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Yeah, see we've done we've done the humans We did humans. We did the aliens. We did aliens and All kinds of things there last time bad guys Um Now anybody that wasn't basically human and now we're going into the really the mainstay of As far as I'm concerned what has become pretty much the mainstay of the Marvel universe We're gonna be talking mutants today Mutants and more mutants, that's right basically The whole mutant thing probably started with the X-Men Yes, the X-Men back when they first started in the early 60s after they after Marvel God Oh, well, they got the fantastic four out there and pretty much some a lot of their well They're current main characters that are still around now. They they started with this X-Men thing and basically What you have here were um five teenagers who went to Charles Xavier school for exceptional Persons now, that's that's not exactly what it is Basically the school in upstate New York that um Charles, well, let me see if I can get a good picture of dr. Charles Xavier here for you This Charles Xavier is this the bald-headed guy in a wheelchair and his Main thing is well, let's see here's like a there's a good nice group shot nice group shot here I don't know how nice it'll show up, but it's a nice group shot and Charles Xavier is the guy here in the middle in the wheelchair so um He gets together these exceptional youths and by exceptional he has the ability to Detect mutants, which is basically what these X-Men are the X being the This X gene that they have in their makeup that um gives them their mutant abilities now. I have a question now I'll say this right in I've said this thing before when we've been doing Marvel Comics. I Don't read a lot of Marvel Comics, which is why Wilbur does a lot of the talking during these episodes I'm kind of playing kind of like the person who comes in and doesn't know a lot So I'm gonna ask you this um Is there is there a reason that like if all these people like gotten near radiation or what's the reason? Why I mean is is it just like stress brings out this is this X gene or they've ever explained? Why there are just so many darn mutants in the Marvel universe a good question Let's find out okay basically, I'm looking at it as being something that um Might have had might it could have had some good drawbacks to um. Oh, I don't know um Atomic testing and things like that, but it might have affected the parents and so When they had the offspring the offspring had this extra gene in there right it's which Develops into a mutant ability and it may have something to do with radiation They never really went back and said exactly what it is But that's kind of my feeling just from the time that the things were written that they started off I mean they're still going on now, but it's just the idea the first ones You know that um there might have been something to do with the radiation in there now There's probably some expert out there on Marvel comics right now that's watching this and they're gonna they're gonna write a letter and say no No, no, no, no, but anyway, that's that's kind of my theory just based on the the time that okay, they started off here anyway and as I guess I've said before um the mutant ability is something that these people were born with and Then as they get older It kind of comes to the fore kind of like if you have an allergy You're pretty much born with it, but as you get older it Makes itself known right and so that's pretty much how these mutant abilities do as they go grow older It develops and then it finally hits one point where it finally kicks in and so um That's it, but basically they started off with um five students that came to the school there was um Scott Summers who As well anybody that knows the mutants know is Cyclops he has the ability to shoot i-beams out through Playing along at home, but probably not There's i-beams coming out of here I Beams I mean anyway And he's pretty much the The team leader of the X. Oh, that's a nice one. Yeah, there you go Okay, he's kind of the team leader off and on of the X-Men at least of the early early X-Men the early incarnation of the X-Men Scott Summers there was Hank oh Well, well, let's just call him Hank because I can't remember what Hank's last name is and he became known as the beast kind of because of the well his mutant ability is the that he can cling to things and he's very athletic and Ain't just like clock crawl up a wall almost like spider-man yet He really uses on the cracks that are in the wall But any wall has enough cracks in it that he can okay gain a hold on and then he's very athletic And he can flip around his stuff. He was a gymnast really in school and so that's that There is Warren Warren well Warren Worthington the third or something like that And he's angel. He's called angel. He has these wings on his back that Come pop out and he can fly around Let's see go back to this picture or again Love well, there's there's like a Nice picture there and kind of shows his wings, of course, we're real far away. So I don't think you'll see him as well, but There's moving even close. Okay here. Here's Mr. Warren Worthington the third there and Now wasn't there another I'm thinking there was another character called the angel Like back in the 40s. I'm trying to find a reference to him, but it is quite possible there That is quite possible And he was well, he looks kind of like a snowman down here really but he's ice man and so he's Known now he can um There we go lower his body temperature immensely there And he was a 40s character Timely which became Marvel so I'm guessing okay that might be some there may well even be some sort of connection between this guy That's quite possible. They probably rehashed the name, you know And they like you say it it could be something could be like a grandfather or something. There you go Okay, but ice man he can lower his body temperature and actually Hurls no balls or ice balls or something like that He can create ice flows that he can travel on he can skate around and things freeze the ground around him And really kind of a formidable guy. Just don't get him around heat That's a problem then there's Jean Marvel girl and her ability she has Telekinetic abilities and she can also read minds and Things like that, but um, it's pretty much if you were a female Superhero back then you had to have some sort of telepathic powers because you didn't see the girls going out and punching out guys Right now super villains. You just didn't see it. I mean nobody did that then Exactly sue sue Richards had her invisible she turned invisible and she could create force field right and it was basically defensive type powers Yes, yeah, exactly And Jean can well she has these telekinetic abilities and she can also read minds. It's like she and Charles Xavier Well Charles can just read everybody's mind. He has just the greatest brain in the world That's his mutin ability a great brain ability and Then he has this computer that helps him to detect mutants but before he was kind of doing it himself and then he can Telepathically send messages this x-men I need you or something there's danger hurry and anyway, so um Back in the days he kind of had a thing for Jean but as time goes on Jean and and Scott got together and they're pretty much a Main couple in the the X world the X universe there, okay? And well they got to one point Where let's see Let's delve here a little delving into history History of the official handbook of the marvel this is the third Of the official handbooks the first being a paperback the second one being all in comic book form This one is loose leaf notebook form Now now this is something I want to mention just in the format of this now This is not at all a cut on marvel because both dc and marvel do this all the time. Yes, but I think I think that dc did the loose leaf who's who type thing just before marvel did this Yes, it's like they feed off each other all the time All right, somebody somebody came up with the idea and the other one said oh Hey, that's a good idea. Let's do it too. So let's do it too. But who who thought up the thing first, right? We don't know but marlton did marlton did punisher dc did lobo When we'll we'll compare and contrast these characters as as we go on but okay the first makeup was pretty much, um The five as I'd mentioned. Oh, this is glossy. So I don't know if that's the odds of this really picking up Oh, that's that's good. Okay. That does real good and there's mr. Great brain himself right up here and down here. We have mimic who kind of showed up one time and he had Everybody's powers all in one guy and but I think he died or something Too useful. Let's get rid of it. And so um, let's see here. We had There's several others who kind of show up and well, let's see as time went on they got more characters. Um Havoc who can Use sound waves to create earthquakes lorna dain. Well, I just don't know what she did Let's find out here lorna dain Don't know okay Changeling now changely is an interesting one. He can take on the form of anybody else Which is which is kind of useful powers. Um, no No, he just just tricks people into thinking they're them Yeah, james. He was a former adversary of the x-men actually and um He discovered he was dying of cancer. He shot the reform and so um He goes through all this stuff and well actually he did finally die. Anyway, so That was kind of their second lineup. They just got in these new characters their third lineup. Well, let's see We're introduced to Colossus who is like a he's a russian guy p pieter A lot of Ah, he's so powerful. He just throws those down or or he can just do a really good marlin brando Let's find out more about this colossus guy pieter nicolayovitch Resputing yes, that's him. Anyway, he um his mutant ability is to become um a metal guy at will Get a body of metal. So um And he's pretty strong too And he gets even stronger when he gets that metal body And let's see. Well, havoc is still around havoc is actually, um alexander summers And that makes him scott summers is little brother So that's that's interesting and well, let's see here. Um nightcrawler. Oh, no, there's an interesting character kurt vagner Who is um Well german born he was the first recruit into the new team of x-men And well, there's a whole story behind that too. They had to go and rescue the original x-men from this living island And that was that's a that was quite a story there See banshee shon kassidy not related to david Or the other shon kassidy or the other shon kassidy because he just has a Uh piercing siren call that he does and by golly That's me. That's that's that's what he does Banshee's his name And as we know a banshee is a wailing kind of deal symbol of death or something for the irish Okay, sunfire who was a japanese guy probably kind of related dumbos directly to the um Dropping of the bomb on a roshimu. Yeah, just um Got his powers there I must say for what i've heard so far that x-men certainly seem to have done more marvels done a much better job of Of uh bringing uh foreign characters in and uh Because justice league and and all the stuff over dc has just recently started to bring in foreign heroes Yeah, yeah, I mean they actually they actually created a group called the global guardians Which was basically just like well heroes. We've mentioned like once Ever who happened to be from another country. We'll put them all in there. That's right And that's where they'll be yeah, okay never hear about them But those that was like a second well a third actual lineup of x-men there included all those guys Let's let's just go back and recap another one Okay, yeah, there's sunfire and thunderbird who was a native american um um Mutant right well something happened and he died but He's got a brother history Who came on later? Okay, that was one point where warren whirlington the third also known as um angel actually left the group And um, he went on to because he had all this money that he inherited. He just went away and went out Do his do his fortune thing right being Be just uh A rich guy But He ran afoul of a bad guy who we'll just mention later here nightcrawler also Let me let me go back to him his his not only he looks he looks evil He has the ability to teleport and when he does teleport it leaves this nasty um sulfur smell Really yes, oh yikes And it makes it sound like bam That's it sounds it makes bam You can just bam fall over the place and What a what a bizarre power Here's here's kind of a picture of nightcrawler bamfing up here in the corner Doing some bamfing Yes, bamfing with the best of him there he is right there in his little bamf cloud behind him Amazing On then there's the amazing rogue who has who's pretty much Pound for pound probably one of the strongest of the x-men at least as far as things go She can fly and what she does is she can take If she touches any Being she takes their power from them whether they have power or not If it's just a regular human she just takes their energy away and they just kind of fall asleep or fall into a coma or something But if it's somebody with a mutant power, she can take their mutant power and make it her own for a while Which is kind of and it kind of renders them helpless for a while Which is kind of neat. You know, it's kind of a nice power to have and then oh, let's see. There's Sprite who joined the x-men kind of came in and joined up with him She now has the name shadow cat and she's in Excalibur, which is a an english Mutant group, but we'll get into that Later a british mutant group is giving me that just english with british, right Oh, and of course There's storm. Let's see a storm come in here. Yeah. Yep storm. Um, what is well? Let me get her real name aroro prince. No That's the storm is not on there. That's odd. Well, let's go back to the last one storm. Okay aroro munro and she's from africa And she well, she was born in africa Well, she's born in united states. Excuse me grew up in africa and was kind of An orphan She was she was an orphan She kind of hung out on the streets and learned to take care of herself on the streets Um, she can pick any lock in the world and she's really kind of a formidable thief and her one great weakness Well, her mutant power is the ability to control Weather and create weather actually and she was kind of revered when she found her power as a god kind of by um Some tribal groups in africa But um and they found her charles xavier found her brothers from united states She has one weakness though. It's it's rare that you'll really find a weakness that is um Mentioned even she is claustrophobic Very very badly claustrophobic if she's in a closed in space. She just goes crazy. So That storm is she's also um, she became a leader of the x-men for a while when scott left To do some pursue other things She became a part-time leader of the x-men. All right Let's move along here. Um Okay, let's see Well by golly At one point old charles xavier miraculously got out of his wheelchair and he kind of became a A team leader there for a while too, which storm kind of well, she kind of didn't like the idea but well, she was happy that her former mentor was out and About and everything so she just kind of put up with it and magneto Well, we haven't mentioned any of the bad guys yet. I suppose we should If nobody else at least magneto magneto Is the master of magnetism Is a bad guy Right here All right golly if they ever did him, I guess leslie nielsen Somebody could play magneto Anyway, he's kind of a contemporary of xaviers charles xaviers except Charles xavier what basically what he wants to do is he wants Mutants to be able to exist alongside normal humans peacefully can't we all just get along exactly where magneto thinks Well, we're better. We're stronger. We should rule Yes, indeed That's what he says to the guys that don't like him Yikes, anyway Magneto was pretty much the first bad guy that the the x-men never came across And since then they've been crossing paths and at one point He reformed enough to think that charles might be right So he joined up with the x-men to help them in their requests for getting along with humans But along with that people always say well, wait a minute. You're a magneto. You're a bad guy So those x-men must be bad guys too And so they started thinking that the x-men is outlawed And that just started a whole big mess to do and mess and everything But um for a while there magneto was actually considered a good guy and He was kind of a leader of the x-men at a point Okay, now I'm moving right along here. We've got um Well a couple more joining in here Sylocke who has the ability to probe and sometimes destroy the minds of others Well at this point she was just simply able to probe their minds here. She is right over here and over here We have dazzler who is um Has the ability to transform light into power And she can also create amazing light shows which is something that a lot of mutants Since then have also the ability to do to transform light or sound Well, she transformed sound into light. I guess that's what it is. And so um She can use that to blind or to amaze because for a while there dazzler was um, she kind of came in in the mid 70s because They kind of did disco shows around dazzler and she became a star in her own right She was a she was a performer at that point. Yeah. Yeah a singer and all and she did her own light show So it was really probably um Good for her. I mean easy for her to do and people were just amazed and she didn't have to pay anybody So And that's kind of her view and then okay down here We have another guy Long shot who's uh who comes from another dimension and it's kind of wow kind of strange really he's from a dimension where um TV is reality kind of Wow, and so um kind of like this show It's just kind of an odd thing. Let's let's see if they Hey Nope, not at all. They don't they don't they don't go into that a bit Let's see here Okay, he's an artificial created humanoid from another dimension Or a long shot is one of the few x-men who was not earthborn an earthborn mutant He joined the team upon arriving there in an amnesiac state and let's see He teamed with the x-men and overthrowing the rule of mojo and his native dimension And as they go on with the stories you find out that it's a dimension and mojo Kind of creates shows and creates Androids to be in the shows, but the androids are kind of sentient beings after a while And they don't like being controlled and so they always try to escape and sometimes they do get out and other times they don't Okay Let's see here Who do we have left? Well, I know I know one we have left At least one okay, um Wolverine let's say he's he's gone through many changes In his time, um, when he first appeared he Fight in the Hulk and he was kind of like this guy. Yeah. Well, well, let's see actually kind of like this one this guy The many costumes of wolverine how many faces of wolverine And um, he was just kind of he was up there in the canadian outback. Wolverine is canadian or at least lots of them He's just done that and um Wolverine um, his name is Logan. That's the only name that we know him by By golly, you mean we're done already We have any hard to believe that's on the surface here. We're gonna have to actually go on to another one Oh by golly another marvel zone. I guess we will Okay, well, I guess we'll have to get into wolverine's amazing history later Uh next time we're going to be talking with the all three of us talking about the history of camp acolyte Yeah, at least as far as we know now as far as we know, but who knows what'll be hot next time It could end up just being another one of those columbus things Action drunkers on We'll see you next time