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Welcome to divide intimacy radio your radio Haven of breaths your hermitage of the heart Modestering the mind where we lift our hearts and minds to help them to draw upon the wisdom of the saints the magisterial teachings of the church and today on the wisdom Teakings with respect to exorcism and deliverance ministry we can do q and a session Questions come about that and who is our guest today? I am very excited to introduce a friend And our return guest one senior steven risetti He is he has been the an exorcist for the archdiocese of washington for over 12 years He is a priest of the diocese of stirr cues and also the president and founder of the saint michael center for spiritual renewal He is a licensed psychologist and has spent 30 years working in Psychological treatment and the spiritual renewal of priests and religious He assists in the trading of exorcists and late team members Monsignor risetti has led hundreds of exorcisms and delivering sessions some of which you can find online So check out the website the saint michael center for spiritual renewal that we will drop into Comments or come to the swing at catholic exorcism.org And incredible information. He's also the author of diary of an american exorcist Demons possession in the modern day battle against ancient evil Which is not scary. It's a fascinating read Such good content and that is published by soviet press and you can find it at soviet Institute.com. Welcome Monsignor risetti. It's so awesome to have you back. It's terrifically back with the parks. I'm glad to be here For those folks who are wondering about past shows. We did a series with Monsignor on this book And you can find that at those at spiritualdirection.com. So Monsignor, um, well before I say this I just want to say this to folks about you Um, I I know a lot of people in the church. You know a lot of priests And I don't know of anyone who has more of a heart That I mean just reading your works and your blogs and things I don't know of anyone who has more of a heart that aches and breaks for broken fellow priests religious Were caught up and in some of these physical things And uh, how you know, this may be a weird question, but how did that all develop in you? I mean you give your entire life To helping people heal and How did that emerge in you like, you know, does that make sense? Uh, it's a good question. I think it's the ministry impulse, you know, when you see people in need and suffering uh, you know kind of kind of Hit you in the arc, you know, you want you want to help and What I found in this ministry is with with the healing power of christ Some very powerful things going to happen. So you you add that ministry impulse That that that movement of the spirit plus that power of the healing of christ and it's been I'll tell you my last few years have been, uh stunningly satisfying to see The freedom that people find in christ. So it's just I just uh, it just uh, I'm so grateful for this ministry And so beautiful when we can really testify to the healing power of christ That he is true. He wants his people to be Healed and saved and renewed and restored and he is still healing And he is stealing his healing through the ministry of the st. Michael's center and other good priests and religious across the country It's just awesome. It's awesome. I don't know why I continue to be surprised It's not as god said, you know, I Jesus I heal people and I give this authority to you now to continue my ministry And I guess I shouldn't be so surprised but I get Like we run these online deliverance sessions once a month and we have maybe a few thousand people show up And after the sessions I get testimonials from people and it's amazing that people they're physical healings There's some emotional healing people being liberated all sorts of Powerful graces every month and it's just encouragement for me to get their emails It's sort of it's sort of like the book of acts that we're reading now as we're awaiting the falling of the holy spirit Those may hear the show outside of the time we're recording it the recording it before Coming up to pentecost You know, I think one of the beauties of or the most most beautiful things about or how things about Work is that there's no ambiguity about it, right? There's such a clear There's such clarity about the work of god and the movement of god Well, I mean to to see For example, I'm working right now with this several people one person yesterday. For example, I was praying over a very She had been involved with Kundalini yoga and some deep Cult and magic behaviors and her whole life became dark and heavy and could be pressed And you can just see it in her face and as we get praying you can see the the lifting of that Lifting of this darkness depression And you see she feels a sense of peace and light and joy. So to see that movement from Impression darkness heaviness a despair to hope and light and peace is just a wonderful Journey that is a good way of describing the christian journey. Yes. This is Dan stepplin berkwood of audience And we're interviewing Montes senior rossetti From the st. Michael center He's an actress and a man given his entire life To help you people get free want to jump into the questions now step once you go ahead Okay Here's our first question. Have you ever done anything in spiritual warfare specifically on overcoming addiction? And how much of addiction is demonic and how much is purely? Human weakness is a great question. Yeah, it's a complex question to you know, as you mentioned stepplin I'm also a psychologist as well All through system and so I see the interplay for the psychological and the spiritual it's I think a mistake to make two Jurassic of a cut between them like there's a psychological here the spiritual here. No, no We're one person You know for one person and so what we found is that the satan takes advantage He's an opportunist of our human weaknesses In drives wedges in this so for people who have Uh Are prone to addictions or maybe struggle with addictions It's able to use that and really sort of go out onto it and really try to destroy the person So when we're making healing about it as the lesson or to heal this person We'll pray over them and we'll we'll sense this demonic presence, which is very much Goating the person to destruction At the same time we'll want that to go to those 12 step meetings to go to an addictions counselor to do that So we find that the combination of psychological means done in the catholic perspective of course and then the spiritual Healing What is what it would you how would you distinguish? between A cycle a psychologist in an in a cat from a catholic perspective versus One who is just secular and how does that interplay? Well, uh In the past, you know people don't go to someone who's open to the whole gene journey The extreme example some some therapists will say, you know your your christian faith is is holding you down Holding you back you need to be liberated from this and it's part of the problem and Oh, yeah, I mean that's just nonsense now people can't use the faith incorrectly So sometimes we have to liberate them from from all's christian notions But what we found and I found as you mentioned I've worked with priests and religious for 30 years in this healing program we found that that re-energizing a real christian faith the catholic faith is a powerful Input is towards healing and our in our rates of recovery were like about 70 or 80 percent Compared to a second organization without the faith component. Maybe you know 20 30 40 percent We you can see that using the faith in the christian perspective Aids the journey of healing absolutely, yeah Yeah, and it's it's interesting that that This conversation came up. I it brought to mind that was working with the directee years ago and they had a secular counselor and deeply religious deeply devout and you know, obviously a catholic director, which was me and the the secular Counselor said you're suffering from religiosity You're doing too many religious things and I'm going Wow, you know, it's like I put my head in my hands and thought No We gotta have a conversation about this and so it's it's really fascinating that it's both and And we have to understand that that enemy is an opportunity that he will Attach to our weaknesses and then just drive to destroy us. So it's uh, I really love the way that you describe that Okay, I think we're ready for the next question How can we find where demonic attachments or influence is affecting our family line? What do we do about it? How do we clean our family line as catholics and can it return? Yeah, well, uh, there are sort of footprints if you will of satan's presence things They're they're obviously they're normal human illnesses, you know when someone's got you know, it's just those Or they've got pneumonia whatever you you plot or apply the normal medical means But at times you start seeing strange things happen in family lines You'll see these repetitions Of the same kind of problem again like one family had Incest in one generation You know the same same dynamic next generation next generation next generation And you saw this repeating generational repetition of either Bad behavior or strange illnesses And you started to wonder about what's going on with this family. Is it just a psychological medical thing? Or is there something spiritual going on? And so sometimes when we'll pray over the person to lift what we call generational spirits We'll actually we'll actually feel the difference And you're actually breaking something that's Passed on in a spiritual way. So we look for strange Unusual repetitions down to the generations And then we'll apply a Healing remedy and then usually if that they began with the the earlier generation doing a lot of cult behaviors Freemasonry all that that sort of stuff which opened the door to the generational spirit Right and and Monsignor, you know, one of the ways that I've seen these patterns Oh, and we're gonna have to take a break here in a second. So rather than I'll just say when we get back That going towards these patterns, you know, what can we if we can't get to you for a session, right? What is something that we as late people can do? You know, maybe individually in our families with our spouses, you know, or our loved ones Um, what can we do on our own? So we'll come back here in a second and we'll answer that question Can you ask him if he has headphones? Do you have headphones? That doesn't work very well I have Uh, why is that is it bad? We're picking up some uh, some kind of I think it's the minions If I get one more text message of unwanted advice, I might Yeah, we're getting we're getting some strange Jordan do you think it's the connection like no, it's it's everyone has that headphones because it's his mic is picking up Your guys speak because every time you picking up our voice every time you guys talk you get so let's try that Let's try that Okay, let's see if that works. Yeah Yeah, it's it if it has echo cancellation, so it would be even worse. So it's it's Okay, I mean you can hear it So, uh, we gotta go we gotta end at 13 you gotta be doing a good job with recovery Friends while we're waiting kind of getting this set up as we're watching Just remember to head off spiritualdirection.com you can find I'm on senior. There's Eddie's book Diary of American Exorcist And our series and there are a bunch of other posts from him on the website as well And then our our interview series we did with him And then after the show, of course, we'll have links to the st. Michael's center One thing I want to mention too while he's getting set up is the They produce an app called ex just is it called catholic exorcism? Yes, exactly. Yeah catholic exorcism That you can download from the app store and it's fantastic. It has all kinds of It has st. Michael's shield on the little icon, right? I think so And it it has the deliverance first the laity it has all kinds of resources ways to connect with them to get signed up for their Emails so that when he has a live session you can register for and be in that session Which that was what you described me. That's right. How many people are experiencing liberation? All right mon senior. I want you to give us some words. Okay, uh, uh, Huge improvement much better. Awesome. We can hear you perfectly. Yeah, okay, great. Perfect. All right. Oh, there you have it Well, let's let's head back in on your mark. It said gellum. This is data 70 Burke Welcome back to divine intimacy radio your radio haven abreast. We're interviewing mon senior rossetti. He's an exorcist for the our studies. He's a wife's from tc and absolutely fascinating conversation So before the break you had a question you want to hit that right, right? So we were talking about Breaking of the generational standard familiar lines on how that shows up And you know outside of a film of a repeat Um, you know manifestation of say suicidal ideation, which you know, we see that in family lines I've seen it way too many times. It's very heartbreaking and that obviously needs more of an intercession from Someone like yourself or somebody at the st. Michael's center or their own diocesan priest or exorcist outside of things like that What about um, what if what if we don't have things that are quite so Um You know problematic what can we do as individuals on our own? Sure, let me first say that I know some priests Would would uh dismiss the notion of generational spirits And I would say that this is not de fide the church has never spoken definitive about this This is simply the experience. I think of exorcists and people in this ministry So but you can kind of understand why it might be the case Well, we are not responsible or culpable for the sins of our parents or grandparents or great-grandparents The things that they do can seriously affect us in their negative ways And for example if both of your parents are alcoholics, uh, you're not responsible for that But but you'll certainly Have negative uh an experience of it. So it'll affect you in a negative way And sometimes people say well, that's not fair. Well, you know, it's but you know, you grew up with your mother telling Hey, listen life is not fair all the time. I mean we we suffer for the sins And of course originally from the sin of adam and eve, you know through no fault of our own But let me say this Many times people say well, I've got some sort of evil spirit. So I need a priest Not necessarily most cases can be resolved without a priest We remember that you're all baptized Christians The lord has given you much of his authority and power as christians So don't don't denigrate what the lord has given to you especially his parents by gosh His parents and and his husbands and wives These sacramental graces lord give you are very powerful So if you think you've got a generational spirit go to our app catholic exorcism Or the website catholic exorcism.org and under deliverance prayers for the laity You'll see a prayer to lift generational spirits. I would say that several times I mean, I would do it, you know, maybe a half a dozen times together What if the husband and wife could do it together? It'd be great. I think you'll find uh most cases That will be effective I'm sorry And if I might add to go to confession first to make sure that you're in a state of grace before you go in and do those prayers because we know that The prayers of a of a righteous man available too much, right? So we don't want to have a hindrance when we go forth to supplicate the lord and ask me for healing Before we say the deliverance prayers in a session an exorcism session or deliverance session We sort of scrape away the dust if you will scrape away the stuff going to confession uh castling out uh Contracts with satan all sorts whatever the brush is get rid of the brush and then the the deliverance prayers can be more effective Very good. Well, you asked you said the exact same thing. I was going to say the spiritual foundation that we have Is necessary. We need to get health and spiritually some a lot a lot of times father I'll maybe I'll ask you this way How often is it true that when people come fully possessed if you go There's spiritual foundations are a wreck. They're not sacraments Uh, I would say 50 50 because some people are possessed because their own fault And so the the healing process is a process of purification In sanctification. So that's why it doesn't that one and done so there's a whole process of Purifying the person so the demons have nothing to grab onto There are other cases which are not uncommon where someone got possessed of sadly because of something their parents did If a number of people come to us their 20s say early 20s And their parents were into santeria or voodoo or the occult And uh, and so they ended up, you know, sadly with a bunch of demons attached to them The good news is typically with someone like that When it's not their own fault can be liberated more quickly Yeah, and just again on a personal note that happened to me. I wasn't fully possessed. My mother was involved in the cult And I suffered tremendously Seeing the demonic and experiencing it After I became christian weird with jewish and of course still jewish, but uh After I became a fulfilled jew, um, I had to go through deliverance myself To get free of some pretty heavy oppression. So but didn't require a priest No, I always prefer that it's possible but This is Dan seven berth were divided into missy radio rickwood monsignor rosetti author of Diary of an american exorcist talking about spiritual warfare. I want to ask you about a famous case Uh made famous by the exorcism of emily roe's movie So this is the question based on that actual Case and transcripts from the case the judas demon that possessed analyze michelle as was her real name Said the giving of communion in the hand is my word. He also said People standing during holy communion pleases me more than kneeling I do everything possible that That no one be on his knees and then finally he said the holy face should be venerated So he's saying you know with the holy face in particular that all these truths I'm not saying any of these are untruths But how do you know when the demon is telling the truth or is lying to you and those when they say stuff like that? Well, you know that was a very public case because the exorcist was was uh taken to trial for malpractice when when Analyze died of malnutrition and it was convicted by the way I listen you go online and actually listen to some of the the audio tapes of the sessions You know typically an exorcism pretty ugly stuff and and Obviously, it's not my place to judge them But I do know that I listen to the tapes the the exorcists were actually asking questions of the demons Which were not directly related to the exorcism, but with more stem from theological curiosity I think I heard one question like how many guardian angels does someone have Well, that you don't need to know that so be very careful about asking for extraneous information because it stems from a curiosity in a bad sense of the word And the demons go to have a field day with that and it looks like they did in this case demons lie And they try to create discord when I see these statements that you read It sows discord in the church. It sows distrust of the church So if the church allows communion in hand, then we should be obedient and and accept that Now it doesn't mean you you have the option of most places on the tongue or fine You you choose the option that you feel most comfortable with that you feel called to But let's not so discord in the church. That's what looks like the demons were doing Distrust of the church Discord the church and that's the work of satan. There's something else you said in your answer. I think it's really important Which is curiosity tusks, right? This this disorder of curiosity In this whole realm can lead you down some pretty destructive paths. In fact, I guess most People get involved in the cults It began with curiosity well, also people who Involved the deliverance ministry. Sometimes they get Accessibly curious about this stuff Remember Jesus said don't be so much Happy that the demons are subject to he told the apostles But rather rejoice that your names are written in heaven. So for us in this ministry, we have to make sure we focus our eyes on Jesus Yes, we have to pay attention to the demons. Yes, we do a lot of work with demons But fundamentally we're focused on Jesus So and in order and curiosity about if for example, when somebody told me I've read every book that's been published on nexosisms You know, I'm not sure that's so healthy. I have not read every book Watch those movies by the way all the tv. I mean, you know, I let's not that they this can be unhealthy And can actually ultimately be an open door to the demonic, you know before before you get with the next question I think it's important to specifically know Late people should never I mean This is how I would say it and but correct me. I'm okay. You're the expert. I'm not Late people should never have conversations with demons should never ask them questions at a period, right? Yeah, that's true and actually No one should Pope Francis interestingly he has spoke more and about satan than the last bunch of popes is interested, of course, they all the other popes did but but uh, and one thing Pope Francis consistently says Is that don't dialogue with satan because he's he's clever. He's quick and he'll do a number on your head And he does so do not Converse with demons and priests even priests should not the only time we ever do it Is in an exorcism and that's we limit the question specifically to what's related to the exorcism How'd you get in how many demons are there? You know, what's what what are your names and how do we get rid of you? So we were a very limited Focus conversation only in an exorcism, right? That's how we say safe. Okay. Here's another question Can one remove or successfully keep it bay so to speak generational spirits from another family in one's own home My wife and I have her mom living with us Well, I get questions like this all the time that that people say, you know, my my one person in the house is doing occult stuff And uh, and so it's a it's a concern Here's what I'd say first of all Uh, sometimes people when they're in this ministry, they become a little bit too much enthralled with With with almost what I think is more of a magic approach In other words, if I say the exact right words That this is going to work and if I don't say the right words, you know, it's not going to work That's magic magic is that the words have their own power to them and that's not us Our prayers are our prayers their prayers to to god you say lord, please help us now We'll delineate the graces we want but ultimately the lord gives us what he wants So when when when you've got a particular intention such as someone in the family Or someone in the house may have generational spirits Sure We'll say that prayer to lift generational spirits and you can say you can adjust the prayer We'd like to lift in generational spirits against us and against this other family living in the house Fine, but just remember that it's not magic. The lord hears your prayers and he's going to answer them Yeah, it's interesting and it kind of rolls into today's Gospel reading and I know we're outside of time and space here but with with a podcast but Today's reading he says as for whatever you want in my name and I will give it to you We just continually go in faith that the lord hears our prayers and that he's going to bring the best To us according to his will and his good timing. So with that it's time to run But until next time may the god of peace make you perfect in holiness May he preserve you whole and entire spirit soul and body irreproachable at the coming of our lord Jesus christ Amen Amen And for those on live stream hang out with us for a second So I think we're good on time jordan to jump over Get one more down. Are you still good on time once you know? Yep Okay, so so so what's going to happen is we have to send him a differently He should have it. We're going to hop into the next. You should already have it So what we're going to do is close out this this show folks and then we're going to jump over to live streaming on spiritualdirection.com We only have a hard page on the facebook page. Sorry. We only have a half hour slot I need to attend so we're going to jump over to spiritualdirection.com facebook page And we're going to continue and get through the rest of our questions with one senior So we'll see you there in just a few minutes