 Next question is from Jalen s4. I am doing three full-body workouts per week and looking to develop larger lats What three exercises would you recommend to best hit them in each workout? Oh, yeah, you know a while ago I've always had a relatively strong back. I could row a lot I could deadlift a lot. I never skimped on back workouts even from the early days of working out loved it always did But I always focused more and I know why this this happened I was influenced by the the reigning mr. Olympia at the time was just Dorian Yates. I focused much more on rows For my back exercises than I did for you know with pull-ups or pull-downs So I did lots of rows Dorian Yates for those you don't know was The first mass monster and bodybuilding and one of his exercises that would always get you know put in the magazines Was his supinated grip barbell row and then you'd like to do a hammer strength Isle row right and so he did lots of rows. That's what I did and I remember as a 20-something year old I'd gotten real lean went to gold and there was this female competitor that was there that every once why I talked to and Kind of like your story Adam I asked her to to break my physique down and she said and I always thought my back was a strength like oh now My back is total strength in my body and she goes you've got good depth to your back She's got you've got really weak lats. You need better lats which like hit me right in my heart, right? So I'm like okay. I'm going to get good at pull-ups my lats responded so well to doing Frequent frequent pull-ups. I can't think of a better exercise that develops the lats the wings of the back Like there's nothing like a wide grip especially and all grips and weighted And not being afraid of doing singles doubles and triples on that like a strength That was a big difference for me because I did pull-ups for a long time But I was all it was always, you know, how many can I get to like I was always trying to progress 10 pull-ups in 15 then 20 and then I think I got up towards my peak when I was doing like 30 pull-ups like before a workout That was a big deal to me when when I saw the biggest change in my lats from pull-ups was when I stopped trying to chase How many reps I could do and I started seeing how much weight I could pull and I started doing singles doubles and triples of Pull-ups that is what really helped my lats The other thing that blew my lats up was snatch grip deadlifts. Oh, yeah I was gonna bring that up. That's why we're talking about the wide grip with pull-ups and then wide grip with the Love that first of all and this is this goes back I don't know maybe six months or so ago when we were kind of having this debate back and forth that you know There's this idea that Deadlifts are not a back exercise, you know, there's I know there was some fitness people that were posting stuff Around that. It's not a back exercise. It's a it's a leg exercise hamstring and glute more than anything else And it's it's totally stupid because the amount that you can load on a deadlift There's just show me what other exercise that you can load load that much weight And even if the back is in a isometric position The amount of stimulus that you get from that much load on the back Just blows the backup because your back is not used to doing that If you've never if you've never deadlifted two three four hundred pounds before and you put that on the bar and you deadlift Your back is going to blow up just like mine did and it was something that I neglected for many years And I did all the pull-ups the lat pull-downs the rows everything you're saying the biggest change I saw in my back was purely getting in a deadlifting more And then when I got into variations of the deadlift like the snatch grip was when it took it to a whole another level another good exercise for the lats that I would sometimes use At the beginning of my workout just to get me connected to my lats so I could start to feel them and all my back exercises Was a dumbbell pullover? Dumbbell pullover is a lat isolation exercise, so it's not a great mass builder But if you do it at the beginning of your workout get a nice pump and feel and connection to your lats get a good stretch Then when you go do your other back exercises It's easier to connect now You can start to feel the lats and what they're doing and you may find that you'll develop or connect to your lats more on all Your back exercises. Yeah I liked one too that not a lot of people think to do which is as you're doing a single arm lat pull down to add Rotation to that and that's just something that me doing You know a shoulder press it emulates that but in reverse, but now we're getting totally different stimulus to your lats