 Effect the taste you like artichoke Yes Delicious food spinach also would take that on pizza bell pepper Greens on the on pizza to be honest. I'm not either but I'm like if I'm getting my rough edge I will do something besides a lover. I I would even take broccoli on pizza. I There actually is a broccoli pizza at a pizza or a gasmica in San Francisco, which is I know I've had it Yeah, it's a good one that place needs to be vacuumed once in a while, but it's really good cockroaches Could Literally looks like it was it's a holdover from the 60s. That's a really forgiving review right like If I could just nitpick a little bit just a little bit maybe not the cockroaches They don't help the situation You might get five. Oh, okay. One important question for you Vlad is this Bulgaria have Turkish delights Like art like as a common thing Not particularly common, but we know of them we have them around them in England too. I mean, I know but You know in Turkey, they're just called delights No, like supposedly there what's the fruit orchard kind brand in the US was if you read the story that comes with the box There's from two brothers from Turkey who started it and sounds curious. I actually don't know what Turkish delights are What are they like? They're like little cubes that are gel and kind of jelly like Yeah, ah, I love it and they just covered in powder sugar. It's sugar. Mm-hmm. Great. All right It's gelled sugar covered in powdered sugar Asians love it because it reminds them of cartilage Cartilage but yet dessert that's another good Oh Goodness. All right, you guys ready to do some daily tech news. I think we are all right Then we shall begin Here we go in three two Kathy Jay Greenwood has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Kathy become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the daily tech news for Monday April 8th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and from a slightly overcast sky in LA County on the show's producer Roger Chang Very excited today to have Vlad Savov senior editor from the verge on the show. Vlad. Thanks for joining us Thank you for having me you are in the midst of testing a bunch of podcasting equipment and We were happy to provide a little a little test bed for you today Yes, this is all for me. Thank you. I Started the show five years ago knowing that this day would come for you That was fantastic We're also to talk to Vlad about his review last week about the Huawei P30 and a little bit about if we're missing out a lot Yeah, especially here in the United States in Canada where we're not going to get it except through the gray market But let's start with a few tech things you should know In an updated S1 filing Pinterest said its IPO price between 15 and 17 dollars per share It will offer 75 million shares raising 1.125 to 1.275 billion dollars and valuing the company between 10 and $11 billion overall Pinterest was last valued at 12.3 billion dollars into 2017 at private funding rounds Android police reports 14 HTC apps have been Unpublished in the last three months some coming and going like the HTC mail app which disappeared came back and appears to be gone again No word from HTC on why the European data protection supervisor is investigating Microsoft's contracts with the EU institutions to see if they comply with the GDPR the Investigation was started as a result of the Netherlands filing eight GDPR violations in office pro plus and office 365 and was concluded in February Microsoft says it plans to modify how it collects user data by April of 2019 in order to come into compliance. All right, let's talk a little bit more about the war between Netflix and Apple It's a war depending on who you ask Yeah, Netflix confirmed it removed airplay support from its iOS app over the last week due to a Technical limitation that's what Netflix said it was a spokesperson told the Verge that this limitation was that the airplay Do doesn't have sufficient digital identifiers for third-party devices and as a result Netflix cannot certify users are getting the best experience when casting to a device Vlad I got to throw this to you. I Mean, what is this actually a legitimate reason? Well, I mean, I'm not the technical person here Well This is kind of it just reminds me of the way to Google users YouTube and the way to Google has used it in the past When Windows phone was a thing Google fought really hard to make sure there was no YouTube app on Windows phone When Amazon's echoed and Started getting displays Google fought really hard to make sure it didn't have proper YouTube playback with the echo show so It's just the way that these companies kind of You know, they have these little skirmishes between them Netflix makes a really big deal out of The the partnerships that he has with You know companies like LG and Sony the TV makers and the way that it recommends them and Apple comes in the middle of that relationship with airplay Yeah, and whatever is happening behind the scenes between Netflix and Apple, you know, it has displays Netflix It this intermediates that relationship with the TV makers and therefore now Netflix is kind of flexing what muscle it has Yeah, Netflix is no longer part of Apple's payment system Netflix has never been part of the television app on iOS or Apple TV This there could be a legitimate technical reason why not having the device IDs would mean that Netflix doesn't know Which particularly tailored stream to send Netflix does a lot of optimization To make sure that their streams look really good on whatever platform But it does strike me as a situation where Netflix is trying to get as much leverage over Apple as possible I Don't buy that they're exactly afraid of Apple getting into the streaming business so much as they just want to make sure that They keep control of their user interface and their customer data and they see Apple reaching for that stuff Yeah, I would agree. Um, there's almost The argument to be made on Netflix is part of like we just couldn't figure out how to give the customer the best user experience is like That's not what's happening with Apple right now, you know That's just not what's happening. So, okay, there's something else going on. Gotcha. You're you know, you're now competitors So no, it's an IKEA announced two speakers under the name Symphonic that will sell in IKEA stores. One is a table lamp with the speaker built in that sells for 179 dollars The other is a bookshelf speaker It's in fact the smallest speaker that Sonos has ever made that sells for 99 bucks and also the cheapest Sonos you can get Both ship in August you can control the speakers with the Sonos app Just like you would from a speaker that you bought directly from Sonos Eventually IKEA smartphone app is also going to integrate these speakers and their music controls Along with smart bulbs and smart blinds from IKEA. Interestingly, you do not get a smart bulb in the table lamp That's something you'd have to buy separately and add yourself But I know Sarah you and I both use Sonos speakers and and you're excited about this ecosystem What do you think about IKEA? I think this is great. I am a Sonos true and true fan I have been for years now and when you have everything running through an app And there are so many things that you can do with the Sonos System and there are others but my you know by my My ecosystem of speaker choice is Sonos. I I love it The fact that IKEA is able to sell these speakers for what what any Sonos fan would say Well, that's a real discount leads me to believe that the speakers are probably not as good in quality as Something about them being almost as good as a Sonos one However, I have two Sonos ones and they I'm I got rid of like floor to ceiling speakers Because I like the Sonos one so much So these are very good speakers anything that's like a little bit, you know You back off from that is still going to be pretty good I I love the idea of a speaker that's supposed to be also a bookshelf. Um, I Mean, hey, if you know it's not a speaker. That's a bookshelf It's a speaker on a bookshelf that could fit in a bookshelf No, but you can put things on top of it as if it is a shelf Where a shelf No, but I think it is one that you can mount in the wall and then yes, literally put things on top of yeah Okay, you guys are blowing my mind now My first thought was like what what if you put a plant on it? Where they've got like a yeah, they've got like a decorative Ikea piece of glass with sticks in it, which again, which is what I can't is great at IKEA is great at the stuff but My immediate reaction is like be careful electronics. Don't get water on it. Think about what you put on the electronics but but uh, but yeah, I think especially with uh, so many folks living in smaller spaces urban atmospheres, whatever The idea of having something that can be a speaker and a nice one But also function as something else is something that we're going to see more and more and very Ikea for sure. Yeah, absolutely Microsoft released the first build of its edge browser that is built on chromium as with google's chrome canary builds of edge Will come daily and developer builds will come weekly Both builds are available now at microsoft edge insider dot com Those builds are for windows 10 64-bit english language And this is the build focused on fundamentals But it does support signing into your microsoft account or as your active directory and a new tab page with three customization options called focused inspirational and informational you can get extensions from the microsoft store or the chrome website Yeah, this is uh, this is if you're excited about the the chrome Ability of edge. This is your first chance to see it in action. I guess Another good microsoft news microsoft confirmed that windows 10's quick removal feature is the default of the fall update Meaning that you can pull out usb drives without having to eject them first Yes And microsoft released its windows 10 may 2019 update to release preview ring testers You could do this for a while, uh, but microsoft never Confirmed that that was okay. And now they're saying yes Go ahead yank those usb drives out with abandon You know, thank you Is is that the biggest mystery in tech the whole safely removed the thing and I'm like why Assumed because the few times I did it and got an error is because it was constantly trying to To read the drive to be able to read it quickly And now technology has caught up operating systems and devices are cut up that you can read these drives quickly enough without having to maintain a constant connection At least that's my guess anyway Right, but for the most part even on macOS, I would always get the error message when I yank it out without going for the process Doesn't do anything. Yeah, I finished with my actions Feedback at daily technician.com if you ever actually lost data from pulling a drive out I've done it once I think it's because sometimes you've lost data once or corrupted the thumb drive Yeah, and I mean that has to do with closing out the file system on you know, like Updating the table on it and then you can eject like generally wouldn't be an issue you could pull it out because it hasn't written anything but It's it's more of a kind of a housekeeping thing to make sure that you know the ledger is you know all there The table is the table and so when you yank it you're not losing stuff Rocketsons messaging app viber announced viber local number subscription service out of closed beta Which lets you get a local phone number for 4.99 a month That you can then give to non-viber users that they can use to call or text you now Viber subscribers can't send replies from that number either by voice or text So that functionality is planned, but right now you can only receive Viber local numbers available right now in the united states and canada with more markets coming soon I remember when skype first had skype in and not skype out It was it was the case for a short period of time I think if i'm remembering that correctly, but I I guess If all you care about is being able to give a phone number to somebody to get you on viber And you don't care about calling them because you have a phone I I don't know vlad sarah either one of you can you guys Well before the show tom I asked you is this like a feature that you would use and you said yeah With skype actually it is a feature that I used all the time You know sometimes people just don't have the application or are confused or you know You need something to happen fast and giving somebody a phone number makes sense works well doesn't really Matter to them what it looks like on your end So, you know when you think of it that way Yeah, this is a great feature to have I have never used anything like this. Vlad. I don't know about you Well, I think that might be more of an issue for you guys in the states Uh, because when I was there for CES in january, I also came back For the nam show, which is a big audio show in uh, la I had a us sim card for a month and the Two weeks that I was there. I was just bombarded with text messages, you know spam chains and Random robocalls and all of this other stuff And I was like, so this is why people care so much about robocalls and spam calls and everything else This doesn't happen for me. Oh Like over here in your life, you're leading right now, right? So so I am honestly Well, first of all, I just have never used viber. I don't advise anybody to use viber Uh, the only people I know who use viber are my mother's closest friends And I'm desperately trying to get them on to using telegram or something more modern A little more secure. Yeah Yeah But yeah, I can see the utility of that if I want to be in touch with somebody and I don't want them to necessarily have my phone number Uh, if it's going to be like a one-off interaction with somebody. Yeah, it makes sense I don't know that I mean if paying a five dollar a month subscription probably doesn't make that much sense Yeah, that's that's where it starts to hang up for me is is you have to want I I know people in the middle east. In fact, I have a friend in Saudi Arabia who is a big user of viber Um, and and maybe this would be useful for him to give to grandparents or or something who you just don't Use viber would be able to contact him that way. I don't know Interested to hear more about that from people out there in the audience as well I mean, I should I should bring up another point Which is that if you look at all the services that are floating about the moment Uh, netflix, Spotify apple news plus, etc amazon prime It's really easy for you to just stack up a massive build just of subscriptions. Seriously. Yeah, you got to be careful I've got to make sure to cancel my news plus trial subscription before it ends because I really don't need to be paying for that Yeah, let's talk about music. Shall we montero hill aka Lil Nas x which you may have heard of him You may have not but kind of a big deal as of late has a hit song with the old town road and credit Tiktok with at least part of his success. He told time magazine quote I promoted the song as a meme for months until it caught on to tiktok and became way bigger Lil Nas x also has a meme account on twitter and put out some potentially funny lines and the song on purpose Kind of drumming up interest He even uploaded the song to tiktok audio's database so people could use it for free in remixes In fact, Lil Nas x said that he thought maybe he should have been paying tiktok since they promoted the song Don't ever do that Lil Nas, but you know, I get what he's saying That has turned into 65 million streams on his Spotify page Spotify does pay him by the way. So there is some money being made here The verges julia alexander points to ebsu factos dissolve and joji's slow dancing in the dark Which also became trends after tapping into memes like the microwave challenge This this is it fascinates me in two ways one The fact that Knowing memes running a twitter meme account became a source of song lyrics because you want to write a song that will be popular And so yeah The funny lines are to put in that song because everybody else who's playing red dead redemption 2 is going to think these are great as well and then For those that just like to know what the hot thing is even if they're not using it tiktok is becoming a hit maker it feels like Well, it's so strange I mean going back to like the lyrics thing When you think about you know people saying oh that song is just very formulaic that music producer always does the same thing But it's like a you know a catchy thing that works with people and like there's an earworm aspect to it. This is It's the same idea, but on such a Social network Yeah, like you know, you know post millennial level that I don't know lads I don't know how much you keep up on this stuff, but it is fascinating to me First of all the memes are moving way too fast for me to keep up Like it is literally a full-time job. You mentioned Julia Alexander and our team that that's her job is to keep up with that stuff So it's difficult to keep up. It's nice when somebody just like in the case of this song just Condenses all of it into one thing Where it's it's just a meme singularity and then you can just kind of start Peeling away the layers of memeness in it because my understanding is in fact that The music the original music for the song Was sampled from someone else, but it was some dutch kid who did the sampling and remixed it and then little now's ex licensed that from the dutch kid and then like you guys say he collected the lyrics from everywhere and then there was the actual remix of the song with billy billy ray cyrus Yeah, and everybody had like a meltdown Because they kicked him off the country charts and billy ray cyrus is like that's not right The song should be on the country charts. So he went in and said i'll record some lines for you That was that's pretty great too. And and the intense thing is that I do not know a single person who doesn't love that song I include myself in that it's an amazing song Roger listened to it before right before the show and he was like Uh, not my cup of tea, but I'm sure it it it goes with everyone else. Give it a few more listens. I don't hate it If you like baby shark, you're gonna love this all right Wow, okay I have to wrap my head around that one in the meantime folks. Uh, the takeaway here is that tiktok Obviously is is the hip maker. It used to be my space and then it was soundcloud. No, it's tiktok Uh, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines all right, uh blood uh, you reviewed the huawei p 30 and p 30 pro uh last week for the verge and Wanted to share some of your insights with us today. Let's start off I mean Every review I've read including yours talks about how the photography the camera is the thing that differentiates this phone, right? Yes, uh, I should technically can mention my reviews going live tomorrow What you read last week was just me Uh gushing uncontrollably about the camera like I had to write something specifically about the camera Uh, good. Good point. Nice and early. Okay. So this these were your impressions last week and your full review coming out tomorrow Good point. Yes. I I literally just finished it before coming here for the podcast. So I feel really accomplished today All right, so give us some insight. What are we going to hear in this review tomorrow? well It's it's it's wild because huawei has done a whole bunch of things which are just best in class So first of all, it puts zoom into the phone. Uh, it has a five x optical zoom which has a new periscope construction It's really technical As as I say, you can read the review tomorrow and you can get into the details of it But it's really good. It's the best zoom camera. We've had in a phone ever Uh, you can get a so-called hybrid zoom up to 10x Um, which is almost lossless. It's just a little loss of sharpness But I've taken photos at up to 32x and you can actually find this whole twitter thread that I've done with samples from the camera Um, and they're usable usable images at 32 times zoom Which is ridiculous Uh, even even for just a regular camera. That's unconventional and unusual Then you have the night performance, which uh, google's night side was the revolutionary step we had last year and it was A couple of steps ahead of apple and samsung and everybody else and now koala has beaten that by another couple of steps It's it's just it's it's a chasm like I i've been reviewing smartphones for years and years and Usually the differences especially on the camera front because companies are so competitive are really slight And you can say well, it's a matter of preference. It's a matter of taste whatever what do you prefer apple or samsung? Now it's literally the best low-light camera in the world koala p30 pro and it's not even close And that is I mean we talk a lot about and and i'm not going to get into foldables right now But we talk a lot about the form factor and bezels and and differentiators But the camera does tell me if you agree the camera seems to be the place that companies are Making significant innovations and differentiations between their phones Yes, but here's the funny thing If you uh in the us as you guys are and you just look at what's on the store shelves You won't notice that because apple and samsung the two companies selling the most smartphones in the world are strangely Almost complacent about the camera. I really expected samsung over the past two or three years hasn't made Major differences major improvements and I really thought they're saving some something up for the galaxy s10 And it was kind of again incremental Um apple has been redesigning since the iphone x which I refused to call the iphone 10 It had a major physical redesign there it did some slight updates with the Access and Again, nothing's really happening there. But if you look outside, especially from chinese manufacturers, they're improving in leaps and bounds So hawai's periscope camera, uh, oppo demonstrated a prototype of the same technology So they're going to have a smartphone with the same tech by june of this year And knowing that oppo and one plus are basically sister companies We can probably anticipate one plus to have something similar in terms of zoom um, and i'm honestly really shocked because The night performance on hawai's camera Even I can't really explain all of it and it takes so much in terms of ai processing and mathematics and algorithms And that's something that chinese companies hadn't previously shown themselves to be strong at they were strong in hardware But now they're also strong in processing, which is you know, pretty daunting for american companies who seem to be dragging their feet Well, and that that's the question by the way I want to point out to people and flood said this the periscope you you can find out more about the technical aspects of it In his review, but it's not the same as the pop-up if you're thinking The the camera that pops up off the top, uh, like we've seen I think uh from vivo, uh, that's that's not this This is the internals right that are they're working like a periscope but the question is Are the us phone companies being left behind or are they making the choice That camera doesn't differentiate as much as it should and people will continue to buy their phones anyway In other words, is this going to eventually eat away at their at their sales or are they making the right call? Hey, you know, we could spend a lot of time investing on this, but it doesn't seem to move the needle Well, it might not even be eventually it might have happened already because uh in this january you had both samsung and apple reporting Uh slowing sales apple stopped reporting number of iphone sales and you stop reporting numbers when they stop being impressive Right in your financial reports. Uh, in fact samsung very recently reported a massive slash in profits Uh overall for the company I think um I think those those things are starting to affect them already and I think that will increase going forward I think by the end of the year as I say we'll have so many cameras with zoom capabilities in them The rumor okay fair enough. Let's be let's be fair to apple the rumor with apple is that the next iPhone will have a triple Lens camera and it will probably have some sort of similar zoom functionality in it. Um But in general you can make the argument that small differences in image quality might not make the difference They might not push the needle, right? But what huawei has done is really smart because it isn't just improving camera camera performance It's doing it in discrete ways. So it's saying you know that photo which would have been black When you took a with the iphone like a good example that huawei gives is taking a photo of your baby at night Right, you can't use the flash because you wake it up But you still want to be a creepy parent and take a photo of your kid sleeping, right? So and in the shoulder sample with the iphone and it's blackness and the showed one with the samsung galaxy s10 And it's just an outline and then with a huawei p30 pro it looks like the afternoon And it's super impressive. So that's one discrete feature You get nighttime photography and then you get well, you know that far away playing or boats or whatever else Or the statue of liberty that your wide-angle phone can't really do much with or now you have 10x zoom And it actually works So these are discrete features into the camera and they're really easy to sell Like I can give this explanation to my aunt who's still using anokia from 1997 right and she'd be like, okay, I get that Yeah, yeah, she still wouldn't use a smartphone, but she will still understand What the compelling new feature is Well, and you know, you could make a lot of discounts of samsung's profits are going down as much because of a glut in in sensors and ram As it is because of slowing mobile phone sales You can say that the increase in worldwide market share from a lot of the chinese companies Has to do with the the fact that they have less expensive and mid market phones That that are taking some market share that way while while apple and samsung focus more on the top end Certainly in apple's case you can say that you can say that but then the cons of argument is that the p30 pro has outstripped pre-orders for the p20 pro by A really large margin. I can't remember without having the north american market, right Exactly that pre-order with a big chunk of the planet. I mean All they really have is me tweeting about their camera and they're and they're already selling out What else do you need? Well, apparently that's the secret of the success that the carriers need to pay attention to is, you know Get get flawed to be impressed by your by your phone It helps it helps. Yeah, it swings along Well, certainly the secret to our success is everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on others at daily tech news show dot reddit.com If you hang out on facebook go to our group facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Sikani shares a preview of his latest column on this is a good one passenger id issues with transportation network companies Hello, this is sikani, right? 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I can see the sears tower So I guess he's pretty close and the best internet that I can get is three megabits per second dsl Which is usually more like 1.5. I just found a wireless isp that can cover me for 90 dollars I assume he means per month for five megabits per second even on five g e I only get four. This isn't the boonies either yearly I call comcast to see if they've gotten close to my house Some days I can see an expedited hotspot show up in settings when looking for wi-fi So it can't be that far away it took four calls and three service tickets to finally get an answer The rep said great news. It says we can offer you internet now. It looked like it would cost um hold on 9300 dollars to extend the wires on the telephone poles to you I countered with $1,000 and signed me up today. They didn't bite So richard robert says in conclusion Yes, please cover me and internet and let me bask in the glory of the elusive beast called a high speed internet Uh, then wilton wrote in and said over the last several years There's been a lot of things said about how much advertisers know about us But I have the opposite problem My normal schedule takes me to mexico about five months a year takes about two or three months before the advertisements switch to spanish The real issue is on my return. It takes about the same amount of time to switch back I'm not using a vpn. So all they need to do is check my ip address I wish they cared enough to check my location Lociento wilton Lociento indeed also gross yes to blad Savov for being with us today blad. It was so nice to have you let folks know where they can keep up with all of your work Well, there's the first.com a website on the internet and twitter.com slash blad savov and we've got your Review of huawei p 30 is coming out on the verge tomorrow. Is that right? And a nice video and everything and you've already got one post. I know about uh podcaster gear. I'm sure there's more to come Yeah, I I am gonna be addicted to it podcasting gear reasons to start a podcast reasons to quit a podcast reasons Why a podcast might not be for you? it's a really fascinating area of investigation Excellent excellent. 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I know you told us before we started going live with tell folks which mic you're using right now Okay, so this is the apogee hype mic And it's just a regular usb. They come with free cables in their usb c usba and lightning Um, and it's really designed for portable and mobile use it has a tripod which just collapses to a hand grip So you could literally walk around and walk and talk with it Um, and it's kind of it's kind of hampered my testing because I really like it and now i'm like why bother with anything else You've fallen in love with the first mic you tried But that I mean that says a lot because that is a huge part of the whole process You know if you if you're not sounding good then A lot of the other stuff that you try to make sound good is is for naught. So Yeah, and um, I mean, I noticed you guys using x alarm microphones Um, and I've got some here from road and again, they're really good But it's just the difference in size And weight and the setup time I often recommend to people that they get a sure sm 50 Uh and an xlr adapter because if they're if they want to grow Having that system allows them to swap out mics and get better mics as they they go along But if they're doing a lot of travel like you're saying That isn't the most convenient way to travel Um, so that's that's definitely something you need to consider I think Yeah, I I helped a friend launch a podcast Recently as of last week and you know, she was like your mic sounds better than mine I want your mic and I was like, okay. Well, it's a high lpr 40 Get online But then you're like gonna have to get a preamp and then you're gonna figure out how to put that in your computer And there's a little bit of not that I mean it's not rocket science But there is a learning curve involved and I think you know, a lot of people kind of go like Uh What whatever you're talking about is even though it's it's really just a matter of connecting a few things it it It scares a lot of people off of what would be nice audio otherwise and this is not very portable either And that's the thing I go to all of these events and that's the times when I have all the most interesting things to report Um, there's a time when the verge cast people who never seem to invite me they invite me less often than you guys um Like, okay fine. We'll have land in the podcast um And it's terrible because then I have to make do with like earphone microphones or my laptop or whatever else and And and and then you tell the difference pretty well because you have everybody in the studio with really nice microphones And then as you just kind of Yeah, that's bouncing. I'm calling from Berlin guys. Yeah, this should be It shouldn't sound like I'm coming from south of chicago or whatever So All right DSL is faster than that My sister Five hours south of chicago in southern illinois has better bandwidth than that out in the country. Like I don't know what's going on there Yeah, um, but his story. I mean I've you hear these stories where someone's like hold on this shouldn't be so hard Like why why why am I you know dealing with these slow speeds? But Is he in indiana? Maybe He said he's 25 minutes south of chicago. Yeah, and if you if you go kind of south east as the crew flies But um, I don't know Calumet city, maybe I don't know Well, the thing the thing most of us forget about your country is just how freaking huge it is It's pretty big. Yeah It's big. That's a good point although Because it's just uh, like when I think about europe, um, like my village home village in bogaria um, I can get a fiber 50 meg symmetrical line Which is, you know, really decent um in a freaking village and it's just really Not something I would expect but then bogaria has to take care of just bogaria Right, and then but finland only has to cover finland Whereas the us has to take care of la. Why can't la take care of la? Maybe it wouldn't be great country wide, but yeah I don't know but but the person we just had as an example. He was outside of the city Yeah, he was outside of chicago that the rural areas get And and the other thing is you don't necessarily have somebody that you know You can yell at with those situations whereas in a smaller country you do I mean, yeah, yell at con guys that nothing will change If you can see the tower on clear day, he's not that far. He should be within the infusion No But no, the Vlad you make a funny point. I was actually talking to a friend of mine Who lives on the east coast over the weekend and uh Was visiting california and we were kind of on a hike and I was like I mean the idea that you would go to another state within I don't know an hour of driving is crazy to me because in california We're like we're just like four to five hours from everyone and actually I'm closer to mexico than anybody at this point You know that was the only state you can really get to from this end. Yeah You just get you but but when you're in a smaller state, it's like, I mean, okay There are you know state laws actually make a lot more sense to to like be brushed up on them and how they differ Yeah, instead of living on your little island driving Go into st. Louis, Missouri all the time because that's where my mom was born Yeah, I drove her from new jersey up to uh, sale in massachusetts and I remember Suddenly kind of realizing what everyone meant when they said certain colloquial phrases for different drivers from different states Because you would suddenly see people with certain license plates cut in front of you another one driving Like you literally passed four states in the Yeah, we all said illinois drivers or missouri drivers depending on which state you were from you always called the other one the bad No, no one one plate was very I've told the story before but i'll tell it again because it's one of the most mind-blowing things i've ever done in my entire life Going from penn station to whatever boltamores main train station is whatever it's called I went through five states and two hours five Yeah, because they're kind of new york pennsylvania delaware new jersey and maryland Wow, it was best day of my life And you can't get out and pump gas by yourself in new jersey. You have to have someone pump it for you Oh Like origan like the train station in baltimore is also called pennsylvania station. Is it? Well, I've been there I was I was I was I was losing my mind on the like train like we're in and that we're in our third state everybody and they were like californian Hate you. Yeah, we're just commuting By the way, uh, people have been voting on titles at uh showbot dot chat realm dot net Uh, we did use the term yank in regards to usb and you've had a lot of fun with that We're not going to use any of those titles But they are appreciated I was thinking perhaps tiktok. You don't stop I love that one. That's a good one Uh, do you have an alternate favorite? Ah, okay. Um Roger may be between this one. No. No. No. I just need one. No. No. He was he's trying different titles on good day All right I'm looking i'm looking sarah thinks roger would love tiktok roger disagrees That's kind of long, but I guess for gdi of my word Did I say that? How about I said he might like the song True fact. Yeah, sure. Where's that? There you go. Yeah, I just made it up. Oh, okay True facts about true facts. That's saying no, they're good Dps by accident and people like well, there were never any bulgarian facts in here. What are you doing? Do uh does bulgari have its own like vampire or kind of supernatural? Um, mythologies like stuff like that. No, that was my question. Where was I was like, no door to door sales. Tell him. He's trying to figure out how to answer this question Oh, what do you mean? Is it one of those secrets you can't reveal to outsiders? Yes, non-romania He's like I cannot divulge You guys know, um, you must have watched the joan wick movies Yeah, uh, you know the baba yaga. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Right. Well, we have that in bulgaria and that's um That's the it's kind of Universal tale about Old ugly scary witch lady who steals kids Right, but she lives in a house that's on a giant chicken foot or something, right? Yeah, I mean it depends people kind of freestyle the story But she rides around and order the children. What does she get out of it? Just to be meaning see that's a part of the narrative that's really not resolved sufficiently It's just the child is naughty. She steals it. I guess I guess again, there's a lot of um Creative leeway for grandparents telling that story, right? Yeah, my grandparents told it that she basically Ease the kids, you know, she likes to behave or the witch for motivation for telling the story is to get the kid to behave So the motivations don't really matter. Yeah the details are like stealing fear. I think you don't want the witch to get you It's one of those things where self-preservation takes over your skepticism and you're just like I'm like, what is motivation? What does she want with these kids? Is she hungry? What's happening? I'm finding some continuity errors and some of these I just know that I just know the one with the young girl Who like collects like she has like gets a loaf of bread has a thing of oil And then apple or something. She gets a sesame street a loaf of bread a container of milk and a stick of butter No, no, there's an oil and like the like this whole thing like how she kind of Passes the witches the bobby. I guess like these kind of like traps that she set out In order to get like a yarn a needle or something From her for her mother to say someone's life. I don't I don't remember I read it when I was in grade school. There's lots of different versions. I don't know this one It's pretty cool. I I still like the fact that the house is on a chicken leg It made quite an impression on you as a young child. I thought that was cool I didn't think like normally you would just have a building or house and it would be You know like on the ground and then you got this thing that has a chicken leg at the bottom of it Pretty dope It is it is very creative. Yeah. Yeah When scaring children, it's you know, it's a good detail to have when I was that age in grade school I love mythology like I read like all the Arthurian. I read all the Greek Stuff and I was just like totally into it because it was all wacky Vlad, here's a question for you because I'm on a Game of Thrones kick. I'm like binging everything Has there been any Game of Thrones Shooting that happened in Bulgaria because I know they've they've been in the Baltics When you when you say shooting I was actually thinking about violence because How many people has Arya killed in Bulgaria? Like literally or just for acting no, I I think I feel like there has been Yeah, I don't think that has been there's been Um, I want to say there's been plenty around Ireland And Had all of the scenes with King's Landing And every time every time I'm reminded that they shot those in Croatia I'm like, this is so close. Why have I not gone on holiday there? You know, just just to like take a walk around the place. The other thing is that Croatians are again culturally very similar to us Bulgarians There's overlapping language and so on so I'm confident that going there would be a blast and it's just not finding the time to go and like explore those things So I love that actually I really love also the Lord of the Rings movies And I think they've aged really well. I never appreciated them as much when they actually happened But now that I look back And now to have had to hobbit movies to show us how you can mishandle that material, right? Um, but a lot of rings movies when they go out, you know to ride and have battles and everything else Is such an advert for New Zealand? Yeah, yeah, okay, like I just want to go to that part of New Zealand just kind of Well, and people go there to like, you know, let's see it It's it's real To New Zealand right before return of the king came out So we had seen two movies and we were just driving around we're like, we're in middle earth Like this that's what it looks like. It was crazy. Yeah, I when my flight to Australia was Stopped over in Auckland. There was just a bunch of guys with like Lord of the Rings like jack like crew jackets Just sitting in the The airport like it was huge and they were still Shooting and doing a bunch of other stuff. What's great is at the time New Zealand wasn't as widely exposed So when you watch the movie none of the landscapes felt familiar like oh, I saw that in another movie or anything like that So it really it was really awesome. 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