 Off and I'll tell you what you left In the Jewish world the cotton the Western wall in Jerusalem Israel opinions But today for news is ongoing coverage of Israel at war I'm Ariel Levin Rockman as Israeli forces gain ground in the south the IDF shows the evidence of Hamas's Militarizing hospitals across Gaza in a clear violation of all rules of war IDF international spokesman Jonathan Conrique's Presented Hamas's weapons military equipment and intelligence technology which IDF soldiers found in more than 18 hours of searching Shefa hospital since early in the morning yesterday this after revealing the vast case of explosives Advanced weapons and hostage holding cells found at Rantisi Hospital just a few days earlier But at Shefa no senior Hamas officials were found The Israel Defense Forces announces that two more soldiers were killed fighting on Wednesday in the northern Gaza Strip Bringing the death toll in the ground offensive against Hamas to 50 Captain Asaf Mastar a platoon commander of the 401st Brigades 601 engineering as well as captain Kfiritz Hock Franco 22 years old platoon commander of the 401st Brigades 52nd battalion The Biden administration has continued to reject calls for a ceasefire While pushing for more short-term humanitarian causes Biden said that this war will only end once Hamas is made powerless In a private session on Wednesday, Biden asked Chinese Communist Leaderization Ping to use his influence to try to calm global tensions Particularly to try to pressure Iran not to widen the conflict between Israel and Palestinian terror group Hamas With regard to When is this going to stop? I think it's going to stop when the when Hamas and no longer maintains the capacity to murder and abuse and and just do a horrific things to the Israelis and They're in and they still think that at least as of this morning They still thought they could Hamas said they plan on doing the same thing again with what they did what they did on the Senate They're going to win. They want to slaughter Israelis. They want to do it again. They've said it out loud They're not kidding about it They're not backing off And so I just asked rhetorical questions. I wonder what we would do If that were the case five six times a day I'm working on how I can be helpful and getting the hostages released and have a period of time Where there's a pause long enough to let that happen We turn to the south where our correspondent Pierre Kloschenler is standing by just outside of steroids Pierre there's been some dramatic developments on the ground in Gaza over the past few days walk us through what the latest in the situation is Well, I'm going to show you what's going on just on the northern sector of the Gaza Strip This is the only sector that we have a vantage point on and the pounding of terror targets is going on Relentlessly Dean Byron Boyman is going to walk you through The smoke bellowing over terror targets in the vicinity of bet Hanun betlahia And jubalia a refugee camp which you can maybe see the extreme north Outskirts of it now regarding she far hospital she far. He's still being Scanned by the Israeli army They're calming the area if yesterday the focus was on the Western buildings of the hospital complex and this is a real hospital complex with sprawling Buildings over 10 buildings and annexes on 22 acres And now the the emphasis is on the southern part of that hospital complex What we know is that the tunnel shafts or the basement shafts Inside the hospital have been blocked with concrete by Hamas and Thus the army has brought In addition of tanks to guard the area has brought bulldozers in order to try and open those shafts and Try to to reach the basement and possibly the interlacing of underground tunnels Underneath the hospital. Well, thank you very much for the update We'll be back with you over the course of the day Pierre as the situation in Gaza changes until then though We are going to be joined for further analysis by Kobe Michael senior research fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies and Former Deputy Director General of the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs. Thank you very much Kobe for being with us I want to jump into one of the last things that a reporter mentioned that being the battle for the hospital Israel has made much a do over the past few weeks about Hamas's command centers underneath Shifa But the actual sweep of the hospital didn't actually show as much as people had been expecting Ultimately, is this damaging Israel's credibility? Good morning No on the contrary First of all, we have to be to come to be patient and to understand that we need time in order to accumulate the evidence there As your correspondent has just said we are talking about a huge compound Actually, this is the biggest hospital in the Gaza stream And it is a big a very big hospital in any scale not only in the scale of Gaza and We know for sure and we we found even yesterday We know for sure that Underneath the hospital. There is a huge compound of Hamas. We know that Hamas also knew that we know about it and they try to Comouflage things, but I assume that Today tomorrow With the work of the bulldozers things will be Uncovered and There will be no problem to bring the evidence and by the way we found evidence in other hospitals as well In Rantisi Hospital and we haven't reached yet to the other hospitals But I'm sure that even in this hospital All the evidence will be shown eventually and I want to actually show to our viewers What the evidence is so let's show Jonathan Conor like is showing off just what was found over there at Shefa first We're now as you can see in an MRI room. I Don't know when this was used the last time I don't know when it was used the last time, but it is definitely an MRI machine And if you follow me behind the MRI machine, I'll show you what our troops exposed just minutes ago In military terms, this is a grab bag Grab and go of a Hamas combatant And if you zoom in and we get some light over here what you will be able to see are is military equipment There is a an AK-47 there are cartridges ammo There are grenades in here, of course uniformed and all of that this was hidden Very conveniently Secretly behind the MRI machine on the other side We found a backpack with what appears to be very important intelligence including a laptop And we're going to return to you Co because we just saw the evidence presented there But there's another flip side of this Israel has spent weeks now talking about Shefa talking about finally neutralizing Hamas and Shiva that gives Hamas plenty of time to evacuate the area and Evacuate any hostages from the area so they can't be caught. Is this ultimately a military blunder for the sake of public relations wins? Israel pays a price because it adheres the international law of war and Israel pays a price because it makes it's supreme efforts in order to avoid from collateral damage and and Civilian causalities we know that we are paying a price Israeli soldiers were killed when we opened humanitarian corridors and secured them What we saw now in the last in the last video footage is Is not is not the compound itself the compound itself is underneath the hospital in the tunnels and Now we are working on that and I assume that in a day or two We will understand what actually was there underneath the hospital This is just an example how the hospital itself was used as For military purposes, okay, and this is an example only of the one of the MRI rooms Treatment rooms, but we have to be patient and I think that there is no doubt about the very cynical use of Hamas of Civilian facilities and we don't have to to apologize or we don't have to To work too hard in order to to prove who is the bad guy in the neighborhood? It is not Israel Okay, everybody knows or everybody should know who is the bad guy here? Absolutely unfortunate the UN seems to have some trouble answering That's one Kobe stay with us on the line because we are going to discuss this a little bit more at length That's because the UN Security Council on Wednesday called for urgent and extended humanitarian pauses in fighting between Israel and Hamas terrorist in Gaza demanding multiple days to allow aid access and also included a call for the immediate and Unconditional release of all hostages held by Hamas and other terror groups the United States Russia and Britain who are council veto Powers abstain from Wednesday's vote on the resolution drafted by Malta the remaining 12 members voted in favor now Russia Abstain because there was no call for an immediate ceasefire US ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas Greenfeld said the Biden administration principally supports It was in the draft but could not support it due to what went unmentioned and that's because the UN does not actually Condemned Hamas's October 7th massacres and crimes against humanity which included mass-scale torture and rape The Security Council should have called for a ceasefire a long time ago It should have called for a ceasefire now It should have heeded the call by the UN and every humanitarian Organization on earth calling for a humanitarian ceasefire including the Secretary General of the United Nations It should have been convinced that there is no military solution Especially one that relies on the commission of atrocities and it should have advanced Political ones as much as we all wish to believe that this resolution and this council could have an impact on genocidal terrorists The situation on the ground proves otherwise The reality is that Israel has no choice but to continue with our mission to obliterate Hamas's capabilities and bring our hostages home Should come us choose to lay down their arms turn themselves in and hand over the hostages unscathed this war would end immediately Sadly, this is not Hamas's modus operandi And joining this discussion now is our senior correspondent Owen Ultraman also on the line Oh, and it's good to have you with us I want to jump further into what we're seeing here at the UN and with the Biden administration Certainly the United States supports a humanitarian pause Not quite the same thing as a ceasefire though as Biden himself said But many people say that one swiftly becomes the other if it extends too long Yeah, I mean, obviously that's the potential concern in Israel as we continue to potentially our RELs, you know go toward a hostage deal that would steam to by all counts Include some kind of humanitarian pause with that concern about what would happen on the other side of that How would the military operation with the war be able to be conducted to be prosecuted on the other side as for the Security Council? Resolution look there aren't any real surprises here, right? The Biden administration has been on record for a week or more calling explicitly for humanitarian pauses So it's not at all surprising to see the US abstain on a resolution like this and not veto it And it's not a disastrous resolution for Israel and of course in addition to the humanitarian pauses What's called for there is not a deal to return the hostages not a return of hostages in exchange for a pause Not a return of hostages in exchange for prisoners who committed acts of terrorism in Israeli jail What's in that resolution is the unconditional release of the hostages and the Russians and the Chinese did not veto it Did not veto it so again again the hostage issue is leads Israeli diplomacy is the place where Israel has the most legitimacy And it's getting the big the biggest achievements diplomatically and of course we can all easily understand why but again The fact that the UN Security Council is called for the unconditional release of the hostages is I think another important marker Even if on the issue of humanitarian pauses look the Israeli foreign ministry has come out and said There's no place for humanitarian pauses if they're in a sense unilateral right? No place for those pauses as long as the hostages continue to be held But not a disastrous resolution from Israel's perspective and again no surprises again The vive administration has been on record supporting these positions Of course if you look a little bit deeper and you look at the rhetoric coming from the russians, right? Or for that matter the rhetoric coming from the Maltese who put this resolution forward Obviously the tone is very very different and again Malta is a member state of the european union So we continue to see that divide within you and another very very harsh voice Added to the camp that is critical of israel and in some cases verges on to being hostile Now it's down the line with us for a bit oan because we're going to be returning to both you and kobe in a brief moment But first we do have to turn our eye to the northern border as well our correspondent zack and there's just standing by there zack Thank you for being with us. Give us a quick overview about the most recent developments in the war in the north far Currently it is quiet this morning But yesterday was another active day on the northern front with more atg fire anti tank guided missile fire from hezbollah at israeli Points of interest the israelis have said that they have fired back on hezbollah outposts several hezbollah outposts And these origin points of fire that they've eliminated Some of the earlier points that hezbollah used to fire on their positions now those ATGs are designed for armor piercing rounds for tanks, but they can also target personnel and Buildings and equipment and that's what hezbollah said they did they claim to have fired on barracks and outposts israeli outposts with these rockets attempting to Create mass casualty or or inflict a great amount of damage against israeli positions near Some military operation spaces the israeli say they were able to thwart that attack and they've already This morning that that was last night. This morning has been relatively quiet and we're just waiting around and sitting Expecting to hear more of the same which just about every afternoon in the last week has been the same story The hezbollah fires these atgs israel responds and then everyone goes back to sleep Now zach one of the things that everyone's been wondering for more than a month now Is whether or not hezbollah is going to commit fully to the war We just saw a meeting between hamas and iran where iran told hamas that they acted without telling them and they're more or less On their own they're not going to commit themselves to the war does that also apply to hezbollah's position It at least it for now it seems that that could be applicable to hezbollah especially considering that the number of fighters and really the the equipment the size of equipment some of The independent estimates and even what the united states has come out and said Is quite sizable the forces that they have at their disposal and the equipment that they have supplied by iran We've seen some of the equipment employed already with the iranian supplied drones flying into israeli territory and being intercepted Now hezbollah i've spoken to one source who said that as long as what continues the campaign continues In gaza that hezbollah will of course want to stay involved or continue to do what they're doing now But it does seem to be at a scale that's inflicting Not so much maximum damage, but maximum distraction providing As much as you possibly can on the northern front without enveloping yourself in a full scale conflict But doing enough to keep idf forces at the border Requiring there to be more tanks more artillery keeping this at a kind of The burner is on with the stove, but not on full blast Mozak we're going to be back to you if that situation changes up there until then stay safe on the north We are going to return to kobe michael on this same question actually Because we did hear that warning or at least that message from iran to hamas saying that well you're on your own I want to ask what is intelligence saying about hezbollah's position on that as well because That has been since the very beginning the threat of a much bigger front opening I don't think that there is a hezbollah position. Okay, there is an iranian position Hezbollah is an iranian proxy and hezbollah is not fully independent with regard To to major military decisions That are made we saw what happened in the 2006 july 2006 when Hezbollah decided to abduct the israeli soldier and what happened After and therefore we have to talk about the iranian position And we don't have to be too impressed from things that are published by the iranians because we are talking about a very skillful, I would say Psychological player and this is a part of the informational war and At the end of the day, at least for me, I have no doubt that the iranians are deeply involved in this attack Even if they didn't know about the exact day, okay, and maybe they are even I would say angry at hamas because hamas surprised them with regard to the timing But there is no doubt that iran is deeply involved in the planning in the training in the intelligence in the technology In the weapons in the financing everything And this is part of the broader iranian strategy Where hezbollah hamas and all the other proxies are part of the big grand strategic plan of them And I will not I will not be too too impressive from things that we hear here and there from Iranian sources Definitely, and this is what I want to bring Owen back into the discussion as well because the question is Is it really just iran's call to make here? We saw a biden pressuring china to pressure iran Who's one of their critical allies in the region to stay out of this one? Yeah, I would put less weight obviously the iranians need the chinese right there the consumer of the oil and the oil is the Backbone of the economy So it's the engine that gets the car moving if you will but that's it I think that's the lesser point of leverage on iran I think the more meaningful thing the united states has done of course is the deterrence right So early on in the process right at the outset bringing two aircraft carrier strike groups Those famous speeches with president biden the opening week with that one word right don't And then bringing more assets to the region continuing to shoot down or help shoot down Missiles and drones fired from yemen by the hutis So I think that involvement by the united states is a lot more meaningful on iran Then some pressure from the chinese who I think are not going to be all that interested in getting Involved beyond the issue of the of rhetoric and public diplomacy In the conflict here But look, I do think that a strategy of at least trying to drive a wedge Between iran and hezbollah because their interests are different right over the iranian regime has its set of interests And hezbollah of course gets money from iran paid on cash if you will but will they actually pay back on credit Especially where when hezbollah also has a very important allegiance to its own Constituency right the shia community the shia sector in south lebanon And we've heard from his fellow leaders time and again On the record and through reports that they actually care about this constituency to a certain degree much more So we would seem then hamas cares about the civilians of gaza Of course hamas doesn't care about the civilians of gaza at all plus in israel and the hamas is about leadership seem to feel a sense of Responsibility towards their public again partly because that public is not in its own gaza strip If you will but it's part of a larger lebanese state in which it's a not a majority It's only a plurality And in which the groups have to live together and that those relationships have to be managed So it's much more complicated. I think it israeli strategy or an israeli american strategy israeli american french strategy Of trying to draw that to draw to draw that wedge and to deepen that wedge I think is a terrific idea Maybe those are the kinds of moves that prime minister death yow was referring to when he talks about a potential diplomatic arrangement in the north Instead of or in addition to some kind of military operation. Well, thank you very much oan for understanding the region in general I want to turn back to kobie now for just some of the last discussions as we return to look at gaza once again Kobie we're now hearing that for the first time leaflets evacuation leaflets have been dropped on southern parts of gaza as well Does this mean that israel's operation in north gaza is drawing to its conclusion and now needs to expand Not yet. I think that we have At least Another week of intensive work there in the northern parts But we already began to work in the Central and the southern parts of the gaza street and we will have to continue working there But I think that the organizing idea or rationale of collapsing the most significant A Substantial centers of gravity of hamas in the north Will ease on the idea to collapse the other centers of gravity of hamas in the center and in the south I think that this is the organizing rationale, but we We are continuing To do the the job the work in the in the center in the south as well now We are we began working on nusrat area Annuanness area both of them are located south of wadi gaza But this is the center of the gaza street But we worked also in raffa area even two weeks ago or something like that Not in a very intensive manner, but we will have to reach there as well But it will take time But in the north as far as things are going we've seen impressive images of hamas's parliament being destroyed Of israeli soldiers standing in the central sanctums of hamas's leaders But israel hasn't actually gotten any of those high ranking leaders yet They haven't found anything as far as the hostages go. Have there been any significant victories in the north? Of course, maybe maybe the terminology of victory is not the the most accurate one We are talking about about achievements Very significant achievements and the accumulation of the achievements at the end of the day We'll pave the way towards the Towards the victory or towards the military winning because victory is more a political term where Winning is more a military term but I think that As I as I said before We have to understand what is eventually the objectives of the war. Okay, and the objectives of the war is Of course the releasing of the of the hostages and the The collapse of hamas military and governmental systems It doesn't mean that we have to reach to the last Terrorist or to the last rpg It means that we have to be capable to paralyze Hamas militarily and governmentally in a way that hamas will not be able To become again a military threat or a ruling power in the gaza street These are the objectives of the war and we are Doing the job in the most complicated urban Combat zone in the world since ever and we have to be patient to stop counting the days to understand That it will take time and I would like to remind our viewers. Okay, that the second in tifada in the beginning of The beginning of september 2000 lasted five years And now we are talking about five weeks About the much more complicated aim in the in the combat zone So let's be patient and stop counting the day every day Absolutely instead of counting the days, I guess we will be counting the accomplishments going forward and there have been some significant ones But still a lot of work to do kobi Thank you very much for all the analysis and for understanding of the situation on the ground and beyond for everyone else Though we are out of time for this broadcast, but we will be back at the top of the next hour So we'll see you again very soon until then. Thanks for watching Is in a state of war families completely Done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well Informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en israel news 24 únicamente en i-24 news Until we even welcome to i-24 news's ongoing coverage of israel at war I'm ariel levin walkman as israeli forces gain ground in the south the idf shows the evidence of hamasa's Militarizing hospitals across gaza in a clear violation of all rules of war Idf international spokesman jonathan kanrikas presented hamasa's weapons military equipment and intelligence technology Which idf soldiers found in more than 18 hours of searching shefa hospital since early in the morning yesterday This after revealing the vast case of explosives advanced weapons and hostage holding cells found at rentisi hospital Just a few days earlier, but at shefa no senior hamasa officials were found The israel defense forces announces that two more soldiers were killed fighting on wednesday in the northern gaza strip Bringing the death toll in the ground offensive against hamasa to 50 Captain asaf master a platoon commander of the 401 first brigades 601 engineering as well as captain kfir Itzhak franko 22 years old platoon commander of the 401 first brigades 52nd battalion The biden administration has continued to reject calls for a ceasefire While pushing for more short term humanitarian pauses biden said that this war will only end once hamasa is made powerless In a private session on wednesday biden asked chinese communistization ping to use his influence to try to calm global tensions Particularly to try to pressure iran not to widen the conflict between israel and palestinian terror group hamasa with regard to When is this going to stop? I think it's going to stop when the When hamasa no longer maintains the capacity to murder and abuse and Just do a horrific things to the israelis And they're and and they still think at least as of this morning They still thought they could hamasa said they plan on doing the same thing again with what they did what they did in the senate They're going to go in they want to slaughter israelis They want to do it again. They've said it out loud. They're not kidding about it. They're not backing off And so I just asked a rhetorical question. I wonder what we would do If that were the case five six times a day I'm working on how I can be helpful in getting the hostages released And have a period of time where there's a pause long enough to let that happen We turn to the south where our correspondent p.r. Kloschenler is standing by just outside of sterot p.r. There's been some dramatic developments on the ground in gaza over the past few days Walk us through what the latest in the situation is Well, I'm going to show you what's going on just on the northern sector of the gaza street This is the only sector that we have a vantage point on and the pounding Of terror targets is going on relentlessly dean barn boyman is going to walk you through The smoke billowing over terror targets in the vicinity of bet hanon betlahia And jibalia a refugee camp which you can maybe see the extreme north Uh Outskirts of it now regarding shifa hospital shifa is still being Scanned by the israeli army Uh, they're calming the area if yesterday the focus was on the western buildings of the hospital complex And this is a real hospital complex with sprawling Buildings over 10 buildings and annexes on 22 acres And now the the emphasis is on the southern part of that hospital complex What we know is that the tunnel shafts or the basement shafts Inside the hospital have been blocked with concrete by hamas and Thus the army has brought In addition of tanks to guard the area has brought bulldozers In order to try and open those shafts and try to to reach the basement And possibly the interlacing of underground tunnels Underneath the hospital Well, thank you very much for the update We'll be back with you over the course of the day pier as the situation in gaza changes Until then though, we are going to be joined for further analysis by kobe michael senior research fellow at the institute for national security Studies and former deputy jecker director general of the israeli ministry of strategic affairs. Thank you very much kobe for being with us I want to jump into one of the last things that our reporter mentioned that being the battle for the hospital Israel has made much a do over the past few weeks about hamas's command centers underneath shifa But the actual sweep of the hospital didn't actually show as much as people had been expecting Ultimately, is this damaging israel's credibility? Good morning No On the contrary, uh, first of all, we have to be to to be patient and to understand that we need time in order to accumulate the the evidence there Yeah As your correspondent has just said we are talking about a huge compound Actually, this is the biggest hospital In the gaza stream And it is a big a very big hospital in any scale not only in the scale of gaza and We know for sure and we we found even yesterday We know for sure that Underneath the hospital. There is a huge compound of hamas. We know that hamas also knew that we know about it and they try to Comouflage things But I assume that today tomorrow With the work of the bulldozers things will be uh Uncovered and There will be no problem to bring the evidence and by the way, we found evidence in other hospitals as well Uh in randisi hospital and we haven't reached yet to the other hospitals But I'm sure that even in this hospital All the evidence Will be shown eventually and I want to actually show to our viewers what the evidence is So let's show uh, jonathan kanraka is showing off just what was found over there at shifa first We're now as you can see in an MRI room I don't know when this was used the last time I don't know when it was used the last time, but it is definitely an MRI machine And if you follow me behind the MRI machine, I'll show you what our troops exposed just minutes ago In military terms, this is a grab bag grab and go of a hamas combatant And if you zoom in and we get some light over here What you will be able to see are is military equipment. There is a an ak47 There are cartridges ammo There are grenades in here, of course uniformed and all of that this was hidden Very conveniently secretly behind the MRI machine on the other side We found a backpack with what appears to be very important intelligence including a laptop And we're going to return to you co because we just saw the evidence presented there But there's another flip side of this israel has spent weeks now talking about shifa talking about finally neutralizing hamas and shiva that gives hamas plenty of time to evacuate the area and Evacuate any hostages from the area so they can't be caught. Is this ultimately a military blunder for the sake of public relations wins? Israel pays a price because it adheres the international law of war and israel pays a price because it makes its supreme efforts in order to avoid from collateral damage and And the civilian casualties. We know that we are paying a price Israeli soldiers were killed when we opened humanitarian corridors and secured them What we saw now in the last in the last video footage is Is not Is not the compound itself the compound itself is underneath the hospital in the tunnels And now we are working on that and I assume that in a day or two We will understand what actually was there underneath the hospital. This is just an example How the hospital itself was used as For military purposes, okay, and this is an example only of the one of the mri rooms Treatment rooms, but we have to be patient and I think that there is no doubt about the very cynical use of hamas of Of civilian facilities and we don't have to To apologize or we don't have to To work too hard in order to to to prove who is the bad guy in the neighborhood. It's not israel Okay, everybody knows or everybody should know who is the bad guy here Absolutely unfortunate the un seems to have some trouble answering That's one kobe stay with us on the line because we are going to discuss this a little bit more at length That's because the un security council on wednesday called for urgent and extended humanitarian pauses in fighting between israel and hamas Terrorist in gaza demanding multiple days to allow aid access and also included a call for the immediate and Unconditional release of all hostages held by hamas and other terror groups the united states russia and britain who are council veto powers Abstain from wednesday's vote on the resolution drafted by malta the remaining 12 members voted in favor now russia Abstain because there was no call for an immediate ceasefire US ambassador to the un linda thomas greenfield said the biden administration principally Supports what was in the draft but could not support it due to what went unmentioned And that's because the un does not actually condemn hamas's october 7th massacres and crimes against humanity Which included mass scale torture and rape The security council should have called for a ceasefire a long time ago It should have called for a ceasefire now It should have heeded the call by the un and every humanitarian organization on earth Calling for a humanitarian ceasefire Including the secretary general of the united nations It should have been convinced that there is no military solution especially one That relies on the commission of atrocities And it should have advanced political ones As much as we all wish to believe that this resolution and this council could have an impact on genocidal terrorists The situation on the ground proves otherwise The reality is that israel has no choice but to continue with our mission to obliterate hamas's capabilities And bring our hostages home Should hamas choose to lay down their arms turn themselves in and hand over the hostages unscathed This war would end immediately Sadly, this is not hamas's modest operandi And joining this discussion now is our senior correspondent oan ultraman also on the line Oh, and it's good to have you with us I want to jump further into what we're seeing here at the un and with the biden administration Certainly the united states supports a humanitarian pause Not quite the same thing as a ceasefire though as biden himself said But many people say that one swiftly becomes the other if it extends too long Yeah, I mean obviously that's the potential concern in israel as we continue to potentially Our r.l. As you know go toward a hostage deal that would steam to by all counts Include some kind of humanitarian pause with that concern about what would happen on the other side of that How would the military operation with the war be able to be Conducted to be prosecuted on the other side as for the security council resolution look there aren't any real surprises here Right the biden administration has been on record for a week or more calling explicitly for humanitarian pauses So it's not at all surprising to see the us abstain on a resolution like this and not veto it And it's not a disastrous resolution for israel and of course in addition to the humanitarian pauses What's called for there is not a deal to return the hostages Not a return of hostages in exchange for a pause not a return of hostages in exchange for prisoners who committed acts of terrorism in israeli jail What's in that resolution is the unconditional release of the hostages and the russians and the chinese did not veto it Did not veto it so again again the hostage issue is leads israeli diplomacy is the place where israeli is the most legitimacy And it's getting the big the biggest achievements diplomatically and of course we can all easily understand why But again the fact that the u.n. Security council is called for the unconditional release of the hostages Is I think another important marker even if on the issue of humanitarian pauses look the israeli foreign ministries come out and said There's no place for humanitarian pauses if they're in a sense unilateral right no place for those pauses as long as the hostages continue to be held But not a disastrous resolution from israel's perspective and again no surprises again The biden administration has been on record supporting these positions Of course if you look a little bit deeper and you look at the rhetoric coming from the russians right or for that matter The rhetoric coming from the maltese who put this resolution forward Obviously the tone is very very different and again malta is a member state of the european union So we continue to see that divide within the u and another very very harsh voice Added to the camp that is critical of israel and in some cases verges on to being hostile Yeah, it's down the line with us for a bit oan because we're going to be returning to both you and kobe in a brief moment But first we do have to turn our eye to the northern border as well Our correspondent zack and there's just standing by there zack. Thank you for being with us Give us a quick overview of what the most recent developments in the war in the north are Currently it is quiet this morning But yesterday was another active day on the northern front with more atg fire the anti tank guided missile fire from hezbollah at israeli points of interest the Israelis have said that they have fired back on hezbollah outpost several hezbollah outposts And these origin points of fire that they've eliminated Some of the earlier points that the hezbollah used to fire on their positions now those ATGs are designed for armor piercing rounds for tanks, but they can also target personnel and Buildings and equipment and that's what hezbollah said they did they claim to have fired on barracks and Outposts is really outposts with these rockets attempting to Create mass casualty or or inflict a great amount of damage against israeli positions near Some military operations bases the israeli say they were able to thwart that attack and they've already responded this morning That was last night. This morning has been relatively quiet and we're just waiting around and sitting Expecting to hear more of the same which just about every afternoon in the last week has been the same story The hezbollah fires these ATGs israel responds and then everyone goes back to sleep Now zack one of the things that everyone's been wondering for more than a month now is whether or not hezbollah is going to commit fully to the war We just saw a meeting between hamas in iran where iran told hamas that they acted without telling them and they're more or less On their own they're not going to commit themselves to the war does that also apply to hezbollah's position It that at least it for now it seems that that could be applicable to hezbollah Especially considering that the number of fighters and really the the equipment the size of equipment some of the Independent estimates and even what the united states has come out and said is quite sizable The forces that they have at their disposal and the equipment that they have supplied by iran We've seen some of the equipment employed already with the iranian supply drones flying into israeli territory and being intercepted now Hezbollah i've spoken to one source who said that as long as what continues the campaign continues In gaza the hezbollah will of course want to stay involved or continue to do what they're doing now But it does seem to Be at a scale that's inflicting not so much maximum damage But maximum distraction providing as much as you possibly can on the northern front without Developing yourself in a full-scale conflict, but doing enough to keep idf forces at the border Requiring there to be more tanks more artillery keeping this at a kind of The burner is on with the stove, but not on full blast Well zack, we're going to be back to you if that situation changes up there until then stay safe on the north We are going to return to kobie michael on this same question actually because we did hear that Warning or at least that message from iran to hamas saying that well, you're on your own I want to ask what is intelligence saying about hezbollah's position on that as well because that has been since the very beginning The threat of a much bigger front opening I don't think that there is a hezbollah position. Okay, there is an iranian position Hezbollah is an iranian proxy and hezbollah is not fully independent with regard To to major military decisions That are made we saw what happened in 2006 july 2006 when Hezbollah decided to abduct the israeli soldier and what happened After and therefore we have to talk about the iranian position And we don't have to be too impressed from things that are published By the iranians because we are talking about a very skillful, I would say psychological player This is a part of the informational war and At the end of the day At least for me, I have no doubt the the iranians are deeply involved In this attack and even if they didn't know about the exact day Okay, and maybe they are even I would say angry at hamas because hamas surprised them with regard to the timing But there is no doubt that iran is deeply involved in the planning in the training in the intelligence in the technology In the weapons in the financing everything and this is part of the broader iranian strategy Where hezbollah hamas and all the other proxies are part of the big grand strategic plan of them And I will not I will not be too too impressive from things that we hear here and there from iranian sources Definitely, and this is what I want to bring oan back into the discussion as well because the question is Is it really just iran's call to make here? We saw a biden pressuring china to pressure iran who's one of their critical allies in the region to stay out of this one Yeah, I would put less weight obviously the iranians need the chinese right there the consumer of the oil and the oil is the backbone of the economy So it's the engine that gets the car moving if you will But that said I think that's the lesser point of leverage on iran I think the more meaningful thing the united states has done of course is the deterrence right So early on in the process right at the outset bringing two aircraft carrier strike groups Those famous speeches with president biden the opening week with that one word right don't and then bringing more assets to the region Continuing to shoot down or help shoot down Missiles and drones fired from yemen by the hooties So I think that involvement by the united states is a lot more meaningful on iran Then some pressure from the chinese who I think are not going to be all that interested in getting Involved beyond the issue of the of rhetoric and public diplomacy in the conflict here But look I do think that a strategy of at least trying to drive a wedge Between iran and hisbulla because their interests are different right over the iranian regime has its set of interests And hisbulla of course gets money from iran paid on cash if you will but will they actually pay back on credit? Especially where when hisbulla also has a very important allegiance to its own constituency right the shia community the shia sector in south lebanon And we've heard from hisbulla leaders time and again On the record and through reports that they actually care about this constituency to a certain degree much more So it would seem then hamas cares about the civilians of god's and of course Hamas doesn't care about the civilians of god's at all plus an israel and the hamas is about leadership seem to feel a sense of Responsibility towards their public again partly because that public is not in its own gaza strip if you will But it's part of a larger lebanese state In which it's a not a majority It's only a plurality and in which the groups have to live together and that those relationships have to be managed So it's much more complicated I think it israeli strategy or an israeli american strategy or israeli american french strategy Of trying to draw that to draw to draw that wedge and to deepen that wedge I think is a terrific idea Maybe those are the kinds of moves that prime minister death yowl was referring to when he talks about a potential diplomatic arrangement in the north Instead of or in addition to some kind of military operation Well, thank you very much owen for understanding the region in general I want to turn back to kobie now for just some of the last discussions as we return to look at gaza once again Kobie we're now hearing that for the first time leaflets evacuation leaflets have been dropped on southern parts of gaza as well Does this mean that israel's operation in north gaza is drawing to its conclusion and now needs to expand Um Not yet. I think that we have um at least Another week of intensive work there in the northern parts But we already began to work in the central and the southern parts of the gaza street And we will have to continue working there But I think that um the organizing idea or rationale of collapsing the most significant Substantial centers of gravity of hamas in the north Will ease on the idea to collapse the other centers of gravity of hamas in the center and in the south I think that this is the organizing rationale, but we uh, we are continuing To do the the job the work in the in the center in the south as well And now we are we began working on muserate Area An illness area both of them are located south of wadi gaza But this is the center of the gaza street But we worked also in rafa area even two weeks ago or something like that Not in a very intensive manner, but we will have to reach there as well But it will take time But in the north as far as things are going we've seen impressive images of uh, hamas's parliament being destroyed Of israeli soldiers standing in the central sanctums of hamas's leaders But israel hasn't actually gotten any of those high ranking leaders yet They haven't found anything as far as the hostages go. Have there been any significant victories in the north? Of course, maybe maybe the terminology of victory is not the the most accurate one We are talking about About achievements Very significant achievements and the accumulation of the achievements at the end of the day We'll pave the way towards the Towards the victory. Okay, or towards the military winning because victory is more a political term where we were Winning is more a military term but uh, I think that As I as I said before We have to understand what is eventually the objectives of the war. Okay, and the objectives of the war is Of course the releasing of the of the hostages and then the the collapse of hamas military and governmental Systems, it doesn't mean that we have to reach to the last Terrorist or to the last rpg It means that we have to be capable to paralyze Hamas militarily and governmentally in a way that hamas will not be able To become a gain a military threat or a ruling power in the gaza street These are the objectives of the war and we are Doing the job in the most complicated urban Combat zone in the world since ever and we have to be patient to stop counting the days to understand That it will take time and I would like to remind our viewers. Okay, that the second intifada in the beginning of The beginning of september 2000 lasted five years And now we are talking about five weeks About the much more complicated aim in the in the combat zone So let's be patient and stop counting the day every day Absolutely. Instead of counting the days, I guess we will be counting the accomplishments going forward And there have been some significant ones, but still a lot of work to do kobi Thank you very much for all the analysis and for understanding of the situation on the ground and beyond For everyone else though, we are out of time for this broadcast But we will be back at the top of the next hour. So we'll see you again very soon until then. Thanks for watching Sabes Israel is in a state of war families completely Done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the frontline The general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well Before news is ongoing coverage of israel at war. I'm ariel levin waltz As israeli forces gain ground in the south an important morale victory. Hamas leader is male. Hania's house destroyed in an air strike The house though is just one of many built with billions of dollars of stolen international aid money But it served as a meeting place for senior hamas leadership Hamas has previously said that two of ania's other homes were destroyed though. This is the first one confirmed by israel The idea of also showing the evidence of hamas's militarizing hospitals all across gaza in clear violation of all rules of war This found at shefa hospital hamas weapons military equipment intelligence technologies And that after revealing a vast cache of explosives advanced weapons and hostage holding cells found at rentisi hospital Just a few days ago But at shefa no senior hamas officials were found The israel defense forces announced two more soldiers killed fighting on wednesday in the northern gaza strip Bringing the death toll in the ground operation against hamas to 50 captain asaf muster a platoon commander in the 401st brigades 601 engineering division as well as captain fear it's kak franco a platoon commander the 401st brigades 52nd battalion The biden administration has continued to reject calls for a ceasefire While pushing for more short-term humanitarian pauses biden says that this war will only end once hamas is made powerless In a private session on wednesday biden asked chinese communist leader zizian ping to use his own influence to try to calm global Tensions particularly to try to pressure iran and not to expand the conflict between israel and the terror group hamas with regard to uh When is this going to stop? I think it's going to stop when the uh When hamas no longer maintains the capacity to murder and abuse and and uh and just do a horrific things to the israelis And they're and and they still think at least as of this point And they still thought they could hamas said they plan on doing the same thing again with what they did what they did On the summit they're going to win. They want to slaughter israelis They want to do it again. They've said it out loud They're not kidding about it They're not backing off And so I just asked a rhetorical question. I wonder what we would do If that were the case five six times a day I'm working on how I can be helpful in getting hostages released And have a period of time where there's a pause long enough to let that happen And before anything else, we are going to turn our eye to the northern border or our correspondent zack anders is standing by Zach give us the latest developments from the northern front Well, this morning has been relatively quiet But yesterday, of course, there was renewed fire along the northern border this targeting military target, which is Significant given nasralis comments about targeting israeli civilians since then many of the targets hezbollah has Fired upon has been israeli military objectives and bases on the northern israeli side And targeting israeli troops that at least in the last two days has held true now The idf has responded by firing on those positions the points of origin for has for hezbollah Where these atg's the antitank guided missiles have originated from they've been targeted with airstrikes And artillery and the idf said yesterday They also deployed tanks on the northern border and we're firing on those outposts as well Well, thank you very much zack from the northern border We'll be back with you over the course of the day as the situation there develops But for more on this we are joined in studio by amir aran defense and government commentator and analyst Amir, thank you very much for being with us I want to discuss some of those developments in the north first because one of the things that we saw Not technically in the north was iran telling hamas you acted without telling us you're on your own It seems that they don't want to personally commit themselves to that fight Will that also extend to their proxies such as hezbollah? No, hezbollah is at war with israel albeit a war of attrition and not The same ground maneuver that we see in gaza or earlier when hamas attacked israel and raided israeli bases and settlements But what hamen a is telling sinwar is essentially listen You surprised us. I understand you wanted to keep it secret fine. However, what you did Gave the united states and impetus to send its forces Not only to the eastern Mediterranean But also to my backyard the persian gulf The carrier task force around Eisenhower is in my waters and is threatening me directly So for the time being you should get by on your own I will provide Some flanking support Up north via Hezbollah perhaps through other militias or proxies, but don't expect Iran to take part directly and hezbollah will do each part but By very small doses Does that mean we can still expect hezbollah's role to maintain low intensity? Or is there still a significant risk of that becoming a full-blown part of the war though? If you look at it from Tehran and also from beirut Iran is in danger of losing It's a small proxy Hamas If hezbollah gets into the game full-scale Iran may lose it too This is a risk Which is Not to its liking and therefore it seems as if Iran tells Nasrallah to not only sinwar listen, whatever your considerations may have been 40 days ago Don't do anything more than what you're doing now But by the same token can israel accept a conclusion to this war where hezbollah is still on the northern border With capability is worse than Hamas had on october 7th Capabilities are not necessarily Tied to geography the the most That hezbollah has most of its arsenal Which is close to 200 000 missiles and rockets are not Down south or south of the litany. These are only the short-range weapons aimed to hit The israeli settlements and bases adjacent to the border The big stuff is hidden in the beqa valley or around beirut or even in the northern part of Lebanon around the city of Tripoli or the coastline. So Pushing hezbollah north of the litany river would not do anything to lessen that however it will alleviate the concerns of residents Around or along the border because the raduan force the commander force that Hezbollah has will not be able to raid And they will be free of short-range weapons such as anti-tank mortars and Rockets for that what you must have Is a combination of the so-called grapes of rock understandings from 1996 and security council resolution 1701 from 10 years later It can be reached. It can be mediated. Perhaps this is one of the topics that Biden and she talked about Yesterday the Americans said that area China was asked to use its influence on Iran to contain the conflict and Stop it from getting Larger so perhaps we will see some diplomatic effort with china getting some of the credit It's going to be an interesting development to say at least given where they've thrown their diplomatic statements at least before we continue This though we are going to take a quick look at the southern border at first our correspondent pierre cloche And there is standing by just outside of steru Can you tell us exactly what's going on right now on the southern front? Well, there is still the pounding of Terror targets in the northern Gaza Strip, which is the sector that we Can see from here bethanoon betlahia and the northern edge of the jebalia refugee camp There was a hit in the northern edge of the jebalia refugee camp earlier on But what's very interesting is the focus of the pounding of the israeli air force around the indonesia hospital, which is About that direction Straight on in bethanoon This bombing has been going on for a couple of days already. It's in the vicinity of the hospital. It's not On the hospital per se and we've seen uh, Lockheed see 130 air crew less transport aircraft Distributing flyers dropping flyers from the air probably urging the medical personnel The patients and the people who have seek shelter inside this particular hospital To extract themselves from that place. There are around those hospitals which are uncircled by the israeli army corridors safe passages to join the cohorts of Displaced palestinians who are non-involved in the combat to join the north south salah hadin access That has been used for about two weeks now by the non-involved palestinian population That corridor usually is open from now 9 a.m. Until 4 p.m. Local time and usually we're gonna hear maybe the announcement of localized tactical poses of four hours. That's usually what's happening in order to Also allow the population to replenish its food supply water supply, etc, etc Now on the other hand in the central sector of the gaza strip Kogat the coordinator of activity for the palestinians From the israeli ministry of defense has also dropped leaflets flyers on The eastern edge of hanyunas in villages such as bani suheila Huda, which are close to the israeli border on the central sector of the gaza strip Which is not right now part of the ground offensive that started in october 27 But those flyers are urging the resident to seek shelter somewhere else that could be the prelude To the start of a ground operation south of wadi raza the river of gaza city Which has been the southern limit of the ground operation up until now And another development we saw overnight in gaza is the bombing of hamas political leader ismael honey is home Yeah, we're here. We're hearing artillery fire outbound right now behind you Pierre the strike on ismael honey is home. Is this anything practical or is this simply a moral victory? I think it's just a symbolic A symbolic step by the israeli army honey leaves between katha and Istanbul in turkey is the head of the hamas political bureau is met with Ayatollah hamenai the leader of iran the supreme leader of iran a couple of Maybe last week something like that. So this is only a symbolic gesture His house in the shatih beach camp was bombed in 2014 during operation protective edge and He rebuilt the house. It's a it's a complex. It's also part of It was also a meeting point for hamas leaders military and political leaders. So this is mostly a symbolic Uh a symbolic Step done by the israeli army. We knew about it already yesterday evening because palestinians in gaza Affiliated to hamas had already shown a video of the edifice Just crumbling into dust Well, thank you very much pier and we'll be back with you in the south as developments on that front continue Now another aspect of this war has caused so much heartache here on the home front is the fate of about 239 israeli hostages kidnapped by hamas on the october 7th Massacre and crimes against humanity now many of the families of those hostages are marching to Jerusalem now to demand answers to demand some involvement and to demand their loved ones back joining us now is Yossi schneider an israeli man currently on that march whose family was kidnapped to gaza more than a month ago Yossi, thank you very much for being with us to tell your story Can you help our audience understand just how many members of your family have been taken and your relation to all of them? Actually in the 7th of october six six members of my family been been kidnapped It's my aunt my uncle my cousin And then i was bent on the loot the two little children unfortunately We discovered two two weeks after the kidnap that the hamas Executed my uncle and my aunt near the border of gaza they they took them alive And then they executed them on the border of gaza IDF found their bodies two weeks after the 7th of october So for now we have four members of my of our family in in gaza There's no words of condolence. I can give to hearing that when when you hear about the deals that are Being proposed a three-day ceasefire for 50 hostages or some variant of that. Well, what's your reaction to that? As you all know the hamas is a radical terror organization They are the sons of the devils themselves and the the trust the trust ability are not exist We started with the saying that they want to release 100 people and then they go to 80 people 70 people now they're speaking about 50 people They asking for a humanitarian break of five days I want to remember and remind all the viewers the last operation that we have in gaza When we gave them a Humanitary break they killed and kidnapped one of our soldier Shaul Golding They they killed up to one of the tunnels So I don't want to give the hamas the opportunity to reorganize and try to do something the same to the same to one of our soldiers and The second thing is if they will reorganize that mean that they're gonna gonna get enough air to to breathe for another month and this the That means that the other people that been kidnapped will will not be negotiated right now So if it's not a deal that many people in the march are looking for what is the message that you're bringing to jerusalem at this march My message is to take first of all, of course everybody wants his family back We we are we are very concerned about the the the people that've been oiled by by the terrorists We want everybody back, but We have to think about the price We have to make sure that nobody will get out in the in this process We have to make sure that they they don't they're gonna have enough time to renegotiate about the other people and we have to make sure uh Actually that hamas will go down on his knees and beg us to stop. I think that is this is the only way To get the prisoner back We are not dealing with humans. We're not dealing even with master We're dealing with somebody that it's worth the endeavor himself We don't have to we we don't need to give him any opportunity to act against us We have to keep on fighting them and to make make him understand that they have no choice to release our person If the one if the one in monetary break if they want the war to be end or the only thing that they want they need to do Okay, it's to give up and give our people back and then everything will be end It will be ended. We don't want this war. Nobody needs where you want this war just It's up to them. It's up to them. I'm feel sorry for the citizens of gaza that needs to be bum but The idea spokesman told us that From the last month it's been we've been fired for 10 000 rockets from gaza 10 percent of those rockets fell inside of gaza that mean that 1200 rockets fell down on gaza The citizens population We can we can we know The the media knows only about one case about the the hospital the guy that hamas Fired the missile over there and blame israel and killed almost 500 innocent people So think about how many people he called he killed with his 1200 Missiles and don't remember the second thing that hamas is shooting on people On the street that's trying to evacuate the house Because the idea fastened them They're not allowing people to get out and shooting whoever's trying to get out and run and run to the south part of gaza Yes, so we are all praying with you for the return of your family and for the unconditional surrender of hamas Their total defeat that we make sure that our people can be brought back safely Thank you for your story. I have to tell you one. I want to thank if it's okay Go for it. I have to remind the world of every time because the the world Seen a picture from gaza and blaming and judging israel like he used to I'm telling the world They're the radical a muslim organization In europe in the u.s. They are everywhere right now And and and you have to be very concerned about it You have to be very careful about it because what happened to us in the 7th of october can happen to you every day now So I think you should wake up and understand what we're dealing with And do your best to support us and know that now israel is the shield of europe and You just have to wake up just that's have to wait to understand what we're dealing with we're dealing with and support us and Stop blaming and judges israel for what they are doing right now Absolutely. You see thank you very much for telling your story and we're all praying for you. Thank you Thank you. Have a nice day We're getting some reports in right now of a shooting attack that occurred just outside of jerusalem There are some injuries being reported And that's according to magendavida dome israel's emergency services reporting five injuries at least one of which may be critical The shooter has reportedly been neutralized the details though are still coming in as we speak So we're going to give you more information as that picture becomes more clear I'm going to turn back to a mirror and back in the studio Because it looks like the west bank has been a situation israel has been trying their best to contain to stop from becoming upfront Nonetheless, we have seen this outbreak of terror attacks since the beginning of the war indeed what we Probably saw in These images is that a terrorist tried to cross a barrier into Jerusalem or perhaps into israel proper and Being stopped and checked there probably decided to shoot whoever was there soldiers police officers Or security gods So they may have saved the lives of civilians Inland but paid With injuries, hopefully Not more than that now going back to what we saw from the american-chinese summit This has been president biden's most important and most precise A claim of support For israel Ever since he was here ever since the start of the war Why because when he said that the war will end only when hamas is incapable of repeating the atrocities He has signaled to both netanyahu and synoir That however long the pause or the ceasefire that hamas demands as part of the hostage deal He biden will permit israel to resume fighting once it is over because obviously What hamas has been hoping is that world opinion will put pressure on israel Not to resume it that the ceasefire will be extended from two days three days to a week And israel will lose its momentum biden wants a deal He wants americans out. He wants babies other children women out And apparently he wants to lean on israel To accept the hamas conditions even if it means a long relatively long ceasefire so his Pronouncement tonight gives israel leeway to resume fighting once the first phase of the Hostile deal is over But given hamas's record does anybody truly believe they're negotiating a good faith here? There is no good faith With hamas it's all a matter of interest of their calculations And we don't know How the decision-making process is ongoing Ken synoir decide on his own does he have to get the consensus? In the top leadership, maybe israeli intelligence got wind of it But the public does not know anything about it Now this is all happening while there's some massive internal pressures in israel as well Israel's leader prime minister benjamin nyah who now facing calls from of course the opposition To have a vote of no confidence, but also some simmering from within his own party Ultimately, is this going to be a complicating factor? Is this even realistic to do in the middle of a war? well in the middle of the war Has to do with the length of the war if it's the sixth day war obviously are not going to Change the cabinet in the fourth day of the war Even the yonkipo war was between two and three weeks But we are now today or tomorrow in the six week war Which may be the six month war as it goes on So there's never a good time netanyahu should have probably resigned not on that First day which was a saturday, but the next day on the eight of october He refuses to do so. He resists all calls And therefore he will probably have to be removed by a combination of the opposition And some rebels within liqud or in shahs and the other coalition partners Ultimately if he is removed who takes over and what's that going to look like as far as the war effort and these political negotiations go The war effort will be Conducted regardless of the figure at the helm or on the must head Because the title prime minister does not mean In the current israeli atmosphere that he is the ultimate Decision maker he is calling the shots. It must be a group decision by Most members of the war cabinet. It will probably be Some consensus candidate within the first rank of liqud Someone like julie adelstein who will not be the prime minister following elections And because the postage negotiations are more of a political consideration than a strategic or a military one will have it in fact on those No, it will not but I Back to differ regarding your definition. It is a military issue because the leadership of hamas will still hold cards and will not let The last batch of hostages after A couple of batches civilians After the women and children and all of that they will not let the soldiers They took hostages out until they get immunity. Thank you very much for the analysis amir Just about out of time, but we have to recap that there was just breaking in the last few minutes A shooting attack just outside of jerusalem five people people are injured at least one of which is injured critically We are going to be coming back over the course of the day with updates on that as a more clear picture comes out Till then. Thanks for watching and we'll see you again in just a half hour Israel is in a state of war families completely Done down in their beds. We have no idea where she has our soldiers are fighting on the front lines But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well Before news is ongoing coverage of israel at war as israeli forces gain ground in the south an important morale victory Hamas leader is male. Hania's house destroyed in an airstrike The house though is just one of many built with billions of dollars of stolen international aid money But it served as a meeting place for senior hamas leadership Hamas has previously said that two of Hania's other homes were destroyed though This is the first one confirmed by israel The idea is also showing the evidence of hamas's militarizing hospitals all across gaza in clear violation of all rules of war This found at shefa hospital hamas weapons military equipment intelligence technologies And that after revealing a vast case of explosives advanced weapons and hostage holding cells found at rentisi hospital Just a few days ago, but at shefa no senior hamas officials were found The israel defense forces announced two more soldiers killed fighting on wednesday in the northern gaza strip Bringing the death toll in the ground operation against hamas to 50 Captain asaf muster a platoon commander in the 401st brigades six to one engineering division As well as captain fear it's kak franco a platoon commander the 401st brigades 52nd battalion The biden administration has continued to reject calls for a ceasefire while pushing for more short-term humanitarian pauses biden says that this war will only end once hamas is made powerless In a private session on wednesday biden asked chinese communist leader azizion ping to use his own influence to try to calm global tensions Particularly to try to pressure iran not to expand the conflict between israel and the terror group hamas with regard to When is this going to stop I think it's going to stop when the When hamas no longer maintains the capacity to murder and abuse and uh and just do a horrific things to the israelis And they're and and they still think at least as of this morning They still thought they could hamas said they plan on doing the same thing again with what they did what they did on the senate They're going to go in they want to slaughter israelis They want to do it again. They've said it out loud. They're not kidding about it They're not backing off And so I just asked a rhetorical question I wonder what we would do If that were the case five six times a day I'm working on how I can be helpful and getting the hostages released And have a period of time where there's a pause long enough to let that happen And before anything else we are going to turn our eye to the northern border where our correspondent zack anders is standing by Zach give us the latest developments from the northern front Well, this morning has been relatively quiet But yesterday, of course there was renewed fire along the northern border this targeting military target Which is a significant given nasralis comments about targeting israeli civilians since then Many of the targets hezbollah has fired upon has been israeli military objectives and bases on the northern israeli side and targeting israeli troops that at least in the last Two days has held true now the idf has responded by firing on those positions the points of origin for has for hezbollah Where these atg's the anti-tape guided missiles have originated from they've been targeted with airstrikes And artillery and the idf said yesterday They also deployed tanks on the northern border and we're firing on those outposts as well Well, thank you very much. Isaac from the northern border will be back with you over the course of the day As the situation there develops But for more on this we are joined in studio by amir aran defense and government commentator and analyst Amir, thank you very much for being with us I want to discuss some of those developments in the north first because one of the things that we saw Not technically in the north was iran telling hamas you acted without telling us you're on your own It seems that they don't want to personally commit themselves to that fight Will that also extend to their proxies such as hezbollah? No, hezbollah is at war with israel albeit a war of attrition and not The same ground maneuver that we see in gaza or earlier when hamas attacked israel and raided israeli basis and settlements But what hamen a is telling sinwar is essentially listen You surprised us. I understand you wanted to keep it secret fine. However, what you did Gave the united states and impetus to send its forces Not only to the eastern Mediterranean But also to my backyard the persian gulf the carrier task force around Eisenhower is in my waters and is threatening me directly So for the time being you should get by on your own I will provide some flanking support Up north via hezbollah perhaps through other militias or proxies, but don't expect Iran to take part directly And hezbollah will do each part But By very small doses Does that mean we can still expect hezbollah's role to maintain low intensity? Or is there still a significant risk of that becoming a full blown part of the war though? If you look at it from Tehran and also from beirut Iran is in danger of losing its small proxy hamas If hezbollah gets into the game full scale Iran may lose it too This is a risk Which is Not to its liking and therefore it seems as if Iran tells nasrallah to not only Sinwar listen, whatever your considerations may have been 40 days ago Don't do Anything more than what you're doing now But by the same token can israel accept a conclusion to this war where hezbollah is still on the northern border With capability is worse than what hamas had on october 7th capabilities are not necessarily tied to geography the the most That hezbollah has most of its arsenal, which is close to 200 000 missiles and rockets are not Down south or south of the litany. These are only the short-range weapons aimed to hit The israeli settlements and bases adjacent to the border The big stuff is hidden in the beqa valley or around beirut or even in the northern part of Lebanon around the city of triply or the coastline. So um Pushing hezbollah North of the litany river would not do anything to lessen that. However, it will alleviate the concerns of residents Around or along the border because the raduan force the commander force that Hezbollah has will not be able to raid And they will be free of short-range weapons such as anti-tank motors and Rockets for that what you must have is a combination of the so-called grapes of rock understandings from 1996 And security council resolution 1701 from 10 years later It can be reached. It can be mediated. Perhaps this is one of the topics that biden and she talked about Yesterday the americans said that area china was asked to use its influence On iran to contain the conflict and Stop it from getting Larger so perhaps we will see some diplomatic effort with china getting some of the credit It's going to be an interesting development to say at least given where they've thrown their diplomatic statements at least before we continue This though, we are going to take a quick look at the southern border first our correspondent pier closure There is standing by just outside of sterot. Can you tell us exactly what's going on right now on the southern front? well, there is still the pounding of Terror targets in the northern gaza strip, which is the sector that we can see from here beth anoon beth laia And the northern edge of the jibalia refugee camp There was a hit in the northern edge of the jibalia refugee camp earlier on But what's very interesting is the focus of the pounding of the israeli air force around the indonesia hospital, which is About that direction Straight on in beth hanoon This bombing has been going on for a couple of days already. It's in the vicinity of the hospital. It's not On the hospital per se and we've seen low kids see 130 air coolers transport aircraft Distributing flyers dropping flyers from the air probably urging the medical personnel The patients and the people who have seek shelter inside this particular hospital To extract themselves from that place. There are around those hospitals which are uncircled by the israeli army corridors safe passages to join the cohorts of Displaced palestinians who are not involved in the combat to join the north south salah hadin access That has been used for about two weeks now by the non-involved palestinian population that corridor usually is open from now 9 a.m. Until 4 p.m. Local time and usually we're going to hear maybe the announcement of localized tactical poses of four hours. That's usually what's happening in order to Also allow the population to replenish its food supply water supply, etc, etc Now on the other hand in the central sector of the gaza strip Cogat the coordinator of activity for the palestinians from the israeli ministry of defense has also dropped leaflets flyers on The eastern edge of hanunas in villages such as bani suheila Huda, which are close to the israeli border on the central sector of the gaza strip Which is not right now part of the ground offensive that started in october 27 But those flyers are urging the resident to seek shelter somewhere else That could be the prelude to the start of a ground operation South of wadi raza the river of gaza city Which has been the southern limit of the ground operation up until now And another development we saw overnight in gaza is the bombing of hamas political leader is melania's home Yeah, we're here. We're hearing artillery fire outbound right now behind you Pierre the the strike on is melania's home. Is this anything practical or is this simply a moral victory? I think it's just a symbolic A symbolic step by the israeli army honey lives between katar And istanbul in turkey is the head of the hamas political bureau is met with Ayatollah hamenai the leader of iran the supreme leader of iran a couple of Maybe last week something like that. So this is only a symbolic gesture his house in the shati beach camp was bombed in 2014 during operation protective edge and He rebuilt the house. It's a it's a complex. It's also part of A it was also a meeting point for hamas leaders military and political leaders. So This is mostly a symbolic A symbolic Step done by the israeli army. We knew about it already yesterday evening because palestinians in gaza Affiliated to hamas had already shown a video of the edifice Just crumbling into dust Well, thank you very much pier and we'll be back with you in the south as developments on that front continue Now another aspect of this war has caused so much heartache here on the home front is the fate of about 239 israeli hostages kidnapped by hamas on the october 7th Massacre and crimes against humanity now many of the families of those hostages are marching to jerusalem now To demand answers to demand some involvement and to demand their loved ones back Joining us now is yosi schneider a israeli man currently on that march whose family was kidnapped to gaza more than a month ago Yosi, thank you very much for being with us to tell your story Can you help our audience understand just how many members of your family have been taken and your relation to all of them Actually in the 7th of october six six members of my family been been kidnapped It's my aunt my uncle my cousin And then i was bent on the loot the two little children unfortunately We discovered two two weeks after the kidnap that the hamas Executed my uncle and my aunt near the border of gaza they they took them alive And then they executed them on the border of gaza IDF found their bodies two weeks after the 7th of october so for now we have four members of our family in gaza There's no words of condolence. I can give to hearing that when you hear about the deals that are Being proposed a three-day ceasefire for 50 hostages or some variant of that. What's your reaction to that? As you all know, the hamas is a radical terror organization They are the sons of the devils themselves and the the trust the trustability are not exist We started with the saying that they want to release 100 people and then they go to 80 people 70 people now they're speaking about 50 people They're asking for a humanity break of five days I want to remember and remind all the viewers the last operation that we have in gaza When we gave them a monetary break they killed and kidnapped one of our soldier shaul goulding Killed up to one of the tunnels. So I don't want to give the hamas the opportunity to reorganize and try to do something the same to one of our soldiers and the The second thing is if they will reorganize that mean that they're gonna gonna get enough air To to breathe for another month and this That means that the other people that have been kidnapped will will not be negotiated right now So if it's not a deal that many people in the march are looking for what is the message that you're bringing to jerusalem with this march My message is to thank first of all, of course, everybody wants his family back We we are we are very concerned about the the the people that have been oiled by by the terrorists We want everybody back, but We have to think about the price We have to make sure that nobody will get out in the in this process We have to make sure That they they don't gonna have enough time to renegotiate about the other people and we have to make sure Actually that hamas will go down on his knees and beg us to stop. I think that is this is the only way To get the prisoner back We are not dealing with humans. We're not dealing even with master We're dealing with somebody that it's worth the endeavor himself We don't have to we don't need to give him any opportunity To act against us We have to keep on fighting them and to make make him understand that they have no choice to release our person If the one if the one in monetary break if they want the world to be end Or the only thing that they want they need to do Okay, it's to give up and give our people back and then everything will be end It will be ended. We don't want this war. Nobody in israel want this war just It's up to them. It's up to them and feel sorry for the citizens of gaza that needs to be uh, uh, but The the idea spokesman told us that From the last month it's been we've been fired for 10 000 rockets from gaza 10 percent of those rockets felt inside of gaza that mean that 1200 rockets fell down on gaza Citizens population We can we can we know the the media knows only about one case about the the hospital that that hamas Fired a missile over there and blame israel and killed almost 500 innocent people So think about how many people he called he killed with this 1200 Missile and don't remember the second thing that hamas is shooting on people On the street that's trying to evacuate the house Because the idea fastened them They're not allowing people to get out and shooting whoever trying to get out and run and run to the south part of gaza Yes, we are all praying with you for the return of your family and for the unconditional surrender of hamas They're a total defeat that we make sure that our people can be brought back safely Go for it I have to remind the world of every time because the world Seeing a picture of gaza and blaming and judging israel like he used to I'm telling the world the radical Muslim organization In europe in the u.s. They are everywhere right now And and and you have to be very concerned about it You have to be very careful about it because what happened to us in the 7th of october can happen to you every day now So I think you should wake up and understand what we're dealing with And do your best to support us and know that now israel is the shield of europe and You just have to wake up just that's have to wait to understand what we're dealing with and support us and Stop blaming and judges israel for what they're doing right now Absolutely, you see thank you very much for telling your story and we're all praying for you. Thank you. Thank you We're getting some reports in right now of a shooting attack that occurred just outside of jerusalem There are some injuries being reported And that's according to magendavida dome israel's emergency services Reporting five injuries at least one of which may be critical The shooter has reportedly been neutralized the details though are still coming in as we speak So we're going to give you more information as that picture becomes more clear I'm going to turn back to amir aran back in the studio Because it looks like the west bank has been in a situation israel has been trying their best to contain to Stop from becoming upfront. Nonetheless. We have seen this outbreak of terror attacks since the beginning of the war indeed what we probably saw in These images is that a terrorist tried to cross a barrier into jerusalem or perhaps into israel proper and Being stopped and checked there Probably decided to shoot whoever was there soldiers police officers or security guards So they may have saved the lives of civilians inland but paid With injuries, hopefully Not more than that now going back to What we saw from the American chinese summit This has been president biden's most important and most precise A claim of support For israel Ever since he was here ever since the start of the war Why because when he said that the war will end only when hamas is incapable of repeating the atrocities He has signaled to both netanyahu and synoir That however long the pause or the ceasefire that hamas demands as part of the hostage deal He biden will permit israel to resume fighting once it is over because obviously What hamas has been hoping is that world opinion will put pressure on israel Not to resume it that the ceasefire will be extended from two days three days to a week And israel will lose its momentum biden wants a deal He wants americans out. He wants babies other children women out and Apparently he wants to lean on israel to accept the hamas conditions Even if it means a long relatively long ceasefire so his Pronouncement tonight gives israel leeway to resume fighting once the first phase of the Hostile deal is over But given hamas's record does anybody truly believe they're negotiating a good faith here? There is no good faith With hamas it's all a matter of interest of the calculations And we don't know How the decision-making process is ongoing? Ken sinwar decide on his own. Does he have to get a consensus? In the top leadership, maybe israeli intelligence got wind of it But the public does not know anything about it Now this is all happening while there's some massive internal pressures in israel as well israel's leader prime minister benjamin nitya who now facing calls from of course the opposition To have a vote of no confidence, but also some simmering from within his own party Ultimately, is this going to be a complicating factor? Is this even realistic to do in the middle of a war? Well in the middle of the war Has to do with the length of the war if it's the sixth day war. Obviously you're not going to Change the cabinet in the fourth day of the war Even the yom kippur war was between two and three weeks But we are now today or tomorrow in the six week war Which may be the six month war as it goes on. So there's never a good time Netanyahu should have probably resigned not on that First day, which was a saturday, but the next day on the eight of october He refuses to do so. He resists all calls And therefore he will probably have to be removed by a combination of the opposition And some rebels within liqud or in shahs and the other coalition partners Ultimately if he is removed who takes over and what's that going to look like as far as the war effort and these political negotiations go The war effort Will be Conducted regardless of the figure At the helm or on the masthead Because the title prime minister does not mean In the current israeli atmosphere that he is the ultimate Decision maker. He is calling the shots. It must be a group decision by Most members of the war cabinet It will probably be Some consensus candidate within the first rank of liqud Someone like julie adelstein who will not be the prime minister following elections And because the postage negotiations are more of a political Consideration than a strategic or a military one will have it in fact on those No, it will not but i Back to differ regarding your definition It is a military issue because the leadership of hamas will still hold cards And will not let the last batch of hostages after A couple of of batches civilians After the women and children and all of that they will not let the soldiers They took hostage out until they get immunity Thank you very much for the analysis amir Just about out of time, but we have to recap that there was just breaking in the last few minutes A shooting attack just outside of jerusalem five people people are injured at least one of which is injured critically We are going to be coming back over the course of the day with updates on that as a more clear picture comes out Until then thanks for watching and we'll see you again in just a half hour Israel is in a state of war families completely Done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well Medio in espanol que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en israel news 24 únicamente en i-24 news Intel have even welcomed the i-24 news as ongoing coverage of israel at war We open with breaking news a terror attack just south of jerusalem three terrorists open fire at a checkpoint Israel's magandamida dumb first responders say four israelis are injured at least one of which is in critical condition to terrorist Reportedly neutralized on scene but a third still on the loose with a manhunt underway There is reportedly also a bomb squad unit on the scene security forces must confront the possibility of an ied on site This all happening as israeli forces gain ground in the south with an important morale victory Hamas leader ismail hania's house destroyed in an airstrike The house is just one of many built with billions of dollars of stolen international aid money And served as a meeting place for senior hamas leadership Hamas has previously said two of hania's other homes were destroyed though. This is the first one confirmed by israel The idea of also showing evidence of hamas's militarizing hospitals all across gaza clear violation of all rules of war Now this was found at hamas's uh that gaza sheep a hospital hamas's weapons military equipment and intelligence technology This comes just after revealing a vast case of explosives advanced weapons And hostage holding rooms found at rentisi hospital just a few days earlier The idea announced that two soldiers were killed fighting on wednesday in the northern gaza strip Which brings the death toll on the ground offensive against hamas to 50 The biden administration has continued to reject any calls for a ceasefire while pushing for more short-term humanitarian pauses biden said this war will only end once hamas is made powerless with regard to uh When is this going to stop? I think it's going to stop when the uh When hamas no longer maintains the capacity to murder and abuse and and uh and just do a horrific things to the israelis And they're in and they still think at least as of this morning They still thought they could hamas said they plan on doing the same thing again What they did what they did on the senate they're going to go in they want to slaughter israelis They want to do it again. They've said it out loud. They're not kidding about it They're not backing off And so I just asked a rhetorical question. I wonder what we would do If that were the case five six times a day I'm working on how I can be helpful in getting the hostages released And have a period of time where there's a pause long enough to let that happen Now we are joined in studio by a security panel consistent of jonathan reggae of our defense correspondent As well as former senior intelligence officer with the idf rafael you were showing me. Thank you both for being here I want to discuss what we just saw happen just south of jerusalem this terror attack jonathan I want to know what the most recent details are on this So we're speaking of a three terrorists that arrived in a car. This is a checkpoint just south of jerusalem It's known as the tunnel checkpoint leading to what is known as the tunnel road From jerusalem southwards towards the area of hebron three people three terrorists arriving in a car Opening fire on the checkpoint. They were all shot and killed as far as we understand and Seven people were injured in the checkpoint one of them in severe condition taken to hospital in jerusalem Another six in various conditions also to transported to hospitals in Jerusalem When we're speaking of three people that arrived in a car with the machine guns then obviously this is not a lone wolf thing We're speaking a lot of lone wolf attacks in the west bank people grabbing a knife From the kitchen or taking the car. This is not the case if we have three people with machine guns Who came with a car? This is something that had to be coordinated one way or another We still don't know the identity of the terrorists Whether they belong to a cell or or note whether they plan this themselves But this is not just something that that originated this morning This is not someone who woke up in the morning and decided to kill the first israeli that they see There's some sort of planning here and and this is obviously not a lone wolf thing We're speaking a lot obviously about gaza gaza is the main headline But the west bank and the terrorism there has not gone anywhere We're perhaps not speaking about this all for obvious reasons As much as we do in there in normal days But the activity there is happening all the time since the war began nearly a month and a half ago We're speaking of more than 100 terrorists killed all over the west bank. We're speaking of more than 1000 terrorists arrested The anti-terror operation is ongoing in the west bank as well Of course not in the same forces we see in gaza, but this is an ongoing operation all the time And and what we saw this morning is is is a part of it three terrorist week We can and i'll say have been short and neutralized there in the checkpoint And i want to turn to you as well raffa illness because as jonathan mentioned The west bank has not gone away as a theater of operations In fact from what i understand it's only been increasing in intensity despite israel's best efforts to keep it from exploding completely Yes, so far the central command has done a terrific job Containing all the terrorist threats Coming from the west bank Sometimes it makes me wonder why it wasn't done before because since the war started we have limited great deal The threats of a terrorist activity the difficulty now is of course we can always fear the known wolf phenomenon But the the difficulty now is what we call the dormant cells They are cells of the ramas and the islamic jihad that have never been activated. They are dormant. They keep a very low profile They do not train. They do not Show movement The weapons are hidden somewhere And they are all of a sudden activated. They just come out out of the blue somehow Into the The terrain it's different from those cells that we know the existence of in janin in napluz And that were more or less monitoring and were arresting or eliminating As the case may be so these dormant cells are going to wake up now and appear here and there The question is where were they going because it was a very well planned indeed But i think they were wanted to go maybe Through this checkpoint into jerusalem And i think they just got spotted and then they started shooting whatever they could shoot out And they were thank god eliminated And they are still checked around the area to see if they didn't put explosives or they have more accomplices, but Okay, we can't have a hundred percent total absolute security Once in a while we will have to be ready to see some terrorists making it towards in jerusalem towards The israeli territory or even a settlement inside the west bank itself It's something that cannot be avoided. Absolutely So far it's still a success and as you're not already have said it's a it's another front We have four fronts. We have the north the south and the center the first one being the yemen Who it is but there's there's the west bank is is a front We are in a war with Terrorists that are not less well armed and equipped and trained than those who are facing in gaza And jonathan we we know that hamas is very active in the west bank now Ultimately as israel continues to remove mid-level commanders and operational leaders in hamas at least in gaza Will that break the chain of communication and the chain of command for the terror cells in the west bank as well? probably not There is sort of communication. Yes, but but Hamas terror cells in the west bank are operating independently of what is happening in gaza and Even so much that we cannot really call them hamas terror cells because if we look at jenin if we look at nablus For example the main focal points of terrorism in the west bank. This is more of Local organizations rather than Organizational organizations if we can call it this way. They're not really They're not directly connected to hamas or to islamic jihad or to fatah These are militants from all groups coming and and and joining in in a Local organization such as alliance then in nablus for example. It was not directly tied to hamas or to islamic jihad, but sort of a militant conglomeration all of them coming together Bringing in local local criminals also Because the the money that they raise Comes also from from from thefts and from drug smuggling and things like that So the fact that hamas is Broken or on the process of being broken in gaza. That will not change the way of operation in The west bank. We also know that the hamas leaders in the west bank They were not aware of the october 7th attack for example. Therefore. I think we we will still see A Terrorists of all kinds those related to hamas or to other organizations continuing to operate in the west bank Regardless of what is happening in gaza rafael under those conditions if they are operating entirely independently Is there a risk that the west bank becomes a true front or can it not really scale to that level? Well, don't think it can scale to that level and so far as these organizations are sporadic and not coordinating Between themselves their their actions the linens then on the brigade of jeanine are not coordinating with the the hamas or the islamic jihad So everyone is acting on his own accord and don't think to to have a more general Like a pricing violent uprising you will need all these organizations to work hand in hand, which they don't And the hamas itself is divided. I mean The the the hamas in the west bank is really led by mr. Alaruri who lives abroad and Does what he wants without independently for what mr. C1 C1 does in gaza for instance So all this is like they're very divided separated. They might not necessarily all have the same agenda And the difference in the west bank. It's still the presence of Palestinian autonomy security forces Uh, their cooperation still exists. It might not be the most efficient in the world That's for sure, but they're still there the presence is there and the fact that the plo Doesn't like these factions these factions are rivals of the plo Will entice the Palestinian autonomy and mr. Abu Mazen to cooperate more with the israelis than with the terrorists Now you have an intelligence background Does this mean with the war going on much of our intelligence assets are tied up dealing with hamas in gaza Or are there still good operational solutions to these sort of lone wolf and small-scale terror dens in the west bank as well Yes, you have to understand that the same way Uh, the geographical Tcater of operation is divided in geographical territorial commands Our intelligence is divided also in territorial areas and also in specialities So every intelligence unit has its own Domain of expertise its own territory to Analyze and to get information from so this this doesn't change anything the fact that we are at war In the south are war in the north and the north doesn't change anything for those in the central commands For instance who are in charge of spying on the terrorists With the shin bet So everyone is doing their job where they are culturally needed and where they have been assigned So it doesn't change much about that. The the lone wolf will always be the known wolf problem meaning You can't detect a person that hasn't maybe itself Ourself Is decided We even want to to act and sometimes it's on the spur of the moment So that's of course we will always remain in difficulty And the the source of this And the difficulty and the source of the problem is the propaganda on the networks You have to be a lot a lot on the cyber anti terrorist cyber activity To limit as possible the damage caused by all these propaganda incitement on the networks And we're going to turn our eye to the south before we have any further discussion in the studio Our correspondent pier closure lair is standing by just on the border outside of sterot We're hearing a lot of smoke behind you pier. What's the latest on that front? Right, there seems to be two focuses this morning of the israeli air force operating In conjunction with israeli ground forces in the northern gaza strip, which is under israeli control And yet there's a lot of terror pockets to be cleansed Now what you see here is probably a terror target that has been hit in The northern edge of the jibalia refugee camp, which is itself north of gaza city But earlier we've seen a very close detonation too close detonation close to the israeli border in the bethanun area And there is another focus which is the indonesia hospital Which has been encircled by the israeli army the same pressure cooker tactic of bombing terror targets around the hospital and urging the medical personnel the patients and the displaced Non-involved palestinians that have seek refuge inside the hospital compound to leave the area and join the cohort of palestinian Who are using the safe passage to cross to southern gaza now an interesting point is that There are a lot of Activity also in the southern part of the gaza strip, which we do not really report on first of all There are a strike since the onset of the war declared by hamas inflicted by hamas in israel on october 7, but also There have been droppings of flyers To the residents of localities that are east of hanyun as close to the israeli border in the central sector of the gaza strip south of the limits of the actual ground operation and These flyers are urging the palestinian residents of al-khuzaa To leave and seek shelter somewhere else down south that would probably mean That at some point in the near future The ground offensive might start in the central sector of the gaza strip to go down Gradually to the southern sector, which is close to the border with egypt Well, thank you very much pierre for that report from the south giving us a sense of what's going on on the ground behind you And generally tactically We're also going to turn our eye to the northern border now because our correspondent zack anders is standing by for us live There zack, can you give us the latest developments from the northern front? Well within the last few minutes there has been a another red alert this for stula in the confrontation line near The northern border with lebanon We've heard in the last 15 minutes what sounds like the distant thumps of outgoing israeli artillery We are still working at this hour to confirm if those two are related if this is again Another incident involving hezbollah firing on israeli positions These red alerts in the last few days many have been of course true others have been false alarms The idf has been saying that they are taking every precaution necessary here on the northern border To ensure that the civilians who have remained who have not evacuated even though there has been A long call to evacuate for several weeks that making sure those people who have stayed are still safe In these border communities again, this is a very mountainous rocky terrain that creates some challenges to be able to identify And limit the exposure on these border communities where some of these hezbollah targets and Forces have been moving amongst the hills descending down firing on israeli positions And then retreating back deeper into lebanese territory Well, thank you zack for that look from the northern front as it develops as we starting the same things heat up again today We are going to return to our discussion panel in studio I want to talk to you first rafael because we are talking about the northern front and the big question has always been Well, we know that hezbollah is part of the war the question is are they going to unleash the full might of their arsenal? And that's been anyone's guess. We saw just overnight Iran telling hamas you went without our say so you're on your own Does that mean they're abandoning a plan to open a massive multi-fronted war for israeli's destruction? And that they're about to write off hamas as an asset at this point I wouldn't trust one word what is coming out of tehran. Whatever they say We have 50% chance at least that it's a lie So to start with and whatever they say is not so important as whatever we say What are our intentions? I mean the threat is there the threat is hanging over our heads from the hezbollah from tehran It's been the the case for years Now is a turning point. What are we going to do? Are we going just to sit there and let the hezbollah play with us tackle us without answering properly? Or are we going to strike a blow? We have learned one thing from the what happened in the south the tragedy of the south We don't have sufficiently good intel the proof being that we don't know what Hassan Nasrallah has in mind. I'm not sure he knows himself. He's probably checking and he will decide as it goes as it goes But we don't have that intel and we do not have deterrence The same way we didn't have deterrence in the south We don't have deterrence in the north and the hezbollah is just shooting whatever they want to shoot when they want to shoot How much they want to shoot? This is unacceptable. This is abnormal We have evacuated more than 70 000 people According to a certain threat that is still there so they can't come back and they will not be able to come back If the threat is just the same as when they left We have hundreds of thousands of reservists called to duty who have been trained differently from those in the south The northern command has been training for a scenario of war with his bala. So they are ready to do so We have a mode of economy that's a war mode of economy that we cannot sustain indefinitely and neutralizing the israeli economy or Like stop and then start and then stop again. That would be a catastrophe So all these things mean that we have to act now And especially that we do have this american presence in the military and that is at least offering us a better Defense system protection and i do believe that the americans will not stand On the side if something starts even though the balan administration as the israeli not to start Which is a mistake because if you want to have the upper hand you have to start Why leave the initiative to to to your enemy? But let's say that we do that and the Administration would be a little angry at israel for doing so they will still not abandon us on let us fight that on our own So really the time has come to do that. It's not my personal opinion I mean it is in a way, but it is also the opinion of most brigade commanders and division commanders of the northern command Who are sending signals to the chief of staff and to to the minister of defense that the time has come to act and There is the military capacity the chief of the air force to merba a few days ago said They have no problem for the air force to tackle the northern front. They have enough planes They have enough reservists they even haven't called all their reservists yet And they have no problem to tackle these northern front and while being busy in the south So all this put together Let's do hope that it's a matter of when and not of if Because I don't see any other choice the minimum being we're not going to dismantle the khizballah Like we want to dismantle the hammers, but the way what do we want is to push them back As much as possible towards the north into inside lebanon in the lebanese territory At least to the litany river, which is by the un resolution 1701 What should be and it should be a demilitarized zone a buffer zone between the khizballah and the border of lebanon with israel Where that that vacuum should be filled only by either the lebanese army Or the blue helmets of unifil so right now it's not the case See we're entitled and we are capable and that we should Strike creatively the khizballah And I also want to turn back to the south front as well because we had both of our reporters back to back there And our reporter in the south pier mentioned the dropping of leaflets on parts of south gaza now talking about evacuations Doesn't mean israel's finally ready to take the fight to other parts of gaza to try to flush hamas out now that we've seen They've largely abandoned a lot of their infrastructure in the north Yes, so what is happening is quite simple Was fortifying the position in the north The idea is now preparing to tackle the center and south of the gaza strip We still have to fortify a little more. I think the position in the north We are far from having finished the job there But we're in control. So once we're in control and the hamas has lost the control It is possible to plan now ahead and start dealing with the center and the south Especially that the main battle of the whole war will be there in hanunis I mean as spectacular and difficult the battle was now in the north in gaza city Hanunis is another ball game. It's going to be very is the epitome of your bono warfare We're going to be met with a lot of bad surprises. It's going to be very difficult It is also the the birthplace of most of the leaders of the hamas sinwar muhammad def They were born in in hanunis. So this will be a big fight. Let's remember one more thing 74 people that's roughly a third of the people kidnapped came from kibbutz near ols kibbutz near ols standing right Opposite to hanunis not to gaza city to hanunis on the southern part of of the the gaza strip Are they held there? I don't know The assumption is that they're in the area because that's the closest place to kibbutz near ols So the assumption is yes and Is densely populated as gaza city is hanunis is first more densely populated Especially with one million people coming from the northern gaza strip to the area of hanunis It's going to be a very difficult operational battlefield I want to just recap for our audience the developing story though That's still in front of us that broke only about an hour ago And that would be the shooting attack at a checkpoint just south of jerusalem That is four wounded one critically as three terrorists opened up and you're seeing the live images of the site right now Three terrorists with automatic weapons opened fire on that checkpoint Now we are hearing that all three of those terrorists were killed now So there is no longer any word of a manhunt or anybody on the loose I'm going to return back to the studio With you jonathan as well just to recap any of the details that I missed in my summary So three terrorists killed They were heavily armed meaning this as we as we said earlier They did not just wake up this morning and said take let's hurt the first israeli that we see There's some organization behind this making sure they have weapons proper weapons That they have cars maybe even with a double license plate That's something that has to be checked And of course There's some kind of an Organization behind this it might be Hamas. It might be islamic jihad It might be the local organizations because we saw that in the west bank in recent months It's not so much Hamas islamic jihad fatah But sort of local gangs coming together and forming a terror group But this is obviously something that was not thought about and Beginning to process this morning. But this is something that that has been taken more time Various people injured taken to jewsland hospitals one of them at least in severe condition So we will bring the developments over the course of the day I thank you both for Explanation of what's going on on the ground as well as the breaking news story that we're covering for everyone else We are just about out of time But we will see you again in about a half hour at the top of the 11 o'clock local time Thanks for watching until then we'll see you again very soon Israel is in a state of war families completely Done down in their beds. We have no idea where you see as our soldiers are fighting on the front line But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well Since the outbreak of this war our journalists here at i24 news have been providing around the clock coverage And giving a voice to all those impacted by the october 7th massacre And while gaining perspectives on the whole left through israeli society an impact on the entire middle east Here are some of the best stories from our coverage since this war began A survivor from from one of those attacks. Yuli bent a me Uh a survivor from kibbutz berry. Yuli. Thank you so much for joining us right now 25 days after that initial attack I can't imagine what you've been through for the past three and a half weeks Can you tell us your story take us back to october 7th? Yes, so I woke up at six in the morning And from syrians And then at six and a half we got a message and someone got into the kibbutz. I didn't kibbutz berry And and then we started to eat real screaming in arabic and a lot of shooting And I spoke with my father my mother and at seven 20 in the morning they told me that there are stories outside the house and that They are trying to get in at nine and a half. They already told me that they got into the house And that they are breaking everything And it's 10 in the morning. We got a message from a father That said that are in the shelter and that they are going to take them One hour later we got a photo of my father In gaza And we didn't know nothing about my mother until one week later that we got a picture and a video From the 7th of october When the terrorists take her to us to some place And the only thing we know is that there are voting gaza We don't know their physical condition I just know that my mom she's sick She needs medication. I don't know how much longer she can survive Without those medication Right now we don't have nothing about them The Hamas is not cooperating and he gave us names or something so We don't know how are they? What about from the Israeli government or Israeli officials? Have you been speaking to them and have they been updating you on any of their efforts to try and Rescue your loved ones Yes, of course for now What the government told me that They are kidnapped And it's all we know they they don't know where or how they are because nobody Told them or us The Hamas is keeping it information for the for themselves As you continue as you recount your own story I'm curious about the emotions that you were feeling on that day I know as we learn more about the details of this Attack we continue to learn more about the horror stories, but as you were experiencing it Did you have any idea that that's what was happening around you? No, we have no clue We didn't know the whole That our people in my community in my boots Have true I mean We just learned it later The massacre that they That they did in my boots The number of people that are gone The number of people that we don't know nothing about them Even if they kidnapped or even if they did And we still trying to understand everything We still hear stories About how our people died How our people murdered And it's hopeful And in that time we only Scared what we didn't Know how much it was dangerous for us And and now as you continue to speak to other members of your community as you continue to work through this this grief this pain How are you guys coming together and and supporting each other right now? I think we are a very strong community We are here for each other We help each other We have Almost everything we need and what we don't have Someone help us to get So I feel like my community is Just gets stronger and stronger every day And we really love each other And we here to continue our legacy and here to continue To do what we gotta do To just live and Be stronger from the situation It's a beautiful message of strength that so many people need right now I'm I'm curious how you're feeling after the news yesterday that the Israeli army was able to rescue one soldier from the Gaza Strip What emotions did you feel seeing that and knowing that your loved ones are still there? And I felt happy for the family We feel happy for everyone that got out alive or They don't want to think about it, but we We feel the hope and the strength and We trust our army To bring my father's my parents save and alive and healthy When you see your parents for the first time What what do you expect to do? What what emotions? What are what are you waiting for to to feel? To hide them I just need to get out and So just feel them with me hug them and Then my love and my strength And I want them to know that we are here for them waiting for them and love them And we are stronger and here waiting just To to hide them Well, thank you so much Yuli Ben-Ami for sharing your story and and for sharing the story of your parents as well We we so appreciate you coming on here and speaking to us about really what happened at Kibbutz Berry back on october 7th Thank you reminder of how complex Disoffensive in Gaza is because 240 hostages remain in Gaza among the babies young children and the elderly while many families suffering a complete agony for the past 26 days as they wait to hear news of their loved ones and with us now Aviram Meir and Orit Meir. Thank you for very thank you very much for being with us. I understand Your your daughter has been kidnapped. Is that right? Not daughter my son. I'm so sorry your son your son. I'm sorry. My apologies your son. Tell us what happened Tell us about your son My son is 21 is old Is a Is a very happy guy social guy Very happy Smart What can I say? Is that My son is all my life All my life. I understand I understand what happened Yeah, what happened is that you went to celebrate in a party It was a Friday night. He was supposed to start a new job on Sunday And that Friday he went to celebrate his friends on the party a party of love and happiness and in about a 75 p.m. A.m My son they woke me up in the morning and called and said to me Mom they closed the The party They are rockets rockets all over And the bombs and I'm hiding. I don't know what's going on. I'll call you every half an hour Mom, I love you And since then I don't have any contact with him That's the last time you heard his voice Yes, yes After a few hours we got A clip from the Te Hamas published And I saw him He was lying this this clip He was lying on the floor with other young guys and few of them were Were tight by hands And they were frightened and my my son covered his hands And his face with his hands And I was looking at his face. It was you know, it was very fun very fun There's nothing no worse nightmare for a mother to see your child in in pain and suffering. I'm so sorry or eats I'm so so sorry So I mean when you see that the operation is continuing the troops are moving into Gaza you hopeful they're gonna They're gonna bring your boy back home We hope so we hope so yeah What I mean, what What kind of what kind of character is it do you think he'll be he'll be with the other hostages He'll be you know, he'll have the strength. He'll be talking to them. He'll be helping people get through it Is that the kind of guy he is I believe he's a strong guy I believe I believe he can he can manage but I'm worried Of course seven If he's uh We don't know if he's alive. We what is eating Where he stay I will sleep if he's alone with friends We know nothing about it and I'm so worried Of course, it's agony And I'm afraid I'm afraid That uh, you know Everything can happen Yeah I want a sign that is a life The that is okay I understand. What is what I mean? It's yeah go another We ask for humanitarian For the hostages for all the hostages and among with them Among them the We need something to see that is okay and is alive and We know that other hostages have lots of And this is the first stage Of trust they have to do for humanity All the matter here is humanity. This is what they have to To give them medical and doctors And the great cross will see them Absolutely very basic demands What's what's keeping you going 26 days of this absolute hell? How do you how do you get through the day? Very hard very hard We can't sleep eat You know, it's a everything Change my life change Yeah I am I'm not working now. I'm doing everything to bring my son back. Yeah Well, listen or eat in Aviram. We're very sorry for you It's absolutely horrendous what you're going through and we pray for you and we hope you you have a happy outcome to this We pray for your son al-mog. Thank you so much. Thank you for talking to us. Thank you Thank you Now for more we welcome major general in the reserves yair golan former deputy chief of staff He joins us from moshav mev tachim in southern israel Thank you so much for joining us on this day a retired major general in the idf a former deputy chief of the idf Talk to us though about the 7th of october how you First heard about the unfolding terror attack and how you personally responded on that day As far as I remember rumors about the situation in the south It started around 6 30 I was awake at that time and after about two hours or three hours I understood that that's something really unusual is happening in the south And therefore I put on my uniforms and went straight away to the home front command headquarters located in ramla and then I asked Commanding officer of the home front command to give the personal envoy to the south and Here and there I got more and more messages about people who were Escaped from the nova festival and they asked for refuge in the in the bushes Around the location of the festival and I started to get Phone calls whether I can take them out of these bushes in the combat in the combatting area And that's what I did for about three times and Taking out six persons out of the bushes And all in all in three intervals And and that's it. In fact, you know the real heroes are those who managed to escape and show, you know much Much courage and Managed to save the life of their friends enormous courage enormous courage Indeed The true story I I was not involved in the fighting Again, uh, those who fought in the kibbutzim in the moshaveem those who fought in the sderot and the another fakin Those who managed to save their friends and they loved the family and these people are the true heroes of the october 7th Horrific day for the state of israel No doubt probably the most the most The most horrific one in our history And I think that right now we need to recover right to fight back To Change the situation in the gaza street entirely. It should be a demilitarized zone Right and we should bring back all our hostages and students possible Yeah, ear. I want to get to that but first you've been incredibly modest about what happened on the ground on that day You're getting phone calls from people saying, please help mark child. You're getting messages What is going through your mind? Did you have any idea of the scale of what was happening? You went and risked your own life to go and save other people Not really knowing exactly what was unfolding on the ground. Take us back if you can to what was going through your thoughts at that moment Look, I'm You know well experienced soldier. I fought a lot in my life so What I see was new in the scale, but not in nature So, uh, I managed to understand where is more dangerous where is less dangerous? And I found my way through the fields and the orchids in order to to reach those people who managed to escape and Again, you know from my from my perspective it was You know really my modest contribution to do overall chaos That was in the south at that terrible day Well, you certainly are being hailed as a hero and as some parents have said as an angel So we appreciate your modesty in describing exactly what unfolded a true story of survival You made mention of the future Your thoughts given your credentials on the ground, you know the region. Well this ground invasion said to be imminent It could be happening soon. Does israel need to wait your take on what should be happening on the ground? Well, I have no intention to go into, you know, operational Considerations. I think that the most important thing right now is to well define the goals of this war Uh, it's going to be a long war. It will take years to clean the Gaza St It's not then only a military effort. It's also a civilian effort diplomatic effort original effort and the international effort So therefore I would say it's really hard to define Whether we see We will see any kind of you know major operation inside the Gaza St I would say that the This is not the the right discussion right now Not uh, Israel not in israel and not elsewhere the most important thing I think for all citizens of israel The goals of the war and the first one is to free all our hostages. I think it's uh, unacceptable to leave these 220 persons Inside the Gaza St. We need to bring them back and all the rest. It's a matter of time and stamina and our willingness to live here safely And all our citizens no matter where need to feel secure In the state of israel the country salutes them to thank you so much and thank you again for your time Israelis held hostage in Gaza stepped up their pressure on the government this weekend to do Something even including a possible prison exchange to obtain their release now one can only imagine their agony One of those is moran aloni who has six family members presumed kidnapped by Hamas From kibbutz near o's that is his sister sharon aloni cuneo sharon's husband david and their twin three-year-old daughters Emma and julie along with aloni's oldest sister danielle aloni and her five-year-old daughter Amelia what joining us now is moran aloni Joining us from yavneh israel Moran, I can't I can't even imagine what you're going through Tell us about just the morning of october 7th. How it unfolded for you what you knew was happening for your family um We woke up to uh missile alarms here uh in in uh in yavneh and rechovot We immediately contact my my sister in in the in the family. What's up They said they are uh, they're in the safe room. They told that there were terrorists in the kibbutz They don't know anything else After about an hour. They said that they can hear the uh the terrorists on their neighbor house After another 30 minutes, we obviously you know communicating with them Trying to understand what what what's going on trying to contact other people military police wherever we know Um after another half an hour. They told us they they can hear the terrorists in in their house Yeah, and then for an hour and a half Uh about an hour and a half we didn't had any communication with them And then my sister sent a uh a what's up A voice message saying that they are burning the house And smoke is getting under the mamman the uh safe from door And that they don't know if they're going to make it and that they love us And uh 20 minutes after uh, she sent me a message After I also tried to get her location Uh, she sent me a message saying help. We're dying And uh these these were the uh The last two messages that I got from her on uh on on saturday um We we gathered some information during the next two days on our own part of from videos that we saw apart from um from from a survivor Uh article that that that we saw and then we talked with that's right So we understood that that people saw them in in in some places During these events all all six of your your family members were they were seen you go on okay Six of them and and uh, David little brother and his girlfriend as well, uh were kidnapped. Um, I think they're also kidnapped. I'm not sure if they are The clerk is missing or kidnapped but They're also not to be found uh and uh Six days later on on friday. We got an official message from the army saying that the All of the six were confirmed as as kidnapped um Since then we haven't heard any official news um We are you know bits and pieces of rumors But but nothing official and uh Based on all of the fake news that are Running, you know everywhere. I'm I'm trying to be to uh To attach myself to to official news. No, nothing else I just I mean This was a a float for your family so many members If I can just ask how how are you just dealing with it your family coping with uh dealing with this kind of Horrible unimaginable situation Uh, you're living your life um Frozen, you know, you can't uh think about anything you're not sure what tomorrow will bring You don't know if you'll see them tomorrow or you'll see three officers in your doorstep tomorrow And I think this is uh It's uh I can I I don't think that there is war to explain You know how it's like that Sure Such a big part of your family is just Gone and and you know, it's not even we don't It's a constant um grief because It it never ends it never ends for sure sure Let me ask you uh, we hear some of the hostages family speaking up Uh, especially in the last couple of days Speaking to the government and the Israeli public I want to ask you what your message is this evening on one level both for The Israeli government and the public here, but as you know, we are also an international channel with many viewers abroad What would be your message to the international community? As well using us as a platform I think that uh Most of the power in getting these hostages out tomorrow Lays in the hand of the international community. I think that the Israeli government I'm sure that the Israeli government and the Israeli army are doing The best they can uh both in in trying to negotiate or Thinking about how to negotiate the situation Uh in bringing all the hostages back Uh, but I think that the real power Lays at the international community. I think that the pressure that they can Put on uh, Katar Which we all know that are kind of managing Hamas Is the key to to release these uh, these hostages We first of all most the most important, uh, we wish a safe return A safe uh quick and healthy return of your sister's your brother-in-law and of course your your most and your nieces It's safe back home And we wish the best for you and your family. Thank you for joining us telling us your story And we are out of time for now. Just thanks for watching our best stuff Israel is in a state of war families completely Done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well For news's ongoing coverage of israel at war I'm ariel levin with a developing story a terror attack just south of jerusalem Three terrorists opened fire at a checkpoint the israeli police are saying that six israelis were shot And all of them were members of security forces at least one of them is in critical condition Three terrorists were neutralized on scene We found two long guns. We found pistols ammunition and other findings. All the findings were seized an identification Procedure will be carried out. We also identified two of them already working to identify another terrorist There are residents of hebron and we are continuing the treatment at the sea And witnesses captured the exact moment of the attack on these cell phone cameras in this battle You can see the gun battle between security forces and the terrorists in this video And we cross over as well to gaza where israeli forces are gaining ground in the south with a very important moral victory Hamas political leader ishmael honeys house destroyed in an airstrike The house is just one of many built with billions of dollars of stolen international made money But it served as a meeting place for senior hamas leadership Hamas has previously said that two of honeys other homes were destroyed But this is the first one that's been confirmed by israel The idf also showed evidence of hamas's militarizing hospitals across gaza in clear violation of all rules of war This was found at shefa hospital hamas weapons military equipment intelligence technologies And all of this comes after the idf already revealed a vast cache of explosives advanced weapons and hostage holding cells Found at their antici hospital just a few days earlier The idf announced that two more soldiers were killed in yesterday's fighting in the northern gaza strip Which brings the toll in the ground offensive to 50 For the americans part the administration is continuing to reject calls for a ceasefire Though they are pushing for more short-term humanitarian pauses biden said though the war will only end once hamas is made powerless Now for a more discussion on all of this We are joined in studio by martin himmel a political international security analyst as well as our senior defense correspondent jonathan reggaev jonathan i want to start with you just to follow up on what the latest developments were in that terror attack just south of jerusalem first i think we can say that that The the terror attack that they were planning was was a much bigger than what eventually happened They were heavily armed with uh automatic rifles with handguns with access that were found in their car So obviously the the intention was to carry out a major terror attack And this is also not a lone wolf attack And if these are not people that woke up this morning and said you know what? Let's let's go find and kill the first israeli that we see if you have a car with automatic rifles with handguns three people together And possibly double license plates so that they would not be Stopped along the way and maybe All that indicates that this is something that was pre-planned Organized for for at least a few days This is not just some lone wolf attack that originated this morning We're speaking of six people who have been taken Who've been injured From our shootings and have been taken to various hospitals in jerusalem the checkpoint just to the south of jerusalem And the three terrorists were killed, you know, we're focusing a lot on Gaza For obvious reasons the west bank has not gone anywhere Terror attacks originate there all the time and the israeli actions against them are ongoing all the time In the month and a half almost month and a half since this war began We're speaking of more than 100 terrorists killed in the west bank and more than one terrorist arrested in various israeli operations All around the west bank. It's not as if if one front is active The other one is not we're speaking of multiple front gaza The lebanon border and the west bank also being one of them It's not as if the israeli army can allocate all of the forces away from the west bank We saw this morning just one example plenty of terrorism there and this incident ending with Three terrorists killed six people injured one of them is in severe condition in a hospital in jerusalem the others also taken to hospitals in jerusalem in various Conditions and this attack could have been much much bigger and much worse If it wasn't for the very quick reaction of the who are all the people there in the checkpoint I'm going to point out for our audience the live images you were just seeing on screen Was the sight of that shooting attack what you're seeing right now the police Cordans in the area as they've wrapped up the area for the investigation Six people injured by gunfire as our defense correspondent said it could have been a lot worse It was good. They were stopped quickly three terrorists neutralized on scene Reporting that they were all shot dead But that is not entirely confirmed the full details of each of the terrorists just yet Jonathan i want to jump back to you for a moment Do we have any indication of who was behind the shooting attack and in earnest does it even matter? If it matters, I think no we have we have to remember when In Gaza, we're speaking clearly about Hamas and if it's not Hamas, it's Islamic jihad in the West Bank It's somewhat different. Yes, there are organizations But if we have seen something in the West Bank in the past say two years or so It's the fact that terrorists are not acting on behalf of the the known not always on on behalf of the known Terror organizations, but rather local organizations made up of people who belong to Hamas to islamic jihad even to fatah They're all coming up together and make up these these local terror gangs local criminals Terrorists from different organizations the lions then for example in in nablas. They were not directly associated with Hamas or really islamic jihad, but but but militants from from various organizations coming in together And who are these people their identities? We don't know yet, but it will be known quite soon And Does it really matter if they acted? On behalf of a local gang coming together or Hamas or islamic jihad? I think the answer is no these these are terrorists Which which have to be dealt with as they were and martin I want to tell you now because we are seeing the west bank start to flare up more and more every single day Israel doing these arrest rage and major security operations nightly to try to stop it from Just igniting entirely ultimately is this almost a lost cause at this point? Is it still possible to keep some level of control in peace or control anyway in the west bank? I think the west bank is basically Trying to hold a status quo trying to keep the the amount of confrontations as low as possible Trying to keep it at a low burn rate if you want to call it that With the vast majority the focus being on Gaza and of course the north with his bella The I believe the Israeli Decision makers think that if there's a clear cut Win in Gaza it will have political and defensive implications on the west bank as well I'm not so sure of that by the way, but It's that's the contention right now and that it's fundamentally under control even though there are these eruptions of terrorism So the focus really is still on Gaza per se and one one interesting thing to note about the west bank And it's controlled by the Palestinian Authority who are far from being in love with Hamas The I don't think the Palestinian Authority. Mahmoud Abbas is very sad to see Hamas and islamic jihad terrorists being arrested every day or taken away every day They're doing what they can to preserve the status quo. They're not going to to Suddenly do everything that is in in Israel's interest, but they are keeping the status quo the the the current situation Maintaining it as much as they can. Let's remember the vast majority of the population in the west bank. They're not interested in terrorism Yes, there are enough terrorists that have to be taken care of a large number of them But a lot of the population are They're wishing to keep the situation as it is I want to actually turn our eye to the Gaza front now Because one of the things that we're seeing is the idea that this war will go long and there's massive international pressure to Possibly end that from the europeans I don't want to focus on some of biden's statements so last night We said this war is not over until Hamas no longer has the ability to commit murder rape torture and all of these Foul acts you saw on october 7th Ultimately, it sounds like the united states is saying that they are not going to support any sort of humanitarian Taub pause stretching into a ceasefire And does this change the calculus that israel's military leaders have to make I don't really think so I think what biden is saying is that he recognizes israel has a right to maintain some sort of offensive Whatever that the proportions of that offensive are we're not exactly sure but to maintain An offensive until hamas doesn't have the capabilities that it did have What capabilities it'll be left with remains to be seen I don't think if hamas becomes a guerrilla organization that operates something like the west bank I don't think that biden's going to be in favor of A continuing israeli overt presence in in gaza I think the the for now They will maintain it as long as the death count with the palestinian civilians doesn't Skyrocket exponentially The real issue will be I believe when there is that gray area where hamas is not firing rockets necessarily every day into israel maybe an occasional one Might have somebody who sneaks to the border and fires across it. Is that still warfare? Is that not warfare to is it does this will have the right to keep troops in gaza? Does it not I think that's going to be the The focal point in the flashpoint until then I think israel has got a green light from the united states We're actually going to take a quick look at the southern border. Thank you very much for your analysis, especially you jonathan We're going to be coming back to you as well martin in a moment But first our correspondent pier closure is standing by in southern israel just outside of stir at the border there Pierre can you walk us through what the latest developments are? Right din bain boy my cameraman is going to walk you through What we see from the gaza border on the northern sector of the gaza strip You see from left to right on your monitor First bombing in jebalia the refugee camp which is on the northern outskirts of gaza city And then there are focal points which are sporadically bombed the vicinity of the indonesia hospital Which is uh in the center of what din is showing you and this is One of the next praise of the israeli army to take over the hospital But first they work very carefully. They try to extricate The patients the medical personnel and the people that have sick shelter inside the hospital compound And then you can see this heavy black shadow Weighing on gaza And this is due to the Relentless bombardments of terror targets in the northern sector now what we don't see here on the monitor is The fact that there are heavy fighting in one of the universities of gaza city as well as in the marina of gaza city where 10 terrorists were neutralized earlier and the coordinator of activities with avila palestinians from the israeli ministry of defense As again reopened the safe passage corridor the on the salahadin access East of gaza city in addition from 9 a.m. To 4 p.m. For seven hours and in addition tactical humanitarian poses Have been set up by the idf on two neighborhoods of gaza city she's aya and the turkman neighborhood And in addition they're urging the population of The center and east of gaza city such as tel el hawa and daraj to far sejaya To join the cohorts of non-involved Displaced palestinians and move south of the river of gaza city but given that The idf also dropped flyers overnight on east hanunas in the central sector of the gaza strip uh on villages such as carara rudara and another one and urge them to move to shelter southwards that would presume that maybe The ground operation that started on october 27 and focused only on the northern gaza strip including gaza city Will expand and enlarge to the central sector of the gaza strip hanunas especially and the central refugee camps such as new serat direl bala El borage which are hot spots of hamas presence and palestinian islamic jihad presence We're definitely describing weeks of hard fighting ahead for the idf pier. Thank you very much for the updates from the ground We are going to return to the studio with martin himmel for a little bit longer All this is happening as the israeli government tries to buy time by extending further and further humanitarian aid and supplies Into gaza to extend the operational window they have and to reduce pressure from the united states Ultimately, one of the questions we have to ask is not just the united states But also europe with their own internal pressures. How much time can israel really buy here? i think that uh Judging from what we've seen in the past Uh, unless there's going to be a massive upsurge in more killing with the civilians that is what could buy quite a bit of time and it seems to be that a lot of the fighting now is becoming more focused more Specific to certain areas and that probably will exact a lower casualty count among civilians The brunt of the outcry the brunt of the demonstrations has happened already And there is an element of getting used to the situation So while it's not pleasant while it's not good and while the outcry will continue I think that uh The the vast amount of pressure has already been exercised and it hasn't stopped the offensive yet And I don't think it will stop it in the future if it maintains this course But we have statements coming like just introduced the other day which got so much backlash recused israel of killing babies killing civilians and certainly we have support from the united states But we still have this sort of pushback. We're seeing from canada from nations in europe Ultimately, how much of a say are they going to have in this? Well, they haven't cut different decorations. They haven't cut economic relations. They haven't cut bilateral ties There's a lot of verbal saber rattling going along You know in canada for example, which I know very well being a canadian Is there's a very large muslim muslim constituency. He has to consider that voting constituency as well He's trying to do a balancing act between the the jewish Presence and the muslim presence in canada. It's not simple for him as well So verbal saber rattling goes up to a certain point. It's not going to significantly affect israeli policy Absolutely, but that's so we have seen some nations that have decided to cut relations largely less relevant nations in latin america Is there any indication that might extend to maybe not relevant nations? But nations that are slightly more important than the ones we've seen so far They might get you know, south africa's reduced relations. I could lead to a cut, but I'd be surprised russia has tilted completely the other way for very Specific reasons that are not just because of israel because it's war with the west I don't see the significant countries in europe or in the west Uh Downgrading their relations with israel if it hasn't happened yet. I don't think it's going to happen And we're going to continue some more discussion on these topics But first we are going to turn our eye to israel's northern border where correspondent zack anders is standing by zack Can you give us the latest developments from the north? Within the last hour another red alert for the border community of stula This is coming in as we were hearing what appeared to be jets overhead now He can't necessarily pin that down or correlate that to any one thing but the idf is saying that they have noticed or Recorded some level of activity along the border once again this morning and that they are Urging at least stula those people to stay indoors the ones that haven't evacuated that red alert there So we're still waiting to learn exactly what has happened within the last hour or if the idf has Come under fire return fire. We just don't know at this point Well, thank you very much zack for that report from the north as the situation there develops If we see any major developments over the course of the day We will come back to you to understand just what's going on But we have to understand whose hand has been behind all of this since the very beginning That is of course iran who has given money to just about every single militia and terror organization in the region With the hopes of destroying israel now for more on this We are going to be joined by dr. Mayor java dan far iran lecturer from reichmann university joining us from televive Thank you very much dr. Jenna java dan far for joining us I want to start with the big one we saw that meeting between hamas and iran yesterday Where iran told hamas that well, they're pretty much on their own because they took things into their own hands They didn't consult with them. Is iran ultimately reconsidering its position in this war or at least its timing First of all, it's theatrics. I don't believe it for a minute that I told how many is left Hamas on its own Iran sees itself as the leader of Of a defense pact has a Cold axis of resistance It has militias in in gaza in west bank in iraq in lebanon and in jemen This is iran sees itself. He sees this as its version of nato And you know just as america is the leader of nato iran sees itself as the leader of this alliance taxes of resistance So it's iran is not going to leave hamas on its own. This is why we see the hooties firing at israel This is why we see hezbollah. It's um becoming involved in this war even though israel never attacked hezbollah on on october 7th And what I find even more unbelievable is I told how many saying we had absolutely no idea that you are going to do this I mean in terms of the timing Look, we have to remember that there were long There was a very lengthy negotiations going on between iran and the us over iran getting access to six billion dollars Of its finances frozen in south korea And also did the release of iranian hostages iranian prisoners in return for us hostages in iran. These were very delicate Negotiations, I think it's extremely unlikely that ayatollah. How many would have allowed hamas To carry out when they attack whenever he wanted because if hamas had carried out this attack during the negotiations with iran It was scuttled iran's access. It would torpedo the iran's access to six billion dollars So I don't think yeah, I don't also don't expect the iranian How many claimed that iran did not know about the timing of this attack Well, given that iran will not be abandoning hamas regardless of what they said with hamas looking like it could be facing Its final defeat in gaza at the hands of israel What options will iran exercise to prevent that? That's a very good question. And I think We have the possibility we because the Yemenis the Yemenis are going to keep firing at us Especially because we have not fired back at the Houthis in Yemen. This is probably due to other considerations We are focusing on gaza. I think it's a matter of time before israel Resettles its deterrence against the the Houthis in Yemen We're going to see more we're going to see more attacks from lebanon, especially I think the iranians are Actually more apprehensive about using syria interestingly because The according to newspaper reports israel has stopped coordinating its attacks with russian forces Before when israel was about to attack targets in syria Israel would tell russian forces to evacuate the area, but apparently this is stopped now I think this has raised the the concern for the russians that allowing iran to carry out Many attacks from syria could actually lead to israel counter strikes that could threaten their forces So I think now there's a focuses on on lebanon. I think could see more attacks from lebanon There could be attacks from syria, but probably less than from from lebanon And also I think we have not seen any force attacks from iraqi territory But I I think it's a question of time. I really think it's a question of time because look iran is about to lose Gaza And this would mean the loss of tens of billions of dollars if not hundreds but probably tens Of billions of dollars of investment in Gaza and losing that Would be very very costly For the iranians and they're going to try their best to pressure israel to pull its forces to By attacking it on other fronts in order to pull to force israel to pull its forces away from gaza But to be honest with you, I don't think it's going to happen I'll end this interview by saying that israel was not the only country that had intelligence failure On the 6th on the 7th of october. So did iran. I think the iranians did not expect such Israeli retaliation and u.s Support in response to the hamas attack And I want to just let our audience know there's some breaking news with rocket sirens going off on the southern border May I do want to come back to you for one question because one of these things we've seen with iran's actions It's it's always via proxies disposable catspots. These assets are ultimately disposable to iran So what options are there for stopping iran from funding these assets? They're not disposable They are not disposable. They are very important Assets in terms of iran's security doctrine in the middle east and his power projection Um, look the iranians keep using them because uh mesenet anyahu You know he abandoned the prime minister naftali benets octopus doctrine The octopus doctrine man. They said that instead of attacking the tentacles of the octopus, which are iran's proxy forces We should attack the head of the octopus, which is iran itself according to Many newspaper articles published abroad. There were many attacks during prime minister benets Ten years prime minister against iranian targets inside iran and we didn't see any retaliation Number one because the iranians were surprised and number two Unlike mr. Netanyahu mr. Benet did not challenge half of the country by with his with a with a judicial reform program Netanyahu did this so a combination of netanyahu ending all alleged attacks against iranian targets inside iran and dividing the country in an unprecedented manner with his judicial reform really Basically encouraged the iranians to use their proxy force in an unprecedented and a bloody attack on the 7th of october Does that mean it's too late to return to that sort of doctrine that might actually deter iran? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. We just need a government that is more concerned about the the security of israel Than than a judicial reform program and the survival of a prime minister who's been indicted three times Well, it's definitely a major security challenge moving forward. Thank you very much dr. Jeva den far for an analysis of well what iran's interests and abilities are I'm going to turn back just a couple of last words from uh you Martin because we are hearing this all coming at the same time has this Massive vote of no confidence being proposed here in israel against prime minister netanyahu is that going to change things Well, uh, just to look at the sober political reality. I don't think so In order to have that kind of change you need, uh, I think over 10 liqud members to To basically bail out of the party or to vote against the party so far. I don't see that on the horizon So it's all words at this stage It's criticism. It's words to try to Basically shake confidence to government, but I don't see any big change in the near future Well, definitely got a lot of challenges both inside and outside of israel as we move forward for everyone else Though we are just about out of time at least for now But we will see you again in just about a half hour at the beginning of our 12 o'clock broadcast So we'll be back with you very soon until then. Thanks for watching Israel is in a state of war families completely Done down in their beds. We have no idea where she has our soldiers are fighting on the front lines But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well For news's ongoing coverage of israel at war. I'm ariel levin wallman We're opening with a developing story a terror attack just south of jr. Slum Three terrorists opened fire at a checkpoint the israeli police are saying that six israelis were shot And all of them were members of security forces at least one of them is in critical condition Three terrorists were neutralized on scene We found two long guns. We found pistols ammunition and other findings all the findings were seized an identification Procedure will be carried out. We also identified two of them already working to identify another terrorist there are residents of hebron and we are continuing the treatment at the sea And witnesses captured the exact moment of the attack on these cell phone cameras in this battle You can see the gun battle between security forces and the terrorists in this video And we cross over as well to gaza where israeli forces are gaining ground in the south with a very important moral victory Hamas political leader ishmael nia's house destroyed in an airstrike That's just one of many built with billions of dollars of stolen international made money But it served as a meeting place for senior hamas leadership Hamas has previously said that two of hania's other homes were destroyed But this is the first one that's been confirmed by israel The IDF also showed evidence of hamas's militarizing hospitals across gaza in clear violation of all rules of war This was found at shefa hospital hamas weapons military equipment intelligence technologies And all of this comes after the IDF already revealed a vast case of explosives advanced weapons and hostage holding cells Found at their enticee hospital just a few days earlier The IDF announced that two more soldiers were killed in yesterday's fighting in the northern gaza strip Which brings the toll in the ground offensive to 50 For the americans part the administration is continuing to reject calls for a ceasefire Though they are pushing for more short term humanitarian pauses biden said though the war will only end once hamas is made powerless Now for a more discussion on all of this We are joined in studio by martin himmel a political and international security analyst as well as our senior defense correspondent jonathan reggae jonathan i want to start with you just to follow up on what the latest developments were in that terror attack just south of jerusalem first I think we can say that that The the terror attack that they were planning was was a much bigger than what eventually happened They were heavily armed with Automatic rifles with handguns with axes that were found in their car So obviously the the intention was to carry out a major terror attack And this is also not a lone wolf attack And if these are not people that woke up this morning and said you know what? Let's let's go find and kill the first israeli that we see If you have a car with automatic rifles with handguns three people together And possibly a double license plate so that they would not be Stopped along the way and maybe All that indicates that this is something that was pre-planned Organized for at least a few days This is not just some lone wolf attack that originated this morning. We're speaking of six people who have been taken Who've been injured from shootings and have been taken to various hospitals in Jerusalem the checkpoint just to the south of jerusalem And the three terrorists were killed, you know, we're focusing a lot on Gaza For obvious reasons the west bank has not gone anywhere Terror attacks originate there all the time and the israeli actions against them are ongoing all the time In the month and a half almost one and a half since this war began We're speaking of more than 100 terrorists killed in the west bank and more than one terrorist arrested in various israeli operations All around the west bank It's not as if if one front is active the other one is not we're speaking of multiple fronts gaza The lebanon border and the west bank also being one of them It's not as if the israeli army can allocate all of the forces away from the west bank We saw this morning just one example plenty of terrorism there and this incident ending with Three terrorists killed six people injured one of them is in severe condition in a hospital in Jerusalem The others also taken to hospitals in Jerusalem in various conditions And this attack could have been much much bigger and much worse If it wasn't for the very quick reaction of the who are all the people there in the checkpoint I'm going to point out for our audience the live images you were just seeing on screen Was the sight of that shooting attack what you're seeing right now the police Cordans in the area as they've wrapped up the area for the investigation Six people injured by gunfire as our defense correspondent said it could have been a lot worse It was good. They were stopped quickly three terrorists neutralized on scene Reporting that they were all shot dead But that is not entirely confirmed the full details of each of the terrorists just yet Jonathan I want to jump back to you for a moment. Do we have any indication of who was behind the shooting attack? And in earnest does it even matter? If it matters, I think no We have we have to remember when in Gaza we're speaking clearly about Hamas And if it's not Hamas, it's Islamic jihad in the west bank. It's somewhat different. Yes There are organizations But if we have seen something in the west bank in the past say two years or so It's the fact that Terrorists are not acting on behalf of the the known not always on on behalf of the known Terror organizations, but rather local organizations made up of people who belong to Hamas to Islamic jihad even to Fatah They're all coming up together and make up these these local terror gangs local criminals Terrorists from different organizations the lions then for example in in Nablus They were not directly associated with the Hamas or really Islamic jihad But but but militants from from various organizations coming in together And who are these people their identities? We don't know yet, but it will be known quite soon And Does it really matter if they acted? On behalf of a local gang coming together or Hamas or Islamic jihad I think the answer is no these these are terrorists Which which have to be dealt with as they were and Martin I want to tell you now because we are seeing the west bank start to flare up more and more every single day Israel doing these arrest rage and major security operations nightly to try to stop it from Just igniting entirely ultimately is this almost a lost cause at this point? Is it still possible to keep some level of control and peace or control anyway in the west bank? I think the west bank is basically Trying to hold a status quo trying to keep the the amount of confrontations as low as possible Trying to keep it At a low burn rate if you want to call it that With the vast majority of the focus being on Gaza and of course the north with his Bala I They I believe the Israeli decision makers think that if there's a clear cut Win in Gaza it will have political and defensive implications on the west bank as well I'm not so sure of that by the way, but It's that's the contention right now and that it's fundamentally under control even though there are these eruptions of terrorism So the focus really is still on Gaza per se And one one interesting thing to note about the west bank It's controlled by the Palestinian Authority who are far from being in love with Hamas The I don't think the Palestinian Authority. Mahmoud Abbas is very sad to see In Hamas and islamic jihad terrorists being arrested every day or taken away every day They're doing what they can to preserve the status quo. They're not going to Suddenly do everything that is in in Israel's interest, but they are keeping the status quo the the the the current situation Maintaining it as much as they can. Let's remember the vast majority of the population in the west bank They're not interested in terrorism. Yes, there are enough terrorists that have to be taken care of a large number of them But a lot of the population are are the they're wishing to keep the situation as it is I want to actually turn our eye to the Gaza front now Martin because one of the things that we're seeing is the idea that this war will go long and there's massive international pressure to Possibly end that from the Europeans. I don't want to focus on some of biden's statements. So last night We said this war is not over until Hamas no longer has the ability to commit murder rape torture And all of these foul acts you saw on october 7th Ultimately, it sounds like the united states is saying that they are not going to support Any sort of humanitarian pause stretching into a ceasefire? And does this change the calculus that israel's military leaders have to make I don't really think so I think what biden is saying is that he recognizes israel has the right to maintain some sort of offensive Whatever that the proportions of that offensive are we're not exactly sure but to maintain An offensive until Hamas doesn't have the capabilities that it did have What capabilities it'll be left with remains to be seen? I don't think if Hamas becomes a guerrilla organization that operates something like the west bank I don't think that biden's going to be in favor of A continuing israeli overt presence in in gaza I think the the for now They will maintain it as long as the death count with the palestinian civilians doesn't skyrocket exponentially The real issue will be I believe when there is that Gray area where Hamas is not firing rockets necessarily every day into israel Maybe an occasional one Might have somebody who sneaks to the border and fires across it. Is that still warfare? Is that not warfare to his does this will have the right to keep troops in gaza? Does it not I think that's going to be the The focal point and the flashpoint until then I think israel's got a green light from the united states We're actually going to take a quick look at the southern border. Thank you very much for your analysis, especially you jonathan We're going to be coming back to you as well martin in a moment But first our correspondent pierre cloche and there is standing by in southern israel just outside of stir at the border there pierre, can you walk us through what the latest developments are? Right din bain boy my cameraman is going to walk you through What we see from the gaza border on the northern sector of the gaza strip You see from Left to right on your monitor First bombing in jibalia the refugee camp which is on the northern outskirts of gaza city And then there are focal points which are sporadically bombed the vicinity of the indonesia hospital which is in the center of what din is showing you and this is One of the next praise of the israeli army to take over the hospital But first they work very carefully. They try to extricate The patients the medical personnel and the people that have sick shelter inside the hospital compound And then you can see this heavy black shadow Weighing on gaza And this is due to the Relentless Bombardments of terror targets in the northern sector now what we don't see here on the monitor is The fact that there are heavy fighting in one of the universities of gaza city As well as in the marina of gaza city where 10 terrorists were neutralized earlier And the coordinator Of activities with avila palestinians from the israeli ministry of defense as again reopened the safe passage corridor the on the salah had in access east of gaza city in addition from 9 a.m To 4 p.m for seven hours and in addition tactical humanitarian poses have been set up By the idf on two neighborhoods of gaza city She's a ya and the turkman neighborhood And in addition they're urging the population of The center and east of gaza city such as tel el hawa and daraj to far She's a ya to join the cohorts of non-involved Displaced palestinians and move south of the river of gaza city But given that The idf also dropped flyers overnight on east hanunas in the central sector of the gaza strip uh on villages such as carara rudara and uh Another one and urge them to move to shelter southwards That would presume that maybe The ground operation that started on october 27 and focused only on the northern gaza strip including gaza city Will expand and enlarge to the central sector Of the gaza strip hanunas especially and the central refugee camps such as new serat dir el bala El bourrage which are hot spots of hamas presence and palestinian islamic jihad presence We're definitely describing weeks of hard fighting ahead for the idf pier. Thank you very much for the updates from the ground We are going to return to the studio with martin himmel for a little bit longer All this is happening as the israeli government tries to buy time by extending further and further humanitarian aid And supplies into gaza to extend the operational window They have and to reduce pressure from the united states Ultimately one of the questions we have to ask is not just the united states But also europe with their own internal pressures. How much time can israel really buy here? i think that uh Judging from what we've seen in the past Unless there's going to be a massive upsurge in more killing with the civilians that is what could buy quite a bit of time and it seems to be that a lot of the fighting now is becoming more focused more Specific to certain areas and that probably will exact a lower casualty count among civilians The brunt of the outcry the brunt of the demonstrations has happened already And there is an element of getting used to the situation So while it's not pleasant while it's not good and while the outcry will continue I think that uh, the the vast amount of pressure has already been exercised and it hasn't stopped The offensive yet and I don't think it will stop it in the future if it maintains this course But we have statements coming like just introduced the other day which got so much backlash recused israel of Killing babies killing civilians and certainly we have support from the united states But we still have this sort of pushback. We're seeing from canada from nations in europe Ultimately, how much of a say are they going to have in this? Well, they haven't cut different decorations. They haven't cut economic relations. They haven't cut bilateral ties There's a lot of verbal saber rattling going along Uh, you know in canada for example, which I know very well being a canadian Is there's a very large muslim muslim constituency has to consider that voting constituency as well He's trying to do a balancing act between the the jewish Presence and the muslim presence in canada. It's not simple for him as well So verbal saber rattling goes up to a certain point. It's not going to significantly affect israeli policy Absolutely, but that's so we have seen some nations that have decided to cut relations largely less relevant nations in latin america Is there any indication that might extend to maybe not relevant nations? But nations that are slightly more important than the ones we've seen so far They might get, you know, south africa's reduced relations. It could lead to a cut, but i'd be surprised russia has tilted completely the other way for very Specific reasons that are not just because of israel because it's war with the west I don't see the significant countries in europe or in the west Downgrading their relations with israel if it hasn't happened yet. I don't think it's going to happen And we're going to continue some more discussion on these topics But first we are going to turn our eye to israel's northern border where correspondent zack anders is standing by zack Can you give us the latest developments from the north? Within the last hour another red alert for the border community of stula This coming in as we were hearing what appeared to be jets overhead now You can't necessarily pin that down or correlate that to any one thing But the idf is saying that they have noticed or Recorded some level of activity along the border once again this morning and that they are Urging at least stula those people to stay indoors the ones that haven't evacuated that red alert there So we're still waiting to learn exactly what has happened within the last hour or if the idf has Come under fire return fire. We just don't know at this point Well, thank you very much zack for that report from the north as the situation there develops if we see any major developments Over the course of the day, we will come back to you to understand just what's going on But we have to understand whose hand has been behind all of this since the very beginning That is of course iran who has given money to just about every single militia and terror organization in the region With the hopes of destroying israel now for more on this We are going to be joined by dr. Mayor java danfar iran lecturer from reichman university joining us from televieve Thank you very much dr. Jenna java danfar for joining us I want to start with the big one. We saw that meeting between hamas and iran yesterday Where iran told hamas that well, they're pretty much on their own because they took things into their own hands They didn't consult with them. Is iran ultimately reconsidering its position in this war or at least its timing Personally, it's theatrics. I don't believe it for a minute that i told how many is left hamas on its own um iran sees itself as the leader of Of a defense pact has a Called the axis of resistance It has militias in in gaza in west bank in iraq in lebanon and in jemen This is iran sees itself. He sees this as its version of nato And you know just as america is the leader of nato Iran sees itself as the leader of this alliance taxes of resistance So it's iran is not going to leave hamas on its own. This is why we see the hooties firing at israel This is why we see hezbollah. It's um becoming involved in this war Even though israel never attacked hezbollah on on october 7th And what i find even more unbelievable is i told how many saying we had absolutely no idea that you were going to do this I mean in terms of the timing Look, we have to remember that they were long. There was a very lengthy negotiations going on between iran and the us over Iran getting access to six billion dollars Of its finances frozen in south korea And also did the release of iranian hostages Iranian prisoners in return for us hostages in iran. These were very delicate Negotiations I think it's extremely unlikely that i told how many would have allowed hamas To carry out when they attack whenever it wanted because if If hamas had carried out this attack during the negotiations with iran It was scuttled iran's access. It would torpedo the iran's access to six billion dollars. So I don't think I also don't expect the iranian How many claimed that iran did not know about the timing of this attack Well, given that iran will not be abandoning hamas regardless of what they said with hamas Looking like it could be facing its final defeat in gaza at the hands of israel What options will iran exercise to prevent that? That's a very good question. And I think We have the possibility we because the yemenis the yemenis are going to keep firing at us Especially because we have not fired back at the houthis in yemen. This is probably due to other considerations We are focusing on gaza. I think it's a matter of time before israel Resettles its deterrence against the the houthis in yemen. We're going to see more We're going to see more attacks from lebanon, especially I think the iranians are Actually more apprehensive about using syria interestingly because The according to newspaper reports israel has stopped coordinating its attacks with russian forces Before when israel was about to attack targets in syria israel would tell russian forces to evacuate the area But apparently this is stopped now I think this has raised the the concern for the russians that allowing iran to carry out Many attacks from syria could actually lead to israel counter strikes that could threaten their forces So I think now there's a focus on on lebanon. I think we could see more attacks from lebanon There could be attacks from syria, but probably less than from From lebanon And also, I think we have not seen any force attacks from iraqi territory, but I I think it's a question of time I really think it's a question of time because look iran is about to lose Gaza And this would mean the loss of tens of billions of dollars if not hundreds but probably tens Of billions of dollars of investment in gaza and losing that Uh would be very very costly For the iranians and they're going to try their best to pressure israel to pull its forces to By attacking it on other fronts in order to pull to force israel to pull its forces away from gaza But um to be honest with you, I don't think it's going to happen I'll end this interview by saying that israel was not the only country that had intelligence failure On the 6th on the 7th of october, so did iran. I think the iranians did not expect such israeli retaliation and u.s Support in response to the hamas attack And I want to just let our audience know there's some breaking news with rocket sirens going off on the southern border May I do want to come back to you for one question because one of these things we've seen with iran's actions It's it's always via proxies disposable catspots. These assets are ultimately disposable to iran So what options are there for stopping iran from funding these assets? They're not disposable They are not disposable. They are very important Assets in terms of iran's security doctrine in the middle east and his power projection Um, look the iranians keep using them because uh, mesenet anyahu You know he abandoned the prime minister naftali benets octopus doctrine Doctor put doctrine man. They said that instead of attacking the tentacles of the octopus, which are iran's proxy forces We should attack the head of the octopus, which is iran itself according to Many newspaper articles published abroad. There were many attacks during prime minister benets tenure as prime minister against iranian targets inside iran and we didn't see any Retaliation number one because the iranians were surprised and number two Unlike mr. Netanyahu. Mr. Bennett did not challenge half of the country by with his uh with a with a judicial reform program Netanyahu did this so a combination of netanyahu ending all alleged attacks against iranian targets inside iran and dividing the country in an unprecedented manner with this judicial reform really Um, uh, basically encouraged the iranians to use their proxy force in an unprecedented and a bloody attack on the 7th of october Does that mean it's too late to return to that sort of doctrine that might actually deter iran? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. We just need a government that is more concerned about the security of israel Than than a judicial reform program and the survival of a prime minister who has been indicted three times Well, it's definitely a major security challenge moving forward. Thank you very much dr Jeva Danvar for an analysis of well, what iran's interests and abilities are I'm gonna turn back just a couple of last words from uh, you Martin because we are hearing this all coming at the same time has this massive uh, Vote of no confidence being proposed here in israel against prime minister netanyahu is that going to change things Well, uh, just to look at the sober political reality I don't think so in order to have that kind of change you need, uh, I think over 10 liqud members to To basically bail out of the party or to vote against the party So far, I don't see that on the horizon. So it's all words at this stage It's criticism. It's words to try to uh, Basically shake confidence the government, but I don't see any big change in the near future