 We're here at CBS 2016 in Nairobi, Kenya, and I'm very pleased to be joined by Gabriel Solomon, who is the chairman of UKTA, which is the United Kingdom Telecommunications Academy. Gabriel, thank you very much indeed for being with us today. It's a pleasure. Now, I'd like to start off by talking about this particular symposium, it's the Global ICT Capacity Building Symposium. Why is capacity building important? Capacity building is a fundamental driver of our organisation, it's why we exist. We were born out of an ITU resolution, sorry, some 20 years ago, to do just that, to capacity build, take from the UK, and deliver to developing countries. Now there's been a lot of, obviously there's a lot of emphasis here about ICTs and how they enable capacity building, perhaps you could tell us a little bit about what you've learnt here. Sure, well I've learnt that actually the UKTA is on the right track, we are offering our online courses which allow students the flexibility to study at their will, maintain their jobs, enjoy a family life, which is very important to them. So what I've learnt also though is that there is a great digital divide still, and many potential students would not be able to access our courses online. So there is still nevertheless a big telecom and regulatory policy angle to extend access and affordability to the citizens that don't have that at the moment. Is the particular emphasis on connectivity do you think, or the particular challenges are they to do with connectivity? I think there's probably three challenges, one is digital skills, so why would people want to be online in the first place? One is access, so can they connect to a network near them? And the third really is affordability, and this is where I think it's incumbent on the government to decide whether it's for the industry or the state to help subsidise and fund those that perhaps less well off than others. Because in principle of course people who apply to do one of your courses for example, they've got to fund themselves, is that right? They have to fund themselves, however we have been over the last 20 years we've given out some 300, I can't remember the exact number, but many hundreds of scholarships. So for worthy students we're very keen to help them and engage with third parties to support them. Are there any particular countries that are more keen than others to learn? No, I think there is a universal desire to learn. The UKTA works specifically at the moment through the University of Rwanda and the Open University of Tanzania to deliver our two online courses. And those countries have been particularly active in terms of trying to connect their populations? They have done indeed, I think both Kenya and Rwanda have had at a government level and for a long time policies to really ingrain ICTs and connectivity in their country and to leverage that connectivity for the economic benefit of their citizens. Now this is, I know the first time that you've attended this particular symposium, I know that it's a reincarnation or a rebranding of an ITU event. I just wanted to find out what have been your impressions of it? My impressions have been, it's very exciting to see the level of engagement and enthusiasm from multiple different stakeholders. I think there's a common theme that partnership between public, private and academia is key and will be key moving forward to determine or help drive the way content and education and capacity is delivered moving forward. And it's really great to see so much enthusiasm in one place. How would you hope that capacity building through global ICTs, how do you think it will evolve? Well I think at the moment we're at the very early stage of using the internet to deliver capacity building and therefore there is a lot of disparate content around and I think for students to find what they're looking for and find the relevant accreditation that they require, it's not as easy as it could be. And so I think a lot of the discussions today were about how partnerships could evolve to categorize the content if you will or provide an easy to use library so that it's that much easier for students around the world to access what they need. Okay Rosalind, thank you very much indeed. It's an absolute pleasure again. Thank you.