 Thank you all for joining us today. This is a Dolores Cannon original support forum webinar And today is the 10th of November 2016 and I have with me a very special guest and friend Laurie Paulina a wonderful Practitioner and a truly great guy all around he's got some great stories to share so today we are Looking at discussing a couple of topics by request one was trans depth there's You know a lot of discussion in our community about the Seministic state and the different brainwave states and hypnosis and Visualization and where we are and where our brain state is during all of this and we talk about that all the time and What Dolores mostly talked about was the seminalistic state and its Importance in healing and as I was thinking about how we were going to discuss that I thought about Laurie Particularly because he has some really great stories personal stories very personal stories where he can talk to you about What depth of trance he was in and how all that happened for him in various forms and stories He has at his own personal healing and that's why I've asked Laurie to join me today, but he's not the only one Okay, we want to talk about that practitioners all across the board are getting healings in sessions sometimes During the interview portion Session okay sitting in those chairs Sometimes I mean one of my best stories ever is of a woman just laying there If you didn't participate in the session one way or another that most people would have thought that was a complete and utter failure and It was one of the most extraordinary outcomes. I have had to date in eight years so, you know, we need to talk about the seminalistic state and possibly why it's not completely required for healing and Because Laurie has such great stories That's why I thought those two things might align nicely today Your stories and for you in the community to get to know Laurie a little bit his stories and also, you know, pretty much Talk around this topic about trance and trance depth So I want to welcome everybody, but I want to especially welcome you Laurie. So I'm gonna I'm gonna start out by Telling you all the first time I ever met Laurie and it's such a fond memory of mine it was in September of 2014 which was going to end up being the last classes that Dolores Cannon would ever teach and I've In in real life Anyway, and I have such fond memories of this and Very warm memories and I know many of you out there Have them as well. It was her largest class ever and upon reflection and speaking with many of you after the fact weeks months and even years after the fact many of you Knew what I also knew in my heart, which was that's the last that was going to be her last class And it was so anyway I showed up early to open up the auditorium doors for the class the level one class that day and When I walked into the convention center and it's like really early, you know And I don't know probably have my coffee or something and there's the spell of standing right by the door And that's Laurie and his eyes were like this slide and he was and he had like a notebook or something on his chest and You just you couldn't contain the enthusiasm It was so astonishing just that meeting the the utter joy that was exuding from you and your body About being there it just warmed my heart then and even now remembering it and you I think already started to tell me your story even there at the front door once when I was unlocking the door to go in for the auditorium in the classroom and so this is a really great place I think for you maybe to tell the story Laurie. I know I sent the link or put up the link look at the We'll put the link up on this as well to go to your website and people can read in Text your story, but why don't you give us your story in your own words right now, Laurie? all right, I was at that front door much earlier, but Nobody was there, so I didn't know that I went for a cup of coffee and came back But I was so excited to be there and I Guess I had been fresh Fresh off the miracle belt and just was so enthused to learn to Lars's technique, but I'll give you my story. I had a long history of soul-searching and and philosophic background and was always searching for things and always trying to you know awaken as best as I could and I was living in Denver at the time. I had lived 20 years in Santa Fe as an artist and Moved to Denver and stayed with some friends of mine who had a big house and I was able to stay with them and work a little bit for them and So I was at their B B Hest, you know, I was trying to fit in there and be helpful and stuff like that and I and I worked for them and I Practiced music and walked and made dinners for them. So I was constantly active at their house and I Had to go back to Buffalo where I'm from Because my mom had passed away and my brother who had been her caretaker was sort of just lost you know, he thought that she was going to be senile for the rest of eternity and A close friend of mine said, oh, well, you should read Michael Newton's books Journey of souls and destiny of souls and so I read them and it was amazing in that I had believed in in Reincarnation but my only venture Find out about it was the Tibetan Book of the Dead and that was you know, it said you died You came back and forth. You had 40 days to come back. It just didn't Resonate with me. It didn't make sense. And so I never took it any further But I did believe there was a spirit realm and all that so I You know, I wanted to Find out about the spirit realm. I read those books and I was so turned on by it I I sent it to my cousin Janet who the next day sent me a leak to Dolores's the More Kevin Moore show and it was just an audio I didn't even see her and so I was listening to it and she just Blew the top of my head off. It was like everything. She said it was just spot-on and Resonated in my body. I mean, I think she you know opened up every chakra and then some you know right away And I said I have to Read these books, you know, because she talked about her books So I went to the library and thanks to Dolores's method of inter library loan, which I suggest to everyone I was able to get her all of her I think it was 17 books at the time Through the Denver library which had none none of those books on their own And I read all 17 of them in a matter of two months so I was just everybody was making fun of me at the dinner table because I was I said you don't understand. This is too great And uh It was just tremendous and then I said to myself. Well, I really have to study with her You know, I got this feeling like she wasn't gonna I was just flabbergasted that reading those books that she was still alive number one Number two that she was still teaching. It was like, oh my god But you know, I was very practical and I said, all right Well, I'll get a session in Denver with a practitioner and see if I like the modality and you know If it's something I think I can do because I had never done hypnosis I do psychic work and And spiritual counseling, but I was never really into hypnotherapy. So I had a session the woman was lovely and very matter of fact and She just said No matter what say Okay, when I asked to speak to your higher self And so I did 111 I'm just saying it's 111 as I'm checking the time go ahead. Okay. So, uh Don't rush me Candice This joke So it wound up being that uh That when she asked I had a crooked back my shoulders were Uneven due to a childhood accident and my sacrum was crooked and my left Foot was pronated and sort of just life not lifeless, but I mean, I couldn't really walk on it I just sort of used it almost like a peg leg so the left leg was weird the foot and And Left shoulder was a good, you know, two and a half three inches lower than my right shoulder and I had Continuously been suffering for the past maybe year and a half with really bad stiffness in the back that I couldn't Abide by so I was going to a chiropractor, but he wasn't helping So she asked during you know, and I had a past life or two it was working You know, I was a salamander and a and a space alien But uh, then she said could glory heal his back and at that point I was about as Loosened as I am now and I just sort of chuckled because it's like, I don't know, you know I hope so It's basically what I said. I was so light in trance and um And that was the end of the uh the thing, you know It was just sort of like lame and I uh I Said goodbye to her and she said, you know, just give it a week or so. She says and see what happens So a week to the day was the 4th of july we lived in a fancy part of the neighborhood where they Country club was and on the 4th of july they let off all these bombs, you know explosions and stuff I was home alone. I was practicing the cello and my back was killing me and I said, oh, I'll take a hot bath And maybe I'll feel more uh Well, wouldn't you know one of those explosions, uh Came all the way to the house. I don't know how it happened, but uh I guess my higher self must have coordinated it, but it exploded right next to the bathroom window and With like, you know boom, you know and it rattled the window and the energy of this explosion uh went You know rifled right through me and uh The second that happened I looked down and the first thing I saw was my chest and it was In a gray wool suit with gold buttons and a whole bunch of metals to the left and I gathered immediately that I was I was wearing a confederate outfit I just Looked down further and I saw blood everywhere and I looked down further and I didn't have any legs and I saw at a distance my legs and It was so rivetingly real that I thought that I just said to myself I'm dead. That's the end of my life. You know it's over. Oh my god, you know and then one second later I realized I was in the bathtub All of a sudden it was like then And I said, oh my god this is The time now, you know, it's the present is now and I'm in a bathtub and it's not that you know and the Relief from this traumatic experience was like overwhelming and in fathoming this relief. I saw what looked like You know like when you're looking at a A grill and the heat waves come up So I saw like an invisible heat wave or whatever of that trauma Apparently like just lived out of me. You know, I just saw it rise to the ceiling and then I Felt elated but I was more like freaked out than elated and I said I am getting out of this bathtub right now Like, you know voodoo bathtub or something. So I jumped out of the bathtub and I dried off and being crooked and like You know older, you know, I was obsessed with like how bad I'm looking, you know So I always looked in the mirror, you know to see how just how crooked I was and how old I was and My shoulders were straight and I said What, you know, this can't be so I I spent the next week. I didn't tell anybody I spent the next week looking in the mirror looking in reflections in shop windows and tried to see if I was holding myself differently or whatever and Every time I looked perfectly straight uh I also had a shoe lift because I had a special shoe and had a metal arch in it and a and a shoe lift and uh I walked every morning for like three miles. So I Didn't take the shoe lift off because I just didn't believe that anything was really really happened and Lo and behold my back started to hurt. So I took I said, I'm going to just take it out and see if it You know works whatever and all of a sudden it was fine. My back didn't hurt at all and I just couldn't believe it. So I called her up a week later and I said I waited a week I tested everything out and you know, I feel completely You know normal my back is You know, and she said, oh, yeah. Yeah, that happens. She was like she could care less She could care less but she she was just so I heard that before. Yeah, it was like just normal so, uh, I immediately uh Like called up and and booked the Dolores, uh class and I went Tarkin saw and that's why I was so excited was because I had such a miraculous healing um, then we broke up at the end of the week into groups and Cynthia Buckner was my partner and and One other person, uh, Holly. I forget her last name and and we all did healings on each other and what I noticed about Cynthia when Holly did her Was that at one point she looked like she was having A heart attack or something. I was like looking at her like what's going on and afterward She said I felt like I was being electrocuted. She said I will never doubt the sc because You know, it was so rivetingly painful, but like present So I registered that in my head and then She did Cynthia it was my turn and Cynthia did me and she said Uh The second time the sc really came through I was having a life as a eagle and it was incredible I mean, it was like a a scope with lines, you know, uh, the vision was like, uh, like a Like a telescope on a on a naval ship or something So if you look down you can see the longitude and latitude lines So if anything moved you could zero in on on it and pick it up. So being an eagle was fantastic and, uh Towards the end I felt like mud was being splashed in my eyes and I said well, what's this all about And I looked down and there I had a talon And in the talon was a snake and the snake must have been picked up from a river bed or something And it was splashing wet mud in my eagle eye And because I had terrified to just You know Figure out what that was I heard in the distance like some voices And I noticed they were saying well He doesn't Were mean to him because he doesn't listen to us And I realized that that was my own voice that Cynthia had already begun the sc part And that because I had Dallied to figure out what the mud was that I just sort of like Bifurcated or something and so that's what happened Uh, so she said well, she was such a great practitioner and she said if lori promises to do what you say, you know Listen to you will will you heal his left foot? And the reason my foot was so lame was because of the calf muscles They were like atrophied from not use or the crooked spine or whatever So I came back to Denver And on the plane I noticed something I made a mental note of something that was going on in a cloud It just was phenomenal or whatever. So when I finally listened to my tape It said look It it mentioned that cloud moment The tape did it was like they were Trying to tell me like, you know We're telling you the future or whatever and then I said, what did I promise? You know here I promise something So I listened to the tape and it said you must rest Well, it turned out that I had been an artist all my life and Never had funding from my family So I was struggling to survive my whole life And I did a great job up to like 57 years old or whatever But it was getting hairy and I was living with these people trying to save money so I was just constantly constantly Efforting and trying to survive trying to make money trying to you know get my career You know art and music going all the time in different cities and I was like Bedraggled from all this, you know aggressive You know survival and it was kind of like that eagle That was a similar message and that eagle past life anyhow I said, all right They they said I have to rest so I'm not going to get up at six in the morning and go walking I'm not going to practice the cello before work. I'm not going to Come home from work and You know make dinner for everybody. I'm not going to make my macrobiotic lunches Early in the morning. I'm just going to lay in bed and go to work and then come back and rest So I did that for a month and while I laid there I had some realizations and one of them was that I was telling everyone I was exploded by a bomb and Then I said, well, this was a civil war. There were no bombs. So it was a cannon and then I said, oh my god Dolores cannon and then I said, well, what does Dolores mean? I had a cousin named Dolores and we always knew that meant pain in Spanish. Dolores means pain So a painful cannonball stopped me from killing in the civil war and then Dolores cannon In this life gave me new marching orders to be, you know, doing healings and waking people up So I realized I had two run-ins with Dolores cannon In my life and so that was the beginning of it. Then I realized, you know, sort of the grievous egregious errors of war and all that stuff and I started to really decide to, you know, make some shifts and really stop struggling and maybe let the universe start to Do its half rather than me doing three quarters and it doing, you know, here and there And so It said if I did what it said it would heal the leg in two months. Well in a month and a half I Uh Was sleeping in the middle of the night and at midnight I it was the october 26th or whatever I felt like I was having I was being electrocuted when I was a kid I went to a fun house and they had a Chair there that had a little bolt going through it. So I knew what that felt like, you know Supposed to be funny, but it wasn't and so I didn't know what to do and I I realized if I deeply breathe it will Um a bait, you know, because you know deeply breathing is so great So I did that and 20 minutes later it stopped and I said That must have been what happened to Cynthia because it it felt like how she looked But thought no more of it and I got up to go to work I took a shower. I went to put my shoes on and my foot would not fit into that Medaled shoe, you know, it was all built for a lame foot and you know, it just wouldn't fit So I had some sneakers that didn't have that set up in it and um And I I just realized I was standing on the edge of my foot correctly It was like all of a sudden usually I could pretend like I was standing correctly But I couldn't hold it for more than a second But now I was without even thinking about it I was completely standing on it correctly and the muscle was in the macath was holding it up No problem and to this day, which is years later. I've not Stood the other way. I've stood stood correctly It did take two months of walking around the park very slowly and seeing how my right foot touched the ground When I walked and then imitated with my left because I was just like, you know walk Slam my foot down walk slam my foot down now both feet started to walk correctly So you were you were learning re-learning how to walk because I think you were telling me when you were first telling me this story You said you used to kind of just throw that foot Yeah, and then just plop it down like, you know, just like a piece of uh, you know steak or something You know, uh, it was almost like a peg leg. Although I had a foot on it And it was many many years, right? My memory is I was like 13 till 57 or something. Yeah Yeah, crazy And to this day I continually walk and the arch which wasn't there before Slowly over the years has carved out just like water Rubbing against the stone or something. So now I have an arch in both feet Uh And so I'm gonna stop you because I want to I want to ask some questions and and I know you've got more stories But for uh for people who are listening. I've been taking a few notes. So, um I want to I want to mention some things and then I want to ask you some questions if that's okay So the first thing is and I'm learning, you know, you and I have talked Many times since meeting in 2014 but I've Because of the wonderful way you've told your story today. I've learned more about Uh, some of the timing and some of the things that were going on here So when you had your very first initial session in Denver, you said you were a salamander and a space alien But you did not experience a civil war life. Is that true? Not at all Isn't that interesting so for the practitioners out there think about this, right? You know, he He didn't even go to the place that seems to be the the impetus of what happened to your sacrum, right? You you had a salamander and a space alien life. Um, may I ask What did you learn about those two experiences? Why did your higher self say that? I I was Surprised when you just started to ask how it all of a sudden it clicked in my head this salamander I was like looking at I was it something like a salamander in the vietnam war You know And and it was like I was climbing up tanks and stuff like these like green light green tanks with like big You know nozzles on them or whatever a tank has to shoot And i'm like You know like what are these people doing? What are the What we're you know, it was like you're in my jungle and all of a sudden We're killing each other. What how ridiculous is this so I climbed up to a tree And looked down at it and it was just like baffled So so that's what clicked in my head is like it was sort of like This this is when I started to realize how war is maybe ridiculous Where in the civil war I might have bought into the idea And then the space alien thing was When we went to take the class it was in the hilton that I stayed and we also had The class next to it or whatever and it had this enormous Lobby It was like eight stories high You know And all the rooms were around the periphery of this huge lobby. Well this life as an alien I Was on a ship and then the next thing I know I was in a plate like a you know like this front Cement entrance to what looked like a glass dome and I walked in it and it looked just like That lobby except it was all glass And I stood there and I looked up at like maybe the eighth floor or whatever and there was a panel of council And they said they were chewing me out not really but they were Letting me know in no uncertain terms that I had failed In whatever it was My mission was and I just felt like You know like boy. I'm getting chewed out. You know not really but But it was a disappointment because I had failed and I don't know what the subject matter was Okay, um, I want to mention a couple other things when you Talked about the explosion going off by okay. No wait, but I'm going to back up and ask first and mention this I have a memory telling me about this story before and Correct me if I'm wrong you said Before going in to take your bath. You had listened to the session for the first time Is that true or my mystery? You are right. I I had uh I just said, uh, you know, they said to listen to it a number of times. So I said, uh You know And this was before I practiced this was a few minutes before I practiced I just listened to the healing part. I wasn't going to listen to anything else I just listened to the healing part, which was very short. I mean And it was you saying I'm right here. It's just me. This sounds like I'm just talking like we're sitting on the sofa, right? Right. So I I when she said ken lorry. She said it in such a mysterious way Heal his back or could you heal lorry's back? And it was like you asking me this right this minute. So I just said, well, I don't know. I hope so Right and it just sounded like you and you're only just said I hope that okay. Yeah, I wanted I wanted to make sure Okay, so so that's number one I want I wrote it down when you said this when you said that the explosion happened by the window And then that energy, you know what word you used the energy rifled through you It did So that I picked that on that right away Well, it's interesting that you're saying that because the final story that you're going to ask me Yes had to do with the rifle wound. Yes And we're going to talk about that too But before we even move on to that, I also want to say and as I'm saying this now my body is buzzing wildly You had this entire experience immersed in water Water which we are talking about with the idea of you know The beyond quantum healing or some of the information that is coming through from the loris and or Emoto from various sources Talking about the importance of using water in a session drinking it putting intentions in it Even at the webinar we had in Missouri talking about the idea of putting somebody's feed in it during a session Which all sounds a little hokey-hoey and whatever and even I didn't Think to your specific session is till you started talking about How your entire experience here happened with you kind of immersed in water And I mean I'm kind of imagining you kind of laying back and being That's exactly what happened, but I do have to say, you know On top of that that bomb exploding next to the Window was really Yeah orchestration of my Higher self, you know that was orchestrated But yes the the medium that I was in was water and it did have a very vivid Recreation going there. Mm-hmm. That's really amazing. Okay Um So go ahead and uh, you know, one of the reasons I was trying to Send something on the chat here. It said I can't do that. It's not everyone's there. I don't know why it's I was just going to say To crystal. Yes. Thank you Crystal before we even got to that was talking about that, you know that you were in water when all of this happened And it's it's what I wrote down and and mentioned just now out loud um You had some really interesting things happen subsequently about The the confederate soldier and then something else and another healing that happened to you and this this This particular healing and I want everyone to realize this too Didn't I mean have anything to do with the session? I think you know all of this study and all of these ideas and all of these other sessions And and this work that we do brought you to a place Where you had a healing that you literally watched happen just I don't even know where you were sitting on your own sofa or whatever So go ahead and tell us that story. Okay, so um And and then maybe talk later about the the development of the civil war thing Do either whatever makes most sense for you because I don't have all the facts straight, but you know Stories are amazing Well, they're all related. So I'll tell you the third story Which is so I get back to denver. I have the two miracles behind or under my belt and then I still uh Had some issues which developed and so I said to myself I had a cough that was just not stopping It was like I've had coughs all my life. This did not stop And also the weirdest thing happened You know living in denver. I don't know what kind of spiders they have there and one Morning I woke up and it was like I looked at my leg and it looked like I had gotten bit by some like nasty spider and I I monitored it for like a day or two and Instead of it like rising and becoming swallowing or whatever it sunk Like, you know when rain hits on a grave and makes it sink a little bit And I said, well, what is this a brown recluse or something? Is it eating my leg from within, you know So I took my pants off at the dinner table and showed everybody just a little bit, you know And sorry I'm just imagining going on record and Everybody said, oh, yeah, it is sunken, you know, and all I could think of was it looked like a bullet hole It was that size well as the days weeks and month proceeded it Changed and it looked like the size of a chicklet, you know chick they come But not the little ones they made those jumbo ones which was about you know that size and It was on my leg my right leg and it started to grow and it was like blue and purple and it didn't hurt and it didn't itch but it was sort of like somewhere in between there and I it started to get thick so it was about an inch and a half or more Like subcutaneously and above the skin And I didn't have health insurance, you know part of my struggling life and uh So I just said, uh, what is this going to turn into and So I finally said, you know, I'm doing all these Healings, you know all these sessions because you know, I wanted to go to level two right away So I had like 10 sessions 15 sessions under my belt at that point And I said, I'm talking to everybody else's SC. Why can't I talk to my own? so I said, well maybe if you just You know because it was sort of there even though I wasn't deeply entranced So maybe I can just talk to it, you know, so I lay down and asked it for you know If I asked it for a healing I just sort of started to build a relationship with it That's what I was doing and said I loved it and show me more of who you are and all that stuff And then at one point I said, all right I'm just going to use my own voice. So I said Higher self, uh, could I please speak with you and then with my own voice? I said, yes And then I said, uh, could you heal my cough And at that time I was working with a whole bunch of people and there's some people at the top that were very very abusive and I got an intuitive hit like is loud This can be that said no You are getting abused at work and every time you cough, that's you saying no to the abuse And I said, all right that sounds, you know, I'll buy that and I'll take note, you know Think of that And then without dropping a beat. I just said, could you Well, how about my chiclet on my leg? No sooner did I say those words and all of a sudden it felt like because I watched the movie austin powers There's a laser beam I felt like a laser beam stitching You know like horizontally the length of this thing and then vertically the width of it Like someone had stitched over it patched over it with a sewing machine And I almost think I heard crackling You know like how a laser beam would crackle as it's burning into metal or something And after that finished I was like so You know flabbergasted I like Second time in the same month. I pulled my pants And I looked and it was gone the patch That remained was what looked like burnt skin it was sort of like I don't know Skin colored but like burnt like my cousin is a Nurse and I went to her immediately and she said lori that looks like It was burned the skin looks burned and So I was just and then a week later There was a penumbra around the the area that was red and it was It was like it was uh expunging What had vaporized below the skin? And so someone gave me some clay and I put it on there and it sucked it out, you know And so then it was gone and over a year passed and I moved to buffalo and You know, there was a couple little red spots on this patch. It was sort of beige and red And almost like if you were sifting something or if you had sand and you turn the vibration and it made a pattern It seemed like as it was healing slowly the skin finally turned back to normal What remained was a dusting of red and when I looked it I kept on it it started to look like numbers, but I said, oh, what is this 53 or what a Finally it it reached its its final position and it said 33 And I have a picture of it that is just incontrovertible. Do you have that? I do go get that. Well, I mean it's on my phone though. I don't know if this is okay so Now this is the second part of this story and that is that um Excuse me second part of the story is that prior to any Dolores can an activity I He took a painting class right painting class. Yes. Sorry. I'm looking for this picture That's all right. I was gonna I was gonna help you out here a little bit while you're while you're searching so lori took this painting class in the and the Assignment was to paint a portrait And I think that lori just painted a portrait out of his own imagination And he They said to just uh, you know paint Uh Anything and just use your imagination. So I did and uh Because I was going to paint a picture of the people that I've lived with and I wanted to do a nice job So I took a painting class and did that and after I did that it it turned out that uh That the person It sort of painted itself. It was kind of weird and then it looked like the person was a civil war person And I said, uh What's this about, you know, and so I made gold buttons on on him, you know, and then I made epaulets like right here Just because I know that you know, I like van Gogh and he painted a portrait of a postman and so I sort of imitated that And I tried to get those epaulets to look realistic and they didn't so I said to myself Um, all right. Well, I will Just fashion This one to look like a three which I did and then I did the other one with the three Yeah, like Mary Yeah, and then it didn't look right. So I switched the other three to a a real three and so And I thought nothing of it other than you know, that looks better and I left it like that and then I I put it away moved to Buffalo And when I was decorating my apartment, I put this portrait up and uh And it was a it wasn't a confederate. It was a blue, you know, like a northern Well, it's called a Yankee and so, um so, uh I had it up in the the on the ceiling there and I had a client come and she was super intuitive and uh and she looked at that and she said that person Killed you in a past life and I said, oh, I thought it was myself who had died in a past life and, um Candice, I don't know where this is Put this up later as a link to So don't worry about it. Okay. Yeah Telling your story. I know it's distracting. I showed it to someone just the other day. So I thought it was right there So She said no that that person Um, that's a confederate and he was from or that he was a Yankee and he was from the 33rd Regiment and I said Oh, that's what the 33 is So I thought oh, I will go Now let me just back up one second. This was when they said the three waves of ascension and uh, September 28th of 2015 was the first wave All that month. I was feeling like my insides were being burned alive Like I was just all the negativity was being burned up. I felt like I was being cleansed and purified and And they said the 28th was going to be the first ascension. I said I I'm going through it right now I mean it really feels like it. Well, this was on the 28th and when this client left she said that's the man that killed you and Uh, he was from the 33rd regiment Well, I'm sorry to back up one more time But I am an Emily Dickinson fanatic and I've studied her all my life And the sad part about Emily Dickinson seemingly was that she Was so afraid to be public that um At one point a man who owned a publishing company said Anybody he put this out in the newspaper anybody that thinks they're talented enough to write Send me your poems and I will publish them if you're good enough And she sent him epic Palms that were mind-blowing and he wrote back and said sorry you're not talented enough And she continued to send him better and better poems if they could even get better And he rejected all of them When she died she hadn't published at all and so her sister Got him to publish her work, but he Obliterated it. He said I'll publish it, but I have to fix it because it's so bad So he changed it all so for the next 70 years The american public only read his version of her poems So he I wanted to strangle him And his name was thomas wentworth higginson Well A couple years ago. I lived with an artist. He was having a show. He invited me to Dartmouth college to hang the show. He said I got you a bed and breakfast. You will stay there I did I came down to breakfast the people that owned the bread and breakfast were there and I looked at their wall of You know things like all these pictures behind me and I looked at one of the pictures I said I know him and the lady said oh you can't she said that's my great-grandfather and I said it's thomas wentworth higginson She said you're right And I said well, I'm an emily dickinson Oh, like and you know And she said oh, he was so wonderful and he helped her so much, you know I was like I I had to hold myself back from strangling her and uh, so So just that's the background of thomas wentworth higginson. Anyway, so uh, I The lady left she said the 33rd regiment and she said uh, she said And I said I have a 33 on my leg and she says well, yes, they they would brand the people they killed with their Stamp, you know, like we killed the 33rd regiment killed this confederate soldier So and I showed her and she said yep, that's what it looks like So she left and I went immediately to the internet to see about the 33rd regiment and Could I find a picture of that guy? Well, I found a picture of that guy and he was the head commander of the Whatever and the 33rd regiment, uh the Supreme leader of that it said thomas wentworth higginson And I said what and I looked and and then it had a link to emily dickinson And that when he finally got out from the north being the commander of the 33rd, uh, you know He set up this newspaper and had a counter Conversation with her and you know all that stuff. So It was that day the 28th of ascension It was like all of a sudden the veils were opening up and I was seeing that maybe I don't know why I'm so You know emily dickinson is just like so part of me So it's like, you know, could I have been like part of her? And this guy at the same time because it happened at the same the 1860s So, um, you know, could that be and that that was my nemesis in that life You know and You know what i'm saying? I do So it's amazing amazing connections and so so many fabulous stories You know, since we were starting to talk about trans depth and um and proving healing. I wonder if you couldn't just Talk about your own Realizations right now what trans depth and what mind state is That you've come to the conclusion is necessary to achieve some of the really miraculous healings that you've had and also a little bit possibly about We we ran out of time beforehand I was going to talk to you about some of because I believe you've had like scans and then re scans We've had some of those questions. So if you would talk about You know mind states trans depth healing what you think are the real components the necessary components for healing and then some of maybe, you know, what you have for testing and Maybe a way that we can present that or maybe places that you've already presented it to the public yeah well as far as all that proof stuff I had a Let's get that wrong zero not xerox x-ray of my back prior to it and afterwards and my chiropractor went over it with me and he did show me where The sacrum did not like shift but the rest of the back straightened itself out and he did You know, he measured it and he wrote the differences in measurement between the two and I have those And uh my foot uh, I mean I didn't take a picture of my foot before but uh, but Everybody that knows me my family I could get people to testify because I mean they've lived with me All my life and known the whole thing um What other proof that the thing on my leg I have people that were with me my cousin susan saw it I took pictures of it Before and after So, you know, do you still have those pictures and and can you see the 33 on them? It's I think you might have sent one of those to me. I think you could Yeah, I did send you the 33 one And I do have the picture. I know I emailed it off off of my phone To to me. So I just have to go dig it out of my emails Yeah, if I would I I went swimming with my iphone and it took The pictures away, but uh, maybe they're on the cloud. I don't know but uh, but I do have them in email I'd have to search them out But Depths of trance You know what I learned from Dolores when In that last class, um, that she taught I you know, I I sort of read all those books and it was all, you know, synombe elastic Right channeled type of books and um, so I said, you know I had a this miraculous healing and it was lighter, but it You know, and she I said, you know, I was not in that deep state and she said, yeah, we're seeing that Now, um, a lot more that people's vibrations have raised and they don't really need to go that deep but I mean, I I really had this like, um I really had this question for her because it was like You're saying everybody goes into this deep thing and I'm living proof that you don't or you don't have to right, um Then what I found More helpful Than any physical healing And this is interesting. My brother asked me he said does it feel like a miracle all this stuff and I said I thought and I said no it feels more like That was a bad dream and I woke up from it So that's interesting but More important than any physical healing was The realization that we are embers of god Our soul is an actual piece of god and it resides in house and our journey in ascension or enlightenment or awakening is to forge A relationship with This element which is sort of the parent and the partner you never had You know, the only one that could really give you love the only one that could really guide you And uh, and so to build a relationship and that it is possible to build a relationship by just speaking to it and so I went on a journey from that day to build a relationship with my higher self and And in retrospect, I think what caused My healing and I have a sneaking suspicion would help other people to heal is that I was willing To change I was willing to stop efforting to Let my heart melt By sort of like loving myself and calming down and trusting my higher self and learning to work with it like a co-pilot would work with a pilot and and By calming my Sort of inflamed ego or my emotional mind By calming it down And working more with the help and the guidance And the comfort of the higher self. I was able to start Making choices from my heart rather than constantly from the brain trying to get ahead and I give you a quick example, you know, like rather than Saying oh that person's brother-in-law works at the company. I want to get a job at I'm going to have them over for dinner and pick His brain Instead you don't even think like that you just notice that she's depressed and you invite her over for dinner And and then she she mentions. Oh, my brother-in-law works here. You should get together with him So it's sort of like your heart makes the choice and then everything works out rather than you Half a brain co-pilot, you know trying to enact The journey of your life rather than working hand in hand with the one that wrote The the sequence of events in your life You know, can we go back? Can I ask you about your cough? um, you had a cough and it was because of Abuse yeah, and and what may I ask happened with that? A week later, uh, I went down to Mexico because the people I stayed with wanted They had a house in Mexico and they've been wanting me to go forever So we went down and I got there and There was a bowl of limes A gigantic bowl of limes and maybe 45 limes And my friend said, I don't know what we're going to do with all these And that night I couldn't stop coughing and I went to the lime bowl I cut one and a half and squeezed the whole thing into a tea cup and I poured They had honey I poured some honey in there and then There was some tequila because they had tons of tequila and I put tequila And I drank it and I slept through the night the first time in like three weeks And all I did was drink non-stop. I drank all of those 45 limes and it went away, you know Laurie and probably a half a bottle of tequila Laurie, you know what? I have to tell you something. I could pick up this computer right down and go show you But I've got this bowl of limes in my kitchen right now and one of the last things when I was getting my drink Do you see this and it's got a little bit of juice in it Yeah, because I said what am I going to do with this bowl of limes? I can't believe you're coming That's funny There's so many connections so many connections between people between events between between things You know, it's just astonishing if it The one thing that I want people who are Attending this webinar to know especially those of you who you know We're only around Dolores for your initial class or your only class or maybe only online That sentence that Laurie Said just a few minutes ago about That Dolores that Dolores said We're finding these things are changing is so true These were conversations that I had with Dolores in classes at the end of her life You know that year 2014 we would talk about it and these amazing things that would happen in sessions Like I said during the interview portion or and I know that you all or I believe that you all have heard these stories before too within classrooms and also within some of Dolores cannon's lectures just being in The audience and listening to some of these stories People were able to access whatever it was make whatever changes They needed to to have healing without going to the synambulistic state when we first put the Support forum together way back in 2008 For a good many months Those of us those first few people who came together and were asking each other questions because we were all new We would ask ourselves What are we doing wrong because we found that not everyone went to the synambulistic state And we didn't find that everyone was feeling and we would ask ourselves. What are we doing wrong? and of course it took a great deal of Question questioning and access to Dolores and time to pass to realize and understand a few things Number one. We weren't doing anything wrong and neither are you out there Not at all and Dolores herself again and towards the end of her life Would come to us and talk about how the synambulistic state didn't seem to be necessary anymore for healing But this is not how she taught and it's not how she taught even to the end and even in her final classes, she was not going to teach that and It's because of Dolores cannon and her style Just because something new would come down or some new realization would happen or she would notice something changing or expanding Or morphing or whatever She didn't just start talking about it. She didn't just start teaching it. She didn't just start doing it. She wanted many examples of whatever it was To come down the road and be presented to her Before she would use it and particularly before she would talk to her students about it So even there at the end when she was noticing it She still wasn't talking about it and when she was doing her teaching she was in that zone where she was teaching the way she was teaching And she was you know in her mid 80s and everybody who knows people in that time Framed they can and I I will say that I believe Dolores is one of those people who just she was very comfortable You know, she's very comfortable in in doing things this way And she was going to keep doing them and it's not if she was going to live another 15 years or 20 years I fully expect and suspect that she would have changed some of these things in that way But not until they were more solid not until she saw them more So she was seeing a lot of the things that we were seeing She just wasn't ready to add that information into her classrooms to talk about it At the end So I wanted to make sure that you know, we we mentioned that so even though she saw it And she wasn't really talking about it. Yeah, I I you know Dolores was a consummate researcher and corroborator, you know, she was very much scientifically focused and She was very responsible and her Findings and her research and her methods so But when she I know when she answered that question to me for me About oh, yeah, we're seeing a lot more that the vibration is raising and people don't need to go there. She I was really I was expecting not to be satisfied with her answer And when she said that it went into a different level In me, you know, just like when on the 28th I had that realization and all the veils of the different lives and the connections between the players and those different lives Was revealed. It's like I get it, you know the higher your vibration the more everything opens up the connections can be seen behind the veil And it's all an orchestrated assembly of guides spirits players You know realizations thoughts Promptings, it's all like a soup, you know that that without this amnia Amnesia, how do you say amniatic fluid or whatever? You know that we can't see all all the connections, you know, once it's lifted, you know, it all fits together like a glove and she You know, she was very responsible in what she was doing. Yeah She was she was very careful and I love that about her. She you know, she didn't just she she was like a sailboat who would you know set course and And she was you know, she would have a direction just because some stray wind came Through she wasn't going to change course just because of that. So even though she was noticing some of this towards the end You know again, that didn't make it into her classroom. So I don't see any questions Or anybody asking anything in the chat room about any of this that we're talking about but And we've been on We've been just past an hour, but I'm I'm happy to hear any more thoughts You know, one of the things that if you don't mind I I'd I'd kind of like to talk about I don't know if this kind of aligns with our topic or not, but A session that you Laurie did for me in March of 2015 I think you probably remember that session. We were there and you were taking the level to class and I was also there assisting in In all of the classes at the time This is just a really interesting session that I've never felt that I've gotten completely Some nambulistic either I have a very strong analyzer left brain logic side of my brain And what I found really So Unique and interesting about the session we did so Laurie facilitated a session on me And in a way my brain was in three areas So I was um Wait, oh wait, what are we looking at? Oh, oh back it off. You're too close back it back it off a little Yeah, stop now hold it real still can y'all see that 33 That's amazing now now go find now go find that uh painting. It'll be even cooler. There's uh My underwear And then uh, here's the painting. Oh good. Oh good. He's gonna show us the painting So I'll pause my story while we go look at the painting Well, uh, where is it? Where is it? Oh, it's up. It's up Oh Could you see the Now hold still Isn't that amazing everyone Oh gosh, thank you so much. Thank you for sure. I'm trying to show you the guy. Yeah There he is And he looks at you all the time All right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna finish my story real quick. But anyway, my brain was in three parts There was my conscious mind that was aware of absolutely everything there was um my Higher self that was talking And then there was I don't even know if I've ever said this to you lori. I felt it was kind of like my teaching mind You know my assistant teaching mind. There was a part of me I would speak as my conscious mind my higher self and even then like uh My my teaching, you know, because I just finished Walking from upstairs and you know helping assisting and in teaching in the level two and three classes and uh So during the session laying down and having this session I could I could speak from any one of these perspectives and actually kind of did too, you know, like, okay Here's teaching part of me saying something and here's conscious mind part of me saying something Here's my higher self and whenever I speak with my uh and use my voice to speak for my higher self It's exactly the same way you talked about it earlier on In the webinar when we were talking about it that you just used your own voice and you kind of I mean I don't know about you, but I'm kind of giggling inside when I'm doing it Oh, you know a little it's a little almost like joking, right? But that's way, uh, we did it too. I actually was in a lot of pain. It was one of the reasons we had the session I was uh, actually in the emergency room had been in the emergency room in arkansas Happily my husband was there taking excellent care of me um I had a kidney stone and it You know it showed up on the scan and I was needing to pass this kidney stone And I knew that was going to hurt and I didn't want to so the idea was to have a session to have the kidney stone Uh be dissolved so I didn't have to pass it because that hurts past kidney stone. Okay. You're back You're back. You cut up. Oh, okay. So I wanted a session to pass this kidney stone and My higher self said, okay Um This is how and I think about this all the time especially when I'm walking because I walk on these paths these beautiful paths that My husband created for us here on our farm And my higher self told me in our session that I could dissolve the kidney stone But I had to do something very specific. I had to wear my earthing shoes my earthing boots. They have little copper um Steads through the bottom. So you have direct electrical connection with the earth, right? Um, I would have to walk three miles a day Um for a week or something like that and then that would dissolve my kidney stone and internally I'm I'm having an absolute hysterical fit about how in the world walking With metal on my feet On the planet is going to do anything at all for a stone inside of my kidney, you know my logical part of my brain is having a field day throwing darts at how ridiculous this is, you know and But I did it anyway And that whole week it actually, you know, it was it was I did it for a week and we got all the way back And and I was like day six or whatever and I was still in pain and I went back to my doctor and got He said well, I want you to have another scan And he sent me to go get another to go get another scan and it's friday, right? and I go get the scan on friday and I show up at Oh, I don't know 1 p.m. Or something like that and I show up at the place where they do the scans and I'm in pain and I hand over the paperwork for the to get the scan done And the paperwork doesn't go through And they're like well, they they put the wrong code on this, you know, we need to put we need to get another code This is the wrong code. You can't have the scan and there was like this paperwork snafu So I sat in the waiting room and at first I'm annoyed But not for very long because as we all know you need to go. Why is this happening, right? Why is this happening and I literally was there for two and a half hours Waiting for and they kept apologizing and there was all these things and this you know the fax machine didn't have paper Or I mean it just you know it went on and on and I just sat there laughing because I knew something was up That was going to be helpful for me even though I was in pain And I end up getting the scan really late. So what happens then it's late friday I get a medical scan late on a friday It's not going to get read right everybody all the doctors all the You know all radiologists. They're out playing golf or whatever that you know, I'm going to get my results on monday So the whole time I'm thinking that's because I just need I mean, I'm you know, I'm asking myself Well, that's because you need a couple more days. You need the weekend To go and walk a couple more days with you know with your earthing boots on on the farm And I'm still ouchy. I've done kidney stones before and I was not a happy person And I wake up monday morning and my pain is gone. It is completely gone And first thing that happens after I make my coffee the doctor calls with the results And says honey, I don't know, you know Why you were continuing to have a pain that you are completely clear. There is no kidney stone there at all Now see what would have happened If I'd have gotten my scan early and gotten possibly my results early before having another couple days to walk You know my higher self or they or God or the universe set it all up so that I wasn't going to get any result till monday So that I could get the results that I needed And and it was just astonishing and amazing and so when I think of you laura I think about my you know how I didn't have to pass that kidney stone And um and and how absolutely kind of convoluted and crazy that was go You know go walk with these special shoes this long this long on the ground and then your kidney stone will go It's like what you know, I you never told me that story till now. I didn't know if I did or not so I thought I would so Good, uh, would you write a recommendation for me? Yeah, well you're breaking up a little bit now to my internet connection may be going a little walky, um I think would you would you write a testimonial for me? I will actually I'll do that Yeah, yeah, and it was you know, it's fascinating for me too because there is a part that you know, we as healers You know, it it wasn't lost on me at all that I was spending my day Uh in the classroom with the laura's canon students teaching about self healing and I end up in a medical emergency room in springdale arkansas You know, I mean, it's just surreal. It's absolutely surreal and we won't go into the details and and you know about the root causes But there's all you know, I'll so much make sense. You know it all makes sense. It's all completely for a reason But you betcha I will write you That's funny. I never knew that it it uh healed it. Um what I want to just say again is you know, I've worked with a lot of people and Most people are not ready to change. They're willing to experience things. They're willing to open up They're willing to give it a thought but It's I think more than a deep state You just have to be at the point where you are ready to change And it means it means doing things differently It means Taking, you know, not being a victim Doing some research and learning about how we write our scenarios in life And we're not victims and then we have the freedom to react to them It's all due to the amnesia um, whatever but we have to to uh Find a way to to ask ourselves To you know, show an issue show what What I find really really important is that a lot of times the healing happens in a little while And it's because you're being guided and it might not just be a snafu like a miracle It may be that you have to change your perception like I thought something was happening the other day and I listened to the and I thought it was someone doing something to me And then I watched Joseph Levotsky or whatever video about hypnosis and he pointed to the He said, you know, if you're put taking makeup off you don't take it off of the mirror You take it off of yourself. So I said that to myself. I said, well Maybe I'm gonna take that look and say is this me instead of that person So I did what I could do in my Thing in my sphere and it cleared up Wonderful. So it you know, it was like I was my higher self showed me Got me to watch the joseph thing got me to realize something. I made a change in perception And all of a sudden the resistance I had to this person Let go and as soon as it let go everything got better and then when I realized it was really me Then it really left So, you know, it's it's it's having this relationship with your higher self It's being open to to be shown things through intuition or signs Or just faith That you want a change you want a healing, you know, it comes in many different packages But I think the biggest part of this all is to forge Daily relationship with your higher self Take care of your own emotions Okay Actually, so in the in the question and answer room Nina says The chat room is closed and we can't see both screens. We can only see the person speaking So we didn't get to see the 33 We will make those images available to you all and actually I believe Well, I'm not sure this is this interface is new and it's one of the reasons You know, we're going to practice and do this. I'm not sure what it will look like I'm still trying to figure out what a what a viewer sees what I see what a panelist sees But we will make sure to have the images of the painting and the 33 chicklet Branding number on on Laurie's leg All of you will be able to see that we will make sure I will put it on this video or Um Links to it. Thank you so much for talking about, you know, making a change. I think what is about healing What is important to understand here? You know, we as humans we've been very much programmed especially in the western tradition But we've been programmed that you don't heal yourself. You go to a doctor for healing You go to somebody else for healing and and usually, you know a medical professional somebody who's been trained The only people who can heal you are doctors. This is this, you know, this big fat program in our lives and to even get Some of us interested in the idea that we can heal ourselves by coming to alternative People like us who can help them and help facilitate some self healing That programming is still running a little bit, which is basically I'm going to go do this to go get healing which They still have the same kind of mindset. I'm going to go to Laurie I'm going to go to Candice and they're going to heal me and you know, we try to take that away We try to say no, no, no, that's not the way it works That program, you know that those people have been running under it is very very strong And so sometimes that's where the disconnect of why healing doesn't happen because you're so right There's needs to be some sort of change made because And and I think a fundamental thing is when people come to me I say you may get like, you know fireworks and you may not but what I'm doing for you is I'm showing you that it's possible to have a relationship who with who you really are And and and start to identify with your immortality and start to work with it And that's where interpersonal healing Is and you can access it and if we don't get to it today, at least you will have A relationship started. You'll know how to do it And it's just a matter of whether you'll work at it and and start to get results So did you say fireworks on purpose or on accident? Well, I just came out that but probably we're in there to begin with Oh, okay. Well, Laurie, this has been So wonderful spending this time with you I'd love to do this again at some other point talk about some other sessions or Some other cases that we you know might take us down that road I want to thank you for your time today I'd like to thank those of you also who have joined us today for Taking the time out of your day to listen and to answer some questions and to make Some observations about what's going on here and for those of you who are watching in the future The recording look for more of these and let us know what you want to talk about What kind of things can we talk about? What are you interested in as it concerns this work? There's always so much to talk about. Um, I'm still a little Um Taken aback by the limes the lemon and the water about all this. There's so much more going on Dolores, I think has a lot more to Share in these Tangents of You know exploration of of all the different connections the soup that you're talking about also isn't that interesting, you know liquid The soup of all and what's going on. I think this is an exciting time to be a practitioner. There's More coming to light. There's more available to us More people are hearing Dolores including many practitioners out there. There's still I would say 80 of you out there still too shy to share what you are hearing In their sessions and in your meditations and in your dreams about Dolores that we'd love to have you share them publicly I'm happy to hear it all privately and I'm glad you're sharing in that way, but I'm hoping some of these people will come forward Because Dolores has a lot to say on many other And expanded issues from her expanded perspective right now Lori, this was amazing. Um, thanks again Can you send me and find some good pictures some jpeg images send them to me and I'll get them attached to To this project to this recording for everyone else to see we'll do okay All right. Well, you have a you have a great rest of the day. Thank you all for joining us and see you next time See you on the floor until then. Okay. Bye everybody. Bye Bye