 another fact agenda tonight so hopefully we'll be able to move things fairly quickly here the first item on the agenda is going to be the shelter bright view continued review of changes so this is what just as a reminder this is what we started to take a look at at the last meeting this is with respect to some different changes that were made to the as built and David you want to come on up and introduce yourself and anyone else so we wanted to do was follow-up from our meeting two weeks ago with a handful of additional discussion items that we wanted to address and I'm going to let Tatya go through those things but I'm going to give you just a quick overview from my perspective from our last meeting there we went through a number of elevation changes which I think generally speaking everyone got a comfort level with what we were doing we wanted to come back and address particularly some landscaping issues and then some issues around the parking and the lighting I have five items from following up from our last meeting the last two I want to leave to the end which relate to the the parking snow storage and the lighting that package if you will what I'd like to do is go through all of them and let Katya explain the changes we're making the proposed changes we made from our last set of plans and then if there's some satisfaction with that great if there's not I think we have a couple of additional solutions around the parking and around the snow storage that we can absolutely explore if that meets meets the discussion all right so the list that I have is the greening or the greenery landscaping around the courtyard drop-off area that's item one item two will stay in that area which is the the stamping of the asphalt drop area at the entry and the connection to the island so that's number two number three on the rear of the building relates to the landscaping around the exhaust of the generator and then four and five relate to the snow storage and the parking slash lighting impact okay so those are the items we want to walk through and I'll let you go through some of the detail of those especially first three items great all right if I stand up you can stand okay you maybe don't want to block that okay one of the points into that the plans you have include the approved plan from a couple years ago the plan where we were two weeks ago in addition to that I want to hand out some existing conditions pictures of the retaining wall Christine suggested that I print out some existing conditions photos I think on the second page is a photo montage showing the proposed plantings as depicted also on the plan in the plan view there of course photo representation so they show the green growth and this here we are in the winter there's no grass shown at the ground thing etc so it's a little bit different than reality and on the last page there's a section showing the proposed planning detail so the first item that David said we'd be speaking about is the greening up between the approved plans and now as you know the retaining wall has shifted a little bit closer to the building and the drop off circle had to be shifted as well the parking spaces within that drop off had to be moved so what we're doing here is adding back some of the green that we lost we had lost three crab apple trees around here and we are now in this plan showing the ability to add back one of those three trees by shifting the curb the parallel parking space here can still be accessed by code because a 20 by 8 foot or 9 foot space feels and Thomas located the proposed curve is shown in the plan so that people can still get in and out of that parallel space so we have added back another crab apple in addition to that I'm showing a grouping I bought like what a road to Denver and then a number of spirea bonada and funny waters shrubs at the base of the retain wall pink on this plan some other shade shady kind of shrubs at the base of the walk here road to Denver in some clever and then a variety of vines at the top and bottom the bottom some Virginia creeper which can clean the wall climb up at the top a combination of a shrub called Stefanandra which drapes down and cascades down walls quite nicely some juniper horizontalist kind of real low evergreen shrub they will also break down and some clematis virginiana which is a native clematis vine which might fall somewhat down the wall but I thought could also grow up grow up along the picket fence that's on top and beyond in the section on the last page you could see how that might work with the existing retaining wall blocks have a voice within them which if you remove some of the crushed stone have you replaced with planting mix planted within that void and there's additional soil layer at the top of the retaining wall there's no capstone per se so the soil layer will help allow those roots to grow and spread across the top soil layer so it's not just the little voids in the wall where the fence can grow and have the root system I think the root system can spread on top of it. Can I just clarify I want to be sure I understand the March 25th this is what you're describing right now. That's what's here. That's what's proposed in the March 25th list. Thank you. Some of the other changes or suggestions? Are you done explaining what we're doing in the courtyard area? Yes I think what we're doing is expanding some of the green space at the base of the wall and adding a lot of greenery to the top and bottom of the wall. I guess my question before is do you want to discuss any of the points that Katya is raising in our proposal and questions and to just meet the satisfaction of the ever of my last meeting on this point. Well I think this point and the fifth point kind of coincides I correct so I think that's the one thing I'll say but I'll let them fire away. I'll defer to Kristina. Well Katya and I spoke off-line while she was developing this plan and I'm happy to see that she's incorporated a lot of the things we talked about so that the parking space has gotten a little bit smaller which is good and that's allowed a larger island there for planting so that'll help because we can add another tree in there that's going to help screen the wall a little bit. My objection last time was the view of that very exposed wall so I think you've done a lot to try to mitigate that. You have vines coming down, you have vines coming up, you've planted quite a bit more along the top and taken away the layer of crushed stone that was up there and replaced it with soil so I think all in all you've tried to mitigate the fact that the wall had to shift a little bit and tightened up that space. Jake explained last time the pinning of the wall was quite technical and that was difficult to keep the same spacing that you had before so now the top is a little bit wider at the sidewalk than it used to be so the public has a little bit more width which is nice but I think you've accommodated that quite well. I'm wondering do we want to bring up headlights at this point or do we want to wait till later? I'm happy to but it sounds like you were waiting for to make your presentation before going to that. Headlights has a little bit to do with the planting. There was some concern of headlights hitting the house across the street. We were sent an email with some photos of what that looked like actually and in looking at the plantings that are there right now you've added a little plant a little bit of planting to the sign which is good that should help when all the plantings are in that should help because there's some across the entrance also. What I did notice is that that corner right across is that's a deciduous shrub and I'm wondering if those could be replaced with an evergreen or if the evergreens that are just down from there could be expanded and have another row behind that if you want to it's nice to have some deciduous because I think the rest are evergreens but the way those lights are pointing that could help through all the seasons then. That's a good suggestion. Yeah I think if you put evergreens behind and get a little bit closer to the trees maybe if you have room for that that might be one way to do it. I think you had rhododendrons there so adding five more might help. And during the layout of plants I can shift things around here the existing list here to make sure that there's some evergreens in that zone you know standing where the where they'd be car headlights. Yeah look at where the headlights are maybe check out the elevations as you're looking across and see what you're putting in there will help. Yeah it does look down a bit so I don't know how successful. Yeah so I went last night just to let you know and I parked there and when you park in that spot there is no avoiding the fact that you're high above that fence. Okay there's a real issue there as far as that parking spot is concerned with the headlights coming over. But you know that issue in looking at the photos that issue is going to be there even for cars doing the turn around. That might be the case. It's the same issue. It might be the case but it's not a parked car with their headlights on or something like that for a longer time than someone driving in and driving out. I mean who knows whether someone just parks there with their phone doing a call. I mean I know if I keep my car on the auto stays on. For me I went there last night and you know that was that was disappointing. I've also noticed that you know without the trees yet being planted along here these Tilly Cordata have a really dense foliage and I think their canopies are going to help at that elevation shining this way except in winter. Although they have a dense branching habit too. We sat in that spot for the last hour as well. But we clearly now I can see exactly what you're talking about right so we're very sensitive to it as well. And again we can propose something different but I wanted to just talk through the solution here first. When we sat there and said maybe put two or three rotodendrons there that are going up four or five feet certainly above for instance an SUV's lights that is dramatically going to take down the light that could occur by a parked car. And then beyond that is as you pointed out even though it's somewhat down slope we will have a mixture of evergreen another planting on the other side right there. So I think there's an ability to shield it if it's unsatisfactory if you think about it in all the seasons we can think about it more to discuss with you tonight but I wanted to just talk through this proposal first and see if that met. I wonder if an actual panel of a fence there wouldn't solve the problem. Right in front of where the car would be and it could be you know it could be something that you could hit and it wouldn't destroy you know something a little bit flexible. We wanted to look aesthetically please. I know I know I wanted to be out of place. That's why we want to prefer to stay with an evergreen type of material. On the plan right now I have one rotodendron and two spirae and maybe all three at the size that they'll be planted it might be better to put three rotodendron in and then eventually they're going to overgrow the space and remove one but to get the full effect of some shielding of highlights. You think you have room there to do that. Well three is a smaller it's tight. I think we should try to get them in. I think there's room for three shrubs. One large investment or one very large evergreen. Well you say one large but you've got that big street lamp right there. Oh the street light yeah I'm talking about the headlights right now. No no we're not talking about any street lights as far as lights is concerned. No I'm saying if you look at the plan if you look at the problem with one is you've got the street light right in front of the carpet car. So a lot of work would be. Well there is a bed right in front of that. There is a bed yeah. Okay I didn't think there was much room. It's tight but there is a small bit. An ability to have a relatively large rotodendron there. Again I'm not the expert but. The base of the light pole should help out. No because basically you're on either side. It's right in the middle. So the shrubs also need to be on either side I guess. That's kind of what I'm thinking. There's not much room on the left as you're facing into the light post to plan something to the left of the light post. So I think the left headlight is more of an issue than the right headlight. Right because that's where the sidewalk is. Yes. There's a rail in there for the ADA. Maybe we can ponder that and move on in the interest of time. Yeah. So the second thing we're going to. Before we do any other questions I don't want to skip Andrew and Andy before we move on on that. I mean we can come back to the discussion but. Is there anything from the. We got to look at the options here. The back plantings are much more robust also as you had mentioned at the last meeting. And I think that's good and I think that the exhaust pipe in the back. You had suggested painting it to match the building or painting it to match the vegetation depending which seems to work better. That should probably. Right. I think I think we're going to present on that next. Yeah. Sorry. Pretty much. We're going to. Stick in within the drop off quickly and then move into the exhaust. Within the drop off there was some concern that the crossing we had suggested before concrete crossing which would indicate more of a pedestrian kind of friendly area which isn't shown anymore. We were going to do a painted crosswalk. Christine suggested something like imprint and I looked into it and it looks like a street print which is a very similar kind of application of like a stamped asphalt with some color on it made to look sort of like a brick crossing. You're probably familiar with it. Downtown Boston has that uses it for crosswalks. So that's what we're suggesting in the same shape that we've had before in that broad angled almost triangular shape to connect the full width of the bollards all the way to the center island. And we were suggesting a herringbone pattern with like a border around it following the same grades that you know so that there's flush crossings at both ends. Moving. Do you want to touch on that? Yeah, why don't we stop there. I'm fine with the idea. Again, I've got it to 30% just because she lives in this world more than I do. But are you satisfied with the imprint? I am. It's red, right? You're using a red color. I don't want to get like a garish orangey red, but we'll have to find a sample that looks traditional and not lurid. I think some of the colors that come out of the paints can be as pleasing as others. Yeah, the imprint is pretty good for the colors. So you guys have decided on the street print versus the print. I don't have samples yet, so I'd like to see the samples, but I thought we were suggesting street print. Okay, street print, you know the difference right between the two. You guys know the difference? So imprint is much more expensive. It's a resin material that gets applied over top of asphalt. The asphalt can be like keyed into the edges. So you can cut out a little bit of asphalt and key it in and set it down. And it's a very thin section and then it can be stamped also. So that wears at the same rate as the bituminous around it because it's a very tough material. It almost wears slower than the bituminous around it. Street print on the other hand is a slurry that gets painted on. It'll be a higher maintenance item for you. So that they can come back in and heat up the asphalt again and stamp it even though the asphalt is already there with whatever pattern, a brick pattern, and then they come in and put the slurry down on top of that. The imprint I think they usually put sand in the cracks also. So it's just a matter of how much use you think you're going to get there. Fast walks typically imprint works better because of the truck traffic. You're probably not going to have that much traffic. As you remember, it's fairly low traffic generator anyway. So the street print is probably fine. So I think it's probably fine. I'll be absolutely honest. We haven't determined the exact methodology we're going to use here. I think the aesthetics of what we're trying to communicate. And that's the most important thing we're trying to address. But we're not to the end of saying that the imprint or the street print are some hybrid thereof. But so we're working towards that. But either one is fine. Either one's fine. But the idea is we're going to create that crosswalk experience in that entry. Yeah, I'm happy to see that back in. I did have a question when I was up there about those two concrete ballards at the entrance. If those were temporary or permanent. And I think your architect came back and said they were temporary, but he didn't answer what was going to be replacing them. If anything. I don't think anything is going into my understanding. So there's definitely two less ballards. Well, that's what I saw in the senior. I did see that. And that was true to me. I think that he and the ADA consultants are still resolving some issues around the entry. So I'm not sure if some smaller ballards maybe go back in or not. So there might be two less ballards in the entry. If you go up there today, there's these two very hard-looking concrete ballards. I was happy to see that they were temporary. And if there's two less light ballards, as long as you have enough light for safety. With the overhang. Sure, the neighbors will be happy with two less lights. Actually, they didn't have lights in them in the approved drawings. They were always going to be just unlit, same style, but unlit. Okay. Because we knew that there'd be no light under the canopy. Oh, good. I know there's comments about that area. Okay, I think they're next. Okay, next was exhaust. So in the rear, we have a great number more shrubs proposed at the top of the slope than were shown in the drawings. In addition to that, because of this generator exhaust near the top of the slope, Christina and I talked about, well, let's paint it a dark green to match whatever color evergreen trees ends up there. And what we have proposed there are Phuya, Green Giant, Arbivite. And we also spoke about creating some layering. So it's, right now, or what we had shown a couple weeks ago, were evergreen trees, some mugo pines, and some more evergreen trees to create some layering effect. We talked about maybe adding some more ornamental grasses at the top to add a third layer of interest. And that's what's shown on the plan now is 17 of anacum or switch grass at the top. To create a little bit, you know, one more level of layering in that zone. It doesn't really have so much to do with hiding the exhaust, but it's just at the top of the slope there because of our, Christine's in my discussion. They may be hard to see on the plan there. But 17 is really hard to see. There's like seven here, seven here, seven there. Okay, great. It looks like you have a white pine and a dark green arbivite there. One on the other side. Yeah, which is good. Does that'll help also? Mix it up a little bit, right. We can move on to the, oh yeah. How tall are the arbivite and green giant? Green giant. How tall are the maturity? They can get very large, like a white pine practically. 40, 50 feet. It looks like the exhaust is probably about 15 feet tall. I don't think so. I think it's more like eight or something. Eight? Yeah, okay. It's sort of standing out by itself, centering by itself right now with all the rock. And does anything happen to the grading, or what we're seeing out there right now with respect to the rock slope? Is that pretty much how it's going to look? The slope itself has the earth blanket, compost, mulch mixture applied. But the seed mix hasn't been applied. So the plantings will grow into that. At the top of the slope they'll need to be added. Planting mix? I don't believe there's planting mix. I haven't gotten this in the middle of that yet. It should be coming to approve. And then they'll place planting mix for the lawn and the shrub beds and the trees. Okay. I'm just trying to get a feel for what you observe at the site right now where I think there's like a little pit that's dug out around the exhaust pipe. Does that get filled in more to sort of offset the height of the pipe? I do believe it does get filled in at the base there. Okay. Right? And then aside from that, what I'm just saying is we'll have a mix that's coming up through there as well. Right. So we'll write up that. And then we'll have the base and then the trees. And I'll provide that around it. Okay. How many arbor v-dy are going to be planted there? Well, there's one right next to the pipe. Okay. And there's a total of two right here. There's three white pine, two arbor v-dy, three more white pine, and then there's a smattering over around the retaining wall. Okay. Katya, you also said you're going to be out there to field locate. Yes. I want to approve. Once things have arrived, I want to make sure they're all in good condition. And then once they're laid out, I want to make sure they're in the right spots. Probably before they do the holes. They don't have to do the holes twice. Maybe probably stake them in with a, I mistake them with the annotations that I can tell where they intend to put things and I can tell if that's the right spot for right buffering and screening. So you can make sure you maximize the screening as much as possible. Seems like from down here, it's the most concerned, the view from coming up summer. I mean, since... I think so, yeah. I think even the view off of Summer Street was mentioned. From here? Yeah. Yeah. Depending on the location, I don't think we can get a tree in front and like on the slope side of the... That's where the color is. Yeah, the color. Yeah. Hopefully it'll look like another tree trunk. Yeah. Right now it's got that really metallic aluminum around it. So it's very reflective. Yeah. Will you be able to leave this with the boards? Sure. Okay. For kind of this, some of this didn't get printed out. There's like a, there's something missing here. Get some cheese or something. Okay. Can you plant, you can't plant on the rock slope, right? Not larger items. We're planting the seed mix, yeah. Yeah. At this point. Do you think you filled in as much as you can around it so that it will kind of hide the appearance of the pipe? I think we'll, we'll, we'll take the plantings we have here and do what we can to maximize the screening from those locations. I don't think we can change the slope any to be able to plant in front of that anymore. Okay. Carol, anything else? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So our last couple of items had to do with the van parking over here and snow storage in general. At the van parking spot, there had been nine Messer of Holly proposed along the parking space and this one street tree next to the parking space. There's an existing street light next to the sidewalk, which apparently reflects light off the top of the van, because it has a white, you know, it's a white top van. The van's white. And it shines into the neighbor's houses. So what we've done is replaced those nine Messer of Holly with three more Arborvite. And it's going to be a little bit of a squeeze, in addition to the metal leaf linden. I think the combination of all of that vegetation should help reduce that reflective light coming off the top of the van. And as far as snow storage, we have increased a little bit the capability for snow storage here. And we've been talking about the idea that in the winter when there is a large storm event, these parking spaces might be used as snow storage. Okay. I wanted to go on the snow storage cart that others asked, but I guess I'd want to see on the plan that you put snow storage on the plan. Where is that you're going to... Where does you want to put it? No, I understand, but I want it on the plan. I wanted it from them on the plan, so that way, later on, if we approve it, we've got it on the plan. Because it's got a... Or it doesn't. There's no storage. In the plan beds, yeah. Yeah, in the plan beds, though. And we can enhance it. But you're talking about going in here, right? Right, but you're talking about using that. There's this. There are also going in here. Yeah. There's three. We'll also look at a smaller plan than what's up there, but yeah. Oh, but you're talking about you're talking about tiny storage areas. Exactly, tiny storage. Yeah. Okay. Now, tiny storage areas, right? Because what we lost is we lost some over here. Right. We lost this over here when that could cut back. Right. So I think... Well, let me... I'll let you folks ask questions, too. Oh, no, no, no, no. For me, whatever your plan is on snow storage, I'd like to see it on the plan, so that way we have it as, you know, part of everything that we do here. You know, we want to... We approve. Yeah, we want to approve. That should be exactly what it is. So, but I'll leave it to Bruce. Any other questions on that? Christine? No, I think that's good. I'm a little concerned that those trees are so tight together, but... Yeah. I'm trying to do the best we can. Yeah. Squeezing it. Yeah. Hopefully they'll all survive. Let me compete with each other. Yeah. Andrew, I think that's fine. You're exclaiming me about the top of the van. I'm not understanding that. Well, from what I've heard, there's an overhead streetlight. Yeah. That's directing light with sidewalk and street, which also reflects light back over these parking spaces. Light. And it's apparently, from what I've heard, reflecting off the van, which is parked here, overnight, off the roof of the van. And that that roof is visible by, for people way up on the hill, on the other side of the center. Oh, here somewhere. Okay. What about the lights of those vans? Is that an issue that we've been getting comments on or not? The lights facing. The headlights? The left. Yeah. Facing this way? Yeah. Is that been an issue? I haven't heard that. Maybe it is. So the van is back into that space, and then shining up into the rock wall. Yeah. So I think that's not the issue. It's the fact that there is some light that is shining down on a Stark vehicle and either reflective or just feels bright through the homes on Brattle. And so what we're trying to do is shield that a little bit as you come up with the other body. And then I had two other suggestions that might help. One is to put a darker, matte color on the roof of the van. All right. And just because just a dark color will absorb the artificial light that's coming through there. The other thing, what we have to ask Jake about is, can we put shields on the van? This is the light that's coming up at the street on the sidewalk. Yeah. And so we could shield on both sides, not just shielding on the side the light that's dispersed towards Brattle, but also the light that comes towards our building and be very directed down at the sidewalk. So the dispersion of light over that van is also somewhat reduced. That's another suggestion. We'd have to get their approval to do that. We'd have to opine if that makes sense as well. I think we would be fine doing that and that those two ways could help reduce the amount of impact in that vehicle's, whatever light is effective, impacted by the vehicle being there. I like those two solutions more than the other varieties, actually. I can't quite figure out how they stopped the light from hitting the top. It sounds good to buffer it. There's this topic that I want to talk about. That's a part of the space. I came in from leaving that. The van isn't in the space in that picture, but that's where the van would be. That's the light that's shining down. If it's not felt that they're helpful, I would also prefer to not have the green trees there. If you're going to paint the top of the van dark, and if Jake thinks the shield could be put on that other light and that could help reduce it, you can always come back in and tell the other varieties if those two solutions aren't working. I would say the other varieties should be the last solution there. It's just too crammed in. It's just too crammed. I know you're trying to get the tallest thing in there you can because you don't really want to lose a street tree in there. What would you put there instead? If you're going to do it with vegetation, there's really not that many other choices. If you want to scream the van, it's going to sit there or any other vehicle that will end up sitting there because that's the thing you see when you come up the hill. Well, before there were lower survey hollies, which get to be they can be 8 feet. 4, 5, 6, they could get bigger, but they could get up to 8 feet tall. So those would have helped shield it when you're coming up the hill. That would have blocked the majority of the van. But just to create the buffer and breaking it up a little bit, that was our original impression. I see it was high enough so you don't see the van park there all the time. So the first thing you see. These trees to the transvolar side and downhill side as you come up are still planned to be there and they're taller. They're the other variety and Norway spruce, which are also large evergreen and fold down to the ground kind of screening. So these are still in the plan. These are the ones in question. Three right on one side. I was just wondering about really getting a better screen on the side of that so you don't see right into it all the time. An architectural screen versus a vegetated? Something. I think that's a lot of planting. And those are all evergreens. But you said you want to take them out? Well, the ones on this side, I think if we kept the hollies instead of putting in the tall ones, she's changed those to the very tall arborvities. You know the tall, thin arborvities? They're dark. They're in other parts of the site actually. When you go up the hill, there's a whole row. Right. By the guard row up there. So they're probably never going to get to be 45 feet tall. But they would help. Unless they were 10 feet so they could block. Yeah, those aren't going to get to be 10 feet tall and that'll help. I think the neighbor was seeing it from her window up a little higher. I didn't want to see the van at all. She was seeing the reflection looking down. Why not put those trees by the long side there so you don't see them? Yeah, the arborlite. Which ones? The arborlite. I'm trying to figure out whether you want the holly or the arborlite. I want the one that's 10 feet tall. The problem is you're going to have these three 10 feet tall evergreens and then you're going to have a street tree right on top of them. What about a plant that just kind of fills in like maybe it's the holly? I don't know. Something that just makes a nice visual screen there so you don't see the van. That was the holly? Yeah, I think that's been heard before. The reflection of the van is painted. So you do all three? Yeah, the hollies. I think we're going to work better for them. That sounds like... I'd like to know that the shields are kind of permanent and they work. They don't get beat up. We should make sure that they actually achieve what we're asking them. And I would start with substantial sized hollies then. Hopefully they're going to have some impact. We have a 24 to 30 inch height for those... Yeah, that's the same one. It'd be nice to see something larger than that. Okay. Yeah, put that up to the next size at least. You get too large than they don't take. David, with the dark matte on the rooftop bees, you probably know for that vehicle? Yeah. And at some point, vehicles do need to be replaced over the replacement vehicle. I'm glad you have that as a requirement. What's the van for? Is it just transportation? For the residents, yeah. So it's your van. Right. So we can... It's not going to be somebody other than pulling in that's got a big bull's eye on it. It says ACME. But the point is we put the matte on once in five, seven years from now we get another van. We'd be glad to have that as a requirement. That's one dark blue. The whole van. A light van. You can paint the van. Darker color. A darker color. We have certain standards. We can't speak for everything we do. We're going to look at that logo. You've got a nice blue, dark blue. It still would need a matte finish. So I think the matte finish is more than the matte finish. It's like a non-reflection. It's not glossy. And then on top of that being the darker color, it should absorb the white. Yeah. As opposed to being a little more garish than it is today. Yeah, dark and matte is what you want. The rest of it doesn't matter. I think the side of it does too. You don't want the thing just... Yeah. With respect to the screening for the street life we would need to get the approval of the Sims 360 because that's on... It's what, a shared responsibility or is it on their land? Yes. It's an easement that we share with them. I don't know who would grant that approval to put the shields up. Jay, do you have any quick response to what I'm talking about? Yeah, I think that... I don't want to push in a lot. Concerns, I think, would just be safety with the coverage of the satellites with the engineering of the whole road and the liability. So, I think that's the primary and I think that the other is just the appearance of how it looks presentation-wise coming up the road. With double shades here really altering those lights pretty significantly. So, you know, everybody should just be aware of all of the impacts. You can check though for that one light. Well, you know, those lights aren't going to be functioning the way they were designed to. And, you know, nobody likes to think of a downside scenario and it may be unlikely to happen but if there was a life safety issue of any kind there, you know, who's liable for it. And that's what's led to a lot of hesitancy, I think, within our partnership group of altering the design that was approved and engineered and that there's the affidavits that have been signed that it's been constructed per plan. Those are issues. Those are legal issues. And so when people are altering those plans, they're assuming the liability for that too. So, you know, we do manage that together as part of the overall governance and there's costs they're shared back and forth and that's how it is. So, it's not a simple, you know, sometimes a simple solutions can have impacts that aren't anticipated down the road. So, David, what I'm hearing is that I'm at top to the van. Right now it's looking like Holly, but if the shield doesn't come onto that light, maybe you've got a different answer on that, Christine. And I think we need an answer on the shield. Okay, so that's what I was hearing on that particular piece of the equation. I think the thing that I'm not sure we kind of talked about or finalized for homework or anything else is that it's the one parking spot and what we're going to want to do there. So, David, I guess why don't you I'll let you lead. Well, my hope, and I'm going to talk to Mike about this a little bit already, our preference is to try and retain the parking space up there, just programmatic for the residents, for staff, for guests. We have a limited amount of space up there as it is right now. So, my hope was to try and find a solution that mitigated some of the concerns of the lighting of the parked car, et cetera, in that space. And I hope for that. The red dendrons were planted there plus the enhanced evergreens down below as you go down the hill on the other side of our entry could mitigate that. And then in the winter when we have a snow event that becomes a storage area. So we immediately lose that space when we need to store snow. But at least we wouldn't lose it all year long. That was my objective. If that meets with the Board's approval, I'd like that to be the recommendation. So I wanted to get some feedback from you and see if that met the concerns that you're hearing about, the concerns you individually have. Bruce. I have some problems with it to be honest, David. I have been up to the site and looked at what I think are the lines of the headlights and it really does look like it's going to impact the butter at 121 Brattle. So I'm glad to hear about the possible mitigation strategies but I'm just concerned that it's really and they might address the problem that I'm not really convinced of that and since it's that departure from the plan that we approved, this one I have a hard time saying is insubstantial because I just think the impact of that falls on the butter and the butter wouldn't have had a chance to object to that deciding of that space because it wasn't part of the original plan. So I guess I'm sort of would like to hear about the other options and you can wait till the board goes through the other questions. It feels the same way as Bruce which I appreciate that. I really do. We clearly didn't anticipate these issues arising for the most part thought most of these changes were insubstantial and I appreciate you hearing us out on the other changes. This has a greater impact we clearly see that. The other solution is simply to remove it. We can do that and I would agree to doing that. Mike and I talked about that earlier and I understand, I told Mike I appreciate his time going up there individually and spending time seeing the impact at night. Katya and I did the same thing at night but we see the direct impact especially to the one neighbor. It's a little hard because we don't have the landscaping installed yet and it's it's helpful to have that additional parking space but if we also want to get to the end when we want to be I hope the sense is we're doing everything we can to mitigate some of these concerns we're trying to be thoughtful and creative in the changes I hope you've seen that and the other things we're doing. If you feel strongly about it we will remove that spot I just wanted to be thoughtful about the fact that there's some utilitarian aspects of it and I think we can accomplish both but I appreciate the concern that what if we can't and then we've got approval and people know we'll come back and make amends to improve later so hopefully you've gotten a sense of who we are through this process over the last couple of years and we are good to the word we have and we're excited about being a part of the community so we want to be on the right foot as well. So if everyone feels strongly about it I'd be glad to renew the space I just wanted to hear our perspective on it. I still think that it might be possible to put some type of panel there right across that front area you may have to put a wheel stop so the cars don't get all the way up to it I mean it could be some type of very attractive lattice that a vertical green could grow up on could grow up on it and do more, yeah. So if you want to accomplish something like that which I think is doable you know a combination of a fence panel similar to your fence above that has an evergreen can we bolt it down again or something that wouldn't do so well in the middle but tying not much evergreen vine out there there are no evergreen vines that I know of I'm going to use the closest you can get and they wouldn't really grow up in metal picket fence and I'm a little of the mind of the aesthetic of adding a wood panel with all the other the pallet materials are in there it's not going to be as nice as just simply an evergreen shrub that fills in and spills over whatever it can I mean if the evergreen shrubs can be planted if you can put one on both sides of the light post and get them to grow on both sides of it then there's still a hope that you could do with just the plants before we delve any deeper we can hear from Andrew I think I tend to agree with Bruce I think it's a fairly substantial change and the impact on the a butter I don't know that shrubberies are going to solve that if lights are on, lights are on we're going to be shining into that property I think it's a fix that's not really making anybody very happy and even you in general the wall might stop the light but then you guys have to deal with it looks like you're fixing the problem just not I really think you might need to lose that spot and landscape it in unless you can show a beautiful solution to fix the light and you feel comfortable with along the lines of a wall see if you had it to do now you could have built the wall around and designed it within the lights would be on top of the wall and all this stuff that you can't do now so you really got it's a messy little corner the other option is to back it up and leave enough room for the plants but I think the real issue is what I'm hearing from the board as well is that you would have to do and then we'd have to take a look at it and then you might still be in the same spot which is the majority of the board saying not enough so I the agreement bruises take on it and I do think that maybe we could have considered some of these things but given where we are in the process it doesn't make a lot of sense and I didn't mean to cut you off but I was just reaffirming what you said which is I think the problem you have is if you could try a bunch of these things and we still don't know and I know I'm probably more at that camp than anything else I know you've been clear of me so if that would make everybody happy we'd be glad to take that part in the space out I think they had got you to design something if we had to get there so if you want to take a quick look at that that sounds great so this is showing all five of the crab echo back as for the approved plan and additional snow storage would be available in that same spot we've spoken of and a couple more Anthony Waters by Rhea because there's not much more ground and that's simple as that what does that look like go back to the beginning in the end we acknowledge we want that to be an invite to start with parents to us so while I'm trying to balance the utilitarian aspect I appreciate you listening I think in the end this will be a nice result as well I actually just had a question because I do know that because the ball moved in you still have enough room for good I guess that was it's tighter but there's a little fearful that that wouldn't be the case so that's great and do we denote the storage area I did quite to it on the left side but is there a note on the plan on this plan there is so then maybe that ties that together I think it does so if that makes for the approval we can submit this plan for approval I think that addresses all the final items we could start out discussion in the night so it would be this plan for approval without the RRVDi near then parking space going back to the holly the one question I have for the board on that particular I have Christine more than anybody else the shield doesn't happen on that light for whatever reason which tree is better because I think we have to give instructions with respect to that in the event that that doesn't happen well I haven't been out there to look from the house windows I'm assuming the RVDi's would work better to block the light bouncing off the top of the van once the van is painted black or painted dark with a matte finish I don't believe the light is going to be as much of an issue so I would go back to the to the size holly that would block the side views of the van and still work underneath the tree that would be my preference then that is what Bruce said which is it's this plan with the RVDi being removed going back going back to the what she said one bigger than what you had that's right yeah certainly I don't perhaps the plan can be noted before the end of the meeting so that we could have that in the flies that would be great I took a bite to it right and the same landscape applies around the exhaust so that would be an up to date and that's shown on this plan too correct with respect to any of the other I don't think we have any open answers before we move on to issues that came up letters to yeah but that's not really anything on those changes not on the ones before us it is kind of decided that was a change that was presented to us at the last meeting and the fact that it's not complete if you want to ask a question there was a question that has come up and I haven't seen it personally myself on the siding around the east side I think of the building to the right that it didn't appear that the siding was finished, the top right and from the lower vista park you get a very clear view of the siding I think it's that retaining wall that goes down instead of being down and I didn't print out the picture but you can see the concrete foundation versus siding as though the siding weren't completed if you could check into that maybe and get back to the floor and I haven't seen it myself but that seemed to be a concern so I did take a look at that yeah it's not really in public view yeah you have to begin to sort of walk down from the lower vista park so where the where the crust of the hill is out for the lower vista park you have to actually begin to go down the slope but more of that foundation wall comes into view so it didn't seem to me like it was well with the conservation easement being right there I'm not knowing where public trails are going to be built in the future there could be a trail that comes up right alongside of there actually the old access road is there for utility work you know they're not going to restore that with plants so that's going to be a very open pathway up there also I would agree with the overall view on that though it does look a little unfinished okay we just decided to stop here I wonder, again I haven't seen it myself is it is it due to a condition where you you can't have the siding that close to the ground I wonder if there's a maintenance issue associated with it it goes to an unfinished condition and that's the only thing I can't comment on is we may not be able to do anything about that condition is it on the wall, the wing wall I don't know where it is it's on the building on the building not on the wing wall I can point out where it is it's right about there and going a little farther towards them in the north really direct I couldn't tell on this picture where it was it's right in there it's this area right there I'm not sure that I'm not sure that was one of the changes I can't remember yeah I don't think it was I brought it yeah, no that's fine I think I have it here that's my only comment is there no vegetation that will go there no it's a middle of next there could be some there could be some height there two feet so that should be one of these sections right this is where the patio was added and the wall is back here maybe this section right here yeah at the top of the wall it's probably up at the top of the wall where is it this is the wall do you think it's up in here not this is that what you think Bruce because I think that's the building yeah because I think this is behind where the retaining wall comes in so the area of questions is kind of behind that wall from the right angle looking down you can get a glimpse of it but it's not shouting at you I think it might be that's designed yeah I think that's how it was designed in the original plan yeah I'm just bringing it up because I brought it to our attention sure I appreciate that my sense is that's a condition that can't be altered relative to the connection with the grade and I don't know you may actually I guess I guess you're hearing the concern of the board and maybe if you could we can look into it absolutely that would be great yeah maybe it's a screen okay because I don't think that was part of the request I think we can move the requests from last week yeah that wasn't on that elevation exactly it wasn't on that elevation we'll look into it that would be great exactly that would be great knowing that people will be walking using that conservation so I think what we have before us are the elevations from two weeks ago the elevations from two weeks ago the new sites don't think there are any changes to any of these elevations these go out these are no longer relevant but the signage is the new signs are relevant and each of these elevations is relevant as well as that plan with as notated the haulies coming back into play instead of the RV so I think I will entertain a motion if that makes sense to approve the elevations from two weeks ago from two weeks ago with the plan as amended and presented I would add just to that the condition that the van have a finish on the top with a absorbent color black or some other close dark navy or something like that so is that a motion? what about the shield? they should be investigated it is desirable but that's not going to work for both probably do that you can't put a condition that considers it not without an engineer's report well that the engineers take a look at it and if possible that it be accomplished and if it's not possible we'll have to live with the the matte roof finish up I guess what we could add is that with the applicant undertaking additional mitigation in the event that the reflection from the van continues to be problematic that's me but I'm trying to get a little bit more fine tuned down a little bit more for the I think it's investigation of street light yeah it's just that the enforcing was we can't do it if it's not allowed but I don't know that that was resolved whether it's impossible to do or not I'm not sure that that wasn't one of our initial issues either that's correct I think let's do it that way for now the same as we're treating the headlights or the the wall the foundation wall that it be investigated yeah so that's not going to be part of it but you are hearing and I think it will do everyone a world of good if you could figure that out so the van top the van top however we'll put that in since that's decided so I think Carol would you mind just telling me the dates of the pro con plans that you reviewed two or three yeah I think these are the right ones three ten let's see yeah three yeah this one's got the date yeah this one's got the very 26 on the sign going kind of backwards here three ten packet this was part of the three ten packet but the sign was the 226 one so it is the three ten packet yeah I think everything else is dated three ten it's just that one that is oh no it says three ten on the top I'm sorry it is it's the three ten packet three ten fourteen sorry but we're excluding a couple exactly excluding page number five and six six including site plan dated okay let's put a plan to plan plan to plan L5 point out three 24 and as annotated as annotated tonight and as annotated April 1st yet March 31st as annotated as March March 31st July okay I tried we got the art condition in there about the the man-matte, the dark matte do we want to measure this as top of the dark no well part of it is this is still valid but I don't know if we this is still valid the planting that was detailed you know and this will just be this will just be a little bit more robust we'll have more trees in here because it shows the parking spots and I don't like that yeah so you may want to just go to the section so we'll just use the proposed planting and we'll put it in the carousel section so the retainable section oh you got a camera I want to keep I know okay hopefully we'll wait for Carol to jump again hopefully we have motion you ready Carol? I am alright so well we need someone to say so moved don't you want to read it back wait you made the motion oh I did make the motion yeah I was adding oh so you can so move I'll set it you don't want this read back so you can go for it Carol I'd like to hear it back okay you got to wait one minute then not to put you on the spot I bet everybody out there doesn't want to hear it back but listen people good Simmons moved to approve the elevation drawings dated March 10th 2014 excluding pages 5 and 6 including revised L 0.5 plan revised revision 7 as notated March 31st 2014 by Catherine Poizziadlo for bright view and with the condition that the van roof be a matte top dark colored roof and for the planting section this is going to have to all be re-ordered and for the planting section shown on page dated March 31st 2014 prepared by Blair High's design contributed you want to ask a follow-up this later you do need to add one thing I'm sorry Carol but with reference to the planting plan L5.0 substituting out the armor that's the annotation that's the annotation you just put the section with the plan and then that last section is being replaced just like the plan is or being included yeah she's adding does that make sense handy yeah we'll order we'll re-order is someone moved I second too late you can vote though you can third it I can re-send the second if you really want to Carol did you get that with Bruce moving in Christine seconding thank you all in favor bye thank you very much you did a very nice job we're well behind schedule at this point so hopefully we'll move it along go and invite Scott Smith from Transportation Advisory Committee sorry for the delay I didn't get one minute I didn't get one minute thanks Scott sorry about that if you would mind introducing yourself sure Scott Smith Transportation Advisory Committee also on the bicycle advisory committee select step on Miller bike advisory committee also part of our working group consisting of Jeff other members including Jeff Max Wayne Chunard, engineer Howard Hughes, Laura Wiener Christopher Todd a bunch of that another big just quickly review this yeah if you don't mind you don't have to read it or anything but if you could give us the bullets so at a redevelopment board meeting which I was unable to attend February 3rd we asked a solution for feasibility of a chicane that's like a little bend in the road I don't want to close this example when no one knows I'm not Blanchard Road which turns into Brighton Street okay and and so we did so the working group got together at the end of February there were some guidelines from Ash Tau and came up with some concepts for the design a little bend on the road on the bike path so we presented two options Transportation Advisory Committee a regular meeting on March 12th Concerns are arranged a lot about the available right-of-way room which is pretty limited and also about the potential for increased bicycle pedestrian conflicts it's just because you've had a bend in the road doesn't mean people are going to follow it and TAC unanimously recommended not to go for a chicane option so we went back then Wayne Town Engineer did some more research and identified a split entry design where some of the functions basically the east half splits into two one-way segments and so you have a little island near the intersection which serves two purposes one is each half is too narrow for a car to get down and it also really lets the path users know there's an intersection here and the local example on that is on the new path going from the old life towards Belmont where it gets Brighton Street right by the tracks here runs alongside the tracks on the Fitchburg line I know what you mean yeah and then we took another look at it and said well there's absolutely no room to do this on the east side because you've got a room on one side and a fire hydrant on another and if you do it on one side it means you're crossing Mill Street at a kind of crazy angle which isn't desirable either so after that we went to Wayne modified the design which is in your report it's basically a flashing beacon so it works reliably if basically I think it's getting far more use than the initial design ever contemplated we placed a sidewalk with a concrete sidewalk needs ADA requirements and was also highly visible and then a bunch of signs and paint was being both be practical there okay and then we took advantage of the regularly scheduled meeting of the bike committee when this had just been come out this was on the 19th and bike committee unanimously voted to support Wayne's design DPW's design TAC has now had a chance to meet as a whole working group sequences okay I have just one question Scott and first of all your committee for all the work they've done you guys do great work and it's incredibly helpful for us on the scheme sure I don't know if this was intentional or not but it looks like this bike thing here you're saying take that out you're saying no bike crossing marks between bike path and summer street I was wondering is that intentional I think it may be there isn't enough room to have there isn't enough space between the light we can follow up with Wayne I assume it's just such a short distance to the light at summer street they may not have much room for an advance marking okay because you're taking the budget that you've got to bike crossing you know allocations here and I'm sure that the paint I mean that's not a budget buster to take it back to engineering and say hey if you can do this do it yeah I guess that's what I would be asking because it would seem to make sense but I understand if it's just too much happening in that space between the summer street on the left that's right then I understand the reason you're not putting it there but it seems strange to take it out okay we can follow up okay so I had just two questions I have two questions the solar panel upgrade for rectangular rapid flash beacon a new beacon and a new solar panel I'm just curious the beacon is there the same beacon but what we found is it didn't work very well particularly in the winter after a whole lot of diagnosis checking it needs more power so it needs a bigger solar panel so are you getting a rebate on the old solar panels is it the company that has to provide it or this would be more a question I'm just curious I didn't see that on the cost estimate that there might be a rebate back but it may not be the fault of the provider of the beacon the fabricator it's just getting more use and needs a stronger panel that was one question the other question I like the design that you guys have come up with and I thank you for looking at the chicanes you had mentioned that there was limited available right away we had talked about actually approaching that owner since this is the time if we're ever going to do it to gain more right of way so I'm just curious when TAC made a call on that was it mostly because of the right away or the increased potential conflicts I think increased potential conflicts then it's a mute point yeah it's just sometimes it might work on uncrowded path it'd be inadvisable on this path that's all the questions I had thank you I think you guys have done an excellent job with this we really appreciate all the hard work along with upgrading the store is there an option I don't know anything about the beacon so this may be foolish question is there a battery in there that could be upgraded as well to increase the storage of the power I think he actually mentioned that the battery was going to be upgraded because that's part of that's part of the system okay good that's a shorthand okay, I'll wait for all my questions Carol no I don't have questions thank you thank you very much for the hard work so I think if the court is okay with what's been discussed I think we should entertain a motion to accept the plan dated at 327 14 by the it's actually your dbw oh it's a dbw's plan Wayne prepared this thank you the dbw's plan of 327 14 and the budget by the dbw as well so moved the one condition to look into the hang on middle street by crossing dated note if you could do that the good news is we've got two of them in the budget we should be okay on that okay, Andy moved second Andrew seconded all in favor thank you really appreciate it okay moving right along so next on the agenda is Arlington 360 review of matrix open items for performance and actually this is this is going to change a little bit in that I'm not sure we're going to go over the matrix tonight we might go over different pieces that are open what we're going to do is we're going to go over open items Carol you didn't bring your matrices did you I did but they're a mess because they didn't properly because adding the column trying to save paper but the jakes doesn't show the items that stopped you know you could use those let's hold off I'd rather have you kind of go through them verbally if that's just as well I'd rather use Carol's on that because those are the ones that fully had come up so from our perspective those are the ones I don't have a record if you want should you want to pass those out or do you want me to just go through the ones that Carol if we took three minutes and tried to collate them would we have the ability to do that yeah do you want to start with the LDA we could use that list that you've got the list of open yeah so what it is folks we want to go through open items and certainly we want to go through the matrix and what's left and everything else to do what we're not in a position to do quite yet is to talk about it in terms of this is what's left and we're talking about the building enforcement officer what it is that in looking at the LDA we need to be probably more complete in the whole process before signing off for final if you look at the LDA and the special permit it specifically says that the Arlington redevelopment board needs to say that the project is complete before the building enforcement officer you should give us a certificate so from that perspective what Jake's going to run us through is different open items which he worked with with Laura Laura couldn't be here tonight so this is really staff and developers working together to talk about what's left on the open item list and that's it yeah so the group approaches to this is to look at the LDA requirements and the conditions of approval building up to sort of what the amounts are at least the last video and then it's about to be done we were we had made a big effort to try to get the CR having a lot of progress on the conservation restriction and getting all of the parties to approve it and there's a lot of different legal councils that had to kind of come into alignment I think we've made tremendous strides over the last three weeks of really being very very focused on it and we've actually gotten it to be approved by the Arlington Land Trust I started the conservation commission the Arlington Land Trust the council representing the ARB the legal staff for shelter the legal staff for shelter's lender for equity partners Arlington 360's equity partners and that lender so we've gotten alignment we've also negotiated that all out and gotten approval from the state and they are in the process of getting their signature they're waiting for all of the other signatures and some lean releases or some subordination agreements to be done to the CR to make sure that that's all in alignment essentially the CR is a critical point because it's required to be done at the end of the project because it encompasses a lot of different other open space and the upper and lower vista parks it sets in motion a different set of governance and so it's a very interrelated component of the project it also touches very closely with the neighborhood protection plan so we've been also working closely with the neighborhood groups to have them all understand where we are and getting alignment with everybody so we've made a lot of progress on that we were hopeful that we would be able to have that be recorded and we could have then made some payments that are necessary under the LDA for the land trust and the Sims Endowment Fund Open Space Endowment Fund we are not quite there we have shelters hopeful to have their debt render due to support nation agreement that's the last thing that we're ended I think they were very consumed with their presentation to you tonight so it is definitely on their screen and it's important for them as well as for us to get it done so we expect that by the end of this week we'll be making even more progress so hopefully we're clear with a lot of these things that are still outstanding coming together very quickly we also have a couple challenges with weather and with coordination with shelters work on some of these overlapping areas, for instance shelters now in the process of decommissioning their marketing center I think it's been removed from the area they are pro con is organizing for that whole replanting plan that has been before you and has been approved some of it's just letting the ground fog the snow out getting out of heavy heavy mud conditions with all the rain that we've had and hopefully we'll start to clear in the next couple weeks so we're hopeful that we're going in the right direction there's some debris cleanup that has been buried by the snow that also is part of the spring cleanup if you will and finalizing those plans other weather related issues are thermal tape for the markings on the roads that has that shiny found heavy tape that goes on that can be applied in a condition that stays I think over 60 degrees or something for 24 hours so we're waiting for something for that to happen the same is true with the sensors that go in the road that will happen at the bottom of sinned road at Summer Street and that ties in with some of the traffic organization sequencing that has been done with the town so those are the kind of stuff that we're working on and others and of course for the bus stop and the completion of the sidewalk where the shelters marketing operation has been it's all the 360s obligation to complete that sidewalk and it's not very complicated construction it's just a lot easier to do when it's more than one that's cooperating so just to go through the list of items to complete just sequentially and some rough dollar amounts expect to be done by outside date it would be May 15 it is weather dependent it's already under contract with Siemens which has the contract for all of the town to do a lot of the wood detectors it's $7,800 need applied thermal plastic tape for the striping it's not a lot of money only it's $3,000 but weather dependent completing the sidewalk curbing at the Shelter Marketing Center we should have that done hopefully in a couple weeks but in a little bit May 15 is our expectation $5,000 the completion of the bus stop that is surprisingly expensive $15,200 we are trying to get service up there since we can if we have it done by June 30 in a May we can get into the June start up mode with the NVTA and that's our goal the stop bar at Woodside Lane that will be done when we do the thermal plastic that's just the painting on the road the stop sign has already been installed there's a bunch of hay bales and erosion control that are one of the last things to be removed when the construction fencing is removed primarily around the shelter site they'll be doing there there is some at the lower ends of some of the rip-rap slope areas and some extra erosion control that was put in over the winter to control the erosion as much as possible and the lower it is to park all of those things are hopefully in part of the spring land keeping clean up one item that was pointed out that we will be doing I don't think it's an LDA obligation but it's to clean up the patch basins for the filtration that happened in the drainage system that's just part of a routine annual maintenance of that so we'll be doing that and there's the replanting of the Shelter Brightview Marketing Center which is fairly significant and there was one construction error with the parking spaces at the Sim's Upper Vista Park which is a striking correction that needs to be done and that's also what it depends on so those are primarily the scope of work we see them as relatively minor we would like to consider these sort of punch lists like if we're able to we're going to do these as quickly as we can we understand that we're also trying to finish the administration of the CR doing that recorded so there's a couple of other things that we're doing in parallel so we're going to try to do as much of those things as possible but these are things that could be added to our escrow completion which is part of the LDA which is a $100,000 payment that's already been held by the ARB to ensure the completion of the project but it would just be an extra layer of security for the town and we'd be hopeful that we could close out the specific occupancy to finalize our occupancy permits we feel that some of these things don't really relate to the occupancy of the buildings however we're going to try to do these as quickly as possible and we're doing it so we're hopeful by the time we're able to have these other CR documents done that it's a matter of weeks we're there we're done with everything that's a quick synapsis I can track where they hit which conditions of approval there's only about four it's whether you want to get into it or not I think actually I shouldn't speak to the board I think the notion was to go through the list to get people a sense for what's left I don't think that it makes we could go through the different things as well on the list over here but what you're going to find is that they're very much similar to what's been described other than things like the and we don't have both so I think maybe it's just a little bit tough and you guys didn't see this ahead of time is part of it but why don't you take it and review it and we can kind of go over any questions you have at the next meeting we can put an agenda item on there but I think what we're trying to give a sense for between Mara and Jake is Carol working on this that's okay Carol although you don't even need to kind of go through it it's really this here is this is what we're we're starting to get down to other than some big items like recording and the payments that go along with that so those are big items but one thing just to add to what Mike is saying with what we think is important with the kind of name sales that we have a lot of these viruses can under contract for a while and are just to close one of the things that we need in order to close is first the CR to be recorded and kind of close out our conditions of approval which then allows us to get a certificate of occupancy which then allows us to actually close on the unit so it's a bit of a vicious circle and there is urgency with these buyers who some of which have been in interim housing have sold their homes or waiting to move in in different various stages but they're they want to know when they can move in and they've lost two or three buyers because we haven't been able to say when we're going to close and so we're hopeful that we're going to get through that I think our account is I think it's seven or eight there's seven that are under some either reservation or purchase and sale agreement that we're processing through but we need to we need to accomplish both of those in order to close up their listings through June into June these things are on the market they're being actively the traffic has been decent for that but we do want to get this certificate of occupancy done for a whole variety as as does everybody so like I said we will focus on finishing up as much as we can as quickly as we can and we would like to have the preconditions for the certificate of occupancy done as soon as possible that'd be great I think the punch list approach makes a lot of sense administratively how do you foresee this working let me just sort of flesh out my question so there's already a hundred thousand dollars for completion so we're not talking about a new hundred thousand dollars we're talking about just adding these items into that we're just amending the scope for what that covers the idea would be as we complete these items we go through a process of releasing some of those funds I think that realistically they're probably all going to be done in June so we're not looking for every short list stopping another one, everyone done but there may be two phases that make sense hopefully this all comes together just having been an extra agent more times than I wanted to be for the rest of my career if we get up to two thousand dollars here and there we understand that I think that if we had sixty thousand or seventy thousand dollars of work that was done and we were going to be sitting around waiting for some reason three or four months we might want to come to at least two thirds of it or half of that amount but I think realistically the bond would be placed we would like to have that cover any doubt about whether the conditions of approvals are going to be satisfied we can get all the ones in the canada and then for instance it could be the striping for the road which is a very minor amount we could say we're close to the bond but we actually need to get our stipular occupancy let's have that be identified as part of the requirements for the escrow okay Carol, Christine so all the repairs to the lower vista park I think there were more down there than the upper on the landscape that was eroded over the winter and stuffed it in take and we were looking at the location of the benches is that all under the thirty and the five here item six that's the intention again that whole area is so weather dependent right now if it hadn't rained like crazy for the last four days we may be in there trying to finish that up now but that's where you're we're pocketing that that's my only question Andrew Carol the only thing that I'll add is that the town historian has indicated an interest in trying to revive a solution for our oh yes the board has voted that that is not a condition I want to say that that doesn't mean that we're not going to try to figure out a solution that makes sense so we're still open for new ideas on the crosses yes it's Mike Bradner working on some new ideas no we're looking at what's an idea to have Mike Bradner document I mean we've gone through I think three or four different iterations of trying to figure that out so we are I think it makes sense to have some thinking with the town historian and see we've got some different ideas with maybe some planting beds as difficult as you put them in the ground they start to look dream stony like having to do the death connotation which is not the intention of anybody so we're trying to find a way that sort of removes that and sort of elevates it so it can be a historical reference that it should be about birth not about death that's what we would hope to be so sorry okay thank you thank you it's not a hearing or anything else there are some items that I think Jake left off of his list one big one for neighbors is cleaning up of the conservation is that a more that's what you're you've got those things that we talked about internally that we I think is more of a snack issue we got a neighborhood complain about noise and you know once again that's all as long as the conservation clean up is on your list just remove all of their allotment you're talking about the marketing trail no no no there needs to be a clean up of the whole trash and things that's what's put up it needs to be cleaned up paidels old paidels showing the last thing to do most important to realize is that okay thank you thank you thank you I'm gonna the next item on the agenda is our discussion of presentation which I don't have a report that's why you didn't get it in your packet because I haven't done it yet so I'm gonna try to do that this week can I just like to get the board if you want to just you know what because Susan's been here why don't we flip flop and talk about the community preservation act I didn't realize anyone was going to be here from outside to talk about it otherwise I would have gotten you on earlier sorry about that so let's flip flop it if we do have something we want to talk about on the presentation so next item on the agenda as we flip flop this is going to be a little bit of a discussion on the community preservation act there is a that's more this year about passing the community preservation act and I think we're fairly certain that there's a good chance that people are going to want to know what the redevelopment board thinks about the community preservation act so I was hoping tonight to introduce the board to it and to the what's going on with respect to that as part of town meeting and maybe before town meeting at the next meeting or even at the meeting before the first meeting of town meeting maybe have a more fulsome discussion about what the board thinks it doesn't have to be anything stated or anything else but if we are asked our opinion we should probably try to get one if we can so anyway that is background that was a good introduction my name is Susan Stamps and I'm leading the effort to have Arlington the doctor community preservation act or CPA it's chapter 44 of the general laws it was a law that was passed in 2000 and in the spring of 2001 the first group of 29 cities and towns passed CPA and then it went on the ballot in the fall it is a two step process the legislative body of the city or town has to adopt it and then it's voted on in the next general election so in our case it's on this town meetings it's article 22 and if it passes town meeting it will go on the ballot probably November probably not the September primary election in November so we're encouraging town meeting members even if you're not exactly sure that CPA is of that idea for Arlington please vote yes anyway so that the voters could get to decide that's one of the main pitches but just briefly to would you like to me to briefly describe what the CPA is sure yeah that would be great we do we had distributed this brochure that describes it what it does is it enables a town to set aside a dedicated fund for for specific purposes open space and open space and conservation outdoor recreational resources such as parks playgrounds number three community housing which is both affordable housing and moderate income housing which if you're a housing person you know that means people at a certain level but also people at another level so it encompasses a lot of people and then the fourth area is historic preservation and why would the state of well because as we know full well in Arlington town and city budgets are tough and the core services are always funded first and Arlington does a great job of that schools emergency services roads etc and there's not a whole lot left over for these sorts of projects which really create the community's quality of life and make it make the community a place that people want to be and and it was passed in response to a lot of communities being really concerned about their quality of life being diminished because of growth and inability to acquire space inability to acquire space for parks and then to be able to keep them up inability to have historic resources and for Arlington I know one area of growth that the town is hoping for is a growth in tourism that that is seen as a big possibility for economic development and certainly the kinds of amenities that Arlington can have if we adopt CPA are exactly the sorts of things that are going to draw people to the town the recreational facilities they are wonderful historic resources and also allow us to maintain a diverse community which I think is important to the town and we can do that by making a lot more affordable housing available so the statute CPA allows the town to have this dedicated fund and the money in the fund comes from two resources from the town and from the state and the town side comes from a very modest surcharge on property tax and the state side comes from a surcharge at the registry of deeds for every document that's recorded so in the early is that surcharge only on the towns for the towns that do it or is that is that surcharge happening for everybody is not getting our cut that's a great point it is a great point so we're subsidizing we're subsidizing everybody else wow that's huge the Kennedy school did a report in 2007 in fact the title of the report was something like Community Preservation Act who benefits and who pays and in the early years it was the it was the more affluent towns with the well educated population who saw this thing and said oh where do we get that and they passed and so what you had was these monies going into the state fund from property transfers everywhere Roxbury I mean wherever the poor towns the big towns where it was sort of a reverse Robin Hood effect now in recent years a lot of the less affluent towns have gotten on board it's really time for Arlington to get on board Summerville passed it last year places like Fall River have it Quincy a lot of the North Shore communities are there just they sale them has it now Gloucester has it now and you take communities like Gloucester and Salem they're well known communities but they're not that affluent particularly Gloucester and Marblehead's working on it this year just as we are there on our timeline so far 155 cities and towns have adopted CPA in the 13-14 years it's the the state has in state money along has given out a little under five well I'm going to say five billion dollars and I know that sounds like a ridiculous that's one of those billions and it's just it's got a lot of zeros the Kennedy School did this study I said in 2007 the reverse Robin Hood study and they in that they had in analysis of how much money each city and town the Commonwealth had contributed to the state fund and at that time in the five year period from 2002 to 2007 Arlington had contributed $1,140,000 to the state CPA fund and it's been what five, six years, seven years since then you could at least double that if not triple it you don't have the money to leave on the table the surcharge that and the board of select is supporting this they are supporting this and in fact the motion tell me and is going to be their motion and under the statute the surcharge requested on the property tax which is funds the state side of the CPA fund can be up to 3% the motion is going to be for one and a half percent which on the average Arlington residents which the Department of Revenue says in 2014 is $515,000 will be approximately $86 a year that's it in the early years the it was 100% so that the estimate is at that level we're probably talking about a million dollars in the first year from the town and then a match of in the early years it was 100% but then as more cities and towns joined there are presently 155 cities and towns it's gone down gradually two years ago it was down to 26% but still that's a 26% return on the taxpayer's dollar that's a pretty good return last year it was 53% because the state legislature actually appropriated some money so we're not sure what's going to happen this year interestingly there is an opt-out provision in the law which says that after five years a city or town can opt to an opt-out of CPA and it has never happened one cities and towns have it they're sold it's great I will say that I think what certainly convinced at least a couple of members of the Selectman to vote in favor of the CPA is that many, many of the projects in the five-year capital plan are CPA eligible projects so they actually see CPA as being able to stretch town dollars so that we can go further out before we have to ask for operational override that's great and by the way the monies are why is the redevelopment board care about this well actually you guys have a big role to play under the statute the CPA monies are administered by a community preservation committee now all projects do ultimately have to be approved by town meeting the CPA funds have to be appropriated by town meeting just like regular general town funds but the community preservation committee takes projects whether they're suggested by the cons com or the historical commission or the citizens group down the street that wants to do this little pocket park somewhere all of the project proposals and they look at them and they figure out what's worthy of funding and they are required by statute to consult with the other town boards this is not a renegade committee which I think when we first started talking about this around town people were afraid of this is going to be some kind of the money was going to go into this black hole and people that weren't accountable were going to be doing crazy things with it but there under the statute there has to be a member of the redevelopment board on the CPC and this is appointed by the board so if you were your board would say oh we want Mike to be our person on the CPC there has to be somebody from the cons com there has to be somebody from the historical commission there has to be somebody from the housing authority and there has to be someone from the recreation commission so that's five people that are required members appointed by those boards and then there can be up to four more people appointed by the board of selectmen people at large so they are like I said they are required to the committee is required to consult each of those boards that are just named and and any other boards that might have some sort of an interest in their project and I there are some financial groups in town or people who are very concerned about the town's finances as they should be who are concerned again that this might be sort of a committee that's just going to go off and do its thing and sort of just muck up the works as far as financial planning and everything but as I said there has to be that communication with other boards and in the towns that have the CPA and I actually moved here four years ago from a town that has CPA and my experience there is very much of a collaborative process that wherever we need to do this or this lens can we buy it the finance committee would talk to the community preservation committee which would talk to the planning board which would talk to the cons common everybody would try to get together to figure out how can we get this project done do we want to use the CPA money whatever one of the really useful things about having the CPA fund is that a lot of projects you can get outside grant money if you can kick in a few hundred thousand dollars or whatever and that's what I came from Carlisle and that's what we saw there were several projects that were done that way where CPA money provided the seed to get funding one interesting thing talk about the email that you got so one thing I recall from a long time ago for some reason and it just stuck in my head is a long time ago when CPA first came up I had overheard someone I think and I'm probably just plain wrong that said that if you did CPA you would not get the CDBG community development block grant money so I said to Carol, what about that I mean because I remember that for some reason it just stuck in my head and so Carol actually put it the listserv which is a listserv for all planners in the state and posted a query if anyone heard of this link and right away I got about eight or ten people saying no like that in fact we have been encouraged by CDBG through our CPA funds into our CPA and then it died down for a few days I didn't hear anyone say that they ever had an experience where there was a negative impact on CDBG but then this morning I was interested to see that Kurt Gartner who is with the film Executive Office of Energy I forget the acronym EEOA he said that he wanted to make it very clear he was very assertive said if anything it's an advantage CDBG as an advantage if you're leveraging CPA so it was interesting to really test that out and to hear really without exception he checked in and they said that's been a rumor going around we were actually just made aware of that today we our own people researched that and said that's absolutely not true yeah well I think it's important but what's interesting is that a lot of the if you look at the list of CDBG funds that are projects that are funded a lot of them could be paid for with CPA funds which means that CDBG money could be used for other projects so there's really great possibilities here does the high school qualify as a historic the the original high school the Fusco building is historic and so any renovations that have anything to do with that part of the high school would qualify and the playing fields qualify for CPA funds well because they are now historic resources do you have to follow the Secretary of the Interior for preservation but it's pretty easy to do that in the rehabilitation category that's probably the approach that would take with the rebuild yeah they really don't I mean since the high school is up in the air Adam chapter lane did some estimates for how much of the high school if it was a renovation versus a completely new building how much could be used and I'm not going to start throwing those numbers around but it was you know not chump change yep any questions if I may out of this point Susan thank you that's great okay oh so yeah excuse me so yeah I I'm sure you will get asked at town meeting well you know how they always say does any board have anything to say and then maybe you'll be specifically asked I don't know I would imagine you would and I would certainly hope you know at the very least that you're not going to get up and say who do you think this is a really bad idea I don't get the sense that you're going to say that but I you know yeah be great if you get up and say we think it's a great idea that the kind of projects would become before us all the time there could be some more flexibility in some of the things that we'd like to see do the availability of CPA funds we can encourage people to go that route and bring us a project we'd like even better that's great yeah no we'll definitely take it up I think this is a great introduction and do our homework and make sure that we take the right kind of vote okay well I really appreciate it thank you and sitting through the rest I was very interested actually Susan do you know if your video is the CPA presentation they did it's on ACMI yeah that's a great way to although the Arlington Land Trust did a nice very nice presentation there's also a really good website that's on that brochure does anybody not have a brochure that want one no problem maybe it's at the bottom of the back yeah communitypreservation.org yes they have a ton of information and you're just going to be green with envy when you see all the cool projects yeah I looked at the website there was some really amazing things and when you look at the list of cities and towns it kind of makes Arlington look like one of the things when Scott was talking about the bikeway one of the things that I feel is a little ironic is that there is this master planning process going on right now with the bikeway involving the committees of the Bedford, Lexington and Arlington there's a draft maybe Carol knows about it but there's a draft report and they're talking about doing drainage improvements widening the bikeway which would be a good safety thing amenities like more benches maybe more exits off the bikeway those sorts of things well the irony is that those are all CPA eligible projects Bedford has CPA Lexington has CPA Arlington well nope straight out of the general fund so okay well thank you very much for having us I appreciate it okay now we're going to flip back to the discussion of the presentation of Warren articles and Carol's got some maps I'm just going to hear about some maps that you want to bear in mind that this is actually a slide that will be projected on the screen I think in order to show the districts that the proposed vote would allow the districts in which the proposed vote would allow the medical marijuana treatment so you want to be able to display that on a slide to our meeting members and if you're at the back of the hall this has to be a pretty high contrast slide the labels have to the street labels have to be fairly large I think it would often be preferable if the water bodies were blue just to help people orient themselves I think that's right he did prepare one with blue and I neglected to print it out for you to show it to you so this shows be three and be five the two districts you'll also provide some slides that show other districts in case they come up so that you'll have those ready to see and to refer to I would suggest that Mike if you want to you were going to put together some thinking or talking points I'd be happy to help you with that based on some of the work that the department has did on preparing the language and voting specifics and how to implement it in order to anticipate what some town meeting members might what issues they may bring up I think what we talk about this is what you're speaking to too is we'll be able to overlay a B4 on this or some other districts to really be able to show those differences on B2 and B4 and this is where when we start talking about talking points we can figure out what slide and which districts are most likely to come up in the town meeting discussion it will probably be a series of slides will have available this one and then a second one showing additional districts and then more districts or fewer so that it will appear as though they're layering I think that's a real good point what's the distance that we're trying to stay away from schools well the law says that they it's a 500 foot buffer building to building so can we put a circle around each school showing that 500 foot so people can see that or is that going to be too small let's see that's going to be small no it's the size of this it's kind of small it's the size of one of these marks on the graphic scale I think because of miles 5,200 feet so that's 2,600 right yeah 5,10,15 yeah so these are each 500 feet basically yeah so none of the districts are within 500 feet of the school but you'd have a circle about this big then well I guess what I'm saying I'm not sure if it's worth the effort if none of the districts none of the parcels fall within well the reason I mentioned it is because somebody's going to ask are you within 500 feet anywhere you can just say no or you can show them with a circle like just a dash circle maybe in order for it to be really legible we could also make it a right yellow circle around a solid a solid filled in circle sure and the school could be black so that pops out behind the circle even if the school was not even legible for the back of the hall just seeing those yellow dots and how far they are from B3, B5 communicate that question has already come up a few times so we should be clear though that's good on the schools but the law is actually a little bit broader than that and so I guess my only concern with this approach on the circles is that actually the law is any child focused building which we can't predict where they're all going they can't put everything child care facility so my fear is is that by putting those circles around there what you're doing is you're saying this is where it's verboten right you can't put them here well actually you can't put them I know that Great Expectations is on Summer Street right here so I know that you can't have one within 500 feet of that so my point is I think you're giving up actually I'd rather be able to put all those things on there and so look you can't put them anywhere here and it's still not really around here although there might be some right around here I think my concern is is that it kind of skews the law a little bit I understand what you're saying but why not say okay these are the fixed points that are child focused buildings there are others that are a little bit more interchangeable that will come up and we will have to account for all of those also but this at least shows you where the fixed points are but bear in mind that the state won't issue a license to someone it's really the state that's where that work is done it's not done at the local level I have a question that I don't know if anybody has thought about churches that have Sunday schools is that a child focus you see and I think so let's be clear about something I don't think anyone knows anything with respect to this and I think the point is and this is if you talk to certain town officials and everything else this is part of the frustration with the law is that it is so obtuse at this point so I don't think there are any answers for that another question though we need also to show Arlington Catholic that's not shown as a school I know it's not a Arlington school I haven't really told them to only put town-owned schools because we don't have control over non-town-owned schools we can't determine I mean it's been there for decades obviously but any private school if we put Arlington Catholic we would I could give you a assume that we would put other private schools but none of them we really have any control over keeping or where they would go I even put the schools I see that's good if we can't even put the circle and we can't answer any of those questions maybe we should the town does control the public schools so that's why we don't have to put them on there but that's one that I thought was a no brainer this issue of the children centering locations is going to come up in one manner or another at a minimum it's easy enough to show where the town-controlled schools are and how far they are from B3 and B5 then I think inevitably we'll have to have the discussion about how hard it is to keep the non-town-controlled child-centered locations away from B3 and B5 but that's work that the state does when they go through the licensing and permitting process with an individual applicant well I think not only that but assuming that's kind of part of the self-help to neighbors and everything else is to say hey wait a second you can't put that dispensary there because there's a dance studio there and that dance studio is so in the end I think it's going to be that which drives what all this means and not us or the town in any sense that's my understanding I don't mind having the schools on there I guess the thing I was just saying was once you get into a little bit more representation of what it means to be 500 feet around that school I guess I get a little bit more concerned that well you know what there's those yellow circles actually all over town and you know and I think that by putting the yellow circles there that's more my point I think I'm okay with putting the schools there just so you can kind of get a sense for where you are I mean in essence you want to put the water in blue but the thing that schools do is they tell people where they orient you so I don't think it's bad from an orientation perspective my only concern was putting the circle around them just gave the sense that those were the only circles and I think they're a lot more than that so that was my only point on the circles I now see your point clearly so yeah so to do the the actual report but but this is I think this little show nicely like we get some water on there good thank you Carol you're welcome, thank you the other things that we talked about I noticed in the notes about showing the regulations for a special permit those kinds of things you're also going to put in a graphic or how are you going to handle that the key points of the language of the vote yeah, no that and also then someone mentioned that we should have the the EDR requirements ready for everyone to go I had mentioned that given the fact that we have seven minutes to present I would think that that would be almost it's got to be a handout a handout or an answer oh yeah, no this is just we can't simply bullet them right there too too many I don't think you can really edit them down because they are what they are can you just put a title can they edit a bit down to that maybe what we can do is just take out the ones that are like lead, I don't know if we sustain it's a sustainable design is that important to tell meeting members considering the review the location of a medical marijuana treatment center but safety maybe I do think that the relation of buildings to environment standard is going to be important to tell meeting members that discussion because some people have observed that there is a distinction in appearance between the growing facility and the dispensing facility but there is nothing to compel the board to approve something that looks like a warehouse in one of your business districts you can tell your standard would be that whether dispensing or growing it has to look like it belongs in commercial districts so I think that that's a standard that I think some town meeting members would want to hear about so maybe Mike can take the standard and maybe we can get most relevant to and then you can reference the rest of them by 11.06 of the zoning bylaw here's the ones that would be the most appropriate and you can explain their signage rather stronger than ours so signage which the reason we didn't touch it was because the state is but you could point that out that's going to be our criteria but the state is even more stringent yeah okay we'll work something out and another one that Andrew brought up was the board should be prepared to review state permitting and dimension of towns working with the draft of the proposal those are notes that you probably have yeah I mean I think we don't personally know much about the state but I think we can get some of that Christine from Jordan that's really going to be Christine on that and mention the town's working group that was good when you presented that let everybody know that who was in on it the town has been thinking about this right yeah no that definitely is it is nice to have the minutes so it's definitely true yeah the minutes help oh and if everyone's okay with that agenda item maybe we can move to that which is our last agenda item which is the minutes last minute I'm going to start down the other end I think they look great good Andrew I had one change on page 2 where it says Mr. Fitzsimons moved and then it says Mr. Bonnell recommended no action those two sentences need to be flipped or perhaps my recommendation is no action goes somewhere else but certainly not after versus motion are we about halfway down the page this is actually on the third page right third page third page we have Mr. what are the two again right here we recommend no action after this this is motion here it is paragraph I think we just flip flopped the two sentences you recommend a new action then Mr. okay I do have a few that's my one and these are mostly for clarity and you guys can lead to me if you want to so this would be the paragraph on the first page that starts with Mr. fourth one okay what material I'd like this to read Mr. Pinsky asked what material will replace the formal patio at the door that was eliminated so after the word patio we would scratch the rest of that sentence and the whole next sentence because then I'd like to read second Pinsky asked what material will replace the former patio at the door that was eliminated is that correct and I think that's a little clearer and so you then scratch what we now we'd scratch Mr. Holland replied that mulch is now proposed rather than landscaping I think we can scratch that sentence also and just say Mr. Holland commented that he thought it was a landscape bed with a road I thought that it was a landscape bed with a road I think that would be clearer also okay then if you go two paragraphs down from that Mr. Zeefrid said they had encountered a ledge at the wall area just say ledge then the next paragraph I'd like to add a sentence after the one that says the board for detail on the trees and plants removed as a result of the parking changes I remember commenting Mr. Pinsky commented that the space is now very cramped and the landscape area has been substantially reduced making the wall more exposed and the parking artwork I can give this to you yes because we didn't say anything about area being more cramped and that parking space being very awkward where it was okay then the next Mr. Upton commented that the wall pinning was an extremely technically challenging task causing space to be shifted from the entry to the public sidewalk from the entry building entry to the public sidewalk for the yeah entry area just to say why that area became so squeezed is this worthy or not really through the sidewalk actually what I can do is take these in red for you because I don't know if you can read my notes I can hardly read them that might be easier okay and then the very last paragraph on that page Mr. Pinsky stated that this is detectable should be warning strip instead of wearing strip is no longer needed actually like warrant and I think Katja's name is appropriate somehow Katja's name have a Y yes it's A-A-T-Y and P-O-D-S-I-A-D-L-O right and then the very last sentence I'd like to change it to Mr. Pinsky asked why the pavers at the entry were removed they were trying to say that is that on the same page in the same paragraph so is this a new sentence it's the last sentence that yeah you had this oh my name's felt wrong too I'm a Pinsky now how does that happen to yourself I don't know she probably doesn't have it in hers no it would be in there earlier anyhow Mr. Pinsky instead of saying continue to say change the material that wasn't present before it didn't make sense to me I think what we were talking about was I asked why the pavers at the entry were removed and then so just say Mr. Pinsky asked why the pavers were removed pavers at the entry okay and I can give you this so you can start writing okay how long is it I'll be giving it to Amy I'll type it okay and email to you and you can just that's not true no that's easier sure about getting it right yeah then the next paragraph I wanted to add one sentence to that paragraph also Mr. Pinsky requested that materials such as colored asphalt or applied resin materials such as imprint be considered to designate the drop off okay that's very good okay the second to the last paragraph Mr. Fitzsimmons mentioned that the question arose of whether one can apply before getting a license did we mean one can apply for a location for a special permit for a special permit yeah that changed too so I was going to say right after the word apply insert the phrase for a special permit okay which page second paragraph second paragraph in the end Mr. Fitzsimmons Mr. Fitzsimmons stated that the warrant article is straightforward no the question arose of whether one can apply for a special permit correct okay then on the last page the paragraph that starts with Mr. Kair about the middle of the page turn to article eight the second to the last sentence for the board of selectmen this will be reported I think on is it out? is it out? is that the right time? oh okay okay okay I think that's it I can't read my writing on this last one I see I did this later you should do it I did do it just to continue the torture at the first page up at the heading we were in the town hall annex second floor conference room instead of the selectmen's hearing room in the about halfway down the page the paragraph that starts with the words after explaining some minor exterior building alterations in the last where it says one stop moved outside so it would stop with one parking space was moved outside or one spot or one spot spot instead of stop parking space sounds better though that's clear on the second page the third paragraph that starts Eric Anderson stated that the word should be it not is that it will be graded out of it and then I think it's the ninth paragraph that begins with Lorelai colleague of Brattle Street the last sentence where it says she knows it had been moved it is a little vague for me so I would just save the van and then on the last page about the fourth or fifth paragraph from the bottom that starts with miss Kowalski reported on the status of the master plan this edits in the second sentence would be Mr. Fitzsimmons asked with respect to the community preservation act comma if the master plan advisory board advisory committee advisory board it's actually a committee isn't it I'm sorry I was worried with respect to the community preservation act comma if the master plan advisory committee committee planned to discuss their position et cetera it might be helpful to separate those two paragraphs too are that paragraph where it starts the board decided to hold April 7th that should be a new paragraph because that's a whole nother thought yeah just one thing which is on the second page Carol it's about a little more than halfway down Mr. Friedman mentioned that an outdoor fireplace was present and that this feature was not allowed Mr. Kare stated that he expected the fire chief would and then I get rid of be notified and asked to so that this now says Mr. Kare stated that he expected the fire chief would inspect the outdoor fireplace Mr. Kare stated that he expected the fire chief would inspect the outdoor fireplace we didn't say that we were going to notify him we're not taking on any duty to do that I mean that's just part of the permitting process that's it okay sorry Carol that's so good we will next time we'll skip Christine the only thing it did it bought me time while I had a sneezing fit I moved to approve the minutes has amended and then so second all in favor thank you Carol you're welcome so we now have meetings scheduled for April 7th which is next week and then again uh on April 28th so what is the 14th is that so? it's our free night well the thing is the one thing we'd have for next week would probably be hopefully the report on I'm not sure what we've got for agenda items yet for April 7th do you Carol? do we have anything I think I can check for you I guess I'm just trying to figure out you know keep it on your calendars but I guess April 7th? we have we do have something yes that's what it was exactly what it was and the next week or I'm sorry Patriots Day so well Carol that's okay we can figure it out so right now we're scheduled for a meeting next week depending upon what we have to talk about we'll see whether that makes sense but for right now the schedule is the 7th okay then no it doesn't have details that's fine yeah so right now we're scheduled so that's what it is and we'll figure out whether we've got something okay so anybody this is where we strike Carol Bruno exactly exactly I move to adjourn anyone want to second alright all in favor? aye