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membership we thank you for all the support and we love you man hey man listen man we got a special guest here today he don't need no introduction man he frequents the show man uh i think it's he's a leo in the building yeah y'all man that pmc is man he's shining you blingin man what you're talking about man i just like the the the merch man the merch is going down man like the mask yeah the mask and just to hold and and then the the sublimation uh hoodie yeah yeah i got the mask on for a reason though uh why is why do you got a mask on young he's a bus man my shit what yeah he was listening to an old record that i had and i call his mama a bitch and uh he said who you was talking about i say my other baby mommy he used to say you're a damn lie them kids weren't even born but nigga bus man my shit damn man come on man little pill look all right now young easy young easy yeah oh man damn the kids jumping on the daddy now yeah man that's how old is he he bought 25 so old to be doing all that now that's how these demons is these days but you see when they're that old you can't really do none except from pop them in the mouth like a Jesus fight back but what what what is that going to accomplish though well these days you got to search your dominance you know these niggas like little monkeys and we the silverbacks so we got to let them know all that silver in our beard that's what being a silverback motherfucking gorilla you know what i'm talking about so you think he he got a point yeah he learned his lesson no i didn't i didn't do nothing i just took that leg so i know you haven't been on here in a while so what have you been up to recently because i know you've been up to a lot because when we look on your social media you always talking a whole bunch of stuff i've been on the farm in lime trying to see what is hitting folk now uh i've been on the ground like usual uh you know this and that everything that i touch uh you know all the stuff i put my hands on always so many different businesses any new businesses that popped up since then man to be honest i was about to launch one but it had to do with the whole weight loss thing so i got up to a loss of about 62 pounds and i was shooting for a hundred what were you doing what you doing i had been uh juicing blending uh fruits a bunch of exercise all you've been doing that so no meals you just been straight juicing uh well back then it was minimal meals but after i went and tried tree a burger you know i mean uh when cori got out of prison it kind of threw me off and i've been fighting to get back yeah i picked up a little something back but but not a bunch but yeah because you look smaller than you did the last time we interviewed still yeah come on man let's shout out to all the texas rangers man for making into the world series it's just gonna shock them out right now we're wearing this for a reason man let's go get it popping right now who the hell is that the rangers yeah baseball team oh you watch that stop playing man i'm i'm i'm in Dallas man i got to do what i got to do man motherfucking sport you creator you are always traveling man but you gotta know what's going on on what in every platform all i know is i'm black wow man i heard you the other day man uh i i've seen a clip and uh you said something and messed me up you you said something about you wasn't with pimping them first or not you went on you said in the 90s some niggas talk like they know everything about uh uh ugk or whatnot but you was really saying no i didn't meet them till like the end in part but i knew of them what was that all about well i get a lot of uh because we make content we get a lot of comments inboxes this and that this and that so i get all these ugk uh historians that just know everything and what i'm trying to tell them is me being from polter off the texas which the population is about 50 000 just because i seen these guys walking around dapped them up smoked joints with them that don't mean i know them and it damn sure don't mean i know everything about their music endeavor i've been knowing them boy since the 80s but i'm never gonna claim i know everything that was going on that would be cockamamie yeah that wouldn't even be the truth right because you can't nobody know everything that was going on right you have to have no life at all have to be a no business born pigeon tow knock needed motherfucker paying attention to niggas that damn close nigga back in the 90s i was smoking dip going in and out of jail boxing niggas talking about damn near 150 fights up under my belt we all go ask me by me mine damn you're acting like uh uh goldmouth when i had him over here he didn't want to talk about jesus no more he was done with talking about jesus he said he wanted to talk about his self and what he got going i just want to talk so i mean i know you've seen a super tight shout out to bobo uh i see eggo eggo interview where he talked about uh pimp see the night of the that he passed and it's the whole you know uh the whole surrounding theory of what people feel happened what he felt happened right um what did you take from that i gotta ask you that i would say that uh ed being a family member you know maybe he had been sitting with something too long and just wanted some therapy you know i mean and he did what he did um some things i'm not talking about you know when the time is right yeah yeah i might i might do some some talking but some things it's just i didn't think it was the time for that but this is kin folks so i'm not holding it against him he's still family you know bobo family so if that's what they demonstrated okay that's what it is but they got a little slack off there from a bunch of people and you know i'm saying however they're dealing with it they're dealing with it you know i mean yeah i just know that that's something that's during the time that you was dealing with them and you basically for us that night and that day and uh the things early on i heard some so many things i wasn't there but i've heard that was at the funeral there were snipers on the roof i heard that i don't know because i wasn't there i heard that there i mean of course the funeral home called me uh they told me how the body was delivered and all kind of stuff it's crazy they told me he went to a white uh funeral home and not a black one that was real odd to them that's what they told me on the phone yeah that's how much me and you talked about pmc on boss talk 101 so a big part of that is me dealing with you because i met you before i met anybody else right right you know what i mean i believe that uh the black funeral home missed that motherfucking money now it was a bunch of crazy shit going on prior uh we had just left dallas crazy big show go back to the high rise cutting records having good family time and he was just on some shit about what he was about to do because he had been read everybody he was one of them dudes he'll sit back and watch you to analyze to see do i need this nigga around me or do i need to get this nigga to fuck away from me and so he had analyzed everybody he felt like man this this core little group i got right here from the the artist to the uh his personal assistants to just all the people the security everybody he felt like he had something really strong and he appreciated it and so he told us what he was about to do so a lot of us felt like a weight was taking off our shoulders our brother finna go to cali kicked his field goal come back and bless everybody game and we can really mash on this shit budgeted this time because everything we have been doing was off the cuff uh ugk posse niggas all of niggas was thousand ass you know i mean but it is something i'm gonna let you know uh make sure you remind me so everybody was thousand ass shaking and baking on their own but big bro was like ugk records about to be funded we're gonna get this distribution so when i come back we're gonna drop this project ugk posse got the big big nuts all that type of shit and we had started recording probably like six seven joints you know i mean two of them wind up going on uh naked soul and one went on uh steel pimp and i think that was released by rap a lot well yeah i i could say it was just a a trying time when you look back at that that history that that whole thing how it unfolded you know um i know you has has a uh quarry doing since he came home i know you've been been talking with him and everything it's it's one of those deals where he's coming of age so his awareness is different you see when he was a kid you got all these elements coming at him all these people claiming to be friends family this and that this and that and he can't differentiate that because he's a kid but 18 1920 then he goes spend two years in prison you know a nigga gonna wake up if he goes some grown man environment like that so right now he got questions and uh he just you know i'm saying one of those certain stuff and i'm just trying to be as instrumental as i can to hey this is what i know about this you know from from music to to life just just anything so somebody was like are you a manager no i'm not a manager i'm on some conductor type shit i'm damn near touching on every aspect of life because these are young men and they need direction and unfortunately his father is gone and so niggas be screaming out that we got love for p.m.c. mean we repping for how the fuck is you repping with your mother fucking hands on your pocket in your pocket tightening up your wallet making sure nothing come out nigga you ain't doing nothing but talking wow and and like that's something you you think about it you hear all the p.m.c. stories if you put it in of course mine gonna pop up i'm gonna pop up p.m.c. p.m.c. p.m.c. p.m.c i've actually i did call quarry i've reached out to him i know we're supposed to be linking up and i ain't tripping on that and i could talk and i reached out to him before that is where even when he were locked up right but at the end of the day when you look at like like all of these different people that speak on the p.m. name i has been the same thing when i was talking to him you know like how you know what is what is what is the results of what one would want to see with the legacy of p.m.c. really is pretty much what i begin that like because if nobody speaks on p.m.c. good bad or nothing then he'll be he'll fade out to be honest with you yeah and that would be a disservice you see what i'm saying because think about that iconic legend they keep two pocking big in the conversation correct and we're gonna damn show keep Chad Butler in the conversation that's what i'll be thinking about but it's also gonna come with some residual you know i mean it ain't just gonna be funky breath niggas talking about the pimp it's gonna be some things put together some paper flips so the youngsters could put something in their pocket and move on alone because they really young and they got a chance to do anything they want to do in this world rather is music acts social media uh on any kind of business they can do whatever they want this world is wide open and when you have people who so say they love you have all these resources bitch ass niggas dropout wow and you know and like i said when i when i'm kormo kormo oh you name dropping the day what you mean i always so come on that what i'm saying like like when you when you look at like like these guys man even when like i said when i say bun and me we talk and i was trying to figure out like okay where do we want to be if you don't talk about pimp really think about this you know and i didn't say this to bun but i'll say this to you if you don't talk about it they got these things that is real popular what they're doing is they make a like a my brother was just talking about it they'll do a documentary a docu series and and they'll just put his picture up and they'll tell the story the way they want to tell the story i'm being real this is happening all over youtube right now i sit on youtube everywhere and like if you don't talk people like you people like bun people like boa people like ega people like if you don't talk about pmc then you just going to get lost in the sauce and then somebody else is going to tell the story right i think some people that's that's close to the fam they almost think it's a fine line that they they're overdoing and they don't want to seem like they're trying to benefit off his name but i'm transparent like i'm not a whole ass nigga pulling slick moves everything i do is right then your motherfucking face we broke bread on t-shirts right after he passed me and mama west she told me to stop the pimp see forever t-shirts and i did when cori came of age we restarted him you know i mean that's why the trio has had pimp on the side i cut him in so he can put some bread in his pocket before he went and why he was in and why he out and we in touch every day you know man so you saying you before he went in you put the the pimp on side of the hat so that when we started um yeah we started the the pimp see forever shirts back before he went in and then when he went in i've been selling these hats for years of course been selling trigger gear for 23 years so when he went in i put pimp on the side of the hat to get him a slice of the pie that's how i cut i cut him in and and that's what people understand and i tell the story all the time and i i'll never stop telling it when i first met you it was in this parking lot it was down a little bit and i was walking and i seen you and i was like man you know you had some shirts then you had some stuff then you i got a cd from you it was cd time back right other kind miss it crying and on the inside but the thing we talked about the pimp see shirt and you was like man that it goes to you know the the family and i think that's what people don't understand and me and you did that i was right after pimp had died really you were still in the streets doing your thing right and a lot of people because they don't know they want to associate me with everybody else doing something but the fact is when you look a little closer you'll see it's directly connected me and mama was together damn near every day until i just had to move around and and wave that flag because we couldn't do it from pa going to these invites we had a lot of favor from the the bigger artists and whatnot but it was more or less like come hang out with us and i was telling mama straight business for the label we're gonna have to solidify something you know i mean wow yeah so let's talk about that for a second you met you you was with uh pimp see uh mother mama west when she you know when he passed you was with her just give me some of those times man the difficult times that when you when you because the loser son is crazy but the loser son pimp see for sure is throwed uh like just like what were some of the things that you noticed in her you know months out after that that kind of given the concerns you i'm gonna take you before he got out all the way up short so before he got out you could tell a lot of fight was taken out of her but she still had this hope you know mean and so it was a bunch of false calls about him coming home but then it finally was like he's coming home when he came she was complete it was a different glow about the house her her confidence just everything she was complete and they they was like man they were buddy buddy like that's our only child you know i mean in the in the relationship was crazy so to have him for that short period of time it was like she got robbed and somebody stole a life out of her so the transition from before he came home to when he came home to now he gone like she really just floating trying to figure it out you know i mean and she got questions because she felt like he didn't just pass away on no pymythazine type shit and remind me to tell you about the pymythazine story when we left Dallas and you know i'm saying went back to the high rise so she felt like she was robbed of her child just that quick and after that we were going to Ozone Awards 08 so he passed 07 we at the Ozone Awards 08 doing a tribute that bun put together uh with you know you'll see it on youtube and whatnot and shout out to julie buried for that opportunity it was supposed to be the ugk posse doing a tribute song for pimp but somebody voted that out but somehow uh mjg from a ball and mjg he missed his flight so bun hit me like say you want to do this hit boom you remember this song i'm like hell yeah boom boom boom so i got actually got on there and performed too but we was upstairs and they also gave us these merch tables we was upstairs moving to pimp c forever shirts and we kept the same design so people wouldn't get it confused and while we up there talking to wendy day next to either 979 or whomever that was mama got a phone call when she got up she walked away and she just screamed it almost dropped on the floor here it is again her mama just passed away wow so it was back to back so her mama passed away right back to back how far had it like uh that went far no because pimp passed in december 07 uh her mother passed sometime in uh 08 wow whenever the ozone awards yeah just right afterwards so we go to that funeral you know i mean and uh we hold her up bun red boy few other folks you know i'm saying from the team we traveled to louis anna i believe was crawler louis anna we go out there and we hold her family up you know i mean come back everything trying to get back together to my brother die you know i mean wow this shit was crazy man it was crazy wow and and and just took everything in you to try to focus and keep going and pushing through how i just had a new baby you know had to do had to keep it moving and and i seen all emotion that we had created and it was like i didn't even give myself time to mourn i just kept grinding and bitch ass niggas was steady throwing dots at me you know i mean trying to break a nigga down but that was one of the worst times in my life and shit so if i made it through that shit then i lost my mother you know i'm saying a few years after that right after mama with so i made it through all that shit she is nigga i'm ready nigga what it's still it's instilled in him you know what i mean um so give me um you was you was on that stage a few times i know uh toadown just left here talking about a pimp c on the stage and how erratic it got you know some of the times when you know some of the things that stuck out to him that happened like what was what was some key element moments that you've seen pimp on the stage and you you basically like dang did that just happen tree of stores okay okay okay shout out og person say man this shit fresh out of my mind because somebody was just fucking with me about this up we in Dallas at some kind of convention center or whatever okay and so we walk on the stage and pimp doing this thing shit chaotic a nigga throw a diamond ring on the stage you know i mean i picked that bitch up you know i mean at the end of the show i check with pimp say manager ring like nah that shit ain't mine who put that bitch in my pocket but while we on stage one of the sound people on the stage hand me a microphone and shit so i don't know him and pimp had a uh pre-conversation so i'm thinking oh pimp must want me to do some ad libs so i'm on that bitch i'm hitting some pimp cugk ad libs but that shit got to feeling good to him i start hitting him he's a leo ad libs and i did that shit and i seen pimp jump then he starts trying to look for that motherfucking microphone world and that nigga spotted it i had that big getting it in you know i'm talking about damn i'm talking about fucking this show up that nigga walked over there smooth as a bitch looked at me did like this and say give me that mother fucking mic and i hand it to him and shit man that nigga walked off that nigga say no no no yo so he had to get you you got out of control yeah nigga say man how you felt when pimp did that i say like a little child embarrassed in the bitch you know what i mean yeah yeah but that's those are teachable moments man the video lives forever you know yeah yeah yeah man that's the cold part about it man so when you think about like what's going on today far as in the music how do you feel about the way the music is transitioning today back then it was CDs of course back then it was a lot of different avenues tangible avenues now you definitely got to use your merch and stuff but just the music man being that you know the streams don't equate too much you heard snoop talk about that one day you know about how you're not making that kind of impact the way you used to with the money even so much so even with the visuals because of like the internet and stuff and the writer strike and all that this stuff is causing a rift because of the way the monetary things are being diminished to be honest with you right what do you think about it how do you deal with it like did you know the history of it you've seen the transitioning of it what do you think i think that um prince was trying to tell us that this age was coming and i remember he did this big box set of his music and he sold it for like a hundred and some dollars and i paid close attention to what he was doing kept trying to warn us michael jackson kept trying to warn us but for the the hustlers in this music shit from the urban community wrap the unity in the togetherness to to you know you bring potatoes i bring cheese and we make old grotton we're not doing that we're trying to get a little information over here over there and we ain't combining the shit so now we're getting boxed out because all these millions of streams you ain't getting the shit thought them holes so when the dinosaur such as myself and a lot of the other guys out of ace town that was popping trunk selling CDs and whatnot when people started telling you i ain't got a CD playing my carnamo boom a light bulb shitter came on i never tripped because i always sold clothing too you know what i mean so coming together with the merchandise it changed from gorilla marketing to pop-up shops and we saw more of the and i don't mean no disinfect but we saw more of the the the hipsters uh the nerd type kids the skateboarders doing the pop-up shops the street niggers the gorilla markers we was in the parking lots and in the hoods and shit if you didn't convert fast enough you got left behind i just kept converting and then in 2015 when the conversion was just kind of locked me out i created something else to come back and open this bitch back up and put myself back in which i did so i feel to sum it up the resources and the options that's out there when you learn something you really fuck with a nigga you need to pull that nigga in and sit down with that nigga and see what he got to bring to the table too these niggers is thinking we're gonna live forever so they try to keep that little shit all covered up oh no shit about shit you know what i mean you bitch had nigga going walking to Spotify walking to youtube then white folk telling your bitch had something and you need to bring that goddamn conversation back to the aunt mile motherfucker man that's real come on man i just want to see the music you know go forever and last forever man i don't want to see them water down the films either like i want to see it get everybody get the respect they deserve for the artistry you know what i'm saying i think that you got to get creative you got to figure out ways to make make it make sense to where a person can feel good i believe we got to get back to hand-to-hand but i don't know how we do it but i would love to see it those uh i don't think it's going to ever happen the merch for sure hand-to-hand yeah but you got to be strategic everything is online it is but when you're doing it all you're capitalizing off online you're getting back with a physical presence and so that's what i'm teaching my son and young pimp right now them pop-up shops you got to get them people faced take them pictures hug them babies sell them CDs and you let them know this CD ain't never coming out again this is just a limited run you sell them hats and them t-shirts and you make so many connections that way i think i think you said it in my in a nutshell um it's a lot of time man the internet i see you getting to it man like you always you always trying to figure something out what was the ninja thing about the ninja thing has to do with the weight loss let's talk about you guys are my friends so i'll tell you the blended ninja is actually a business in itself it's a juicing and blending business i was buying a damn step van wrapping blended ninja all along that hoe i was gonna tell everybody in my second book how i lost a hundred pounds and here's these goddamn juices in these recipes i've been blending but i'm fighting like a motherfucker the rio cookies and triple chocolate cakes with ice cream color man it's hard it's hard it's hard and everybody around me hungry like i'm up huh it ain't impossible it's not it's not because i'm still jumping on the floor doing push-ups i'm still sit-ups i'm still treadmill but it's just everybody i'm around act like they just dole on trying to be better they just love the way the food tastes and you gotta convert them well you instead of them being a bad influence on you you need to be that good influence on them my impact ain't strong enough you ever smoke cracks no okay so it's like everybody on crack i'm trying to kick it and i kicked it for a while but i keep going in the same environment and they still lighten up straight shooters and i go to smelling that motherfucking work and i want me some kill away that's all i'm saying so so when you look at how they portray that uh pimp you know we're gonna go back to him that he was you know like like on the serve and this is what what how he passed i'm gonna go back to that like do you agree with with that being a portion of something because i and i heard it was no testing nothing like that no autopsy was it an autopsy or do you remember i believe it was it was okay yeah i believe but it didn't show no traces of nothing i believe what they were looking for they found small traces of it okay and they wanted to attribute that to uh towards his death but we just i don't believe that personally from the conversations with me and mama um i'm glad you brought that back up because this the part i was gonna tell you when we were leaving Dallas that day um heading back to the high rise to cut those records and all that me him and i repeat was sitting in the um hotel parking lot right in front of the hotel and he you know he said a little drunk whenever he felt like it but he wasn't no frequent drunk head you know i mean so he was like uh pee man uh wouldn't it get some drank it man r.i.p i repeat man wouldn't it get some drank it he like man i got a little three and a half for a four right here he said let me see it he like here you go man and he took that bitch he said that he is about three and a half huh he popped that bitch and he gloop gloop gloop knocked that bitch down straight wow yeah so the whole trip back from Dallas to houston he was in a van he would not die in the van and shit and so when we got back to the high rise we get outside the car and everybody talking congregating they're like what are we gonna do i'm like shit we ain't gonna leave them in the damn van let's wake them up and help them upstairs so we woke them up help them upstairs he was really groggy his voice was like really gravelly and so when we got him upstairs he was like man we finna record and we finna do this and we finna do that and i'm like this nigga's voice is out of there we ain't finna do shit yeah and i had this little slim reindeer looking little pretty let me tell you about this bitch like i had a little moment where you know me man couldn't wait till i get home so i'm like man i'm fit i'm finna go to the crib y'all niggas ain't finna drop no record this shit gonna sound like shit and i was shot out you know i mean got my good go get my car so great school got to have it don't talk about so the next day the niggas call me like man you should have came back i'm like why he said man we cut by three four records i'm like how y'all cut three four records man that nigga voice was out of there so they like man listen and them niggas push play and that nigga on hooks and shit that nigga rapping i say man i told girl get your goddamn hands off me jump back into the lack and smash back and and finish cutting the records and what he did that made me feel so inclusive and so loved and so party shit man i hate this shit over with damn it man you know i ain't nigga glad now nigga we still fighting and kicking know i'm talking about yeah y'all so when i got back man he like he's man we left these verses open for you man go and write your verses almost cry are you serious man because and what i'm gonna tell you this that really messed with me and here's the deal when you said something the other day when last time we was on here me you mr. Lee and bobo remember that and you was like man they took you off of some verses was that some of the verses that you was exactly so it meant so much to you exactly you see what i'm saying and it took you off because they found bigger names of course to try to business yeah but at the same time intimate moments like that business people don't give a fuck about that but that's something you tied to for the rest of your life so i didn't ever feel like oh i'm gonna run to the public and try to get the arms of the angel hug on me to make me feel better fuck it business wise they took me off a damn near foe they left me on two and i might have traces and remnants of the ones that i was on so one day i might just splash them bitches in your motherfucking ear nigga man so and and that's the that's the game you know something bun said that sticks out to me is that he said once he's gone that there's gonna be a lot of stuff that's gonna start coming out because he said he feel like people right now are not gonna do it with him being still alive right i would i would agree with that because he did he they know the repercussions that'll come behind it i would agree with that that makes sense huh it happens with everybody wow but the thing is we're not gonna even be here that long so we got the love each other man we got to start hearting each other while we hear my nigga i mean the people you didn't last like that yeah i just lost a homeboy the other day a nigga told me i laugh too much and i clown too much you goddamn right nigga i'ma have fun with the rest of this motherfucking time i got on this earth and i'ma heart my people and i'ma help as many as i can fuck you sour hearted ass niggas wow man so how does you find this stuff in the comments he's this niggas telling you that i don't think too many niggas run up on you telling you a whole bunch man niggas is man these niggas is not that sometimes it ain't even niggas a little old four foot 11 white niggas little old punk is a one troll ass motherfucker who ain't ever did nothing but dick ride for transportation to him from anywhere he went he's still hating on a nigga 18 years really come on man bitch so when you go back to Port Arthur is there anything signifying like a mule or stuff or pmc uh i think they did a new one okay but when i'm in pa i'm fucking with trio ass niggas that i really fuck with you know family members and shit like that and i'm glad you asked that because that brings me to what i'm doing right now i got this okay okay trio stories original gangsters and hustlers i'm taking the goddamn covers back and showing you why the word trio was even uttered i'm showing you the niggas the stories i'm showing you all of the bottom the slugs the bugs the worms the niggas went dead all that time the bona fide street trio niggas that made that whole motherfucking city move the way it moved and made motherfuckers interested in wanting to hear them raps and that content wow man and when is this when is this gonna we already shot the first episode my nigga pa black we're gonna drop that bitch probably uh maybe saturday uh hopefully then i got all kind of other niggas and these are people that bun know also this is very verifiable people people who didn't we did 15 20 years people who didn't caught bodies in all kind of shit gang bangers niggas who didn't got shot six seven eight nine ten time like i'm not going trying to explore their stories i just always was trying to get in position to go back and find the niggas that came up like me and try to get them some options and resources because they were so fucking brave so them being that damn brave doing some bullshit what could they really do in this world while these opportunities are abundant they keep niggas like that out of corporate america because they know they're gonna excel they want that type of nigga knuckle dragon they want that type of nigga doing some shit where he ain't got to use his mind he just got to use his body that john henry shit you see them saying somebody have to take out people out of that john henry shit and the show ain't gonna be me new motherfucker stubborn in the bitch wow man i trip off the fact man that that that you know you you've stayed you've stayed down with the whole cause and the movement and what you were a part of god put you in a situation where you you was with the family you know those detrimental last two three years that you dealt with them those were some time those some explosive times bro like what do you think pimp do you think pimp would be happy with what you're doing right now with the brand and the way that you're you're living your life when it comes to represent his name i would think he would be pleased um resources i'm not willing to do some of the shit i used to do so i probably could have shot past you know i'm saying a hundred yards uh ten times by now but i've been so blessed that i basically want to move the way i'm moving you know i mean i don't want to clip myself trying to risk it all to do this no more i got i got bona fide ways that turn so i want to keep that type shit going but what i've done with what i have is tremendous every day somebody hit me be like man when i got out jail you did this for me man you did this for me so that's richness to me you know i mean so i believe he would be pleased uh straight business you believe he'll be pleased what's the thing you miss the most about the pimp Chad butler elaborate Chad butler was more of the the the loving person who was very considerate and compassionate about uh people he knew families uh old school artists he knew kids who ran up on them just individuals he bumped into he just always wanted to do something for you know i mean um there's plenty times we in the mall um i don't even get to tell him hey this dude might be a opp because this is a nigga my brother shot you know i mean and he buy himself some shoes and he buy me some shoes and he gives the guy his shoes like we come straight out the store buying shoes and uh i got my shoes and he got his and we see dude but i'm looking at dude he ain't looking like he won't know shit he's really looking at me like nah i mean it's good you know i mean and you know it here with it here so pimp like hey man what's up man you just got out he like yeah man i just got out there were big as fuck too so he like man you what you doing get some shoes he like here man he hand him his shoes and i think he went in his wallet and hand him some paper you know i'm saying so he was always doing shit like that uh when pimp see was present shit you gonna be a bitch how love how say bitch who you talking to so so that brings up something else so you're saying Chad butler and pimp see i've heard that before that there's two different that there's character it's all kind of shit going on there sweet james johnny james y'all uh maca jordan yeah that's that's just a few that i know because what i know tony snow tony snow you know what i love was Chad butler that's that's the dude i was at the crib eating big barbecue with air barbecue and making ribs mama baking cakes all the kids running around having a good time and we they're just chilling on some grown men's shit talking about how we gonna provide for our families that's the shit i was doing it for fuck all the fame all the chains and all this here trying to put on this persona nigger we were bona fide hustling for that fucking legacy and them kids wow i've had a few people on here man and uh i'm gonna jump right into it uh these guys tell the story about uh masterpiece uh i heard i heard uh og percy said the other day ain't no nigga he had no texas nigga ain't no who's that nigga he had no texas nigga you know how he go yeah you know you know how og percy is but at the end of the day um we've heard this story over and over again i also seen what gdp put it up to where where it was you know where masterpiece talked a little bit about it and i know it's old news i love masterpiece i love pmc you know i love the whole the whole movement of the south of course i don't play about it all of them coming with me including bird man all of them including you know anything you look i can grab him from florida yeah everybody but i'm just saying you know like like that story when you hear it and you've heard it over and over again uh what do you think about it and even jay dawg was just on here and he said jay dawg was on here and he was like man pimp see told me one day i had the blue man you had him nigga pistol with me yeah you know i'm saying so just give me your spiel on like when you when you heard about it when you think about it what are the stories that came to you the trilling shit i could tell you is this i got it first from mama wow then i got it wait wait wait wait don't just say i got it first what did you get from mama explain it just a mother-fucking interrogation because i ain't got to tell y'all shit i'm about to i'm about to tell you what i want to tell you give me the information to get behind these microphones yeah i did it at 945 i was over there on six street and i'm done mama i can tell you it's gone mama told me uh when he got out he told me and then i talked to uh one manager red boy he told me same thing so it's a very incredible explosive story but the lesson in this story is this if you're gonna pop that shit be ready for the repercussions any street nigga know that wow so the pistol whipping story is what you heard i don't know i wasn't there how the fuck i pulled i'm somewhere laid up with a funky ratchet ass hole and pulled off the pole and broke trying to hustle them cramps okay but what did you say mama told you told me what right you say mama told me about the mouth mama told me plenty of shit we used to hang together plenty so do you when you think about do you feel like these stories keep coming up just because it's the way the internet moves because you heard the the sex tape thing from pippa ken on here with bobo and me you know that went crazy like but it he i'm gonna tell you something about ken ken never said who was what he said i knew a story what did he say he said i knew a story he said i remember a story being told no he said he was there he said pimp had a tape mm-hmm he didn't say who was on the tape he didn't he didn't say but people start know who was on the tape wait a minute i know no but he didn't say who was on the tape or anything like that but when you hear these stories you say you know how would you know how would i know you didn't stop yeah like how would i not know so much that i do know why would i not so you know who was on the tape yeah okay so there was a tape yeah but it wasn't pimp on the tape that's what i heard too see a lot of people hear what they want to hear like i'm on the internet talking to people every day that's common yeah pimp see had a sex tape would be on say that's why jay-z knocked them out come on man you niggas are just patching and someone shit together you ain't even him what you think you hear man hey man these people special man these people special because some people would say okay if he wasn't on the sex tape then why would he have the tape um industry shit happens why niggas wind up with other people change why niggas always wind up with other people property shit happens you down with old pp man you other people property i don't know sure so when you so you've heard so many stories about you know pimp and everything i want to go into the fact of i'm gonna push forward uh boosie yeah you when the first time you heard a boosie uh way back in the day um he actually bought boosie and webby when they were teens uh to big jack barbershop big jack being one of the cats that was in the 4bm before they broke off to be u g k you know i'm saying they had a little setup in the back of his barbershop he was like a master barber and port author so he bought uh boosie and webby over there he talked about it way back then but i just wasn't back off in the rap yet like that i was lost in the streets fucking off so i've been hurt about him and then when i saw him you know i mean i didn't know what i was looking at i don't think nobody knew those kids was gonna become what they became you know i mean but i've been around them cats a bunch of times it took a while before webby opened up and really chopped it up with me but he did you know i mean and then the times i've been around boosie uh it was times when it was too crunk we was at the club in some part of Louisiana and he pulled up you know i'm saying about 12 deep everybody got on t-shirts look like nightgowns and shit and they were back in the day and we're standing out there talking to d solo from street flavor out of houston so he actually got that footage and so pimp introduces all whoop whoop whoop and i chop it up with boosie briefly see him again in ace town same get up them niggas try to grab a chain off of bad at them and bad at them bad bad and then got them over and i had a whoop around that whole mind you know come on man i was all i'm saying but then i met him again bun introduced me to him me guerrillas old boosie and shit then i met him again at the little wang show at the cajun dome me and vicious opened up and i chopped it up with him briefly but he was north and at the time i didn't know why but at the time him and him and why he had a little you know i mean so it was always something going on going on when i was around him but he always was cool with a nigga when i was around him i asked you to ask to say this like that boosie early on to wipe me down and on back to when you're talking about versus the boosie that we deal with the data blad interviewing boosie uh the the boosie who built out his estate and got his kids name which is so dope uh streets with his kids name and in the in the in around his house and he built in his own neighborhood out um what's the difference in those two boosies that the boosie before he was caught on a murder case when they had him on death row versus the boosie we deal with today who just actually uh still dealing with the monitor on his leg right now right like like what's the difference in these boosies i think it's a beautiful combination of uh maturity um the type of life he's lived in the things he's seen man it's it's about as closest to to the end of your life you can get on death row my i should mention this but my brother you know what i'm saying just went through fighting death or life but we'll get back to it okay so him coming out and now free he's one of them dinosaurs because he was young enough but he was always around the og so he soaked up all that game then he was with an independent label so he soaked up all that game now he come back the og or the young niggas like he's living this this combination of that young niggas og shit at the same time and he's maximizing it we know what the business is when the niggas jump on that mic and say fuck Charleston white or whomever you know i mean so he perpetuated in that one book an algae role in the major label level so that's why he's going on these villas you know i'm saying doing this orlando brown type gangster shit you know i mean yeah that's hard it's a hell of a combination yeah i like it i like the way you broke that down yeah yeah what you said about what boosty said about um Dallas he said Dallas is his biggest platform he ain't good back this is 150k Dallas his biggest platform this is where he get the most love and everything like that but they shot him in Dallas but because he got shot in Dallas he said the only way he'll come back is if 150 thousand dollars that makes perfect sense because if somebody almost took your life in a place most people wouldn't even return but 150 racks will assure him he could put that security team in place the way he needs to he can cross his t's and die his eyes and come give the fans that still love him in Dallas a good show if he come do this bitch half ass somebody might finish the motherfucking job so 150 he already sat there and sketched that shit out where that shit gonna be delegated it that's what i feel like it's some way to look at it i thought about that that that's what he'd want for the security but he came and performing Tyler many times already since then if somebody really was trying to get him they'll drive down to Tyler go get him if they wanted to yeah they would but what cake he baked in Tyler uh it could be a fucking uh three-story sheet cake baked in Dallas this is home turf dumb nigga can whip up all kind of shit you know me yeah so and just going down into the east Texas like that ain't that easy the way you're making it sound yeah they don't know these niggas down there it's a bunch of niggas down there niggas everywhere man niggas man but but you know when you think about just Boosie and his legend the way that he has man he's massaged our ears with a good sound ever since he's been doing this thing man and you know i p to pimp but but with pimp you know saucing it up because pimp had a lot to do it i think i was telling bobo that the other day like you know pimp was was definitely uh a big piece of that puzzle the way that whole thing came together and to this day i've been enjoying it man shout out to boosie boo straight up and webby and webby webby webby man that nigga there man he's true to it too and loyal as they come man he love pimp man when i went to um jackson mississippi and i was able to witness a very intimate boosie show he was about to get locked up and the show was something i never seen before because it was packed his head wall to wall but it was all these people that was in unisys that was directly connected to his energy and everything he was telling them they was hanging on to every word he like man my diabetes been fucking with me and i'm thinking to myself damn why would he let a rap show talk about that but then everybody like oh man like everybody this is his family his fancy his fans are different his family is his mother fucking family then he like man i might be going through this time and he like something about somebody then he started crying and shit everybody in the goddamn crowd was damn near crying i'm like where the fuck am i you know what i mean so i understood like man this this boosie shit this is some different shit wow it was somebody got mad at me about the a boosie jz comparison i don't i can't remember who it was oh i know i remember who it was now yeah because i i basically i wasn't saying that boosie but boosie to i like to us i mean i don't i'm not from the east coast right so when i relate i relate to niggas that talk in the south okay like if you put something i'm like that niggas talking that talk you know because i know you know you might have had to you know eat you know uh roman noodle they do that up there but down here we might have had to go to the well to get some water right we it just might be a different way we did it you know i'm saying not saying there's no no takeaway from nobody else because i love them too up there they look like us but when you hear the sounds of what boosie do and in the way his music come across and the way his it's therapy for for people who've been locked up that's people who've been you know i'm saying who've been locked up in the in the south and who've been through this stuff man if you ain't been through it you ain't gonna be able to understand what i'm coming from you know what i'm saying but what he does and what and even like webby holding him down when he was gone the best he could right he been on realized that that was heavy i love seeing webbiter giving the role and when boosie come on boosie say man you know that niggas are supposed to be in there talking man y'all ain't got boosie webby out here talking and doing interviews man and we're getting it in the best he could best he could man and he always been you know i'm saying a good dude when i was around like he he led a lot of people around him that's one of the things that i watched i was like damn i wish i was closer to them because i would suggest man watch this perimeter there's just too many just hey i'm around type dudes like anybody and everybody but that's his energy uh just with pimping and we didn't move like that we move totally different but at the same time that's that's their camp i respected if that's how they move that's but we just didn't move like that so when i used to hang with them i'd be like damn man the perimeter's been broken by just so many people could just walk up and blend in i want i want to ask you about trail burgers we went down and hung out with bun ate that trail burger and you say you ate one um just how big is that and i think you said they sold a bunch of damn burgers this month i just seen a thing come out of how many burgers they sold like uh it was it was a crazy number to be honest with you but but i know the first month they say you made a million dollars you know like yeah what um how do you feel about what bun is accomplished in trail burgers and just how was your feeling when you went to trail burger he treated us very well it was one thing i felt kind of weird about but you know that's maybe me asking too much but at the same time he treated us really well um the food was good and what i would hope is that he could expand that thing to anywhere and everywhere in texas and wherever to be welcomed his success it only opens doors for more trail niggers so i want my nigga to go as high as you know i'm saying the universe and the god is gonna take him um and that's what's up i just my legend i just be wanting some time for people to implement it in the places that it fit you know i mean like they play a lot of southern music and shit uh niggas got to tell me hey man that's shit you gotta ain't jamming and it can't be true because the fans already said it and then the most major nigga in life who i wanted to display my talent to was pimp and bun so when pimp told me oh yeah nigga this this was up you should be having some shitty ass beats nobody can ever tell me different but it's like my contribution um anything i do is like it's it's swept to the sky like man most niggers had labels and backers and you know i'm saying money from you know whomever to propel them to be visible i missed a boat with the distributors when everybody was getting out there going to all the small towns i came in just a little late and it's my own fault because i stopped rapping for like seven years lost in the streets on some bullshit but i love my music i gotta i got a loyal fan base fucking with it it's just sometimes some people i feel should line it up where it go you know mean so you're telling me like the the esg's uh the other og artists and shit you're telling me he's a leo records camp being that playlist when curators on spotify and all these other players all these other playlists throws it in there without anybody telling them why does it belong amongst that with strangers you know i mean uh so i just wish some niggers would give me my motherfucking card place me where i belong or hey don't i do it my god damn self that's what i'm just saying you you definitely can do it yourself in these days and times right and you're doing that quit trying to hide a six three nigger three hundred and some pound god damn i want you to tell me i'm gonna bump in the rock i want you to tell me about uh uh also um what you think about kiffy d man getting locked up uh after 30 years you know 27 years or whatever i think about 27 years 26 years 27 um going on a blade blade say he's a investigative journalist this is the first time that he says that his video will be used in the court of law to convict someone um what do you think about that and do you feel like this is the first time no i don't i don't think it's the first time i just think that bona fide street niggers should not get enticed by these motherfucking cameras and these microphones the conversations i have when i talk about crazy shit it's more just physical little boy shit fights and shit like that that happened 25 30 years ago you're talking about shit that ain't got no statue limitations and you're sitting your big gangster ass in front of these cameras behind these microphones too comfortable incriminating yourself i've been in entertainment so goddamn long i'm damn near knowing what i'm talking about every time i come in here harm or approach it a gangster street nigga ain't got that type of meticulous type thought he's a street nigga he got thoughts of the street shit he's done i'm not a street nigga i was a lost kid that made some choices that wind up doing some street shit and learn how to do some gangster shit but at the end of the day i'm just a nigga out of there's a grown man that take care of his business but these are bona fide street niggers apart of historical moments two-part there'll never be another and you comfortable talking about this shit yeah man because i was doing right in the book about in the book we wrote a whole book about it man you better talk about some shit that don't make no sense he wrote a whole book he wrote a book and he went and talked about it on several platforms um like like ballstock he went on there and he just told him his story uh that night he was in the car some people say he was driving he said he was driving you know it's it's wild stuff going on with that allegedly he was the driver his nephew was that busting out the wonder you know i mean do you know do you know how many of those stories i might have you know what i'm talking about nigga i'm from boat architecture catalanx over lectures it is what it is and it's gonna be what it's gonna be and it's gonna do what the fuck it's gonna do know i'm talking about 50 000 population niggas on top of niggas niggas is colliding and clashing like a motherfucker but you think i'm gonna get on some raps and go to talking about that man all the street shit i did didn't even land in my raps because the nigga told me when i went to houston he told me a detrimental story about a nigga that was performing they got popped on stage damn and you know why because when you crossed that line talking about your artist your whereabouts are promoted live on stage saturday 10 p.m be there be square bring your pistol you know i mean and you on stage you're there you're gonna be there so if your op want to get you goddamn he got all the opportunity to do it he can get you on your way in on your way out or he can get your ass on stage and so what the nigga told me that when i was getting back into my music then another nigga told me some other shit i'm like in your window so all my raps i'll be saying some crazy ass shit but at the same time i'm not implementing a nigga who ain't got no voice i got plenty niggas that we've agreed as men hey we're gonna let this shit die but what if i get on raps and go to yeah nigga remember i'm bushing your motherfucking head fuck you bitch yeah nigga and i say a 100,000 250,000 copies this nigga that got this memory multiplied over and over and over in his head he going to the store to try to forget about a nigga passed by blaring it out the car his homeboys all that nigga say fuck yo bitch you know he talking about you that nigga gonna feel some type of way that's real that's so real um so i think i'll hit you with this question come on zero gonna ride blue and i'm gonna ride red yeah that's what pimp said yeah um red mm-hmm is where there are any gangs any gang affiliates anything to do with gangs in the port or at the area did he just like red i'm just going by his verse he said zero gonna ride blue and zero you know you know you hear stories of him allegedly being a part of the hoover's uh uh is what was the deal did did put off to have any people out there that believe you know that that wrote with the the gang the blue red blue crypt thing most definitely i would have to say that arrived you know i'm saying early early 90 you know what i mean um pimp wasn't affiliated with any of that he just you got to dig it he's an entertainer so he know the game he know what's going to spark the interest red turn heads then you said on turn yeah so he he was so many steps ahead of the average person because he was an artist he's a creator you know what i mean he plays instruments you know i mean so he spent a lot of time cultivating and taking care of his business to become who he wanted to be artist wise now that street shit yeah it's it's Bloods and Crips and PA it is you know i mean and i know a lot of them how did them 50 000 you got about what percentage is Bloods and Crips oh shit it's it's it's a small percentage because that 50 000 also is talking about you know i'm saying everybody in that area but it's a major part because that's the shit that's going to make the paper all the time like i know the canvas of Port Arthur that people locked their doors about you know i mean people buy double barrel shot why is this actually coming from yeah i got a movie i'm in the movie coming out man shout out to do we do he just dropped the movie i do a little cameo in it yeah that's all trick me to come get in the movie tell me i'm big i was i was that movie we didn't get extra in that motherfucker he was extra any ever be an extra in that motherfucker hey when they hurt my feeling nigga i don't come outside and let's just real business you know me but that my little nigga man he doing some major shit and uh yeah yeah his movie coming out soon and shout out to my niggas in east texas now in that movie i got a hell of a role it's called parole money three yeah i heard about that one yeah and i'm also like on the soundtrack of it so it's like strategic ways of getting that music out now i'm trying to land that shit on movies and if you notice i use it in all my youtube videos and shit like this so we get it out there the best way we can but yeah the characteristics and the personality and the charisma it's always who i've always been but growing up in certain environments you know i mean you're not comfortable being yourself but i've reached this this this pinnacle in life not a pinnacle but i've reached a point in life well i'm myself i'm back myself yeah because pinnacle is the top yeah i ain't got that's why i corrected that shit well well he's a man like i said man i always enjoy having you on the show man i hope we did your justice like boss talk one-on-one i always try to do you become an era you was here before everybody i don't know if you realize that far as the pmc stories you were one you were the first one to you and k lc all right you know that was the early on and people don't realize like i say i always tell a story about how god put you in my life i met you in the parking lot the store been here 17 years come on you introduced me to steve billow i heard bun talk about it you was the one that basically i called you and say man i need steve billow you went founded for me after that steve billow calls me back after he come on the show say hey man bobo you need to interview bobo bobo don't want to come on the show and i say okay well she bobo can come on show i don't care what god who the hell is bobo is what i said let's be real that's what i said and then like bobo you know lost his baby now i said damn show here he's like yeah man i'm like get that nigga to me and that's how this whole thing wrote out that was bobo's first interview uh you like i said you was first then came steve billow then came bobo and then after that you know we were we had today mean you even celebrated pimp together come on you know it's like on his birthday mean you plan stuff like that and uh people don't realize we take this so you know so serious about trying to make sure we keep the name alive didn't bun appreciated us bumby said he watches us he watches the show he'd be busy but when he got time and he checks some shit out and it ain't cockamamie he's gonna fuck with it you know what i mean yeah and sometime i lose people in the sauce because i'm all over the place but it's my own method to do what i did and i can't really reveal it i just have to keep working the way i work you know i mean because what works for you may not work for me well i just like the way that you hold true to who you are you know and you and you definitely mention god in it you know what i mean god to god the thing is man we getting older man i just like i said just the homeboy and and like i told bun we're not going to be here forever now you know and and to be here now is is so it's it's live man because look at all the people that are not here when you start going down that road you start going running into digest pimp but look at all of these different rappers all of these different family members all these different uncles and anies and brothers and sisters disappearing and we're still here yeah that's a reason to believe man that's a reason to put god first and we're not here you mention god i have a brother fresh out because we older guys man so yeah i think that's so live and your kids get to hear you you know that you ain't too caught up in yourself to understand that god is real and there will be i was that's real it's always just going through too much real shit and let me say this before my mom passed my brother was on death row wow he did about eight nine years in that thing and they were gonna go ahead and take him out but it was some white folks that fought for him i'm talking about two for nil and and just recently they brought him back to court and and resented them because he was on a capital murder it was only two options but they was happy that it was able to get him off the death and he got life without the possibility of parole and he's happy about it wow so it gives me a bittersweet type feeling like i still have my brother but not in a physical form and my mom said before she died i don't want them folks to kill my baby wow i hope they don't kill my baby i pray to god they don't kill my baby so mama they're not gonna kill your baby that's hard that's hard that's big step now that's where that right there's something to celebrate see see people be caught up in they self and don't understand man this here is heavy like people think they got a problem when you start looking at somebody else's problem and you start to find out yours they just as bad as you think it is you know what i'm saying so man thank you so much man let me let me see these hats man and you brought me something didn't you oh yeah yeah yeah man let them uh let's see what we got got going here man y'all brought me something man y'all brought me something over here man young he's a what's up baby i told him you boy what's going on i ain't asking for no shirts and what oh these man i'm blessing you gang come on come on man you know i'm gonna wear this shirt stop what size you well man i bought a large i'm gonna wear a lord who need a lord what about you medium medium or large depends on how run see how consider it i am man you brought all the right sizes now check it out i ain't bringing the niggas to a piece now i bought you some options but you know what i mean but i got you uh a bunch of hats here man and uh hope you and john that's what is all about man trigger diabetes and i also follow me on youtube i'm gonna finesse this mic while they mess me right by the gear okay yeah i'll help you out get that black hat out there let me see what we got there man yeah this is the official like you say the official miss your makeup i always wanted to ask you what you be saying walk one what i mean just like what you just said what's going on walk one yes i'm gonna start saying that you know look at this right now these are them true hats man of course you see the legendary ppc on the side of these hats will yeah he's been watching boss talk he watches this man he supports us this is good no he wanted i really really no support me it's a lot of niggas i hear say it but i know this nigga got my back and that's why i rock with him i don't play by them at all niggas hollywood i call this nigga when i'm in la i remember i've been calling you i've been doing that a long time and yeah we'll be you can spit boxing and lip wrestling on the phone let me ask you a question on them hats because you do all the flatbeds you ever thought about doing a they can bend them you know that like the dad looking hats yeah like these that's the dad or is that what you call it yeah yeah that's what people call uh i just haven't found my uh my audience for that yet yeah but you know i can take it i call that baseball i can you know they wear these and bend them they can make this the same way yeah yeah yeah uh my manufacture i just have to know i'm talking about like if you wanted if somebody wanted an individual and done like that you can get it done leeds was telling us that they do them right you know what i mean and sell them just like that right there they'll take one just like this and do it for the customer right i think it costs like five or six bucks more but then you own damn hat no they wear it they do it on the machine they make that whole they make that whole right because cardboard i've seen what they do uh on the machine man they be steaming them bitches and beating this shit out of me manufacture semi videos let me know how man thank you so much man like i said man thank you for these gifts man thank y'all man open that open that medium shirt we're gonna take the medium of the lord incredible job i already got a minimum large over here okay give an exposure this is what he has on right there okay okay man it's going down man thank you so much for coming on the show he's man we love you bro you boss talk about one for ever in a day nigga that's a long time when you're in a day that's been a ticket man it's been another great same with a boss talk one on one what a boss is talk and tell y'all