 All right, if you're able to stand please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. All right is there a motion to prove the minutes from our last meeting? Any conversation seeing none all those in favor please state aye. The objection, chair votes aye. That item is approved. First item on the itinerary is item number four application for conditional use with exceptions by Seneca capital partners to create a new mobile home lot in the Indian Meadows mobile home park located at 3636 South Business Drive. Steve take it away. All right sounds good mayor Matt Stevens is here from Cedar Corporation and he's representing Seneca capital partners who's the owner of Indian Meadows mobile home park and there's when we get the site plan on the screen you'll see that this is a 70 acre mobile home park that presently has 292 residential sites located off of South Business Drive just to the south of Sheboygan Chevy and Chrysler. Basically what they're looking at this is phase five at the what would be the kind of the West and Southwest areas Southwest Northwest areas there's a section of property that is available for development so if you look that area if you found the screen in the arrow this is the area that we're speaking of right here that you can see is still left for new units to be put in so the applicants looking to install 24 units in that area the home sizes are expected to be either 16 by 76 or 24 by 48 and management intends to install three to five spec homes which will either be sold for new residents to occupy or used to order homes for new residents that want upgraded features and management will control placement of the homes to ensure that same colors and same elevations do not end up next to each other if you would mind if you would go to the pictures there's some top soil piles and stuff there's a couple of top soil piles and I'm sure Matt can speak to these that are presently located in the site and probably have been taken over there over the years as the site was developed as part of this area those top soil piles would either be removed some from the site or used for some of the grading so those and and I'm sure you can talk to that a little bit more better than I can other questions the the plant commission may want to ask of the applicant as expected time frames as far as the development anything about the homes or features and there's just one guard rail I think Chad I don't know if we can get maybe just a very end picture just there's a guard rail over by a playground that looked to be damaged and just want to make sure that that was you know completed and fixed in in in that area so it looks like it's by a playground and by the streets and the other side looks good but we'd want to make sure that that gets addressed as well so other than that staff is recommending approval of the project the applicants here and I don't know I don't think there's anyone on the phone for this one any additional comments from the applicant I don't really have anything specific the existing park that is there it would be expanded with 24 lots we've designed a stormwater management facility on the north end of the proposed development there'll be a approximately 250 foot cul-de-sac that would be constructed with this project but other than that the majority of the the new lats front on the existing roads out there sanitary sewer and water main will need to be extended to serve these properties as the existing sanitary sanitary sewer and water main are located on the opposite side of the existing road behind existing properties so we'll be extending sanitary sewer and water main with this also awesome good to see you guys maximizing that space over there sure additional questions from blank mission members Ryan yeah oh two things what about the top-soil pile and what is the time frame for construction the soil piles that are out there right now they they were a lot larger a year ago and the meantime since we started working on the design of it we first designed to use all the soil out there with this phase and build up the land and property out there because we couldn't find anyone that that had a use for the soil so in the meantime we found the contractor that had a use for it there was one pile of clay and one pile of topsoil we applied for grading and erosion control permit and had that started to be removed that the contractor wanted to leave enough out there just to make sure that there was enough material to build up the pads and the new cul-de-sac so that material will be hauled out if it's not needed there's a good chance that not much of it will be needed for this phase so it will be hauled out time frame it will be probably within the next couple months it depends on contractors and availability of pipe and manholes and valving and hydrants supplies the there's a long lead time on all that information or all the product right now so I would see within the next couple months construction beginning thank you Steve one of the conditions of approval just does talk about the topsoil piles that they're removed from the site are used to stabilize so that's just one of the things that is part of the conditions of approval additional comments questions concerns motions motion and second all those in favor state aye anyone opposed chair votes aye that's proved thank you great thank you for your time all right next is application for conditional use and sign permit with exceptions by Blair image to install a new dress for less wall signage at 518 South Taylor Drive Steve thanks mayor and there's a representative here for Ross as well so what we're taking a look at is this is the redevelopment of the old shop go one of the things that's happening is the tenant spaces the store has been split in half and the square footage of the signage allowed is 1.5 square feet for each lineal foot of wall length on that wall so on this particular wall they have a little bit less square footage and so they're asking to install its individual letters interior lit it's approximately the maximum permitted is 185 square feet and Ross is proposing 291 square feet and so when you look at that and you look at some of the photos and things like that you'll see that what they're proposing fits the size of the new yeah there you go so that picture so that's the construction of what's taking place there and that signage will fit in that centerpiece of that photo and so to adequately get the signage they feel to Taylor Drive in the intersection that eerie that they're looking for the signage staff is not objecting to this they're asking for the variants to have this size it appears to fit well with the entrance and the design of the new building the exterior remodeling so staff was recommending approval subject to the conditions you have before you and the applicants here if he has any additional comments there may be someone on the phone if by chance that's working any anything else like dad not really there was a Corey president who is gonna also talk about the world development yeah it's gonna I don't know on the phone great it's the developer okay go go ahead yes so I just wanted to take a moment to talk holistically about the plan of entirely development we've got a few different applications that before you today and I just wanted to just speak to you know sort of the master plan that we did think this through from the beginning of this entire shop the redevelopment with you know I see the two the hobby lobby and the raw stress bless revamping the monument sign which you'll hear about a little bit later to improve that as part of the rest of the investment into this project and then additional out parcel development as well so I just wanted to make sure that understood that yeah there's a larger context to the overall plan for this and in addition to the initial you know are these individual applications you've been careful to make sure this is a best-in-class redevelopment with you know a result that will be proud of and it's akin to other similar projects throughout the country where these tenants and their trade dress you know adds value to the community so I just wanted to say that I'm available for any questions too if there's any questions holistically on project as we go on the individual applications so thank you cool thanks Corey we appreciate it this is the mayor just want to say thanks for the investment and given this area a little love so I know our planning director Chad has some questions as well Corey this is Chad Peleshek and my question for you is well so as you can imagine we field a ton of questions every day as to when these are these two are opening up and we were led to believe that it was going to happen sometime in October do you have an update on Hobby Lobby and Ross dress for less that you could share with us sure yeah so Ross dress was certainly is now ahead of Hobby Lobby Hobby Lobby just slotted this in a little differently on their schedule we're feverishly we saw the photos trying to get through destruction effort in this day and age which is quite the challenge with you know supply chain costs and everything else it's been a difficult process but we are trying to get done August 20 nights our date that we're looking to get done by you know we're pressing for it Ross desperately wants to open this year that's the intent to have them open in October and Hobby Lobby it looks they just have too many stores for this year so it looks like they're going to be early 2023 they shouldn't be starting their instruction and earnest within the next week or two they've got to build out everything for them inside and so they don't like opening December for obvious reasons for retail so it'll be sometime early 23 awesome thank you questions from commission members motions for this item I'll second that motion second any additional comments all those in favor of state hi any opposition share votes I that item is approved next we have looking for you guys to open too yeah because pretty soon cool application for condition use and sign permit with exceptions by Blair image to install I just did that one sorry I didn't cross it off application for conditional use and sign permit with exceptions by creative sign to install new multi-tenant pylon sign for growth of development located at 5 18 so Taylor Drive Steve all right thanks mayor I think there might be a representative from creative sign that might be on the line as well as Corey Presnick from court of development so one of the things that we're looking at as part of the overall design of the area was the pylon sign that's presently there and you can see in the picture the small show photo of what's there now with the shop go on the Taco Bell and so with the redevelopment the idea from the developer was to try to sense their enhancing and remodeling the exterior of the building was tight trying to incorporate some pilot new pylon signage a little bit taller about 20 feet in height but then to allow for the tenants of the facility to to instead of having their own free standing signs to be all on this one pylon sign and somewhat similar to some that you see at festival and Meyer and so so it's on that Taylor Drive corridor thought that it made sense to have them all on one they spoke about this at the redevelopment you can see that there's the decorative cap that matches the decorative cap of the building some of the brick on the pylon so they've really tried to tie the sign itself from a design perspective with that of the building so and the reason that there's the variances that for this is because technically the pylon sign is on the Taco Bell property which is a different ownership but quartered development and the Taco Bell property and the Applebee's have a reciprocal easements allowing for access signage and other things and so that agreement was amended to allow for the sign to continue to be located in approximately the same area but with this new design so from a staff perspective we felt that this was a match much more attractive looking sign and we're recommending approval with the conditions you have before you thanks to you director poll check maybe you know this question answers Steve but why is there four slots on the sign I'm guessing two are the tenants in shop code one is Taco Bell and is it the third tenant that could be in the building yeah I think Cory maybe if you wouldn't mind addressing that one I didn't know if one of the existing if if what Applebee's situation was or Jiffy Lou but maybe you could address that for us Sure, yeah Chad the intent would be to have the new out bar school which you'll hear about Jiffy Lou and take that fourth panel on that sign so it'd be probably on top we're all second Bell third questions from commission members or anyone else motions move to approve subject to staff recommendations question second all those in favor any objections chair of outside that item is approved next is item seven application for conditional use with exceptions by Guggenheim development services LLC to construct and operate a new Jiffy Lou at the newly created parcel directly south of Applebee's in the former shop go parking lot Steve all right Jason day is here from Excel engineering representing Guggenheim not sure if there's anyone from Guggenheim development services on the line and then Cory Presnick continues to remain on the line as developer of the overall of the site so what we're taking a look is when the shop go redevelopment for Hobby Lobby yep came in one of the things that the city had approved at that time was to create that was one parcel where you can see lot two and lot one and so basically what they did was a certified survey map to create lot one at the south east corner of the property and this is where Jiffy Lou is looking to construct their facility that facility presently is parking lot of the shop go so you can kind of see at this point yeah right in that area and so that is the area that's being looked at by Jiffy Lou to construct a 3,000 square foot single story automotive service center that would provide maintenance automobiles including oil change battery brakes engine filters fluid suspension inspection tires location was selected due to South Dailer Drive being a heavily traveled commercial corridor with through the city with excellent visibility and access store hours are going to typically be eight to seven Monday through Friday nine to five Saturday and Sunday hours each store employs one manager one to two assistant managers and six to eight additional employees and the proposed timeline is on March April 2023 start with an anticipated completion date of September 23 new building with parking landscaping signage and utilities access to the development is through that reciprocal access agreement that we previously spoke about for the signage between the properties in this area the applicant has indicates that there will be building sign sign signage and a pylon sign obviously I don't know if they knew at the time that they'd be looking at the pylon sign as an opportunity but staff would be recommending that if any type of freestanding sign was to be on this property that it would be a monument style sign so that's one of the conditions of approval they're looking for a couple of variances exceptions one is just to have the paving setback of zero feet again this property line of butts that the existing traveling so with those reciprocal easements they all share this and the other is to request from the locational landscaping requirements plant commission may want to have that can address the following just to verify that that access and utility agreement between the parties has been completed I believe it has but I'm sure Mr. President could talk about that but staff was recommending approval of the conditional use permits subject to the conditions you have and the architecture review board did review the structure at last night's meeting and approve that as well good question anything else that you look at no Jason do with Excel engineering Steve does a good job as always and I know there's a lot of information in the in the staff report that's given out to everybody I'll just comment on just the the shared access and utility agreements those will be worked through prior to closing of the property which will be coming up and we can provide any of those documents as needed for a city record if required other than that I can answer any questions that you guys might have I believe Kurt Overmire is on the phone as well with Guggenheim around virtually and he would be available for for questions as well I guess I just have a question just to kind of keep the conversation I guess what was just the impetus you know I'm all for outlawed development especially this is an area that we want to give a lot of love to so I appreciate the step forward on developing just this area so I'm just curious what the impetus was for another kind of facility in auto mechanic shop such as Jiffy Lou as well I just there's some perception that we might have a lot of these already in the city so I guess I didn't know if if you had a comment or if anyone online just wanted to fill in if they had any study or information that they just had that justified their their their decision to kind of pull the trigger on this development mm-hmm I know what Jiffy Lou they do market studies and they do site visits and they do original tours for these types of developments and they picked their sites carefully and I know this was a highly sought-after site I'm current with Guggenheim I don't know if you can hear yes I don't know if you want to add anything to that just adding on to what you said Jason Jiffy Lou does do a fairly extensive demographic analysis market research they've had Boygan is target market for some time and this particular site redevelopment for Hobby Lobby and Ross was that was a huge plus in addition the traffic count and the family income and population everything point to this site is being really fitting in with their program Chad Corey could you address the outreach that you did as a developer to try to find other uses for this site nothing nothing against Jiffy Lou but you know I think what everyone's looking to you know ideally there would have been a food user potentially as part of this this out of development and we certainly did our diligence extensively to outreach all you know the names the brands that you know be accreted to the community unfortunately this the axis wasn't quite strong enough for some of the board boardroom type folks to approve at some of the bigger name brands of quick service restaurants you know just being a little off the street just a little off the mark for convenience based where it's more oh I want to stop over here it ended up lending itself more to a destination type of service which Jiffy Lou fits work pretty well so yeah that's the color we certainly you know we work with Chad trying to try to bring some you know what the city would like to see but fortunately just market did not cooperate with us on this one I think this is a great addition to the community just you know purchase question just want to give that color I appreciate that that context that's really good Corey thank you other comments from folks motions from folks motion second any other comments seeing none all those in favor state aye any objection share votes aye that item is approved thank you thank you everybody next meeting August 9th all those in favor of joining state I take ejection we're adjourned at 424