to send an image or a document, a final document like be that the PNG, PDF, etc. And that's it. Unfortunately, fiction doesn't equal reality, right? So, while you will be sending this one document to your team, actually your team would probably reply in this manner, meaning that you'd be receiving many answers, multiple answers, multiple feedbacks at once, and it will be very chaotic for you, right? And those feedbacks would come in many forms, right? Right from chaotic emails, private message, maybe chatting with you in the chatting program that your company uses, or SMS, or, you know, I don't know, you name it, right? Also some very different feedback, right? From small notes to notes that are actually part of an image, so like screenshots with some arrows, like, you know, and then maybe some of those colleagues of yours would already talk with you directly through a call. So now you have these minutes to write, to type it down, to write it down. So, you know, and then possibly many misunderstandings, and now you need to fix these misunderstandings. So probably we could do it in a slightly better way. And that's what I wanted to illustrate, for instance, with this workflow number one, right? So, basically something that they already know, or that, you know, something that is similar of something that they already know, but that has all these extra benefits from online collaborative iterations. And I think this is a very good argument to make between using office tools as a bridge between team members, instead of just relying in poor communication, in different communication channels, and instead utilizing the office suite, in this case, a collaborative office in coordination with a collaborative online. And here we see a collaborative office, you know, where you can comment. And collaborate online, right? Which is the tool that everyone already knows, right? Office tools, all the, or many of the advanced options that your colleagues already know, with added value of collaboration. And now, even with these new possibilities in the mobile field, right? We do have a free Android and iOS app, and of course give us feedback. Now, back to our workflow. You are a designer. You want to design that element. You just finished designing in your favorite tool. And the cool thing about using collaboration, office and collaborate online as a bridge and as a way to mediate communication is that without you doing nothing else, without exporting, you can simply copy paste that element inside of Impress, for instance, or even a drag and drop inside of Impress, just like that. And you will have the SVG there. Now, this gives a couple of advantages, because now you have a document that can of course document the progress on that discussion and on that specific element. And you have all the possibilities of commenting, revisioning, and even tracking changes. This is a little very interesting tip. You can, when you have an SVG in your Impress, you can always decide if you want that element to be treated as an image, or if you actually want that element, that SVG to be treated as exactly vector. Yeah, so if you do that, it means that later you and the others sharing that document will be able to change the color and even the elements of that icon without the need to install extra tools that they might know. So for instance, your market here might not be comfortable or even know nothing about some vector graphics tool like Inkscape. But it might already know and have quite the experience with office tools. So why not use something that they already know, at least as this intermediary step. So for instance here, you would add notes, right? Basically contextualize the element, why it was requested, what was the situation there, possibly even reference some user story that would be related to. And this work can now be extended online. And now even adding content, right? So for instance, now your marketing, you share this with your colleague that works in the marketing department. And now that person is already adding context to this element, right? Maybe some first slide as an introduction that will be also helpful for the other team members. Maybe you come along and say, oh wait, I also forgot to mention what's the name convention that this icon would have. And all these happening online, right? Again, more team members adding missing pieces, right? So maybe you have the person that is responsible for copywriting and now it comes here for the content and now it comes here. And those people are really into advanced features in the office. So they might want to tweak some paragraph styles, they might want to tweak some spacements there. And not only paragraphs, bullet, numbering, like all these advanced features are available. And discussion keeps on going, right? Discussion, we keep track of that conversation, right? We see now a comment regarding specific slides. We can modify, we can reply to them. And you remember that tip I gave you a minute ago that you can choose how the asset can be interpreted by, in this case, in-press. If you do so, and if you convert it to be interpreted as a vector, and you can edit it in place, that as such, and you can do this right there and versioning, right? It allows, again, an awesome argument to make, to use these tools as a bridge between the team members. Is that you can have all these documentation, all these progress documented while having these extra features like, for instance, the history, the versions history. And not only this is available, but this is very well integrated with many of our partners, right? For instance, next cloud, on cloud, it can be really fully integrated with your own cloud. And, for instance, this is an example of those, of that versioning happening, right? You can not only see the list, but even preview it. Small asset and icon, that icon suddenly after discussion might need some more states. Other team members want to jump in and contribute with documentation. They can do everything can happen within that document. And, you know, all this working parallel, right? Without no one waiting for the other team member, no one blocking. That's it. Now, second workflow. Imagine, in here is slightly different. In here, we are talking about minutes, talks, right? So something as this is happening now. You know, you need to take notes, you want to write it down. But those should be integrated, fully integrated in the tools that it's already being used by the team. It should be easy to find in your project or in your company. We are all suddenly seated around the virtual table. And we are all chatting and probably via some kind of software. Let's think about Metamos, right? And there's already a lot of chatting going on there, very valuable information there. And we don't want to discard none of that. And when I say Metamos, it can be many of the other tools and services out there, right? And I'm happy to say that Collab or Online integrates very beautifully with all of these tools and services. So there is already integrations with that. So you can still use this nice mediating approach as we discussed in the first workflow without discarding nothing that was already discussed in none of these tools. For instance, using the Metamos example, I just have here for a real conversation that happened between me and our colleagues. And you see how easy it is, yeah? Maybe there is already a document, there is already a discussion going on and this document has been already shared. And now it doesn't make sense for us to create a completely different document or even create a different document without having any way to link it back to the chat, right? So here is an example where there is already a discussion going on, maybe a common thread in the Metamos. And in between that common thread, there is someone posting a document and that document can be previewed and edited even before go even without leaving Metamos. Where can I get this Collab or Online? How can I test Collab or Online? How much is the price? What's the price? What's the requirements? So we do have a demonstration servers, right? So you can just go to our web page. I actually just place here the page. So you can just get our demo servers by going to collaborateoffice.com. And you will see all the news. And if you scroll, you will see information about Collab or Online demo demonstration servers and all the information about requirements, how it's not really meant to be used in production situations, right? And also the list of servers that we currently have. And we also have a call to action for any other partner, any other posting partner that wants to be part of this list as well. So you will get all these information, how to get a demo server. And basically the only thing you need to do is that you can, for instance, get more information by going to Collab or Online, read everything and just press this try the online demo and you will have access to all the demonstration servers. So you can even choose the one that is better in terms of your geolocation. So with that in mind, I also would like to call your attention for many of other things we have in place. So again, mobile apps are huge. I didn't have time to go through them, but we do have nice videos demonstrating some cool features between our mobile applications and some other Googley office suites online. So maybe I can just very quickly show you. And we encourage our partners to help us provide demo servers as always. There is a big list, right? We have many partners so you might want to check that. And that's all. And I hope I was clear enough. Sorry for any, you know, misspoke word. But yeah, I think that's it. So you have here the links where you can find me. And thank you for listening. So, oh, thanks, Mark. And Lohang, thanks. And Circular, thanks. I appreciate it. And I also appreciate the, you know, the constructive critics regarding some of my, you know, the way I pronounced the chat, I think. So that's thanks for it. Yeah, so just give me a moment. I'm just going to the questions. Oh, yeah. And yeah, before going there, yeah, I need to say thanks. I really appreciate all the effort, you know, behind this, this organization of this remotely meeting, especially from Temote. I hope I'm not butchering your name and also Elisa the question. So let me just go through the questions. Yeah, so, yes, we are actually many of our integrations. We use them daily. So that, you know, that's nice. So we eat our own food. So many times we are a little bit, you know, annoyed by some nuisances or some bugs and we really want to have them fixed even before anyone complains. So and I think that's that helps with, you know, fueling the development. The Cambridge office, I miss it. Yeah, I'm just trying to read anything I have missed. Oh, and also I didn't have time to fit in many of the workflows, yeah, because I went to overboard with it. But I think I will upload them anyhow, probably in the Collaboration Productivity YouTube page, which we don't have that many videos because we are too busy building cool stuff, but we should probably give a little bit more attention to that detail. I'm scrolling back and I think maybe I, wait, I, yeah. So it's Collabra Online Using Activity Pub for sorry, there is one before. It's a Collabra Office Source Code or parts of it integrated into LibreOffice, helping its development. This is a question from Circular. So sooner or later, I think, as I said in the presentation, code gets merged, right? So specifically talking about Collabra Office, Collabra Office is the supported version of LibreOffice, meaning that, you know, the code is LibreOffice and every single thing we do, it's towards the LibreOffice project. That's why you see the number of commits and number of contributions, it's towards that project. So you're creating this synergetic relation between communities. Now, when I'm in supported versions, supported version is just that, you know, we have clients that basically pay us for, so we take the work out of their shoulders. Be that by helping migrating, be that because they want, you know, fixing a specific number of bugs or adjusting some things. So even though we are doing that because we are fooled by their enthusiasm, sooner or later it gets back to the project and does the infographics, which I think I forgot to link here, so I will just very quickly link here. So if you go to our website, it's in news and you should find it very easy. We will probably update these infographics again. So here you have it. What's the other one? Using activity pub for interoperability between other apps like Next Cloud, etc. Right now, no problem. Right now, I think we are not using anything related to the activity pub, but then again, I'm not a hardcore developer. I'm a designer, you know, and I like my job and also I help develop some stuff, but always on the visual side of the question, right? So that's great to have enterprise input in the open source software. Yeah, I think so. That's amazing. That's why I work at Collaborate because I really like the goal and even the motto of the company itself. So that's nice. I'm really bad with time. So probably it already passed the Q&A time. I don't know. Maybe someone can tell me. Yeah, so if not, it's fine for the time. Yeah, thanks. Awesome. Okay, thanks for answering. I still believe that some huge potential. Oh, thanks. Yeah, activity. Oh, definitely, definitely. I, myself, individual, like in a person, in a personally, like between my personal communication, I do use that, you know, via plume or some other stuff I used to write or communicate. Which, oh, many questions now. That's nice. Which is your tool for designing? Which software do you use? So I use, looking at my favorites. Yeah. So I use Inkscape, Gimp, Krita as well. But I also, and since, again, it goes back to this eating your own food. So for instance, even the infographics you, I just shared and many other things. I actually try to work in a way that it fits these workflows in a way that other team members can see and can collaborate with me. So for instance, if I do some icons or some specific asset in Inkscape, I will then embed them either in Impress or in some, you know, so we can all communicate like this. But yeah, this is probably my main tools of design. Of course, there is also other tools that are not specifically for interface. Yeah, like I personally use as well sometimes, like SIMFI, you know, CadenLive, yeah, basically. Let's, I need to go back. Which is your two eyes, the same person. Okay, if there is other questions and you can add anything you want, nice. In the version I have, Arabic and Hindi are not well supported. Sorry, I should read out loud. In the version I have of LibreOffice, Arabic and Hindi are not well supported. Is it something that has been improved already? Talking about Arabic and Hindi, Unicode scripts, yes. To be honest, I'm clueless. I'm clueless regarding that specific topic. Sorry, I cannot help you. That's why Collaboration SVG, do you collaborate with other graphic, graphic designers? With SVG file, if yes, how? I'm not sure, I understood the question. But yeah, basically, you know, like if I can do, imagine, there is something I can do, like the infographics, I could do everything. I could do that document completely in Inkscape. It would be okay, I could even do it if I wanted to be really precise. I could, oh yeah, Scarface, I forgot to mention that I use Scarface. But I could do it in Scarface. But these tools might have an entry level a little bit higher for other people that are not designers. So with that in mind, for instance, using the infographics example, I prefer to use some tools like Inkscape to do, for instance, some icons, some assets. And then I end up to do the rest of the whole infographics, even using layers and stuff in a draw. So if you have LibreOffice installed, you can, and if you never try a draw and give it a go, it's getting better. So yeah. Basically, Inkscape is SVG, right? Yeah, like actually there was another big topic I was talking about in my presentation and again I didn't have time to discuss which was the beauty of open formats. The beauty of, you know, you are working in Inkscape and SVG, suddenly because it's SVG, you can have this integration with another tool, let's say Impress. You are using in Impress, but because we are using ODF, we are still using open formats. So all these easy way to integrate, it's really nice and it's due to the use of open formats. So that's why I love them and that's why I work like that. Having some spare time now, so watching a bit of the Q&A. Nice. Enjoy. Yeah, like basically, and yeah, one of the workflows I was going to talk and I also didn't have time for it was, let me see, I'm checking my own presentation. Yeah, so it was a business offer, right? So imagine you are a designer, someone pays you to do a nice template or a nice document, whatever that be. For instance, let's imagine a business offer and the difference between fiction and reality, that on one side of the spectrum, you might think like, okay, I will just design this in some of my regular design tools I use and then I will just send, but the problem is that probably that I could just share what I didn't present very quickly if I have time. So suddenly I'm completely, I'm going against any protocol, so sorry. Yes, please. Yeah, okay. Yeah, let's do it. So if the organizers don't let me or you can just let me know. So how I share. I think I want to share a presentation and I want to share these. Yes, share. Nice. So I hope do you see my screen? Yes, beautiful. So that's what I was talking, right? So the other business offer probably more people will be involved. It's less technical of a thing to create, but it will be probably not used one time, right? But multiple times, meaning that probably your client or your customer will probably use that as a template, right? And this can be really a recipe for disaster. If you didn't design since the beginning, thinking that needs to be flexible, thinking that it will be used as a template. So if it's going to be a template, why not simply use an office suite for it? Instead of using your own specific design tools, yes, you can do still the icons. You can still do some ornaments in your favorite vector graphic tool or big map tool, be that Inkscape, GIMP, whatever. But then why not use an office suite that you can really design it the way you want it and then even have the possibility to have all these advanced features as we saw just by using a browser. Now I have here some Portuguese community talking with me. So why not using an office suite that allows you to use templates, not only personal templates per user, but depending on the integration you use and depending on your storage solution, you can even use global templates so every user can have access to that. So this will probably facilitate the work of your client in the future, but to even make these ongoing conversations. So you'd like so much of this experience, you'll probably ask you again to do the same thing. And there is a technical thing, I will not go into it, I don't have time. And of course you have always the possibility to export to many formats. And I'm really, really happy not only of course with ODF, with Microsoft formats that if you need them, but I'm really happy that you can very easily with one click export to PDF that many people really want that. And EPUB, and EPUB is a really huge deal. I really like it, special for some businesses. So that's it, yeah, I went really fast in this workflow, I have another one, but I think that's it. I think that's probably much, yeah, probably enough. So yeah, yeah. So I managed to include that last workflow. So I think that's all. I really like to be able to talk with you, even though we cannot meet in person, which kind of sucks. I really liked how it was, for instance, in the previous year. But yeah, I think it went okay, and I really liked that you had a lot of questions. So yeah, I guess thanks. And have a good lunch if you are going to eat now. And I hope you are okay, wherever that I hope you are okay, especially regarding this COVID-19 situation, and that your familiars are okay, and I hope it will get better soon, as we could meet soon. Okay, so that's it. Bye.