 Well, yes, I think that I don't think it's sort of a Ethereal exactly at least it depends what you mean by ethereal, but I think it's a field I think these things work through what I call morphic fields. Yes, and morphic fields are fields and In science we have quite a number of fields and as the magnetic field around the magnet It's you can't see the magnetic field. It's in the magnet and it's around it the gravitational field around the earth It's an invisible organizing structure that keeps the moon in its orbit and keeps us down on the ground Then there's the electromagnetic field of your cell phone which is active inside the cell phone but extends invisibly beyond it and Now all of these are fields and the point fields were first introduced into science in the 1840s they're not part of the original Newtonian mechanistic picture and and Most of our modern technologies are field-based technologies I mean right now we're talking on zoom the whole of this works on electromagnetic fields and transmissions and so on So I think morphogenetic fields probably the form-shaping fields and morphic fields Which is the generic term to cover form-shaping fields and behavioral fields and social fields I Think these are actual organizing fields invisible organizing structures their patterns or regions of activity in space and time And so it may sound the fact they're invisible and they organize things invisibly Some people would say oh, wow, this must be pseudo science is woo woo and so on but actually That's the basis of the whole of modern science the whole of modern science is explaining the visible in terms of the invisible and Once you get into quantum matter fields and the quantum zero point energy fields and the Higgs boson field We're dealing with a whole range of fields which under my reality. They're invisible They give structure and order and form to things morphic fields is another kind of field We've already got several kinds within science, but I don't think it's yet an exhaustive list Yeah, you give these though those are very important examples in the not only earth's Magnetic field the gravitational poles the all the technology in the last 150 years is now functioning off of these Invisible fields to the human eye. This is very important But also even furthermore when you look at even just something as simple as a tree The tree is not just the static tree There's a massive field around the tree that is constantly doing the the O2 and co2 Exchange that is it's just happening all over but from the leaf sections all the time And if you're next to it, you're inhaling that and exhaling seriously like that you're there's it So that's also a big funny thing with the whole identity thing if you identify yourself as just your ego Or if you identify yourself as also that tree that's a little bit of a separate thing But you you give also this really important point about social groups. I think is very important like you just listed There's just there's something else happening So we're going to coexist these concepts of genetics epigenetics and the way science is understanding the Collective inheritances of of memory, but we're also going to add to that picture We're going to add to that something else that is that that's occurring across Amorphic field for humans and there's got to be ways to do this better I mean we'll give this brief example in sports and then I'll make the the question here, but just it It's so true that in social groups There's almost some sort of a Amorphic field that happens if you've ever been around Especially in like northern california. What happens is you have an extremely Homogenized perspective about a specific topic and you basically can't you can't really enter a new idea into like a social group if they're have a homogenized idea and with athletes There's something going on with athletes Myself and one have played for so long different sports, especially in team sports where there's some sort of a collective intelligence that's happening that is it's it's in a sense it's it's some sort of an extrasensory perception and There's something going on between the teammates where they're able to be in complete surrendered flow to communication and Sharing so ultimately rupert what we can have science do to further prove this Is more randomized control trials around How our capacity to quickly learn around the world new ideas? And so this can be a way for science to further probe and understand that with all these examples um Yes, well looking at social fields, um Yes, I think that there are fields that organize social groups and I've looked at these in Animals because all social animals have social fields. They all have to coordinate members of the group And when you look at flocks of starlings, for example, which we have here in England in the winter huge flocks up to a million birds They fly around before dusk um And the whole flock can change direction It almost immediately without the individuals bumping into each other They know not only where the others are But where they're going to go and the same is true of schools of fish And so there's something about animal groups that they can be coordinated by some kind of invisible connection And the best computer models of these flock behaviors treat them as as fields as if they're a bit like iron filings In a magnetic field. Each individual iron filing is not doing the organizing itself It's within a larger structure of which it's part And I think members of social groups are like that I think that's why you were talking about a kind of Consensus views that you get in societies. I mean scientific paradigms are like that thomas kuhn Wanted out that with at any given time the scientists share a common model of reality a paradigm And anything that doesn't fit in is dismissed or ignored or treated as heretical But then there's a scientific revolution And another paradigm takes over another model of reality And and then the same thing happens again I mean his model of scientific revolution was rather like sort of old style latin american military Dictatorships where you have a kind of dictatorship that's replaced by a different dictatorship It wasn't scientific revolutions have involved replacing one dictatorship of ideas with another they haven't none of them's Yet been like the declaration of independence where there's sort of democracy hit science We're still in the old model of You know at any given time and right now the dominant world view is mechanistic materialism It's coming apart at the edges and it's as I show in my book science set free called the science delusion in the uk These dogmas of materialism are actually being outgrown by science itself. We're going beyond them So there's there's a sense in which social fields constrain our thoughts They also link us together and in team sports Um, they can lead to this coordination. That's sort of unconscious and almost automotive sort of automatic and Michael Murphy looked into this, you know, the founder of the ensaline institute who's very keen on on Looking at sports as an evolutionary phenomenon and in his book the psychic side of sports um co-authored with real white he um Talks about how interviewing he interviewed American football players And a lot of them felt they were sort of telepathic with other members of the team But none of them dared say so in the locker room Because they thought the others would think they were weird um But this is going on all the time. I think in in sports activities And it's this connection between members of groups within the social field that underlies telepathic phenomena Like dogs knowing when their owners are coming home and mothers knowing when their baby needs them When they're miles away from the baby So I think we're linked together with members of our families and members of other social groups through these social fields Ultimately, this is our responsibility to create randomized control trials to probe this