 First time I saw a burning wheel, I was at a game shop in Rockville, Maryland. And I was like, what's this? And the guy said, that's the hardest role-playing game anyone's ever written. Don't buy that. And so I was kind of infatuated with it for a while and eventually bought it and couldn't understand it. And then gold came out and I understood that and I was like, I'm going to go to the con because they'll actually find someone to run it for me. I had so many years ago, I don't remember, I think I just stumbled across it and found it. I was playing D&D at the time. I tell you what. So I was playing D&D at the time. I got Burning Wheel Classic, introduced my group to it. That group broke up. I don't play with those guys anymore, got a new group and it's been Burning Wheel ever since. So I think I found it on the internet or something like that or review or something. I stumbled on it but it's changed the way I play games. I was in Boston and starting to get back into role playing games after about a 20 year hiatus. And I had a lot of ideas about how games would be better if we could do games that were about stories. I think everybody in role playing games has thought that at one time or another. I found, through the magic of the internet, a group of people that call themselves the story of games, Boston. And I went and started hanging out with them and discovered that for the past 6 or 10 years people have been creating games of just the kind I'd always wanted to see. That was really cool, except all my dreams of inventing the perfect story game. Well, they'd already been done already. I'd wanted to create the Jane Austen role playing game but I'm not so sure it's necessary anymore. I found Burning Wheel way back in the classic hero when Ken Hite did a review and then I tracked it down. It was less hard than you think because I'm pretty close to New York. I found out about Burning Wheel when Christian invited me to play in his game. So I first heard of Burning Wheel at one of the Ubercons locally here where I saw a strange young man very excitedly trying to push this game that didn't look very good to me to be honest. So, somewhere along the line I actually re-fell in the same circles and then I started hanging out with them more and more and we just really sort of took over from there and we've been gaming together pretty much ever since 2005 or so. We have a great time all the time. It's really good here. So play Burning Wheel. It's lots of fun. Hi there. My name is Wilhelm Fitzpatrick and I first discovered Burning Wheel in some point in the early 2000s. This strange review popped up on RPGNet about this odd little fantasy game that came in two separate books and it used, you wrote down your actions that you're going to do ahead of time and then compared them and I was like, that's like plotted movement from ancient war games. Surely this technology is gone by the wayside but this person was selling these books for only $15. That was just crazy even if it was a totally sucky game. How could you go wrong for $15? So I ordered it and these two little books show up and another friend of mine had ordered it and I was like, I'm going to take it to this local meetup that we were doing at the time in Seattle and I'm going to run it for whoever wants to play it and we played this demo scenario that Luke had online called Von Goten's Predicament which was all about there's an orc, no there's a knight on top of a house and the house is full of works and if you come near they're going to kill you but you just can't let him die and we had a great time with it and I ran a campaign of it and I got to know Luke and came out to New York City a couple years later and he showed me this crazy thing called the Monster Burner that explained how you could totally tear down all the stats in the game and build anything you wanted and I've been riding the wave ever since. Hi, I'm Michael S. Miller and I first encountered Mouse Guard in, not Mouse Guard, Burning Wheel in February of 2002 when Luke Crane was at a tiny little table in a back breakfast nook that of a embassy suite in New Jersey and the convent, the hotel staff in order to save on electricity, there were gamers, what did they really need like lights for so all the lights were down to half and he's doing these demos of this brand new fantasy game system and I'm a bit of a geek about trying to learn new and different games and so my cousin and I who are at the convention are like hey we'll give this thing a shot it could be fun and he hands out these sheets with the tiniest writing imaginable in this half light condition is there's everything you need to know alright you're an orc you know he's an orc and you're a guy. I think I first heard about Burning Wheel reading a review on RPG knit of the original Burning Wheel classic and I mean I didn't buy it right then but I read it and kind of it was in the back of my mind and then a few years later I started getting into the forge I was reading a lot of Christian's blog and that got me looking at the forge and got me interested and I think Burning Wheel classic ended up being one of the first indie games that I bought and then I just fell in love with it I didn't get a chance to play it a lot though so like whenever I go to cons I try to always if there's some Burning Wheel I always try to do that I try to run it at cons that's why I'm here at Burning Apocalypse I want to play as much of Burning Wheel as humanly possible. I first heard about Burning Wheel when Mouse Guard won the Enny the I've been playing some D&D fourth edition but it got to a point where the players told me they didn't want to play that anymore so this happened just all at the same time so I got the Mouse Guard book read through it and I figured Burning Wheel was something in the same vein and bought it and loved it since then I bought a lot of other games played a lot of different games but Burning Wheel is always going to be a favorite of mine I think. Glaring down. Then I knew where the truth went.