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Okay, so now We were going to be talking about the I did at Paul McCartney was in another band before he was in wings But I got an important call telling me that we promised to do or I had promised to do Another thing on Columbus the way it used to be because I didn't finish last time. I only got started so We're gonna continue with that. It's the Rattigan raving hour again And I'll be does not drink talking about how Columbus used to be or as I remember it Which may or may not be out actually was because you know memories are subjective Perhaps Columbus is only a figment of your imagination. Well, it seems that way now because it's certainly in the way It used to be as far as things were and so I'll just jump in there It's like I was talking about most of the most of the things I talked about last time were downtown Although I did kind of get around to the the shopping centers the big ones at least the big the big three is like um well, I stayed mostly downtown, but um Going back downtown there. There were still some things that I did not talk about Let me see. I know I mentioned Woolworths downtown the idea that they Well, it is still there true, but they used to have a Big food counter right up front there and it was this big Elsie the cowhead that used to be back there It was like a big rubber no wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let me get this straight The big entertainment Columbus was a good out of Woolworth looking the front window look at Elsie the cow and watch people eat No Food here there was there was food there They used to have like pizza and stuff there and they would have it right there in there But now it's kind of moved over to the side there They still have it they still do have it and they had like a diner a little Diner kind of counter there and it's right over to the side there That's actually still there so but it's like the inside of Woolworth's has just kind of changed a little anyway Downtown on Spring Street right there about spring and high There was this trailer And in that trailer you could get the best Kony's sort of best Kony's in the city And I'm not sure whether it was either one of the two it was probably one of the two Trailer Kony Trailer Bob Kony There's like there's like George's and there's Phillip's it was one of those two But I'm not sure which one was actually there in that trailer But then they took out that trailer and they put in a they put in a lums A lums right there on that corner and lums was around for quite a while and then it became a Lums went out and then it's like an Oriental restaurant now, and I just don't know if people feel safe going there anyway Several things have happened there there was them Across the street and down a bit well south of there was the clock restaurant, which may still be there But they used to have this great big clock out front and it was really great clock down on high Well, but it was a big clock with a face on it, and it had like a Boon for one hair manna and a fork for the other it was a big cartoon face on his clock It was it was cool It's not confusing with like Lucy's toy shop. No, no, no, this is a big You sure you were hallucinating I'm not thinking about grandfather clock on Captain Kangaroo either But it was it was this big clock that used to sit out in front of the clock restaurant I mean there is an actual That used to be down there and then um, let's see if you go further down high street south on high street in your turn on town street there which you can't do anymore because then you'll be running smack into the city center, but um anyway there used to be um a Great old bookstore right there and from that old bookstore Grew the Wizard of Comets because they they were in there, and then they they moved out of there and about old the Middle later 70s they moved out of there and they moved north on high street to where um an old old um Dime store used to be and then they were there for a while, but then they moved further up high street up north of the The Drexel north well, it wasn't the Drexel north then but well Yes, it was it was the Drexel north by then and they were there for a while And then they moved over on Indianola and spread out to other other places But then they just kind of fizzled out so they're no longer around anymore either and that's another thing and then Let's see if you're you were downtown there. You're on town street. There used to be a Chinese restaurant right there. Um Ho-toy, I believe it was and it was there it was there But it was you know it was no it's not on town street more because that's not very well Who remembers the names of the street and but then they built over on um Street because this way and the street over on State Street. They put in a a Burger King and The Burger King went out and that's where Ho-toy moved to her. Ho-toy's still there. Anyway, um, there was this um Okay, and I mentioned Burger King there. Let's let's go back way back back into time when in Columbus there were only two Kinds of hamburgers frog with ice and that was in there. No, no, no, no, no, no stop that That was that was really only one hamburger chain. I guess you could call it really Back then it was White Castle They used to have several locations around town in fact I think one of the first if not the first one was on fifth and now it's at the zoo Well, they they moved that when they moved the whole building out from where it was at the corner of fifth and Fifth and now fifth in Cleveland and they moved it and that building is now on the fairground I mean not fair Because that was when I moved up here and they had one of that cast north high north They're Arcadia, which they just kind of redid and modernized. There was one over on Fourth Street just just just south of Long Street And they used to be kind of like along the side of a building and it was right there There was one on main that was kind of along the side of a building over by where the police station is now But you know what and those just kind of all went and then they said well now There should be other hamburger places. So in the early 60s Sandies was created. Sandies was the hamburgers were 15 cents And they had this little Scottish girl in a kilt in the Tam and she was had one leg up She was doing the doing the jig Scottish jigs thing there and that was Sandy's restaurant and that was actually before McDonald's became real popular in Columbus. There was a McDonald's in Columbus But actually it was in Whitehall and it was an old one. It was in it was on Hamilton Road just South of Broad Street and this one was so old. It had the old it was a hamburger headed guy Hamburger headed chef guy and he had a little sign there and on the thing he would be walking and there were neon I remember those lights on the on the arches And he was up there and I think their hamburgers were like 15 cents at that time, too Wait a minute. There was one place. I don't know if you mentioned it before but the name cracks me up um Big boy's burger world or something. Well, hold on now. I'll get to that I'll get to that over on over on living like a burger in a burger No, no on Livingston they had the what was called the the big boy mainliner and it was um Excuse me. Oh, I know that was fun. That was one of the um One of the old burger places that had where you could drive up and they'd come over the girls would skate over and put The tray on your window and and do all that now is the place where you could get hamburgers to and of course Then you had your your big boys, which were elbies here elbies big boys and all they had the burgers and everything but then um Down from there at allam creek and Livingston they put in the bbf burger boy food With the whirling satellite. Don't I just sound like a place you could graze all day like you go in for breakfast bar and If you stay through dinner, well, actually they just add um burgers and fries and like uh, Soft drinks and just put a chop in front of you drop you every hour We're basically their their main thing at that time and um, mr. Happy the clown We had this poke at that. Well this um Well flipo had a blue suit mr. Happy had a white suit with colorful um Pom poms on it and a little little bowler derby hat and he kind of looked like a big bag of wonder bread Out of the idea, but anyway, it just kind of looks like that now that I think about it But he um, he was the spokes clown for burger boy or bbf a clown for for burgers I I don't know Kings, you know haven't figured that out like a prevailing scene in the burger world their big thing And well mcdonalds had the golden arches bbf had the whirling satellite which is this it was it was a real 60s thing because Satellite space things, you know It was this satellite had these um Things sticking out of them. They were supposed to be like antennas, but there were several of them And they were all different colors too And it would it headed it would turn on its axis So half it was going one way half it was going the other way and then the whole thing would like spin around So it was like a well you could like watch it and get sick while you ate almost It wasn't really spinning fast. It was spinning slowly you'd get bored really You'd watch it and then your food would be ready So it was it was it was that idea and then they um There were there were several bbs around town and then mcdonalds got to be popular So there were several mcdonalds around town. They went into competition against each other It's like well mcdonalds had their their hamburgers and their fries and and the Back then you could not drink a milk I don't know if the milkshakes have gotten runnier since then or what But it's like you could not drink a milk shake without like sucking your usual out or sucking your cheeks all the way into each other and stuff That was but anyway, they had those good I always thought like white castle had the best. Well, they won't make but see I had to drive I thought well, I couldn't drive because I was like a little kid, but Since I lived in Lebanon, we had to go to Cincinnati for white castle We had no way to this day. Lebanon does not have a white castle. It's such a culturally deprived place But to some people that could be a good thing that there was no white castle close by But white castle used to always have Their their their main attraction for me was their orange drink because nobody else had that orange drink He'd go to he'd go to mcdonalds or bbf and want to get that head never the same as the orange drink They had it white castle. That was just that special orange drink And they always had that special flavor for their hamburgers too. It was it was called leftover Well, it was it was different. It was it was it was neat. Well white castle Yeah, you know no matter where you go white castle tastes the same. They do like big old steamed up onions It's kind of a scary thing, but yet it's true. I don't really I used to wonder was it meat on there? Well, several people still do or exactly what type of meat it is, but that's that's not necessarily an issue here But there um they went through a whole thing too with mcdonalds and all those about having a hundred percent beef hamburgers after a while It's like somebody complained or something that they didn't think it was all hundreds of beef And so they had to go up with their hundreds of beef hamburger thing and just make a big deal out of that And that was when they still had the uh the paper The paper wrapper and well sandy said the paper wrapper bbf had the paper wrapper everybody had the paper wrapper Everybody's gone back to the paper. They've gone back to the paper wrapper now after going through their little boxes Well true white castle did always have the boxes and they still do and the best shape they were they were um Sticklers for that and that was kind of their thing because they had a little picture of the the castle was on the box And that was that was their thing to do So they they stuck with it and they never changed where mcdonalds and everybody else has gone through their styrofoam phase craze and they've gone away from that but before they did the styrofoam thing they had um McDonald's had a roast beef sandwich that was in a It was in like a cardboard box, which I guess they let me see do they do anything in a cardboard box now? I don't I don't know. I haven't worked there for like Eon, but they um They had these great roast beef sandwiches in this cardboard box and they had a little packet of barbecue sauce Which was some of the best barbecue sauce that any fast food place had but at that same time They were going into competition against arabies who had their roast beef sandwiches and And Wait a minute. What was it? It was jacks jacks. Yeah jacks roast beef Jacks that went to ricks that went to I know they went through so many name changes down in In middle town. Yeah, it was it was jacks that it was ricks and now it's racks Which it is now, but um No, there was no red barn here. There was Cincinnati Red barn in cleveland red barn had best hot dogs. You couldn't get hot dogs anywhere else chicken Well, I like the hot dogs It is like you couldn't get hot dogs anyplace else in the entire world when you were out shopping Denison's and that everywhere except the red barn and they toasted the buns red barn and you didn't have red barn We did not have red barn here, but they had a red barn in Athens They had one in middle town didn't they had one in no, I don't think there was one in middle town Okay, then I must be thinking about the winning Athens because I could remember going through there No, there was one in middle town was there if it wasn't middle town it was someplace So in between I think it would I think they had one in middle town I'm almost sure they did Anyway, but they had one in Athens too, but not around here not around Columbus. No, we were stuck with full McDonald's and bbf and you know Okay, McDonald's had there their roast beef sandwich and then everybody else the roast beef places Opened up with oh Arby's and her jamoka shakes that and Jacks that you just had the roast beef sandwich burger chef. Excuse me. Hey, oh, yeah Yeah, we had burger chef too because burger chef opened up after Burger king got here because burger kings weren't here either But then after mcdonald's and everything was doing well They put in burger king and then there was burger chef And they just had all these burger places and then um burger chef with the amazing mushroom burger McDonald's decided I guess that they could not do the roast beef sandwich well anymore So they stopped that like they have strived to do it well They stopped that and they did started doing the um The big mac And then they did the quarter pounder. Hey, that's like the 800th anniversary of big mac. Well, let's see the 20 25th or 20th Okay, the 20th anniversary shelf life of the big mac shows how long it's been since they did their roast beef Sandwich and I think the roast beef sandwich was probably one of their best sandwiches I mean since then they did what uh the chopped beef steak, which was like what old military surplus Bam And they've done several things. I mean they came up. That's what no place has A spam restaurant. Well now spam burger Would you really want to go to a spam burger restaurant people that would Spam in the place where you live a turkey burger either now the ground turkey is very good That's true. Nobody opened up a ground turkey burger restaurant Um, I guess it would just be too darn easy. They'd rather have sliced turkey and things like that which racks is Taking off with racks and Arby's are kind of doing those now and um Let's see We did not have casanos until later. But y'all didn't have laurosis. Did you no no laurosis came out of Cincinnati That's where you had the best sandwiches for uh, Italian sandwiches The best hoagies what you call them up here. Well, some marine sandwiches, whatever Go ahead Okay, then um, well, I'm getting bored with the burgers burger boy food aroma. They uh burger boy food I mean they did onion rings things like that and then they got bought out by um a local company Borden's so they became borden burger And they got rid of the satellite they got rid of mr. Happy And Elsie don't go on a date with Elsie That was that was like a big thing there And they they were the ones that would buy all the they would go to the fair and buy the callows and things, you know the Elsie be messing around on elmer. She can get rid of the And it was I guess it was right around that time that um, the windy started up too when um, well it was just before borden borden brought out dbf But after they did it was like they had conies there and you could get cracker jacks there and just all kinds of things Fazed in and then it just kind of phased out altogether So by the late the end of the 70s there was no more borden burger. It was just gone. It was all gone. It was out of there And um, that's those things when you find out what elmer's glue is made out of Or you start questioning what it's made out of And you wonder how much of that stuff you stuck in your mouth But well, there we are. So um, or it's like I informed my daughter the other day what's in jello Well, we don't have to buy jello no more Yeah, she certainly won't eat it if we do but um, let's see So that's a that's a that's another restaurant that just kind of Fazed out of there. Well lums lums lasted for a while, but then lums faged up That's about when maxin urma maxin urma came in so maxin urma's still going strong But um, let's see there was um What's that for pizza? Well there It was what tomies. Yeah, I could find those you didn't have a road there were no You didn't have a tally net but then leavening was the only place in the world that had a tally net There were no big Chain pizza places. I mean tomies was about the closest that columbus came to having more than one place with the same name on it that serve pizza and um None of them were you weren't able to eat inside any of them either until later on when they built the one over On squalors There was no eat inside pizza place. There just wasn't until um somewhere in the early 70s they Brought in this this pizza hut thing. No, wait a minute back up. Hold the phone. There was one There was one Shakey's Shakey's old-time pizza parlor They had the piano which which we never really went there until after The ghost of mr. Chicken was real popular and we go there and we'd see the piano player It's a ghostly piano, but it was cool. The only and then they painted the they painted the keys all with the uh, the Black light Fluorescent thing. There was the black light. It was cool. I think she'll movies old Battle cartoons and stuff and it had the banjo guys playing and that was some good pizza And they really really was the hell out of you if you went in on your birthday Well, I never went on a pizza with a candle in it Sangrel bad But then shakey's kind of known for that. Let's have pizza and sing bad That was the whole shakey would make it now beat the heck out of karaoke These were actual people sing with actual music singing actually badly But they probably want to get paid actually a lot of money to the Think go around and do that Of course, then if you're an employee at a place like that, it's kind of written into your contract that you will do this speaking of which there was um, what was the the the um The ice cream place that would do that Uh feral feral never eat the pig trough never let never let your best friend get you drunk Take you to feral's in order to pig trough and eat the whole thing. There was okay. That's just that's just I think there were at least a couple of feral's around here, but there aren't any more but they Feral's would do the big thing with the uh the singing to you the big ice cream thing Of course, if you if you were like hungry and you needed money And you didn't have no money But you were hungry and you were out running around and you go to feral's And you could like because they never asked for ID or anything You could go in and say hey, it's my friend's birthday, you know And then you got your ice cream for free if it was like your birthday So like they bring over this huge thing of ice cream. It's not like I would actually try this But you'd get this huge bunch of ice cream for free and you'd eat it and anything Have your birthday and you'd act like it was your birthday and you'd act real stupid and then you'd leave Okay, well there we are And then well, let's see. Okay, so pizzas has taken off here. Let's look at another thing. Um, Mexican food there was originally taco bell and there was one taco bell It seemed like it was out on hamilton road there once again. It was on hamilton road Over in white hall and it was like, uh, maybe go to taco bell, you know, maybe not It wasn't it had to be there for a while before he really got in I mean because tacos you'd you'd get them you bite into them. They fall apart. Well, that's the point of that Then burritos. Well burritos that was an interesting idea I'll take a bite and I'll come out the other end. No, no, you'd do it right Well, you don't bite into the middle of a burrito because then you've got two burritos One of them has an opening in it. The other one doesn't. Yeah, but you get these new new burrito makers These these new young inexperienced burrito makers and you get it But so then there was there was taco bell and they had their own sauce their own size of burritos and everything and then there was Tijuana taco and Tijuana taco had the biggest burritos and they were great It was a lot of there was a lot of cheese in there They had a wonderful sauce and they stayed around for a while Then they kind of phased out but after they phased out there was van teego And van teego had each of them beat because they had a better burrito and they had a better sauce And it was wonderful and van teego did great and then Van teego kind of they got bought out by taco bell and so taco bell just became the The mexican food the taco king the burrito bandit and they took over everything and we missed Carlos García. Well, Carlos García when it started up. It was what lives but wonderful great Because they had the biggest Burritos their their their tortillas their tortillas were twice as big They were twice as big They used two of them Because that's what i'm talking about. They used two of them. They thought it was columbus culture though That's a lot of Restaurants columbus a great place to eat but you wouldn't live here Tom Petty said it weirdo fast Fast food capital in the Midwest And um, but they had these Honestly fired two tortillas and they weighed a pound at least maybe a couple pounds And it was good They were great, but um Well, and Carlos kind of went and ran into some trouble there and it We kind of phased out of course there was chi chi's with chi chi's because kind of Look up the word what it means I don't know It's okay, but it just never matched may has measured up to the fast food the fast um Mexican food places But there we are on that God remember people used to come up here just for chi chi's. Yeah well Oh Oh, and there was big bite too big bite had big bites I remember just because they had like um, it was a A pita thing it was a pocket bread thing a pocket pita kind of thing And then there was another store that had had a multi-grain bun But they went out of business too and big bites gone and all these places are just gone So we're gone. I guess we have to go to now See you next time. I'm gonna have to do another one of these So Wilbur can fuss about that But I guess I'll just have to say that for next time we do one of these so For us here well at least for this portion of bass wasteland I'll see you next time