 If you can have some more comments, we'll read some more comments after this first interview. He's the CEO. He goes by the name CEO and he's the CEO of VP. Safi Kabisa, welcome. It's your first time here. But you've been in the music industry for quite a long time. Yes, from that time I recorded my first song because it's like eight years now. Like eight years in the industry. I'm just going to start with this. What have you learned so far from the industry? Because it's been changing. We've been playing old school music all day. But now kuna pia gengitone nene kwa kiraizu. On the lyric content. So what have you learned from all those years in the industry? The lesson you now get, kume kwa na revolution kwa industry. There used to be those days in the back. I was a huge fan of nonene. I was a huge fan of joakali ken rezea wa seote. And then you find that during that period sana sana, ilikuwa wa sewa lu kuna tegemea sana TV na radio, dio mzikiya ko ifikiye wa sana, ifikiye maa sesu konje. But then this revolution mekampaka last year kuana yo time wa toki complain maa naija and what. So I'm a boy. Like a music. So I'm a boy when yo mekampaka ethics. Like my friend Rezyu say maa, nika moa lifiniya reset but in the industry. Waka find a new avenue. Yes, YouTube was there, but una pata musei palemita ani hakiwa getu ilikuwa hard sana in the YouTube kuna kutafuta. But then waka kama na content na bamba wa se wa muta. Wana bonga lu gaya, una cheki. So in a video musei atafute ataka ni kakumi bipale kaba nusikiya se henda atafute o boys pale. So kuna kata space wa mefunguwa, kuna kare set button wa lifaniya waka faniya uma inapenda imu ziki sana. So which is somehow a good theme. We might differ about content na lu gaya but then that's the language they know. Ion de vitu wana interact na umta anizon de vitu wana sayema na izon de vitu in a bamba wa se. Ndi wana wakona ma fans. Kama inge kuwa appealing ko wa se. Angi kuwa na gonga miita kuwa YouTube pale. So kuna yu avenue ame leta richa I think is a good thing. So basically gangiton and every gangiton artist out there ame open up that avenue. Ya kwenyasha people you can search for music online. So hopefully entertain as a streaming platforms as well. In oto anza kupata revenue. With regard to revenue you've been in the industry for eight years. People are complaining. It's not just about you know ati play kei kwa sababu wato na play too much Niger. Also another conversation in the industry na artist wanda nsebaga doi kuapi. What do you think about that? About doi waze kaw julika ni ni had kumek Kujulika na jana? Yes kaw julika ni ni had kumek any revenue because kuna streaming revenue online sindio. Kuna kumek doi through his channels, YouTube and downloads na skiza na izo vitu zote. Kuna royalties from kuchese wangoma kua media stations and then kuna shows and then kuna merchandise. So unapata izo vitu zote zikopek doi kujulika na. If more people know you then they will download your music. They will watch your music. Ako woseti kuna mchwa mefungia pesa mahali. Ni artist lazimo aji kakamua. Ya ina bidi kujikakamua lakini piya badu adat kuna piya watu kakanyaga ki asi lakini ina bidi wos kumek. Bidi na oniki. Bidi iski. Atome na kanyaga ita fika point ya ni uta panika katsunami uta pitanaya ita bidi aku aku ita maku aku funguli avenues sababu atawana wasewa na kudimanda nje. So bidi na kutengeneza at least ground power. Vitu zi sikue different kua ground kuna julika na zana kwa ni ni kua ground ni different. Kua ground ni different. Kuka underground wasewa ta kusaka. Wasewa ta kutafuta. Kwa woseti neneza false image online. Kwanza fanyikazi on the ground alafu do build up your PR vizuri online. So uki wa fosi online make sure kua ground PR aku neneza itu asho wu jaze sio ni celeb kua instant neneza zingine lakini uki itu asho kua promota apatiku. Mekupata. Spaking of hard work na kudzeka kamawa you also have a bachelor's in music and you, a music teacher. Let's talk about that for a minute. What do you teach exactly in instrument how many vocals. Everything across the board I do I train instruments. I teach music theory. I do choral training. All that. Everything basically in music sababu. In terms of vocals We've had a hard situation Mke mwadi kwa mwadi mwadi mwadi kwa mwadi. Ngimia na waizigi e mwadi. There is a nice way to tell someone. Let's say I'm with you and you are training me. I am there la la la la. But then, you're like eh have to make three sessions. Unazana hi ambia,zi. Unazana kumusho maze. Ta utia huwa ina itaji kazi za hindi ari. Okay. Almost everyone can sing, but it depends on what you are singing. First you should know your voice. Kutuene stylega, niya songi. Kwa, unahcha kimsekami hamizi, aza kwenwa kwamakama ya Kris Brown, Soutya kwa hevezi. May voice kuna... Nauxainbama mo nanaf��ikan. I know my voice. Kenoha ni naisainba only R&D, lafu wala ni naisainba only African. True, it can be all the way. A laf kuna pio we nneizei in back troops. Across? Kuna we nya kuna vocal range poor, kuna we ni sautya wa kulitya wiko pua ngeza, kua ngeza vari, but most people na pata, kuna specific voice, kuna sautya ku we ni neneza blende nha specific But�o ni ni kawku e lisi weni Chris Brown na kikuza affanya gengeto na tom boy. Eeeh, puwa. Anna za pito na kina epic kwa chat. Ujue tu stile ya a ko, ujue tu stile ya a ko? Ujue tu voise ya ako in afitu api. Yes, you see force. No, it's nice, it's now back to your career. I've been in the industry for eight years. I've been in a few collaborations, but I don't know if I can make it. In a come? In a come. Futuring, Ken Rezi. Yes. I don't know if I can make it. Ken Rezi? And he disappeared? Yeah, Rezi is the one who has a lot of ideas, but I don't know if I can make it. I don't know if I can make it. I don't know if I can make it. I don't know if I can make it. I don't know if I can make it. So... You are ready? Yes. I embrace myself? Yes, I am ready. I want to make it. Rezi is the one who has a lot of ideas, but I don't know if I can make it. I don't know if I can make it. I don't know if I can make it since high school. And because of that, I don't know if I can make it. I don't know if I can make it. I want to make it. Make it. If you remember back at home, So, adikunad using boys wango flani akani onye shamaze, wei nye wu me kuatru to your dream. Nini msa ini apple, nika se ma story eka inrezi ni ni ni ni. So, wene, limpada ni kumchapia wene mi nifanoa kina, ya, wene nili kusho bidi. Misa kiwa na bidi ya kuhu. Ina bidi sa zingini anaku, anaku piga kajekumali anawaaza, kisha unasongo ki handa na ongezea bidi. So, ya li checki yo effort nini mtu mi amangoma zango, zileze ko YouTube, aka checki epe aka onaka zinadu, aka se ma... ai nango riku dungo omas, aka ngu siya po vasmo jamu otosa. Kali sana, kali sana. Now, in terms of content creation, before we premiere in a confitering, I can raise you by CEO. There's another song you did. I found it really interesting. Coconut. Oh. Ya, ya, uli kwa shumoga. Kuna bila umiji, nice atta kwa yo video. Kuliko kuna ndaji yasiku. Okay. Kuna checki mi, first of all, mufanya ngaumana, venye na feel. So, yo time ni ka get to, kuliko na ma story to. So, mi ni kanga li iki itu. Sinaiza at least, ya nika ni nice to, venye tu na sema li ni nice to, nika muwani, nika ni... Opa chiki. Mziki ni kujibamba. And then, as much as Pia ni kumashil, the first reason, kwa ni kukwamziki ni kujibamba. Ya, ni kujibamba. Kuhafan on it, ya. Ya, kuhafan. So, now in terms of that content creation, and that vibe creation as well. Onona, iniki tu ina laksa izi kwa, the gangaton. Ndi owa na tufanya big service, by putting Kenyan music back in the market. But now, you know, in terms of dirty lyrics, let's just be honest. Are they, aotaki kukwa more creative, na kujibamba na music, na na naji? I think ina nda, sana piyana edge, edge amse. Ndakuru di shabak, una kumuka weka mu, leo ni kukwa keja, weka, mizongu mazili kuwaji. Una tiki edge amse, kuna edge flanim sea kiwa, kuna asatene wea, ana fikiria. Nezode vitu zina, zina mnais, na iikua appealing to watu edge grupe ake. As you grow, uta notice, when you wata grow, wata achata na kuhimbais. Ya. I think part of it is growth. So creativity, ina nda na na eio line, vitu na fikiria, sana na vitu zina, na iis. Eio stage ya life, e nyewa. Mwale mu, you're very insightful. I never thought about it like that. Umeku wikiria, reishke. I just thought ni, omitutu ame boy gana, zitu kuwani kezi. Reishke zizu, relix. Ok, kuna wile, akinana ni no, ilkua na tizi, chini sana. Ya, iilkua na tizi, reishke zizu, reishke zizu, reishke zizu, reishke. Ya. Iipera kuwanara champion, matches trainer, chini, часть Coach и rollsk Io. Ya. Rekso fiikqRT mi na zo, wile upreig se, alzia kleto, wile upreig se, aikano niud Crushegi za pandiya Tift. ya na ua na sigana, kuna wumeto, kuna finha zapinha, ama ua ii naa tak odi, aikana na angirra. You need to persuade people of other languages to distribute tickets. This is MY name. The torpedo audience jump. On the other hand, Kwa 30 each one of you cannot relate to their contents. Laki ini, hindi lugaja una, hile makitiya woo, infaktu onea whese sana kwa yo, koa targeti ya wana dai. A undi, a undi in goma waze apa na. Nia vidzana ya un taga do. Ja yadazkize rumba. Ha ha ha ha ha haa haa. Ye Buddha, Buddha, Buddha. Ulauna wa rumba kwa yarni piwa na tuwana kwa isaiki tuchiele. If you really don't relate with it, then you're not the target. I like that, and on that note we're about to premiere your song, Fitchering Creek, I can raise it in a come. But we also had a question for the day before we conclude. Why do you think most of the Kenyan youth are unemployed? I think mostly we're well down to system and cover. I think we're well down to system and cover. So we find out that the problem is that most of the youth can't make it. There's a unit of purpose, and I lay with struggles. If you're lucky, you can make it, you can find a hassle. We can't say we're well down to system, but we're well down to system. So mostly system, we check it, and I advise that the situation will be bad, or even better, bad things will be the case, for the youth to go to the market, and if they had provided you with an opportunity, then you can't live in that state because you can just go to the market. So I hope you're watching this, so jobs can be the problem. Infact these are people who also have businesses. So I think the system we will be in is that that when the cost is high, Ukiwa na biz, tu seime una uza maiai, umeya mua sasa wewe ni hasla kabisa, wezi ka home, okamua uuse tipa leke kibanda uze maiai na maa smoki. Una cheki wasewengi wana pita, wona wana ini market, kumbe awa se wana tembe awa kienda kibaruwa, juwana save fair, wata toa pido ya kubai maiai na maa smoki. Una gate, kamakuna do ina circulet pwa kwa ekonomi, ina kwa hard ata kufanya business na wana cheki wena toa na frustret zile business kubwa. So imagine you lem se ya kwa apachini, okanga leya statistics, wana ambiwa sms mob, how many percent, siko nae de accurate figure, but a very big percent of sms zile biesha rando gondogo zina fail ina year or two time wamae anza kwanini. Hala kwa wana wana uuse waka lezi, misia meji tuma kata futa capitala kachu kualon ma deni anzi shebe asyara, ekonomi na nyonga bizi ake kisha na baki bila, na baki na deni kishuna muita lezi. Sipwa ukimeki amu kifani kiwa elewa strugglesa wasewengine. Yes. Shaskia, shaskia. Nakombiwa, nakombiwa mualimwa. I told you he's the CEO, he's very insightful, love you p. Now this is his brand new song featuring Ken Rizi in Nakomb.