 So Fruits basket, I got to take you back to when I ran the RIT anime club from around 2001 or around 2005 because when we were at the RIT anime club an anime came out There was an adaptation of a manga and that anime was called fruits basket So I knew fruits basket at the time was a a shoujo manga. Yep B was ridiculously popular like like Actually from what I heard it was like one of the best-selling mongas Maybe the best selling manga at least at some point. Maybe still that in the US ever You can look that up. I guess and the anime adaptation of it I knew at the time was somehow flawed or something now I have learned a little bit more information about it and that is yes The fruits basket manga is still you know what it was It was like a late 90s to early 2000s manga, right and the what exactly people were mad about with the original anime Which I never watched even one episode of either I watched the anime any art of the anime or read any of the manga all I knew about the story was it involves some girl and some Zodiac stuff and it was so popular. Oh, well also I knew that there's non-threatening boys who turn into animals if they get hugged I didn't know that I knew that till just now and I had to often until just now when I watch it I know enough about it because rowing RIT anime. I had like Bisset like if the punchline to a joke was fruits basket something something The anime club would lose their shit because it was so popular anyway So it was wrong with the original anime from what I've heard from people is that it ended too soon And did not cover the full like it was faithful to the manga up to a point Yep, and then I guess they got ahead of things or something, you know, and they had to end it too soon But be not only good Scott the manga ran from 98 to 2006 and that anime ran from 2001 to 2001 Right the not only anime end too soon and not cover everything But also because the anime itself had to have an ending when they wrapped it up or whatever They changed something in the story that was significant involving certain characters Such that even if they did pick up with more seasons It would have been literally impossible for them to continue with the manga's plot because they diverted They basically took like a 90 degree turn at some point, right? So that was that that's something I didn't know because that's what I have been told so Fruits basket got a new anime that this season literally just now they made a new fruits basket anime I assume for some anniversary of fruits basket. It is a remastering HD remake of the old anime only it is supposedly going to stick to the manga and Possibly go through the entire plot of the manga all the way to the end maybe yep, which they could cancel at any time Right, but who knows yeah, but that's interesting because having not known about that swerve and having not realized how long fruits basket was The what I'd heard so far is that the new anime is just the old anime like Exactly well because the old anime up to the point that we've seen I've seen I think three or four episodes Maybe four because that was all that was on when I watched that was all that was out when I watched it is Basically the we didn't hit the swerve point yet Yep So the new anime is the old anime because the old anime was the manga the new anime is also the manga and The old and we're not at the point where the old anime swerves so at this only few episodes in All of them are identical. The new one is just obviously 16 by 9 and better drawn So what I don't understand based on what I've watched so far. I mean there's only one like so popular no What I don't understand is why is it called fruits basket? Fruit at what point is there a basket? I as the same thing because I like fruits and I'm okay with baskets Especially if they're cornucopia's I love cornucopia's but I don't have that counts as a basket really It doesn't have a handle doesn't need a handle to be a basket Yeah, there's no fruits or baskets whatsoever anywhere fruit I don't even know if it's like an analogy or a metaphor for something I don't think it is. I think it's given a fucking random name. I think it was just cool sounding English name That's what I think it is. What's it about? So it is about a Girl and I thought so before I watched this all I knew is it's about a girl who is homeless and going to school I didn't know that till I watched it living in a tent Accidentally meets a bunch of non-threatening boys who turn into zodiac animals if she hugs them if anyone if any girl I know them that kind of is the plot. Yes, that literally is the plot Yep, so this girl basically like family circumstances because her mom died and right She's living with grandpa and grandpa because basically her family died in some it was an accident car accident or something So dad died of like an illness and then mom raised her on her own get the impression mom Meant well and was a good person, but was not educated and might have been a delinquent baby I don't know but anyway mom dies has to live with grandpa grandpa at the funeral. They decide who's gonna take her I was something that happens in bunny drop. Yeah, where they decide who's gonna take which you know The family gets together and decides who's gonna take the orphaned child Yep, grandpa like has to leave his house because some renovations are going on She made a vow to like take care of herself Grandpa's like hey, I'm renovating the house. We're living in Can you like go find a friend to live with you know, I have to go live in a tiny place I can't afford a big place Right, but I own the house. So once the renovations are done. We can move back So she doesn't find a friend to go live with she just lives in a tent in the woods Yep, and somehow makes it work kind of well She's only been living in the tent a little while. Yeah, then a landslide immediately destroys the tent Yep, cuz she's just like she doesn't know what she's doing. No, so she ends up accidentally moving That's pretty good considering the landslide, but I mean we got fancy tents like I could live out of that tent I know where she showers though at school. I assume I guess so She accidentally moves in with all these boys and Discovery's in me. I do Unbeknownst to her the land she put the tent on belongs to this family and So she encounters them in the woods and they're like, what is that person doing in our woods? She's like I live nearby One of them like we own all these woods and there's no houses in it, right? Yeah, they're like what she's like got one of them as a classmate and knows who she is and he's the hot boy in school Yeah, so That's sort of like, you know that connection there and they end up being nice and saying we live in this giant old Style Japanese house that has sliding doors like a samurai lives here because we're an ancient mystical family Yep, why don't you come live with us? And then that's the setup and then not too much happens after that in the episodes I've seen yep So the one thing I will say I'll say the things that I like about the show before we get into how I don't really think I need to watch any more of it is that one The trick the secret she figures it out instantly. That's good And there's like oh shit. I guess she knows we're all magical Will you keep our secret cool like all the magic stuff just starts happening immediately, right? Well, this is host this is it's a lot like Utana has the story of like, you know the prince and What's it called? What the duals, you know, princess tutu. Oh, yeah princess tutu also has like a fantasy a Fairy tale that's sort of you know, but I like it when a show is like right away like okay everything set up now The plot's gonna do basket has the fairy tale story of why is the cat not a member of the zodiac? No, true. Yeah, that's the that's the long-term mystery, right? And there's the one character who transforms into a cat. They're really angry dude. Yeah, right Who's sort of like he's in the family, but he's not he's like, you know He's like not part of the zodiac, but he still transforms into a cat if he's hugged and it's the conflict between him And the rest of the family well him and the rest of the family mostly the rat guy mostly the rat main guy Right who is right and then the girls you have this triangle situation going on, right? Because the girl I likes the main guy more not the super annoying cat guy Yeah, but she wants to be friends with a cat but fairy tale wise She's all about the cat Right and she has some sort of connection to the cat in the terms of the fairy tale But these two people who are somehow cursed You know, it seems like the their backwards which animal is which so I guess there's some tension of which one is she gonna end up with If any are they gay here? They're gonna get with each other, right? There's a lot to chew on for the fanfic writers. Yep. So The other thing I appreciate is that once it once you learn as the character knows many ships will sail If y'all hug what if a gift a member of the quote opposite sex hugs any of these boys They instantly turn into there are girls in the family and if they get hugged by boy by men presumably They would turn into the animal that they are from yeah, and we've only we're only a few episodes in we've only met Few characters like the dog the rat the cat So we know there's a whole zodiac which has how many animals 12. Yeah, there's gonna be way more characters in this family Dragon to accommodate all the you know, I think that the mysterious one who is behind you don't see them Yeah, it was like behind a sheet or something behind a door They're like oh we have to go consult the person for fit for rulings, right? And there's like a head member of the family. Yeah, and they talk to them like through a door You hear the voice but you don't see the character And then you know, they're like giving out the orders I presume that that's the dragon head of family person and they can't disobey them Yep, but what I appreciate is that once she learns she can do this they get transformed constantly Yeah, she'd like she even does it on purpose to stop a fight Like I like it when a character discovers a magic thing and just uses it all the time whenever it's practical Yeah, there's a little bit of the Superman thing going on because they're trying to hide it at school and The boy got a bad reputation at school because girls asked him out and then he wouldn't let them hug him He would like run away and it's not because he is a jerk It's just because he couldn't be hugged because they find out they did try to hide it right like Superman Try to hide with a secret identity and sometimes you know there's that tension of is it gonna get leaked and there's a few times when they had to transform at school because they got hugged and By some luck sometimes unbelievable luck. Nobody saw or whatever, right? So so here's the problems with the see if that gets that gets out The problem with the show is that it is not the year 2001 and it is in fact the year 2019 because if this was if fruit plastic had never existed before and this anime just came out What I would say about it is this is the most generic like basic ass Trope show Joe with non-threatening boys the world has ever seen it is just take Generic show Joe tropes like the mysterious like everything stick them all together into a show and just follow the formula So far at least yeah, so far at least I heard from people that later in the show it gets dark Yeah, it's it's definitely hinting at dark secrets in the family because The show is not like it's not one of those cases where like it's bad wait till it's good gets good Yeah, it's sort of like it's I and it supposedly gets real good It's like maybe if I you know like it's not off the queue now. I would watch more I enjoy watching I'm not gonna run out to watch it But I'm also not gonna run away from it because I'm not as curious as I am about fancy lala's dinosaurs Yeah, it's like right under that in terms of curiosity about what the darkness is That's a good place to put it like I do want to know more about the deal and I do like the characters But it is just such a character are definitely more interesting than the characters and a lot of other anime I don't care about them at all. Yep, and I imagine as I do care about like the drama of the cat guy Yeah, getting living and not being in the family, but I also I like the two delinquent girls She's friends with and I also do Those are the best characters. Yeah, right side characters always the best the like dark knife wielding one Yes, I like no question the best like you could watch the show just for them. She has two friends at school And we're like these super powered awesome like outcast I guess they would be if it was an American show that would be like two goth girls or something Yeah, but they're in Japanese school. So they're all wearing uniforms. But yeah, they're they're like dark serious powerful They get picked on but then they get revenge and the mean popular girls run away Yeah, the mean popular girls are literally just an anatomy squad like straight up. Yes, they are clearly you could just put an anatomy Right in there But yeah, like I think I might watch some more episodes not kind of might just like watch it at some point Like it's a good show. I might watch as a secondary show like whenever I'm bored Yeah, I think what it comes down to really is is how far is it gonna go if it's gonna cover? 23 volumes of manga that ran from 1998 to 2006 right that makes me a more likely to watch because I know I'll get the whole deal But also I know it ends but also less likely to watch because there's so many episodes It depends on how fast it was if it cuts short then I'm more likely to watch because less episodes But less likely to watch because so as you got this sort of thing going on I don't know. Yeah, it's tricky there because I've generally been not watching things like Game of Thrones I probably won't even watch anymore of until it's done done I never watch any Game of Thrones, and I probably never will I really like the first season like it was really good Really good, and then the end of the first season killed the only character one of the only characters I liked and then season two was one. It's kind of surprising who dies actually, okay? The main guy basically. Yeah, it's like up man. Not just coming up episode four spikes dead and then episode five Yeah, but it's just more characters though, but then episode five is just like the rest of the crew It's basically a really good way to run a TV show because then you can just like, you know Get rid of actors get new ones. You know, they're constantly going in and out You don't have to give someone like a big long-ass contract. Yeah, you like a soap opera situation, right? So I mean that's a great story for TV But not for a movie where you have to pay the fancy actor a zillion dollars and they're in the movie for ten minutes Yep, but I get like especially like I would not have even read the first book of the Wheel of Time if it hadn't been done For a long time. That's true. So I wouldn't have picked it if it hadn't been done Yeah So the fact that the manga is done gives me hope that this might be a show I watch it depends on how Many episodes it will take to tell that story and is that story thick and media enough to where all those episodes will be worth watching Yeah, it also depends I'm gonna try to find out how many episodes it takes to get to the dark stuff if it's a long number of episodes Then I might not go if it's fine But if it starts getting dark and like episode 15 or less I might be like ooh Yep, but if it's gonna be 20 more episodes of just the school drama and the house drama No, maybe there's a way to like summarize that and skip. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah so yeah, it's a serviceable show and Now that we know the story of like why the old anime needed to be remade and they couldn't just like continue it It does make sense that the show is being remade and it is definitely like a very direct look at Late 90s early 2000s show Joe fandom Yeah, if you are a fruits basket fan, you're probably gonna say we're wrong about a bunch of stuff But also, yeah probably excited about fruits basket And I imagine you haven't read it or watched it in quite a while now you can go back into it good This is great for you. Yeah, and if you're not a fruits basket fan, you never read it or watch it It was a significant thing. This is your chance to see what the deal was You can watch some number of episodes even if you don't watch all the episodes. Yep This has been geek nights with rim and scots special Thanks to DJ pretzel for the opening music cat Lee for web design and brand okay