 and welcome back to news on we want to continue our discussion now with our panel three threes of charm joining us now CEO and founder of stock solution Melissa Armo attorney and Democratic strategist Ken Altshuler and former obama campaign director easy for me to say and mayoral candidate for Tucker Georgia Robin virus so right before the break up we were trying to dissect a lot of information but you brought this up Ken talking about Trump and prisoner swaps well the new Taliban government is comprised of former Guantanamo Bay detainees for in fact who released in a prisoner swap back in 2014 for Bo Bergdahl interesting enough he was trying to get his conviction overturned about three weeks ago that didn't happen and now they are the leaders of this new government so Robin you know how concerned are you to see these these members now leading the charge again when we still have Americans there and I do think going to Melissa's point I think that is still on the top of minds of many of Americans in this country but Ken says you know ultimately that this is gonna kind of fade into the dust I'm paraphrasing what you're saying but ultimately Americans are focusing more on domestic issues so as someone who is a Democrat who worked to get Obama elected what are your thoughts this there's a lot to unpack here for one thing that the situation in Guantanamo has been going on 15 years this past Monday that these prisoners have been there awaiting trial this is a broken system this is not the fault of the judges nor the prosecutors this is a failed system look at how many presidents have had a hand in this this doesn't even have anything to do with them it's a broken system but I recoil and cringe every time I hear the name Beau Bergdahl because I worked on that as an Army Ranger veteran and the the amount of lives lost trying to recapture that one soldier who wandered off base went rogue is it's it hurts my soul but I even worse than that I am concerned about the estimated 100 to 200 people possibly even more than that that are left behind in Afghanistan that may have been interpreters that may have been Afghans helping us and yes there are some dual citizen persons who are residents of Afghanistan and United States at the same time I'm concerned for their safety and well-being because we don't have military forces right there now to protect them from the military so it's concerning and I have I take great issue with that I interviewed someone who works directly evacuating them it's on my podcast it's www.n American discourse the broadcast is the end of an error check it out it's got great information in there it was very informative well I mean Robin I've got to be honest with you you know I think Americans are more concerned about what's going to happen in the future maybe not three days from now with 9 11 but five months from now or maybe even 12 months from now because these people again were let loose and now again we don't have any military presence in Afghanistan and even though that's what the administration decided this administration and the last administration you can't imagine the fear that is people still have thinking that something else could happen that we have some other type of terrorist plot concerns about that no Americans should be left behind and none of our Afghan allies should be left behind I helped train them to fight and defend themselves so this is a serious issue whether it's 100 200 or 400 or more we've got to get these people home safely because they helped us in the war on terror it's we have a responsibility to them I think the problem is the why did the administration leave on the 31st actually they left the day before the 31st it left the 30th they were gone by August 30th why why did they hold fast to that date why didn't they just wait till I got everybody out it would have been a heck of a lot easier to do that rather than to try to get back and get people in or have the possibility of hostages why did they do that it boggles the mind nobody nobody understands why they left people there give me an explanation why Biden would do that well listen I can answer that question because the Taliban were controlled after May it's you're assuming that they had the freedom to say we're gonna wait till September October I'm not talking about Joe Biden reversing Donald Trump's policy I'm saying that after May 1st the Taliban had control of the country and had control of the deadline and they will not go a longer period of time that's the problem and by the way part of those 5000 prisoners that Donald Trump let out help take over Kabul so they were part and parcel of the takeover of the country so I think that when we talk about seeing Gitmo figures in a hardline Afghani government which is gonna be a disaster that is part of prison exchange and if we want to get people back sometimes this is a necessary evil not make me doesn't make me happy but but it's not Joe Biden's fault that he was between a rock and a hard place on that time deadline but there are still Americans there place because I mean we're the most powerful military in the world what do you mean we didn't have the freedom to do it we yes we do we're the most powerful military in the world period full stop if we wanted to get our people out on the time frame that we said then we did it Biden already changed the time frame Trump said May Biden pushed it back to August Biden could have pushed it back until October November he could have done that we're the most powerful military and country in the world if you want to send in 20,000 troops to do so yes but that's what it taken and you can't do it and America would not have stood for 20,000 troops in September wouldn't have happened Robin it's true we would have to have sent in more troops it would have needed at least 20,000 probably honestly up to 100,000 because of what was happening with proliferation there we the equipment but Robin why wouldn't we get them out beforehand and again woulda coulda shoulda but why didn't we get them out beforehand before we did the withdrawal I mean that's that's what makes sense to everybody right and that is what we negotiated with the Taliban look I took issue with President Trump when he when he invited members of the Taliban to Camp David January 2018 to negotiate this with them because I don't trust the Taliban at their word we gave them our word that we would we would get out by this date it was extended by three months that's not enough time we did I want to give credit though where credit is due Miranda it's important that we recognize that we did evacuate I believe 127,000 people within a couple week period and it was with a massive effort not just with the government and a state department but with volunteer forces they should all be applauded they are heroes and they're not getting it was it wasn't an effort that should excuse me but wasn't an effort that would it shouldn't have happened I think that's the argument that a lot of people are making that it should have happened before the withdrawal it was just so we're running out of time and and we still have Americans there and we're going to continue to follow that but real quickly in the one and a half minutes that we have remaining and I apologize and I'm kind of losing my voice here but I'll get it back you guys are doing great you don't even need me but real quickly we mentioned 9-11 is approaching Melissa 49% of Americans see the US as safer from terrorism than it was before the terrorist attacks in 2001 and that is down from 64% a decade ago how do you feel real quickly I want each of you to respond so 20 seconds to you I think that people are concerned about what happened in the last month I'd say before the last month in the withdrawal in Afghanistan before the 13 people were killed before this happened I think people would have felt safer but now I'm not so sure Ken I actually agree with Melissa I think that the fact that the Taliban are now in control and can shield al-qaeda and more terrorist attacks are possible people feel a little less secure as I do but I think in the end I think our security is much improved so is our intelligence Robin things have changed cybersecurity is the new threat that we all need to be concerned about right now that it has a much greater effect on your day-to-day life but the Americans are still concerned about the Taliban and what happens in Afghanistan yeah we've been talking to a number of people that's been the question we've had up for the last week thank you so much panel for bearing with me and my loss of vocal cords today but I really do appreciate it thanks for having us thanks that was fun all right hopefully when we come back so will my voice coming up we're gonna have an update on your weather with Weather Nation we'll be right back you're watching news on