 We got a special guest. And that's the boss. So tell the people where you from. Brooklyn, New York, family, Brownsville side. Brownsville side, so Brownsville kind of mixed here on the music tip. Yeah, Brownsville been mixed in the music. How you stay out of that? Oh, I grew up in theville my whole life. So the niggas that's beef and all that shit, like seeing that on the internet. Yo, but I went to school with these niggas, like, I grew up in Brownsville house with Osborn, Blake. And from the village we know what I said. Because I ain't over there no more. They ain't going to catch me over there and show me I love the village. Shut up all my villaniggas for me. Love all y'all for me. It's always love in the hood for me wherever it's at. But for me, like, I don't know. It's been mixed since years ago, bro. And that shit has been dying out. It hasn't mixed for a long time. I think the internet made it worse. Clown. Because it was never that crazy. No, it was, yo. Back in my day. Bro, no. You don't feel like internet made it worse, though? No, yo, because of. Because even though that shit been happening, it's now on Instagram, Facebook. Now the niggas is in bash. Now he want to spend back. But he probably want to spend back. But that's what it been on Facebook. It's like, because niggas can go live now. It ain't the post, no, it's the live. Because when they go live, they go talk a lot of shit, like. Real time. Yeah, like, and you got niggas respond. You got the comments. They be the comments. To the beauty, though, boy. So, Finesse, how did you get your name? Like, what's the story? Yo, I've been Finesse's 10th grade. So I know Finesse, I was like 16. I just a tether on my arm. And Finesse just came from everything I did. Like, I did it like, through skill. What's something I want to do gracefully? I always want that help assistum. I always want to be the best. Like, so when I took the word Finesse to me, like, people use the word Finesse and think it's supposed to mean slime. Like, supposed to zone somebody, steal some shit. Like, he's supposed to do something like that. But I took the word in me, it's like, no, it's more like, how do I put in the words for y'all? Like, it's doing shit with skills, doing shit. Like, making it look popping. Oh, yeah, I get a good chance, I get a good chance. Like, if you look up Finesse on the internet, it means, like, intricately defund, like. Yeah. Like, intricate, like, say, son, that's. Okay, so you did your homework. Hell, yeah, I love being Finesse. I love Finesse, man. Before you, like, started pushing it, you did your homework. Oh, oh, D, oh, D. I see, I see, I see. It's the brand you got to bring yourself nowadays. You got to bring yourself. I see, I see, I see. So who was you listening to growing up? Oh, I was listening to everybody. I was listening to 50 Cent, Jay-Z. I love listening to Lil Wayne. So I'm fuckin' Meek Mill. That's one of my top five, pop, ice cube, like, I got an old soul. Yeah, baby, that's man, old people. Yeah, like, rest in peace, DMX. Like, rest in peace, DMX. You know, I listen to none of the new people? Like, these days, hell, y'all listen to, I listen to the five-yo, the sicky black, I listen to Max the Demon. I'm trying to shut out niggas, so I listen to, I listen to future dirt. Who rapping? Okay, this is making it short, cause he said that. Nah, cause I listen, I listen to new music for me. It's, it's fire. Okay, okay. So who just said, who would you say inspired you musically, or inspired your sound, or? Inspired me musically. See, I just say, and people don't like to give a, and I say Meek Mill in two part, like, cause overall, like, through my years of rapping and making music, like, those two us, I would listen to for days on days on days, I would sit in my room all day, play Meek Mill, old albums, DC One, Slammers and shit like that. So like, they always, and their stories is what spokes me, like, overall, it was Meek's story them that matched my whole life for shit, so. Okay, so they inspired you, they inspired you by, cause there was inspiration, right? Yeah. Okay, so like, okay, so who's some artist you would wanna work with? Also I wanna work with these days, if I could, any artist. I wanna work with Meek Mill, of the time I keep saying Meek, they probably would be like, this nigga's a Meek fan. Look, a lot of niggas is Meek fans, a lot of niggas, for me ain't nothing, for me my son is a real nigga, but I do some of my son Meek, if I could, I'd go on a track with him, Dirk, I'd go on a track with, so I wanna do some shit with probably like, Uzi, I wanna do some shit, probably like with Fabio, son, I fuck with my son. All the people, you pretty much said already. Yeah, for the most part, for the most part. So what kind of music would you say you make? The type of music I make, that's a good question, cause everybody, on New York on that drill shit now, and I don't really, my music, not the type of drill shit, I just like, I try to describe it as motivation music, like the way I tell my story when I'm breaking, when I'm breaking that shit down, I'm spitting it out, it's more like, it ain't like you gotta spin a block with 50 ops, it's more so, for real though, it's more like what you doing after that, like it's more so like, what's the pain in the feeling you get, like, cause the niggas make that street shit, like it's some cute shit and like, this nigga's happy when they go on to shoot the ops, like, I'll be G-troll, ain't no nigga that will on the mission, really sat in the V, smiling, spinning a block, and I mean that shit like, like anybody watching this shit, if you sat in the V, you know damn well, you was not smiling, happy, like. So you making music for them people that's like thinking about the repercussions? Nah, I'm making music for the people that, I gotta get the real understanding to it, cause everybody make that gun shit sound like, that's the way like, it's a way to be a street nigga, and not be a dumb street nigga type of thing. Yeah, I think it's not a lot of those, but there are those out there. Shit, I can't, shit. Shit. I'm saying it's not a lot of them, but it's some out there, so you speaking to those people? Yeah, I'm trying to speak, and if I can't, if there's not an audience for them, then the next generation coming up, everybody can't just listen to, yo go pick up a gun, like it's kids that's listening, like, I'm 23, it's gonna be kids listening to my song, I don't want them to be like, oh, I gotta go pick up the gun, I want them to know the fun, like then I might go after, pick up this gun and what's gonna come from that, like, why I gotta do this, like. I had a big impression after a year, like. And how it's like, niggas make it sound like, oh, recipes my man, like all that shit, all that shit is not fire, like niggas be saying that shit, like it's fire, that shit, it's a lot that come with that shit. So you being an artist, how do you separate the street shit from the hood shit? Shit, me? I'm, I'm fully tapped out the streets, like right now I've reached a point in my life and that's why I'm speaking like, cause I was one of them niggas, like out there running around, like doing mad, dumb shit, like I called like, I was on probation for two years in high school and they got up out that, had to do mad, stupid shit. High school? Yeah, cause I was still with me, you know what I'm saying, I was hustling this shit, like, I'm talking about finesse to me. Y'all gotta tell y'all. Look, I beat cases for me, Lawyer's girl, we be girl, we straight, all the time. So on the music tip. Always music, the old finesse to boss, always music. Strictly music. So in the studio, what's your studio process like? Studio process, I go in, boom, Luxor studio, that's why I record that shout out. I'm gonna shout out everybody, fuck what, cause for me, I fuck with them, for me and they helping the nigga out right now. But for me, I go in the studio, it's just me and my engineers too, and I don't need nobody up in that shit with me. I don't even, I smoke probably like two blunts in there, probably be a six, eight hour session. I don't like to be too dead. And like, all I need is my beats. I got my phone with me so I could read my lyrics for me, rap, and we just go crazy up in that shit. So you don't be having mad, mad people with you? Cause that distracts me. Like if it's too many people around me, I'm gonna be distracted. I'm gonna want to be like, oh, what's this person doing? Or this motherfucker might be on the phone. So it's gonna be, I like to lock in. Like I like to lock in and focus, take shit back. So being focused, definitely. Yeah, yeah. So when did you say you got into music? Or when did you start taking it more seriously? I got into music. See, I can, those two different questions. I got into music. I was like, name Tim Gray, cause shout out all my niggas for me. They had niggas freestyling us like that. We'll always be like in the classroom on the back of lunch. Mad bitches used to fuck with me cause I was freestyling. I was mad and nice. But I got to, I took, I got thrown college and shit. And that's when I really, I got in the studio and I did like a whole 30 song tape, drop that shit. Yeah, you didn't go to college? Hell yeah. I went to college from Fort. Nah, technicalities for me. Like it wasn't like I failed out. No, we ain't failed out. I was in the presence list, all that shit. Would you, would you go back? If I could have you, cause I had one year left. It was the fees and shit. Like college expensive kids. If you get, if you get a scholarship, get a scholarship for me. Like college expensive. Like that's the only reason why I ain't there. Like. Okay, okay. I'm real for real. Do you feel like it's worth it? Ooh, son. I mean, this is way off topic, you know? Nah, it's another, cause that's a part of what made me do music and shit. Like, I ain't, cause when I ended up in college, like I did, I did college shows and shit. I found out like music stuck with me and that was my main passion. And I found out how I wanted to be. So you found out music was your passion in college? Well, it stuck with me. So yeah, I guess you could say that. Cause I was shit could have stuck and it probably would have been like, but music never left a nigga. So, but yeah, though, it's like, I feel like it's worth it in terms of developing yourself and developing like your skills with people, like with people, it ain't like some, I don't think a book is the answer to anything type shit. Now I feel like it's just more so networking and being able to develop yourself as a person, like being able to stand up. Like that's one of the first times when people were alone and shit. So they become a different type of person. Yeah. Like, for real, for real. That's like different, actually. It's not how you feel, like. So, hmm. So what are some obstacles you face while making music? Obstacles, to be honest. Since I'm one of them, like I'm up and coming right now for me. So it's like, the people that's in them positions, like they probably not even at the top. They probably like middle or probably a little bit ahead of me. They kind of be reluctant to fuck with you. But it's like, we ain't getting no cloud off the nigga. We ain't getting no none extra off the nigga. So they kind of be like, you would come up front with the cash. You got everything ready to go and they still, it's like, they won't want to fuck with you type shit. So it's harder to get through the door. Why do you think people don't want to fuck with each other? You think that's a New York thing? Or you think that's like all over? It's not, everywhere, everywhere people be trying to get up, it be hating everybody's city amongst each other. But in New York, it's like, it be too much. I feel like, could it be hate for no reason? The motherfuckers will be hating niggas they don't know. It be just shit going on the way. It's like, you ain't really gotta be a hater for me. Like you could not like a motherfucker, but you ain't gotta go up on the internet or that shit trash or this shit. Cause then you fucking up our whole image as a city. Cause then like that's that, if you, if one side fucking Wu Cho nigga, if the Wu saying the Cho, ops, fuck them. The Cho saying the Wu, ops, fuck them. Nigga, y'all splitting up. They y'all happening down the city. So it's like now niggas gonna pick and choose instead of it being a whole melting pot as it should be like, we in New York gang. Like this shit shouldn't be like this for me. So you're over the, all the politics and all that. Man, I'm over all that shit, but everybody over that shit. But isn't it hard to do music when you kind of like, the city is kind of forcing you to pick us out. They think it's hard to like, keep it true. I fuck with, yo, but I fuck with blood niggas, crib niggas, I fuck with folk niggas. So I said that to say like, if you your own person for me and you is who you is, you, you could, it is not a problem to, to fuck with all sides and be that nigga like, I'm like, for me niggas want to be that nigga in terms of what other people think. Like, if you is what you say you is, bro, it shouldn't be no real super hard to squash. It shouldn't be no none of that shit. It should always be back to the money. I feel like people, people would, we haven't stuck on time, but they would say like, if I lost a friend, like me and this person will not be cool. And that is the trickle down effect as to why it's so divided. But I feel like so it's, I don't know, it's dicey. You don't know your person. I don't know that shit. I'm not like, I can't advocate because of the every support. I know I feel lose niggas and shit like that. Oh yeah. When you lose people, everybody look at you differently. So if New York could come together one day, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Like I just watched the law, what's nigga? What's the name? OG son, Turk. He was on live. He was going over the South side beef to Miami shit. He was like, look, Miami son, you know, divided everybody can link up and get money. So I'm watching him and he a OG nigga. For me, everybody should know, what's the name trick? Nah, man, that was trick daddy gangsta. It was trick daddy. Trick daddy, okay. For me. So he was talking to like about 808. He was like for me, everybody in Miami, ain't got to be all this beef shit. Niggas can link up and shit. I'm gonna call that guy. Yeah, for me and I, like in South side he was, he was with it like we on money shit. Like the city could have that monster. Like niggas is could be gangsta for me, but pull that shit to the side for the bread. And if it's, if it's death on the table, then lead us to where it's at. But you see, it took a person like trick daddy to make that statement, right? Oh yeah. So who do you think from New York could make that statement? And like we could follow suit. I keep a trail right now. Nobody. Cause ain't nobody in New York. I'm not even saying it's like that. Nobody in New York, like really a leader type shit. Like everybody trying to follow by on something. Like I'm, I'm gonna be so 100. Everybody like trying to follow behind some shit. Cause I'm from New York. I'm from the town for me. I'm from the town, not no more or something like that. I came up looking at Jay-Z and being like, I want to be a Jay-Z. Like ain't nobody that's like right now in that monstay and Jay over there a billion in. So he ain't gonna come back. So it's like, who gonna step up and say, oh boy, let's do this different. Like the old Jesus is damn near promote the beach. I feel like they voice not big enough. Jim Jones. They be trying. I ain't no comment. They be trying. They be in that little studio. They be trying to do little podcast. They be trying. Look, shout out Jim Jones then for me shout out Jim Jones. But I guess that's not enough. I guess that's not enough. As I said, who do you think is big enough? That'll make that. Ain't nobody in the city even that big. That's the, that's the scary part. Like, cause it's not a numbness thing. It's a overall respect thing. Like, So you feel like, I feel like this is a respect thing. Like overall, it's a overall respect thing. It is a respect thing. I feel like it's, a lot of New York artists are respected though. How? If we don't, if we can't respect each other, how we respect every, if an artist gonna sit here and say, oh boy, this other nigga soon is trash. That's the guy that too many of you use. Then we're the respect level. Like it is no respect level. That's what I'm talking about. It's no respect on the craft. Like all that other shit. Like you could, I don't even say this, no dead niggas. All that opposite. Like I should be dead too. Like it's, it's no respect in the city. Like even shit like that. Like and the people that got respect, it's like, it's not, it's from they side. Take this shit. Like it's not fully, it's not fully from both sides. And so it's always going to be that. It's going to be a butt head cause it's always going to be somebody that's trying to be, I'm top boss here. I'm top boss over here. And it's always going to be, kind of like the king of the city whole argument thing. And that shit always come back up. And it could be, that's the thing back in the day was 50 J. It was old type of niggas rapping. Like why gotta be one king of the city? Like why can't it be a nigga that's nice and melodized and that nigga great. Then I'm all fucker. That's nice at balls. And I'm all fucker. That's nice at the freestyle. Why can't it be a mode rush more great niggas? Like, like it's everything. Everybody got a favorite. All this tape shit. Right? Like let's see. You fuck with Biggie. I got a pop. Like everybody can have a mountain. Like it could be a mountain rush more in the city. Like a top five, top 10. Like don't want to be a number one tape shit. Okay. But niggas be hating so, you know. I don't know. You look so great. I try, cause I don't want to come up here and do that. If you watching this and you not from New York, New York great for me. Like New York is great. New York is fantastic. I love the city. This home for me. I love the city. But if you in New York, you know what's up. And you know I'm not lying for me. And niggas get up on this chair and sit up here. Fuck the ops and this shit. But they ain't gonna give you the whole real. That this shit, boy, this shit. New York is not as bad as New York City. Ain't as bad as other places I see that. If you, if you, if you, if you go behind for me. But anyway, on the music tip. All right. What would you say like, what's your beat selection like when like you looking at beats? I ain't gonna hold you. I be doing, I just click the first shit that's fired and actually produces me and sending me beats now. And my email like shout to them niggas. So for me, but like overall, I just go through every beat. I just be typing and random shit. And then I'll just click and start listening. And like, I get a beat 10 seconds. If that shit don't catch me in 10 seconds, I'm off that shit. But if it catch me, I'm swear to God. Like if it catch me in them 10 seconds, like I'm on that shit. And I finished out the whole beat. It probably might take me a half hour. Sometimes I'll be busting out soon. I'll get something shorty. Like I get like eight, nine soon done. It probably like two hours. And that's just sitting there writing like me locked in. I ain't gonna talk like I don't smoke shit in my brain. Eight, nine, 12, 12. That ain't that's not a lot. Like, you know, that's not like you got corvus ball, corvus tape shit. I mean, like it depends to some niggas, right? I don't know. Well, I got one here now. So I ain't gonna be like 12. It might be like four for me. But for me, it's gonna be a done shit. It's gonna be done for me. So who's like some artist that's like a dream collab? Dream collab? Yo, Meek, if you ever watch this bra, I'll shout you out three times. I'm sorry, forget it, forget it, forget it. For real though, cause all these other artists, they be like stuck up. I'll take a boogie tool and I'll take, I'll take Young and Me. I'll take Kodak. See now, I got some hits I'll take. That's what I'm saying. I don't do that. I don't do that. So, are you looking for something to do or you don't mind staying independent or like what is, what's your take on working solo at the moment? I mean, that deal, shit. Crit, I'm not, I'm not against signing a deal. It just gotta be a break. And other than I don't need no 400K deal or that shit. Cause my work ethic and my mindset of what I could do with a deal was like different. I don't need somebody to give me like six figures. So I could be, I could, I'm living good right now for me. So it's just somewhere I took a partnership deal where it's like I could distribute the shit, like get help with it. I had creative control and stuff. So I could, I could put my stuff out at a time minute or a tape or stuff. Like I don't want to have no restricts on my craft anyway. But I would take a deal most definitely. I ain't against no deal. It's gotta be a good deal. Like it's not a good deal. Okay, so what's like, what's something that you want to accomplish on the music tip? Like something like a bucket list. My bucket list? For this shit I'm three takes. But my main goal in music, like before I wrap this shit up, it might be 50 years later, 60 years. It don't matter. I want to turn my like brand, like ball's obese in the team, I'm gonna shout it out every soon. So y'all might, y'all going here today, I'm y'all going here every soon. Like I want to make that into a label for like, I'm an up and coming rapper. So I know the struggle of like trying to book a son to get an interview like this or get the five, super five caramans how I do. So I want to get to a position where it's like, I ain't one of the Jays in the game or not did it because he bad business, but I'm in one of those people to where it's like, nah, but one of them had figures to where it's like, I could put somebody on and I could, it'll make it easier for them. Like they don't got to have like a hundred K subs or like 50 K subs. It's about to me, it's going to be more so about talent because talent going to always make you money. Like talent is going to always make you money. I promise to God, like, so I want to get to that position. That's my overall end goal. Like have my own label. Like I don't even got a song artist. I'll make partnerships with artists and just shot up the same way. The same way I want a label to do with me. I would, I would do as the label, like, just push them. Because everybody, some people just need that push. Not even everybody, like, some people. Yeah, some people just need that push. So you were saying, definitely want to build the empire, like the Jay-Z's and things like that. So like, a lot of those artists, I feel, don't do that because I feel like people be unappreciated to. I would say like the hood, we ain't got a lot of hood is unappreciated to. They be getting stuff, but we are not used the right way. Yeah, for me. So, and I think that's why people like that leave those situations. And I've been seeing that come out recently a lot too. Like, the younger artists do like, they be fucking over their deal. They be doing like immature shit and they do make it hard for the next company. But I don't know, I guess that come down to... But you genuinely want to help people. I genuinely do like from the bottom of my heart, like, I don't got to be the best rapper. Like, I could go out and never see a million views ever. But if I could get to that position, I could probably help somebody get they million views or help somebody get far in the cave. I would love, I don't care if you just sold me, you know for me, like, I'm in the spot where it's like, I'm gonna be in that spot, like, type thing. Like, I want the city to win, son. And somebody got, somebody got to have that energy. Somebody, I don't care if it's one person. So, you might be that leader to step up and... I don't say that because they gonna hate in the comments. I don't say it when somebody who is unknown, they saying that they gonna hate. But for me, I wouldn't even be mad at a type shit. I wouldn't be mad at it. Like, somebody got to do it. And if it ain't me and somebody that's more lit and more better and more famous, y'all come and do this shit. Y'all talk about it. Y'all get it done, tape, like. Okay, okay, okay. So, what's next? What's next? Like, we hear your future plans. We hear... Phew! And go. So what's next right now? 2021. 2021? We going crazy. Like, I ain't going cap. We just dropped this video with Cap O'Mall. All Love Again Show. We got another video coming. I'm not gonna tell y'all the name. I gotta prove it. That's gonna be dropping on my Insta tomorrow or Sunday. Features? Man. Cause I don't know when it's gonna come. I ain't even going... I ain't even... Oh, that's a fact to work. So for me, it might be out. It might be at that preview. It might be out. But features? I'm gonna be quiet on that. I'm gonna be quiet on that. Cause... Nah. Nah, I'm gonna be quiet cause because because for me, shout out Cap O'Mall. But Cap O'm know what I'm saying that. Shout out Cap O'Mall. Be quiet on the future for me. But I might get some features done on the low and like sneaky tape. But over the net, 30 songs is coming for y'all. I got a video. 30 songs? Yeah, 30 songs comes. That's nothing to me. This year, I'll probably have 30 songs coming again. I got another video shoot next Saturday with Affiliated Films. Cause I don't know when it's gonna come out. Oh, shit. But Affiliated Coming Soon. Affiliated Coming Soon, Affiliated Coming Soon. And what else is coming? That's pretty much it. Whole promo run, everything going up this year. Like be getting back on Spotify. Check my Spotify if y'all ain't never check it. Never would have made it up there like 18,000. Drinking Lucy up there at 16,000. Check my video on Cap O'Mall going crazy. Like I got a lot of work coming. Like, oh, y'all got a lot of work coming. I'ma say that. Okay. Can't tell if it's not. Can't tell if it's not. I was out with the finding and with the finding music. Man, find me anywhere. iTunes, Spotify, Tidal, whatever you got. Find me on YouTube, same name. Fnesta Boys. Find me on Instagram. Fnest underscore the underscore boys. For me, find me everywhere. Under that handy. If you got TikTok, you could catch me there. Surely you could catch me over there. Yo, TikTok too? Hell yeah, look. It's promotion, surely look. You all get on every platform I've been learning for me. And just look out for me. I'm coming, I promise y'all. Like, we ain't coming. We ain't on no fuck the opposite. I love the city. Everybody rapping, keep doing y'all thing, keep grinding. Mostly y'all niggas going hard. Mostly y'all niggas, let me y'all doing y'all thing for me, like, let's get money this shit. 2021, let's get money, more money. For me, that's it.