 So wonderful. So I think I'm audible to everyone and I will be, you know, very grateful to all the panelists who have, you know, taken out time from their busy schedule. So thanks for joining in for the session. We have all the kids from ranging from grade nine to 12 from different schools and especially NPS across Bangalore. And we are joined with by three distinguished panelists today, children, and I will be introducing them to you. But before we start, I really hope and sincerely wish that everybody is healthy and you are taking utmost precautions about the situation which is at hand right now and I am hoping that none of you are venturing out unnecessarily. Anyway, you must be aware now that coming 10th onwards we will be having some stringent restrictions in the city. So please adhere to the norms. And whatever we discussed the other day that is there before yesterday by Dr. Venkat and Dr. Uma gave us a lot of insights about how to manage this, you know, as a student. So I hope you would be following those instructions with those words I let me welcome our three distinguished panelists today and the theme as you know is architecture and other than food, I think architecture is the next thing which is there since civilization was, you know, started on this planet. So hence that is something which is part of our lives and we can't run away or even, you know, in fact, as a matter of fact, when I was in IIT, Kharagpur has a very good architecture school and there I used to think that okay, you know, this is some alien kind of a world. When I used to enter there, lots of design arcades and facades were there and I was like totally thrilled and something we used to think that how is this engineering in any sense, only to realize later on that we were really unfortunate not to pay importance to such things. And, and now I realize and I know that, you know, something which we have taken for granted, let me tell you because we take every, you know, everything which is very important for granted. And later on only realize that oh, this was architecture, oh my God, I had a very wrong notion about the field. And that is happening to most of our children as well. In fact, I'll share my experience when I entered, you know, IIT Kharagpur. There, unfortunately, those who could not get the so-called distinguished branches of the world, they ended up being architect today. And today I personally envy them that my God, why was my rank not like that. And, you know, I would have taken that professional course and it is such a fascinating world. So hence to talk about this course and to expose you about this particular field, which is part of civilization as I already told you, and we can't ignore it. We have three distinguished guests today. So I will introduce all of all of them to you one by one and ma'am, whenever if I have some, you know, I could not elaborate on your this thing so please pardon me for that. So we have first Dr. Geeta Viji and hello ma'am and welcome to the session so it's really an honor to be, you know, It's architect Geeta Viji. Yes, sorry, sorry. So that's another, you know, great mistake which we do. So like what we, you know, address our doctors community. Similarly, we have to, you know, address architect architects as well. So hence we have architect Geeta Viji. She's an architect with a creative eye and she's a designer, she's an entrepreneur. She also had something called flora arcade consultancy and after, you know, working in multiple projects in her career, she is now doing full fledged, you know, she is running one organization and under her there are lots of people who are getting trained and getting, you know, help in this particular sector so welcome ma'am and I will be very you know our children will be really fortunate to listen to you and your experiences. Hello to all of you. Okay, so just a minute. I will also, there are lots of audience which is coming in so I'm inviting them one by one. So pardon me for that. Next, I have another very veteran architect architect Aruna Sivasharan and she is from UBC, one of the famous universities in India and Karnataka and especially for architecture. After having worked with the various projects in corporate world, she does freelancing consultancy as well so welcome ma'am and your experience and your, you know, years of learning yourself if you can just throw some light on some bit of that is absorbed by our set of students. That will be a great, you know, this thing for our students as well. And then we have someone who teaches and that's why that's where we connect and thanks to leave ma'am to be, you know, to be part of this. And she is a faculty, she's a, she's a professor, she teaches with Amiti School of Architecture and Planning and Interior Design. She has 18 years of experience and a broad range of skills and ranging from, you know, an industry experience. And she has been a winner of multiple awards, she has lots of publications in the field and ma'am welcome as an, as an academician, you know, I know you will be able to guide our children to not only, you know, pursue this course, if they're interested and they find their calling. And also let's say they end up doing high end research in the particular field and because lots of our students in Bangalore, I can, I can tell you, they are very much keen on being a part of the research world. And hence your expertise, your experience definitely is going to work here. So that's the introduction. I'm really sorry if I could not, you know, add, you know, or let's say if I have missed out on some point you can take the, you know, the platform and talk about your experiences. So let's begin and I will now invite architect Geetha to, you know, talk about the field as such architecture and I have very limited knowledge about, I only know my B. Ark friends and the people who have done masters and the only notion which I had so far that they are excellent in designing and, you know, the great aesthetic sense and one very close friend of mine from Kharagpur is into, you know, in architecture, and I keep seeing his posts on social media and other places. And I keep saying that this kind of creativity is something God's blessing. So hence, please enlighten us about the field, ma'am, the notions which we have that it has to do only with drawings. And I used to think initially that how come this is part of an engineering institute, which later on I, you know, I got clarification but then your experience and, you know, knowledge will definitely add value here. So please enlighten us about the program or the course as such. So first of all, thank you Mr. Tushar for having invited us here to speak. And to be very frank, you've said it all without actually knowing you've said a lot many and you know a lot too much actually. I think we should actually meet your standards now. So, so saying that I should say art and technology makes architecture. Sort of in a very, in a brief note, and it's more of an, it's an experience, and it's an extension to our lifestyle of a particular period. In the sense, today we are living in the 20s 2021 so we do have some expression, probably our grandparents. So I'm going to relate to more of school children. So I'm going to talk to them where I can address this so if you go a little past what your grandparents how they lived. So that kind of a culture and all the social cultural and the lifestyle, it's an extension of that. Okay. And second thing is wherever we go, it's an expression wherever you go in experience right you go to a result you say wow what a wonderful place. So that means you experience it. So that is what you see you envision you vision there is something to do with the vision it's all to do the sensory organs where you enjoy you feel touch everything that is expressed here in art and art and architecture, and it is culture based. And most third thing most importantly, it vibrates, or it represents that particular region's climate, the culture, the climate basically the regional climate that actually, you know, embodies what we portray in architecture, because Rajasthan and Bangalore are two different climates, and our buildings relate differently. So that means to say, every climate has a different setup and what we enjoy. So then brief, this is what I think Madam Aruna and Tulika can take it forward from here. Yeah, great. So now I think I would now invite architect Aruna ma'am to you know throw some light on the subject matter, and also, you know if you can help us with one very vital question which all the students typically face. Now how do you end up or let's say how do you decide a particular feel and basically what I'm trying to understand from you in particular is, what was that decision point or how did you arrive at this particular decision that you would be in, you know, taking up architecture for your profession. So that that would definitely help our children to you know go for whenever they feel they find themselves in that particular juncture, then that that particular your experience is going to help them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good evening children and Tushar and thanks a lot for inviting me and thank you architect Geetha, especially she joined, asked me to join for this evening. Yeah, as she said it's a spatial experience in totality what we feel we can't pinpoint you know we were told it's art and science of building. It's both you have to be good in mathematics you have to go good in art. And those who are good in this they will naturally get attracted to this. That's what happened with me, as I was finishing my, you know, the school PUC and all, I was very much interested in traveling art pictures of I mean photography, everything. And I thought this course would be ideal. And those who like these things and take this course it will be a breeze. It won't be like you are mentioned it's five years of, you know, a lengthy period at the end of five years we feel that we are just being introduced. Okay, you know there is a lot of learning starts after this five years. So enjoy the five years. That's what I'm telling the kids, but you should be prepared that it should be your liking, it should be your passion. There are, you know, few who quit at the first semester only, you know, and there were some classmates of mine, they found it very quickly that this is not shocked for them. So that too happens. But now you have the opportunity to listen to us and you are better exposed than in seventies, when I joined, we had no inclination but we had a great I had a great liking for art and architecture, and I had few seniors my uncle and my elder brother cousin brother they were also architects, kind of you know I had a doctor's exposure and architects exposure, and I felt this was it for me. And that's how I took it and no regrets. And it gives you a very broad, you know, sense of experience to enjoy the life and also be as a professional. Sorry ma'am, sorry. So basically the takeaway is guys, you know, this is one profession unique profession I must say which is mix of arts and sciences. And hence someone who's interested in both of them. Let's say someone has outstanding creative and aesthetics sense, which I particularly don't have. And, and someone who's also good at mathematics is a very good combination in a, you know, a field where you can satisfy both your, you know, intellectual curiosity. So very good. Thanks for that explanation ma'am. Now I would also like to hear from architect Tulika ma'am to, you know, understand what was her, you know, factors which made her take this. Or typically I'll tell you during our time, at least you know, when we were writing our J exams and all, we were typically, you know, pushed by the ranking system of the examination so we really did not have any idea. We did not even know that chemical engineering is not about chemistry. And because of those such myths actually we lost a lot of opportunities in our life so hence, we also want our students to understand, you know, what all aspects are there before decision taking a decision of all this because as ma'am was telling us that you know some of her friends and colleagues actually started but then realize that okay this is not there, you know, 40. So what should we do as a groundwork as on, you know, as at the stage so that we do not reach that level and we enjoy the subject matter when we join the course. Tulika ma'am. Yes. First of all, thank you to show and thank you for inviting me here. It's a wonderful portal to be addressing the students or especially 91010 who have got aspirations for becoming an architect and becoming a, it is a field where you can really express yourself endlessly. If you feel full of life, it is a way of life what I would suggest you. And that is what I've experienced in my life from the if you have that knack of asking questions, what, where, how you have that some research bend in your mind. How this is done. This is, this is a field for that for those people who for those students for those candidates who think that they can be creative, as well as they can be innovative and get to new things. After all, we are living in one kind of a scenario one kind of an habitat, and why not we can change, we have to change changes inevitable. So we have to go towards a different kind of a scenario different kind of building we have to have that kind of research bend of mine, we have to have that kind of know how. And it needn't be that you know we, you are the future, you are our future of tomorrow, you are our future. So it doesn't mean that you don't have the skills probably with different with the skills which you which the college will give you any architecture college will give you, you'll come up to that level that you can research you can do any kind of design that's what I tell my students always. And my life has also been like that that from my earliest my house was getting built. That's what the change overcame in me and I wanted to do the same work I want to do to design. I wanted to make those places, make it more livable, make it more functional, make it more creative. So that was my dream and my ideology. Okay, great. So what I take away from ma'am's, you know, discussion is that you know this is a field again, like many others, you will be if you are really creative person and you your appetite is for you know, doing something creative day in day out if you want to get into a profession where you see a lot of creativity around you and as I told you one of my very close friends is into architecture. And when I see his creativity, whether he's designing a workspace, or he's designing a building for that matter or even for, you know, let's say he displays his the interior design skills and all that. I get to understand the functionality which ma'am is talking about and when we will talk to architect Geetha ma'am also on the you know ecosystem and environmental aspects of architecture later. So you will see this field is full of opportunities, and it's not that you know, everything is now known there are lots of innovative research is what I came to know is going on when I was also studying all these while before we are conducting this session that what all cutting edge, you know, building material or for that matter, you know lighter material is used or the design aspects have to be such. So lots of creativity and innovation is there in this profession itself so if you are of that nature where you are having both banks of mind that is your artistic as well as you are objective in your approach, then this could be one of the fields to look for am I right architect Geetha ma'am and you know so now the next question is to you only that you know you finished your architecture course and then you gain your professional excellence and post that now you're an entrepreneur. So you could have a well chosen established firm where you know people are doing or you can be a part of a big MNC. You know, for example, I think companies like L&T or I'm just just throwing names I am not very sure who all are into it but you can basically throw more light on my question is, how, you know, how did this come to you or what is the percentage of the people who are also willing to, you know, strive into entrepreneurial route of architecture so that is very, very difficult. I understand that you know to establish your own setup and then get into this after, you know, you could have always chosen a very settled sort of say life and you ended up being an entrepreneur yourself so you can just throw some light on because today's generation is very keen on entrepreneurship. Let me tell you, so everybody is talking about startups only these days. So hence your experience of you know going into a professional course and then switching over into a role of entrepreneur may give some, you know, light to them so ma'am please. Yeah. Again, I would like to relate to the ninth and 10th standard and there how it took off. Okay. The only thing is like this I used to be in the summer holidays and then you know what I would only look forward to in the morning start doing some sketches and all that and wait for my father to come and just give me a pat and say wow you've done a good job. Okay, so that's when my father in the ninth and 10th probably he was the one who recognized that she is interested in art. So I was doing this, you know, kind of sketches and all that I could do something for whatever. Then it came in second person was the first person to write in the form architecture for my daughter. So you know, your parents help you a lot in making this decision. Okay. And second, second what happens is again it's the inbuilt quality of a person you know, you are the person who talked a lot and wants to do something you know I would always imagine myself. Whenever I would like to think about myself I would say, if I go I wanted to lead a team, you know, I would want to carry an executive bag and people around me and listening to me I want to do this and I want to do that that kind of nature I had in me. So I was more of a team lead with a team and I would work like that so that gives you, you know, a killing, a gut feeling that you are there and not, you know, on the other side, on the other side where you can, you know, work under somebody you can actually lead a team. So that gives you one thing. And the third thing is an expression, because architecture, if given a project given to me, the same project given to Madame Tulika, and the same project given to Madame Aruna, we see two, three different ways. Okay, and the expression is so variant. It's so varied and it actually relates to what lifestyle we have gone through what we have experienced and all that. So when we are expressing certain things. And then I work with somebody else you know sometimes it matches sometimes it actually we work as a team. Sometimes it actually even reverses we can go opposite also we think differently. So these things when I wanted to express more creatively. And then I was very technical and engineering but I wanted to see as I told you it is art and architecture art and technology. And this is nothing to do with being just painting and coming out of it. Okay, I wanted to see the translation between paper. Okay, and the ground. Okay, I wanted to see that happen. I wanted to live the dream. Okay, whatever I'm doing on paper is actually happening at site. So when that connection I wanted to establish I was more fit into practice. And I have enjoyed thoroughly all through my 20 years. Okay, thanks, thanks, thanks for that response ma'am and so children and students you now know that you know, you know, so this is one of the fields where actually you can accomplish both the dreams let's be being a professional, as well as leading, you know, or let's leading a firm or establishing your own setup. So if you wish to do that. And I know lots of my friends and my colleagues and seniors are into into this world, and they are doing a wonderful job. Similar question I wanted to pose it to Tulika ma'am because she is coming from an academic background. So she is, she did her professional course and then now she is into teaching of this particular course to other students. So hence, how do you suggest ma'am and what do you see from our teachers perspective or faculty members perspective, how you know children can also take advantage of being into academia for this particular profession. Definitely, we need teachers and we are always on the lookout for if you think that architects generally out when you do a project you have a big client tell you are a team lead as said by me, ma'am. And they are, when you're a team lead you make people understand your project that side, you talk to people. So you are in a way educating. So I think the person who has done architecture can easily become a faculty can go towards academia if he or she wants to have that career and the career is boundless. I will tell you, I joined as a ad hoc faculty, and then now I am doing my PhD and would be a professor. And there is a, there is a complete hierarchy to stepping up developments in the academia. Plus, there is sort of a lot of research work which is going with the academic. Now, with the present situation, the academic institutions are looking forward for entrepreneurs and startups, and all those things who gamut of project with the young minds, the creative minds can give us some ideas that we can with our ability to analyze with our the faculty and the industry. There is a complete cohesion now we are looking for industry and academia together. So you will not only doing only academic work, I would also be collaborating with the industry. So it is a very interesting field of academics. I would say that. Great, great to know. Huge potential in it. I see. So that is another, you know, very vital point what ma'am is highlighting here is, if you are into academia where you are into that's a teaching, it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to restrict yourself to teaching. So ma'am, maybe, yeah, ma'am, I think you want to suggest that there are lots of consultancies anyways as a part of academics, you would be doing. And hence, you can have a balancing of both both the words or you can get the advantages of both the words. So even if you land up in the academia of the particular profession, you always can do, you know, a role where you have the advantage of the academia, you can become a teacher professor and all. And simultaneously, you can also participate in the, you know, what, let's say, Gita ma'am is doing where she is translating her innovation ideas into realities. Both worlds advantage you have. Now, this brings us to a very important question because now we will try to open up the field itself. What exactly does an architect do. So what all subjects do you study what all subjects I must be good at so that I learn the course well and what, you know, typical day of an architect, how would you describe that so I would like to listen from all three of you. So by maybe Gita ma'am can start followed by Aruna ma'am you have to just tell the students and in terms of you know what exactly does our day of architect look like what all activities do you do. Okay, see I am into project management. Okay, so it is a little, what do you say as little specialized technical aspects of it so that what happens is my half a day, believe me goes into project management getting all the projects on board what are the activities happening on board. My WhatsApp is like full of projects, you know teens. Okay, so we keep on interacting. The second half. Once I get on to it post lunch I sit on my design and the next six hours goes on to my design interacting with my own office. So I'll have to do design, then translate it into working drawing and then actually I'll have a way across, you know, clientele meetings. And now it's online so it is nice it's very vibrant so we do that. So it typically starts with this and again the design then interaction of the client and the vendors and the whole lot of gamut of people who we interact to get the project through the next day. So we can keep on doing this and this is how a typical day works, and it is challenging, and it is a lot of work, but you should enjoy it as madam Aruna said, and if you are enjoying it, then nothing like it. I think Aruna madam can take it forward. Yeah, so Aruna madam can enlighten us on let's say you know so typically let's say if I want to choose and you know to be an architect. So what all subjects will I be studying anyway so what all aspects of architecture are there and I must be taking care of these these let's say subject matter or I must be good at aesthetics design perspective I'm not sure what all are there also so you can just throw some light on that man. Yeah, five years you know it's very well syllabus is very well worked out. We have to study a little bit of history of architecture for six semesters, all the through the globe from all the old history of architecture. Sorry to cut you short man here so our students have you know lots of students have this aversion towards history. But this is interesting you know you know you'll know how those people like Geeta mentioned in that time what they were building you know some centuries 34 millennium back before Christ, Egyptian architecture, architecture it's interesting it's unlike the typical history what we ours at that is there and the building materials what we build our buildings with you know like there are local materials if you build with the local materials, it's more sustainable. Okay, that is a punch word now you know the building has to be green and sustainable. Okay, because this is the maximum carbon output, giving out activity in the world so everybody needs like bylaws are being satisfied even there is a certification that building is sustainable. So building materials and building construction what are the techniques you are using to build the building. I say we have structures you know the real reinforcements what we are going to put and of course the acoustics and the climatology we have to learn. I see and you know the sanitary, plumbing, water supply and we begin with mathematics and language also in the first semester and later on we have professional practice as one subject. So you have to know how a profession has to be practiced. So, after finishing I feel that students should work in one or two offices for one or two years and then spring out like Geeta, like you know start on your own, you will know, because you're just come out you're being introduced. So working in one or two or one office for one year is a good beginning. So the follow up question will be that I understood is you cannot do over with mathematics point number one. So lots of people think that you know if I am. So I can really just skip mathematics and or the mathematical thought process and just correct me if I'm wrong you know basically that much. It is not that intensive in mathematics but there must there has to be some bit of some element of mathematics into it. Some elements as you know common sense broader this in designing of structures but we have the structural engineers to fill up that. I see. If you have studied all that you will be able to design better. Okay, okay that's that's that's really you know great direction on that ma'am and now I'd like to hear from Julika ma'am on the same this thing but an additional question is I will talk as a novice. I also am you know totally unknown with this field so my all my I had this misconception or whatever that you know you must be very good with your aesthetics and art artistry. If you're not very good in that then you're a pathetic architect any which way so don't even think of going in that direction so is my understanding correct because lots of people have this notion today that your boss if you are not good with your artistics you know you are not good at painting and sketching and all that. So probably this field is not for you and is my understanding correct or you'd like to correct it ma'am please. Actually this field is for the people who can have dreams and transfer to paper. Okay, and it the dreams can be anything it not be if they don't have the skill of sketching as it is now what is happening is is we are going towards digitization. Okay, okay. So we are also feeling in our academia that this way we are drafting making students learn is not probably we have to do some changes in it. Okay, because of digitization maximum of softwares are there, catchpads are there, pro sketchpads are there, which the students can use. Obviously the first year, the informative year first year would be more to stress on your sketching to make your ideas for more and to make you come up with newer ideas and make you build up like you have some positives in you maybe your sketching is weak so we work towards it so what is the strength you have. So in the academia we work towards your strength. Okay, okay. We do not see that that's what Amity University we are doing a progression of students from the first year itself and we are seeing that what a student is good towards maybe he has good analytical skills. Okay. Maybe she has she's good with building construction. Okay. So we build on those subjects and make the students stronger to become an architect to pursue his dream or her goals. Okay. Oh, great. So another subsequent question on to this man because I was also going through all these and whatever we were seeing around in IIT Kharagpur the department was called architecture and town planning or regional planning actually to be precise regional planning. So what is this regional planning part of this game so architecture I can understand okay design a building and let's say a society maybe a apartment complex or office complex or a shopping complex but this regional planning when it comes what does that actually mean so hence maybe that would be another area where people would be interested or town planning or urban planning whichever way you urban planning regional planning is all about city planning. There we plan our cities accordingly, which like you have a whole gamut of infrastructure there. Okay, you have your hospitals to be planned you have your restaurants to be planned. Okay, you have your schools and universities to be planned. So how you plan those with your green area pockets and with the road infrastructure and with all the gamut of things is together the regional planning which we and it differs from region to region. And I am very sure that in a city like Bangalore we are desperately looking for such planning people who can help us you know, you know mitigate this congestion issues and all those. Thanks for those. Yes, please. When it comes to planning, see what happens you just think about your house. It is a micro world. Okay, when you think about the city, it is a micro world. Okay, we are relating what is the city it is the macro world. Okay, you are relating to the macro world. Okay, this many number of houses or this this is the population of that city these number of schools are there this much of green is necessary. These many hospitals are needed. So these are the things and this these kind of road should be there. So that we plan at the macro level. I see. And this is the micro level. So the two words are interrelated. Okay, so everything what is applied the sanitary the plumbing everything relates from the macro to micro macro macro and back to me. So this is managing of this. So it's whole whole thing becomes a unit architecture and urban planning. But honestly speaking, let's say in a country like India where cities are already pre populated. And now, you know, we are talking about smart cities if you talk about sustainable millennium sustainable goals and all that. So you know, smart cities concept is going to be there in future. So I think that could be a futuristic, you know, field where our students who are pursuing architecture and town planning are going to be absorbed into. So they are the builders of smart cities of tomorrow. So that is where the town planning thing will be more applicable. Yes, see today, you know what we have Bangalore. As you said today it is the COVID time, you know, so you can already see there are certain pockets which are very density populated. Like the Avenue Road and that area and the city market area and all, you know, density is quite high. Tensely populated. Yes. And then we have the other, you know, old areas and then we have the outskirts and the green belt which is green belt is going further and further and further away. Okay, and we have taken the lung spaces away from the heart of the city. So these things are happening but in a smart city what happens is which Bangalore was not planned for these many schools. We didn't know the population is going to be so massive. Right. And now that we know we can take a satellite town. Satellite towns are those which are very close to the cities. Like who is a satellite town of Bangalore, for example. So when we establish those centers, you know, that becomes a smart city where we can plan a little better in terms of population, the climate and everything studied together. So the sanitation, the plumbing can also be, you'll be suffering already in your own areas. This can be addressed pre-planned. So the children who are right now in school, definitely I can see a great, you know, prospect for all of you in this particular field, 10 years down the line when you will be joining the workforce, let's say, and even early, then, you know, these things will be much in demand. So hence you can seriously pursue these professional courses in future. Now, ma'am talked about pandemic. Now this, you know, again raises my curiosity because do we have now is the world thinking about, you know, managing pandemics, you know, or what role the architecture has to play. For example, the other day we had a discussion on how obviously the medicine people are on the front line. But do we also have, you know, something to deal with such epidemics or pandemics, you know, in the field of architecture, would you enlighten us on that? Because now I think I have a very strong belief that our coming generation are going to be impacted by these things much and much more, you know, more. Yes. So hence, is there something or I'm just drawing a unusual correlation between the two or is there something where the architects of the world today are also contributing to deal with such situations in future? Can I, can I just? Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. Yeah, now Pritzker Award is like Nobel Prize given in architecture field. Oh, is it? So that is okay. And this years, you know, in March, two French architects were given. You know, for that, what they were given their contribution was never to demolish any building. Now, the sustainability is the key word. You know, the most of buildings has caused this pandemic also, you know, down the line directly, maybe not, but you know, go slow in all the ways. I see. And you know, that is the key. So pandemic just hold on. Yeah, and you know, rethink your designs. This is the time, even, you know, those who are not being launched, please do rethink keeping this pandemic and everything in your mind, future. See, there's more sustainable buildings only will be allowed to build. Okay, I think Tulika will be teaching that in our, you know, academics. The most important thing now is this. So this pandemic time, let them be aware of this, when all the activities have come to a kind of standstill. I see. Okay, thanks. Thanks, ma'am. Thanks for that. Yes, ma'am. And you're saying something there. So I was just telling that I would like Madam Tulika to take it as to what they have done in their academics now in this regard and then I'll take it forward. Sure, sure, ma'am. Yes, please. We have a subject in architecture in the system is sustainable. Okay, energy, energy efficient buildings. Yes, okay. And they are human subjects which we are looking forward to eco friendly buildings. All those we teach in our institution and we also give a kind of seminars workshops. All those are conducted by international, international people from the industry, as well as academia. We contribute, even we are trying for the students we try when we are looking at their key skills, when we are looking at the design. We always pitch in and forward the idea of this sustainability and try to make the child or the student understand how would the future be for the next generation. Why I picked this thing was lots of our students are very activist in climate change and all those. So these are very close topic, very close to our topic for our children. Now so they are very particular about that they don't want to, even if I ask them to print a worksheet and they will say no, no, it consumes papers. Yes, they are like, yeah. We will not do that. So hence I brought this topic in. And secondly, I have heard in Bangalore, for example, there are some buildings. For example, I used to work with itc so they have itc gardenia which is supposedly a green building in itself so there's some award called lead award or something I'm not. Yes, so hence, now you can see in your city as well. There are a few few buildings which are now very sensitive to their carbon footprint and all that so hence, if you are interested in climate change and associated. Subjects and let's say so hence being an architect who is, you know, working in the field of sustainable and green, you know, building concepts, you are going to be you know rocking the world so you are going to be the most sought after people, I believe, later in the future. So yes, ma'am I will now hand over to Geetha ma'am to you know add add her point on this ma'am. Can I take it as a PPT now. Please do that you can share the screen so you can just share a screen in this regard so. Okay. See today I'm talking about a bio centric designer. Okay. So what Madam Tulika and Madam Aruna having to say that today we are going to talk about quality living. We are going to talk about quality living and what can do magic if we try to address the problems, as Tulika madam said the question starts from here you know, why, what, how, when, and now more than ever. And why we should do today. Because we are in a very, very bad state, and probably this is because it is a man made word we only focused on what is good to us. Okay, we thought this earth belongs to us. So we do anything we are, you know, we are in a mismanage all our resources, or we overuse it, and then think of correcting it. Okay, and actually in the game a lot of not lots many warnings but we didn't listen to it. Okay. Because I want to cut this presentation a little, you know, quickly. So let me come through this. So the next slide shows what is Bangalore. Okay, look at the lung spaces. Okay, yes. So today, you can see this is the lung space in the heart of the city the UB city once UB city then it came to this. And now today we are here. Okay, it's a concrete jungle. Okay, did we didn't we do it. So who's the trace which is the root cause and cancer is tumor tumor. Okay, aren't we the pandemic. And that's what I feel we are the pandemic we have caused all the trouble for ourselves and the world around us. Okay, and what has led it led to this you know this whatever we did the carbon footprint was what madam I don't know what's talking about has led us to extreme meddling of bio habitat. Everybody's habitat we meddled with. Let alone be building a habitat you meddled with others. So it started with the global warming. It gave us a warning. This no started melting. Then we had the Scotch sunflower crop we didn't take it. Then we had this carbon footprint emission from the industries we still didn't take it. Look at the Delhi and Bangalore today it is like the smog here. Okay. And did we still take it. No. So when we went on doing this, I think we asked for the trouble. And then in the 2000s, which only then we started seeing the tsunami. Then we saw the forest fire in Australia. Then we saw this extreme drought, and now even the pink snow or what you call the acid rain and all this coming up okay. So I'm relating to what has led us these are the problems what we did. How many of children now I would like to be very interactive with the children here. Anybody can say yes and move to me. Just call off your video and say how many of you are missing this. See look at parents with this hop skip and jump here. Look at those children actually hanging below. Children can just reply in the chat box about what ma'am is asking about. Yes ma'am please. See how children look at the colour, look at this tug of war. Can you be as close as this in the pandemic now? We are 3 feet away. Probably 6 feet away. How long have you taken to touch your butterfly in your yard? Okay, so this has led us to an extreme situation where we are jailed and the others are outside. Okay, so and look at how many of children I mean I just really want to know and you can be loud also. How many have this 9th and 10th students okay. I don't think so they have experienced a sparrow chirping in the garden. I think ours was the last generation who saw sparrows you know. I've never heard because it died because or it went away. How many of you have seen sparrows in Bangalore? Anyone? Anyone has seen Anuj has seen it. Okay, lots of people have actually or they are saying okay. So see the responses indicate and we are seeing this question indicates that something which was so common in our lives. Now it has become a trivia question in a session like this. So you can imagine what kind of intensity of damage ma'am is talking about ma'am. Yeah, it is the radiation that has caused this okay. And look at the children with the chips and the obese tummy because of the mobile they are holding on. And look at the damage it is causing to the using the phones I tell you Mr. Tushar always keeps telling don't use the mobile use only your you know PCs to attend your class you know why because this is the reason. Okay, nobody wants to be like this with that intense damage to your thinking your gray cells will become black very soon so you cannot do that. So these are the things so what led us here. Okay, why because we started with the need if you go to your forefathers this lived in villages and it doesn't organically they used to have a hut. They used to have whatever basics they had they had a cow shed they had all this these animals. So it was an organic balance between agriculture and eating and drinking and finish it. That was their day. So they lived in their minimal wants. Then it started the yellow period. Okay, we started okay need is not enough we went on to want. We wanted to move. We wanted to move. So what the negative structure started in organic growth. So what we said we started moving and started to start fishing a little bigger town. Okay, and then from there we went off into cities. Then it now today we are in this red zone. And we are literally talking to the online because of this red zone. So green to yellow to red. Now we'll have to go back to the orange. At least we cannot go back to the green we have way way past it. So we'll have to come to the orange that is just to optimize use what is there don't overuse anything. At least for the sake of let go of whatever you have. Okay, and now coming to the solutions. Okay, what we do is the cure human race we need to be both sensitive and sensible. Okay, focus on quality life and we need to be knowledgeable and well inform it's not just being a well informed, well informed by knowledge supported by knowledge. Okay, and then we have biosynthetic global citizens will be we need to become why because we need to have that global environment ecological balance. Okay, that is what we need to talk. And we need to attain an equilibrium between Laura, Laura everybody knows it's flowers and all that plants and all that fauna animals they're living habitat and the human race optimize use of natural resources and then optimal ratios of all the elements. Okay, then we'll have to minimize our way of you know we can't celebrate these days, how many of us can afford to celebrate just like that waste are all the expenses are on instead going to come to community kind of celebration and do away with that mix with people. Kill this geographical boundaries. Okay, it is no more India Bangladesh Nepal China America, we are one word, think of the word because earth is only one, and we need to live in the same earth on the same month and use it to effectively and just and leave it for others also to use. Okay, and then lifestyle should be very, very, you know, balanced. Okay. And then education and life education formal education is one thing what we get and learn the life education from your parents and your grandparents. Okay, how they lived what they were happier than us right. Okay, so then, whenever you ask your parents, okay, do you really need another mobile. Okay, then just ask yourself do I really need it. Wanted, or can I do without it. Okay, and less dependent on gadgets. Okay, that's when your thinking starts. Okay, and then limited and motor vehicles if you can actually go by walk please do it and then electrically charged and avoid closed door activities instead go play in the park. Practicing self quarantine. Okay, use public transport. And you know, I think we all drink a lot of tea and coffee then go to green tea and these you know why I'm telling is if your lifestyle does not change. Your expression does not change if your expression does not change, the architecture will never change. Okay, so it is always reinterrelated. So now what thing you know our situation says, stop, hold, think and then proceed as madam Maru Aruna said, think and proceed. We are wrongly placed now. Why because we have led it here. We have led this year. Okay, we the process was wrong. So the product was naturally rock. Next, we are coming to what ends when we do see now technology development. So what we are going to do is earth does not belong to us it belongs to many. So let's talk about the collaboration with, you know, geologists environmentalist architects doctors, economists, we all need to work together. Okay, and then recognize red alert zones and established fully you know you'll have to have pandemic now you know disaster management centers. Okay, we need to work on that. And let me tell you, little children. Today, we have labor intensive work as is we are not able to manage. So we are thinking of drone management drone management is a new technology which is entering into project management. Okay, so using drone and it's very magical I'm sure many children are playing Minecraft. I'm sure. Great. How many of you are playing Minecraft. I think I got led. I'll get a lot of replies, you know, including my son. Okay, so I'm telling you, and this drone management is going to really work very effectively and it'll be very creative to you as well. Okay, and then extensive and expensive green. Okay, there's something called Miyawaki style of garden you know that is there having trees, and wherever you find a park try to have a lot many green over there. Okay, then we have design as Sir said Mr. Tushar said what is the difference between micro and micro climate I'm touching that point. Always design your house in such a way that it contributes to the city. Okay, don't build, you know, so many people build so close to their neighbor know I'll also encourage you also encourage but what happens and they're both not at the air they want to breathe at all. Yes, what is needed to ask him is vitamin D and vitamin D when you don't allow some to come in. Nothing works. Okay, and always work in relevance to the demography demography is nothing but population of the city. Okay, and then conserve water waste management as well as water management is necessary saving water and managing water to different things and always customize designs for each and every person. Okay. And then finally, I just studied this particular I was talking about madam all correctly pointed out the use of the right material in the right region. See tropical hot and dry. India enjoys tropical climate so hot and dry desert Rajasthan tropical hot and humid Kerala tropical cold and dry Srinagar cold and wet Assam, then tropical moderate it's Bangalore. I think I think this is a perfect, perfect slide justifying studies of geography in class schools. Now typically you know our our children have a few of them I'm not generalizing it but few of them had to have this notion that come 11th and all this is gone and they're happy. Nice if you are planning to be in you know architecture and you know all these fields. See, it is coming back right so that's what I keep on emphasizing on that hey tropical hot and climate where do you study all of this. It's in geography of 9th and 10th grade so hence and our architects are talking about it that means you know we can't really take any subject which is being taught in school just slightly. And tomorrow you think that oh my God if I would have paid some more attention there probably I was in a better place better position. So please, you know this message what I can draw from these slides are one that whatever we are learning it's going to merge together for sustainable development tomorrow whether you're an engineer whether you're an architect whether you're a doctor whether you're a you know lawyer or whatever so you are going to have laws around buildings you have to be you know media person around you must have that multidisciplinary approach for anything we do so hence you cannot have a deaf ear towards something hey this is not of interest to me you can't we can't really afford that any anymore. So you know whatever is being discussed please you know draw a lot of influences like this from this and you have to prepare yourself because Mam was talking about water I'm really concerned about the water availability in this city itself after let's say 10 years in one decades time and maybe you know some of you are planning to you know shift your base to abroad or some other places but your parents your great parents are going to be in this city here only right so they are going to you know they are not going to go with you trust me I have not been able to drive my parents out of their homes so trust me you are not you will also be not be able to drive your parents you know and bring along with you know not possible. So hence when we are going to stay in this city then we must be concerned about all these small small things which ma'am is highlighting how thanks for bringing on these things ma'am sorry I just interrupted your. It's a very valid input sir so I'm just also talking about sun path in the wind direction that decides your structure which orientation you need to have your building in northeast is the best light. I'm telling you after me madam Aruna will take it up because she had her husband as a structural engineer and I had the opportunity to work on one of her projects and we worked as a team and it was a wonderful experience so it was nice to work with madam so she will take it forward from here after this. Okay and then having said that then I've actually just said in a moderate climate by like Bangalore okay we are 3500 feet above sea level okay let me go and not go into the details 4 to 7 you know if every other city in India enjoys 4 to 5 climates okay 4 climates in the whole year we enjoy nearly about 5 climates in a day probably it is raining in some parts of Bangalore today. Okay suddenly it is raining in some area suddenly it is hot so then I've studied what should make 4 a.m. to 7 a.m. I have a climate 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. then I made a study of this so that means why I did the study is during what time I can have the AC off the AC switched off I may not I mean conserving that much of energy okay so I can have that so when it's a moderate climate I have the right to play and I should contribute back to you know earth you can't simply use just because you have power when you don't have to use it yeah okay so next coming to this slide okay then varying temperatures through the day causes changing seasons cause differential temperature quickly you know why we suddenly have a lot of cold in the evening and then you know what we start sneezing and all that so that is very much bone and then we have the carbon footprint very high in Bangalore so both put together we lose our health okay so these are the things which are leading so our quality of life matters okay so this is what I inferred from the study of the climate of that region and this is how today I'm going to talk madam Maruna was already telling about green buildings so I have done a particular this I'm going to take in context to Bangalore okay I'm going to show this HLFTC building because I didn't want to take somebody's project I thought let me talk about this so HLFTC is nothing but a flight test center building okay this is the airport road I think this is in the airport road very much if you have seen it is an airport road it is a green building and Holism Germany actually recognize this particular building because you can see the orientation of the building it is oriented towards northeast okay and so that is one of the reasons my building is like this okay and you can see this is a triple glaze and it's monitoring the runway there so the actually the building concept was this and a real building is this so there is no variation whatsoever this gives a lot of impetus on what the climate can do to your building okay and I do not use a lot of metal and glass wherever essential we do because here we have used because we need to see the runway okay and then in the smaller segment I have done a lot of courtyard houses this is this centerpiece is you know somebody came mad am I just need an Udupi style house okay Udupi is far from Bangalore but it enjoys a different kind of a climate but then bringing that concept if you can see this you know glass bricks and all that you know do you know how you see Krishna and Udupi it is the aesthetics part of it you see in small holes in Udupi if somebody has visited so that concept we gave but then we built a courtyard house here okay can the top from this I allow rain water to come into the house okay into the courtyard and it gets flushed away okay so every year they have this person I had designed it only for 90% green building and today he is my client is very happy he says it is 98% green green building and you know what I got stamping for that was a kingfisher bird started living in their house okay that was the most wonderful concept I got when I did this and then you can see the LED lights I have used here so they switch on only at 7.30, 7 o'clock in the evening the lights the whole building is lit so they don't need to use any other lights here apart from this this particular cascade which I've shown this was done for KLE school in which madam did the building I wish I had the slides there this was already prepared so this is for madam Aruna's building I did this she called me why don't you do the landscaping so then I said this is for a school if you can see I've used multiple colors so the children can get to no colors it's for the nursery children right and then I made them do the plants there so they can feel the plants and then water they can stand around here and the you know the some time to somewhere else so they can play in water the whole thing is I wanted the child to experience this so we have done a lot of landscape projects a lot of green this is an apartment where emphasis is given on landscaping. Okay, and then these are smaller houses, and these are villas and even the smaller houses have a lot of green playing at every level. Okay, and, and this is another house in dollars colony which is just about 3040 or 3050, you can see the light amplified here this is natural light coming from the sky. Okay, so this you can see the north light tapped here can you see in this corner where I'm showing. Okay, that north light have tapped inside the building that is why this area until the ground floor it is lit naturally. Now I'm very sure people are not going to ask me what is total internal reflection and you know where do you use you know all these optics which you are teaching now. So you guys can relate to where it is being applied right so you know lots of artificial, you know, so let's say there is some obstruction and you want to bring some light into your dark room now you know where how to use your physics concept thanks for helping me. And finally this is my last slide which is an auditorium which I did for about 500 or 600 people or for Wijia Bank on MG Road and you can see the optical fiber lighting used. These are LED lights and this is you know all these all are LED and optical fiber lighting okay and you can see the magic the theatrical effect. So you can be globally you know reaching out or you can be as close as to your heart in your house but architecture to do is with quality of life. Okay, what you want to do breathe the air do a breathing building, let the building breathe and the built environment around you. Thank you so much. Thanks Pam, thanks for that and like so you know I the take a ways for me is you know next time I'm going to enter any new building I'm going to you know observe all these, you know my new details maybe there is some learning hidden over there and now at least my student friends can relate to so whatever we are doing whether it is geography or history. So I don't know ma'am talked about history so history is important whether it is history right now whatever you are studying so one thing is you must know and whenever we talk about mathematical history or physics history. It's because of this precise reason that you must know the context why we are doing all of this so that's one. Second insight which I you know drew from maps this thing is see the climate change and sustainable lifestyle is going to be one of the most sort of the fields later on so whatever you do. You have to think from that futuristic angle as well so be whether it is biology whether it is even physics for that matter. So architectures cannot happen without engineering input as well so hey even if you're taking up engineering, so you have to have that thought process that hey tomorrow I have to you know be a part of this workforce, and hence I have my thought process should work in that line so thanks for you know showing it in the application ma'am and because once we see that being implemented somewhere. All of a sudden everything we study and whatever we are going through in the schools start you know making a lot of sense so thanks. So she could actually throw a little light on the engineering side of it because she was I told you she was in the structural. So just to enlighten my friend structural engineering is nothing but a specialization of civil engineering so if you today again there is a class system in engineering let me tell you ma'am this is my students must know this whenever they happen and I have lots of sleepless nights convincing my students to take up civil engineering it is not as glamorous as let's say computer science but I keep on saying till civilization exists civil engineering will exist so hence you know how can you think about you know such an important you know a field to be or some kind of a low caste or low class engineering so please don't have that kind of notions in your mind it's amazing it's an amazing field and yes I don't know ma'am can just throw some light on the structural engineering aspect of it. Yeah wonderful presentation Geetha and you know plants and buildings are so much complimentary you can't be without the plants and for that you design for that particular site and site will have some trees. We have the free hand to design around the tree instead of cutting a tree one tree contributes the you know oxygen equivalent to 10 ACs so you are cutting that and you are putting AC to your building so as you rightly said I forget your name. Geetha ma'am it's okay it's okay no worries at all. Okay the future lives in reuse, reuse, recycle even in architecture field you know it has to be green building and you know I was mentioning the Nobel prize of architect they save all the old buildings you know the apartments which get old many of the countries demolish that and build but they do a face lifting and structural stability is given that's why a great respect to structural engineers we dream but they will make it happen. You know all the structural engineers keep saying you do anything we'll make it happen you know whether this is possible or not they say do any design we will make it happen. See that important are the structural engineers and so it's all you know the mixture of all these things landscaping, structure and the climatology everything is important. Great. That's what I wanted to add here. Great great so now I think our students do realize this you know again this is coming up last session also multidisciplinary approach towards studies work was coming up. Today also you see you know you can't be a specialist without knowing other subjects as well. So as ma'am is saying that architect must also understand climatology must also understand nuances of structural engineering maybe so hence, all are you know intertwined together so that's how the that's what the take away from this discussion is so far yeah. So proceeding further ma'am again you know I will talk from the perspective of the students basically for example they are now in front of their computers and sitting all together for hours, you know so seven eight hours and while the school is going on when we are taking classes and they have their own other, you know, other engagements like music and other things. With that in context, do we have something related to ergonomics maybe what I have heard of, or you know how do we, you know, what should be the planning under the circumstances that going forward anyways now we are getting to know that since the vaccination for young people is a distant away is quite quite away. So this is going to be a norm. So the other day we talked about I care so has this particular field something to do with, let's say our management of this new lifestyle so would you be throwing some light on that man. Tulika madam can take it forward from here. Yeah, maybe. Yes, I personally feel that our spaces which we are have designed have to be multi purpose. We cannot have like what we were having one in an interior space suppose one this is a dining room this living room, but for a study space we have to have a multi purpose I kind of space so that we can arrange it likewise so that we can arrange it ergonomically to our set goals and conditions so that it can be used to the maximum functional. Okay, so I might so I will now you know, direct this question to you know architect data man that you know so some do's and don'ts of managing workplace, you know, facilitating work from home and for students, you know, for during online classes so that is that is what you know we will definitely look forward to. Yeah, yeah, this is important in terms of whenever you're sitting now you're in closed doors. Okay, kindly I would rather suggest that if you can sit near a window on your left hand side. Okay, because the window will have a lot of reflection if it is on the back so please have an open window so that it lets in some fresh air. Okay, so don't just sit in a very closed capsule and keep working and when you're possibly in when if you're interactive and you can keep your videos off and still can do only listening to the class keep pacing around. Keep pacing around. Please don't sit and listen to the class just have something which can allow you to warm up. Okay, and before I know I do appreciate some kids you know when just because they're from home, you know, they don't even if you had to go to school how we would go. Okay, you will take a bath you do all your things and very nice. You know uniform and do don't do away with that discipline. Okay, do all those courses all those choices you finish the day and then sit there you will feel fresh. Okay, that I would suggest whether you wear a uniform or not it does not matter but then you at least are fresh in your body. Okay, and just keep that and once this class session is done. Keep away your gadgets for a while, take to your outdoor like you could do some skipping or something like that physical exercise and come back. This is for the students and second thing is their backs are aching extremely bad because they're sitting long hours have a back support back support which is needed and I think that the doctors previously in the session they would have taught them a lot of you know glare glasses and all this. So I don't touch that, but that has to be taken care of. Okay, don't wear always these your plugs will do away sometimes listen directly to the class. That's what I think. Thanks ma'am thanks for also I appreciate that and students please take care so being close to a window and you know some ventilation is really yes. One little point window also helps you to gauge outside, gauge outside, see something far, seeing far is a rest for your eyes. The other day we discussed this one. Something far, that is a great rest for your eyes. Yeah, so other day Dr. Venkat suggested that you know we have to do 2020 rule so 20 minutes you know after every 20 minutes you just you know look off with the screen. Then look at 20 meters distance and then blink your eyes 20 times that was what was suggested. So thanks thanks for that input ma'am. Now coming back to again the profession per se so I would like to hear from architect Tulika ma'am that you know the normal understanding is you go to. So for the information of children here I'll tell you if you want to pursue architecture in India, there are around 400 plus colleges. And how do you get to those colleges. Now we'll talk about pan India level we also talk about let's say Karnataka level. So a pan India level you know those who are pursuing engineering they also have this option of writing the aptitude test for architecture which is conducted both by Jee main. That is there is a paper two for that you'll have to sit for see that's the importance of architecture that you'll have to appear for a separate test for it. So Jee main offer you paper to where you have to you know qualify that exam. And if you so once you qualify Jee main aptitude test, then you are you know eligible to get into all those colleges in a National Institute of Technology or other schools attached to it SPF or that matter school of planning and architecture in Delhi and other SPF baby. There you can get entry. If you want to get into it so two of the it is of architecture today so one is it root key which is like age old university one of the, the first engineering college in India. And the other one is IIT Kharagpur which also has you know very big architectural department. So these two it is offer architecture courses so you have to write Jee advanced architecture aptitude test, apart from you know writing Jee advanced first you have must you know clear Jee advanced. Once you clear Jee advanced then another aptitude test will be held for you and that aptitude test if you are able to pass and that aptitude what does this aptitude test to contain this has you know your aesthetics angle your geometry your mathematics your you know multiple perspective design and you know those things will be asked so you know this is one way so what did I talk about one is Jee main paper to for NITs and other places and other institutions government funded technical institutions Jee advanced for IITs and there is another very big exam called Nata. Yes so national architecture you know but sorry national aptitude test in architecture so which takes care of you know all the other famous or you know institutions in the country so again there will be a three hour test and thankfully for you like Jee main. Now Nata is also going to be twice a year so that's an added advantage so let's say if you do not you know do well in the first one you can always do well in the second one. And you know again mathematics and the prerequisite is but TCM so those who are those who have not taken mathematics they will not be able to pursue architecture so that's a prerequisite by friends so when you decide your 11th 12th course your you know your your stream. Please keep in mind that if you wish to pursue architecture you have to have mathematics because all the exams the prerequisite is you must be having a qualifying paper in PC and M and then you'll have to also you know write a separate entrance test. If you are able to qualify that aptitude test then you will be eligible to go for any of these undergrad studies now my question to architect Tulika ma'am is this that you know we are pretty much aware that okay after plus two there is a B arc five year B arc course. Now what is a typical growth profile so let's say I do B arc what do I do next what are all options are there for me so will I do will I be joining a job or ma'am you can you can throw some light on that. After your B arc you have a lot of you can join your way you've done your internship you can join with them or you can have your own setup now you can have your own startup you can start like we are what we are pursuing that we are trying to pursue students with a startup. So that they can continue that in that with the with their jobs also. Secondly, you can also go for your specialization with your master which maybe in India, India also has a lot of specializations like urban planning, like building engineering, they are different very fields now landscape, which you can go for according to your choice. I see. And, and your liking with you, you should realize where your 40 years after your B arc, your students should realize that this is my liking and this is my 40 and this is what I want to become. You know, you have to do, I would suggest students to do a lot of reading, a lot of what buildings are happening what are the architects doing abroad outside globally and what are the Indian architects doing and how they can give the best to the industry. I see. Okay, fair enough. So basically, you know, so ma'am is, you know, advising us to be in touch with some of the literature in the field. If you really wish to pursue though there is a master's course. So hence the next question is directed to I don't know ma'am, sorry, Geetha ma'am here is that ma'am, you know, so what all, you know, but you know, the streams are available in the post grad level maybe or maybe further there. And then, is there some kind of a hierarchy. I am not I'm asking this from an engineer's perspective because today in our country, there is a, you know, hypothetical or you know some wrong kind of a hierarchy is floating around because it's all driven by the economy. But, hence, in the architecture field as well do we have some kind of a specialization hierarchy that this is more soft after so that our students are also aware that okay this is the one field where lots of, you know, advancement is happening or, you know, I can pursue that. What I should say, Mr. Tushar, yeah, Mr. Tushar, what I would say is this architecture can have a diverse way of thinking, you know, because we can brand ourselves into anything but then today it is very important when we are doing architecture, that project management skills, construction management skills come into being because many architects do not have that knowledge because actually what some people are lucky like Madam Aruna who had her husband who was a structural engineer. So they get, you know, that vibrations faster and they do the right kind of building, you know, okay, but in some cases, we need to pursue engineering part of it so that we'll understand the building better and we can control it. But project management, how it happens is because we are like, you know, with the highest in the pyramid in this, say, construction world, then we have the vendors, then we have the construction civil people, then we have the AC consultants coming in, then the, you know, allied services, electrical plumbing. So it's like this, you know, we are, you know, just, you know, talking like this, like, you know, you would have the puppet show one is talking one is doing the work. So we'll have to pull all the reins and put them together and make it a building. So, when we're doing this, we, if we have the project management skills, okay, and the construction management skills, and then if the architect is equipped in the quality, because today, a house, see, supposing, say, let me tell you, Mr. Tushar, he calls himself a layman who isn't, but okay, but then he comes to us and says, build a house for him, okay. And he says, what's your budget, I ask him. Kind of, you know, he says, I mean, I do know, but then I think, ma'am, I can invest about maybe, say, 70 to 90, you know, one crore max, man, or he might say even less than that, okay, then says 50, 60, 70, then you know that budget is there and I said, that means every pie that he's earned is worthy the quality that we need to give him. Okay, that is what an architect does, because we are the civil engineers are here and we are specialized people. So we need to control the quality for him. Okay, that is he has money to spend but not to waste. Certainly not to waste. Okay, ensure quality and that quality checking comes only by project management and construction management skills. And as madam Tulika was telling the building construction, climatological study and all this in your curriculum whatever comes and the way I believe me mogul architecture, you know, we had go to Rajasthan, you know, you'll say a lot of, you know, there is a village where the water was conserved. And you know, it was very cool. All these places if you see there is a meaning of for water management over there, you know, so whatever is done, which is very related because nobody don't get water as it's very scarce. Okay, you cannot just do away with water like that. So, you know, everywhere it is concerned with the climate so it is a very beautiful subject if you take it very seriously. And that site you need to be a very serious person getting every other client is worthy of investment. So what I take away from this. Yeah, sorry. So whatever thing is I would like to tell you. Yeah, so please, please, sorry. I would like to touch upon because today it is a labor as I told you labor intensive, and we're not able to manage without inspection and all drone management is an in thing. So you can actually be it's a fun thing also for children now. Okay, they can work with fun, and I know experts who are doing this and they're attaching themselves with the architects and all that. So we manage the project for bigger companies. So you know, it can stay away from going to the site and still do the needful to people. So these are the areas we can actually. Great, so the takeaway is ma'am a BR person can move into let's say a project management field and top up his skill set there. And or let's say specialized fields like climatology or water management or even I think town planning will be one of them and regional planning and things like that. Once you are done with your be I just correct me if I'm wrong, you know, so these are the specialized areas where you can pick up one of these streams and then you know, you become masters of it. And maybe then, you know, you become professional in that particular field. So thanks for the yes ma'am you want to add add something on that. No, I do not want to add I would like Madam Arunath to add because she had an opportunity to work with one of the most vibrant architects and Mr. So a little input as to your experience and what you could give. Sure ma'am, please, please. And just to add, BV Doshi won that pretzel award have been telling in 2018. He's the only Indian to have won that. He has a good fortune of working with him and he is my spiritual guru I can say in architecture, you know, being in his office so that's what I'm saying working in an office for one year. It's good just to see he had few architects from Japan working in his office. So they represented that country when you go out and work in USA or if you are thinking of working anywhere out. You have to know your Indian architecture very well. So you have to know your vernacular architecture very well. And when you go there you represent your country also. And it is the essence of like Geetha ma'am was saying, you know, the courtyard is the essence of Indian, you know, small towns or even that can be used in our modern buildings. All that is mixed when you are working with other architects and we are working in other offices, they inspire you and you inspire them. If you know your architecture well. So what I'm taking away from your point ma'am is that, you know, you can go for complete your BR, you know, maybe work for a year or two in some firm. Learn and interact with multiple other architects, learn new concepts there and get inspired by someone who's already into the field. And then also you can decide on your stream of specialization and move further up. There's an intern here, sir, who's working with me. So I just brought her in so that she's actually in, she's a student still. You can take her experience. Why not? Please, please, please. It's Trishna Purnima and there is one Manjunath here. I think Trishna is here and Manjunath is here. You can get the feel of what this is. Yes, yes, yes. So hi, welcome Trishna and thanks for coming in and you know, you're on mute right now. So you have to unmute yourself. Hello sir. Hello, hello. Thank you Geetha ma'am for giving me an opportunity. So, yeah, right now as you're saying, like, yeah, we are also aware of many fields after going from here. But after working, I mean, after doing internship with Geetha ma'am and the way she guided us, yeah, it actually, I mean, it gives us a pretty much clear cut knowledge that where we can do. So even I feel that it is better to work in a firm for one to two years than decide in the field which you have to because there is a plenty of scope in architecture. You can go either in interior designing, landscape, urban designing, and if you go for foreign countries, you have plenty of other, you know, the fields such as aerospace designing and now furniture designing is under boom because everyone want a different kind of furniture and there is a lot of scope in architecture right now. Great, thanks. Thanks for your input, Trishna. So what we can do now ma'am, I think, you know, because anyways, we are nearing our, you know, finishing line. So what I would encourage so all the interns, please, you know, you please participate and you know, you might be able to, you know, give first hand answers to the queries which our students would be having. So I'd encourage all of you to, you know, participate in the Q&A session. So students now, if you have any question, I was seeing some of the students posting some queries here. So if you have any particular, you know, query regarding the field, please feel free to ask that we have three veterans here, we have lots of interns who are into the field already. And if you are choosing this field in couple of years time, then you will be doing the same internship, what these people are doing so they will they will give you the first hand information over here. So you please I encourage everyone to you know, start asking questions. Yes, anyone. So I have a question. Yeah, please introduce yourself first and then ask. My name is Sajiman. I have a question. So there are impossible structures that architects conceive of. Why do they like, for example, you have the Pandora stairs which are never ending. Why do architects conceive of such things and how do they. So, I'm not very clear on the question. I think you had the parimal parimal right who who's speaking. Yes, so you are talking about some pentostare or something right. So, I have no clue of this particular thing so maybe you can add some. So what exactly is the question, Pradyumna, can you repeat that so I could hear only pentostare something like that, or you can type it out so that we can, you know, we can. I typed it out. Meanwhile, any other person, you know, wants to ask any question related to architecture field. Please go ahead. Yeah, who's good. My name is Rohit. Okay, yes, go ahead. Sir, in the water, what will the teaching that course that five years course of architecture, what will the teacher. What will they teach. Okay, so what are the subjects you are basically, you know, asking. Ma'am Tulika ma'am, would you like to throw some light on the subjects which are being taught. Yes, you are as we have already discussed but we have told you that you have history of architecture. You have technical drawings, you have graphics, you have design, architectural design. You have building construction. So these five six courses go parallel at different levels in all the semesters. See, I can just add a little bit. Yeah, sorry. Please, please go ahead. And in the later semesters, these are the subjects are enriched with electives, which are like energy efficiency, or maybe estimation and costing specifications. And all those subjects are also added time that I am third, fourth semester, semester like that. And if you are in IIT, let's say I'll give you some brief from there. So let's say in our architecture department in IIT, what do they do is they also take electives from civil and mechanical engineering department. So they will study thermodynamics, they will study structural engineering, they will also study transportation and things like that. So, you know, so it's a multidisciplinary again. So in architecture, you have to again go for your, maybe there will be a subject on graphics as ma'am is saying, you know, computer graphics will be there. There is something called computer aided design will be there. So, you know, there will be, there is a course called, you know, product realization things related to that and all so multiple, you know, and there is a gamut of electives you can take, so that you can, you know, improve upon your your understanding and in a grip in the subject so this is typically the, and yes, in the first year mathematics is common so you have to anyway study mathematics also in the first year. I would like to touch upon the previous question of the Penrose stares which I think somebody spoke to. Yes, Pradyuman ma'am, he is in ninth grade in NPS education. Yeah, see, let me tell you, I would rather suggest Mr. Pradyuman, he's asked a very big question, Penrose stares, not many would have heard of it. See, it's the 90 degree turn it goes on and on and on. These are experiments which many architects do. Okay, what more can we do and what excellently we can do or what different can we do and all that. Okay, but I tell you what any aspect of design whatever you do. Okay, if a functional aspect is attached to it. Okay, then it makes sense to me personally to me, I do not exercise my buildings or something which does not cater to the function only for the aesthetics or the sake of experimenting on it I wouldn't do but I would never say Penrose stares is wrong but it should find utility in our buildings then it makes sense. Okay, so yes, so basically the utility aspect of architecture is also to be taken care of. I think that answers your query so there is another question. I'm not able just a minute guys, I'm not able to read your query. Yes, so I have some questions here in the, yes, so the next question which I can see ma'am is which are good coaching classes for Natta in Bangalore. So if I'll show you one slide and if you go to Natta's website, the first page in the brochure says no coaching center in the world can teach you the aesthetic sense. And I was also astonished to see that that you know that that was a statement in the brochure itself is very categorically says that if you are planning to go for a training to learn those thought processes which inspire you to become so it's as good as saying can I become a, you know, a big good artist by I don't know maybe that could be true by is to understand but I was surprised myself when I was doing my own research that the first page itself boldly it says that don't fall for any coaching and all if you have it in you it is an innate trait what they say. Now if it is it is very new then you will be able to do so you'll always be having that you know predisposition so you have to just explore that. Yes, a little bit of you know preparedness in terms of what kind of questions they ask and hence you can orient yourself. The only coaching you need maybe is for the subjects like physics and chemistry and mathematics to clear J advance and things like that. And then once you are there then probably you know your flair which you already have and some bit of orientation regarding you know the kind of questions they ask the perspectives and all those things can aid and you can clear that exam. So, I think, you know, that that will be and I would suggest if there are, I have heard of there are few institutions which are doing not, I can't vouch for them I can't I don't know the quality they deliver so hence, you know you can you can again go do a research and offline you can ask me I can tell you about the names where you can, you know, do further research on that. So that's taken and then the question is, is it possible for an engineer student to take up architecture at a later stage man that's a very interesting question. So let's say that is being asked by they just finished so good question they just finished so is it possible man I'm a I'm a mtech and we take mtech from it can I can I take up architecture, I don't think so after my engineering I will be able to do. So I have to repeat my process my dear friend so I might as for my understanding I might do a specialization and in maybe something related to for example climatology or water management and things like that I can still do, but I don't think I will be able to do full fledged architecture. And now though architecture, people have their own council and lots of, you know, so you have to register yourself to become an architect and I was astonished to know this is not true for engineers, at least as far as I know, but if you call yourself architecture without being an architect, it's a punishable offense. I was really surprised to see that. So none of the, you know, maybe other other professions also, you know, have similar this thing but as an engineer I know you know you can call yourself engineer, you know, no one cares. Without the registration of the council of architecture you cannot establish just like you have to be a registered practitioner for medical science doctor. Similarly, you have to register yourself or come to the council of architecture to be able to practice architecture also. So, hence in my opinion, once you're across that age group or you know, first of all your age will be a, you know, factor which which will kind of because you would like to pursue something in your own stream rather than changing in altogether. So hence yes you will not be an architect, but you can do the peripheral subjects I believe, where you know you can do some water management project management courses, or if you're an engineer you just discuss that you know architecture is also very intricately, what do you say, intertwined with engineering so you can't separate these two. So as an engineer itself you can, you know, contribute to the field of architecture. So I think, ma'am, anyone of you ma'am you want to add anything to it, please, please. So you can pursue interior design courses, which would give you a kind of a space planning, which you're looking for. You can still pursue on those, those kind of courses or maybe elective courses, which will help you further up your goal for being an architect. Right. So you know, so yes, Arunam ma'am, please. Another field is project management, you can sharpen the project management and also green architecture, which will be sustainable, building a sustainable architecture. Great, great. Thank you on these subjects. Great. So we'll take another two, three minutes ma'am, I hope you're not taking much of your time, so you know. I was asking here, in the chat box, why is it that Bangalore does not have skyscrapers when land can be conserved? Okay, spectacular skyscrapers and all that, okay. That's a really good question actually. I mean, actually, you know why I tell you, Bangalore was meant to have individual houses. Our mind was like that before. Okay. You ask a Bangalore, do you own a house? They'll say yes, do you own a flat? They say no. Our original Bangalorean, he would prefer a house. Okay, we're still bent on that because we have a syllabus climate. Climate of Bangalore is actually so pleasant. Okay, to have a nice little garden and a nice little house is the psychology what we have. Now with the intense, you know, software companies coming in and all that, okay. That is one of the reasons we have gone into multi-dwelling units like the apartments. Otherwise, I'm telling you, and the garden city, it's called a garden city, remember, it's a garden city. And the way we have grown in Bangalore is in concepted circles, not like Mumbai or any seacoast, where the growth is linear, but Bangalore grows like this. So, it makes more sense to have houses and scaled up towards the other side. As you go to the periphery, we can have tall buildings. Okay, so it works like that and that is Bangalore, mysoculture of having houses basically. Great. Thanks for that clarification. I hope Pai is Pradyuman only, I believe. So the next question was from Ondreela ma'am and she's asking, what are the challenges that architects face? So maybe you can throw some light on that, the challenges of architecture. All three are ladies, we have most challenges. I was holding myself from this question actually. So because I had this thing in my mind, being mothers and especially in a society like India where lots of families are still very conservative towards working women and all those. But now things are changing anyways. So what Ondreela is primarily asking is not from that perspective, but professional challenges maybe you people are facing. Or typically you are another general architect faces. Yeah, let's take it from Aruna madam, Tulika madam and then I take it. Yeah, always I feel knowledge is power. You know, when you are soundly, you are equipped with knowledge, you put your foot down. Especially when you go to site, you are one decision on the spot decision will have a pain reaction of other repercussions which you can visualize and give it particularly. I mean, I'm not very, I mean, I have not gender wise, no challenges. But if you are half baked, if you are not studied well, the drawings before you go to the site, your own detailed drawings, you have to be very soundly knowing all the things to give an instruction there. Your line is so powerful. When you draw a line on your drawing, it will be implemented there. So everything needs to be done responsibly. So this line I will be borrowing from you ma'am. So the line you draw is going to be implemented somewhere else. So guys, this is a great learning and deep. It's really deep. And you know, every line you draw, you have to draw it responsibly. So that's really, really great statement. Thanks for that ma'am. So coming to Tulika ma'am now. There are many responsibilities which you have towards your colleagues, the person, the people you are leading, you have to be a role icon to them. You have to understand them as well as make the project move forward. You have to sometimes make decisions which might not be comfortable. But yes, you have to think a lot. You have to be analytical. At the same time, you have to not necessarily gender-wise think that you are somewhere less or incapable. But yes, knowledge is definitely the most important which you should have as an architect in which you can surpass and beat all. Okay. Thanks. Thanks ma'am. Thanks. And now finally to Gita ma'am. Yeah, to sum it all about madam Aruna said and madam Tulika said, I would say knowledge is where we need to stand. Okay, when I said I wanted to lead the show, that's what I meant. Okay, when you are in some office, learn enough and be confident over there because you're guiding your people. Remember, if you guide them wrong, they go wrong. And then who's going to play, you know, pay the brunt of it, it is declined. Okay, money is lost. You are having shoulderings of money. Okay, the responsibility of money there. It is not a hypothetical problem. It is a real issue. Second, madam Tulika, what she was telling is the management per se gender does not have a problem. But what happens in a lady's, you know, there is something called and when it comes to architecture, it is a glamour based course. Yes, it is glamour as much as it is, it is very challenging. You cannot fool yourself at sight. Okay, then they'll turn you different. Okay, fit for that. No way it is as much associated your presentation skills are there but then your head about speaks a lot and it has to stand translate from paper to site. And then you should do justice to the client to the contractor to the vendor so you're balancing so many people so every line every inch of what you do matters. So you should be responsible in a very, very accountable manner. Yes. So thanks, ma'am. And I really we are, you know, you know, short our time limit so students those whose questions are related to the post grad level, you know, options we have we have discussed that, Pranit. So you can just revisit this, this thing what all options do you have in a post grad level for architecture. So with those words, ma'am, you will now wrap up the show. And yes, anyone is saying something. Okay, so now we are towards the end of the show. So as, you know, as parents as professionals and you know, someone who has been through all of this seen the world. Our children look forward to you to, you know, get those few words of wisdom and or advice, which they can always take along with them and you know, anytime during their journey throughout their life, these things can add so I would request each one of you to, you know, give some bit of, you know, some advice is piece of advice is or, you know, your guidance to, you know, as a parting message to all of them. So we can start with maybe Aruna ma'am first. Yeah, every project is a new learning be a learner throughout every project you know it's nothing you have done the 3040 site, it will not repeat. So it's a different experience, different challenges come with each project. So throughout the journey, you have to be a learner and go ahead. Great. So learning never stops. It is a continuous process. So please make sure that even if you become a teacher, you have to keep learning. That's what we believe and you know, so you that thanks thanks for those input. Yeah. So, ma'am Tullika Tullika ma'am can just, you know, sum up. Yeah. I would like you to all you guys to know more if you want to go towards the journey of architecture. No more read more collect as much as knowledge as possible. Before you step inside this industry with step inside the college so that you are confident and very much focused on becoming an architect. Sometimes it happens that some students just go with the wave and just one fill up the form go to the Nata and in the during the course they realize no they are not exactly this is not they want to do. It is just a request that look towards what what is happening around you. What are what what people are doing. Do you want to get inside the same them. Do you have those skills. Try to study yourself, then go towards it. Okay, so yes, I also keep adding to your knowledge guys and you know you have to be perfect in your subject matter that's what the message is from ma'am and final words from architect data ma'am. I would like to say that remember this a passion driven field, you should like the field parents can only guide you if they can recognize but then then there's no force in this. The minute you enter you should enjoy. Okay, and in your at all through what matters is learning all the wine and being sensitive as much as sensible. Okay, you'll have to be both to pursue architecture in the long run. Okay, so you'll have to be as much sensitive as much as sensible than the formula the whole format falls into place. So being sensitive and sensible is what you have by your choice starts with the passion and end of the day you have to deliver goods to the client. So it becomes a very practical aspect of it. So you'll have to balance all this and deliverance as much as passion and always address the client and this is a very, I mean, you know, people oriented subject, you know, you will learn a lot from so many people you come across. So that is very good experience and you should enjoy. So I think you know there are a few questions guys those who have still some questions related to the you know you can always address it to me. And if I will be able to sort it out from my level I will be able to do that I will forward you the queries answers or else I will forward it to the veterans who are here. So with those words and you know thanks again, I don't know ma'am so it was really pleasure to have you on this panel and lots of insights. So we you know we try to you know the experience and learning and knowledge you people are having. Again the intention or the objective of the sentiment connects is even 1% is transferred to our audience our children and we can expect a very bright future for them. So with those words, I thank Tulika ma'am for having spared some time and you know and thanks to Gita ma'am because you actually you know were instrumental in you know bringing lots of people off the field onto this panel. Yeah so I'm really thankful really thank that's the power of you know so you know that's the passion I can see and sense from all of you and the interns who took time and came on on on on board. So thanks a lot all of you all the students my message again will be let's keep learning let's keep extracting so you guys have the responsibility of extracting all the information from the previous generation. Our generation doesn't know that much we are still to be you know what you say we still to reach that level. So you are our immediate generation that is what we are talking to these people right now have lots and lots of knowledge. So our intention is we'll keep on doing and you know conducting these sessions so that. One second sir. Yeah, I would like to thank you personally for this opportunity for having given us to do something like contributors we have given some little thing to these young minds and we feel very honored having been done. No no ma'am pleasure is all mine because I also learned a lot many things so as Aruna ma'am was saying learning should go on and I also learned so many things the idea is plain and simple all these audience people who are sitting right now in front of the computers. Guys our only objective is that let's learn from our previous generation they have lots of you know many a times we take them for granted you know I'm not holier than now I treat my parents and maybe my great parents you know according my my grandfather my grandfather was a doctor but I never paid only when I heard the other doctors speak the other day I was relating to whatever he was suggesting. So what I'm just trying to tell you here is our previous generations do have a lot of knowledge be parents don't take your parents for granted. And you know extract as much information from them as you can because your world is going to be more challenging and you know full of all these bigger challenges compared to what me our generation. And our previous generation had so with those words I hope everybody is safe. You stay secure at your home don't venture out come what may the times are really tough. We have to sail through and these these events are only to you know distract you from such negative negativity from all of that. Another objective is that as well so we spent some good quality one and a half hours understanding different aspects of life because this is going to pass with those words. Thanks a lot Aruna ma'am Tulika ma'am and Geeta ma'am and all the students and parents. Thank you very much. Thanks ma'am thanks for your time.