 Presenting first is Anna Nierke-Nielsen. She's from Olboa University and today she will talk about breaking the wall of sustainable school renovation. Big round of applause ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much. You can start. Yeah so today I will be breaking the wall of sustainable school renovation and more precisely I will talk about decision-making in the early stages of school renovation projects. So why focus on renovating our buildings? That's because in Denmark around 40% of our energy usage is made from the from our buildings and also our buildings last long so there's a huge potential in renovating our buildings for reducing the energy usage. But sustainability is not only about reducing energy it's also about other factors such as social sustainability, how the buildings look, how we feel walking around in them, economic sustainability, how is the life cycle cost of the building run and the energy usage and how the building will perform. So why focus on school renovation and the school buildings? That's because a lot of our school buildings in Denmark are very old and worn out and also in 2014 we had a new school reform which entails some new demands in our building to meet these new ideas. So all of this concept of sustainability can be very complex. We have a lot of different parameters that we have to take into account and in that case it's very difficult for the building owner to choose which schools to renovate and in which order this should be done. So what I want to make is a decision support tool that can help the public building owner to make this private rotation and find out the order of the renovation actions. And the way I'm going to do this is through an action research approach that I'm doing in close relation to the municipality in Olbo. So in that way the tool that I will be inventing is something that is both producing knowledge because it's a PhD project of course but also it will be something that can help them in their work with these things and in that case it will be very close to to their practice. Yeah so that's basically it. Before time. Thank you. Impressive with 15 seconds to spare as well. So let's start by asking the jury if you guys have any questions. There's the mic right there. Sensation. In your words what's wrong with the way we do it now. I don't think there's anything wrong with the way we do it now but it's it's a very complex area and what I see when I talk to the public buildings owner building owners is that the way they do it now they kind of invent the method from the beginning every time they do it. So what I want to do is to make it easier for them and for me if I can make something that can make the process easier with the schools then it can be easy to apply for other kind of buildings like when you're doing children's institutions or cultural buildings or other in other building areas as well. Absolutely. So when you say decision tool could it be a little bit more concrete as to exactly how you think this will be implemented. Yeah. So the problem is that there are many different criteria when you talk about a renovation and it's often some conflicts and criteria as well. And in historically you have mostly looked into like energy usage and economy. But when you have want to have a holistic approach to sustainability it's sometimes very hard to kind of wait and prioritize these criteria. So what I want to make is something that can make it easier for them to kind of put their values into this tool so they can use that again and again or if they want to put it against some assessment tool like DDNB or other certification systems. Could you tell us a bit about what happens to people that live inside the old buildings going down buildings. I mean it's you don't talk much about the teachers or the pupils inside. No of course the users are very central when we talk about any building and school buildings as well. And some of the things are of course the physical indoor environment like the air quality and things like that. And we see that the air quality in our existing school is not very good. And also what the challenges are the new idea presented in the school reform for instance put some new demands on the old buildings because the new way of teaching like you want to introduce more movement and you want to make flexible rooms and that all it gives some new possibilities in the school. So the renovation is not only about energy usage. No it's about sustainability in a whole. So yeah one thing is the energy usage but it's more about the other values as well and the social parameters like the values of a school building that can underline the way of teaching that the teachers want to do in today. I'm a bit curious how is this tool you're developing sounds very interesting. Is it building on existing tools in this area or is it something you have developed from scratch so to say. I haven't developed it yet. It's on the idea plane but it's I'm not sure if it's going to be a digital tool. I think it will. But otherwise it will be a method that can that can help in this area. It's the similar tools right now like like that one you're in visiting or. Yeah there are. So what I want to do is make something that is can be used in the municipality of Olbo in the first place and to help improve their practice and then later it can be scaled for other public buildings and also for what's that called. Yeah people who owns a lot of buildings in general and not only the public building owners. Are you communicating with concrete actors in this one with specific schools or specific interest groups at the municipality. Yeah so I'm in a close collaboration with the municipality of Olbo and then I'm following different renovation school renovation projects in Olbo as well in different stages also. So this is also a discussion because this is more actually on a political level because you have to prioritize between your buildings. So the users are not involved at this stage. It's more that only happens when you have actually chosen the building and you start the renovation project there. Great. Any more questions from the jury final question. No. Great. Can I borrow your mic real quick. Great. Thank you. Audience. Any questions from you guys. Anything we were thinking. I really got to know about that one thing. She didn't address that particular topic. Yes ma'am. I knew that would get something. There you go. Thank you. Can you just start by telling us your name real quick. Yes. My name is Lee Covina. I'm a PhD candidate visiting from the Netherlands and now in the Humanities Department. I was wondering you talk about the political level and you follow some schools. Do you know of any is there any demand from the side of the school owners the homeowners because you said I'm not sure if they're doing anything wrong now. I just want to make it more efficient. Is there a large demand from that side as well. Yeah. There are from from the people I have talked to and that's that's the whole reason why I have ended up with having this focus. That's because as I see it now that's their main challenge because in all of our they have actually been been doing a lot of this work and they have been out mapping the the schools existing tools to see how how does it look now. And they have been doing a lot of work in the prior rotation of this and also to choose which buildings it is. But they also see a lot of things in the process that they would like to improve. And and again they they would like to do this more easily transferable to the other building types as well. Great. Thank you Anna. Everyone a big round of applause for Miss Anna. Thank you. So I'm going to give you guys one minute to reflect on the presentation and also ask the audience to take a few minutes reflect on what she just said and score your marks.