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It's just kind of spun for a minute Welcome to a I'm sitting here on a Sunday stream because it's not nice outside I wanted to go outside and do things but I see no if I'm not going to go outside new things So this rainy and wet here in Detroit today that I will Play with a few more things on this super micro lab server And I'm going to do an actual review, but I wanted some Feedback so if there's anyone hanging out on a Sunday that doesn't usually get to watch my live streams that they're regularly scheduled time of roughly Thursdays at four Eastern standard time then I said hey, why not jump in it today and Do some playing with this and of course the first thing I noticed on this server was I booted it all up and it in Windows needs an update because these are some virtual machines right here This is the super micro Server that is Basically on loan from super micro for us to do some demos and testing with it Unfortunately, I do have to return it that time of return is coming up So I'm finalizing my review and going to go over to some of the hardware in it Like I said, that'll be a full in-depth video But this is more of just some of the lab playing things on here Now I loaded a couple different operating systems on this which includes doing free NAS scale and the I didn't bother videoing any of that and I probably won't because the problem I had with the True NAS scale I said free NAS. I think I meant true NAS. This is why we edit in what my production is way more concise the problem with the true NAS scale system is performance and it turns out That this system despite being really really fast still did not perform Outstanding with scale. It was kind of quirky too I it didn't work very well. I kept having some problems with it Um, yeah, everyone's doing updates sunday's update day, right? So we'll go ahead and kick this update off And what we got here though is the super micro server and by the way, I'm using stream yard So I can do fun things like this. Uh, so hey nick. I feel you're paying on the updates. I can For sure. So sitting here doing updates updates failed. Oh, that's fun because you know Windows, so let's uh This this is why we don't update windows in live live streams Oh, now it worked. He's got to press it twice. That's the secret to windows updates. Just press the button twice because Windows, you know people are gonna be like tom quit hating on windows. Come on Who doesn't It's easy. They there's such low hanging fruit for being such a big company and all the poor ways a lot of this works Uh Nonetheless, um windows updates likely will result in bsd Yeah, well, there's a reason I always recommend running windows as a virtual machine whenever possible Because then we can just revert back to the non BS bsod version and then Do it again and do it again and oh cool. We can do this again now restart Getting ready. Do not turn off your computer Now these are all virtual machines running on this super micro super server One of the reasons i'm doing all the updates on this is because it's really stupidly fast. This machine is going um, it's got Let's just show you the storage in here. So the storage is NVMe zfs drives and these things are really really fast sort of first time i've seen windows Just perform really really well Um, but the the impressiveness is these are NVMe drives put into A zfs array. There's five of these drives in here and actually we can start logging in the things, right? Because that's what you need to do. Let me clear what's on the screen here tmux. Whoops there we go and uh Make it a little bit bigger people like to see what's in these windows, right? So that's the ssh into it root at 192 168 33 dot 232. There we go there we go and uh Yeah, so there's the drives here. This is a puzzle to me why these ones have this name and this one doesn't I haven't really figured that out They just do um, I added them as their device names, but it's not specific inside of zfs Which way they have to be named um and it imports the pools because order doesn't matter in zfs So it imports them when I reboot but they have different sometimes these ones will be like NVMe and their number other times They'll be with this id here. So I thought that was kind of strange. Um Just odd so, uh You just return from xcp and g uh from proxmox so much happier. Uh now a video. Yeah, you know Jay's going back and forth and looking at this as well j from learn Linux tv Sorry, he's a good friend. So I just say j a lot but With j he's he really does like proxmox because of the container support now container support looks like it's coming to xcp And g I'm not I I seen some announcements. I tweeted them if you follow their blog. They're talking about it Um, but the overall I mostly run VMs. I don't have any containers So I'm perfectly fine with the way it works inside of here with the VMs and it works really really well So let's go back over here, but you can see that these are NVMe drives The reason I bring it up is because let's go ahead and Play with this a little bit. Matter of fact, let's play with it like this. I got to put the password back in Where did it go? Here we go. I have a uh, I've talked about this before on my channel. I use screen connect for remote access remote control of things So send control its elite. Um, even our lab systems have Stupidly complicated passwords. So That's how I it's easier to put the password in it because it's it's a whole series of characters And I would type it a couple times wrong Uh, but if I paste it in from The password manager is so much easier But this these servers actually run quite fast It's the same matter of fact when to kind of give you a weird double view When you you can see where I'm moving things it moves it on the VM from here. We can just control it from inside the VM That's why it says your your computer is being controlled by cloud account administrator That's that's my uh pseudo name cloud account administrator Um, well, let's do something else while we got this going So we got this lab server what I wanted to do for the testing here We're going to go log into this as well. So Let's get back over to here um root at Oops, it's actually lts on this server We're going to run some, uh Stuff here. There we go. Let's run some Let's focus on this particular here. Uh, I got the details pulled up I was trying to be consistent with what I run it should be five This is for onyx test suite that I have loaded in here two One and then we'll do one comma three comma five Seven why not these are different block sizes What we're going to do though is uh not save the results because I don't feel like typing Why to save them what I'm going to do is just set this thing in the background Hammering away with this particular VM now what makes this VM kind of fun Uh See lts at One there's lots of processors assigned to it. So we've got lots of resources assigned to one particular VM And we're going to split that because this thing is now about to go crazy And uh, there we go cpu's ramping up Network disc everything's starting to ramp up on this matter of fact, let's click on the disc And we're going to start seeing and we're at 70 000 iops, but we're only doing something in one vm right now So let's go ahead and talk about how to do this with Um, another one. So let's go here council We're going to stress test this. Let's go ahead and do 10 iterations here Yeah, 100 meg files sounds fine. Let's go ahead and run this now Simultaneously, I'm running a benchmark at one vm in this vm. So we are doubling up on the benchmarks And they're all running on the same mvme. So let's see where the stats take us now We're over 100 000 iops and still counting. Oh yep 109 000 and still going so Yeah, that's uh That's a pretty good throw up out there. All right while we're at it. Let's go back over to our Windows 10 server because you know what it probably has more updates oops Back for updates. No quit saying that go. There we go Yeah, we know there's problems this because so we'll tell this to force some updates and by the way You notice how responsive this is so even though for some reason Oh, I know what this update won't load because it's a tpm update. So it's actually up to date this I already know what this error code is You I why do you have to google error codes? Why can't they just say it's because we can't update the tpm? Why can't they just say things like that? We can't update the tpm But either way this server as you can see we can even open up this Yeah, yeah, yeah Do that we'll open up google chrome and uh Yes, set us default chrome. Why would we want anything other than chrome? There we go Let's open up anything. Oh there you can see that uh It's quite responsive even though and it's running on the same drive here We're pushing 200 000 iops now Because that's how fast this system is this is what's really impressive This uh super micro is not even stressed if we go over here to host itself And look at some of the stats I mean at least some of the cpus out of the 112 available cores Some of them are peeking out doing some of the testing in the background, but certainly not all of them That's one of the things that I Wanted to really hammer on this server is it's probably I mean yes It's going to be great for single individual applications, but one of my reviews is kind of going to center more around how well it works from a running everything type of thing like let's run all of this together, so That's absolutely You know something that this can hammer out and do really well is have a multitude of machines And running now. I should probably have turned it on, but I forgot I do have also it set up in storage to do this technology right here That is also really impressive the fact that when I connected to this knowledge you over the 25 gig network that It's just It's really fast. This is all connected with 25 gig networking because i'm also working on a review for the technology rs 36 21 xs plus with all 12 flash drives in there, so this is our lab thing I'm doing actually I should I don't know I should leave something on a screen for you to look at I can run over to the lab and punch the button real quick We'll go to storage mvme stats. There we go. We'll let the stats roll by look at that. We hit 176,000 iops Those are read iops specifically. We haven't got to the right part of the test yet uh Let's see Yeah, this is a fair point now Right here if you you could have some graphic acceleration for drivers and things like that. This is one of the um Questions that comes up a lot is pasture. Yes, you can do it It is easier to do. I believe in proxmox has an easier pasture setup and so does um Unrayed those are two popular ones that come up. I don't use either one of them I've just seen the documentation is easier. It's not impossible to do There's articles you can find on doing pasture for xcp and gbot. I've just not done much of it It's not something I have a lot of experience with uh, so yeah, the pasture is kind of uh um And does zen server support tpm pasture emulation? Yes, so actually we'll pull that up real quick. So, uh Here's an article about it You can I think it's a it's a citrix article same thing. So, uh Who's it at? It exists. How's that? There we go btpm support It's in there. I've never tested it. Um, but zen the zen hypervisor supports it. So it should work in there I haven't done any videos on it to dive into it, but the btpm support is in there. So Hopefully that clears that up Hey, look at our power usage. Definitely went up Uh Pastry was easy was an orchestra if you have A card that is on the supported list. Yes, there's an option in uh, is it in a host? There is somewhere on here I thought it was in here. I maybe it showed maybe it shows up cpu license type installed There's a way you can do the pass through but it has to be a there's a limited number of supported devices on there so um Yeah, I think it shows up under here. It's been a while since I've had any systems that had that support so yes Kind of sort of pass through if it's on a supported list uh When you create a vm. No, there's I don't maybe you're uh Yeah, I that I know of in creating a vm I don't see anything about passing one through if you have something that's Like I said on their list. They have like a supported gpu list. Yeah, there's things you can do But right now there's nothing here. Um Oh two or we're hitting about a hundred thousand iops here and uh, that's wow 1.7 gigs. That's a lot How's that? Let me see how that windows is doing over here Do we have some stats out of it yet? Whoops Yeah, it's performing pretty well considering it's running simultaneous benchmarks with multiple things So It's in the show advanced settings. I see people saying that but I You know new vm cpu max cpu dynamic Yeah, if you don't have one that's uh Supported I don't see anything in the uh settings that lets you actually automatically pass one through so There's write-ups on it if you go to um They have documentation here's the write-up on it these are the settings to Get it what you need to do How you have to uh do the gpu pass your vgpu Due to a proprietary piece of code and zen server xcp and gs not have yet support for in the nvidia vgpu But they do in some of the other ones So it's kind of it comes on what they have support for like I said, they have documentation on this topic Pretty clearly laid out. I may one day. I'll do a video on it. I just don't really use it Can I use citric zen server was sent to a seven or eight with web hosting? I don't understand How the question so could you use it? Um, you generally build the as The zen center. Well, I I are you referring to xcp and g. I guess I don't understand that question very well Um, it's not made to control your hosting. It's it's made to control zen servers So zen orchestra what you're looking at here controls xcp and g or citrix Zen servers. So I I don't understand the question Pasture works vgpu for sharing but not yet Okay, yeah, I don't have a card in this so that's not part of the testing I was planning on doing But nonetheless the uh, things I wanted to talk about was what does work on here and It does work really well with xcp and g. I also one of the challenges when you're doing and this is Wow, this is a little bit of a problem right here. Now if you are doing The setup where you have like mv me zfs the way this works and we'll pull back over here at us One of the challenges is there's no Web ui for managing the zfs in here. This comes up a lot for how you should handle this And what I mean is if you have a series of drives and you want to have your local storage be built off of zfs on an xcp And g server no problem. You can but one you build it from the command line two You manage it from the command line. So if one of these drives need to be replaced upgraded or failed you would have to do the Appropriate z pool commands to make that work That's one kind of shortcoming They don't have a native ui to manage zfs inside of xcp and g So you then have to also not only do that you have to Monitor it that way because if one of these particular units fail, there's not a notification that comes through in zen server There's a report that's going to go. So if you're logging it can go into log And you can set up your log system to trigger off of that, but it doesn't have like a Notify you like hey by the way, we're going to send you an email because your zf drive Uh, you're one of your zf f drives that's kind of fallen out. So that's something you have to think about but yeah uh Someone said yeah 60 people watching but only 14 likes go ahead and hit the like button We do like the like button. Uh, well youtube likes the like button, you know We have a our lives are driven by algorithms that let us know what we should or shouldn't like So if you like this and there's other people like you it lets them know that they should like it too and that's the cycle of youtube life Uh So I put my phone back in a charger here Oh, let's see. Yeah elbow cough plus one for elbow cough Uh, good news is you're uh safe from any sneezing or coughing I do because those are not how we transfer those type of viruses Uh That kind of topic that's still running We can go back over here Stats, uh, let's look at the super micro and their management tool now. This is really cool This is their new interface and I got to say it's pretty slick. So It has a feature that I think is um Rather novel here. Let's say you wanted to dump a list of all these things here This is just export to excel. I can't believe they put that in there. That just seems novel I've always had to you know, you're trying to copy this drop it in clean up the table If for some reason you needed a list of something or a list of readings The fact that they can drop this right into a spreadsheet is just Novel to me and my opinion. I don't know where to open that. Oh, there it is. It's over here I have a lot of windows open and I have a lot of screens I have only a couple screens, but there's just a lot of things open But here it is. You can dump it into a spreadsheet. That's novel I thought that was a Interesting feature that they included but the overall look of this. This is their newer ipmi management interface Really nice this being able to filter things throw shirt throw Show the thresholds Voltage temperature physical security battery status if you want to get one It understands not only what was in here the built in it understands the add-ons that I put so I understand the health status of both the 25 gig card that I added in that did not come with this and the on board built-in networking I know the temperature and that 25 gig one gets a little warm. So, uh, yeah, that's a little hot right now But hey, that's you know life Power usage. Here's where I started the system Here's where we got a little bit What do we peek at about 402 watts and we haven't done cpu testing and if we do some cpu test That will definitely Crank that up. So we're currently pulling about 400 watts on the machine actually What cpu test should I run on this? There's there's the question the uh, I'll let the audience choose It's I'm using pharaonics. So let me know what pharaonics test you would like me to kick off and run On the cpu benchmark. So if you if someone puts the command Pharaonics benchmark slash which one we can kick that off and make it work if you're not familiar with pharaonics It's got a pretty simple command structure, but we're you know, definitely peeking a little bit of cpu Doing all this now of note because I'm running zfs on here if you go to the host Run pass mark Does pharaonics have pass mark? I don't think so No, I didn't think so that's pass marks a separate one, right? But we can run pass mark That's mark would probably be run inside of this So let's go in here There's the numbers that were given to me from this. So not bad not bad performance for a virtualized version of windows here um Not terrible and by the way simultaneously this other vm is uh still Whoops Where'd it go the I want you one This is still doing all these tests while that one did its test. So these are simultaneous tests So it's not the peak performance, but the reality is you don't peak performance of single application isn't what this was designed for It's like how fast does it with everything running on it and that's that's the Thing we wanted to know. Wow. Those are some those are nice transfer speeds there All right before I got back off topic someone said pass mark. We'll we'll actually kick pass mark off in this So I think we can just download it. I'm assuming Uh This is fun. I know I just took down the network. This was the machine I was using in the previous video that actually got published today um for xcp ng so fi I took that down for the unified dream machine. So we can go and put it on the Pwnage network. There we go. We'll get a new ip address. Hey, look, we're on the ponage network And for those of you that can't see that ip address Yes, we have a network called ponage and it's 10 dot 13 37. Um, that's you know, because why not All right, there we go Where's the download I just want to download it There we go It's on my ponage network. So I don't really care I'm not going to check anything. It's just runs what it runs You just Josh you fell down the rabbit hole of that. Yes Once you start playing with a bunch of home assistant stuff It it's just more and more of uh things to play with that. It's exciting Um, there's so many different things you can play with when it comes to the home. It's It's gonna be It's an addiction once you can turn everything on and off you can and then you do All right Oh, do I read these license terms? Who wants to read them for me? No, not me Yay, here we go Kick off some pass mark here I'm not gonna bother running any of the graphics tests because they're just, um useless But we can do the cpu ones We'll do cpu marks on this. Oh, you know what we should do though Stop Oh, this is still running. I don't care. I'm gonna shut it down We need more cpu's Because I don't want to run it with just eight cores Make this a 32 core system There we go Much better if you're gonna run it, you know, uh, you're you're not You're not the only one without full screen counsel for vms. Yeah, I don't always use full screen counsel. Just I mean I hit the button here, but I'm not very often in this ever the I'm doing it because it's a lab And whatnot, but for the most part, you know, even I'm not always Especially because most of my servers are linux. I ssh and all of them the windows ones would use screen connect for so that's how we Deal with that aspect of it Run all cpu tests. There we go So let's see what it says about its cpu's and uh, we can look at the stats. Hey, here we go We're ramping them all up. Oh, let's see If you notice issues with browser compatibility with supermicro's new ip a matter of face I've had issues across various platforms. Yes. No. So one problem I will admit to having run into is I have the, um This turned off. I it does not like the ublock plugin So if you have ublock on you're going to, um, this is ublock origin You will have a problem. I know it's kind of scary because my logo covers it up But this is ublock origin and if you're using ublock origin, you will find It doesn't like the supermicro. So I have no problems getting to work as long as I turn off ublock origin If you don't it just kind of breaks and goes in a weird loop Here comes some more wattage usage so I hear I can hear it I don't I think the sound filtering probably filters it out, but um, The definitely as it's ramped up the the power is going to start peeking up quite a bit more when that processor Starts hitting So there's some more there As a matter of fact what we should do And we run more than one for onyx at a time What's the front? Uh I think I had one I ran There we go There now this is pulling cpu and the other one is oh, I'm gonna get this error, but I don't worry about that How's your sunday going? It's going great because I'm playing with and testing things Do you ever uh take a day to fully detach from work? Yes, um The best that's why I said it's a rainy day at the beginning of this live stream because that's one of the things That I definitely do take the time to detach from work. It's easier to show you then uh Usually my detachment from work is this Drag your window over. I'm out in the middle of nowhere. This if you want to see me detached You'll find there's no laptop here. This is this is how tom fully detaches is by Going out on his motorcycle and kind of like just disappearing on it. So That's uh the more detached version Where was I anyways? Oh It's actually a nature preserve about an hour away from here. So I go around I take my motorcycle places So yes, occasionally I do detach from work. Um So there's that you close that close that go back over here Yeah, this is using more cpu here. It's gonna heat the room up. Glad it's in the other room Oh, let's see Someone gonna hit that like button few more people You're starting a business focused around information and security You and you think me uh, you're thinking of being a great help. Awesome any tips from an entrepreneur sector, uh my advice for business is Frequently the same of learn the marketing side of it because there's a constant misconception that if your tech skills are so good They'll just hire you. Um, I myself fell victim to that for years Where why wouldn't people hire me? Uh, it turns out you really got to work Twice as hard. It feels like at the marketing than some of the tech stuff Um, I've worked myself into a position where I have salespeople and I have people that take care of the sales and business aspects I don't want to so I can just focus on tech where I want to be But yeah, it's the the marketing side's hard because I have a few friends that make really good money Uh at really high paying jobs working in tech and cybersecurity that want to leave to start their own business Because they think well, I make this much in the private sector. I'll make that much and you know being out of my own And I'm like, no, how are you gonna market? How do you get clients? Well, I don't know You know, I'll start calling people and they'll just use me. I'm like really You know, they'll switch. I it's not that easy. That's that that's a more complicated topic So that's my advice always is learn the marketing side of it um If you're about to switch your phone from google sannology and I'm assuming you specifically mean like the Uh photo app. I still use I like the sannology photo app. I'm working on a longer term review of it I'm really happy with snot the way sannology photos has been working out. So um That the um sannology does give you that option to do that but sannology is adding cloud services Not taking away any of the current ones They're just trying to be in both market spaces where they have some things that work in cloud And that's great for business people like us where we want to be able to see like with active insights A lot of our different deployments and things like that. Um, they're working on both sides of the fence They want to make some business people happy where we want to have a Central way to manage all the servers and they're making the other side of the house happy by Um offering, you know self-hosted photos photo sharing system So I I think sannology has got a good platform for going all that What strategy works trust your marketing watch my business list of videos on my channel Get out and meet people and I have like five or six videos where I talk in depth Any of the videos I did with Brett get out and meet people get out and meet people and I get out and meet people The next option and this is not for everyone is make about 1200 youtube video tutorials and build a channel over seven years to get people to follow you And maybe some of them will hire you So that's my other advice, uh, I don't know if that one works as well It's it's a much longer one. So, uh, youtube marketing so to speak works people We offer consulting services and we book a lot of them through youtube But we also have word of mouth because we've been in business for 18 years But even though we've been in business for 18 years, you know brett right now runs things here at larnc systems and he's out there Meeting people going to events going to chamber of commerce events just having meetings talking to people Knock it on doors type thing. That's a constant that is still after 20 years in business You don't slow down doing it not at all not even a little bit It's it's rare that you get to the point where the business just keeps falling in your lap I mean it can happen you could just have some niche you service that's so in demand that you're just the name that comes up when people look for it cool, um, but Other than that it's getting out there meeting people Yeah networking with other local companies in the field. That's for sure too. So uh, highly recommend get out there Network meet people talk to other people you think are your competitors. You may find out they're not and uh, There's a lot times a lot more business out there than you'd realize all right What are we up to in wattage now? I'm disappointed. We have not hit a peak wattage that I think would So our cp mark's not that great. So let's go ahead and get more cores assigned to this. This is Actually, let's have some fun. We're going to sign more cores By doing it this way. So now this system 32 cores now we just cloned it. So now we have another one This one has 32 cores now. I will run both of them at the same time. So There we go. Now. We have two systems that are booting up with this now. We can run both All the way from South Africa. Yes Different world. I don't know the market down there, you know, that's that's obviously one aspect of it. Um My family doesn't live around here. I chose to live in this area If you live especially when I got into tech in the 90s If you live in a very rural area your opportunities were very limited They didn't have a lot of remote jobs of in the tech world back in 1995 when I started so that is Going to be a factor for sure. Oh, that's a good question. I never did talk about the configuration of these What cpus are in these that's a really solid question. Why didn't that come up earlier? These are intel zion gold 63 30s at 2 gigahertz. So Those are a pair of those and we have Uh 256 gigs of memory. So if we go back right here to the host It's the same thing here. So xcp and g uh That much 256 gigs of memory And under advance this will show the cpu again. There you go Intel gold drop that in there as a comment zion gold a pair of them. So What's the physical device you're running on zen? It's actually in the title of this video. It's a super micro super server. So The well, it's also right here. So this is the actual server, which they said is also in the title Super micro s y s 120 u t n r super server. So All right Let's kick off Go to the council this one continue run all cpu tests He run a Simult no once you're on that one simultaneously. All right that one's running Oh, yeah, run all ram tests. Why not go back over here? run this one too run yes run Let's see if we can make this thing scream Yes, run those two. There we go. Those are running. That's running Uh Oops, this is running cpu's lots of cpu's being used Uh Yeah, that's a lot of these are the including there's um Not that many cores in these There's 28 core 28 cores 56 threads. So it's 56 and 56 So when you look inside of here, you're seeing the 112 Total threads that are in there. It says 111 because it starts at cpu zero But uh, no, it's working. Well, this view probably gets a better idea. Are we seeing cpu usage? Yes No, what's it doing? Oh, that's the wrong one. That's a windows server There we go So I was pushing some cpu's My cpu versus the world It doesn't look like it's running It must have stopped when I kicked off the memory test Maybe the other one did the same thing There we go. Now it's running them math. We're doing some math on here Go system go That's how you heat the house the michigan winners. Yes It it does um, definitely warm up the house It is we kind of joke, you know, you just close the door and turn the gaming computers on and uh, if you have a fast one It definitely does it. I've joked. Just rendering videos is enough to help uh, do that All right back over to dashboard. We're using more power yet. There we go Oh, we only hit a max peak of 435 watts. I want this to go more 9 435 is not bad 435 Still not maxing this thing out I got pie performance running. I got this running. These are just a couple separate benchmarks Maybe we're gonna be stuck They're probably just confused the benchmarks are seeing so many other things go on Oh, you know, we didn't look what is the iops at now storage Not bad. We've slowed down the iops now. We're into the streaming test. So Turn my phone off Yeah, front You're probably right about that. Uh folding it home or crypto will make for a good space heater. Yes More power more power for sure It's such a waste all running benchmarks is just wasting watts, isn't it? Especially because if these aren't even getting uploaded for anything. It's just doing testing on it Look at all the mvms. Oh, let's see. You gotta message my wife something It's done When are we getting another server server rekt or uh soon? There's a couple things i'm working on. Um One i'm gonna have I have a new wiring video that I just didn't feel like editing today And uh, so that'll happen next week and I did build that second rack. So I Um, post it on twitter I work i've I can pull that up somewhere. How do I get this to? There we go I just gotta quiet it down because I put music in there. I am working on uh, I did some onsite videos We're gonna work on some tutorials related to this too Um, this is you know building stuff at clients So we have our lab racks, but I also am trying to get back to doing some onsite videos for the things we build um I posted this on twitter. So this you know, I just haven't gotten around the editing all of it There's a lot of editing that has to go on the back end to it. So that's definitely a lot Uh You want a uh He recommended landland training online. They'll give you a certificate. Uh, I Would probably I don't have any certificates, but um, it pro tv. They're an affiliate link We use them actively here at the office That's the training that I provide for all of my staff so they can learn stuff and watch the different videos on there And they do do certifications. So you can go get certifications there. So uh, yes That's true. Um, I do like dubstep I like actually um when i'm working It helps me focus to just have some repetitive music in the background without lyrics So repetitive music without lyrics with a deep bass line count me in I don't even care what you call it I it it's really just one of those things to uh keep my mind going So See what the results are here and they're probably not going to be great because we get too many things running at once So we did not We did not rate very high On the world average of this. I wonder how many more cpus um the I wonder how many more cpus I can add and make this score better Let's try that Actually, how many cpus will windows support? That's probably another question. I don't know that answer So if we actually um, I'm I'm a windows dummy a lot Uh, okay already have Why does it only see? Oh There's a problem. We only have four cpus in this so Yeah, let's fix that I have a feeling I know why The why is probably because of this I don't think windows supports that many sockets, but if we make it Two sockets with 16 cores per socket Windows cares about these things a lot That could be why we had such a seat low cpus score. We had cpus assigned windows goes. No, I can't deal with that configuration Uh, there's a I know there's some core limits inside of windows That's probably what we ran into there Let's see if it's better now You speak to your task manager Hey, look, we have lots of cpus now all right That explains why we weren't taxing the system. I was wondering why I didn't hit more wattage So All right Now we have 32. So now let's run this test again and see what happens Two sockets with 16 cores. Yeah This is one of the things about the way windows works Um, the nerve processor setting preferences is not optimal. Would you like to correct this? Yes run Run all tests now Now let's see it do something different. We'll probably get a much More dense looking right here now that it's actually going to take advantage of all the cores. Look at that Looking better already We should probably fix the other one too We made a clone Oh, yeah, I hear we I hear the noise coming in the background. So let's go ahead and What do we do? Uh, two sockets with 16 per core Yep, there we go Oh, that thing's about ready to take off I can the ramp up noise from the other room right now Good time See it's go over here. We'll kick off this as well Continue Yes Run there we go That looks better. It looks like it's you know way more here So you could hear the fans spool up awesome Let's um Go Let's go deeper So here I have an idea Let's see if this works This is one advantage of using uh stream yard I should be able now to Go and do this So if they go No, I'm going to mute It's got to go into the room But yes, this is the uh New server rack actually should probably turn lights on So here's that super microserver. It's definitely it. I already got to go kick the CPU test off again But get the idea and this is that whole new rack of stuff. It's still a little messy. It's not completely finished It's it's looking pretty good overall We got nice labels on things. I posted pictures on twitter Come all the way around the back with it. That's the fun The shop's actually a little bit of a mess because there's just too many projects going on I like that I can jump to my phone all right Sorry about that. I didn't realize I was muted Isn't that the theme for 2021? Tom, you're on mute Yes, everyone sees I was muted I fixed it I pressed the mute button to try and stop some of the feedback but um on the last Um, so what did I see for ndi? We are using stream yard right now. So uh stream yard is uh stream yard dot com It's a me and j use it for the homelab show on this channel. I've done it for a few interviews I'm starting to use it more and more. I need to do a little bit more integration with it, but I do like it overall Um Yeah, it's the same for every meeting someone's always on mute this time. It's the guy on live stream. Look I accidentally had to be a YouTube content creator in order to play with servers with more people. So, uh, I'm still a technology person first Related to networking and servers and fun stuff like linux and maybe some windows playing In some securities talk, but uh the video editing and streaming side. I only learn as much as I need to I just don't spend too much time focused on it Uh, because mostly I do it as a means to an end It's a matter of getting things done to get this content out there. So sometimes I goof up and put myself on mute It's it's a thing. It's a problem What else do we want to talk about on here? Do we want to talk about how to create more actually one thing I'll do before I leave go ahead and get some more questions ready. Um, I'll throw this Little throw the benchmarking storage green up real quick One second. I'm gonna turn on one more thing All right, so I don't know if this is going to bleed through from the other room But now there's more servers running. I just turned on the synology. So uh, yes the Yeah, the Synology is booting up right now and we'll do some testing with that too while we're at it because why not? let's see All right, so the Where we're at right now is the Synology is booting up So I gotta wait a minute for that to come online And we'll play around with that idea a little bit That's I may do another video because I think there's some confusion around how ha works inside of zen server But the um Oops care about this test anymore As a matter of fact, I don't care about this test anymore. We're just gonna stop both of them Gotta wait for this to wake wake up and fire up but uh How much infrastructure do you I don't appropriation How much do I test infrastructure? I think is maybe what you're asking a lot We do a lot of lab stuff demo stuff proof of concept It's something we do a pretty decent amount of Because uh, that's how you learn, you know, even I don't have a home lab per se because this is my home lab this whole You know everything that I'm doing here is technically even though it's at my office. You can consider it a lab so that's um That's why I describe I spend a lot of time doing it and I recommend because this question comes up all the time someone just tag me on What do you call it? Is the raid z2 with five drives enough to saturate 10 gig probably not Unless those drives are mvme If you have an mvme setup with a raid z1 you could probably saturate a 10 gig. That's about it with five drives um I there are a whole list of articles in my forums and if you go to and we'll Plug myself here because this answers those questions because they're complicated ones and we say things like zfs performance I will throw this as a link Right here because this will answer Or maybe have more questions all about raid z storage design and performance and Um, I cite a lot of articles. I have links to all those articles and then there's discussion in my forums on there So, uh, that's it's not like a yes or no answer is a short answer Or hey, the really long answer is an entire video and about 20 articles later. So Uh, how much kit do you have specifically for playing around with? Oh, how much stuff is around? Uh That's that's a tough question to answer because I test things that sometimes are on their way to customers So and it's just part of the setup. I want to make sure they work well So that sometimes I have um a couple petabytes of storage over there that we've been running tests on I want to make sure before we deliver them to the customer that they work So I've got like a 45 drives xl 60 still here kind of just running doing stuff at any given moment there's a lot of Things here for testing. It's kind of an ongoing rotation of things There's not like a fixed amount and if I see something I want I buy it because I want to do a video on it Or occasionally like the super microserver gets sent to me because it's just a review It's a demo unit that I got to send back. So like this super micro Specifically, it's just a demo unit that's here now and we'll get sent back later Connect to all hosts Come on system go Is your plan to test wpa3 in the future? What test would you run on it? I hate wi-fi testing And I the problem with wi-fi testing is it's absolutely my results are not your results matter of fact I can goof up my results really easy I'll move a wi-fi one inch over and get a completely different results and I would from one inch the other way So The testing isn't very relevant. I mostly test for Solid connectivity. So I have a review that I'm doing long term on one of the unify The long range Is it l6 the six wi-fi six long range device? The lr model that one's worked really well for me. I really like it. It's a long term test I don't know that there's any relevance in speed tests because there's so We we ran into the weirdest problems When we've done the testing here in the office one of the problems we did with wi-fi testing was comparing it to um The tp link we found Some phones were faster on the tp link and some phones are faster on the unify and we don't know why We can't we can reproduce the results Well, you don't know why the results are like that which would lead to people going tom You did a test with a pixel 4 and your pixel 4 showed this speed But my samsung whatever does this speed and my iphone does this speed Which one's the right answer because these are faster when I connect into another device and i'm like, yes Welcome to the hell that is trying to sort sort out sort out wi-fi Speed tests. I don't know it's hard. Um Yeah, it's the only way you can get a consistent test is going to be with hard line So we don't I'm probably not going to do speed testing But I can tell you my long-term testing with the unify long range six has been good And uh, the big problem is we haven't done any mass deployments because they're still hard to get your hands on quantity of them so Hopefully that helps. So I don't know if I'll really do many wp3 videos but we can do is Let's take this debbie an 11 lab system and uh Is it that one or the bun two lab a bunch of labs doing something. Oh, yeah, the one two lab this one I was running some of the tests on This is what's cool about xcp and g makes this really simple So here are storage servers. We have mvme zfs. This is local so I can actually if I wanted to even add These are local mvme zfs This is a separate and storage here A separate synology and there's no drives on it. So we're going to go ahead and take this and it's running right now So you can see it's a running system And we just take it take the disk And we're going to throw it over here To the synology. There we go Now we can even go through and uh For ssh'd into it Run whatever htop see all the processors. Whoo. It's doing stuff. Um This is kind of the nice thing about how simple they make moving things between Different storage servers relatively easy inside of xcp and g now the live migration works really well Once you have a shared storage medium and I realize there's some uh confusion around that from the last videos I did so I do plan on the future and doing some more xcp and g high availability node videos Talk about disaster recovery replication and do some more planning videos around that so we said this is something we've set up For many clients as these xcp and g and zen orchestra servers, they work well People always says was it ready to be used in data centers? I'm like, uh, we did a consulting job Where they have over 2,000 virtual machines running across several clusters. So the answer is definitely yes They work really well So this is a funny one. What's the biggest it disaster your company caused? um I haven't really I can't really come up with any I mean We've all accidentally pushed a config or something like that, but none of them led to Uh, what I would consider disasters. They were just like whoops, uh, we assigned an ip Uh, it's a typo somewhere. I mean 18 years in business that occasionally happens And you have to run onsite to plug in because you lost remote access to it It's a thing that happens. I don't I don't really document I mean we document the incident, but they're not in my head rolling around uh as much so Wi-Fi is insecure. Um Wi-Fi is reasonably secure. I mean it's obviously a wider attack surface If you're running, um Wi-Fi at all. So yeah, it's better to hard line things in How hard will someone do how much time will someone put into really try to crack your Wi-Fi password? Uh, is it's such if you have a really long one. It's not easy It's not impossible, but it's not an easy It's not like an arbitrary walk in the park to just go through and crack the Into someone's Wi-Fi even though they've had flaws in in the implementation You know the crack attack and things like that It's still reasonably secure and Wi-Fi is only part of it You also can set up more advanced things like registration to your Wi-Fi. So How relevant is jumbo frame if you need absolute levels of optimization? Uh jumbo frame can help but mostly I don't use it. Um, unless we're trying to absolutely Get the most out of some type of tuning for storage reasons Uh, there's still the myth because someone told me my results were I was lying about results because I wasn't using jumbo frames And if you don't use jumbo frames, there's no way to do 10 gig. That's just not true. So yeah Um So there's I don't really If you need the absolute best in performance, sure If you need the most compatibility, uh, because you'll run into weird switch Uh implementations, you may have to troubleshoot just do standard and you can get some pretty high transfer rates Let's took a little bit longer and expected to copy it over. Usually the super mic goes faster than this There's the resource monitor Whoops There we go Now we can kick off those pharaonics tests again See how fast is it? Brighten relatively fast Hey, there we go. Not too bad numbers for this Try to be consistent when I run the test four two one So run three fives enough to run some tests. Nope There we go Let's do some more tests. I'm curious how the synology is going to perform now. Let's See some of the total megabytes of network on there Yeah, uh Daryl says 10 gig works fine without jumbo dislodged percentage traffic is packet Uh, his packet headers like one or two percent. And that's what you're doing. I It's um, I don't want to say anything wrong So I don't get Exactly, but yes, look into the way the frames are done and you'll see that Yes, you can save in what Daryl saying is correct here. It's not a huge Percentage. It's not night and day Uh, what's your opinion on older infoband? I don't know. I've never really tested much infoband stuff. So I know Yep Not really Are you running a custom cli terminal? You can go over to github Get My thing I dropped a link in here, but it's it's linked in the videos and things like that If you search large systems github, you'll find it as well These are the dot files that I use that create the command prompt that I have so github.com slash laurence system slash dot files Uh easy enough to find So yes, I do run a slightly custom command Uh prompt on system. So it gives me Then it looks like this. I like it if you if you didn't guess some of it's just copied out of cali linux and customized so yeah It's it works Gives the job done. Oh speaking cali. I make sure there's a cali linux on here as well I should log into it and update it Hey, look, it's very similar Go ahead and Probably an update for it Did you notice mistake network truck made uh to stop land traffic going out the way on gateway? No, I don't usually watch um network trucks videos He's a great YouTuber when it comes to a lot of enthusiasm and getting a lot of the beginners excited I would say once you start getting into the really advanced networking. He's not as in depth on some of the more advanced He's got good videos, but I don't watch him because for me. I'm looking A lot I I spent so much time reading and then creating content because I'm doing a lot more of the advanced things Uh, so I don't always have time to watch everybody else's videos if they're just kind of given a basic review of things like that He did do a nice pf sense video. I uh was excited and gave him a shout out for that And comment on it and someone I didn't even know he mentioned me until someone else that watched the video He did I thought it was cool. He did a pf sense video, but I I see I haven't I watched part of it I didn't have time to watch all of it. So um I don't really yeah Oh on his pf sense video Yeah, I didn't watch the whole video. I only watched the part where someone someone said Hey, he left you a comment someone tagged me in it and I said, oh cool You know I said thanks chuck, you know, he didn't reply or anything. I just uh Somewhere you it's one of the comments under I think he hit the heart on the comment Um, I've never talked to chuck directly seems like a nice enough guy This is probably a good point here. Uh that I put up on the screen that Your large provider support when you it's important when you're dealing multiple vlands to specialize applications There are use cases for it. Um Do some digging and do some reading and figure out if your use case is that on a general note not always but Yes for the that's the back to the uh Related to the 9 000 mtu the jumbo frames Jumbo frames is 9 000 mtu What else was I I got on I'm way off topic here What else do you guys want to know before I leave because I tell my wife I I uh, it's It's a quarter after three right now. I told my wife. I uh make dinner around four so So that's um What other questions can I answer? Let's go ahead and be off topic. Oh someone did uh How's the omada going? I took it out of my house. I used it. It worked fine I didn't have any problems of it, but I switched back to unify because that's the platform We're still deploying that's the platform. We're very familiar with and that's what we have deployed at a massive amount of our clients Um, I did the comparison of unify versus omada My disappointment in the omata tp link setup is that they decided to basically copy not only the good of the unify but a lot of the flaws of the unify so Yeah And their documentation was a little bit not well not great. Um, maybe they've improved some of those things But they don't have this full of a product line as unify. They don't seem to have quite every feature unify had so I was like I don't know. I don't think they're bad for home users I don't know that I would trust the tp link for the business side of the world I see tom as the kelly bucks. We do in some hacking. Well, this is a challenge I've had right now and I don't know how much I should do I gotta be careful doing cyber security videos for those of you that don't follow info sack Um, there has been many times youtubers have lost their channels or had problems because talking about cyber security too in depth Um from an instructional standpoint youtube may have a problem with it So I've always been kind of hesitant to do those and there's so many good people out there You know, I'll give a shout to people like john hammond or stoke or lots of other good youtubers cyber weapons lab There's a long list of great Tutorials out there hackers boy that, you know, they've all dealt with it and are ongoing dealing with whatever problems youtube may throw at them They're better at it than me. That's what they specialize in so Um, I I'm a cyber security observer more though than a trainer. So I don't really Yeah um What's your thoughts on true nas going debbie n we actually went deep into this in the last Home lab show me and j talked about it. But overall, I think it's good It's it's just another platform That true nas is going to offer their debbie and base system and they're going to offer their free bsd system I think they'll both run in parallel for years to come uh I notice your channel, uh the content relates to on psych technologies. Do you purposely direct customers away from public cloud? Um, well, we're in a different niche The public cloud doesn't need advertising the public cloud is Oversold and over advertised. We're offering solutions frequently to people who go I'm oversold and overpay, you know overpaying on all these cloud things. I was talked into That's where the uh niche comes in so people start looking for alternatives the People beating the drum that everything just needs to be in the cloud are usually the people that profit from everything being in the cloud And when the bill comes, I mean we've talked to companies that are going back to even one one company Their spend has exceeded three million a year and they're like, you know, we can start building Data centers now, uh, and it'll be less money. I've had some consulting I did with a couple people and that was just blown away at how much that the cloud bill got out of control So to speak it's just not always that expensive. Wendell, uh from level one tex is the same reason He's in the same niche. Wendell's a Someone who's very knowledgeable on how much the cloud costs and we've joked about this He goes technically a lot of these cloud things should cost less But every year these companies try to figure out more ways to lock you in more ways to keep you from switching away from their system And once they can figure out those more ways to do it, they keep ratcheting up the price So the cloud isn't for everyone. That's one of the reasons why one why bother advertising cloud systems People are already aware of them when you start talking about the alternatives and when they start looking for alternatives They happen to find the person talking about the alternatives because they go Yeah, that bill came for the cloud and uh, the rates went up again So it that's one of the reasons we have so much content around that and we do a lot of people We we bring some people down from the cloud. Um, it's just a thing The switch. Yeah, I think you're hours ago. I seen someone said, uh, this right here Well, oh, I'll answer that well before I answer that one. I'll jump up to this Dcp is not a problem. I've ever run into with the switches, but I will admit there was some problems and I think they've all been resolved between unify access points and predominantly but not limited to Sonic wall firewalls not allowing dcp But other firewalls worked fine or other dcp servers I should say work fine just not sonic wall and a couple others but never seen a problem on a switch Nope, no, uh You cannot migrate if you have legacy encryption from shunas core to shunas scale Because the gel i encryption jelly. I think it's pronounced jelly encryption is exclusive to free bsd. Sorry Oh, let's see All the landlords want you to rent. Yes, that's probably a great way to sum up how the cloud works Um, that yeah, absolutely the you know, they're always singing its phrases because they're the ones that make the money off of it Get in sheet make it hard to leave. Yes the technical term the business term for it is switching costs Um, facebook's been in the news a lot lately because facebook knows that the more difficult They can make it to switch away from their platform the more likely they are to keep all of their user base so switching costs are high whenever possible and uh, yeah No one really wants to make at least the cloud vendors don't really want to make some easy transferable platform They want you to use all their specialized tools because that gives you the vendor lock-in that they're hoping for Why are you having dinner at four? Is that too early? Um, I don't I am a Early wake-up person. I don't like eating after five or six that I prefer not to So I say dinner at four will probably leave you over dinner at four either. I'll go somewhere or I'll cook something But yeah, it's um, I'm not a big person on eating after five or six I don't know. I've that's just it makes me eat better that way. I feel better. I don't know So dinner four is not early for me Oh, let's see What else did we have here? Besides cali linux you can all the fun cali linux stuff. Don't we all want to play with this right now? You need to play with cali linux right now with these fuzzing tools and stressing tools Look at all this fun stuff in here. All right. We'll shut this down Before I get in trouble from the from the youtube's Now I'm curious because this has been I've been running this in the background. How does our storage look here? Look at that. It's another 70 000 IOPS out of the uh Synology system Actually, you know what we didn't do We ran all these we didn't see what they say. Oh, look at this Once we assign some cores our cpu mark Look at we score really good on this We should put even more cores at it and we were running these simultaneously So while this one was running And this one was running we scored in the 97 percentile. There we go Let's go ahead and migrate this system to the Synology I like that you can just move virtual hard drives while things are running. You're like, I don't gotta shut them down I'll just go ahead and Kick the move. Oh Oh, I know that's I know I had aired Because this is a linked clone I'm gonna destroy my linked clone here I bet that's why Or was it there's not enough space How big is this disc? Oh, it should be enough space. How much is on the Synology? Yeah, there's space on there, but it's probably because it's a linked clone We'll move it faster by shutting it down. I wanted to get it over there so we can do another test um This question comes up. Do you have a email server alternative to office 365? We use g-suite G-suites are office 365 alternative Does the assignment of xcp and g reflects the real cpu cores and virtualization layer? Yes, I mean You don't assign Visit you're not mapping the cpu directly to it And you can over provision because you can over assign all the cpu's to multiple vm's In the hypervisor will decide how it wants to handle that Um Well, what's the error message here? Can you click on it? Come on Oh insufficient space. Ah, I know why there's insufficient space There's insufficient space. That's where I was goofing up So this probably has a few things that haven't coalesced because of what's attached to it So let's do it this way Back up your store. It's because there's snapshots attached to it. But if we go here Like that version and we'll put it here. There we go Now we can just do a restore. That's how I set vm's up on here is I have a whole lab repository called trinity labs and uh, maybe I should do a video on my um Where's that settings? remotes there you go true nasty trinity lab backups. So this is all the uh Fun things I can do in the background and just pop these anytime I set up a new server It's just a couple clicks away from uh getting VMs set up on it. I probably got to do a new lab video because we have so much more stuff in our lab from the last time G suites called google workspace. I don't care what they call it. It's the same thing Uh, I just want to know if you're running docker on or is this vmware? No, this is xcp ng no docker running How's this back up going five minutes so load windows? That's too long This system should be faster. I thought it'll probably finish faster than that But it says five minutes five whole minutes just to get this set up. I'm running out of drinks Oh, let's see Yeah, this is all xcp ng 25 percent we're so close yeah, I Slack is probably still better than teams. Um Microsoft just kind of didn't get teams right. I think but whatever Uh, yes matrix trinity dozer and tank. Well, yeah, so Yes that's one reason to call it trinity and and absolutely is why part of the naming convention It's also, um 30 drives. It's a 30 drive system So it's how I got it's the other reason I got that name. Yeah, we get 200. This is the system running it 226 gigs of ram I need to do some more with this system. It's not doing a lot right now But it's got a lot of drives Look at all those re z2s Follow the weight rabbit. Well, yeah, I got any one of them weight rabbit now But yeah, this is running, uh I tried this one with scale. I had to go back to core. I uh Yeah, they I had too many performance issues and it was kind of driving me nuts Because you know, you want the network performance and that I mean, you know, we're transferring decent amounts of data here, but yeah the Two minutes almost unloading windows Am I excited for the new matrix? Absolutely. I'm a I'm a you know When I came out it was so amazing Absolutely, I definitely like the um The first trilogy. I mean the first one was the best and trilogy wrapped it up and it was watchable I rewatched all of them again So Yeah, I'm excited for it. Not overall Everything's imperfect and I'm not going to nitpick it to death as a movie Going to trunas, uh core to scale the cores any issues? No, you can go back and forth. Um, You can revert. I I've actually reverted three times now Because trying to sort things out and one time I broke everything. So, um, yes so that's No, the perf issues the performance user or not because I even loaded scale on this super microserver here And it did not perform well on this system either. So I don't know. I don't think they've just gotten around to the performance tuning in scale And that's essentially where the problem is until they get around the performance tuning scale. It's just Not is the best way to describe it. So Any issues installing genus labs on here? I don't use genus lab. So I don't know I have a analogy connected 10 gig proxmox. Uh, how can I verify the link proxmox to really connect to 10 gig? uh I I think you can get hyper for running on a synology So that my suggestions try to get hyper for running on synology. That should work Can't wait for true nascale releases. Um, I can't wait till it gets performance Uh performance enhanced. That's when I'll get excited about it until there's performance I just that was my big hang up on there. It actually was very stable and functional It just didn't the performance was so lacking that it was trying to drive me nuts Uh, because my true nas, you know, this is a pretty beefy machine It should perform well on this it didn't and I loaded true nas scale fresh on this one. Uh, it just Did not perform very well true nas core performs way better All right, where's our windows machine? That one's there There we go Now we got everything running on a synology That's a knowledge. He's just cranking away. So we've got 50,000 IOPS here on the Synology and now we're booting windows on it. So let's see what we can get on there Our freshly loaded windows. It took four minutes to load go to the backup jobs here How long did that take actually? Yeah Five minutes to load windows five minutes and 25 seconds ridiculous. I need a faster server here That's you the problem. There's a lot more complexities in that may I'll do a video on it Zen orchestras running on an old Dell server. So if we go to settings servers and I Reconnected to this Dell The server is this one here And it just wasn't fast enough to decompress that stream Um, and it's it's connected to 10 gig, but it's still not fast enough so By the way, if you didn't know this, um Well, that one's not on Uh, you can it's a one to many relationship. You can have zen orchestra handle all of your things at once Matter of fact, you can go like this then orchestra I have more than one instance of it here and if I connected to the super micro and the Dell server Hey, look, there's all the VMs across multiple hosts and then you can do things like look at the dashboard and see How much Total storage you have how much uh ram usage across all your pools It's kind of a cool thing when you look at zen orchestra all the different things you can do across You know one instance handling all of your hosts and so right now this is um Three different pools This many VMs and if we say none you can see You know a couple pages of VMs to sort through that are on here Same with all the storage Available it's kind of cool because once you have these together you can tie all the pools together And I can move things between any one of these pools at any time Back on topic though, so let's For someone gets confused. There's probably so many in here I don't need that and I don't need that There we go All right That's disabled. I don't need this one enabled Let's run the speed test Well, by the way, I'm running this speed test while it's also running a speed test And we're completely hitting up on the synology right here. So Which is synology is to overview there we go It's ramping up How many servers can use for xcp any restrictions with the software? No, no, I mean there's Eventually you will run. I forget how many it is. I think it's 64 hosts at a time There the limits are pretty good. So if you have more than 64 host servers I forget how many VMs you can run. I think it's 300 per host. I don't remember the numbers you can look up the limitations, but um Zen Orchestra There's some really high. Yeah The limits are really high So no not really I mean, there's limitations eventually where you run into what the software can do but for the most part, it's pretty high Zen orchestra is a front end for xcp ng. That is correct Uh, so that gate 700 at a new location everything on a specific vlan is segmented a Pain to config but long-term segmentation will hopefully yes. That's absolutely great um So this is there's two versions of There's the xo way appliance and zen orchestra There is and if you notice down here says no support The reason it says no support is when I do my videos I do them all with the community edition which means you compile it yourself You don't get any support So that means I didn't buy a license from them to use this The reason I do my videos like this is because I want to make it accessible to you the audience and show you that Everything i'm doing here is done with the free open source version They do have paid licenses if you plan on running this in production if you use this in your business We always encourage people to buy licenses to have full support that comes with it for your running it in a commercial environment For all the homelab enthusiasts right here and I have uh an entire and I'll drop a link to this Go over to lauren stop technology and make make a liar out of me because I don't know why my server is not pulling up right now Is it down? Oh, okay. It just stops and thought for a minute To make life easier and by the way if you go to the official documentation Uh, you'll find that they've embedded some of my videos. Hey look I have videos where I compare these things But I have an entire tutorial section right here which does include Getting started with zen orchestra and how to build it yourself This is how to build it right here how to build xo from source using devian 10. So um That's the biggest thing is if you want to run this in your lab environment and I'll know a lot of people do I'm using Off the same matter of fact. This is the vm. I built in the video. So this Uh, literally exactly the same vm. I've upgraded it in place To the latest version, but it's the same process all the time So if you'd like to build this from source, you can you get full support like this and yes So you don't even have to and there's no registration possible And I I don't mean there's no registration where it doesn't require registration I mean, it's not in the open source version. There's no way to register this. You notice how it's no prompt for this Look, I can't You got to get a different version to do the registration. There's no way to do it. So if you're looking for the Um other version. Yeah, you just go with their website and get it. So I'll be covered this earlier, but essentially it's very limited on what it can do in pass through pass through is a lot different They have an article google Um xcp and g pastures are right up on it Hopefully that clears that up All right, 10 more minutes and then I'm out of here 10 more minutes What else can I answer in the next 10 minutes? I told people to go to my forums. Uh, I uh Hey, let's see what how this is doing Whoops storage Synology Oh 90,000 IOPS we got to get it up there. What did we hit that other one at we hit? We hit 200,000 earlier in the stream on the other device But this is not not bad at all These are not terrible numbers. This could be a little faster. I wonder if we do it with a smaller file like it's better uh Watch your video on 10 g any recommendations for 10 g home qnap ubiquity sysco um The I don't recommend qnap. Uh, sysco is fine qnap's not fine qnap has a lot of security issues and they're slow to fix them So my recommendations is not qnap. Excuse me. Synology true nas both are good choices The learning curve it can be up there, but the arista stuff you can find actually a lot of great deals on used enterprise hardware On ebay, that's for sure. So the 10 gig is easy to find on there uh Yeah, i'm not a big fan. I know at some point they'll probably abandon the xcp center app It still exists, but not I don't think it's all that great Do your customers ask you for solutions or problems or for a product? Um It varies with what customer when we do co-managed it work a lot of times internal it departments contact us for consulting Sometimes they know the product. Sometimes they want to know what product. Uh, it's both So yes, both the answers are both the yes I have not done myself testing with the xcp and g and epic, but um, there are people who have you can Look in their forums. They have some people who posted about it It's got a little better with a smaller file, but it is running simultaneously with probably Is this still running in the background? Yes, this is still running in the background Never to get the wattage up that high in here go back over to sensors Yeah, we never peaked above, um, 485 watts. That was our peak I'm disappointed in me I need to do a series of ansible deploy across a bunch of linux servers and kickoff stress on all of them Matter of fact, I could probably just do that here See it was So we'll say 130 or 20 and Dash cpu of 64 There we go Now we go now we're stressing it This should just turn into a solid wall now xcp and g and uh, synology is a storage target so this is Just for storage. We're using ice guzzie on this 406 Give it a minute to let it refresh You guys can probably hear it in the background. I think it's noisy There we go. That's stressing the cpu now We should see a thermal difference for sure. We're just going to warm up the room in there It's going to cause the ac to turn on more. Uh, what's a 10 gig card for your pc? I have the asus one Uh, that works fine the asus rj 45 10 gig So do the intel 520s if you use sfp Look at that wall of processor power Still didn't take too many more watts. It's pretty efficient Well 650 here we are it just hasn't updated 650 watts right now Oh, yes, just put it on there root root and uh, that'll happen There you go. It idled back down But not that one which was the ubuntu lab was running it Just made a block it's like yeah, this is just a blob of all the cpu usage Fun times there it is. There's your blob of cpu usage on that particular server Oh, all right. I'm gonna start turning all these things off Let's let the magic smoke out. Anything's a smoke machine if you try hard enough Yes, my friend let the magic smoke out of one of his systems yesterday He sent me a picture of it. I was like, aw we had a good discussion about magic smoke I didn't read through it. Um, I heard it was actually some actionable advice that the nsa gave on the vpn services We see so many misconfigured vpns. That's a I said, you know, we do network consulting That's a big part of our network consulting is consulting on people who can misconfigure their firewalls and vpns. It's a thing um Yeah It's It's a thing. I don't know people do it How do we shut all these systems down? Go here go here and go here we hit stop That'll stop all these systems Action closed connection closed. Yep. All those systems are done ah Actually, I want to migrate one of them back. So before they This thing's impressive. This synology is impressive too. I'm going to be doing reviews on both of these so Listen, I don't need windows on here. So let's go ahead and just remove it And here we're going to migrate it. So let's migrate this one back over to Some local mvme drives Yep, that's fine So that's migrating back Hey, awesome. I like doing this. Maybe I'll try to do this more often. Winter's going to be here So, um, I have fun and you know, somebody asked me really about disconnecting from my job The problem is I really like what I do. I don't know. Is this a job I'm goofing with servers and talking to about 115 people on a live stream about technology I like this. This is fun for me. I can't I can't I really have a good job if you want to call it a job. So Um Do you have any idea to solve the vm transfer speed problem between xcp and geos put a faster connection between them? Uh If the connections fast enough they transfer really really fast So I don't really have any problems transferring on between them It's all dependent on how fast of a connection speed you have between the devices That's that's where most of If you only have a one gig connection, they can't transfer faster than the most minimum connection on there So if you like what you do, it's not a job and if you get paid for doing it It's like a win. Yeah, I don't play a lot of video games or anything So for me, I like just playing with servers and stuff. This is what I do Um, you know play with some technology. Matter of fact, uh Ooh, I'll give you guys a sneak peek of something I was playing with if I can remember the damn url Where is the url? It would it be Here we go I a lot of people asking about wiki j s. So I started playing with wiki j s I wanted to play with how the markdown language worked and everything else Completely garbage here. This is not a link to something that's live. It's just me duplicating crap out of my forums And creating notes and tutorials Um, I liked wiki j s, but I did find some interesting quirkiness with it that I don't like so This is you know for me. This is what I did for uh, the other night I sat and played with this for a couple hours because it's cool like you know, um I did not like book stack as much matter of fact if i'm not mistaken One of the problems right away Did they ever? fix Uh 2fa in book stack 2fa was not available in book stack when I looked a long time ago. So here's Did they get it done? It's merged in there It doesn't look like it's complete. So it's merged. Is there multi-factory? Can someone I don't we know without digging into it Here's third-party authentication, but that was one of the features was missing from book stack Book stack's the other one. I thought was cool. I just was playing around and set up a demo with the other one I'm still using media wiki for our systems here at the office. Um That was The big thing about the uh setup is I like the wiki language very well We know it. We built our documentation using wiki. So but a few people said hey check out wiki.js. So I did Book stack was the other one, but yeah This is your tesla part of your home lab. Yes, it is. I certainly do testing with my tesla I test people sometimes from the stop light when they rev their engines and we we test who can go faster all the time Damn it It's not where I wanted. There's the tesla. It's just waiting for me to get in it And do some more testing with it. So yes, I do certainly do testing with my tesla All right, that's migrated back over Yes, oh, yeah, we do speed testing with the tesla all the time I can now shut Stop running. It's gonna get quieter in there This thing can stop too Shut down Yep, we know there's things connected to it Is there a third-party docker build that uh for book stack? Oh, there is there is one that adds it so you can add. Okay. Um, yeah, if you're doing it even if you retire Might as well get paid for it. Yeah, uh, I see I did separate things a lot from what I The I separated a lot of what I want to do and don't want to do then I have a video called You know, do I sell my business and that's where I heard Brett and Brett took over a lot of things So I don't want to run the business in the same capacity anymore because as the business has grown I just got bored with the day-to-day like I lost some of my passion For some of the business aspects of it because there's a lot of business things that need to be done Brett takes care of all of that and uh, I run just the technology side where I help consult on projects and things like that So, um, that's what keeps me from retiring or just selling it is because now I've retained Ownership of the business, but I get to play in here in my studio and lab with all the tech things and do consulting with clients So, yeah Are you familiar with census? They they're non-stop scanning ports and it's annoying. Um, yes I actually met some of the people there and at a hacking event They're just like a showdan. They're just scanning the internet. Um, it is what it is I've seen their stuff come up in alerts. They get identified. So I don't know is what it is. They there's just another showdan where they're documenting the internet I think they're a paid service. Uh, they're not like Yeah, they're not I don't know how much they're They go around scanning stuff and I think they sell you access to that Which showdan has I'm actually a paid showdan user I like showdan. There's Search engine for internet showdan is still my favorite if you're looking for a tool recommendation for that, but yes PF sense will never migrate to linux. I'm sorry. I'm not going to happen the Reality is they're not going to migrate to linux because you're based on pf filter Um, and there's other linux space firewalls out there. So that's not where they're going That's fun What if you can use showdan to find the census systems? And then block them just tossing ideas out there That might work. I don't know you can probably get a list of their ip addresses and then block them if you don't want I'm scanning or when they do scan you block them until you've run out of eventually they run out of ip to scan you with Whatever the internet is Absolutely hammering all my systems at any given moment with scans Welcome to the internet So that's uh, hopefully makes sense there I should just pull the questions up right here Major to see You know, I can even if we do this remove share or share screen Um, where did it go? Let's put these right here That makes it easier, right? They're not looking off to the side. I'll answer these few more questions three more minutes And I'm gonna go home Uh I don't know free bsd is not going away anytime soon You know, I say soon but in technology years that means at least I would say free bsd Pretty confidently has 10 years in the bag 20 years I don't know what'll change in 20 years, but I'm going to say You know the long tail of legacy and all the things that support it You got to remember even support contracts right now today are being sold with five years support contracts by people like ix systems For their enterprise free bsd true nas offering So you at least have five years of development And by the way, if you didn't know ix systems and pf cents and a few other of these projects are big contributors to bsd So it's not like it's just going away. The minute they release a new version It takes a while for these versions to be Well adopted in the marketplace and with still in 2021 selling five-year contracts that means there's at least five years of support and then You already know if you work in tech people don't replace things when support runs out They replace it when the need to support the device runs out. So yeah, um I don't know if free bsd is really a cult, but it's definitely a unique group of individuals so but then again any time you get into the Uh esoteric individuals in some of these it's almost cultish and I won't I won't think you're not wrong about that So it's definitely a unique culture to get into All right. Thank you all for joining awesome talking everybody. I definitely had a fun time Uh I'll do this again on thursday for sure and actually this thursday I think ray i'm confirming it but ray should be able to join me this thursday ray. Um or sinney of oi Voight oi t void. I don't think he likes it when I call it oi void But uh, he was uh the person who did the video is about the d dos attacks a couple of them I have on my channel. So awesome do uh, he's gonna be joining me and we're gonna talk about building scalable large-scale Networks and I think we're gonna do it this thursday. I'll get that posted pretty soon here um Posted my forums for more in-depth questions Uh for those of you that just asked the open vpn question post in the forums for pf sense You'll find a lot of the answers are in there There's a big community in the pf sense forums to help you with that check the logs post the logs post the results And hopefully it helps. All right. Thanks. This has been a great two hours Loved having all of you hit that like button for you leave and uh see you thursday That's when I'll do the next live stream. I'll do some videos in between. I have plans Thanks