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I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go baby Yep, Charlamagne the God Andrew show y'all the brilliant idiots podcast of today's episode is brought to you by square space from websites and Online stores the marketing tools and analytics square spaces the all-in-one platform to build a beautiful online presence and run your business There are no hidden fees of price hikes and all websites are optimized for mobile And it's so simple start with a design template and use dragon drop tools to make it your own head to square space comm slash idiot For a free trial and when you're ready to launch use the offer code idiot to save 10% off your first purchase Let's start the show our guest today is a legendary Journalist and media personality has interviewed the likes of boosty the little baby Nick Cannon to Orlando Brown DC young fly the soldier boy he started off his career as a DJ has directed Critically acclaimed documentaries like ghost ride the whip has appeared on episodes of loving hip-hop New York and Atlanta and his release The rap phenomenon mixtape series on Vlad TV comm He is best known for his interviews on his YouTube channel Vlad TV, which is earned over for what he disrespected you Vlad They got a number of data. I know that's not right. They got 1 million well over 5 million subscribers Ladies and gentlemen DJ Vlad is here. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's happening? How y'all feeling man? Well, we're reuniting for the first time the first time three of us have been in a room together probably like five years That's so crazy. You don't feel like that. I guess because of what modern technology with the zooms and the phone calls And yeah, I think social media makes you feel closer than you actually are As long as you like seeing people pop up. You're like, okay. They're still alive like everything. Yeah I don't know. I mean, did we all do a pod before I don't even remember that. No, no Yeah, I've done with you visually. Yeah, but I don't think we've all gotten a room together Never been never been my first time. Wow. Yeah, I've done breakfast up a bunch of times Yeah, but yeah first time. Well, happy to have you man. Thank you for having happy to have you man Um, how was everybody's week good? Good. I'm ready to go. I got my honeymoon bro tomorrow. I'm going out by the time this comes out I'm in Italy, baby By the way, next week when you won't be here might as well let y'all know that now because show to being Italy for his honeymoon I'll be out of the country as well. Where you going? I don't like to say, but I'll be Vacation I'm going for work, but oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's for work. It's for it's for work, but I'll be I'll be gone for like color I'll be gone all next week, but I'm probably dirty as fuck man. Why ain't washing like two days. Why not? I took a shower last night. First of all, I would like to say what's your airline of choice? Delta baby. I love jet blue Delta is my number two Delta I say this with the utmost respect because I have two upcoming Delta flights that I know of for the rest of the year speak on it Y'all suck speak on it. What happened Delta is moving like spirit airlines. What happened? But why what happened? Because they just cancel your flights for no reason. Oh, don't give you no explanation Watch so ever so I was in Dallas this weekend That that leg of the triple spine made it to Dallas Celebrated the 65th birthday of the good brother Bishop TD Jakes. Oh, it was phenomenal So, you know, he had a birthday celebration on Saturday We went to church service on Sunday four o'clock. You post the fly to Dallas get to the airport Flight is delayed gets laid again. Then they just cancel No reason for the cancellation. No nothing was the flight full. This is my little conspiracy theory with with flights I don't know if the flight was full or not. I think they're Canceling flights that are empty so they don't have to pay For the gas. Yeah. Oh They told us it was a mechanical issue. They said with the air condition They delayed it twice open a window Then they was like, yo, we're gonna put you on American because I guess they like sister airlines or whatever whatever So I took an air American flight in the Burbank. Hmm. Got the Burbank didn't have no luggage. No like Didn't have the luggage But it didn't get the luggage back till last night. You got back to the airport. What were you gonna do without the same sweatsuit over The only reason I care because I had to shoot something on Monday. Can I have my clothes with me? Oh You know, they provided some wardrobe, but you're right. I'm gonna win the same sweatsuit since Friday That's right. You took the red eye to be here now. Yeah That's I mean last but Delta step it up, bro We don't expect that from y'all shout out to Delta. You guys are great Can't you guys not right now? They're going through something. They're going through some challenge You guys are gonna get a great by tomorrow For my honeymoon, so By the way, you better pray Come on now Getting a flight scan today was a birthday weekend and shit like that, but why are we putting this energy out? I'm just saying it's possible. What are you doing right now? Remember you had something on your lip and everybody's gonna laugh at you and I said hey take that off your lip because I cared about you and now You're putting all this energy out like I'm gonna be fucked up. I just want Delta to do better. That's all me too Yeah, y'all not spirit airlines. Okay. You want to know something about here? This is This is the wild about airlines And this is coming from me, so it's kind of rare, but something I think is pretty sexist Talk to me The flight attendants have to wear heels Really isn't that walking up and down the plane now once they're on the plane during service They can switch into like a flat like as part of their job They have to wear a heel and the whole point of a heel is to like Accentuate the muscles in your legs and like stick out your ass and completely sexualize you I know it's crazy that I'm making this statement about Delta like I you know, but I just feel like of all the things We could call sexist and stuff like mandating that your female employees only have to show up in heels That's not weird. I mean, I didn't know that's that's feeding into the sexes Let's do it is stereotype. I guess that shit is long gone, bro. Yeah Yo, that shit is a long gone. I haven't seen a female stewardess in forever, dude I haven't looked it's all guys. It is all That's not true. Oh, y'all don't you don't fly first class y'all don't fly first class Usually the ladies in the back Not jet blue jet blue got a lot of ladies That's my air line of choice jet blue mint is the shit No, it's great You got you know, if you're broke and you're trying to look rich jet blue is the shit. No, you crazy jet blue most Is the best New York to LA right that you can get The lie flat the food is crazy Yeah, the lie flat exactly lie flat, but also it's the food they have like legit Delta might have better food not then in my opinion not then jet blue, okay That blue gives you that menu and you think you have all these choices Yeah, Delta will come to you with a piece of paper Yeah, they'd be like Like we didn't want the same fucking thing I thought that was weird so they came to me and my wife. They was like, yeah, we have these two options Well, actually, we only have one left for this and one left for that So can we was both like well, we want this they was like well We only have one of this and one that you knew how many of us we're gonna be on this flight Yeah, man. Yeah, I just want Delta to get it together. That's all I'm saying. That's it But they will by Wednesday. I pray so I hope they get it. I gotta fly Delta again next week Second no cuz they said it was Americans fault They told me it was America's fault, but I'm like American didn't cancel the flights y'all did They just shrugged their shoulders like that's what that's the spirit out line Is it annoying when people just like blame America for everything, you know, yeah, no Americans They should get a lot of blame Got a proud Russian right here proud Russian. Yeah, I mean He's not for Russia If you were born there you were not born in Russia, well, I was born in the Ukraine I was born in Kiev That's what he's saying at the time was the USSR it was a capital Right one point. Yeah, yeah for Moscow. Yeah, kid was actually got a fake capital. They just invented that yeah But back in it, but that's why Ukraine is important, right? He is Kiev. Yeah, it's like used to be the capital of Russia mother Russia like that's where at all Yeah, when I was born there It was part of Russia technically it was the USSR So I've always said I was Russian years later became independent it became Ukraine, but it's like You know, I never considered myself Ukrainian necessarily because it was part of Russia at the time Yeah, you're ethnically Russian like most people in Ukraine are exactly what it's not cool to represent Ukraine or something I mean, I do represent Ukraine now There's a Ukrainian flag like in my Twitter bio and stuff like that. I support the war in Ukraine But at the time, you know, I'm saying like let's just say you've been you know America in your whole life and at one point whatever state you grew up in became Part of Jamaica or something. You know, you still consider yourself American that Jamaican even though technically South Carolina was part of Jamaica now Like you know, I'm saying it's kind of like that. It's a weird situation and you actually lived there. All right. I was born I was five years old when I moved. Have you been back to Ukraine? Not to Ukraine. I've been back to Moscow, St. Petersburg Oh, yeah, probably yeah, probably can't go back anymore. Yeah said a few things Oh, that probably doesn't like yet a I had a article in Variety magazine where they started out with my comments about what I thought about the Ukraine and Russia So I probably really I probably don't want to go back to Russia anytime soon But what do you think about the Ukraine and Russian war? I mean, is it still it's still a war, right? Yeah, you can't tell because the media the media just they moved on to something Oh, exactly. Monkey pox. Monkey pox. They moved on to like five different things. Yeah It's fucked up. Yeah, it's Russia trying to take back something that isn't theirs anymore Yep, yeah, he finally admitted that last week. He was like, yo, it's all about the land Yeah, of course it is they about to come for Sweden to they said something about that you think so I don't know. He'd like mentioned something, right? Get them remember they locked out of Sweden for a month. Jesus Christ, you know, Sweden joined NATO I think and that's that's what they're trying to they're trying. Yeah, so that's what Russia's like You got family that still not that I know all right everyone that I knew Moved out of Russia eventually or out of Ukraine eventually, you know, some some mo some of us moved to America a few like my My father's sister's family moved like I think Germany and then I don't know anyone who's still there So you went from Ukraine to Oakland? I went from Ukraine to to Massachusetts To the Bay Area and that's pretty much what grew up and then you know Well, you got to go back to the Ukraine man when this war is over Ukraine is fire. Yeah, you've been there. Yeah Oh, yeah is fucking dope really one of the cities I've ever been to really unbelievable You should be on a go to war with cool cities son. I We were there when it was a war Huh? There was another war happening like the eastern part of the country. This is back I think when they were like annexing maybe Crimean, yeah, I think I think that's that's was it and like the people was just there I guess they're accustomed to conflict because people were going out there partying they're eating dinner restaurants I'm like that. I mean it was amazing. That's when I went with Jamil. You know my boy Jamil Yeah, they thought he was will I am he was just stopping him in the street. I got the feeling Tonight going to be a good night It was amazing brother, just there's no black people there and then the one guy shows up I've got the feeling. Oh, there's no black people in Ukraine Nah, wow That's the whole thing of like what people are like When you think of like racism It's like my family came from a place. So there were just no black people, you know, I'm saying like once they got to America that really but no like Probably very few Asian people. No Spanish, you know Hispanic people at all like it was really just all just white You know I'm saying so it's a very You know different kind of thing, you know, I mean in terms of like how I grew up It wasn't like an American white family. It was like an immigrant white family What'd you think when you first saw black people? Well, I was five. So I grew up with you know The first school I went to a massive like I lived in Springfield in Massachusetts. Oh, okay So that's like, you know, there's a large black population. So it was like boom like from kindergarten or something So when did you ask your question that they asked on brown sugar Vlad TV? When did they? When did you first fall in love with him? I'm elementary school fifth grade Breakdancing had just become a National phenomena, you know the New York City breakers The movie started come out break in Beach Street and it was just like, you know You couldn't really buy there's no hip-hop on the radio. You'd have to go to like warehouse records and buy a Hip-hop record and hope that it was good. You know I'm saying and I just started You know, I started breakdancing listen hip-hop at that time and it was like it was just a ride I never go man. You can break dance. I mean like before I could you know My current age Dude, you can't hit a little one right now back. Do you want to battle we could battle battle you right now That's the thing though, but I think that this generation doesn't Understand your hip-hop pedigree. You know what I mean? Like they think you're somebody who just started doing You know Vlad TV and that's where it started for you in this. Yeah, I mean, but I didn't even know about the breakdancing thing but I remember Back in like the early 2000s some of my first national looks as a personality was on those beef The beef the beef the DVDs you would be the mix tapes. Mm-hmm essentially I put you and Buffy the body arguing with each other on the radio. Mm-hmm on one of the beef DVDs And I remember we talked on the phone. Yeah a lot of time because that was big Like you know, you I think that was before the internet. So you might have had like all hip-hop You might have had like yeah, that's the way chase. So DVDs were everything the mix tapes were everything so to get a prominent look on a national mix tape like that was like huge You know, and that's that's not first started hearing about Vlad TV Did not you know DJ Vlad DJ Vlad at the time then I started paying attention and it was like, you know You did the documentaries on Oakland with about Mac Dre who I never even I never even know about Mac Gray goes right the whip. Yeah, the high-speed hyper moving documentary that they did American gangster on Mac Dre the romper in gang. Yep. Oh, yeah So I mean it's stuff like that that I feel like the people knew they wouldn't Criticize you so harsh. Well, and I've always like And you could talk to anyone about this in our space like I've always seen up-and-coming talent and I've always embraced them You know, I mean like like I said like when I heard you I'm like Oh, Charlemagne's dope. I never heard about them before I'm gonna put them on this mix tape Adam 22 academics Sean cotton, you know from a state cheese TV like all these guys I reached out to him early put him on my platform and was like You know, I mean because when I was coming up, I just got hated on like, you know I mean source wasn't fucking with me double XL wasn't fucking me hot 97 You know, like none of the radio stations or anything. We're trying to really, you know I mean, what do you mean when you first started doing the mix tape? Well, just period, you know, whether mix tapes or when I started doing Vlad TV when Vlad TV started to become a real entity I reached out like I had millions of double XL and stuff like that. That went fucking nowhere, you know, I'm saying Yeah, they didn't believe in it They didn't believe in it and they didn't even want to like really associate with it, you know And they were like I was like, you know, you guys are really kind of behind the ball here Like this print shit is really going away. They're like, oh, we don't need your help You know, we're doing like, you know, that's wild that when you think about all of those institutions None of them involved into the digital age. Yeah, the sources are a lot of ozone magazine rap Yeah, it was always the one that bothers me the most because, you know, I used to write for ozone with the chin check Duval used to do Do I used to do something in those and I forgot what Duval segment was called But they had the their big juice with Julia Beverly She had her fingers on the poster everything that was coming out of the south. Yeah So they could have been the first world star the first Vlad TV everything. Yep. Yep. Never transition And how did you have the Thought to notice what again was going I Think that, you know, like before You know before Vlad TV in the whole DJ career I went to school at UC Berkeley. I was a computer science major and I worked at like Intel I didn't know you would know Berkeley. Yeah, you're a smart one. Yeah, you could be a spot Yeah, you know, they always say the feds he might not be the feds. He might be working for Putin, bro I Mean if I was working for Putin, I would put out an article in Variety saying he's an asshole Russian spy, that's a new one. I haven't heard that one yet. Yeah Everybody's the feds Working for Putin, bro. This is good To the Trump conspiracy also You need to get Trump on Vlad that would be fun Hell, isn't it? Yeah, we'll see you think you got it. He got to get Trump on He would I think Trump would do Vlad TV. Yeah, he's all about the numbers. Yeah But but to answer your question like yeah, I was a computer programmer for a little bit and I mean But I studied in school like I majored in so it was like I Approached Vlad TV as a as much of a technology company as I did a content company So the back end of you know, I spent millions of dollars over the years You know me and my programmer were building this whole back end of how to how can we really function and put out a large amount of daily content With a small staff and that was where the technology in the back end like me right now We put out 10 new clips a day plus two flashbacks and all in full interviews on certain days every day every day Damn 365 days a year holidays weekends birthdays You know, whatever else and to create that look that amount of content requires a system That could facilitate that and where people aren't stepping on each other's toes and Uploading the wrong thing and everything else like that. So Approaching it like a like a dot-com you could say along with the content company allowed us to sort of grow in ways that I think other similar companies could not What was your childhood like? But childhood like well, you got to understand First I was in Massachusetts Springfield, Massachusetts, I was a little kid And we were around kind of a Russian community and everything else like that my relatives were around and so forth My parents went and moved to San Mateo, California, right? They bought a house, you know their first house and they you know, this is where they settled I was down the street for my You know elementary school, but now I'm this kid named Vlad in the 80s With no Russian kids anywhere. No Russian families. No Russian anything This is in the whole school or and this is the middle of the Cold War You're the bad guy in every movie bad guy in every movie and I'm like right like every movie in the 80s Yeah, I mean red dawn Yeah, more games like whatever else so it's like your room for a rocky four Rock you did. Yeah. Yeah, well too long to answer that one Drago killed Apollo Cree. Yeah, that was fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was did you turn the movie off then? We like that's the end Comedy skills improved You're much sharper. They're much sharper. Thank you Vlad Comedy aficionado So, yeah, so here I am Growing up in this environment where it's always like a level of Animosity, you know, I'm saying and I think that's what initially drew me Against me. Okay. You know, I'm saying like I remember this one time this kid was like Yeah, I could shoot you and nothing will happen because you're Russian You know, I mean like statements like really hurtful statements like that when you're like Ten years old so people have been threatening to kill you for a while. Yeah, I'm used to it like that You think maybe it's you If it started 10 and it's still going that's more for Russians like that. Oh hell, yeah We were you gotta understand because I'm a little older than you there was a time This is the time I'm talking about where a nuclear war was a real conversation I remember that with Reagan and go on a before garbage of like like yeah, this is red and stuff like that Like there was there was TV shows called like the day after which is about what happens when a nuclear war happens And what you're supposed to do and everything else like that. Hey, there was a real there was a you know These days people don't think that people gonna launch nukes against each other But in the 80s that was a real conversation. So I was kind of considered kind of it was before that It was during like JFK administration. Well, but it kept going, right? Yeah It wasn't until Gorbachev came in and started to be friendly with america, right? Which ultimately led to the decline of the ussr Before then there was always animosity. Yeah between america and russia 100 percent. What was the people? I mean, i'm sure it's always over money and resources, but what was it over? I mean, it was over democracy versus communism Who's the superpower after world war two and who's the superpower after world war two? And you know think about all the wars that were being fought in, you know, vietnam Afghanistan, this is really russia and america fighting against each other on other people's turf. Yeah Yeah, they basically say the space race was like designed to bankrupt russia. Yeah Yeah, I remember when reagan did this speech and he was talking to russia and he was like Why are we beefing with each other when there could potentially be a threat from another planet? Yeah, that's Perhaps we need some outside universal threat to make us recognize this common bound I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world That was wow and like that was a he said that and it was like everybody's like, yo, he's right. We should have peace No, motherfucker. What about the people from another planet? He talked about him. Yeah Yeah, I don't know man. I don't know, but that's what white people have to do to create unity. I've realized Not like because like other groups can be like we can't fight with each other It's these white people holding us down, but white people don't have that so we gotta be like, I think there's aliens But to answer your question It was it was really just the way that I was treated as an outcast That like when hip-hop came around like, you know, I mean it was like, okay Like I can kind of relate to what's happening and then like the other Black and Hispanic kids that were kind of going through the same kind of racism That I was kind of going through and in a way we all sort of started to fuck with each other You felt like an outsider it relates to these other people who are outsiders. Exactly now all these people are not necessarily giving you like The easiest pathway to friendship I imagine early on Not really man. We're all kids Oh, but so you did feel like you had a community before you just said there wasn't like a russian community but in fact in fact there was a Like like someone who I'm really close friends with still to this day like my oldest friend essentially this guy named I'm not gonna say his name, but anyways, he was he was half black half russian You know, I'm saying so it was this interesting sort of like You know, I mean like like me and him started really fuck with each other because he had like a russian mother and a Black father, you know that that type of thing and it was like me and him just kind of like that was the only russian kid In the school, but he looked black. So he wasn't in his name was mike as opposed to blad So he wasn't getting the flak that he was on the russian side, but he was getting the black part y'all bonded over being Outcast basically. Yeah, and then What hip-hop? Yeah, okay. Yeah, you know, I was like we had a little break dance crew in elementary school What's the name of your break dance crew? Oh, I don't remember. I remember my name. I think was Kid fresh We had the remember like the The hats were like the flaps in the back Yeah And you would put your name was the checkered the black or white checkered And you'd have the fans to go with it and then you'd put like kid fresh like the red felt Letters, you know from glad is way harder than fresh Name glad is way. You know that goes in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, kid. Yeah kid fresh tv just doesn't really have the same No, no, yeah, that's dope. See I'm bonded over hip-hop. Yeah, and then what about your parents? Like what's your relationship with them? I mean my father passed away. We talked about back then or now back then Back then my parents were were immigrants, you know, my dad never really spoke english all that well My mom did a little bit more because she was a bit younger than him Yeah, um, they never really integrated into american society all that well My dad couldn't really keep a job so he had to start his own company Yeah, like inspected homes. My mom kept like the stable government job But they never really like we had no american friends Like like my family's my parents didn't have american friends ever they had other russians that would go and just comment associated with yeah, exactly and but like There was always the but I was american Right, like culturally i'm completely american. They don't know were they proud of that? Did they not like that? It was just sort of it always created somewhat of a little disconnect Between you know, like me and my mother aren't close these days like were you close with your father? A little bit closer to him were were they it was there ever moment where like they were proud of your success Did you and they were understanding they don't understand it? Yeah, they don't really know what I do You know, I mean like me in fact, I remember when um There was this point in my life when you know the dot-com crash happened and um My business got wiped out and I'd always wanted to do the dj thing And I spent a year trying to do it in the bay and then I decided I was going to move to new york Like I had the last few dollars I had I was you know, basically went to new york to go live on my friend's couch And my mom took me to the airport and to the airport. She was describing how i'm wasting my life and throwing my life away and just Not not taking things seriously, you know, I mean and wasting my time and I was like literally like crying in the car Like hearing my mom say that yeah So it was always like I like i'm gonna do this without Y'all understanding what I do and eventually y'all will see it or you won't but I'm on my own path with it. I think it's hard for Immigrant parents to see their kids take non-traditional paths, right because they're like, yo We risk so much Yeah for you to come to a stable place where you could be a fucking lawyer a doctor like someplace where you could have security Yeah, and then you're going on this like artsy dream Yeah, and that's probably difficult for the kid because I imagine like all of us you want your parents to You know feel proud of you or validate what you're doing, right? So at what point do you go? I'm never gonna get that from the people that mean the most to me I just accepted it early on I'm never gonna get it. They're never gonna understand. That's they're never going to say They don't listen to american music Yeah, you know i'm saying they don't they don't follow american You know non Headline type news. They don't know. They don't have black friends. Mm-hmm All my all my relationships with women have always been black. You know, I mean, so they don't there's always been the disconnect of like What I am Is very different than who they are And that never changed what would have made them happen like what could you have done? You think would have made them happen? I'm sure if I Married a russian jewish girl and stayed as a computer programmer. That would be like I mean going to berkeley must have made them proud Yeah, I mean it did it did and you know, but ultimately I became a dj. So right so I feel like you wasted your education Yeah, and you know something I I felt early on that like when I was getting to the dj thing I was 29 at the time when I moved to new york I was like damn like I really wasted all this time of college because all these other dj's are way ahead of me because they've been Starting since they were 16 17 You know, I mean, but now you're using that but now but now it's like in retrospect Wow, that actually helped me out in the future not in this particular field, but in what I ended up going into after so Life is a long journey. You know, you have to you have to take it all You know with a grain of salt and be appreciative for all the knowledge you got Even though if you don't understand how you're utilizing it at the time Is that why you called yourself the butcher for a little while? That was just like just to make you think you had a job No, that was So he's a spy bro Vlad the butcher don't that sound like something But you know, that's like an italian mafia name When he calls himself the butcher now, I like that. I like that. Yeah, I know that that's actually I didn't even Alchemist pointed that out. He was like, I remember I hit him up when I first heard benny before he blew I'm like, yo benny the butcher's dope. He was like one butcher to another and I'm like, oh, shit That's a good point Good point. I I named I named the butcher after the gangs in New York. Yeah. Oh, that's what I figured at camp Yeah, and we haven't sampled that the butcher like my mixtapes and stuff. Yeah I would think if your parents, you know, if you're an immigrant parent The american dream is the american dream like meaning that is Broad like it means that you could literally come here and whatever you can Conceive in your mind you can achieve. Yeah, like that's what I would think it is like I think when you just limited to three or four jobs It's not really a dream, isn't I Again, my mom is an immigrant. So like and she came here and she kind of lived that dream, right? She did a non-traditional job. So she had a lot of confidence in my ability to do that But I but also if your parents come here and they do more of a traditional job so that you can do it They're going wow, this is security. Mm-hmm. This is I think parents always want security for their kids So it's not that they don't believe in them. It's more How am I going to make sure you're okay when I'm gone? That's what I assume it is, you know I mean, I'm sure you guys feel that way about kids, right? Like don't you want like you probably want your daughters to do whatever they want But there's a little part of you. It's like well, it'd be nice if you get those degrees You give us some of the fall back on No, I don't think like that really. I mean, no, listen, I want I want them to do whatever it is That makes them happy. I do want them to have stability, but I don't know where that's gonna come from Yeah, I don't think stability necessarily comes from getting a degree. That's true. You know what I'm saying But you know that more than most yeah So it's like I could never like How could I do what I do and then look to them and be like well, y'all got to get a degree and y'all got Why would I want them to have I don't want them to have a job? You know what I mean? I want them to Start a business. Ah, ah, ah, you okay. Yeah. Yeah. You do want them to work. Yeah. I mean like my daughter my daughter loves cheerleading The thing I'm always thinking about because I can see that's her passion. I say, how can she monetize this? You know, is it through merchandise that are you going to own your own cheer gym? Yeah, like that's those are the things I'm planning in her head now. That's smart, you know so Yeah, because the career for a cheerleader might be short, but Oh, it's always a There's money in it But not as a cheerleader. Not as not as a cheer. Right. No, not as a cheerleader Right, but sometimes we fall in love with shit. That's not very lucrative And that's cool, too Like you look at like ballerinas and stuff like that like most ballerinas aren't making that much money But they've dedicated their entire life to this performance. Yeah, it's just the most important thing to them Absolutely And then maybe the smart ones like have found a way to monetize that outside of that like, uh There's forget her name misty copeland. I think she's a ballerina. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, she's like the the first black She's a gymnast ballerina Like premier ballerina for a gymnast. That's what she's she's actually very toned. Yeah, it's like non-traditional ballet built Yeah, that's typical. She's not typically built like a ballerina. Yeah, but she's you know doing a max commercial She's she's found a way to like monetize that that fame outside of it Yeah, I don't know vlad. It's just kind of interesting like Sometimes you hear someone's story like you hear like their childhood and kind of like what how they You know formed into a human being and that kind of informs like the choices that they make like I don't know I'm knowing that about you like feeling like this kind of outsider I think you see like a white guy in hip-hop You don't necessarily put together like what your identity was as a kid Your identity wasn't a white kid your identity was i'm fucking russian and motherfuckers are telling me i'm russian every day The white kids aren't going come hang out with us white guy. Yeah, that's interesting When's the first time you saw yourself in hip-hop like when you saw who was the person you saw that made you say Oh, I can I can be in hip-hop. I could be part of the the culture. Oh, that's interesting I mean early early on I would probably have to say I guess when you saw the beastie boys. Yeah, beastie boys Yeah, I mean beastie boys are possibly third base But I think a little more of the beastie boys because they were sort of like kind of fast and loose with the You know, I mean they're hip-hop but also kind of rock and punk You know at the same time and Jewish too, I think right? Yeah. Yeah, Adam. Adam. Adam Horowitz. Yeah Or you know ad rock. He's Jewish. So it's like You sort of see that, you know the way they sort of Played around with the genres and kind of how dope they were And it was like, you know that first album license to ill was just great phenomenal It was one of the all-time. I think best albums period Genre genre, you know aside and it was like, oh, okay. Like these kids is really Being authentic in who they are, you know, I mean like third base was more like Contraditionally black hip-hop, you know, I mean like Serge had the high top fade And you know the way they styled themselves and so forth. I'm like, I don't I can't really do that Yeah, but what the beastie boys are doing like that's kind of like yo like I can kind of relate to that a little bit more It's so interesting because I don't think the dynamics of uh black and Jewish Black and Jewish relations in hip-hop are disgusting though. Yeah, because it's been like that from the onset Yeah, we thought is def jam that people think def jam most iconic hip-hop label ever, right? It's Russell Simmons and rick rubin It don't happen without it. You know, I mean then eventually as Leo Cohen comes around It's just like it does not happen without that dynamic Well, it does but that dynamic is actually cool that now You think it still happens without it? Yeah, of course I think def jam still becomes def jam without like no I mean I mean like there's not always Jewish guys involved in every label and stuff like that Yeah Well, I mean like who who's running Capitol right now who's running epic right now. I mean now. Yeah Back then I mean listen man, like You know, you're talking about two groups of people that Is Jimmy Irving Jewish? I don't think so. I think he's a Catholic or something. I would I would think so seems Italian. Yeah, that's what I'm saying I mean you wouldn't want to look down. Yeah, but um, but I think what you're pointing out is there is this like marriage within hip-hop And it's been incredibly successful. Absolutely. And like both groups are You know playing a major part in this but it's not really discussed Did this love affair of the art has become so successful? I agree with you. I think that's interesting and then I need to understand Why and I need to understand why it's understood because it's not like Yeah, I need that's that's I think that's a cool story to tell I think so and I think that you know when you tell that story It shows that it's always been more than one culture involved in making hip-hop become what it is The artists also benefit You know long term like look at public enemy and their touring career Like, you know, I'm saying like even after their def jam days, they continued You know, Chuck D continues to do very well for himself You know, one of the greatest touring groups period internationally You see I'm saying so it's like but you still want to catalog Yeah, you know I'm saying you still want to write to your masters. It's like you probably go out and tell your jokes a million times but If somebody owned to write to one of your specials, you'll be like shit. Can I get my special back? I You don't know how right you are You don't know how right you are about that charlemagne there is There is there is a yeah, are we happening? No, I bought it back. I spent Yeah, I spent a ridiculous amount of money to buy it back With no plan on how I'll monetize it Because it's mine bro. Wow Because I worked for it and I made it and I want it Because it's mine. It's what I made. Hold on. You're opening up a great conversation right now because It's mine. What's the point of this? I'm not I don't want to say what's the point of having it back? Yeah What's the point of having it all back if you don't even know what to do with it? Well, I know is I know what to do with it. Okay. I need to give it to the people the exact way I want to give it to Okay, but what if that company you was with had a plan and y'all were doing it 50 50 Yeah, are you even 64? Whatever it is. That's what I mean. Yeah, what if they had a plan on? How to distribute it how to monetize it how to promote it market it Is it worth letting them have part ownership charlemagne? We know each other a while. Yeah I'm a pain in the ass Okay I know how to do things one way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah my way. Yeah. Yeah, okay And when it comes to the my my stand up, which I love more than anything obviously when it comes to A collaborative effort like this, you know, it's uh your way but I'm just joking. I'm just joking But like when it comes to my art the thing that I care the most about it Goofy to call it art but like my stand-up is like I work my whole life for this So I was in you know, this situation where I had, you know, the opportunity to buy my special back and Put it out the way that I wanted to put it out with the exact material that I wanted to put it out and I took advantage of that opportunity and I've worked very hard and I was fortunate enough to save up a bunch of money throughout my career and I I used it all to buy my Yeah, no, did you sell blad TV like if a company came along? I think anyone would sell anything for the right price Yeah, you know, I mean apart from we're about human beings Are we getting to that? Wait, what? Well, I had a great post about four hours ago. I want to talk about but good. What? What? What? But in terms of companies, uh, I think every company is up for sale for the right price Yeah, uh, you know, and I've had various conversations with companies over the years that they want to buy it but I think the thing for me is that Unless the price is astronomical Where it's like, all right, I could sell this and I never have to worry about money. I could I could maintain my lifestyle I could expand my lifestyle and never have to worry about money and have a multi-generational. That's cool but aside from that it has to be almost like, uh You know, not just say it's an equivalent company But like for example, like look at what disney did with lucas films They they bought it for a billion dollars and they expanded it. They put it on steroids Like, you know, look at all the series on disney's plus from andiloria and to babafett to obi-wan kanobi You know, I mean to more and more, you know, to more movies coming out and expanding everything else that's having um, you know, uh star wars at disney land, which I want to go visit and it's crazy They have a fucking millennium falcon life size A life-sized millennium falcon and like the one of those Darth Vader joints like so it's like for someone to come in and say look like we're going to take glad tv And we're going to up the production 10x where you know and give you access to Various things that us as a major company have access to And really make this a huge global blend brand Then I would consider doing that but until until that day comes we've steadily been increasing every year for 15 years so Can it exist without you? I mean it already has I mean if you look at what's been happening in 2022 I do Probably the minority of the interviews. Wow. So for example, my man, uh, shan prez Who's the shan prez? That's my guy shout out to shan prez He's done a lot of epic interviews like the young jock interview that that's running right now What I think just finished was one of our big big interviews Our little seas interview was was phenomenal another one of our big interviews Those are good for prez because prez was around bad boy. Yeah, exactly Jack was the artist on bad boy. Yeah, of course, he's big. Yep. Uh, surely jew, you know, she's like a younger Asian female interviewer that contracts for us and she brings in a lot of the younger artists And she connects more with like, you know, sort of like the younger generation Coach pr. He does a lot of the sports stuff You know, I mean, I could I could do the sports stuff But he's just better at it than me because he's more of a sports guy And then we started actually launching podcasts on the network So some of our regular guests that have done well So like riko reckless and e wall sammo. They just filmed their second podcast Uh, airy spears and his guy gerard. He has their own he has his own podcast on there So so the goal is is for me to come in and just do the really I mean because I still have a really strong passion for interview You know, I'm saying like You know, like I just interviewed burn man's brother, uh, you know, I'm at the watch gangster Terrence gangster williams So it's like there's a certain thing or like sammy the bull I just did that interview So those interviews I still want to do myself because I'm just really It's a thrill for me to actually sit down and put together this piece But by keep by you know, maintaining and growing the number of clips that we put out every day It's going to require a bigger team of interviewers and a bigger type of product You know a bigger array of products So that's the whole thing like just keep stepping away and kind of like an opera Oprah will come in and still do leaving neverland or You know the the royal you know that royal the royal couple but Most of the work is done by People that work for you regret putting your name on it because I was looking like two days ago I think it was a couple days ago and I saw an elite chopper going back and forth with blad tv's right twitter account And i'm like Well, it was the dj blad twitter account. So it isn't it isn't right because that was you tweeting That well, yes and no like there's a twitter feed that goes through that account So every you know blad tv one of the one of our companies is blad tv.com, which is the new site So I don't I don't run that you know, uh, you know, my man evan is the the content manager He decides what goes on that site, but it goes through my account So since I have the biggest twitter account associated with blad tv um, so it goes through there. So it went up it came up and it was You know how you know jesson beaver had that that situation where his face Have his face is paralyzed Ramsey heart syndrome or something. Yeah Ramsey Ramsey heart syndrome. I think yeah And uh, an elite chopper said, you know, oh, I've been trying to contact Justin Bieber how I'm calling me soon as possible. I got some herbs that'll that'll fix all that. So You know, we weren't trying to clown him or anything. We just the article went up with that title And other people were reporting on it as well and then He replied back To me, you know, since I tweeted it was like stop posting me you chump ass Yeah, and work, you know, I'm saying and usually I just ignore shit like that. But I guess today I got time cuz You called him a fraud You said you've been out here selling these pills that say you can give you a bbl Yeah, cure herpes and caught him with snake oil salesman. He was showing his age. That's what I knew That's like a blad 40 something like me snake oil salesman I mean am I wrong? Um, I mean has he has he cured? I mean Right, I mean, you know, he said, you know, the whole thing was like he was like, you know When he called me a chump and I'm like This coming from the chump who says you can cure cancer And his response was I did Oh, he said he did. Yeah And I said you you haven't cured shit An actual cure requires multiple levels of testing of hundreds of people and peer reviews You just tweeted about it. Yeah. Yeah It's lute and le chopper, but uh, it's been a lot of people trying to cure cancer for a long time I don't think he can create a pill that can cure cancer. I'm not I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispenser It's not as strong as avenger, but I think I'm pretty safe from saying I don't think he can cure cancer with a pill I mean if if he could like He'd be a billionaire. Yeah, he wouldn't be rapping. No, actually he'd be dead He's actually pharmaceutical companies. They get him out of here. Yeah Yes Yeah, right. It's not it's not resident evil where you could just when you're sick you get a plant Why if you know that he can't and everybody else knows that he can't why respond to that I think the thing was when he said stop posting and it's like you're not gonna tell me who to post but like I don't know. Do you care what people think about you? Is that why are you motivated? Like do you think they could be oh and only job of son to flat or something like why why the need to react to that? Like I just you know, I mean he's talked shit about him before he's called me the police on his twitter and stuff But then I didn't react, but you know, I mean telling me not to I feel like Had he said don't post me and then for whatever reason we didn't post him. Yeah, it'll look like he's telling us what to do Yeah, you know, I mean like like the outside public. Yeah outside public, you know, like young blue Said you know stop posting me and my response was nope Right does that then he would delete his tweet afterwards, but if you know if you did post him afterwards without saying no People would know that You're not listening to it seems like you're concerned today Today I had time because like, you know, I mean just that day he caught me on that one day and I responded and You know, I think I think really and to me this is sort of a bigger picture because it's like You have people that are really sick Right who really are going through serious medical conditions and if they're spiritual People like an elderly chopper will get them to really Question their doctors and question actual medicine that has research and history behind working for certain things They're going to be like, oh, well, let me stop taking chemotherapy and take these herbs and then end up dying You see what I'm saying it creates the creates a level of confusion with people who who feel a level of spirituality And and feel some sort of connection to to herbs and science, you know and and kind of like, you know, african you know Healing and stuff like that like, you know, and I think that there's a lot too And I think that there is soon herbs that could help that could help ease situations and help ease the pain But you're not going to get a bbl From a fucking plant. That's why you know, I'm saying bbl and then all of a sudden you breast give me Yeah, you're not gonna get bigger titties. You're not going to cure cancer I mean, he also said he he he was he was shitting eight times a day You know, what's the shit every time you eat eight times a day. He was taking a shit. That's a lot of shit That's a lot of you can't even say he's full of shit. He's not Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't have anything against anybody being holistic. I'm just saying go talk to like actual People who are into that in that space in a real way, right? You know what I mean But a lot of people say fake things on the internet. That's the internet But even with the thing what you said about going back and forth with an elite chop I almost feel like that's part of it now. Like if you're a blad or academics, uh, You know, uh adam like it's like when artists go at you it don't hurt It all it does really promotion and marketing at this point It's like, yo, you throw a tweet back to them next thing, you know, it's a story, you know I mean, it was on air like I didn't think I just thought it was just no one really noticed Like I wasn't doing it to try to like, ooh, let me get on the blogs. I don't really care about that We're on the blogs essentially every week anyways, you are one of our enemies Yeah, but I'm talking about like the shade room or ball earlier. No jumpers a cheese whatever, you know academics power 105 like you guys cover my shit anyways. Yeah, so I'm not trying to That's not the goal of what I do But like, yeah, I just I had like he had like two tweets. I had two tweets and Everyone picked up double excels a cheese like, you know, he was like starting to be everywhere And I'm like, okay, it doesn't hurt. It doesn't doesn't it's great marketing people love Beef they love fights. They're interested and it's like, you know, you're in the lunch room And two people start going at it, right? Everybody looks over. Ooh, what's going on? I just wonder if there is there anybody that could say something about you And then you wouldn't respond because it's not worth your time Or you wouldn't care what the people would think if you didn't respond 99% of the time I don't respond Gotcha And I have prominent, you know, major artists or whatever talking talking, you know Yeah, I mean people taking shots at me from You know from some of the biggest does it hurt ever like if you're being honest like Are you ever just like fuck? Why don't why don't you guys just accept me? Why can't I be in this? Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, like that's a good question If you're if you're being truthful, is there ever a moment where you're just like like you want to be accepted by I really wish you guys would accept me Uh, listen, what I what I love to be Nominated every at every award show and get access to every large A-list artists when they go on on the promo run and so forth Sure, who wouldn't who wouldn't want that type of access and love and everything else like that but at some point you got to really realize that You you have to you have to be happy with The the viewers as well as you know the business side of things and for me You could check that off a lot like you know, I mean like like we really We do two to three million views a day Every day on just the youtube channel then the facebook channel sometimes gets a million views by itself And then you know what i'm saying it's like and we have a whole membership You know like we launched a membership last year and it's grown into the thousands and thousands of members every every month We get more and more members like We have 15 employees everyone has health insurance like there's so much to be happy for There's so much to be grateful for that you can't spend your time crying about how you know You know push your t doesn't you know do my show when he's going his promo run like it just is what it is Everything you say is completely logical. I think that's the right way to do it and and and to say that like I mentioned on push your t's album twice Right, you know i'm saying so whether or not they're coming in and actually doing it Clearly it's part of the culture like you know, I mean you're the one that told me You're like, yo push your t's mentioning vlad on his first song on his new album. Yeah, push you mentioned it He could we reference the interview with um What's his name? Uh jz. Yeah jz. Uh jz. Gonzales, right and then even the jz The jz line was was about one of our interviews. Yeah the phase on love interview, uh, you know Two chains of song called vlad tv like you know, I mean so it's sort of like Whether i'm given the the love or whatever the impact is there you're part of the culture 100% 100% yeah, like you're validated by the people that are enjoying the content right right But we're also like emotional fucking human beings. Are we also like admire You know people that are in this art form that we love the same way I feel about stand-up I'm sure you feel about hip-hop. Yeah, and it's for whatever reason as stupid as it is It's difficult for us to to swallow certain situations where we really admire somebody and they're not Acknowledging the work that we're doing Well, that's that's what I wonder if you ever like I love patrice o'neill recipes But if patrice was like I don't like this kid this guy started that that would fucking break my heart I would have to go man But look at all these other people that that love my stuff and I'd lean into that But it would fucking break it would break my heart man. Well The thing is though you have to internalize a lot of that right So I have to be truthful in terms of my approach in terms of how I do how I built the company and how I Do my interviews, you know If I wanted to you know to really have everyone love me and have access to everyone and have everyone shouting me out Like let's say a Ralph McDaniels Right, like like everyone loves Ralph McDaniels like gnaz will sit down on the jc loves raffa do anything They did the knock documentary everyone stepped in everything else like that But you know, I interviewed Ralph McDaniels and he was just like, you know, I just love hip-hop so much I I never want to report on anything negative. I never want to ask anything any tough questions I just wanted to just celebrate what they're doing and that's all I wanted to do But that also limited the growth of his brand You see what I'm saying? It did and you can't you can't deny that And with us I came in with more of a 60 minutes approach of like, you know something I'm going to ask the really tough questions that no one's going to ask and that's going to alienate me from a certain number of people You see what I'm saying because People are scared to do vlad tv interviews. Like, you know, I remember I like I saw saucy santa. She tweeted he tweeted Like vlad tv wants me to interview. I'm scared with all these r's and d's and whatever else because people are sometimes scared to sit down Just like with you in certain aspects Because they know that there's going to be the tough questions the uncomfortable questions the the stuff that no one else wants to ask And so forth and That was the bed that I made and I lie in that bed and I understand with that comes a level of access that I don't get I don't get invited to the white parties and you know the rock nation brunches and stuff like that But what I've done Has numbers wise surpassed the people that that have played that game and have You know kept those relationships and always said nice things about certain people and never never report anything negative You know, we've done way bigger than that numbers wise and so forth and impact wise as well So to me that that's part of the acceptance of it all I guess people wouldn't want to know that vlad tv have a conscience like meaning like if there's certain things that come across the platform You like no, I'm not going to put that out all the time every day Is there anything that you put out that in retrospect? You regret putting out? I mean Sean presided an interview with a guy that Said he was the former President of murder Inc and that he got in the car when 50 got shot We come to find out Nothing is true with regards that it was just a crazy person who sat down and we put it out Wow You know 50 call us out on it just said put a screen capture and said fraud on it I remember I remember college. He was in the car with 50. Yeah, and you know, Sean Like, you know, and it's like this was Sean's interview like my outside interviewers They booked their own interviews right that that's what our relationship is like most of time So he brought this guy in he's got other interviews I'm Sean is someone who's been in the music industry longer than I have he was like this guy's the jit When 50 put up the fraud shit I remember I called y'all rule And I'm like, do you know this guy is y'all like I've never fucking seen before my life I call Chris Gotti same thing and I'm like fuck Let me take this down You know and I addressed it. I think when uh when I math hop interviewed me and I was like we fucked up Anything specifically you did in an interview that you regret putting out? Not not really because if I put it out I stand behind it. You thought two pockets still alive I never I never Never Because charlie you you even said to me there's things like a retrospect like you I think you even said like like What are some things that you're like, you know what I bunch of stuff Especially when you started seeing um climate change, right? Like when you started seeing the the climate of the culture changed Yeah, and you knew you know what's going to get people fucked up. Yeah, and so it's just like I'm not going to put that out. You know what I mean? Like I'm not going to put that out from this person because I know that This is going to cause this community to do this and this is going to cause him backlash And sometimes the artist don't even know it looks like you gotta state them from themselves. Exactly They're not aware they grew up in a way Where they're not aware that saying certain things could limit opportunities for them in the future Now it's not your responsibility To like educate these people on that but at the same time if you're aware of the repercussions You know I don't know. It's that's that's maybe you maybe you could go. Hey, are you sure you want me to put this out like that? Like I don't know. I don't know what it's tricky, right because I say it all the time. You're not forcing people to say this shit. Yeah, exactly They're showing up if they just round and they give it up and they're telling all of these stories and everything else Yeah, who's fault is that if you're comfortable enough to sit down in front of a camera and say it Why should I even think twice about putting it up? There's also this kind of false narrative that somehow people like interview The interviews are used in court cases and you know, which I've never actually heard of happening Like like literally I've never heard of any of our interviews being used in a court case Ours have yeah breakfast club. Yeah. I mean Nick Cannon You know like when when uh, Casanova got his bond, you know denied The actual prosecutor was mentioning Nick Cannon's interview with Casanova We actually put out the audio of the actual, you know, meeting with the district attorney and everything else like that That's happening to y'all too though. Mm-hmm Really? No Oh, there was fake articles about it. Like I remember like There was a fake article about, you know, when I was trending for like two days It was so annoying because there was a fake article that said judge personally Thanks glad tv for helping to convict ar app. There's a picture of some white judge Ar have it was from a a new site. No one had ever heard of but like You know all these people like quest love or like, yeah See, I told y'all like, you know, we're like, they're all trying to cancel me and shit like that over that and it was like The shit isn't true. Like it's simply like ar app himself In interviews since he's been locked up. So black got nothing to do with my shit. Yeah I mean, there's remember there's a rumor that that somehow I was involved in tax stones situation Got nothing to do like me and tax don't still talk tax don't get an interview saying black got nothing to do with my case black got to do in my case like You know, I mean, but I think they use a lot of those interviews in discovery But they don't like it don't mean anything. It's not like it's being used as evidence It's like if you've ever sat down and had like, I know I know plenty of breakfast interviews have been used in discovery Whatever the fuck that means. I'm not a lawyer, you know what I mean, but it's not in like Evidence it's not like being used as evidence against somebody in a court of law, right Because why it's in a pistol or something I think some of sometimes it's not pertinent information, right? You know what I mean? So it's just like, oh, what he sat down with Berkley's club and said x y z but it's not like something that's with the case is just in their discovery I literally just found that out this morning by the way, but I mean I've seen reference club mentioned in court cases I haven't I'll I'll be honest. I'll be I'll be dead honest. Yeah, I'm not I'm not making this up You know, I'm saying because I really need a bunch of tweets right now. I'm not gonna see him because I don't pay attention to it We're gonna get a bunch of tweets people say no, here's the article and it's gonna be that same Just reference. Yeah. No, I remember like for example like a Tasha K Did this this video where she basically said like yeah, Vlad is working with the police and he's giving them You know interviews directly to them blah blah And our lawyers had a contractor and say this is a lie It's actually not true What would be the bitch she had to and she had to remove that part of her interview? Like, you know, I'm saying she started to argue whatever and I'm like We could escalate this because this is actually defamation. Why would you have to work with the police? They could just watch it like everyone else. No, it's weird that you would have to work with them Everybody who does a Vlad tv interviews wearing a wire Including me They put it on themselves They put a laugh mic under their shirt and there's another microphone pointing at them and two to three cameras pointing at them There's no secret recording devices here. You there are literally five recording devices pointed at you as you're speaking to me So whatever you say, you're fully aware that it's going to be released. Yeah Isn't on the two chains internationally the hook of the song is I watched the man going Vlad tv and he told on himself That's Like you're not making them do any of this. Well now rappers are telling themselves in the right music They actually there's actually a story behind that what the Vlad tv's on. Yeah, whatever. Do you want to hear it? Yeah To change after four Vlad two chains two chains kind of touched on this on his on his drink champs interview but What happened was Two chains guy reached out to me and was like, yo, we want to sample part of this many the butcher interview For two chains new album And and people approached us about us all the time like, you know, like yfn luchis album had a boosty sample from our interview or You know, I mean like stuff like that always always seems to happen. So I'm like, hi cool. Well, I'll tell you what how about He does interview with me, you know as he's going on his promo run And we'll sign off on this many the butcher sample. He was like cool. No problem. So Two chains came in we we all met up at the studio and uh I hadn't heard or anything else like this, right? So I didn't even know the song was called Vlad tv or what the chorus was or whatever so We do the interview and the interview was cool And um, you know, but there's still no paperwork or whatever So I reach out and I'm like Can you send me the song and the sample? so I get the song is called glad tv and it's about You know, what you just said as you do go on glad tv tell on herself But then what they did Was the sample they wanted to use was my interview with benny the butcher But it was mostly me talking And they chopped it up in a way to make it sound like i'm somehow trying to like get people caught up Like they literally chopped the interview up In a way to make it sound derogatory Towards me and once I heard it i'm like I hit him up and i'm like i'm not i'm not clearing this Like and I understand that the interview is contingent on this. So i'm scrapping the interview You know what i'm saying, but but this right here like y'all y'all know what you're doing You know i'm saying so you had interview two chains for yeah, what's your live tv? Which never came out Wow, so that was like a it was like a barter like yeah, wow Yeah, so it never came out and then The album came out and the song was called black tea which they could legally do like I you know I'm fine with that, but it wasn't my sample And I think that that would have given it sort of the really nasty stigma Yeah, that they were probably trying to go for it. Yeah, but since I wasn't going to okay my voice in that Then they couldn't use that that's interesting. No, because it's a part of me. That's like why not lean into it You know, they're gonna say it anyway. They're gonna say officer Vlad whatever you might as well just Yeah, but you want to be represented falsely like if I took one of your interviews on You know that we did and chopped it up and made you look like you're saying something you're not saying Oh, that's that's been happening to me Welcome to the internet I don't like it It's one thing to have it on the internet, but it's another thing to have it be stamped into history on a major artist's album You see I'm saying that that's more of a permanent kind of thing. I think the internet is worse It's hardly easier to share a meme easier to share a clip than is to share a song Not but the song lingers on the meme will go away. Yeah It's just feeding into a stick a stereotype that already exists. I and at this point, I don't think It'll ever change. I just think it's like some of us are just the people that people love to hate You know what I mean? I I enjoy Vlad tv interviews because I feel like it's um I like the documentary style. Yeah That that that the way the interviews are done. You know, that's that's what I'm trying for. Yeah That's what I that's what I like. Like I learn things when I watch Vlad tv You know what I mean? Like you go you me me personally. That's how yeah That's how yeah, maybe we're infantilizing the people that you're interviewing. I don't even know what that word means Like we're either actually we're treating them like like children, right? We're going Hey, you guys aren't responsible enough to worry about what you say and Vlad you're supposed to be a dad and tell people what they can and can't say and Maybe that's unfair. Maybe we need to start treating these people you're interviewing like adults And they should know what they can or can't say in an interview But but the fact that nothing we've ever done has been used in court cases or whatever else Doesn't that already imply that the way I'm doing it is actually looking out for the people To make sure here what you're saying because I think people think That like you should never talk about a crime But if you actually, you know, a lot of what we do is in the gangster genre Whether it's the mafia guys or whether it's you know, like the rick ross is a statue of limitations Freeway Ricky Ross's or the convertible birds or whatever like These guys have done the time For what they got convicted for so they could talk about the kilos and everything else like that same with the bull admitted to 19 murders Yeah, you know, like I remember there was like this on twitter. It was going viral. It was like DJ Vlad be like walk me through your first murder And it was like literally have like tens of thousands of fucking retweets Tens of thousands like it was like I'm sitting there like it's a great question. It's funny though Right and I'm like it's better. You know if they already did the time I want to know about it Well, and then my response and I actually responded to it I was like same with the bullet of you coming soon. He did 19 murders And actually my first question is walking through your first Yeah, so is it a stereotype if it's true? It's Sammy the fucking bull Right killed 19 people. That's a valid We don't want to feel bad for Sammy the bull That's a valid question Yeah, right and I I don't know if I don't think any of your critics are worried about you asking Sammy the bull that I don't think that do you think if you were black you'd get any pushback Uh, I mean Sean cotton gets pushed back Sean cotton gets called the feds. He was like even our interview. Yeah, say cheese, right? Yeah, say cheese. He was like people. He was just working together like, you know what I'm saying You might you might get more pushback people if you're black people call academics the feds like, you know, I'm saying like And actually like like I remember what Sean said, which was interesting was that like I'll get certain interviews with both people like like like I interview both fulio and um Young and ace right and he's like Yeah, I wouldn't get both of those guys because people think that I'm playing both sides Whereas you could kind of sit back and say that you're you're a journalist You're just getting both of those stories. Like, you know, I'm saying like he's like me being black I get I would get caught in the middle of that and you know, I mean people would be taking it personally Whereas you seem to be getting away with it and I'm like, okay, cool So I mean I I get certain things then but he gets certain things as well that I don't get so it's all I don't sit there and cry about my race or opportunities. I don't get or whatever man Like you you've known me since before Vlad tv So you saw me get it out the mud Like you saw me go from being really broke and you've been remember my old uh, my old apartment in jersey Like I think you've been there before yeah way way back in the day I don't I don't want to say because I don't know if he's still having that but I don't know Uh, uh, I don't know I don't know. But anyways, like I mean really I started off My hip hop journey started out for me sleeping on couches with a backpack full of cds that I leave on consignment to the Africans on canal street so to go from there to Millions of people tuning in every day. It's like who am I to cry about it and and talk about You know the lack of opportunities like the fuck like I went from You know making mixtapes wearing that the feds were and kicked out my door and sees Everything I own like they did to dj drama. Yeah, you know, I mean I went from that To actually having a legitimate business. You know, I mean with content I legally own You know, you see I'm saying you're not worried about getting arrested or or or or you know losing everything I ever built myself up for like what would you say to people who say, oh, well Vlad just profits off black trauma and black death Uh, just like every other well number one. I also profit off Italian too Right, that's I also profit off uh black accomplishment black victories You see what I'm saying like do I do I is there any interview? I mean unless I'm talking about unless I'm dealing with someone who's like a criminal figure And that's the central part of their story. Well, Netflix profits off of like, uh, serial killer murders, right? All that I get it. I'm not no but to answer your question like Like if you look at the majority of my interview is like sure the negative gets covered But then when I sit down with someone for the first time I talk about all their accomplishments Yo, you drop this album you drop you had you this has 30 million views on Spotify Like yo like this feature was crazy like all that gets discussed along the way Now those might not be the clips that go super viral But to say that I sit sit down with people and all I talk about is negative means that you don't actually watch anything that I do And that's why the best part about the interviews you do with the you know the guys who have Done it You're telling the consequences and the repercussions of those actions Not a glorification of I used to be the biggest drug dealer. I used to kill 90 people. No You also went to jail for such and such amount of time Also got mental health issues. Yeah The one thing that that has been consistent with all the gangster Criminal type interviews that I've ever done and I remember I mentioned this a lot of times and it's always true There's always a ratio of for every year that you ball out of the street doing illegal shit You will do about five years in prison For every year. So if you ball out for five years be prepared do 25 Really and those numbers are so close to reality every time over and over again And that's what gets discussed at the end. So there's never a like I want to be the next freeway ricky like now because because his run was short His run where he was actually balling was short with the jail for math long. Exactly. No, that's real Exactly. That's real. It's not it's not a good ratio to be does everybody get caught up Like is there anybody who makes it out of the streets either alive or without going to jail? I mean I've interviewed. I mean like ever going to jail or ever getting shot like probably not I mean those people you probably have never heard of Right, no those stories are not told those are people that are in the shadows that you don't know They got away clean and they got away clean and they're not talking about it And that's why you got away like like there's an actual like real financer of death row Who just got a prison not too long ago hario not hario not hario. There was a guy who put up the money for hario Hario was almost like the face of the money, but there was a guy that was sort of a bigger D boy that was in the mix who went to jail And got out and he's not talking to nobody because You see I'm saying like like there's there's there's much The the you know the people who put themselves out there And so forth are not always the ones that really are doing it at the very highest level So there just wasn't happy to get caught and that's the other reason when it comes to like rappers Artas or anybody when you put them in front of a camera I don't even believe 90% of the wild shit they say So it's like yeah, I don't even have the way with all to take that out It's different now because I'm realizing like oh these motherfuckers really be doing something But back then it's just like are you just talking You know, how much of your hate do you think comes from financial success? Like if you fronted like you were broke I don't know if people are gonna hate you, but maybe they see you got the cars you have watches you give them financial advice They're starting to go. Oh, I don't like that. This guy's so wealthy now. Give me a reason why I should justify it. There's a there's a jealousy that kicks in 100% you could always tell When someone has that issue because they'll bring up your money in a conversation that has nothing to do with Ah For example, you just come out of the blue. What the fuck like What does yeah, we're talking about something completely different. Vlad's the police also. How many cars does he need? right That's that's kind of like that. Yeah, Italy chopper said that What do you say he says something like oh, you make all this money out of black community You don't really fuck with us. What does that even mean? Like I'm not the one claiming to cure cancer for y'all like, you know With with fake herbs like, you know, I mean like like you can take that a bunch of different ways Like you got dressed like adam salam, bro. Yeah, if you I mean like Because for like adam salam is probably worth it adam salam hitting gems right now No, I'm saying the actor like No, that's adam 20. I know they but they were people are crazy You're right All I'm trying to say is like he he he plays and that's probably just how he likes to dress Yeah, but like he appeals to the everyday man, even though he's a billionaire because oh, he's probably worth like half Maybe to a bill like he's he's he's yeah, it's crazy. So Yeah, I just I wonder if that reduces any sort of animosity towards adam I'm sure I'm sure it would to a certain degree. And if you really look Like yeah, I'd be I wear a nice clothes. Oh number one. I don't do very many interviews, right? I have to look how I You know, I have to look nice in the interviews Like, you know, I don't dress like this when I'm going to the grocery store But but if you look if you if you really pay attention to who I am You've never seen a picture of my house. Yeah, never seen a picture of any of my cars Yeah, um, you never see like like my watch collection or you know, I mean or all my chains or whatever like That's actually kept Completely off the record. Yeah, you know, I'm saying that that's kept private Um, you know, I don't talk about my family or show pictures of my family or whatever else It's like, yo, like, you know, whatever you're seeing is just based on assumptions You know, I mean like I don't you know, I mean, you know, like I remember game Just an interview where they're talking about how he posted 13 million in his bank account Like I would I wouldn't even consider doing that. I wonder if not showing your family hurts you Babe seeing somebody with a family and children And like in a loving relationship and again, like I don't really show that, you know, I don't show my wife really that much I don't know. Charlemagne doesn't really either. But there's there is something about Seeing a human being an incredibly human situation where they're like loving and like vulnerable like Even sorry to interrupt but like even gang members see you walking with a kid And if you're like the ops, they sometimes it's like, yo, you got lucky You see this new shit Garbage bro, the fuck fuck those dudes, man. What do you mean? They threw the baby in the garbage? Dudes, I think it was at Chicago I thought it was here. I thought it was maybe it's maybe it was new york Yeah, I don't know but literally they're trying to get some dude They couldn't get a hold of them so they threw his fucking how'd they get his baby two months Two-year-old baby in the fucking garbage like he was running with the baby in the stroller I guess they got him. They got the baby. They put the baby in the garbage can You gotta call Putin in No, no, no, I think it was not that it makes a difference, but it was like maybe three or something Is that not a good enough reason to snitch? Yeah, you should snitch Yeah, if you personally aren't gonna say, you know what I'm gonna go handle this myself call the police Yeah, well, I believe in snitch. I believe in calling the police. I love the police. I'm happier here Let's pay some bills and come back and I want to talk to Vlad about what he posted earlier And I want to ask y'all what would it take for you to be a prison wife? 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It was it was a cool time in content where Everybody watched the show at the same time and had the discussion about it the next day at the same time Yes, and uh, there are a few shows that made people do that I think I remember even like back in high school It was like wrestling that made you do that Yes, but that even that even that didn't have like the broad broad audience Chappelle show definitely was like chappelle show 100% and it was wrestling had a very large audience though Yeah, but I don't know if it was as broad as like a martin. Yeah. Sopranos had that effect like there There were a few shows but do game of thrones even that's the craziest thing about game of thrones is even now It has that effect. I never watched it, but I know that it's man. I'm jealous that you get to experience it right me too Like me too. I want to experience what you're about to experience. Yeah Why not? I would love I will one day. Maybe okay. Yeah your confession Like why would you not watch? I'm just I'm just so I love marvel. Yeah, I have another confession. Yeah, never seen the wire, bro Yo, you really great one You crack ass cracker, bro How the fuck have you not seen the wire dog? I owned the whole box in on dvd. I never seen the wire. You have a dvd player. Well, I mean, I had The xbox one I never seen the wire, bro. Um How what do you watch you watch everything? I know I watched I watched true blood. I watched the sopranos. I never watched the wire. I don't know why I have no real I have no idea why I've never watched the wire great. But I will yep Um, you watch Oz and true blood Huh same thing Do you think the wire doesn't have enough like gay sex scenes in it or something? That's what you're worried about, bro And This next gay though. Yeah say what wasn't all my gay Yeah, that's true. Oh, so there you go. There are no sex scenes though. No, there was one What the Puerto Rican got his boyfriend. Yeah, right. Oh who got killed come on now. I'm messing up Remember they go to Puerto Rico and like him and his dude It's been a while. Yeah, you didn't you didn't you know sit down with the lotion for that one You can't get the lotion in the bathroom Nice and full, you know me Season five and heats up that's all I'm trying to say about the wire Um, okay, listen guys, this episode is also brought to you by square space Square space is the all-in-one platform for building your brand and growing your business online Stand out the beautiful website engage your audience and sell anything your products content you create and even more I'm telling you you do not have a business if you do not have a website for it You need a place on the internet for your business now a day square space makes it easy for creators to monetize their content And uh expertise in a way that fits their brand Okay, with member areas you can unlock a new revenue stream for your business Free up time in your schedule by selling access to gated content like videos online courses or newsletters Create pro-level videos effortlessly the square space video studio app helps you make and share engaging videos to tell your story Grow your audience and drive sales Stand out in any inbox with square space email campaigns Collect email subscribers and convert them into loyal customers start with an email template and customize it by applying your brand Ingredients like site colors and logos Built-in analytics measures the impact of every send use those analytics and insights to grow your business Learn where your site visits are from and the sales are from And analyze which channels are the most effective improve your website and build a marketing strategy based on your top keywords Or most popular products and content head to squarespace.com slash idiot for a free trial And when you're ready to launch use the offer code idiot to save 10 off your first purchase of a website or domain That's squarespace.com slash idiot with the offer code idiot for 10 off your first purchase now Let's get back to the show announcements are a very important part of what we do in church We got church announcements. Uh, and I'm glad this is the part of the show where we uh, shout out anything that we got to promote Market anything coming up what you got shows? Um I got an announcement next week. You said that That's like charles two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is yeah What was that book about the mermaid state of emergency to me come out? No state. Yes, state of emergency Uh, no in uh, I'll have an announcement when I'm back from um, when I'm back from my honeymoon We'll definitely have a nice fun announcement when I'm back from my honeymoon, but uh, alex media's got a new studio in la That's an wtf has expanded. That's right. Hollywood In hollywood california wtf weezy and alex got a new studio out there. So go get that I don't I don't agree with it. Talk to me. You just encouraging more people to do podcast. They don't need to be doing This guy is I respect entrepreneurship. I love the entrepreneurship. Well, you should have said this you should have said, you know We're going out of business and then charlo said it's because you didn't open up a studio in LA That's the real reason why he's all out of business No, but if you are if you are a podcaster who uh, has a successful podcast and you're looking for a great place to podcast Wtf media studios in la is your spot. Damn, right? You're a new up and coming podcaster who's thinking about starting a podcast. You can't afford them So that means don't even start the podcast. Go get a job. Okay Go get a job. So you can afford them. Go get a job. Vlad. You got any church announcements? Uh, well the the vlad tv youtube membership, which I think that not everyone's familiar with but essentially You know the way we release our interviews is that we drop new clip by clip And then at the very end we drop the full interview But if you want to skip the line you get a vlad tv youtube membership for four nine nine a month And you get the full interview add free on the same day as the first the first clip Wow, you know I'm saying so like for example, like, you know, we got The same with the bull interview that's going to drop uh next week. It's like two and a half hours You know by the time the full interview comes out it might be like a month and a half Yeah, and so forth. So if you want to watch the whole thing on day one, uh You know get a vlad tv youtube membership, you know, everyone who gets it said it's the best four nine nine They've ever spent so people are people subscribing to it thousands and thousands and thousands of people Wow, I mean, I just wonder because like when people are used to getting something For free, you know what I mean to get them to pay for it is always a A challenge, right? Well a lot of times what I've noticed is that it really depends on the interview itself So for example, we just had tony ayo. I didn't realize how many g-unit fans are amazing in like in terms of world Why so it was like we had our biggest month. I think our membership grew by like 25 Wow last wow this after being up for a year and having a big membership already grew by 25 We said so many people wanted to see the tony ayo interview, but we were also running the mont shumpert interview There's a boosty interview Tk Kirkland, you know I mean a lot of a lot of you know Gilbert arenas like a lot of the heavy hitters that we have on the show But yeah, uh, so if you want to you know, like that was always a big complaint It was like drop the full interview drop the full interview drop the full interview It's like here's the full interview one nine nine a month So I think another thing people don't realize you you you pay too Yeah, no, we started, you know a couple years ago. We just realized that It was going to be hard to grow the business Based on people doing it for free all the time now certain people You know, I mean like we're cool with it But if we wanted certain types of guests We were going to have to really start cutting checks and that really changed the whole business bottle Suddenly we started having access to people that otherwise we wouldn't have had access to like sami the bulls that out there doing free interviews Yeah, you see I'm saying so we had to cut a large check to sami the bull, but we got an interview And you know, literally for two years, we've been talking about it And it was like We want to do the interview we wanted to do that he didn't you know He didn't really want to do the type of interview But it's like we wanted the interview we want to do and we finally agreed on a price and a date to do it But like come on, I mean all of our regular guests get paid the people you see on vlad tv Over and over again, you know, I mean like whether it's tk kirkland or the marinas or the boosies especially um You know whoever They are actually getting paid to to do interviews every time And and that to me I feel sort of changing The the space of it because listen, we're all making money out of these interviews. So why why would we not share? You know the interview, you know share some of that revenue You know with the person who's doing it now not everyone's going to get paid at the end of the day It's like You know if little baby wants a you know if you you know if little baby wants you to do a verse Are you going to charge him? You know i'm saying when you could technically But the opportunity of being on a little baby song is that and so we do not pay for everybody But for a lot of people we do Yes, a lot of artists. I think brexit club pays for interviews. I don't know where y'all got I know where y'all got it from. It was one artist in particular who said that happened, but that was a lot Who said that i'm not gonna say how much does the same of the bull interview costs? I'm not gonna say Like A thousand dollars Bit more than that Wait a minute bitcoin a hundred thousand Not that much. Okay. We have a range somewhere between You have ninety nine thousand dollars to play around with. That's how you find out how old women are You know what i mean like you want our hundred. Yeah, you look like you're 25. She's like what there's no way You're so you're so adorable. Thanks for saying that and then you go way high And then she's like no way i'm not 45 and then boom so 50 000 for the same you to book No comment hit it A good amount of money. No comment, but it's actually not that amount. Oh really? Now do you ask for exclusivity on that person? Uh, no never That's a good deal never ever I mean sometimes we'll ask like hey listen Can you before doing you know, let's just say as a person that's about to do a lot of interviews We'll say, you know, especially for if it's a financial transaction. We'll say hey, listen Can you wait until this interview drops before doing other interviews? Yeah, that's more that's more what i meant. Yeah. Yeah, but ultimately they could also say no And and it is what it is. You just got to be confident after your interviews the best Right and and like one thing that like, you know, sometimes people have come to me like, you know I remember I interviewed uh, here's the christ. He was like this dc, uh drug king and he was he hit me up He was like, hey, um Can I still do documentaries or movies about my life? Like do you own my life rights and i'm like no not not on the least Jesus Great at all like, you know, I mean like all I own is what we filmed that day You could go out and do the same interview 20 more times, right? That's what you want. You could do I mean, I think the michelle a TV movie was was based on our interview. Wow. I think that's what she had mentioned to me at one point So it's like a lot of stuff that what we do is in a documentary format We'll get churned into bigger projects later on that's I want I want to see china max story turn into a film But we talked about that absolutely Waiting on you on that. He's crushing it right now. You Really china mac. Yeah, he gave his first interview. Really first ever interview out of prison. No, he's crushing it right now Yeah, he has this uh Is this like mac eats show? He's doing like a we have a mac. We have a mac. He's on glad tv, which we haven't run yet Oh, really? But yeah, he's like traveling all around. He's really utilizing youtube almost as like, uh, his his way to interface with Fans in general like putting out a message or put out on youtube Usually people use like instagram for that, but he's cultivated like a cool audience doing show Yeah, I really like what what what a china max do because I know when we had him on He was talking about rapping, but he was like I also see myself doing other things outside of rap And and it looks like he's doing it man. Yeah another another regular guest on glad tv Who gets paid to do it? There we go like another another person that we Helped out and that that's the one thing that sort of annoys me sometimes is that People don't mention the people that we've helped out along the way like for example, you signed the gangster chronicles Yeah, right and to still no. Yeah mce and and um mob james really got to start on glad tv That's what led to him actually doing a podcast and and the mob james. Yeah, you know and ultimately doing stuff like that like um, you know We we try to help people's careers and sometimes you can jump start their careers like a china mac You know our mob james. Yeah, and uh, you know, it'd be nice to think I mentioned every so often, but it is Hey, listen my my church announcement is uh, salute everybody who came out to the Tribeca film festival Uh to watch the movie 88 that our executive produced. Um, the saturday night show was sold out uh, but Well, we got a show we got a show that we recorded this on tuesday So we got a show tonight at nine o'clock, but the next show is saturday june 18th 215 p.m. Theater number six go to Tribeca film festival uh dot com I think there's still tickets available for that show. Um, this saturday june 18th 215 p.m Go see the movie uh 88 that our executive produced stars my man brandon v dixon and natori noton and um Yeah, this is a good weekend to go see it this weekend is going to be it's going to be what black gay father's day Black gay father's weekend. What that's a thing Well, it's i'm combining it because it's three different holidays and one so Sunday is june team Right, so it's a celebration of blackness. Okay, plus it's going to be father's day And it's pride month. Why don't we just call it atlanta day? Is that a good idea? Black gay father's day I'm just saying this is a good weekend really on your own Black gay father's day go see 88 Okay, take it take your black gay father to go see 88. Yeah this weekend at the Tribeca film festival Let's do it. This is a good weekend for black gay father's bro that sunday. Yes, dude. I've been waiting for for this day I've been waiting for you know time where we can finally celebrate black gay fathers There's not enough celebration of black gay fathers. Well, this sunday is our day. Okay Now it's yours I'm black bro, but what about the other ones? Well, you're a black father, but you're not gay I feel like humans. We're all encompassing If I am what you am I am what he is I am what alex is I am what taylor is You know what I mean a little gay. I mean, I think we also You think we're a little gay Yeah, okay, then you played with your dick. Yeah, that's true. Yo, it is interesting like your Yes, your shit ain't gay, but then there's a limit like jerking off. We've decided that's not gay Right another man, but another man, but we're not I guess crazier jerking off is not gay But if you finger your butthole That's That's that we would think is gay, right fingering your butthole that being said jerking off Not gay at all straight even I only want I only want to say that's gay That's who decides who decides I feel like it's something bigger than gay. Go go. What's beyond gay? I don't know. What's beyond gay? What is beyond gay? That's a good question. I don't know What is beyond gay finger in your butthole finger in your butthole is beyond gay, right? Yeah, isn't that What is it? That's not even beyond gay. That's impossible impossible gay But but but jerking yourself off is not gay. What about jerking yourself off and fingering your butthole? At the same time It kind of screams gay to me. It's kind of screams. You should be getting paid for that Come on. That's an amazing thing to be able to do jerk off and thinking See what you admit when flags in the room poor balance You have to have Core ballad you're not strong your core has to be Yeah, it's like to be pulling and guilt. That's one of those things, you know, you can't like pat your head and rub your stomach Yes If you can finger your butthole and jerk off If you can do that email us, man, I did it. I bet you did Vlad I bet you did. I got skills in other areas. I'm just saying You're missing out. I see the road that I'm about to walk down. How'd you get that scar on your finger? I Well, I was alluding to the the thing we were talking about nothing to do with that. Okay. Okay. I'm just The pointer finger for you got good fucking observation So I'm out here. I'm watching the room. You know what I'm saying? I gotta make sure he's not, you know Bugging our phones and shit for fucking Putin this guy. What's the what's the story? Uh, I remember I mean it was it wasn't a great story. I was Like I was training to be a boxer not like not like training to be a boxer But like taking boxing lessons. Yeah, I mean I was in my house Practicing punches. I ended up punching the door frame on accident Cut yourself with a meat cleaver when you was doing the Butcher Vinny. Yeah, Vlad the butcher almost nope. Okay, this is we're not gonna give we're not gonna we're not gonna give that anything Keep digging your grave Listen, we shoot on this podcast We didn't say we did we're curry went over nine yesterday. He's still gonna win finals MVP. Wait, did he worry over Over nine at three point is yesterday. There's no way And they still got the dog warriors and six, baby cleaning that up. They clean it up Okay, listen, um dj. Vlad posted this For all the young guys out there who think that prison isn't that bad This is from Aaron Cox Former 32 months as state property at pennsylvania department of corrections I guess the question was what is it like to be turned out in prison? And i'ma read this whole thing because I need everybody's answer on this In my mid 20s, I was young and stupid thought I was a tough guy and was hustling Ended up getting pulled over with a loaded gun and two ounces of powder and got sent to a state prison for 32 months It's 32 months. So that's like what three years almost two and a half years almost right In order to survive in there. I basically had to become someone's prison wife as they call it I was young slim good-looking and completely inexperienced in doing time My celly was solid muscle. So he started taking advantage of me. What can I say? It was awful in the beginning, but I got used to it. I now know that it could have been a whole lot worse for me So i'm not bitter at least he treated me pretty good Never hit me or nothing like that and he never shared me with he never shared me with no one thankfully Like I seen happen to some of the other guys who got turned out in there I am well aware that there's going to be people on here who are going to clown me and point fingers I don't really give a fuck what happened to me happens to a lot of men in lock up I'm just one of the few who has the heart to admit it They even have a name now for the type of situations like I was in it's called protective parent Like I said, it happens to lots of men But some of the guys in there who aren't as strong becoming a punk is the only way to guarantee your safety Because in return for giving up the booty you get protection I'm now 31 years old have a beautiful girlfriend and moving on although my experience in prison will stay with me for the rest of my life thoughts protective pairing protective pairing I remember a girl respond. She goes like shit because of inflation protective pairing right now Fucking hilarious now, that's crazy man. I don't know about all that. He was just talking about what's gay. That's gay. That's gay What is gay for survival? Yeah, but it's just yeah, I think that's so it's a mind set or an action Well, I don't think he's gay. Well, no, I think he's gay but No, is gay a mind set or an action? No gay's a mindset like doing something gay because you have to doesn't make you gay Right, but he was he was he's a rape victim. Yeah. Yeah If that happened, I don't I don't believe this to be real at all like that Yeah, I think so that's a no it's cap. Nobody would ever admit that no girl. I have a girlfriend No, but I'm good. I didn't say his real name He said his name was Aaron Cox, but he this fake. She probably got in prison No He didn't say it Nobody would admit. Okay. Okay. Let me let me tell you. I'm anonymously. Did you guys? Okay? Joe Rogan played this clip on his show. Yeah, you know, I watched it. You know what I'm talking about, right? Rico Reckless I saw that before and in cook county jail In Chicago They spit on your butthole or something. They spit in your they knock you out and spit in your butthole. Okay. You think that's fake You think you think both these guys are just making up the story just for fun Well, no, there's two different things going on here Like he's admitting that he was sucking dicks or fucking this guy They're saying that other people are abusing I think it's very rare that the victim just comes out and they're like, yo, this is what it was And actually it wasn't that bad. He treated me pretty good I think it's it's a form of therapy like that's something you got to get off your chest Tell your therapist, bro. Tell your therapist, bro. Don't tell that to facebook But you want to warn people I think what he's doing those are the kind of stories that keep people out of jail Yeah, I really believe that that's I mean Seriously in high school Jails now for me. That's it. I made a Decision for the rest of my life To say once I saw that the rape scene with the mexican mafia and the italian mafia, dude I said now for me. Yeah, you know, I mean those are the beyond those are beyond scared straight stories Those are the stories that you tell That really keep kids out of prison. I think so anyway, you know what I mean because it's just I don't know if it's because of social media and you see people in prison and they dancing and they Like they got food and everything looks all beaches and cream. It's like no, it's prison, bro It's going down in there like you don't have to fight every day of your life to stay alive And this dude only did 32 months God damn, bro 32 think about that 32 months One decision cost him 32 months of his freedom and he got violated in prison. He actually needs therapy This is a cry for help if you ask me He's helping other people by telling his story, but he actually needs therapy There's no way in hell he has a healthy relationship with his girlfriend. Yeah, it's impossible Yeah, remember in american me when he got out and he tried to get with the girl And he was trying to buttfuck her and she was like, ah, you don't remember that part. No, you don't remember that part You remember that part, but you don't remember the whole mars shit But that was with a man and a woman you talk about with two men. Ah, yeah, I guess See what did they do after they spit in your butthole? I forgot that part Well, what happens is is that once you have uh human Anything human saliva or a human bodily fluid inside of you is considered rape So then they have to go and administer a rape kit and have to notify your family that you've been raped in prison Man, no, man. So this is without raping. Fuck. They're raping without raping without raping I'm let me tell you this when I played this for you know, you just mentioned china mac teases, right? Yeah, you mentioned china mac. Yeah, well because I haven't seen that but What I did see is like, okay when dudes In prison they hide things in their trunk. Yeah, right, which is their ass, but yeah boofing Right. Yeah, so what he has seen is a dude will boof some drugs and word will get out He's got some drugs in his ass. So he's seen dudes Knock the guy out Reach in his ass. No pull out whatever he had in his ass No, they go hang out with their friends and smoke open it up And then go smoke or shoot up whatever the hell they just pulled out of this man's ass Imagine doing that as a prank and this dude don't got nothing in there. I think just an empty bag that says, fuck you What if you don't got nothing No, you say you got it in here you take it out in the bag. It's just a paper that goes Hey, yo Yo, why are you reaching in people's asses though? Prison is not what y'all want to be The whole other world Jesus Christ a salute, uh, quin quin quintencil gentlemen, um, I'm Did I not pronounce that right? Oh, I didn't even see the word bugging quintessential quintessential. Yeah This guy is crazy, bro This guy is quintessential genome. This guy is a multi multi millionaire business owner genius communicator like for a living But I just can't pronounce he's awesome, bro. He's awesome. Listen, we all fall short if there's more than three syllables in again It's unbelievable just a genius. He saw quintessential and didn't even fucking try, bro He didn't even fucking try go go now just salute to them I'm on the cover Oh I can't I can't wait till he's on the cover of vogue. He's like, I'm on vogue About vogue you Did the whole photo shoot everything no clue what the fuck the magazine was I do know the magazine they did a nice article You know what's so crazy that's what when I was in brooklyn. I was in brooklyn shooting there This guy is unbelievable if you look at the picture shout out to quintuplet shout out to If you go look at the pictures, right? Yeah, that's what you look at. No, definitely not reading the mother The pictures are like model s right Right, it's the way he had me posing and stuff right there And that's when I was in brooklyn and one of them young boys was walking down the street. No, look Damn, bro. That's that is that's a little too much. No, you looking handsome, dude. That's what I keep hearing I'm trying to pair up. That's what I keep hearing The dude in brooklyn. I'm dude was walking by the dude goes Yo, charlotte may word to my dad you're giving sexy my boy What I'ma give myself a yo word to my word to my dad. I gotta a yo myself word to my dad I gotta a yo myself My boy, yo word to my dad. You're giving sexy. Yo, you're giving sexy, bro You're giving sexy my boy. You're giving sexy. Keep going. We got another one. God damn, bro Yes, lute the q magazine, man You actually Thank you for coming man, of course, man. Appreciate you. Of course, my guy, you know, we easy Hey Why we getting kicked up? Oh Vlad is my guy man. Yeah, my friend for a long time. He cancels we his birthdays a day before mine We celebrated many a bday party together And I appreciate black You got anything glad tv.com all that good stuff Hey, glad tv.com. Check out the membership on youtube.com slash blad tv Glad tv on instagram and sammy the bull coming. What are the other big ones you said do you had? I mean war warren sap is dropping today warren Um, michael frenzies is back. He's uh, he's dropping next week as well Um, man, we're we're working on some stuff. Okay, you know, I mean like I don't like to announce stuff until I actually film it. Yeah, but sammy's been filmed Uh, michael's been filmed and we have I mean, we're actually the first time in our 15-year history like We are so backed up like we're literally have clips scheduled into august Wow, you know, I'm saying where it's like we I'm not interviewing as much as I usually am because I just need to let these things to kind of clear up a little bit That's great. There's just so much content. Um, but yeah, it's good. 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