 Did you ever see the movie War Dogs? Yes, I did. I did. I actually I recommend that to all of my students Like that's yeah, that's what we all go through, right? I mean, except that we don't cheat. We don't cheat, right? But we all have to go through that and I tell people You know, I try and tell all of you I said, listen if your company is just getting started Maybe you should be a sub first, right? Become a sub I learned a lot of about a day contract as a sub Because I work with Alaska native firms who have eight a's for a hundred years However, you know, however long the program's been around they've been taking advantage of the program But they taught me a lot. They taught me the rules Um, they taught me about contracts about, you know, how they're great Yeah, they're great teachers of how to navigate these programs They've not only done it longer than anybody, but my understanding is they don't ever graduate and they're some are quite large so they're really um Awesome, if you can find one that'll take you on as a sub. I mean, that's that's daunting in itself I've never been able to get one to take me as a sub But I've worked on it and I've got friends that are how so I'll tell you an interesting story about me actually They the the laskin natives and I and I tell people this They are so large, right? Because they're like there's conglomerates and and all the ones I work with are a hundred million plus But they all are a subsidiary of a three billion dollar, right? parent company and they never graduate and their their sole sources are Much larger than ours so they can do a single sole source of like 10 million. They don't have to do four million dollar increments They could do a 10 million dollar sole source But what I found was the greatest advantage because you mentioned this When you were trying to go and become a prime over in afghanistan, you didn't have the bonding I didn't have bonding either But they bond the whole project and they let me do a project that was greater than my bonding limits Because they didn't require the bond Oh, beautiful. Can you imagine that? Awesome. So I'm telling people listen This is better than being a prime because as a prime you got to have the bond to cover like to do a five million dollar project These guys gave me a five million dollar contract with no bond And they paid me on time Wow, they paid it just as quickly as the government paid them. They paid us cool and But like you said, you know, I had a history with them. I had done some projects with them in the past Some smaller jobs. I've proven myself But I just tell companies that it's a great way to kind of like, you know Leap forward and then get past performance experience and then you can grow your Not only your your revenues, but you can grow all your your your history on paper And bonding because now you have a five million dollar project on the books Super. Yeah, so that that's uh, that worked for me with the alaskan natives, but you know, I like that idea of Talking to some of the 8a graduate firms um And partnering with them. Wow. So that uh, that was the secret sauce. I like that