 As an episode, when we look at second Corinthians, we see that Paul actually talks a lot about his personal life in ministry, or what he goes through, the difficulties, challenges that he goes through in ministry. He also talks about some of the not-so-nice things that are happening in ministry around that time. He talks about that also. And he wants the church about that. And also, there are a lot of revelations, which some of the things that he has shared, he shares here. He has not shared in earlier or none of his other episodes, especially about, if you look at second Corinthians 12, he talks about how he was caught up to the seventh heavens and his personal spiritual experience and encounter, which he has not shared in other places. He shares here. So it's a very different episode that we see. And it's something that he talks about the reality of ministry in those times, the hardships, the difficulties, the challenges. So it's a good book to really understand the reality of ministry in those times. And also, I think in the present times also, we can relate to it. So let's look at chapter four. If there are no doubts, of course, you're free to ask. But if there are no doubts, we'll go on to chapter four and where we left off. So he says, I think verse 15, sorry, let's go on to, we are hard-pressed. We are not crushed, perplexed, not in despair, persecuted, not forsaken, struck down, not destroyed. And what is happening is as always carrying about in our body, that is, we are always carrying about in our body the death of the Lord Jesus Christ. So what does he mean by that? Carrying out in my body the death of the Lord Jesus Christ. So let's look at that. Let me just present, OK. So scaring about the dying of the Lord, the reality of what he did on the cross, he is scaring about in the body, the reality of that. Meaning what he did on the cross, the victory that he purchased, the kind of things that he went through, the kind of persecution, the kind of difficulty, the pain that he went through, the affliction, and his dying on the cross. So he's saying, in a sense, when we go, we are carrying about in our body what actually happened. All these difficulties, all these challenges, we are carrying about that the life of Jesus, and the word you said, is zoe, the life of God, the God kind of life, the life of, it's not just biological life, but it's spiritual life. It's God kind of life. The zoe of God, the zoe of the Lord Jesus may also be manifested in our body. Yes, we are persecuted, we are struck down, we are perplexed, we are heart-pressed, OK. And in our body enough, in a physically, we are going through all kinds of discomfort, even like the dying of the Lord Jesus. All kinds of discomfort and pain and all that we are carrying about in our bodies, always. But the good thing is that the life of Jesus, the God kind of life, zoe of life, may also be manifested. So it means that we see that that's one of the key to acknowledge what the Lord Jesus did on the cross, why he died on the cross, what he did for us on the cross, so that the life of Christ may also be manifested, to acknowledge that each and every day, that the zoe, the life of the God kind of life may also be manifested in our bodies, OK. So which means when the life of God is manifested in our bodies and we are able to overcome this, because it's by the power of God. It's when we are able to, when the life of God is manifested in my body, it's made visible. I'm able to overcome some of these, overcome these challenges and live victoriously and live in faith and so on. So we live so that we live in this manner that the God kind of life may also be displayed in my body, OK. Verse 11 to 15, OK. For we are, so for we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our mortal flesh. So that death is working in us but life in you. And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, I believed and therefore I spoke, we also believe and therefore speak, knowing that he who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus and will present us with you. For all things are for your sakes that grace having spread through the many may cause thanksgiving to a bound to the glory of God, OK. So what is he talking about? He's talking about all the physical suffering, all the dangers. He says, death is working in us, but life is working in you. And verse 11, but we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake. It's like we are always at the threshold of death. We're almost there. We're delivered to death for the sake of Jesus. That's the reality of the life and ministry at that time. So he's saying we are delivered to death for the sake of Jesus. But that the life of Jesus, sorry, we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sakes, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. So we see the life of Jesus' Zoe, the God kind of life being manifested in our flesh, in our mortal bodies, that the life of Jesus is what brings the supernatural. So we witness this to that. We see that also being manifested, being made tangible. So without any excuse, I'm able to see that very clearly that the life of God is manifested in our mortal flesh. So then death is working in us, but life in you, even as death works in us. And as we minister with the life of God, now we come to you and we minister, and life of God is working, the life is working in you. You see the working of it. Then, and since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, I believe and therefore I speak. So it says we have the same spirit of faith. We have the same conviction, and therefore we believe and also we speak. Knowing that, this is our strong conviction. We know that he who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up. This is what has happened. He's the first fruits. We saw that, first fruits, meaning the first of a kind which will follow. He's the first fruits, which means there will be many who follow, who will be like him, we will be like him, because he's the first fruits of the new creation. So here says that, he who raised up the Lord will also raise us up with Jesus and will present us with you. So this is the faith. This is the belief. This is the faith that we have. For all things, all the difficulties, all the challenges are for your sakes. That grace, having spread through the many, may cause thanksgiving to a bound to the glory of God. So if we go through these difficulties, it is for your sake. If we go through all these things, like even living in such a manner that we are delivered up to death each and every day, it is for your sake. It is for your sake that grace, having spread through the many, that the grace of God, through the message of the gospel, this grace of God, having spread through many, may cause thanksgiving to a bound to the glory of God. So many have received grace, the grace of God, many have experienced the grace of God. Their lives are changed, their destinies changed. So there is thanksgiving. Results in thanksgiving, may this cause thanksgiving to a bound to the glory of God. And this results in the believers, the church, giving thanks to God for his glory. So verse 16, so then he says, therefore we do not lose heart. The first verse also he says, we do not lose heart. Therefore we do not lose heart. Here again, he repeats that. Therefore we do not lose heart. In verse one says, therefore we do not lose heart because we have this ministry. We have this glorious ministry. So we do not lose heart. That phrase, lose heart. That we do not lose heart. That means that we are not discouraged. We do not give up. So we do not lose heart. Let me just try and share that Greek word. It means that we do not faint. We do not faint or we do not grow weary. We are not exhausted. We don't come to that place of being without life. We are, we do not lose heart. So that is what he says, we do not lose heart. We don't come to that kind of a state. Therefore we do not lose heart. So what is the reason? He shared all this, the excellence of the power, the knowledge of glory of God is working in us. The life of God is manifested in us. Even though death is working, the life of God is manifested in us. Therefore, for this reason, excuse me, for this reason, we do not lose heart. We are not weary, we are not faint. We do not give up. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us, a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory. While we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen, for the things which are seen are temporary, for the things which are not seen are eternal. And then chapter five, it goes on to another, kind of flows into chapter five with the same theme. And so he's saying, therefore we don't lose heart, we're 17, we're 16. Even though our outward man is perishing, the outward physique, the outward body, yes, day by day, he's Paul as a person, he's growing old, and he knows that one day he'll come to the end of his physical life, right? And also in terms of hardships and all that, there's a lot of strain on his physical body. He writes about all the blows that he's been getting, the whippings, and also the fact that he's shipwrecked, all that he writes about a little later also. So he says, we do not lose heart, we do not. Even though our outward man is perishing, what is happening? Yet the inward man is being renewed. That is the spirit, the soul, is being renewed every day. He's being strengthened day by day. So that is verse 16, right? Just give me a minute, verse 16. Okay, so yeah, so he's talking about what is on the inside, the spirit is being renewed or made new, is receiving new strength, is receiving a freshness day by day. So that is what is happening. The inward man is being renewed day by day. So says, for our light affliction, okay? This, it's amazing that he talks about all the kind of hardships and he says, this is a light affliction. You read about it and sometimes you wonder, can this really be seen as light affliction? So much he goes through, so much that he and his team have gone through in the past, running from one place to another and not being accepted and sometimes even by his own countrymen and also definitely by the Roman soldiers and all that. So everybody calls it a light affliction, right? We don't lose heart. It's this light affliction, which is but for a moment. So when you consider eternity, eternity is a pretty long time, right? Eternity in the light of eternity or when we consider eternity, it is, when we compare it, it's like a small time, time frame. It's but for a moment. It's a very momentary. Right? This light affliction is just for a moment and it's working for us a far more exceeding eternal weight of glory. So it is light, it is not heavy and these sufferings is momentary. It is a very short time when we compare it to eternity. And also it's working for us. It's resulting in a far more eternal glory. How can I say that? Because whatever troubles he's going through, whatever difficulties he's going through, it's for the sake of the gospel, right? It's for the sake of ministry. And in ministry, people are coming to know the Lord. People are getting saved. And therefore it's working out for a, you know, there's far greater result or it's being even more productive. There's greater fruit and it's working out far exceedingly, far more exceeding an eternal weight of glory. Verse 18, while we look, while we do not look at things which are seen but at the things which are not seen. Okay, so which means that, well, there are earthly things, okay? Things that are seen, meaning in the natural, you know? Yeah, there are some needs. There are responsibilities. There are things that we need to do. There are difficulties, everything. But our focus, our preoccupation, you know, is not with those things. Okay? What is it then? We do not look at things which are seen, you know? To see, to touch and feel, you know? To observe is the natural world, the physical world. So you're saying we don't focus on those things. Our priority or what is far greater in importance to us are the things which are unseen, the spiritual reality, right? So you're saying we don't look at that or we don't focus on that. For the things which are seen are temporary, okay? So which means that, you know, sometimes we see that, okay, things that I can touch and feel, you know, these seem to be more permanent. You know, if it's a rock, you know, or things that are around, that seems to be more real to us. Why? Because we can, with our senses, we can experience them, right? But Paul's perspective is totally different when he's saying, hey, this is the reality, that the things which you touch and see and feel, these are temporary. These are only for a very short time. But the things which are not seen, things which are unseen, now referring to the spiritual realm, now that is permanent, that is eternal. That is what is going to stay, or the things of the spirit, you know, what you're sowing to your spirit, man, the life in the spirit. Now that is what is going to be eternal, meaning it's going to last beyond this lifetime, okay? Which is true, right? It's not, because whatever we, in the natural that we see is only for this lifetime, it could be whatever, how many ever years. But what is unseen, the reality of the spiritual realm, now that is going to take you beyond that, it's going to last even beyond your lifetime, shiara. So that is the unseen is eternal, okay? So that's a very, very important spiritual truth for us to understand and for us to know as, as people of God, you know, this will keep us grounded, this will keep us on the right path, give us right priorities, right? Correct priority, what we should give importance to, what we should not give importance to. This will help us, okay? These are not permanent, these are temporary things. I should not be spending so much time on it, or effort. Let me focus on things that are eternal. These things are eternal, it's going to last beyond my lifetime. So let me put an effort in that. Let me give it priority, let me give it importance, okay? It's not saying that things that are off the earth or what we, you know, material things, these are, you know, these are not important. The thing is, these are necessities, right? For our life on earth, these are necessities. We need it, right? And the Lord knows that. We need this for our life on earth. But to be focused, to continue to look at that, is to lose focus on the eternal. And when we are completely focusing and we're looking at only what is the natural and physical, we lose focus on what is eternal. We take our eyes away, we're not able to, we can't look at all things at once, right? So your Paul is saying that, you know, we look at things that are unseen, which are eternal, okay? So let's move on to chapter five, you know, he's just going into that. So in chapter five, we see the same thought, you know, says, for we know that if our earthly house, this tent is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we grown earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation, which is from heaven. If indeed having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. For we who are in this tent grown being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life. Now he who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the spirit as a guarantee. So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. So here is contrasting, you know, our first year's talking about physical life, natural life and eternal life. And he is talking about, you know, our physical body and our spiritual body, saying if our earthly house calls it a tent, okay? So what is a tent? A tent is not a permanent dwelling, right? A tent is portable, you fold it and you roll it up and you move it wherever you want and then you put it up. And it's not, it's actually, it's a bit flimsy, right? It's made of maybe canvas or some other material and it's flimsy, right? You can't compare it to a building made of stone, right? So saying, you know, if our earthly house, he's compared to a tent, this tent is destroyed. Okay, once if we, you know, if our body is destroyed, which is like a tent, we have a building from God. Okay, so a building is stronger than a tent, is more permanent than a tent, right? So you're saying we have a building from God, a house not made with hands eternal in the heavens. So, you know, this is my earthly house. It's a tent, it's, you know, it's temporary. Now, if this is destroyed, what happens? We have a building or something which is permanent, not made with hands, meaning it's not a physical body, right? It's not a physical house, it's not a physical body. This tent houses, houses, you know, my spirit. But when this is destroyed and when this tent is destroyed, when this outer cowering is destroyed, then we have a building from God, something that is permanent, something that is, you know, that is stronger. It's a house and it's not made with hands. It's not a physical thing. It is something that is spiritual and it's eternal in the heavens. So we have a spiritual body. Now, in this we grown, okay, saying in this we grown, we complain, yeah, this, you know, the aches and pains, the limitations to this life, to this physical life, like earnestly desiring, what is the earnest desire to be clothed with our habitation, you know, to be, to have that spiritual body, to be clothed with that spiritual body, which is from heaven, because that is spiritual without defect, without any limitations, right? Verse three, if indeed having been clothed, we shall not be found naked in the sense, you know, this having been clothed that we shall not be found naked in the sense that we should be clothed with the spiritual body and when what causes us to be clothed with the spiritual body is only when we receive the Lord as Lord and savior. Okay, that is only, that is the only thing that qualifies us for the spiritual body. That is the only thing that qualifies of for the spiritual clothing, for this building from God in the heavens, nothing else, no, it doesn't happen naturally, right? The only thing that qualifies is when I invite Jesus into my heart, when I experience salvation. So he's saying, if indeed having been clothed, we shall not be found naked, for we who are in this tent, we grown, okay? Again, he says, you know, in verse two also he says, we grown, why do we grown? We, you know, we desire to be, to experience that heavenly body. We desire to experience that spiritual body, that eternal body. Like for we who are in this tent grown, being burdened, okay? We are burdened by this life. We are troubled, we carry a lot of, you know, all these things and like he explained, you know, all these things happen, we are hard pressed and ministry, all these things happening. So saying, we grown, okay, we cry out, we grown, yeah, let me just check that verse again. Chapter five and verse one, okay. Let's check out that word, okay? So it's a longing, like when we say we grown, it's like a sigh, you know, we are looking forward to it. We grown, we sigh, we are, you know, our hearts are actually earnestly desiring that, okay? Looking forward to that, but the fact is that it's, it's not there yet, right? So we grown, we sigh, look forward to it, right? So he says, in this tent, we grown being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed in the sense, not that we just want to, you know, this physical body to just go away. It's not that, but that we will be clothed with this mortality, maybe swallowed up by life, okay? Which means that mortal means, you know, something that has an end, you know, something that comes to an end, something that has the capacity to die. This mortality, maybe swallowed up, maybe, you know, covered and swallowed up by life itself. That, see, it's not like we don't want, you know, it's not that we just want our body, our life to end and that, you know, that there'll be an end to our physical body, but this mortality or this thing which will eventually die, that it will be swallowed up, okay? Which means it'll be devoured, it'll be, you know, it'll be completely, you know, completely destroyed or completely covered, devoured, completely taken up by what devoured by life. So this mortality is completely, completely taken, completely devoured, completely swallowed up by life. So you're saying, I want to come to that place and when we read 1st Corinthians 15, he talks about that, you know, this body is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory, it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power, it is sown in actual body, it is raised a spiritual body. So he's talking about that spiritual body, a house not made with hands, meaning it's not something that is, something that has a physical origin or a human origin and it does not have that kind of an origin. The physical body, yes, it has a human origin, right? A natural origin, but here, the spiritual body, it's something that is eternal, it has a heavenly origin, it's there in the heavens for us, right? So it is covered, clothed by, not mortality, by immortality. So the desire is not just to be, you know, not just for the physical pain or the limitation of the body, you know, for that to come to an end. Yes, there is a desire, but the desire has to go beyond that. What is that, that we will have that glorified body, right? So that will come, we know, at the coming of the Lord, even we see him face to face, right? So he says in verse five, let's read verses five and eight. Now, he who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has also has given us the spirit as a guarantee. Now, who has prepared us for this, right? Who has prepared us for this kind of a thing, this kind of, you know, this mortality to be swallowed up by life and who has prepared us for this? It is God who has prepared us, right? And he says, who has given us the spirit, who has given us the Holy Spirit as a guarantee, okay? So the Holy Spirit has been given to us and he's there as a guarantee. He's there, you know, earlier on we read that he is there as a seal, right? Where did we read that? Yeah, we read in first, sorry, second Corinthians, chapter one, verses 21 and 22. Now, he who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us as God, okay? Who has also sealed us and given us the spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. So he's referring to the Holy Spirit and he's saying, Holy Spirit has been given to our hearts as a guarantee, as a earnest, as a deposit, okay? As a deposit, and which means that there will be a time when this payment is full, okay? He's there as a deposit. And we looked at the example of, you know, buying something on installment, right? You pay that earnest amount and it is yours. The installment is being paid, the EMI is being paid, but you know that the payment will one day be full and then fully realized. And anyway, you still have the product or you still have the vehicle with you, but you know that there will come a time when it'll be completely fully yours, right? So the Holy Spirit has been given as a guarantee, as a proof that there's going to be a time when this will change, when the body is going to be swallowed up by life, you will not have these aches and pains anymore. There will be a glorified body, okay? So saying who has prepared us? It is God who has prepared us. And what did he do? He has given us the Holy Spirit for what as a guarantee? And that word, Greek word, araban, which means as a pledge, as a partial payment, as an initial deposit, okay? So which means that he has a claim. Okay, so when you pay the initial deposit, actually the vehicle is yours, like you have a claim on the vehicle, right? You can ride it, you can use it. It's actually yours, but you also know that there will come a time when that payment will be full and it'll be yours forever. So similarly, the Holy Spirit has been given as he uses that word, which describes a partial payment, a pledge, and which will, when it's done, you know that there's a legal claim also that it will be completely redeemed, right? We are redeemed, but we'll be, we'll experience this glorified body as well. So he's saying, you know, therefore who is prepared as a spirit of God and is given as a spirit as a guarantee, so we are always confident, okay? So the thing is that this truth has to be a reality in us. You know, this truth has to become a revelation in us. And if that is so, then we will live an overcoming life. Okay, we will not be troubled. No matter what happens in this earthly life, we will not be troubled. Why? Because our focus is not on these things. Yes, we know. It's not like we are living in denial. Sometimes what happens is that we are saying, okay, no, this is not real. No, that's not what Bible is saying. No, this is real. God has created this world. It is real. It is natural world. It is real. It doesn't mean that it does not exist. You know, it's, Bible never says that all this is Maya. This pain is Maya. The suffering is Maya. No, Bible never says that. And what I've got never says that. So the thing is that, yes, you know, what you say is, what you see around it is it is real. But I have great confidence because this is my perspective. This is the truth that there will be, there will come a time when this will change. I will have a spiritual glorified body. And no, he's saying that we are confident knowing that while we are at home in this body, okay, we are at home in this body, we are absent from the Lord and we walk by faith, not by sight, okay? So we are walking by faith. We are not able to see what will happen, but we walk by faith. Through the eyes of faith, we understand we know that this will what happen. So it's, I'm walking by faith, okay? But this is the reality that even though I'm here, we are confident that while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord. In the sense we don't see him face to face. We are absent from the Lord, but we live by faith, we walk by faith and not by sight, okay? Again, he says in verse eight, we are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord, okay? So in other words, if it so happens that we die, okay, that we are maybe martyred or whatever, if it so happens that there is death. So he's saying, you know, if it so happens, then we are confident, well pleased, okay, that's how he looks at death itself, right? We are confident, well pleased that to be, rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. We are confident, we are well pleased to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. We know that, you know, then what happens? I'm not living by faith anymore. Faith has become sight or I'm actually experiencing it. I'm not living by faith. I'm actually seeing it face to face. Faith has become sight, no more walking by faith, right? I'm well pleased, confident, knowing that to be absent from the body when this is put away, I'm going to be present with the Lord, versus nine onwards. Therefore, we make it our aim. Therefore, we make it our aim, whether present or absent to be well pleasing to him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body according to what he has done, whether good or bad. Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men, but we are well-known to God and I also trust our well-known in your consciences, okay? So, here saying, you know, therefore I'm making it my aim. I'm making it my focus. I'm making it my priority. I'm making it my aim in life. What does this aim to be well pleasing to him? Okay. I know that when I put off this body, I need to be present with him. I will be present with him. So, since that is the reality, since that is my confidence, I'm making it my aim, I'm making my focus to be always well pleasing to him, whether I'm in my body, whether this body has to be taken out of the way and I die, I want to be well pleasing to him, to be well pleasing to the Lord. The reason is that we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ and, you know, he uses that word, judgment seat, meaning bema, right? That is the word. In fact, in Corinth, they had, I think we looked at that earlier also in one Corinthian chapter five, I think. We saw that there was a race platform and it was called bema. Sorry, we looked at it in, yeah, chapter five, chapter six. So there was race plate platform and it was where it was like a court of law and people would come, present their case. There would be others, you know, onlookers. And so in the first Corinthians, Paul wants, you know, he says, why are you taking people to the court of law? Are you taking a fellow believer and all that? And he's saying, why can't you settle it, right? So he's saying here that, you know, we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ. You know, Christ is going to judge us and we must all appear before Christ. So, anyway, before that, I just missed out this one thing that when he says we make it our aim, he's saying we make it our, you know, study, focus, we put all our energy and our effort and our labor to be well-pleasing to him, okay? To be agreeable, acceptable, to make sure that I'm pleasing him at all times, right? So, yeah, so we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, okay? Now, the thing is this, we know that we are already accepted by God. You know, we are already accepted by him because of the cross. We are, you know, we are already received by him. So we live a life that is worthy of that, okay? He has already accepted us, you know, in Christ, he has broken down, you know, that wall of separation. He has given us access to his presence. He's already, you know, he's saying you come, receive grace and mercy so that you can live a life in that manner, in a pleasing manner, okay? Now, so the, yeah. So we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ. He's saying, you know, he's, of course, writing to the church and he's saying, writing to all believers. So will believers appear before the Lord and before the judgment seat? Yes, there is a judgment seat. There is a Beema and, you know, that we need to appear before Christ and there is a judgment of all believers, all believers. It is not a judgment of condemnation, okay? So it's not a judgment of, okay, now you cannot enter heaven and you enter heaven. No, it's not that. No, this is a judgment of believers. And what is this for? This is a judgment where you receive the rewards according to what you've done, good or bad, okay? So he's saying that this is a judgment. This is not a judgment of salvation or condemnation, which what we see as the great white throne judgment, okay, which we read in Revelation 20, okay? Now that is a judgment for those who have accepted the Lord, those who have not accepted. Now this, where here he's talking about a judgment of believers where it's a judgment of rewards according to what we have done, according to our level of obedience to the Lord, right? So based on the call of God, based on what he has gifted us with and given us, where we true to it, where we faithful to it. So it's based on that. So he's saying, I know the fear of the Lord. I know the, he's saying, he used the word the terror of the Lord, knowing the terror of the fear, the severity of judgment of not receiving salvation, right? So I know that. So therefore I persuade others, okay, we are well known to we persuade men, okay? So on one hand, he's talking about the judgment of believers where the Lord will judge and whether they've done good or bad according to how they've lived their lives as believers, they're going to receive, their reward will depend on that. And he's saying, knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, knowing the severity of the Lord and the standard of the Lord, we persuade men, right? We persuade people to come to saving knowledge of God. So he's talking not about the judgment of believers, he's saying, knowing fully well the severity of, there is, he will come as a judge. So we persuade men and that is the ministry, right? Persuading people to the, by means of their life, by means of their action, by means of their teaching, by means of the ministry, whatever they do, to invite people to receive Jesus, to invite people to follow the Lord Jesus, right? So he's saying that, and I trust our well known in your consciences, right? Consciences, you know, and I know that me, myself, my team, this is how we live. And we know that this is why we persuade men, this is why we go and share and minister and persuade people to accept the Lord, right? And trust, and I trust our well known in your consciences. So, you know that this is how we live as servants of God, okay? Now, yeah, I think we'll stop here. So which is, yeah, so versus 12 onwards, we will look at in the next class. So I just want to encourage us to just go through, just read through, till where we have seen. And from chapter five, verse 12 onwards, we'll look at in the next class, okay? Just a minute, sorry. Yeah, okay, so we'll stop here. Thank you, God bless, bye-bye. Thank you.