 No, I'm hanging out with the main man himself, Director Gatonya. How are you? I'm fine, thank you. It's a nice day. How are you feeling? I'm feeling very good. Finally, we are out online. People can buy in Pakani and watch it. It's been a long time coming. So much activity we've done for this day to happen. Foxtone, feel it, amazing people. Not forgetting Baraza, who hosted us. Lovely place, lovely hub. So let's see what happens. I'd like to know how long did it take in Pakani? It took long, it took long. Even before we were contracted, I think we were talking about five to six years. And I'm sure even before that, before the idea was conceptualized and accepted, must have been longer. It's not a show that could have come quickly. It's not, and we understand that. Though, because of planning, we really planned it over five months of planning. Because of good planning, we shot very few days. So we shot 45 days, 10 episodes. You all team for Samburu, right? How was Samburu? Well, Samburu was hot, it was great. I love Samburu. I mean, I've served up in the North for long in, with film aid, WFP. I kinda like the place. Also the challenge of doing a story about the military and humanizing the military and seeing them in the context of work and family. This being the first drama that has attempted to do that. And we went all out to show the lives. It's like breaking that wall so that you see behind the fatigue uniform what really happens. But also life in the camp. People think it's always about tension and all. There's also humanity within that camp that we were showing. So Samburu was beautiful. My personal goal was to shoot a New York in Samburu where we all see New York and we've grown up seeing New York, Golden Gate, which is beautiful. But that, that terrain is beautiful. So to show it off bravely and it was nice. Yeah, it was really nice. I'd like to know, during this season of directing Fakani who was your favorite actor? There's never a favorite actor for a director. It's like your children really. But my most sensitive character was Farah. Kus Farah story was really strong and very hard. So even casting Farah was very hard. It took three months, three weeks to cast Farah. And he had to audition the most. Cloud Judah had to audition the most. And I needed Farah to crack. And I see what happens after he cracks. So the one person I kept really close knowing they are the glue for the whole story was actually Farah. I'd like you to tell us if you don't mind your best and your worst days of shooting in Samburu. What happened? What happened to Uda? I see Uda. Kus Uda kakujwa... Kus Uda kakujwa... Kus Uda kakujwa... Kus Uda kakujwa... Kus Uda kakujwa... Kus Uda kakujwa... Kus Uda kakujwa... Was it the worst day? The toughest situation. Because you know you were dealing with... This was a military and... what was hard? What was a bit challenging when you were there? Well, the challenging day was day one in which we had to trash everything we shot. The cameras were on working light. The lighting. So it worked as a rehearsal day. So in the end it wasn't the worst day. But my major scene maafu kuva kuweni cha jihil, jubu ni maafu wai ni kuwa kuwa kwa kuwa kwa kwa kuwa kuwa wai kewa. Kwa maafu kuwa kwa kuwa kwa kuwa kwa kuwa kwa kuwa kwa kuwa. Kupriwawei hafuzu na probu na ribu ni wajimwei. Tpersuunatu laguwei kwa kwa kuwa razihir transforming. Tansvゆu kabutu na tansf kwa kup过 lani. Tansv jubu ni mafutu na pinahal za Force wa kwa kuwa hoko jiguni na linii ni kАusu tu jiyi. But then at the end of the day they would say we are consulting. At the end of the day you pick what you are. And at that time there is a lot of political balance. So when we cracked a sort of unity of how we will work and do that big takedown. Our biggest takedown was four really. When we cracked that the rest was so easy. But it took us two days, almost three days and even a reshoot to bring out that one scene. What other films have you been part of? Welcome to my YouTube channel. I always wanted to do that. So my first film was called Dream Child by Zamaradi Productions starring Kabugi, who is now on Salem. Eddie Kamani, who is now on Sanura. Most of other great actors, Ebu Iyeme, who was on Aya in the Sky. Yes. So that was our beginner, Dream Child showed on Vumi.com. I think it's still there. But we are hoping to bring it back again. It's a very good film for high schoolers to understand what a high schooler really goes through. Sikuwa blame jua drugs na nini. Jua before. My second film was by Senseplay, Fakili Wali, and that was 46. Which has an extension till today on Netflix. Then Pakani became my first miniseries. Because I've been working on a lot of drama. I work on Kina, which is a daily drama. So that's a long. Ile kazi ase kali. And then we come out and do these crazy six part series. Lastly, director you're a content creator as well. And you've seen this story of content creators which possibly be taxed 15%. What are your thoughts on that? Let me tell you. Tell us. Iveje says ta kuchoma. There is a story I read. I was researching exactly the taxation, the 13%. Taxation has to happen. That's the reality that we can. Tulishajing is a box na hi demokrasi. Tulishajitun na hi zetani wenehiku. Junisha ito ni demonstration of crazy as Felakuti calls it. But when they invented the light bulb. The first person who claimed they invented it. I don't think they invented it. Ali endapali amenda kafungulia wa toa kawambia. Ibalb wneza siji fanyaivi. Awa ma politicians waka yona waka kwa impressed. Wow. 17th century. Then waka muliza ikitu. How will you use it? Aka se nae donno. But I'm sure you'll find a way to tax it. So you don't have a life to naish. Lazi matungi kutua. Lazi matu. But it's fair. We need to grow. We need the difference between us and maybe other economies ni. Nikiwa knamtu. We're releasing a film, a great film with a Swedish company called Bad Flamingo. Ita leta shida. Laki ni watazo ea. Inetwa katsu neza semaji na working title. But nikiwa kuna asini li realize systemia uki kwa na kitu. Ukuna eo ndogo. Nnecha eo ni kui expand. Nnecha tu iwi wana expand, wana kumbia. Do you know you can actually yon your culture? Shida e tu kio na tuka memeaivi kana wunoa. Tuna penda kuwuna. So maybe ni cultural thing. It's not even a fiscal taxing thing. Iiki tu takatu kuwuna kitu before eo. Hadi very well. Thank you so much. Welcome to me. You can follow me. Love you guys.