 What's your full name? Atam, Asid, Sadi, Hawas. Where are you from? I'm from Gaza, from a Zaitou neighborhood. And what's your position in Hamas? I'm a soldier in the Hamas military police. So I want you to tell me, what happened from October 7th when you crossed the border with Israel? What happened on that day? Sure. So I crossed the border from the direction of a park called the Return Park in Gaza. There was a breach in the fence, big enough to fit a person. Everybody entered through it, so I entered as well. Then somebody by the name of Ahmad Gouda went and he had a white jeep and he stood there. I got into the car and we drove. We drove a little bit, okay? Before we met Abu Khaled, he told me he had a hand grenade next to him. He told me, take this. I asked him, what's this? He said, just put it in your pocket. So I put the hand grenade in my pocket and it stayed there later. We got to the gate of the village, the kibbutz. The gate was closed. It was a yellow iron gate. We jumped over the gate and we entered the kibbutz. So as soon as we entered, there were these little shocks there with hay. Everyone went into the area, the farmer's rooms. I don't know exactly what they were. Ahmad and one of the two that came, the ones I told you I didn't know at the beginning, they took someone and left with him. This is a person that they kidnapped. Yes, they took him. He had a head injury, the guy they kidnapped. Yeah, the first one that they took back to Gaza. Who's we? So it was me, Ahmad, and there was one guy I didn't know as well as the two Israelis we kidnapped. We continued until the border with Gaza and there was an ambulance there. Ahmad stopped and he took the two kidnappings out. What ambulance? A Hyundai. We dropped off the kidnapped guys and I got into the ambulance and the ambulance was a driver. The Hebron driver was the second one. I got in with Abu Khaled and the guy who covered his face of the soldier, the kidnap. He covered his head and we got into the ambulance. The kidnappings were Thai foreign workers. When we were in the ambulance, Abu Khaled asked him, what's your name? But he didn't understand what he was asking him. After he showed him like this, where are you from? And he kind of said, Thailand. So we understand that they were both Thai because they looked the same and it was, you know, we could tell they were foreign workers and not Jewish Israelis. What's your full name? Ismail Ashraf Ali Hawass. And where are you from? I'm from the Zaitou neighborhood in Gaza. And what's your position in Hamas? I was also the military police, public relations. So tell me what happened in the afternoon, from the morning or the afternoon? From the afternoon. In the afternoon, Ahmad Abu Jaba called me. He told me, will you come with us eastward towards the border with Israel? I said, all right, they went with them. How did you go? We took the Jeep from work. We went and we stopped at Jakar. Jubal ibn An went by on his motorcycle and rode on the Jakar way that's a road in Gaza from a different direction. He told us there's a soldier in this ambulance. Follow them. So we follow them. Someone, an Israeli kidnapped soldier. Where did the ambulance drive? Abu Khaled told them to drive to Ashifa, Ashifa Hospital. Yes, correct. The first one is walking himself. They took him in walking. They took him into the elevator and the second one was placed on a gurney. We went up the second elevator to the first floor and we saw them still standing there. The second one, they took into a room. There was also one from the Al-Qasam Brigade inside. He was armed. Yes, an armed fighter. Outside there were two from the Al-Qasam Brigade. Two inside, not for me, from Al-Qasam and two outside. They went in with those who brought them and they took the man who could walk. Al-Qasam is Hamas's military wing. We left the gate of the building through the west. There was a Jeep there. I got in the right side and the back was the guy, was the kidnapped guy and the other guy as well, the two kidnappers. After 10 minutes, Adam Abu Khaled and Imad Johar returned. They came back. They wrapped his head and they put a mask on so he couldn't be recognized. The wounded guy, he had a head injury. I heard from him just one word. Thailand. Thailand, Thailand. And then he was quiet. They finished with the second kidnapper. We took him and went down with him. The same way as we did with the first one.