 Thank you very much so we're already I already thank you but that's not we first have to go through something I think before we that's for okay so yeah I'll speak today about the connection Chris repositories possibilities and values that's the title and it's more or less about the interoperability between Chris systems and repository systems my name is Ed Siemens I'm from I work at the Red Boat University in Nijmegen where the last 10-15 years I mainly do international projects IT projects for several university networks but also for some developing countries one important thing I think related to this meeting and to my being here apart from being from Eurochris is that I was the initiator and the project leader of one of the first Chris systems in Europe that was that's called mateys it's a Dutch current research information system and it's currently used by all universities in the Netherlands and the Royal Academy of Sciences so being one of the first systems it's already came about around 1992 when we started so since January 2013 I'm president of Eurochris and this of course also is the main reason why I will speak to you today about the interoperability between Chris systems because we at Eurochris are dealing very much with Chris systems so the structure of the presentation I will give you a short introduction to the Eurochris organization then I will say something about research metadata and the serif data model then I will go a bit into the position of Chris in the research information network as I call it then I will focus more specifically on the topic of the interoperability and I will end with some conclusions now the Eurochris organization we are a foundation legally registered in the Netherlands and we are an international network for information research information expert more specifically developers managers and users of Chris systems I will tell you more about that later we have 177 members today being 117 institutions and 1660 personal members they come from 43 countries 32 European and 11 non-European we have for instance members from Canada the US and South Korea Mexico our structure is we have a board that takes care of the strategy the policy and the management of the organization and excuse me actual work is done by the task groups so we have a task groups on architecture and development what we call best practice and directory of research information systems serif Chris IR so the the link between Chris's and repositories linked open data projects and indicators executive members for conferences strategy and communication our main activities are developing and maintaining the serif data model probably you heard about that model already and providing a platform and a meeting place is also very important for people interested are working in the domain of research information systems we have be annual conferences the next one will be in Rome in 2014 and the team for that conference will be data intensive science we have two members meetings a year the next one will be in bond in May and in November we will be very close to you in Porto and I'm very glad that Lisa Ribeira Professor Lisa Ribeira from the University of Porto is here she will organize the meeting and we have a yearly seminar in Brussels where we exchange ideas visions with our strategic partners one thing we decided recently in the board that we also should start to develop services for the community and one of the first things we will do is to develop what we call a compliance test or compliance application for Chris systems so that developers or vendors who develop Chris systems can then test against our application and then they will get a kind of serif compliance certificate another thing is that we are planning to organize some trainings for instance we submitted a proposal within the framework of EU program for the training of research managers so here are our strategic partners at the moment I think most of you you know ARMA is the European Association of Research Managers Casra is a Canadian organization who is doing a lot of work in the standardization of vocabularies and and semantics concerning the terminology around research information I think that's very important too so I think I have to speed up a bit projects we are engaged in is EU funded programs like projects engage Nikas will tell you later about that in the next presentation your risk net and open air plus and the involvement of your Chris in all of these projects is directed towards let's say the introduction or the implementation of mostly parts of the serif data model outside of Europe we have cooperation with Casra one of the executive director of Casra is also board member of your Chris concerning standardization of vocabularies and we have contacts with Vivo to see whether we could define a joint project in the near future and your Chris board members of course are involved in various projects in their countries and as you may know the UK has been very active last years when it comes to research information because they are changing to a new audit system or a new assessment system ref and in this respect they are thinking about how do you measure for instance impact and impact in the sense of impact on society so not counting numbers of publications or citations but how can you measure for instance impact on a certain policy snowball metrics is another project in the UK where you're Chris was involved and together with Elsevier and there out of that project came a set of benchmarking metrics so that institutions could benchmark their performance against each other among the members were also Oxford and Cambridge so I think this is an important result this is our website I will not go into that well now I talked about the structure the organization of your Chris now what do we do what's our main goal well I phrased it like this and this is a personal a personal like like formulation well the core of our work is to develop find or promote solutions for optimal registration discovery access and presentation of research information in all its aspects and for all possible stakeholders so this is in a nutshell what you're a crisis aiming for so we are not only dealing with publications but with a whole range of aspects of and I will I will in the next few slides come back to that and you're a Chris and this is important is of the opinion that the relationship database technology is a very good instrument to make this happen now when you talk about stakeholders who can that be well there are a lot of them you see them here in the slide we have researchers of course we have decision makers like the politicians but also on the local level university managers etc project managers publishers people from education general public media small and middle-sized enterprises information brokers research organizations and funding organizations all these people need research information want research information and they want it in a certain way okay so you cannot make one package that fits all now a lot of text on these slides because there are also a lot of aspects involved in research information it's not about only about publications it's about the activities the projects it's about the other institutions involved the people involved the researchers the managers the funders the data sets the research is based on our water research has produced the output the equipment that is used the rights of authorization the distribution rights intellectual property rights the semantics very important how do you classify your research when it comes to subject areas or thematic fields the impact I already mentioned that and of course the metrics we all like to play around these days with numbers and then show beautiful graphs and how I our our graphs have reached compared to the other ones and that we have gone up in the ranking of the Shanghai etc so there's always fairly as now real-world situation I would go very quickly through that one but what what are we dealing with in Europe is we are dealing with complex use cases for instance this one here a researcher could be working for various and this is real life and this is a researcher from our university so working for various organizations various departments various institutes at the same time from from these affiliations he or she can be working for various projects with various the subjects etc projects can have a different time frame some starts in July and other in January some has ended already etc and they have different roles in one project again the manager in the other a senior researcher etc etc projects could have different funding sources from the government from funding organizations from the institution itself they can publish in different languages and when you especially when you're dealing with women no offense but a researcher can have different names for instance as you all know researchers do not publish always under the same name sometimes they use like a Jones Jones a ABC Jones etc when women got married sometimes they changed their name entirely are they at the name of their husband now how do you deal with that when you say I want that person for that project etc etc it's not it's a complex thing so what kind of question is various stakeholders what could they ask they could ask for a list of publications but not just a list of public cases not on the screen mr. Jones has published this no that's that's not really it should be specified and this is where this metadata that you're a crisis dealing with come in you see here a few examples of that all the public cases in a certain period from a certain project also the colleagues I mean if you enter the research information domain with a search query you throw you get out the list of publications of a certain researcher it would be very nice if you could have immediately to the surrounding public cases of his colleagues are of the most so all very it comes down to specification it's not about give me the public cases of this or that because then we end up in another Google situation no we have to specify into make this intelligence for that you need metadata contextual metadata as we call it within your occurs so now we say okay relational database technology is a good instrument for that and as a starting point you should have a model and that's what you're a crisis focused upon a lot in the in the last few years to define a sound relational database model that we call Sarif the common European research information format and it's a EU recommendation to member states it has grown in the years now we are in the version 1.5 we think that's a reef is a strong model okay why is that so first of all because it's complete all the things I showed you all these aspects are covered in Sarif we have worked a lot for proper normalization to make it fine granular and to use the possibilities of the of the relational database based technology to its full this means that for instance as an example all repeating attributes are not are all attributes that can repeat are not in the table for instance where the person is but are separated okay for instance an author we don't say this is mr. Jones that is the author is something that we define separately we what we call in linking entities we say okay it's it the author has his own person table and it's linked to publication by means of the publication person link table this is very important then we we separated the semantics all things that to do with meaning we separated them in a separate layer we are for everything we have timestamps okay so when a person you say a person from that day to that day he was in function for that project that's in that role but this role changed so you can always specify your query saying I want only these publications from that person in that period when he was working on the project that in the end got him the Nobel Prize for instance and we have multi-linguality on all relevant fields so this is the model 1.4 ski schematic representation the basic entities are in the middle and you see all these things around corresponding to things we previously so now these are these linking tables so for instance between a person and the result and between a person and a project etc so you see a person can at the same time be an author or a reviewer or whatever and he can be at the same time the coordinator or a manager okay this is endless I mean he can get 10 or 100 different roles this is the nice thing about the model so okay this is a table view of it where you see the illustration of the semantic layer where you have all this but I will not go into that very important when it comes to interoperability is that we have produced a serif version of the serif relational database model and I think this would be a good candidate for the interoperability between for instance open-air applications and grises and I'm glad that yesterday Michael already mentioned this as a priority okay so Chris systems of course serif is meant to be the base for a Chris system currently we have more than 200 Chris's in Europe and these are the bit the major vendors converis pure symplectic and mate is okay now I will go a bit further into the interoperability and I think given these two aspects that Chris is dealing with all these the full specter of the of the research metadata on the one hand and on the other end that it has this fine detailed structure this fine highly normalized fine grained structure we think makes it like a spider in the web for the research information domain why is that because Chris covering all aspects need a lot of data that are already registered elsewhere why should you register them again put in these data in another system while it's in PubMed or in an author in reference manager or in scopus or in a web of science no that's not the way to do you should get it out of these systems automatically put it into your Chris system and the researcher should just have nothing to do with that should be so here you see on the on the left side you see the the input side as I say this for this example I am concentrating on our mate system now so we have the mate is Chris server in the middle and this one concerns the output of the Chris system so as I said what we do is we got automatically by means of web services etc we get things out of PubMed and all these external things scopus web of science researchers also they have a personal dashboard to enter data because it's possible for research to now and then enter a publication from scopus also we got to the citation information okay on the output side we provide the metadata for the university repository of course we provide a lot of presentations in all kind of formats I will show you some of them later and we provide of course also the other formats like linked open data and and the OAI PMH now what can you do with it like this this is not only mate is but this is common use for Chris is for modern Chris is nowadays if you want to see via researcher with all these things one push on the button and you get things like this this is done in our institutions daily okay this is this is no rocket science I mean this is just what a Chris can yeah another one wondering a bit oh yeah I will switch a bit and show you yeah but it's very we started later because actually the most interesting thing yeah here you see for instance our researcher puts input into the repository so the researcher got his publications as they are in mate is the list and then he pushed the button and he is and he is directed to an upload screen where you can upload the full text of the publication the mate is ID is it goes together with that publication oh yeah with the full text and in the night there is a web service now I don't know what happened because I have to do it again so okay this is the schema of the interoperability situation you see there are three entry of data metadata all the metadata goes into the Chris system okay whether it comes automatically through harvesting from things like scopus or pop meta or whatever the secretariat in the middle there they can put information in are the individual researcher all the metadata goes into the Chris system when they push the metadata there the full text they can upload the full text then in the next stage during the night every night the web service get the metadata of the newly put publications in the Chris system automatically into the repository and outputs this full text URL to the mate is system mate is itself can also expose directly oh AI PMH so what the University of Amsterdam for instance is doing they don't they want to throw out so to speak they're these space because they say we don't need it we will we will just use a Chris I mean we'll directly harvest on the Chris it's perfectly possible why should you make this detour here okay so but still in a lot of situations the metadata goes from the Chris in the repository and then the repository expose it as DC and little mods like we do for Narciss etc okay so yes since it's time I think I have to close my presentation we've seen this already okay one thing I wanted to say still is that this is interoperability on let's say the input side where you put metadata into your system and you throw it into the repository or that's even not necessary etc but I think we should also take a look at other forms of interoperability for instance internationally I think the Serif XML would be a good standard for to communicate with Chris systems and there is also other types of interoperability non technical things like interoperability concerning the development of services yesterday Natalia talked about services within the open air but I think we should work together to see we have a I think Chris's and the metadata in Chris's and our experience I mean you've seen these these things you can do with a Chris our experience that can can be an added value to your community I'm sure about that and also on an organizational level what what we see is that in a lot of cases within institutions the Chris and the repository world there are different cultures the one is in the library and the other one is somewhere in the research administration in the central administration they work alongside each other in a lot of cases we have a few very good best good practices in the Netherlands of how you can optimally integrate them to the benefit of both and now I will stop I think because it's time so here are my conclusions you can read them and now I would briefly present Danica there she is yeah Danica she is the task group leader of a task group we have in Eurochris that's called Chris IR and Chris IR is especially dedicated to study and to to deal with problems or possibilities related to the working together of Chris's by the way Danica please could you say a few words so this is also important the last slide here that I think we should also see broader thank you very much I think one of today's breakout groups would be about serif models so we'll have a chance to talk more about it and maybe then you can show the videos and because robots are an article in open air plus newsletter about serif model and interoperability between open air and serif so let's introduce myself my name is Danica Zendulkova I work in Slovak Center of Scientific and Technical Information in Bratislava Slovak Republic I am responsible for Slovak current research information system and this system now starts and it is made based on serif I am a member since 2007 and board member since 2011 our institute is institution that is library scientific library and scientific institute involved in several project also since this year is involved to open air tools institute we provide not only information system Chris but also some bibliographic database and several application we have no time for it but I think it's very interesting also to tell you about my employer but I would like to tell about short what about Chris IR that group that page is on Euro Chris pages and so I would like to say that if you have some Chris application and in the same time you provide and repository this application is connect in several many air you should insert your data to the directory of research information system on that page Chris IR so it will okay I don't think we have a chance maybe no problem so I would like to invite you to task group Chris IR meeting it's not only task group IR meeting but it is part of spring membership meeting 13 and 14 my 2013 so this year in Bonn in Germany and the topic of our Chris IR meeting will be introduction to the Chris IR interconnection so we need to we need to find some nice application based of Chris system and the repository and find some interesting software and technical solution for best practice for another Chris and repository users for help for help them to join this application so it's all for me thank you very much thank you my be webpage no okay thank you very much if you have a burning question I think we can take one question now is there any questions please make up one question to Ed Simmons about you know Chris systems taking a role as a repository as well so this is a very known situation also then my one thing that concerns me is that the Chris system is not so concerned about the whole open access area so and sort of interoperability with initiatives there are in the open access movement about sharing statistical information of usage and you know making sure that there is well some of the initiatives there is what's your opinion yeah this depends well my answer to that is that it depends on local situation and local management because first of all with a Chris system you can connect them and I mean it would be possible to deliver some information what apparently you are missing now that but this depends on on the practice and the policy of local management it's not it's not a technology I'm completely agreeing on that it's more like sort of and discourse that you have with the system and what would you talk about when you have a Chris system this you talk about you know research assessment getting the whole picture of what is the output of the university activities of the university and sometimes the whole open access part of it just yeah it's not there yeah that's true but you know the Chris systems evolved as systems for evaluation and for assessment but I think in the course of time they they have broadened their scope significantly and for instance I can speak from my my myth is case is but again this is this this depends heavily again on the policy of the local management in the university what you do with English if you do it let's say if you have do it from starting from a vision that you want to use the full possibilities of a Chris then you couldn't do a lot with it I mean if I look at the universe technically University and end often they are doing wonderful things when it comes to interoperability between Chris's and and semantic web applications linked open data I mean they have the screens where the data come from the Chris system they expose MS LOD and they do all kind of wonderful mashups with these things others like the Erasmus Institute of Management that's why I'm saying it depends a lot on the on the environment yeah when it comes to to presentation of research groups for instance and also alerting people to open access publications they do it and they do it from within the Chris they for instance one wonderful thing they do is they create they do not create they generate that's the proper word they generate websites web environments for researchers who are virtually what they call virtual networks who are not working together in a formal structure but who are working together a lot in an informal structure these researchers appreciate this very much because they say now we have a window to show ourselves also as a group to broadcast ourselves as a group to the world and it attracts for instance in this special case they have attracted very talented young scientists they even didn't know that we're working in their field and of course to me if my experience within within the Chris within the Chris world I mean it's no problem to make the link with the open access and to provide the information that the open access community need and to provide the statistics certainly that is not a problem I think I think we'll have more time to talk about