 And here at the planet computers booth and hi, who are you hi? I'm David a city of planet computers This is the second day here at Mobile World Congress and We are so happy to just went live with the integration with the Ola So so now this is like a commercial version, right? Correct. This is the commercial release that we have for Yola for sale fish X So so is there full support full full OS? Yes, and they're doing full support on your device Yes, that's correct And there are two versions a trial version which is free and a full commercial version. We can see that in there Yes, so This is the end results And this is just a preview of Partition that Customers can use to personalize their Gemini experience And as you can see we have a few We have a list with a few operating system. You can choose to run on the Gemini We have under it. You have some Linux versions and what we added now is a safe OS And when you choose to download The software which is composed of the base sort of a base firmware class with safety choice You can get redirected to the Yola shop where you can find the firmware As I said before there is a free trial which is not limited in time And other safety checks devices and there is a full commercial version 29 euro and potentially there might be some partnerships where it's actually going to be pre-installed the full And then it says App support and This this one right here Support It's so cool that your company able to have all these Software working look this has always been one of our goal since the very beginning. Of course, we are very small companies, so We probably we have been Slower than what we would have like growing right if you guys around one guy over there This is the core I Yeah, I'm eager I'm doing some vacation programming for the German night. So what kind of stuff do you do? well, I don't know everything that comes in handy for this this device, so like application for taking notes and application for for you can show The latest on application the notes application and and a few others And they're really like optimized for productivity, right? Yeah, you made a nice the keyboard and the keyboard And you have a nice a wide view. It's important And no pop-up keyboards is optimized for no pop-up keyboard. That's right. That's right so you can take some great notes and You can also do the other The latest map So this is where your program your pattern, which you can say shit Nice five nice LEDs right here for notifications. Yes, you can have them custom color and everything You can choose any any any any pattern you'd like and so shit with it with the event and one of the other apps you have to What is that database application to manage databases Is this a real you using it right now? Yeah, of course the private information. Oh, no, no, it's not sensitive. Okay, and how about Don't you have a calendar also? Calendar was done by by Mark Lawrence not by me. All right Well, and maybe there's more and more stuff to do Of course, of course you have well, so for cause we will see so we have a new screen. We have to accommodate certain certain Certain specification from the current application So what are you going to be able to do in that on the Cosmo right here? You have some plans? Of course all the applications have certain function also you have to accommodate for the external screen So the user can can do certain stuff without opening the phone. It's a lot of work, right? Of course, it's but it's gonna be a very interesting challenge It's gonna be great in the end. Yeah, it's gonna be really cool Hopefully you can just do all the stuff people might be dreaming about right here. Just a nice little integration Somehow a smart very smart, right? Yeah optimize the UI Yeah, that's gonna be cool. All right. Thanks. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Cool. Do you have another colleague over here? Hey Hey, what's up? Hi. Hi. I'm Eric. So who are you? I am the relationship manager at Planet Computers my job is to ensure our stock is flowing between our warehouses and To make sure our users are happy post sales So you're doing after sale support? Yes, but we also Take a take look at I also cover the logistics side of the business. So all of that is entirely on me So getting all the stuff at the right place and everything. That is correct. Yes. Yes We're sure everyone receives what they ordered and Everybody's happy. Everybody's happy. Yes There's a lot of work, right? Yes, but but it's also it's also keeping it different and it allows you to To do something different every day. So it's always a very very flexible very interesting job. You always do something new So unfortunately, I'm very unlucky. My Jimmy PDA fell in the water, right? So how many how many times have you seen this happen where people have water damage? Yes Well, well, this is it's happening, but it's not it's not a major major scale issue We've had around 10 cases and in such scenarios because obviously corrosion is a mass problem Yes, we have coffee people spilling Jews so all types of accidental damage and in such scenarios we would we would be looking to replace the part if it's replaceable And in the worst event if you've you've been able to fix them all Or half of them there are events and there are cases in which you have to replace entire devices if both the top body and the bottom body of your of the Gemini are affected Then we have to replace the entire device But we always try to the Gemini is a very very serviceable device. It's meant to last it's been designed to last So and that remains the case when it comes to service ability. Can people order spare parts? Yes, people can order spare parts. We've just recently started Sending people batteries those so the battery that goes right here correct Yes, you just send out the spare battery. What else could be spare some of our customers prefer to replace the batteries themselves Which is possible and we in that case will send a battery. Otherwise, we could also do it for them It's not that easy to replace the battery, right? Yes, it's not the simple It doesn't involve any soldiering it's more of a Lego. I like to think of it as Lego Plugging some connectors at the right place in yes, I mean able to I didn't want to try it because I was afraid Yes, but how about the keyboard some people break something in the keyboard and they can replace the keyboard is also designed So nine months my keyboard has just been perfect the whole time. Yeah, but is there been some issues without or what is the most biggest issue? The biggest issue is probably we had some issues with keyboard mats in the early model of the Gemini But this has been a change the mat But this has been fully addressed and and and we we send anyone affected a new keyboard mat So this can be updated. This is not too hard to put in behind there Yes, the keyboard is designed to be very user-replaceable and so you can change the keycaps in case any of that goes wrong anybody Break the thing when they open it up and put this in part and put it back in Very yes, we only had one case out of Thousands that had an issue with the SIM card and in that scenario unfortunately We had to replace the entire top body because that's part of the logic The biggest problem There's really no problem. Is that good? We don't really have major issues We the biggest problem the biggest problem is to us are accidental damage, but again, we deal with those Fractal damage is not much you can do like maybe it fell on the side and it cracked Yes, the Gemini is relatively the Gemini is relatively durable when it comes to screen to the screen I drop mine dozens of times and it's just fine. Yes It's it's due to mainly due to the clamshell design and you've got this plastic here Which makes it very durable when it comes to drops So this probably one of the I say major because it's it's it's not free Accidental damage is not covered by warranty It's like you have airbags in the corners or something. Yes, it's really it's really a durable design the plastic Yes, but have you had any cracked screens? We have had around ten cracked screen cases Out of ten thousand so so like less than zero point one percent. Yes Yes, our customers. Well, our customers like to look after their devices We will sell some protective bled-up pouches How about some broken mechanisms here does that never break mechanism mechanism We've recently been observing an issue with the hinge breaking this hinge here But this is something we we are looking after so like 30 issues or how many once we once we ensure that this is not Accidental damage because in a lot of cases this would be due to accident Because the customer is dropping the device once we ensure it's not that we are happy to cover it under the warranty Does the does the hinge get weak ever or the hinge many many uses? This is a very interesting subject the hinge is designed to be to be To be it's not by default It's not as solid as you as you as you open the device And some of our users have found a way to make this feel a lot more solid This is by by kind of closing the hinge slightly to the middle This makes it feel very solid. Yes, and I have actually done that myself and it's and it gives a very Solid feeling. Well, you like the most solid. Yes, but again, we don't recommend this unless if you really require Unless if your personal preference It's not recommended. Yes, there is usually no need, but Unless if you really like it do it on your own risk. Yes, so how's the experience working with planet computers experience? It's it's brilliant It's you get to do something new every day, and it's a very fast fast moving company So that is always very exciting in London. Yes. Yes. All right. So we're just next to be hired in company. Oh, well We never know Let's see let's see. I don't know we have we have a lot of work Definitely, we always had a lot of work. So At the moment we are focused at The Cosmo get in the Cosmo and if you can make it a huge success, then you definitely explain, right? I mean, definitely, you know when you when you start creating a device There is only a certain amount of feature you can put in because it's always a trade-off between what you can do and the Time you have and the challenges you get but definitely we are very we're very happy and With the Cosmo we are trying to improve The things we wanted to have probably done before like slightly better, so It's very important for us, but also Gemini is very important and that's why we have so many new things to show for the Gemini such as integration with the Oxy environment and of course 100 8.1 Which are presenting here. We did a big job to get 8.1 smooth on it Did you have to fix a lot of bugs or is it just porting over the media tech code? No, well it took us a while But we're actually quite pleased because the overall user experience seems to be much better and some Parts of the system are apparently more refined like for example the Bluetooth Connections they seem to be they seem to improve a lot and so we are quite happy. They're still finalized in a few tests and Once everything is ready will will push it out as a nice welcome update And the battery life changes or maybe it's hard to measure, right? I don't yes. I don't have actually, you know because you always test Development unit with usually already attached to USB cable, so I haven't actually tested myself So definitely the customer is going to be with Android 9, right? Yes. Is there any chance that Gemini is going to get it here? Unfortunately, no, I don't think so because The chipset provider media tech doesn't have any plan as far as I know to provide Android 9 on the X27 And that's the requirement. How about if something happens over in the Let's say the oxy OS or somebody uses oxygen OS based, you know, even just a lineage It's all it would be possible theoretically would be possible to have I guess an Android 9 Running some through the lineage. Maybe not maybe not officially from Google, but yeah, hopefully with the fast GPU drivers That's why I'm going to a better world right now Yeah, I'm gonna check if there's some news about the open source Mali drivers Yeah, and if there is there will be a big deal for you too, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. We are just we have you know, the more open source The more systems we have running on the Gemini that the happier it makes it. So absolutely