 Second by Councillor Chang, any discussion? All those who are driven, most should please say aye. All right, any post? If she carries unanimously, we have an attempt. I know you have 2.01, but we'll press the poll, we've just started. We are in public forum. And I see there's nobody on the first Friday, the people on the normal forum so we'll go to Chair Buescher who is Sharon, can you hear us? Yes, can you hear me? You can, go ahead. Right, the sound is a little bit garbled tonight. It's not as clear as it normally is. I just wanted to let you know. I'm not quite sure why. But I'm calling not to speak to something specific on your agenda, but something that I just wanted to call to the Board of Finance attention and to the Mayor's attention. It's very laudable with your very aggressive housing agenda. But as I am a political junkie and go to a lot of, zoom into a lot of meetings, I am seeing the housing agenda unfold, which is great. But I want to understand who in the city is looking at the balance between commercial retail and housing. So that my fear is that in our desire to house people and create affordable housing, we will tip the scale so that the residential part of the city will bear the burden of the property tax. I'm worried about how this will play out with the sales tax, with less real estate, not real estate, retail. And I'm worried about even the impact on rooms and meals tax. And I don't know whether you have been monitoring this. I assume you have. I assume Rich has and Catherine have. But I would feel really good as a resident to know that someone is looking at this and feels like we're maintaining the balance that we need so that we don't become a bedroom town for Williston or South Burlington or other surrounding communities. So thank you so much for listening to my concerns. And I hope you have a good meeting. Great, thank you Sharon. Appreciate you Connan. And I would say we now have a business and workforce development department that certainly watches additional capacity, addition to CIO and other capacity for monitoring our business taxes. And I would say the news there, I think that is generally good. And I don't really see these two, but how's this really being in conflict with each other? Complimentary a lot of ways, but maybe more conversation on that another time. If there's no other people online, which does not appear there, we will close the public forum and move to the consent agenda, which is really just a minute. It's number 19.2. Welcome to motion. Here on the consent agenda. Look at this one, so. Okay, so thank you President Powell. Second by Councillor McKee, discussion. All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. So that's adopted. This brings us to 4.01, which is the first four air court items. Welcome, Nick. Item number one is request accepted. Thoroughly introduced an industry grant for the environmental renovation project and execute the contract for the construction of a building. Construction. Can you just do a quick summary for the public on what it said? Following the progress of the airport. Sure, absolutely. So after we opened up our new building, the terminal integration project, we're not able to switch our focus to renovating the North Concourse area because TSA is now vacating from that particular site. So that old security checkpoint, which has actually been vacated as we speak right now, will be completely renovated. The glass is removed. The escalator systems in the middle of the concourse will be removed before it's built in. This allows additional seating of additional capacity at the gate specifically area, which is one of our most highly utilized and largest aircraft gate position. This is also going to add a few automated features to the airport, including shifting our exit lane, growing a little bit larger footprint for our concessionaires, both Skinny Pancake and Hudson News, and adding automatic exit lanes to both sides of the concourse. This is just over a $1.9 million project, again funded through the FAA. We have not received the grant yet, but we're expecting it very shortly so we can move forward with the proper recommendations. Right away. Thank you, Nick. The floor is on question. This is my motion. My motion has indicated number one. Thank you, Councillor Chang. Is there a second? Second by Councillor Cuny. Discussion. Seeing none, we'll go to vote. All those in favor, motion to please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. That brings us to a 4.02 request to accept the Beverly East Administration grant for the SAP paper and TWT extension project and XC contracts for construction with engineers construction Inc. and construction inspection services of Coil, Tannin, Associates, budget neutral, and then fiscal year FY23 report budget. Quick summary of this, Nick. Sure, this is a relatively simple, as it pertains to, again, extending the taxiway called Taxiway Goal further to the south. This is closest to the Wilson Road properties in expanding and adding additional general aviation ramp spaces, a pretty substantial ramp area that's heated on that south border. This is over a $5 million project. You can see some of the numbers in the motion close to the $7 million mark in which the FAA is providing an additional grant to us, which we're not expecting. This is a congressional redirected spending bill from last year to build this particular ramp space. This does attach to and will be adjacent to the new beta manufacturing site, but it will be open to all general aviation aircraft and operations as no federally funded apron space can be exclusively used to any civil entity. All right, and that's it. That's about it. Great. Have the board like to proceed now. Motion on their questions. We'll take the actual motion. Thank you, sir. Second, screen the council game, discussion, screen the mayor will vote. Others favor the motion, please say aye. Aye. There goes motion carries unanimously. That brings us to airport number three, which is my excellent request to execute in contract with the structure of McFarland-Johnson Inc. for the setting preliminary design and permitting of the Burlington Technical Center. So this is a step forward with the important part of it. High school, BTC replacement plan. Anything else you want to add about the second? That's essentially what it is right now as part of the scope of work is just to help the school district identify and incite the proper locations for their new facilities for not just the aviation technical program, but all of the other programs that potentially fit in there as long as it's conforming to some of the FAA regulations, which we have really great options out there right now. The only thing that I would add is there is just shy of $700,000 in the airport cash account that came from a prior year mark, just about a decade ago. That is reserved specifically with this project so we can help this school district right away even before and as they get some of their documentation in place, including that $10 million earmark that we've heard about. This allows us to not just cite it, but hopefully start something design work. That's what, that's what the next step is. Super excited to get this place done for there. Thanks. Thank you. I have a more like generous questions. Documenting all the supports, the cities, well, and the school districts about the process. Documenting, it's available to any requests, maybe please. It's a good point, Kester-Jane, we should make sure it's all collected in one place. This $678,000, getting the kids just for work. This was from an earmark through NASA in the fiscal year's 12 and 13, I believe. It is cash, it is in the cash account of the airport. And it must be used for high school level education. Kind of curious why we had this number one. It's funny. Say it again. It's a good share of the bank. It's a good share of the bank. Thanks. It's a large amount of money, but not a big deal. And it is. So during those previous years, 12 and 13, there were initial concepts and designs that were doing the aviation technical center building. The grant or the earmark at that time was only for this particular, or this is when it's left of the particular, not nearly enough to build a 25,000 square foot facility. So over that decade period of time, there was no additional funding to move this project forward. So outside of my time there has been, there were decisions made to hold that cash reserve account or whatever, whatever next steps we come forward at, which now is the time to actually build the building up the street. And thankfully, so this, I think will give us a head start on not just the siting of the building, but at least with the design of the apartment, into the site. There were some minor restrictions associated with that, that particular cash, and it did flow through different entities, including the school district and eventually back to the city and to the airport. And those restrictions really had to do at high school to ensure that the motion can break in. I'm happy to make the motion as you recommended. If I can answer Jen, for the discussion. So I'm a little bit of a vote on this. I'm fair in the motion. If they say, I, I have those motion carries unanimously. Finally, I'm for the end of the agenda. We go 4.04, request to execute a contract for construction of the Tegens Engineering Group, Inc. for the design of Permian North Concourse Replacement Project and budget neutral member for this year in the 2023 budget. So again, this is another Congressional Directive spending possibility. This is still going through legislation at the federal level with the help of the mayor's office and the mayor and of course, Senator Lay, we are on a very good track to receive this $35 million, most likely early next year. To receive the grant funding, we need to be ahead of the meeting. We need to make sure that when the FAA is, is acceptable of the design work and any element that goes into this public space of the new replacement of the terminal building. And to do that, we need to start something from the design work. This year mark is $35 million for this new facility. So moving forward with a relatively small amount to get the design moving forward of that million dollars, which is faced in the project. The full contract is not right now $4 million until we are confident that this is going through legislation. This allows us to make sure that we're not behind on an applying for the grant by the time comes right away. This is a project that is most likely going to happen over the next few years, not right away. And we're just hitting off our design work and our scope in that overall concept of this particular building. The building itself, the initial concept is to remove the fortunately existing North Conference, which is our highest capacity and least square footage that we have, which is the American Airlines and that's single United Airlines case. So it's three, four, five, and six. This will remove that small narrow hallway down there that way and replace it with a new terminal building extending to the new water floor towards the air traffic control room, allowing for a much needed capacity space for that particular airline and for others. Again, super preliminary, just kicking it off and this will allow us to make sure that we meet all of the FAA's expectations. Thank you. What is up? What's up, Paul? Thank you. I'll be in motion to move to the next slide. Thank you. Seconded by Councillor Chang for their discussion. Seeing none, we'll go to the vote. All those in favor of motion, please say aye. Aye. Very opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Leave. Thank you. Thank you. Google. 4.805 needs an authorization to update contracts to Yellwood where does he shelter community? Welcome back, Senator. Thank you. Do a quick summary of what we're doing here. Yeah, I just need to increase the maximum limiting amount on one of the site contractors, contractors who had to deal with underground storage tank. That costs money. Hopefully, we're hoping to get a lot of reimbursed from the petroleum cleanup fund but what is not the reverse will come out of the conditions. So just an authorization to increase that maximum limiting amount on this company. And people should walk right out. Shelters are there. What's the option? Yeah, it's my setting. People have been by recently this morning. Surface. There's 25 shelters. 25 shelters will be a communication only account. As I'm already going to have a volunteer to offer opportunities and community is being invited to talk about something that's going to last all week. And it's been there. And we're like to proceed. We're ready for a motion. So let's go ahead. So I was just wondering why how we don't let go better than you may expect on that side. Just a varied like a desktop review study because the majority were not doing a lot of work underground on the site. So we just did it like in terms of a phase of environmental review. We just did a desktop review that didn't reveal anything. It was an unknown story as honestly phase one had found it anyway. And it was our last trench that we were digging. So we hadn't done a false study. I mean, I just went to the memo but I discovered a tank on the side. It seems that it's not. Oh yeah, sorry. It was underground. So when they were putting in the last connection from the water line to where the bath house is going to be it's about four, six feet underground. They said fuel tank, a fuel oil tank that used to be a residential tank that was buried underground for a very long time. So it had been leaking underground before. Can you tell us a little bit about the petrol oil fund? I get the petroleum cleanup fund as a state fund. So the state has money that I'm not sure exactly where it came from, but it's got to put into place in the late 80s specifically to make sure that when people find underground search tanks that they do something about it and don't just like put more dirt over it because, you know, which obviously we wouldn't do but some people do. So this is money available when you find one of these tanks to clean, it's really for removing all of the dirty soil and all the testing that goes in to make sure you've gotten it all out. So it's state funds to make sure they're taken care of. There's lots of underground oil tanks in the state of Vermont. I mean, in terms of also safety I just don't want anybody to basically turn back here to see, you know, communications. Because if you don't do that, the problem will start. Yeah, and yeah, that's not an issue. And in terms of safety going forward it will now be monitored by the State Department of Environmental Conservation of safety. The asphalt is a very good cap, literally in figure, you know, there's a term that makes sure that nothing is coming out. And actually when you couldn't really smell the oil when they were actually removing that soil but all that dirty soil is gone now and the tank is gone, there's a clean soil and then the asphalt. So no safety issues. I'll be back to you. Thank you very much. Thank you. That's your chance. I would like to speak to you for the discussion. Seeing none, we'll go to a vote. All those appear remotely, say aye. Aye. Both. Motion carries. Yes. Thank you. 4.06, this is a great street, main street design contract, and I'm going to vote 5. You're to be welcomed. Hello. Okay, this after 20. Yep. I also know we have Director Spencer with those two boards who have our resources here with us tonight for this item. She knows that Olivia. Good to be here. Good to tell us. Yep. So we are coming to the board finance tonight as we're seeking to enter into. Hi, our primary consultant BHP. This amendment will account for some additional work to the contract, mainly the rubene sewer component, which is approved, was approved for by the voters for under the ticked on funding in March and needs to happen as part of this project. If we want to see any future development in the area, particularly on one of the super blocks at the corner of South Windy Ski and main street. So the goal of this project is to bend in that portion of the rubene sewer and I'm actually going to let Seabroy talk about that a little bit. That is one component of the amendment. The other component is contingency, additional design contingency, as well as some of the soils work that needed to be in the perking study, which is being advanced in coordination with this work as well to address some of the concerns from mainly the business community. So the city has also assigned that work to BHP to assess the perking utilization around the downtown area, the turnover, and address if there are any future facilities needed to accommodate any current or future development in the area. So, Steve, I'll let you have it to talk about the rubene sewer a little bit. Sure, thanks, Laura, is actually here for a different project. The rubene sewer, as those of you may or may not know, is a 130 plus year old sewer that there used to be a huge ravine that cut across diagonally across the city from Pearl Street all the way to the lake down near where the wastewater plant, main wastewater plant is. 130 years ago, they had put in, the city had put in all kinds of different pipe materials and buried that ravine sewer in order to build on it. And certainly, it's held up quite well, but obviously everything has a lifespan. And at some point, the ravine sewer, it's very deep. And at some point, we really need to deal with it because at some point, there's gonna be a real issue and it's not gonna be good, it's gonna be catastrophic. So, we had worked with VHB and the Dewframe Group who's a civil site engineer to look at a whole bunch of options. The number, one of the options that's been selected to carry forward in design is to actually grab the ravine sewer just behind fire station one, where it's relatively shallow, run a new pipe due south to Main Street. And since Main Street's under design as part of the Great Streets Project, run a brand new pipe heading west on Main Street, turn down church and connect all the flows that are still in the ravine sewer back into a six foot diameter pipe that's on Maple Street that heads down to the wastewater plant. So that will effectively take the majority of flow from the upstream areas and from what's coming down Main Street all the way up at UVM and intercept all that flow, take that load off of the ravine sewer and redirect it back down to Maple Street where it's going now. So it takes the ravine sewer and puts it back in the road and just narrowly have a lot more control over it, a lot less risk if there's concerns within the future. To speak to the budget, this is inside of the school year 23's allocation that we already had to the project. So it's not an increase to budget. It's really just an optimization to add this work to a contract. Okay, good. Thank you for that. The review, the floor is open for questions or questions. The answer is the question is about the DPW commission. I think we'll give it an update. Next time, please. Yeah, the DPW commission doesn't have, to my knowledge, authority over the wastewater ravine. They mostly oversee the parking and traffic regulations. So the commission hasn't seen the ravine sewers alternative yet. The internal siting that Steve mentioned has been mostly internal. And so with this contract and this work, we can then start putting the public outreach together that we've done for the rest of Main Street. Even with the help, though it's just one of the example and you're still presenting. Yes, and we tentatively will be going in front of them in November to start talking about the parking study that is underway. Sorry, sorry for the question. Trust me. I will be very, very, very, second-of-a-way and personal follow-up. For discussion, see number of vote. All of the favor of motion to say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. It's the recognition of the council session. I'm going to add two. I mean, it's following items. By point, one is request for approval to execute a contract for underwater the construction inspection, cleaning and repair services. That was it. And Steve was reporting. Steve, do you want to give us a quick summary of that? Sure, thank you, Mr. Mayor. We have water intake pipe out in the lake. We have wastewater outfall pipe in the lake. We also have a number of crossings of the Nuske River for sewer that goes from the New North End to the North wastewater plant at the very end of North Avenue. Historically, we've had it inspected by a local diver and a friend that would go through and take a look at all these pipes for us. But we've come to a realization that both these gentlemen are fairly old now, first of all and second of all, there is a liability, right? Having it done by a couple of local divers. So we put together an RP for commercial divers to give us a price to do the work. We ended up getting three proposals back. The local one is MNK diving. And if you looked at the information there, you could see they're a whole lot less expensive than the other two commercial diving companies that are from out of state. MNK is in North Claren and Ramon just south of Rutland. So, and we've done work with them and we've vetted them out, we asked for clients and we've checked them all out. So our request here is to authorize the director to sign an agreement with MNK diving to actually do inspections for a whole number of years all the way through 2026, I believe. And then for that fixed amount that they gave us and then we were asking for additional funds because we, in case that there ends up being work involved with some of these inspections. The board likes to proceed in the right direction and use our second Kester Ghee. Any further discussion, questions? Seeing none, we'll go to a vote. All those are very much to say aye. All right, any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Thanks so much. Sorry, one second. One second Steve. What was that Kester Ghee? So based on also what we just hear the DPW commission doesn't see what she was down and I was just wondering what is the CD board or commission? So we're going to be expecting some of these items that are suited to bring these items to them for a particular expense. Yeah, it's an interesting question, Kester Ghee. Chief, and are you able to speak to what degree? Can you just expand on what role the commission plays in the serious issues? Sure. We did get former attorney Bergman back in 2012 to outline the responsibilities of the commission. Some of the responsibilities which are detailed in charter and ordinance do have some oversight in water and wastewater utilities. There are some financial requirements that we approach the commission. Overall, our engagement of the commission on water and wastewater issues like around the clean water resiliency plan was done out of our effort to engage and get their input not out of an ordinance requirement. If there are specific sewerage issues that Councillor Jang or others are looking for us to address or having oversight, happy to discuss bringing that whether required or not to the commission. I am assuming that it's just the employee who's a consultant, or it's Steve. Steve is part of the city team. One of our longest serving water resources employees. 25 years, Steve. I'm in my 34th year. I'm in my 34th year. He's our secret weapon and we're going to keep him for another 34 years. Okay. Thank you, Councillor Jang. We've got the final item tonight. Thank you, Steve and Kevin. Sorry to be off my nine years there, Steve. I lost track of my security. Certificate signing the tally there. Thank you guys for being here tonight. 5.02 is a contract with Mod State Police for police details, police presence in downtown. Chief Murad is zooming in as well. And Chief, maybe you could do just I guess I'll say a couple of words on this just to kick things off, but you cannot do it the disroys. As the council's aware, we've had reviews. We've had a partnership with the state police on several occasions over the recent months where they have provided officers in the downtown following last, I think it's two weeks ago now, the shooting incident, the fire incident and seeing all park. I asked the chief to look into work with the state police on further expanding those patrols for at least a 30 day period of time. And the chief made that request to Colonel Birmingham and it was accepted by the state and now had this new details have begun. Chief, can you add any more detail about just how these details are working? Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. They are being taken voluntarily by the VSP. These are voluntary details. The request to the Colonel was for high visibility, violence prevention patrols and the understanding is that they would not be answering E911 calls for service. They would be conducting high visibility, violence deterrence patrols in Burlington's downtown. And at the end of the 30 days, they would, we would assess whether or not further patrols are needed and or possible or feasible. The Vermont state police is experiencing its own staffing challenges. And therefore the idea of having this continue indefinitely is not necessarily in the cards. This is a one month contract for the time being, the amount that you see is predicated on attendance that has already not been achieved. So we're already below that amount as a maximum in that we've had, I believe, a total of four troopers who have deployed on these details. I'd have to confirm that for sure, but we certainly haven't had the nominal ability to have had, let's see, it would have been four times four. So we have not had that number. These shifts are divided into four hour blocks and they are, they're given us very specific area in which they are to give foot patrol with minimal vehicle patrol. That area is essentially the bricks of the marketplace and city hall park and city hall park is understood to be the focus. Thank you. Four is open for questions. What would be the paying mechanism to the state? Is it by do or run movement procedure or just execute the contract and pay for it and if people are available to come, they're available, if they're not, they're not. Go ahead. Sure. We're only going to pay for the services they use. That is correct. We get billed and we are paying both for the hours they work and for the travel time they incur. And so it is, I'm pulling it up right now. I apologize for not having had it ready immediately. It is understood that they will bill us for those and we will pay it. And I do confirm how many people are coming in and coming out. We're going to pay for the services they use. We're going to pay for the services they use. We give them radios. So they have to report here at one North Avenue. They take one of our encrypted radios. In order to do the footpost and then they return it. We have an idea of them being out there. We want to know that they are there. Again, they are, they take that radio not because they're going to answer radio calls for service, but because they need to have a radio for safety in order to call assistance. And so what we're going to do is, Hey, we just had a larceny at, at honey road. Will you go handle that trooper presumably a trooper on the corner is going to address that and maybe be called in, but it's probably then going to call a Burlington police officer to actually handle that because that's not in their mandate. But obviously if honey, if somebody from honey road leans out the door and says, there's a person in here throwing dishes or that person just ran out of the car, they're going to take action. What they're not going to do is be deployed from the corner of church in Maine, where we know them to be up to, I don't know, to Halverson's where there is a dispute. A Burlington police officer is going to go do that. Will they be using like state vehicles and also dressing down with the state uniforms or. They will be in, they have been in, they have been in the state of Vermont state troopers have take home cars. And that is part of their travel time is that they are, is, is in a, they are in a trooper vehicle. So in some ways Burlington is not only supplementing downtown, we're also nominally supplementing their travel time because they're, they are enforcing during that time. So if a trooper lives in St. John's in St. Johnsbury and drives here from there and catches a couple speeders on the way over Burlington is paying for those traffic jams. But they come in a green and gold trooper car. They are wearing their green and gold trooper uniforms and they are under the command of troopers. They are, they remain employees of the Vermont state police. They remain indemnified by the Vermont state police. This is a something they do with other municipalities. It is what we would all call a paid detail in the policing profession. We do it as well in Burlington. So for example, if a hobby Zedek is having a, you know, if they want a police officer present for the Holy days, they will pay the Burlington police officers association money. That money, the bulk of it goes to the officer, a very small portion of it goes to the BPOA and a small portion goes to Burlington because we own the equipment they are wearing, the uniform they are wearing, the vehicle in which they arrive, but the officer gets that money as part of a paid detail. And that is a similar function that we have here. Thanks for making this helpful. Thank you, Councillor. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor. Any other questions here before I go to Councillor Berman. Councillor McGee. Thank you. Can you, the four troopers that have accepted shifts so far. Can you describe how it's been one per. So if we had four, four days that this contract has been utilized so far. That is correct. The shifts are these Wednesdays and Thursdays. There is a four hour block from 4pm to 8pm and from 8pm to midnight. On Friday and Saturday, there are four hour blocks from 8pm to midnight and from midnight to 4am. I believe only the earlier shifts have thus far been accepted, although I don't know that for sure. I'm also, I can't marry myself to exactly four. I believe there have been four troopers that have come through. I did not get that precise information yet. That's partly part of the billing process. But they, they have come in and to my knowledge, they have been solo officers on post each time. Initially we had talked about not allowing it to happen unless they came in pairs. But that we dispensed with that. And, you know, you could have as many as four per four hour shift, but we have not achieved that. Sure. And do you get any sort of advanced notice from the state police? I understand it said there's a portal that they're allowed to accept shifts through, but you wouldn't get a notice at a time. No, I don't. I mean, I got an advanced notice on the very first day because we were, we were actually working the contract through as, as a trooper was driving to us. So we were, you know, we were, we were working the contract through. We were working the contract through. We were working the contract through. I knew that a trooper was coming at that time. But on a daily basis, I don't get it. I do know, for example, I hear on the radio that dispatch tells the supervisor, there's a trooper in the lobby looking for a radio. So I hear that come over if I happen to hear it, but I don't, I don't get a specific detail list of it until I get the bill. But I do, I have, but I supervisors know that they come in with those. So I'm not a burden to a certain person who's in the city, but, I'm just, I'm not a burden to a certain person. Just knowing that somebody's down at the corner. Okay. And does that? Change the deployment plan depending on who shows up for a particular chef. It doesn't. It doesn't affect our deployment at all. This is entirely augmentation to our deployments. Thank you. Yeah. Council member. Thank you. making this initiative. I appreciate this is something that I thought I should have been done when we started it a while ago. So that's the first thing. I don't have a vote tonight in the finance board, but if I had a vote, I would vote in favor of this. I also would like to hear more, not necessarily tonight, about collaboration with the UVM police department and there's a way to augment. And I know that there have been some conversations, but I think that the partnerships that you've been talking about in building are critically important. And they go with an all of the above approach that includes getting at the source of much of our disorder, be it mental health or drug addiction or poverty reduction. So I wanna take the opportunity to thank the mayor for your comprehensive statement or newsletter or whatever you call it on public safety. I look forward to part two. And I think that people need to hear that. I was the last point I wanted to make, I was actually surprised that the commission, according to co-chair Saguino was not informed of this. I take that from the digger article on that. And so without going backwards, because that doesn't do us any good. I just want to say that I truly believe that this collaboration should be discussed with the commission. It should be used, that should be a vetting process. Lessons should be learned with that. And particularly if we're gonna be evaluating it in a month, this is totally appropriate. It's appropriate to see how the different locales or jurisdictions deal. We've got different policies and procedures. We've got our own directives. They have their own. So this is important as we try to grapple with transformation and transformation and civilian oversight for this to be a piece of that and not separate and apart. So I want to encourage you to bring this and have the conversations about the operational details and their relations with the policies and procedures more fully with them. And I think that is it. So I can say, I'm sorry, with regard to your question about UVM, just not to dive into it too deeply, UVM is very short staffed right now as well. They certainly do help when we have incidents. We had a UVM officer who was doing the crime scene log at our most recent murder scene. We had a UVM officer who assisted two UVM officers who assisted at our officer involved shooting in August. UVM officers who have responded to the incident in which a former city council person was struck at Roosevelt Park. UVM officers do respond as mutual aid, rather mutual aid regularly when we have those kinds of incidents. I am opening this same detail. I'm gonna be informing. Normally we have a Chittenden County law enforcement executives meeting on Thursdays. This one has been postponed. It was scheduled for this coming Thursday. It's been postponed, but I am sending around to the participants an offer to have this same deal expanded to them. I don't know whether or not we will get much in the way of participation, but we're looking for that kind of additional assistance, basically the same model as the BSP. So that is one thing that we're working on. Thank you. UVM used to do patrols in the Green Street area as part of the Neighborhood Action Project before the mayor was elected when I was still a young assistant, a city attorney. They are still allowed. They are eligible to sign up for our Hill Section details. We have not had any signups for that detail in about two years. UVM, because it's understaffed and officers because they feel, frankly, that the university was quick to not want them around in the summer of 2020 and then suddenly wanted them again and they just don't sign up for it. Okay. Well, persistence will pay off, I'm sure. It's posted down there. The sheets are there for them to take. Okay. Thank you. And I truly do think that the collaboration with the commission is essential. So I appreciate Councilor Jang's conversations regarding that and DPW and it's sort of in the same light. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Berger. It's a pleasure to be here. Front Councillor Neill. I'll follow up. Echo, Councilor Bergman's comments about involving the police commission and also to just ask that if any other area agencies do accept an offer to post additional shifts But we're made aware of that just so we know what other law enforcement agencies could potentially be operating in the city. I think. Yes, any question I have bears sort of what the command structure looks like and who are each of these officers. Still, under the command of the agency that they came from or did they answer to brilliant so they're taking this until ships troopers troopers working under the parameters of this contract will coordinate their patrols with the Burlington Police Department while maintaining Vermont State Police chain of command. And that's going to be the same. Roughly the same agreement that goes out to other local agencies. Yes, no agency would place its people under some other entities command. Thank you. Thank you. I don't have a question I appreciate the comments that all of me appreciate the comments that Council member this made. I think I just would just comment on the fact that I think it is absolutely essentially important that we approve this, and it will send a message not only to our constituents for the community is a whole that we hear them. And we understand that they are on a stronger presence than we are currently able to give them the number of officers we have to provide. I also hope that this sends a message to others that, you know, Burlington welcomes that presence. You know, accountability is incredibly important. Good officers are also important and hopefully maybe even I hate to say they will maybe leave and snag a few of them. But, you know, whether we do or we don't, this I think is a is a good step forward so I hope that this will receive our strong support. Thank you President Paul appreciate the strong support there and agrees. Thank you very much for the opportunity for first take action by the public very much as many. And serve. I don't believe that. I'm happy to make the motion as recommended more jobs. Thank you for some policy to my counselor Jang. I know the comments regarding the commission as well. I do think the sort of general. I think that's why I'm here for the administration to be working with the commission on policing issues is one that we. I agree with and that's why I meet with that commission uniquely every month, and we are trying to do that. I do think that there are operational details that are appropriate or pragmatic to be able to to fully involve the commission on the one for example, this is something to try to move from beyond and situation with the city can move beyond the circumstances he said I also have some concern was that I just didn't respond to it in a moment, but I guess I sort of come up again I will make a point here. I don't play every with the idea that was mentioned by previously that we should expand the commission role to be reviewing all job descriptions, something that has not been a commission that we've very clearly had that not part of this commission or other commission reviews. I think that's something that's been asked something that's been held that's been handled through through the administration and the council like the commission's wing and at the strategic level. You know, if we are going to look to revisit certain policies that's certainly a discussion that will keep having so I just want to note that I've heard it don't fully agree with it all but I do agree with the you know I don't want my silence to be that I fully agree with all that but we can certainly keep talking about this issue. With that, very further discussion on contract. Seeing no vote all those a favorite motion please say aye. Opposed motion carries unanimously. Did that. There's no objection or finance is adjourned at 6.05pm.