 Kok shuts are quite interesting and I see them very avant and timely in the situation of Uganda, given that land and land tenure issues have an impact in the way we implement research to impact on livelihoods. In my role as the Director of Research in Forestry, we generate and disseminate appropriate technologies, geared at help communities, plant trees for their benefit, together forest products and services that they deserve from this trees. In Uganda for example over ninety percent of the households use biomass energy for the fewa And in this case given the limited land the growing population we have seen the trend in forest destruction. So we come in with technologies that encourage people to plant on their farms to get the products and services that they need. So developing technologies for example in here areas Soil erosion is pro-un, we have technologies that help in controlling soil erosion. Woodloads are being encouraged in areas where people have relied on their remaining forests for the fewer wood and this has caused more depression, more degradation. So, to me these findings that look at policies are looking at land tenure reforms is very timely And if thoroughly implemented, we'll go a long way in helping out in restoration forestry, degradation, cubbing and getting people to get the products and services they need from trees.