 We are live. We are not Yeah, well, what a nightmare. Yeah for some of just for those that watch us, you know every single week Which is Yeah She's dead, but I hear they got good reception beyond the grave What's it your our moms are watching together then? Hey, yeah, they the the drama that's been going on with trying to live stream to get teams working And with OBS and the nightmare that that all was I finally this weekend in one experiment I deleted OBS entirely and I went and installed the streamlabs OBS Version I was already using the virtual cam and I just thought Why not use the version that I don't have to go install an add-on to make something work? I'll just play with that and it worked immediately first try clouds the God rays came down and angelic wires So that's nice, but there are some there's some more some caveats and like I was just saying instead of it Streaming directly to my personal feed. It can only go to pages And the with the setup that I have and I'll also continue to play with it So I didn't go find it and rename it and then do a watch party over on the office 365 community page But now we are live so we can take your questions But generally good morning officially the beneficiary of all that effort Yeah, morning Christian. How is it there in sunny, Utah? It was beautiful for walking the dogs this morning I got up just before six and it was already bright Of course the Sun what hadn't cleared the mountains, but it was already a bit warm I don't think we're gonna be howls 105 anywhere close to that But we because we have where we are I mean, it's just between the two valleys to the top of Utah Valley and if you've never been here I mean this way the wind comes through it the you know The the bottom of the Salt Lake Valley the top of the Utah Valley and it's the clouds roll in and so it could be You know hundred degrees and then suddenly start raining and As I described it before telling the guys like my first experience back in the 80s in the college Going camping in the winters I was used to going camping like in the Sierra Nevada as I grew up in Northern, California And we camp in the foothills and go up into the mountains and in August You know, I have no fear of any moisture from the air There's zero danger and it snowed on us and hailed on us in August here in Utah and So the mountains are unpredictable so it Makes it interesting not a lot of swimming pools that a personal swimming pools here I imagine they become just holes in the ground. Yeah So it's supposed to be a high of 75 0% humidity here in Cincinnati today We don't get a whole lot of days like that and we haven't recently but the last few Few consecutive days have been nice. We've had people out Over and we've been on the back patio Socially distancing while we socialize and my wife strung up some Christmas lights and created a nice little environment back there right behind our house is a green space So you hear all sorts of wildlife and what's going on and it's really kind of nice Nice and how it's just in the bunker waiting for it to be freakishly hot Yeah, I just say that When we tell how to Your walls are melting it's different stay safe We've already had one day over 100 at 109 And what's really freakish about it is isn't the last two days. It has clouded up and rained in the afternoon Arizona is You know been May through June is the typical convection oven. It's well over 100 degrees and the humidity sits between 5 and 10 percent starting about the 4th of July right in about that the first week We get a monsoon flow up off of the growth of California and then we have one soon whether where it's 30 40 percent humidity all of the time and we get we get rainstorms big ugly thunderstorms every afternoon So So the fact that we had two of those days the last Let's see it was Friday and Saturday and Sunday We're there that they're about a month and a half early So it's the I've never seen that here. It's freakish weather we're changing Global weather patterns and just general climate. I'm not surprised. I suspect Arizona and many of the hot areas are going to get even hotter During summer months and whatnot Sadly that wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, I Wonder at what point we Declare that it's an area is just too hot to inhabit. I don't think that will happen anytime soon but you know, you look at some of the temperatures that happen down there in Arizona and in Vegas places like that, you know 113 You can be walking out on the strip. It doesn't feel exactly like that because the moisture just immediately evaporates as it comes to the surface of your skin but Anytime I've gotten to a hotel. It's like Brushing all this salt off. It's like what happened and why am I so thirsty? Oh, yeah well, let's If you guys have any questions that you've run into over the last few days that you want to kick things off with Mike is going to be Dialing in here. So here's I think Nelson. Yes. Oh, cool No, I was just looking at the office 365 community and one of the new posts by Georgie saying he signed into his account when he tries to open Outlook web It shows an error at the same time. He's successfully added this account to his smartphone He has office 365 e1 teams web and desktop and other apps are working perfectly I looked at your screenshot, Georgie and That is indicative if you were to open up Your browser tools like f12 and look what's happening on the network tab my suspicion is you're caught in a loop a Redirection loop that commonly occurs with claims authentication So I would look to your system to see if you have any active proxies Make sure everything that needs to be whitelisted for office 365 because if I understood correctly From your message your mobile device is working fine It's just your desktop and so that's going to be device specific So check your proxies check your whitelists. Make sure you don't have something like a fiddler proxy enabled in the background Fiddler sets itself up as a transparent proxy For those who haven't used it fiddler is kind of a web diagnostics tool many of those tools like fiddler and postman Set themselves up as transparent proxies so they can look at your HTTPS stream and when they're looking at that HTTPS stream the only way they can do that is by effectively conducting a man in the middle attack on your system where they Terminate the SSL tunnel look at the encrypted packets and then re-encrypt them and send them to their destination and when that happens Sometimes you get into these weird redirect loops if you see a lot of 302s, you know, those are redirects HTTP 302s and a good sign that something like this is happening. So check that out I'll try to also post that as a response in the news group here or in the Facebook group So that's that's the end of my first diatribe Oh Yeah, no, I'm not celebrating the end It's okay if you are And Mike welcome. Hey Mike Hey guys, how you doing pretty good? Hey holding up you know, it's Moving right along with First we got the pandemic and now we've got all this other crazy stuff going on. It's just it's getting exhausting What it is a life in general is exhausting. I've got a shirt that says 2020 written by Stephen King Yeah, I had an extra one I give it to my wife. So yeah, it's People ask about that six dollar t-shirt that I had that's the the dumpster fire that said 2020 on it that I wore Oh and today's t-shirt I've seen that one before When you're feeling anti social Shirt it earlier too for those that are reservoir dog And or Lord the Rings fans That's reservoir dogs. Yeah With the all the bad guys from Lord of the Rings. So Yeah, love that. So which of them lost their ear. Oh, no, that was the cop who lost his ear So that is we've got a few folks that are watching the livestream If you have any questions you'd like us to tackle then feel free to to ask right now At least right now you got four mvps on here with different backgrounds and we're happy to Take on any questions. I'm kind of streaming through going through the Last few days of questions to see if there's anything that we're missing Uh Uh, oh here's a question. So it's a team's question Um, is it uh, nini who's asking this? So I'm adding docs into files To a planner in the same team when adding I get the question add from teams or share point Does anyone know the difference? ultimately there's Not a difference I mean because team storage is backed by share point. So So I guess it's just your How you choose to add it or how you access it. I think it's more of a An accessibility thing Making it easier for people to use The systems and links they're familiar with but from a technical standpoint the implementation on the back end is the same They both come out of share point. So yeah It's kind of odd though that it would ask for that You know difference Yeah, people that are working inside teams Especially just the rush of people that are you know using teams for the first time They don't have a lot of experience with moving files from share point probably more relevant would be Do you want to move it from one drive or local? They'd be more familiar with Yeah, and even with one drive. It's the same answer. It's backed by share point. That's your share point my site Your documents library. So it's that palm olive moment. I need to have a picture of mage with somebody Mage, you know, I need to have that as fingers in the palm olive That's right. It should be on my stream deck. I should just have the image and I hit a button and mage appears on screen. So Yeah, I need to set this up. I actually I want to set it up. So I have you know, the uhf like lost signal there with the tone Beep, you know, I want to have that screen with that sound effect on a button together So it just you know something happens and I can hit that Yeah Uh, okay, so that's a good question. Let's see. Um questions about licensing Before you do that had your uh tweet jam the other day I'm gonna post this in the In the chat comments you get to drink from the fire hose This is just wrong but so funny on so many levels Now I need to pull this up. Let me see what you're talking about here Yeah It's a link to the that video segment From the from uhf the movie with weird owl if you haven't seen it It's not particularly good movie, but it does have some funny You gotta get past the ad first Yeah This guy's crazy It's hilarious Oh boy, so So on my there's another one here on my student account the office 365 is free But online only is there a way to download the apps and use them offline and on my laptop So the answer to that is probably not. I think the student edition is equivalent to the e1 and The e1 does not include the offline client app. So sorry Angle angel, I'm I'm not sure how to pronounce that You have my recommendation for folks that are that and I realized that If you got a student version, you've got the free digital, you know the online the cloud versions of those But the office the the home edition is what it's it's 100 bucks is 99 bucks And you then get all the downloads and up to five devices Six six six devices even better And you heard me going on with howl about microsoft 365 and the change in name from pro plus to microsoft 365 apps I'm like, oh no, it's share point 2013 all over again Apps apps apps. It's like that moment in being john malkovich if you've seen the movie where he goes into his own head And the only thing people are saying is malkovich malkovich malkovich and everyone looks like him That's apps with share point 2013. And now we're going to get that with microsoft 365 office 365. So Bravo microsoft. You didn't learn the first time around Hmm Yeah, what we need now is uh with apps and everything teams named teams And groups is what we need is a product called Teams groups, you know for apps or the app, you know the teams groups app or something That's a completely different thing, but let's just name it that group apps for teams. Yeah Yeah Not a good one No, you say those three things together. It's like crossing the streams and ghostbusters We laugh and we grimace and yet, you know, it's going to happen Some marketing person who Clearly doesn't know the history is going to come in and propose the idea and somebody is going to be drinking too much coffee And not paying attention during a meeting And it'll go through They'll go, why did we ever do this? Everybody's screaming And further than that, it's it's not going to be the last time I guarantee you It's not going to be the last time This is a merry-go-round You see the same horses again Uh, let me see everything else anything else that came up, you know, Mike Anything in the last week that you've run into Well, I just want to make a comment, uh, with Mr. Donahue Talking about John Malkovich a little bit of pop culture. We're getting into there So make that I'm sorry But uh Anybody look at space force or watch space force yet on netflix. I have not I saw like this Steve Carell's new thing Yeah, it's kind of ironic how it came out with the launch. I don't know if anybody watched the launch this weekend, of course Yeah, it was incredible, but uh There is a all-star cast on there And I got to tell you I'm not impressed by the show itself, but John Malkovich is there and uh, you know Yep, he's he's the lead scientist and and uh all kinds of people so Everybody can go out and look at that and get their own opinion of it but uh I thought the launch this weekend was phenomenal Watch it. I can't believe it took two hours just to get from one hatch to another hatch Because he had to set up all the cameras Yeah, it's all like a laborious thing to set make sure all the cameras were in the right position for You know the big show Well, I kind of think nothing can go on a timeline in space Yeah, you just do things as you do them not too fast I always think of that when you see like Something that with that that meticulous of a setup of a camera shot And I think of that guy. What is it survivor man that he does that where he talks about it where he He ever seen that show guys So it's so it's everybody knows the what's his name, uh, um bear grills like his show uh So he was like uk military guy and so he does like a survival show But he's got like a camera crew with him And so there's a little bit, uh, you know, there was some fluff out there the media a few years back where they staged some Situations like yeah, you watch the show 30 seconds into it. You're like, yeah, this is pretty well produced. It's still a great show But survivor man is one guy. He's literally he's out nowhere and it's just him So there'll be a camera shot a still shot and him walk and wander off over the hill in the distance of mile away He then has to come all the way but he does that for the shot Comes back gets his camera and goes and so he's talked about like that That difference where he'll do that setup But then it's just him with like oh, wow It's just uh, it's an amazing show to watch. It's it doesn't have the again It's not the sling production, but it's just it's so much more realistic Uh than bear grills send the guy some predator drones or something At least do the camera shots Is that the one is the predator drones the one that does the has the follow cam so you could Send it off and it just uh, you have it focus on an individual and just goes All I know is that the predator is one of the drones that carries missiles. So if you see one of those in the sky Yeah Best to get into a hardened area. It's either delivering an amazon package or Amazon package yeah from the US government Hey, I wouldn't be surprised when you're gonna actually buy missiles on amazon Amazon government Yeah Log into an amazon government Well, well, you know, we keep spending money that we don't actually have and uh, and he'll be able to be Bezos will be able to come in and buy us pretty soon in the whole Here's a question. We kind of discussed this a while back Um two three weeks ago says is it possible to lock a folder? Uh to particular users in an open channel and teams So you've got user you want to control access to a specific set of users or or restrict a user So the answer is like if you so if somebody has access to a team They can see and get access to all public Channels and conversations and content for that team Yeah, but But you can go in and create a private channel that'll be restrictive They can't get into that without having access and then the only other way of restricting it for that person. There's two ways um One is that you can set up a restrictive permissions Uh a folder or not a folder a a list a doc library in SharePoint and then make that available and invite and only those that you want The other way you can do that is in the existing structure. Um It again locks everyone out by default but is to put a lock on the uh item itself the the document Uh, so lock the excel file or you know, so the file level restriction password protected um The other option well If you do something in SharePoint Everyone can still have access to the folder And things will show up for them but If somebody does not have access through SharePoint will Teams be smart enough to do security trimming so that somebody doesn't see what they don't have access to I don't know that it happens at the teams level Unless it's the action Or the permission setting is coordinated through teams Because you know you I can we can set up a you know a SharePoint channel We all all four of us have access to it But I could choose to leave you know a create a security group with mike and create a folder within that um The document library that's backing the channel And I could choose to leave mike out of the security group break inheritance apply permissions to the folder Mike would not have access to documents in that folder, but he would see that folder And if I set it up right, I could also provide traversal permission so that he could at least see what's there Even though he would not be able to access it But the question becomes Is Team smart enough to security trim items in that folder that he doesn't have access to read or write That's a that's probably worthy of a test at some point. Um, I don't know the answer to that, but it could be figured out Uh quickly enough So if you followed that it's definitely possible. It's just how user-friendly is it and you can't adjust those settings through teams I followed it I followed it, but it just seemed like uh for the For the average layman administrator. That seems a little difficult A little complex Well, you get to some of the answers to these permissions questions. They unfortunately do get down into the weeds Um, I don't recommend Doing some of these things because you know, you're kind of working against the product at that point You know, do what it's good at and do it the way it does it natively so it can support you rather than fight against it Neil Hodgkin Hodgkins and just uh Commentators is only with private channels and not And so not breaking inheritance and teams which will make a total mess Which is kind of the point this is uh, but there's things that you can do that'll go out and be on depending on what your requirements are Your needs are um, but the recommendation is stick with what the tool can do out of the box And neil you can join us out here I'll throw that out there, but neil neil is shy So but neil is a very bright guy Yeah, I bred that somewhere Uh Good times good times. Yeah neil if you'd like to uh join I can send you forward to the link to the team's meeting always good to have more People in the party happy faces there So I started to go in as well and uh comment on some of these that were addressing live um Yeah Here neil. Hey, hang on. I'm gonna send you an invite. So you guys chat for a second. Let me forward this over Talk amongst yourselves yeah So I had a question for you guys, uh around the office 365 domains Uh, so and I've been researching this a little bit and it's kind of a You know, I have my own home subscription, right? But then you guys know we have our subscriptions to Our uh our award And I've always been kind of paranoid, right? So june july 1st comes And I don't know how that works for some people's, you know, we lose that access and yeah as a possibility But I understand now That there are maybe some finagling work around you can do To have your own custom domain for an office 365 home subscription Because usually you have to use, you know, it's just outlook.com or you can use the Uh, what is it that the back door control domain on microsoft whatever dot on microsoft.com But you were never able to actually assign a Vanity domain if you will a custom domain Unless it was tied to go daddy. I think something like that. But I hear now you can actually do that or not They may know Um, I just got something on that and I'm gonna try and see if I can find it I've got mcdonough family online But I've got it tied to my collab talk, but then again, I went through go daddy. So I don't know. Yeah, okay Yeah, I was just wondering because uh, you know, if that ever goes away, I wanted the ability to continue that so There is Ellie moe guys How's it going? I'm doing That sounds really Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm the whole new world of working in azure now versus sharepoint after 20 years I finally gave up working in sharepoint. So Oh, we're sorry to see you go Well, I still hang around. I still hang out with the pfes and people and you guys so Um, I'll still be around Good deal. You just you know, it's in my blood. It's in my dna. What can I do? Yeah, it does leave an indelible mark on all of us. I think What do you move? What are you moving on to? I'm a p.m. Now in the azure engineering team Working on a large-scale black multi-vm and data migrations from random from competing clouds It's it's it's fun. Interesting shoes to fill Are you specifically on the data the past side like data migrations in terms of sequel? Uh title great sir. It's it's more associated the fast track team. So my prior role, um, I was the lead engineer for Migration tooling technology, you know microsoft acquired mover Yeah Early recently. Well, I was the one of the engineers that was doing all of the piloting work for that in terms Of our proof of concepts and can we embed them? Okay, so I learned a ton of linux doing that. That was interesting um the I decided to kind of look at migration in large-scale migrations has been something that I was kind of interested in it was kind of exciting so In azure, we have enough we have a fast track team in azure. So within that team We have engineers and pms people were kind of surprised. I went to a p.m. Roll versus an engineering roll Um, there was some personal reasons for that related to my us green card and things which I couldn't really change my job title I had to keep it to p.m um, then So now I work basically with you know, I have customers Obviously after obvious reasons, I will mention the customer's names But I have some customers that are doing like large-scale lift and shift one customer's got over 15 000 vms. They're moving From multiple on premises data centers into azure. I ask and then when it all lands in I ask they'll do, um rationalization modernization move some of the sequel platforms into sequel managed instances Consolidate maybe even took things like cosmos db the whole thing But they've got to get out of their data center by a fixed contract time and we run into that a lot Um, in fact, I had one customer that their deadline was the first of june And we got the final vm moved by the 29th of may So that was pretty cool As you've made that that achievement was pretty pretty impressive And we do that and then we do yeah, we do other things that we've got customers who want to do um things like iot and some of these are some of these are actually becoming turning into public case studies one company, for example, um or a Diabetic remote monitoring company And they are moving they moved all their platform into azure with iot and they're doing um Like remote pickup took hundreds of thousands of signals a day landing in azure being processed into synapse analytics And delivering a really good picture of the whole almost the world in terms of how it reflects in their business to uh to the the the signaling for For for diabetic monitoring and diabetic awareness And we've got others coming on board who want to do things the same kind of thing with kidney dialysis all kinds of things So it's pretty pretty impressive So yeah, when did you just switch to a blue badge? How long ago? Oh when was I a blue badge? Uh fifth of september 2005 It's gonna say it was a while since you moved here Yeah, I've been I've been at microsoft in the u.s. Since Oh formally since the 18th of march 2018 Um, oh there was I've I've been kind of working here though um since since mid september 2017 Okay, I know when I ran the tune that the ignite a few years back, um, that was a big topic of conversations Yes Yeah, it's been an interesting few years But i'm super happy. I love my job. That's great Sounds like you're doing some cool stuff too Yeah, I'm I'm I'm super excited. There's a whole new kind of reset and rebooted my microsoft career, should we say Three three orders of magnitude greater on the scale than anything I typically work with but uh, Definitely, uh, definitely groovy Yeah, it's fun. I'm looking forward to getting this all get all those getting out again and being able to speak, you know conferences are probably Change forever in terms of how they're going to run. Yeah, but I still feel obviously the the european Collaboration summit, I know there's the one that starts tomorrow. Yeah, the gc. Yes, you know the The galactic galactic one. Um, I chose I I spoke to spence. I chose not to talk on that one Um, just because I didn't really have time to prep anything But I um, I will be speaking in in uh, Beesbaden again in in october, so that'll be fun But do you know I don't know if you guys know a guy called don kirken I know the name. I don't know. I think I've Once or twice. Yeah, he's but he spoke at several conferences. He knows guys like Miguel would he know spence very well Um, so me and me and he are doing a session a joint session on application modernization Moving a collaboration application from a non-premises environment into the club loud That'll be that should be fun. You'll have a lot of attendees at that. I think I will hope so You know them then have to deliver a good session though I don't have any worries about that Everything you put out school any of you folks going to be there Uh, no, I'm on the gcs. In fact, I owe spence a video right now. Um So once we get off this call, you know what I'm going to be doing I I did so you guys last week. I did that video I am a total putz and dunce I For some strange reason I thought I was doing an intro video And then we were going to go do sessions separately. And so I did an intro video I got it out there and whatnot and then he spent kept sending email and I'm like Uh, oh I did the wrong thing. So I sent him a note last week And he's like, yeah, I was kind of wondering what you were saying in the email here. I said, I'm so sorry Can I do something? Can I do it over? Um, and so he gave me till today. So I've got to get that to him So, yeah little putz To answer your question that neil. Yeah, I so I'm Slated to speak as well. I've got a look. I've got a wedding right around there that we're supposed to uh, participate in and So I have to look at travel schedule. But you know, it's one of those things where like I like do we can I even Plan and figure the stuff out. Do I is it going to take extra long to get all the way over to Germany and You know, what else is going on? It's just uh It's it's difficult to make those kinds of especially if you you're flying You know multi stops to to to get there if I can't fly straight there I've got to go through Amsterdam or London or somewhere and what's that experience going to be like, but as of today? Yes, I'll be there in october My rifle. Yeah, I know I'm sorry. Go ahead neil So just talking about weddings last year um, the timing was perfect because we flew into London and then across to Frankfurt and then obviously to the priest pardon and then then the weekend after the conference Um, my nephew was getting married in Katowice in poland Oh, wow. So we were so we were there for like four days And then I went back to the uk Um for family. So we were out for a good two and a half almost three weeks out in europe. So that was fun Yeah, my wife wrote uh raised the point because You know, there's a couple conferences. I will be speaking at if they're going Later on this year SharePoint Fest up in seattle and then wrackley's thing down in Branson and You know, I I have a sense that wrackley is going to do the one in Branson because he's already postponed once and He would I think he's timing for that It's uh, September. I want to say the latter part of september. Maybe Um, I can check but it's in september definitely and he's picked a date And kind of moved things around but my wife made the point. It's like Well, even if you drive down there, how's that going to work? If you know, if they have a shelter in place order for two weeks How are you going to have that conference? I'm like, that's a really good point. I don't know Um, I think it's a lot of play by ear by now right now. Anyway, yeah Yeah, same challenge. I have trying to go back to the uk to see family. They're all Um, they're they're they're shelter in place because my um, one of my family members is is considered a high risk because of a medical issue So even if I go there, I can't see him anyway I like standing way through the window. It's like, what's what's the point in that? Well, we can just meet we can just meet up on zoom, you know, our teams or something. So See, yes, I'm teams Yeah, well, yeah, I'm sure I if christian hasn't informed you he'd love to regale you with his tales of Doing battle with teams and trying to get things uh going through obs properly, but Well, it's interesting. I just did a uh, so, you know, we that with the virtual marathon this last week and I did a call I had um Joel and uh and willinger and um uh My mind just blanked here. Um, and and ryan scouting on talking about galen was uh unable to participate So the the four principal people and of course they had somebody in asia pacific and somebody over in europe That were the good with the point people that to run that event But they had uh, almost 12,000 people participating in that event and ran it all through teams And and they did things certain ways and I said so we kind of we were talking so I recorded post tweet jam Uh, because we were we did kind of uh, I don't know if you saw it neil. We did kind of a Uh, uh takeaways from both build and the virtual marathon event And I said uh guys, I'd really love to see a write-up of your experience what you did Because I know microsoft was very involved and because it was kind of the digital replacement for the share point conference and And uh, you know, what did you have to go and create from scratch? What were the the problems and um And apparently I know if anybody saw I was wondering why there were The audio was crap at the beginning of teeper's keynote Because there was a multinational Outage of teams right as the conference kicked off. Yeah friend was telling me about that but um, but anyway, it it you know I think what's exciting is that by september october for these online events that have to do that There's so much more learning That's coming from that and I know microsoft is working on a couple utilities to add to the teams experience specifically for user groups and conferences and things so they're they're they're working at Building out some of the missing pieces to make teams a more viable solution for this kind of of of meetings so Yeah, I think So I think from a from a scale perspective the the demand For just pure compute power to run teams in terms of the demand on it these days Is off the scale crazy. I've seen some numbers inside Um various, you know confidential things in microsoft obviously Um No No The the numbers of you know, magnitudes of scale of demand on cpu core resources is like crazy and um The the prioritization, you know, the the fast Execution and getting the new features that you know, they're getting to the nine window video call that kind of thing Um way way faster than we ever would have done has been pretty impressive actually the whole modern desktop works piece of the office And what's the experiences and devices stack is where it all fits It's been Super impressive in my my opinion now obviously we we've probably released things way faster than we would like to Um, I would have done under normal circumstances But it's pretty cool to see the see the response and see the sheer demand I know my I was talking to my daughter the other day And obviously I won't mention but she loves teams her school uses teams And but since they've all gone remote They've now started to use other remote working technologies and she hates it She's like, I don't like it. I want to you coming up like we have teams at school. So why can't we have teams at home? So it's just it's just it's interesting to see I mean, there are great platforms and you know, if we if we just mentioned the three big ones, right? And I'll mention many teams obviously soon and the new Is it new the meat the google one the meat google.com or something? Yeah, I saw that Have any numbers around it yet and people using that I don't I I haven't seen numbers now I just saw advertisements over the weekend. Yeah, um, you know the fact that all the big technology companies I'm surprised. I don't do amazon have an offering there as well I'm surprised they don't if they if they do. Yeah, they do they do I don't call the name but the the internal employees are required to use it. Um I'd have to look up the name, but they do have they do they do have their own I know they've got a video. Yeah Yeah, I mean, I mean obviously as a as a Microsoft employee I have my preferences as you would expect But I think the way that all of the technology companies have come together Cross the board not just the big ones, but all you know, everyone has come together in such a like a way to just It's almost like a seamless transition from Being in classrooms to being that being working from home or being in the office and working at home I mean, I I work from home 100% anyway. I'm fortunate enough to have that opportunity I go into the office when I want to but I think all everyone has literally just stepped up and gone Let's fix this. Let's make this better for everybody. And I think it's really cool not I can say Obviously, I'm a Microsoft employee So I advocate Microsoft But I think all of the all of the technology companies have done fabulous in enabling everybody to work better and smarter It's been a real maker break time for companies and those that have been able to step up have seen the results and the benefits of that But I don't I want to see numbers when this all pans out I want to see just how many companies we've lost As a result of this. Yeah Yeah, I know we were so we do a we do a walk in the morning. We we get up in the morning around 6 37 And we do before we start work We do a 5k walk around enabled And appropriately socially distanced So, you know, people walking on the same site towards us in the sidewalk We step into the street that kind of thing. We do we just say hi and walk past But we'll walk in the other day past this house and the guy and his wife And their kids and they're sat on the driveway and lawn chairs just having a drink It's early evening And so this wasn't a morning walk this was an evening walk And they're sat on it sat in the driveway and they just said hi and you know how you introduce ourselves But we live like two streets down so on and so forth And then we got chatting away and they're going I said, so let me ask what do you do? Are you still in work house work going are you still in work? I said, yeah, yeah, we're working Oh, you work for Microsoft and the guy just stood up and literally applauded us Wow, like what what he went you have no idea. He says teams have saved my business He said I would have gone under if we didn't have teams My business has been able to operate fully functional Now, I guess there's there's you know, similar stories for zoom similar stories for Google meetups, whatever it might be Hangouts all those kind of things, but it's pretty phenomenal That people are recognizing that and able to run their businesses completely now And I want to get that feedback Yeah, it was oh, yeah, so that's been filed as great feedback. It was phenomenal to hear But I also wonder whether people are now going to be You know what? I don't need to run an expensive office anymore. Yeah, I think you see a lot It actually even at Microsoft That was actually there was news that that was out on one of the business channels I think Bloomberg was talking about the massive hit to the commercial real estate market It just it just makes sense I think this is forced a lot of organizations that had prior to this idea like no We don't have that that kind of work from home if you're sick or or whatever But they they didn't have a formal policy It forced them to think about this and to realize What a lot of us that have worked from home. It's for me. It's been, you know, just over a decade You know how the the numbers don't lie The folks that work from home that are able to obviously not every role can can be done Always have to slip that caveat in there But productivity goes up, you know The harder part of that this the transition and We all know this is making sure that we make time for the balance for the work life balance It's right. It's actually harder When you work from home to divide that time I'm generally online by 7 a.m. And you know at midnight Maybe Turning off the monitor at midnight kind of thing And it's you know, you go and get other personal stuff done that needs to be done during the day But you know, you're working longer hours and you're working on more things But a lot of organizations have started to figure this out that like why do we have this brick and mortar? When most of the work that we do we're sitting and looking at screens the whole day anyway, right, right? And I'll add the twist to that as I was on a call last week Where I had a couple of developers that are from Silicon Valley And they were actually asking the question. Hey, you know what I agreed to come to this company part of the reason of the incentives that I got was Not, you know, I don't have the pay for commute anymore, right? So they used to get commute Reimbursement and stuff like that, but they're saying if I'm going to work at home One of the a couple of things was, you know, I got gym membership I got, you know, they had a gym that I could work out at They gave me free food They gave me free drink They gave me this and I don't get this now when I'm at home So how is a company going to compensate that for me and I'm sitting here I'm I'm sitting back a little bit being a little old school Working from home for so long going I've never gotten free lunches Wrong time to ask that question You know, all that stuff you're talking about so But the other thing that hit the news was kind of the flip side to that is companies saying, you know I think there's a positive side to this but companies saying we're not going to pay the additional dollars If you're not having to commute now the flip side to that is that a lot of universities have not figured that out yet Like we're just going to do online We can't be charging what we're charging these students But then of course the the other sides of that is Long said, look, I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've done many startups DC funded startups. I did that that's where I escaped that world And when I moved to Seattle years ago But the of the the spending half my day on the road is part of my commute I commuted at least three hours a day for eight years So anyway, so I like I've been I had that experience uh, is the fact that you know, I understand the value of concentrating all the startups the technology all of that brain power in the bay area and and that The rise of costs of living and everything else that's there But I've long said that in being in collaboration technology You know, you don't have to limit yourself to that geographic space You don't have to require people to move to that location You really can in this virtual environment go and hire the best people you can find wherever they are and so You know the the fact that I will Charge less as as an employee I you know I cost less Because I'm working from home and I'm okay like what's in my pocket when you look at the grand scheme of things Is as much or more than if I had to commute and add those all those additional Costs the wear and tear and cost my car and insurance and meals and all those different things But also I have the flexibility to go and work for companies that I like and I like working with Wherever they are in the world and I'm not tied down to that geography But the companies the companies themselves were you know, the people were making the point that It's an incentivized thing, right? So when you get hired, you you know, hey, we'll give you this We'll give you that we'll give you a bonus. Well, you know, whatever But the companies themselves have to start thinking of new ways new incentives Because they don't have the physical space anymore to offer employees. They don't have the the food They don't have the the the ability to you know have Transportation for them and their bikes and their scooters and whatever else you got going out there and on the west coast and east coast We don't have that in the midwest yet. So it's kind of like, you know, it takes a while to catch up But um, they're sitting there going I don't have that ability anymore. The company doesn't give me that anymore This moment in history brought to you by Darwin and corona Yeah, I I love the things that Microsoft have done. For example, you know, we're still paying our like the hourly paid employees to operate Like the various cafes and the cleaning staff around the business Um, are your transportation people are taking a huge You well, they are to a degree, but they're also Microsoft are paying them 100 of their wage. Yeah We're still paying them to this like even though we're like several months down the line We're still paying our cleaning staff our cafe staff We're still paying the transportation team that can the people that run the connects They're still they used to get paid by ride They're just being paid Microsoft are taking that hit because they you know, we've the multiple reasons It's the right thing to do And obviously you don't want to imagine if we suddenly said oh, everyone's back in the office tomorrow And all these people have gone and found jobs somewhere else Right, that's going to damage the business severely But there's other things we've done. I look at my team For example, my team just said, you know Take it a day off next week. Take one day off and don't count it against your vacation or sick time Just just take the day like, okay Oh, then then they did another thing. They just went all right Everybody in the organization gets to expense $200 towards anything you want Yeah, any people remember I'll be some gestures. I bought I bought a new guitar Okay, thank you. So A cheap one that I can just thrash the crap out of but it's still still a good good still be Little things like that and now and now my manager's talking about my manager has actually just petitioned our entire organization You know what? We should be paying our employees broadband fees as well. We should be paying our internet fees So we're probably going to get that and they already they already cover And for cell phone usage, for example, because our cell phones It's going to weird. I don't know if you know in the uk and most of europe Microsoft actually buy you a phone and pay all of the fees for personal and business use They just pick up the pick up the pick up the cost in the u.s They don't in the u.s You buy your own device, but they allow you to expense a certain amount and it's like 75 a month So it's things like that that just make the transition to Microsoft and you were talking about like fitness programs And christian was that you talking about gyms. I think it was earlier Microsoft had this program called stay fit which allows us to expense Every year $800 for fitness equipment So things like, you know, I can buy an apple. I can buy my apple watch, right? Sorry, it's charging right now, but he's here the apple watch. I can expense it um A bowling ball running shoes football equipment Everything anything ton of stuff fits into the program. And where do you live me? I want to knock over. I live in the house Oh one place to knock over a house Because the most bowling balls of the view, you'll be good. It's fit for his hand, Sean And Sean, I won't talk there's things in the house, but maybe you don't want to come and knock over this house, but I'm not But think you know things like that and then what they did was when everyone started working from home They went, okay, so now we're going to extend this and say to not just fitness equipment, but also Ergonomic equipment. So if you want to buy a raised lower desk standing desk, you want to buy a new chair You want to buy monitors? You want to buy anything that may make your working life at home easier That's now all included in that same $800 suite. So they they've just gone they it's It's been eye-opening You know, I'm not going to say Microsoft's the perfect employer But they they are certainly making ground and making great strides to take care of the people Make sure you appreciate what you got Yep, look at that time Yeah, I'm just looking to see if there are any like last questions. I don't see there's nothing that's Oh, yeah office 365 questions That's a good discussion. I just see that I I don't see anything new that's come in Yeah, actually on the uh 365 page. I actually uh what worked backwards I think we addressed some of the most recent it it on stuff that we touched on last week. So I'll comment on a few of them when we get off too. Yep But uh Well, no, we're we're over time, but you know appreciate Neil. Thanks for joining this the session Absolutely How it might as well if you do this periodically, let me know I know I know you do but then we do it every monday I'm really free at this exact time. So I'll be happy to join again Yeah, I think I sent you it's the same link. It's the same team. So just added on repeat We're at 8 a.m. And 6 p.m. Every monday pacific time So, uh, we we do a mia and apac times. Yeah tonight for your apac buds Yeah, well 6 p.m. 6 p.m. I can't make it today because I have my end of year review And that's kind of important But starting next week I'll join as often as I can If you don't show up to this end of year review, it might show up in next year's review or be relevant in this year's review So, yeah, there is the next year. Yeah Thanks guys. Thanks a lot. Take care. Bye me. Thank you later. Bye. Bye and I've gathered So much sharing You gotta mute that other stream there. Yeah, Sean your homework from the from my email after this morning Homework You didn't are are you once again blocking my emails? I've never been blocking your emails. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, we all believe that, Sean We'll see Mike just joined Mike are you there? Mike Nelson. Yeah. Oh, wow Did he Come through did he Oh, no, I Didn't see it. So Neil is here Yep. Yes Excellent. Hey Neil Welcome back I saw Mike up here. Was that Hang on see if he messaged me elsewhere Yeah, yeah So the the homework question Sean was uh in the chat Uh at the end of our last session this morning was to bring a question with you. Oh, okay Uh, well, I answered a bunch in the actual group today and reference things and hopefully some of those folks have decided to join us Answering questions outside of these two hours that don't count You get no points It's all about the points. Yeah. Yeah. Was there anything that we that you answered that we had not discussed? Um I would have to go look at the book of faces to know that Yes The book of faces Yes Is that anything like a bit of common knowledge? No, it's uh There's nothing knowledge. There's nothing that of the the book of faces that any lasting value at all really A worldly disputes are settled gracefully I've just been fighting on the book of faces and we just had a recent local protest Given the whole current situation. Is that going to too much detail? and I was very Like can the protesters just not smash the windows of all the local Businesses and stuff can they just just You know be peaceful and be nice can It's it's Getting pretty crazy everywhere. I think Yep, I agree Yeah Agreed Well, uh, so there is a question. Uh, somebody asked so Corey asked out in the Microsoft teams community group on facebook Asking about a kind of paraphrase here is the best way to save an email in a channel Is it to forward to the channel's email address? and So my the short answer is like look the I don't know how you're defining the best way to save an email Best way to say that it would be to not delete it Don't send it in the first place make it part of the discussion But if you want to make it part of the discussion, but yes, I mean you can do that if you want to open that up Yeah, you can email if it's been is the uh, you know teams owner has enabled the ability to email um to a channel Um that capability then yeah, you can send it in there have a you know conversation around it It then becomes part of You know the context the collaborative activity for the project or team That's true. You've got to step out of the Uh context of the flow of teams though to read it um Better to gather your thoughts and Place them within the the actual dialogue. I'm thinking but Well, this kind of goes to a broader topic and uh, you know, we've been talking for a few years and we kind of have this with the Bing search the expanded search where if you're logged in and you do a search it'll actually search through Whatever you're logged into and have permissions to so you'll get a federated search result of public, you know websites as well as You know share point sites of your desktop materials of your linkedin Connections kind of all those different things, right? Yeah And it kind of goes back to I mean we've had flavors of that through SharePoint search With the fast acquisition so going back to what was that 2006 2007 We've had some variations over the years. Was it 2008? Yeah, it was April the 12th 2008. Okay. Believe me. Believe me believe me Christian, I I know that acquisition inside and out I was in nms. So that was still while I was on the team when that happened. Yeah Um, so it was I remember sitting in a couple meetings and I was I was on the SharePoint site of things And so starting to have those conversations like excellent and then it was a hurry up in wait. We saw no integrations for Yeah, yeah Well was SharePoint 2010 before integrated, right? Right Well, yeah, yeah integration of a form, I guess Yeah, yeah 2013 we got the the full baby Well, the point I was going to ask though that federated search result I mean the people have asked this question like You know, where do I go? I want to go and do a search result and I want and remember we saw back with the uh, the the profile information's the SharePoint search where we were starting to get the The like the silver light organizational chart that was during that era in the federated search result to get people results as well as topics and hashtags and content from multiple locations and email and and the the When the yammer acquisition happened and there was talk about well, why can't I get all of that? Access and of course it wasn't possible to get a truly federated view across all of those different workloads So how many places let me and maybe The pays off when you let the crawler Right well, I was going to ask like how many search experiences are there now within microsoft 365? Well, we're trying to consolidate down to one. Yeah, that's like the micro concepts of microsoft search But it's not yeah, which is by Nowhere near a truly holistic view of search across all of the possible data repositories that we have either across office 365 I mean yammer, I guess is included in that. Yep. It really isn't today But it but we're we're moving in that direction trying to move in that direction. It's cool It's like trying to cram too much stuff in one packing. You just Yeah And christian alluded to it earlier and it's a very valid comment, right? No, we we we acquired fast We had to Bring fast into the fold Then we acquired yammer. We had to bring them into the fold. There's You know, it's it's it's somewhat easy to build a search engine on technology that you've owned for many years, but when you then try and Shew horn that into technology that you is new It takes time and and I won't lie You know as much as I'm a microsoft guy I think he's taking too long. I won't lie. It is we need to have a single instance where I can find all of my stuff Yep, yeah I really need that What's different from back with the fast acquisition is we we have the concept of the graph api We had the microsoft, you know graph We and we're starting now to capture all that information. I mean it was incredibly hard I mean that that's the the other part of the reason I ask is that you know, so my path into Collaboration technology, I mean I was doing work for eds and then pacific bell was in the data warehousing world Big part of my job. I owned all the front end applications to all the marketing systems so capturing all this information and our Project management tools and all of our, you know analytical tools and merging in gis data and like do all this for the phone company massive amounts of data um In fact, the project that I worked on for almost 18 months. I kind of joke now is that the data set was Smaller than my current music drive Which is insane to think about That's a statement. I know All my music drives Spotify. So what can I say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but uh But it's a uh, yeah, then you have that limited catalog nail I mean, I this is so much of my stuff that's not on any of the any of the systems, but No, it's it, you know, so but with so much of the effort around it So I I get that that we need to have that Uh, we need to have the graph to be able to tie together All of those pieces all of those those the surfaces all the workloads Um, the next problem is then how do you surface all those pieces? Yeah, yeah All graph is the master abstract Whoa, we got some wicked echo Think is how I'll just arrive. We got echo So yeah, the graph graphs are interesting and the whole the whole concept of a graph with respect to when you think of that The technical Implementation of a graph Behind the scenes. I love it. I don't know if you dug if you guys I'm assuming you guys have dug in because you're all smart people But it's really it's really unique in terms of how it works And I think the more people get to know it the more people get to understand it the more people will make more use of The the the api calls, right? We mentioned this earlier today We talked about, you know calls to the graph. What can the graph do? What can the graph deliver and there's multiple products that have a graph, you know Microsoft have a graph facebook have a graph Everything everyone these days has a graph and I think it's It's it's so Different, you know growing up with Microsoft technology for the last 20 years It's only in the last three or four that we've really begun to really Understand what the graph can can do for us. Yep. Yeah, and how we can build Not only applications, but but discover information across that platform And I I love it personally. I think it's fabulous graph is becoming synonymous with uh gang of fours uh facade pattern everybody's got a graph and you know you put it out there and it uh facilitates Access to all the reaches and people with the experience in the various silos industries Uh wire up their technologies To that graph and we get to it Yeah, and I just uh posted a link in there. I mean something else that I've uh, you know Want to go dig into more but I had inspire last July Uh and for those that aren't familiar with Microsoft inspire, which is the it's Microsoft's sales and marketing focused conference Um, I spent a bunch of booth time. It's actually the best event I find for going and spending time in the Microsoft product team booths um And doing deep dive so learning about what's happening and I'm a marketing guy and so the marketing systems And what's happening around the open data initiative is a partnership with uh with sap and adobe and I've talked to people from both Those teams at both of those other organizations And honestly, I like um, and I'd love, you know, maybe neal I don't know how much you know about what's going on inside Microsoft But I get the sense that both of those other companies are further ahead than Microsoft in taking advantage of this initiative Um I'm sure it's just that Microsoft the stuff that's going on. It's just not yet visible externally Um, but the idea of being able to go like adobe. I've had some in-depth conversations In-depth conversations of You know what what they're doing and and how they envision Uh, this program and leveraging data from the other two companies is just some really cool stuff. It's very exciting Yeah, from a Microsoft standpoint, I mean, obviously there's things I can't say things I can't say and there's things I don't even know so I'm not going to allude to those because I don't know what they are. But you know, we we are very very very very embraced with Changes in the marketplace changing what's going on trying to adapt and not only be In a competitive space, but also be in a collaborative space I we don't consider SAP a competitor We consider SAP a partner right and we You know, I look at the projects I'm working on right now and I have a number of projects which are SAP based. I have a customer right now that has over 300 applications based on SAP And they're like, all right, but we don't want to run this in our data center anymore because we don't want to run a data center anymore Can we just move this to Azure? Like okay, so we we work with SAP We work with engineers. We have I have engineers in my team that X SAP engineers that are helping me migrate that so It's not about pure competitiveness. It's about collaboration and partnership And that's how I see most of these things happening. You know, we work together even with AWS and Google and you know, we we we don't We don't necessarily see this as a it's you or it's a you or us situation and it's a You know I have customers today that like, you know, we're gonna run we're gonna run xyz services in azure. Okay, fine. Cool What's your dr strategy? Okay, well our disaster recovery strategy is we're gonna run it in azure in a aws Okay, cool. How do we help you make that work? So I think more and more the clouds the different public clouds even when we move into federal and government space We're starting to get to this synergy where It's not a pure compete It's a how do we collaborate and how do we make Our customers successful across a multi cloud strategy and I think multi cloud strategy is a Huge topic when we talked earlier today about conferences and things I think multi cloud strategy is something that's going to be a really really hot topic over the next two to three years I think you're right because you know systems fail Unexpected actions happen and you know like look at the mic. Okay Microsoft last year we had a major failure in one of our data sensors that took out azure ad That was catastrophic for services across the globe so If if customers could fail back to aws or fail back to gpc Then they were carried on working Alternatively, maybe aws are failure and they can fail back to azure or gpc or google have a fail Yeah, they fail back to azure or aws I think we need to operate more synergistically Yes, of course being a microsoft employee Worth looking in the azure space the more business I can bring into azure the better it is for me. I'm not a salesman I'm not gauged on my sales I'm gauged purely on My effort do my job And I I love the azure platform. I really do but I think Across the board When we think about collaboration and cloud collaboration is way more than just i'm going to operate in the microsoft cloud I'm going to operate in the adbs cloud. It's it has to be a Synergistic view of all of it. What works right for my company. Yeah That's what we have to drive You know, this is a topic that uh in the regional directors the rd list Is discussed, you know frequently and different different things around this but specifically around this and honestly when teams launched um So what three and a half years ago? um You know some of the very first feedback was some of the the your questions around The multi-tenant just just from the team's perspective, but I know what you're talking about is broader than that um But the you know, the reality is that 10 years ago The a large portion of companies like they were like a single oem Stack like we're a microsoft shop And so we would do everything like like those companies don't exist anymore barely any of them They they all have their they've got systems. They have you know key workloads In you know, different divisions might be using those different clouds those different services And so uh, it's it's just it's foolish to to Not answer some of those fundamental questions. And I think this You know the easier that microsoft can make it to Go back and forth and and yeah, there's going to be uh microsoft Sales people especially that are going to be like why would we want to make it easier for people to move off of our platform Yeah, and leverage others and then then you get into the you know, well, they're you know You know price shopping your price comparisons. Well, they're a little bit, you know Cheaper on this now and jumping back and forth. It's like I I always wondered about like t-mobile Offering phone service like I won't buy you out of your contracts Like but not force you to sign another contract. You're like great pay me off I'll stay with you for two months and then I'll jump back over and have all my bills paid, you know, I get I was looking at saying anybody go do that Phone data portability you're you know, that's another great example But that that's exactly it's Sean. That's that's a I'll let you finish the thought like that's exactly the portability I own my data. I'll take it wherever I want to take it Uh and for my own reasons like I I'm I'm not uh, you know Burdened, you know under your your service and especially if it's a shoddy service You know, my key responsibility is keeping my business up and running and access to my data And wherever that takes me and the the burden is then on microsoft and the other oems to provide the best services Yep Portability it's about it Portability. Yeah, I can give a class I can give a classic example um So back in 20 when was the last ignite in a lando not last year year before 2018 was when I was there So we did we we we held a workshop on the day before Ignite it was the hybrid SharePoint 2019 SharePoint Office 365 one drive hybrid session You know the session we've been delivering for a long time was me The usual subjects suspect sorry me spence james and himmelstein Troy harbour Sorry, sorry, don't try harbour try star And the usual people right we were delivering that session And and I was trying to find a way bill bear right. I was trying to find a way to deploy over 600 virtual machines into asia All with unique dns address spaces all with all so that the people in the room could Access the environments and and do the workshops and actually not just listen and sit there and get get destroyed by a powerpoint all day long but actually do stuff sure and What turned out was the most appropriate way to do it was yeah, I'm running azure I'm running a power shell scripts, and I managed to deploy 600 vms in about 12 minutes into azure It's using azure pass really easy Right once I got it all refined it took me like three weeks to get it worked out and then it was like Try again try again try again. Everything works out great. And then I'm like, okay, but now I need to work out The the the best way to configure the dns for these solutions Because each student needed a unique dns, right? They needed they had a unique on prem ad They needed to replicate And synchronize that ad with office 365. How do I do that? The best way and what worked out for me was I won't lie I just abandoned azure dns completely because amazon dns Route 53 if you're familiar with that service just worked out completely perfectly. So we ended up delivering a office 365 sharepoint 2019 hybrid solution It was all backed by amazon dns But I think that's that's a A valuable message going forward that says listen, we don't have to be separate. We can work together Right, we can collaborate and we can make this happen sure and I love amazon route 53 dns services that their power shell functionality and capability Is out of this world amazing now don't be wrong Azure is also really good But it didn't work for me because of what I was trying to achieve it didn't work for me. So I think It's not just a case of saying This cloud service works and therefore we're going to go down this cloud service and nothing else I mean it's global dns, right? I mean global dns Works everywhere. Yeah, once you once you once you've registered those Those host names it's all fine. And I think this is for me Personally, this is a key thing. There is Ultimately, you have to think of Despite the fact we have multiple public cloud services Microsoft amazon google And rack space have a cloud service, right? There's multiple cloud services all all across the place, right? And I apologize for the folks that I didn't mention that. I know there's many many others Ultimately, it's one public cloud and you You should be able to pick and choose the services you want to use from each cloud that suits your needs And they should be Digistic and work together And I think two years ago Two years ago. I I for one prove that that worked. I was using a combination of amazon and azure And making it all work together and we had a we had a deliver a fabulous workshop. It was great So I want to make sure that we I my perspective is I guess say I want to make sure I don't really have a say in it I want I want I I hope That as companies despite the fact that we're obviously competitors just the fact that we're competing for the same business We should also continue to be compatible and continue to Work together to make sure that everything We can we can You know, okay. I want my I want my compute in azure, but I want my dns in aws, but I want my Whatever it might be in google It should be it should just work That's the only way to do it. I think customer. I think providing Yeah, providing that to our customers gives us our customers the best opportunity for success Yeah, you gotta do that's that's how I feel about it. I agree with you entirely Absolutely Yeah, if you do, you know, if your vanilla is better than mine By all means Let's eat your vanilla And then But I've got a pretty good chocolate Come on to my place to uh, thank chocolate You can make this work. We'll have some chocolate and some vanilla like just These can be donuts or ice cream or anything you like Yeah, because friday is national donut day gentlemen. That's right. It is. Yes, it is So you have these dunkin donuts with a starbucks coffee makes perfect sense Starbucks coffee. I'm just gonna be a dunkin. Don't I think I'm gonna I may have to go and do a live stream from krispy kreme Oh That's you better watch out At least here in Cincinnati if you walk into a krispy kreme, it's pretty much cold and off Yeah, krispy kreme, if you're going to do that, you need to measure your waistline right now Then measure it on friday night There's the krispy kreme challenge You're familiar with that? No Oh What is that? That is a race that has run You You're gonna love this in fact, it's about a two mile run. I believe You run to a krispy kreme You eat a dozen donuts And you that's an easy part. Yeah, and you run back I couldn't eat a dozen donuts if I tried. Yeah, that would be a tough back half Yeah krispy kreme donuts. I'm not saying I won't consider doing that. Can you eat them on the run back? I suppose if you can eat and run. Yeah, probably but uh If you can't eat a dozen donuts down, look it up. I mean, this is a real thing, guys No, I was thinking about that, you know, back when I used to run the marathons and they have the power gel stuff I'm thinking that the a krispy kreme a couple donuts can't cannot be As much of a caloric intake of those little sugar packets that they hit you with it has like sugary caffeine It's like eating frosting that's caffeinated And it's got in the packet For an energy burst. Hey when you're you're running, you know my my Target was always a have a half marathon guy. I did the one full marathon Got it framed on the wall. I don't have any plans of doing another full marathon. I'm a half marathon guy But yeah, those those packets are are fantastic. It's about the last five miles Is when I run into I have that need For some sugar caffeine Understand that I'm a tough. I'm a tough mudder guy So it's like it's like 18 k I've seen you in a tough mudder I've seen some pictures with you Neil Yeah, look a pretty dirty Yeah, very very dirty So I'm but even though even on those they like there's like every five k there is a Um like a refreshment stand where you get they give you water And energy drinks and you can eat like peanut bars like full of calories and stuff Just to keep you going And it's interesting. I love I love my tough mudders So I'm setting up a team in Dallas this year to do this one in september You've got my son wants to do one with me this fall. There's one going on here. I think Early fall, but I've never done one Well, you should do it because the thing is with the tough mudder one of the things that they tell you I know we're We're like the furthest possible tangent. We could be away from office. We see it's five and collaboration Well, no collaboration. No collaboration, right? So the one thing with the the tough mudder does is You start they have they have like a big chant. It's all it's like it's not a marathon. It's a sprint It's not about who finished quickest. It's about getting everybody over the line So if you have to walk it you just walk it that doesn't matter Nobody cares nobody judges. You just walk. It's it's fine Yeah, it's what is it 12 12 and a half miles And I think the fastest dive done it is in it is about three and a half hours So if you consider that that's pretty slow if you were just running But at the same time the obstacles And then there's obviously weights at the obstacles on some of them where you have to kind of wait Okay, there's a big line. I've got to wait like 20 minutes for someone else to get through this And then there's scenarios where you fall off stuff And I've done that I fell off it. I fell from the top of a 15 foot wall Rashes to my back. Oh man That that that was not fun. I was like a mile from the finish but I got up and I finished So it's it's It's more of a team effort. It's more of a I would say don't do it with just your son. You really need a team of two or four Or four four or six would be ideal And if you get there and it's just the two of you go find other people and try and join their team You're squad because it's a team thing. It's a squad. There are obstacles. You simply can't climb by yourself Even with one of the person A 15 foot high wall I don't care how tall the other person is they can't boost you over that wall Right You need like to build a pyramid of people that you then climb up and get over that wall And then the next team comes in and they yeah. Yeah, she has well she does more mud runs My first my first My first Tough mudder was with you know max stokes Like I think he lost his mvp, but he's he was an mvp So max stokes ben lee who was at microsoft Oh The Yeah I know him was fine didn't want a couple years back Himmelstand's done a few I think himmelstand's going to do the one with me in in Dallas this year. That's good. Um, mary mackey Yeah, oh Yeah, mary mackey. So so she was also in my team um I'm trying to hear how it was a bunch. We did basically a share point tough mudder There was a bunch who was like six to seven of us. It was absolutely fabulous. That's impressive And that was the first one I did and I've done several other since my karate crew and a bunch of others with other people And it's just such fun But there's the one that I love it. The thing I love about it is There's no judgment if you decide, you know what I really can't do that You you just walk past it and Move on go to the next one like you've still done that you've still Done the 18k you just didn't do it through the mud and through the sludge and through the variety of obstacles So no if anyone wants to do it late september this year with me in dallas if you want to get down here feel free I'll I'll bring you my team How looks like he's up for it Oh, yeah Okay, sorry, we we digress we digress. Yeah, I was just I was looking through and Sean I see your responses on a couple of these I like this. Well, maybe you could talk through the the one you answered where uh kepso was talking about Uh, his ceo's on the e3 plan We're running hybrid 365 hybrid solution His mailbox is bigger than 50 gigabytes. So we have an archive policy of two years He wants all of his older emails to a viable offline anytime And when he searches for an old email his outlook must not freeze Boy that boy, that's just uh That's a pretty demanding situation. Yeah He does not want to use outlook web access to access his email Yeah, we talked through I I mean I what I wrote there is I'll stand by that. It's you know, you set it up with an ost and you uh Build the cache on the client for the active mailbox. He's going to need a probably an offline pst for the archive um Make sure you back that up some other way as well And he would want to look, you know, you've got that um Is it still uh as much data as you can cram into the archive nil for exchange I believe so, but I'm not really a male person. So I I don't know Okay Well, I couldn't give you an authoritative answer on that Gotcha. Well for his use case that the ceo is gonna want to Um instant access to it. So that pretty much necessitates a local solution Um, so the pst Would make sense there And it's really easy to back up outlook close make a copy. You're done. Yeah, exactly how So but um, yeah, that's uh That's a precarious solution The ceo, I I think I mentioned in there that the ceo might want to look at their data retention policies and Things like that because anybody who keeps archived email forever Obviously hasn't been sued before And has not had a legal hold run on their organization Usually the legal department's getting involved and that's the first sign that mail needs to go out the door on an interval I just posted a link there about the unlimited archiving Okay so Yeah I figured that was still in place But yeah, that's the that's the online solution. He was doesn't want to do that It's kind of like the the buffet, you know eat all you want with the uh, the understanding that most people will eat a reasonable amount and When when microsoft figures out that people are eating too much, then they're going to change that policy Exactly. Yeah the dildo plan Yeah I'll post that link in as well. Everybody's watching Um, no other questions anybody that's watching on the watch party if you have any questions You'd like us to address feel free to type them in there in the comments and And we'll uh, we'll try and tackle those um So going to see if there's any other questions That came through and today or over the weekend Don't see anything else Yeah, a lot of times people will post a question and um And it requires follow-ups to be able to even begin to answer To to try to understand a little bit more. Yeah, 20 questions right Hey neil I'm gonna throw this at you and you can throw it right back at me um microsoft office pro plus going to microsoft 365 apps the name change Why on god's word did they do that? Not that shone has an opinion You know Um pain by the whole shirp one story Yeah, I don't I I'm gonna have to answer. I don't know Um, okay. We don't have an answer for that one. I know we we we moved most of the office applications into that kind of central app that experience um Trying to drive most of it web based versus Like download client based But I don't have a specific answer as to why the name changed or why the The scenario changed. I really really don't know um All I can think of somebody office space we could we can Yeah, we can sync offline if you want and we'll try and work it out and then maybe we can present that back to the to the audience but pure Understanding perspective. I really don't know It happened after I moved out of the Devices experience group. They're all the office group So I didn't get any of kind of insights into that got you um And I'm saying this purely from a perspective as I'm saying I don't know because I genuinely don't know this isn't me being Obtuse because I got you. I know because microsoft tells me I can't I'm just being purely. I don't I genuinely don't know No, it's totally fair And it's not really nice of me to throw it at you, but I figured I'd try and Ping you As you are on the inside I I I'll I'll answer anything I can Yeah And I'll I'll try and answer anything I can but you know, there's obviously limitations But that one I genuinely don't know Sure I had a nice conversation with uh scott stewart earlier last week um Yeah Oh, yeah, I can My favorite south African absolutely Yeah, he was uh giving me the lowdown on the um page diagnostics tool And the work that he's doing for the uh portal health Trying to roll all that up so It sounds like there's some good stuff there. I I love scott scott and edin and edini's wife They were over at our house last year. Let's yeah, we had a real fun real good blast They think that they flew down to Dallas, but they know scott scott is um the team he's in very much focused on customer Experiences and customer health and performance and capability Yeah, so he is f he is absolutely the right guy to talk to in that space the tool that he PMed um That whole diagnostics platform piece that he did is pretty phenomenal actually Yeah, um, it's a shame. I think and and if i'm wrong here, please correct me But I don't think they've released an edge version of it yet though. They have exists for chrome Yeah, it's a chrome extension Which is the irony so wow, but given the the new edge platform is an edge There's a chrome chromium browser. Yes. Chromium. Somebody has wrapped it up an edge The one has tried that. I think we'll get that does work It does I think I think john chromium. Yeah, I most Certainly the new edge. Yeah Yeah, the new edge is pretty cool. Um It's a bit of a memory hog from being honest, but it's It it It's a pretty cool browser Rapper But that's no so no Some cool cool I've been preaching his um His sermon doing What I can to get the word out For quite some time. Yeah, it's best tool to try and troubleshoot any performance issues and Yeah, it should it should it should absolutely at least at least be your first thing you try And if you if if you can't diagnose it with that Then go open the support case Have we talked about that before Sean and one of these sessions? I can't remember. I know we we've talked about it But a bit but yeah, you know, it's it's Being the tool was nice to have a while back a few a few years back Uh, Scott and I co-presented at, uh SPC And that was the year that he revealed the tool at the session that we Co-presented And unfortunately the demo bombed. So it was an authentic demo, of course But um sacrifice the demo guts No, he didn't we didn't like the candle and sacrifice the chicken, but um Anyway the at that point it was only working with classic pages And of course the tool now works with publishing pages classic pages um And scott's tune now is he's trying to get everybody onto cd ends To drive performance Most people are not taking advantage of cds and they're tenant and it's easy enough with one line of power shell Um, he said he's going to write a blog. He's going to write an article on microsoft I said tell me about i'll do it myself. I'll post it blog post What are you going to say to you? I have a challenge with cd. I have a challenge with cd ends because cd ends My challenge with cd ends are my my issue here and this is purely a personal thing is Hosting things on cd ends that are not Security restricted you can only really host things that are Like available to everybody. Yeah right so I get it I understand it Imagine this scenario imagine. Okay. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go wild now imagine this Okay, let's fake. Let's say we had a situation Where we could have a fully replicated cosmo db based sharepoint platform global right running with Consistency levels at full maturity So cosmo db. I don't know if get you guys are familiar with cosmo db, but Replicating within seconds across the globe Across multiple instances angel acquires a thing Full security model the same as sharepoint does today. Okay and Not being cdm based but actually having replication global sharepoint replicated As we all know we've never had that I know metallogix had a product that would do something Behind and the scenes and would do Something along those lines and it worked exceptionally well for the people Yeah, right and and for that market it works well It is questionable unsupportability. That's not not not any way a demeanor on Our quest now, right? It's not metallogist request on it But that product works well in the market that it works What I'm saying is imagine if we could do away with cdns And have a more replicated database infrastructure That had all of the database security behind it instead of needing to use like niche solutions Now that that means that that's a huge change to the sharepoint product And it's a huge change to the sharepoint products on premises Even online, which is where we would be looking to implement this And I'm not saying I'm not alluding to this as being somewhere they should go or may be going or even anything I've even heard of But for me that would be more of a More of an appropriate solution Database replication is is is not easy in a SharePoint. It really isn't we all know We're all SharePoint people we understand the level of like transactional work that's going on inside SharePoint Not just from a user interaction But timer jobs and all kinds of other stuff that's going on. Oh, yeah, so it's it's not easy It's a living thing. I feel Right, I feel there's a lot that could be done assuming SharePoint Maintain its on-premises basis or even cloud basis and I ask even There's a ton of stuff that could be done to make it a much more I'm going to say a comfortable solution to work with but it's a huge investment on the SharePoint team It really would be yeah, I know and and their driver is obviously SharePoint online. So I just I would love if I would almost imagine imagine. Okay, so let me Let me say it this way. Imagine this scenario Cloud didn't exist There is no IaaS. There is no Azure AWS It's just someone else's server anyway. Just doesn't exist right so Here's me I'm the I'm the us and I want to replicate my solution around the globe imagine building a solution for that for a moment mm-hmm The technical complexity But then also think about the technology we have today In terms of being able to do that Right. I think we have it. I genuinely think we have it I do too I just I just think we don't have the We don't have The investment from the leadership to make it happen And that's not a bad thing like where I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all I'm saying that you know, that's where they are and that's we want to go SharePoint online We want to go this any other because SharePoint online has that functionality I just I'm a geek at heart. I'm a true geek at heart So I would love to be able to play with that and just see how we can make that work Yeah, I agree Yeah, I think that you're right. I think could it be done? Yeah Does that and in somebody high up would likely say, yeah, well that Help us sell net new seats You know licensing no You know to go back and you know sometimes and to finesse and create a Better product in some areas where that just it's not going to get the return for for doing that There are some solid third-party solutions that that help them do it and that's Sometimes good Let's just drop the distributed cash and get a reddest cash Oh Please yes, please In the last yeah, I mean I've been so As a migration engineer for office in five, I've been working with Linux and ready A whole bunch of other darker based open source platforms. Oh, yeah last 12 months before I moved to this role It was like it opened my eyes to a ton of stuff that could be done You know Right We just cashed mongo db engine x web servers the whole gamma of Like I'm like I'm right there with Maybe share point should have been this five years ago Yeah, I Yeah, trevor steward and ira pad talks about that But I think the trevor at one point was actually petitioning bill bill bear uh to swap the distributed cash out get it off of um The current platform which is shaky as hell and get over on the reddest He's this thing would have been To not have had it all Honestly, yeah point. I mean we we didn't need it before share point 2016 then Okay, you hit a different server you have to be authenticated. Okay. Okay. That's then that's fine, right A little irritating don't be wrong But at the same time Just fix your load balancer you'd be okay. Yeah, I agree Do we go too far down the rabbit hole? Uh, well, yeah, there's We probably probably did but then again, uh, you know, we would not any any other questions Posted it's been kind of a quiet afternoon One thing I was there there was so I'm just looking to see if there any We've got a handful of people still watching on the one live stream on the second location I don't see any questions either Um, there's a couple interesting questions that are out there um One it's a bit lighter weight than what we've been discussing here, but Uh back into it over on the teams community um Somebody explain how to best view the written chat whilst I'm presenting in the teams meeting uh, then, uh The person asks, uh If it helps I'm teaching and using a smallish laptop so no second screen available I've tried splitting the screen and having teams in the app on one side And then the browser on the other but it feels very cluttered. Is this the best option? And and obviously we have the To respond to that let everybody if you've got any other thoughts on this you want Again clarifying question because you just go down to the bottom Uh float over the controls click on the chat and it should just pop open on the right side So there's yeah having two separate instances open. I don't understand what the You know how this this is harder If you didn't realize it you can open the chat within your meeting on the on the right side um And and what is kind of forthcoming and I don't know the time frame for it But it is to be able to pop out the chat So you could then size that based on your need as well um So and you could if with that popped out in two windows you could actually use the The windows and arrow key To snap them on to your window and then drag and drop the center bar And give your if you suddenly see a huge influx and Responses via text you can widen that just with one control You're not having to manage two different windows But like I said that you mean that that that features forthcoming I'm sure we can ask neil and he won't know either, but it's it's one of those that's Supposed to be here. I know they say summer, you know coming coming In the mail it's in 2020 Yeah, um Yeah, that's it. I think there's a few other questions that we'll have to get you a bit more lengthy Um always a bunch of questions around uh power shell That makes great video discussions What power shell questions are there? Um, I just see some of the responses here. Um, it's pretty far down the page on the team's community Okay, but yeah a lot of my time makes out so by the way is like Three or four minutes behind everything else Yep And uh, see I don't know anything else how anything else That you've seen that you want to discuss in our last our last couple minutes um One just just a little note from the earlier meeting today. I did Poke into the chat the setup instructions for how to make an outlook dot com I can't have a Custom domain name. So uh, oh Yeah, maybe you can explain that again just to expand on that a bit Well, I'll expand on it but I really didn't The thing that is is there is there is a way to go about doing that. There is a very nice article on it and Oh heaven sakes, let me see if I can find out um There were some issues with that some folks have had some problems, but That's where this this little article came up from there was a couple of conflicting Um Articles on the subject and let's see here Actually, there's a better way of going about that There it is We can share that again since we've got these as two separate meetings Okay Let me uh It's in the notes that's at the end of this here And Voila there you got it There it is Sadly, it's the big old long ugly microsoft link, but that's it It works Yeah, so that was the question about uh um Create an email Or you know, what was the what was the question again that your answers It was a custom domain with an outlook outlook dot com account Map and a custom domain on top of it Account Yeah, that's personalized email address if you will Yeah, so you don't have to go to default Stuff Well gentlemen, we are we are at the hour so want to uh Again, thank you guys for for participating and thanks for folks that watched in of course, um If you're wondering what do we do with these recordings? So over the next day day and a half I should Compile both the morning and evening recordings Posted out to youtube I also then over at buckleyplanet.com and you can see it with a distinctive Artwork there for the office hours, but I go through and provide a blog post that has a time stamp List of all the topics that we cover in both Sessions, so that's a fantastic job at it So you can jump to the specific topic the the issue that we're covering and share that out there, so You know feel free to Continue posting questions here. We do monitor. We go back and look at Any new questions that are asked and we try to handle those You know and this is our this is our 11th week gentlemen of doing this So, uh, we'll come back to week 12 and now we're all teams We're on teams. We're live streaming so Stop with a christian and pay to add some other services and I uh and actually I followed that that that link i'm trying to Expedite getting added to the linkedin live So hopefully Hopefully we will in short order be able to simulcast livestream to twitter facebook youtube and linkedin. That's the goal sweet We'll be everywhere All right guys have a good evening and uh Yeah, we'll we'll talk to you uh next week same bat time same bat channels We'll be back every monday at eight a.m. And six p.m. Pacific Huh enjoy the rest of the week gentlemen. Oh, yeah, there's some work that has to happen in between. Yeah Life thanks guys Take care neil Thanks a lot. Thanks for neil Talk to you later Bye