 Well, the thing is like the parachute, for example, coupon code on Google Express, I guarantee that works. I think for a lot of Google services, April Fool's is actually a way for them to make you aware. Yeah, it's a marketing opportunity. You might not have even known Google Express was a thing. Right. And for Yahoo, it's a chance to violate SEC rules. I didn't see that one. Well, they put a story out that Trader Joe's was going to close all its stores. Oh. And it's like, well, that's great. Yeah. Your respective news organization just puts out a lie is not April Fool's. Well, at least they didn't drop mics on your Gmail. Mine was still working this morning, because I hadn't closed the tab, and it must have gotten the code somehow. And so I was still able to do it even after Google pulled it and apologized. I like the tweet, I don't know if it was on the article that you linked, or something you sent. But it was like, well, how could this possibly go wrong? And it was someone giving information about a funeral, and we're sorry for your loss, and then there's a mic drop thing on top. Yeah. That was a mock-up. Right. Right. But it could happen. I know. You know what? What's the difference between a mock-up and reality in this day and age, right? I mean, if journalism is embedding a tweet you saw and commenting on it, it might as well have happened. Let's just pretend it did. Nothing is true. Everything is permissible. We're all the Hasisim now. Oh, man. I can't wait to see Blenz Canary. I'm not even going to use him. Oh, well. Whoa, whoa, whoa, bastard. Yeah, this isn't pretty interesting. I'm not that kind of Joe. Yeah, sorry. You know, this is, I don't know, this is an interesting little drawing. It took me a while to wrap my head around. How do I want to approach this? Well, when Tom mentioned, you know, we can do that or we can talk Tesla, my first thought was like, I think Len might have an easier time if we just talk Tesla. Yeah. This was an interesting drawing. We'll see how it goes. I don't know. All right. We will. We will see how it goes in just about 25 minutes. Yeah. All right. You guys ready? Yeah. Sure. How about you win, I'll lose, and Len will draw. Done. I can be Bert Convy. My fellow citizens of the Internet, there is nothing to fear but fear itself. So go show fear, you mean business. Go to DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support and show them you're not interested in fear. You're interested in the future. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, April 1st, 2016. I'm Tom Merritt, and I promise everything I say is going to be true to the best of my knowledge for this entire show. April Fool's Free Zone. DarrenKitchenfromhack5.org is really here. That's really him. No joke. I'm here, Tom. Yes. You are here. We are going to talk about canaries. Not a joke. We're talking about warrant canaries and Reddit and the transparency report. Len Peralta is here. How are you doing, Len? Good. Good. You can actually put a little moniker in front of my name bestselling comic book artist Len Peralta. Congratulations. So the munchkin selling well I hear. Well, it's sold out of my local place, which was great. That's great. Because I bought the last two issues, but they're ordering more. And they're very well reviewed. I won't go on for too long, but I guess I should have known that there would be people reviewing my issue and got a nine out of ten. It's a must read of this week. Fantastic. Yes. Well, we are honored to have bestselling comic artist Len Peralta. Thank you very much. Today. Let's get into the headlines. Tesla unveiled the Model 3 electric car last night. The $35,000 car can go 215 miles on a charge zero to 60 in six seconds. Use Tesla's autopilot feature has a 15 inch, not a 17 inch touch screen and it's landscape, not portrait. So different than previous Tesla's sports Tesla's supercharging network. And they announced that they hoped to double that by the end of 2017. Seats five adults, they say comfortably. We haven't tried it. With storage in both the front and the back. Deliveries are expected to begin by the end of 2017. Musk tweeted Friday that more than 180,000 people had put a thousand dollar deposit down to pre-order the car. Were you one of them, Darren? I was not. And I would say, though, however, I will give the caveat that I mean 35K for a new car, you know, and it's electric and it is sexy. It is. It isn't the love. $35,000 is a lot of money. For a new car. It's not terrible. I mean, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's apparently near the median. It's not what I would expect for a Tesla that's looking like the love child of a Prius and an Aston Martin. You're talking to a guy who's only new car purchase. I've only ever bought used cars. The only time I bought a new car, it was a Saturn. So, yeah, probably wrong audience. Well, anyway, I'm the wrong audience, too, because I don't have a commute. So I have absolutely no use for a electric car, sadly. Because when I do drive, I drive like, you know, from here to Albuquerque. So, but anyway, I just have to say that this thing is just gorgeous. The windshield that goes from front to back. The weird, like I thought that a car without a grille would be like awkward, but it's not. It's totally working for me in those interior lines. Anyway, I'm gushing about the just the sexiness of this all throughout. You're not alone. A lot of people are gushing about this. It is somewhat telling, and I'm not sure what it tells, but it is somewhat telling that we lined up for a $35,000 car that many people were preordering before they had even seen it. We didn't line up for a new phone from Apple as a country. But then again, Apple also sells a lot more phones. So when you think about it, right, they're talking about the new Model 3 being available 2017, 180,000 units. And I mean, the iPhone is so many more units. I don't see more units cheaper, smaller. I'm just saying, next Apple iPhone should be $35,000 and not ship for two years. No, no, no. I think there's a way to actually really sum this up. And you have to figure that with Tesla's new plant in Nevada, where they're making all those batteries, they're going to hopefully be able to churn out like, what is it, $500,000 of those a year. So once they ramp up their battery production, then Apple might have not a chance of catching up in terms of sales per lithium equivalent. Sales per milliamp hour. Per milliamp hour, I think that Apple is still winning. But if they can do 180,000 of these Teslas in a year, I mean, they got a lot of batteries in those things, then they might be winning on that front at least. As an April Fool's joke, Google added an orange button that read send with and an icon representing a mic drop to Gmail. This button was placed right next to the normal send button and replaced the send plus archive button. Probably not a good idea. The orange button sent the message but added a gif of a minion dropping a mic. After several people complained, Google removed the feature apologizing and writing in a blog post. It looks like we pranked ourselves this year. One person claims to have lost their job because of an email they sent and accidentally included the gif. I'm not sure how I feel about this just because of the whole minion thing. I get if you're going to do the Snoop Dogg vision on YouTube or you're going to have that actor from Silicon Valley on the Google X thing. It's one thing to bring in celebrities, but when you start just using a gif of, maybe I'm just a stickler for trademarks, but I feel like, what, is there some deal there with Paramount? Is it Paramount? I don't even know the studio that makes the minions. Deal with the movie studio? Yeah. Hard to say. Hard to say. Maybe it was. Maybe it was a marketing deal. I don't know. Bad UI placement to replace a functional button, first of all, but also to put this right next to the actual send button. A lot of people use send plus archive on an ongoing basis, and so when the muscle memory takes over, they probably are just going to hit that. This is actually when I draft new emails. The very last thing that I do is I put in the recipient in the to field because all it takes is control enter or tab enter to really get it. That's good practice. Reddit issued its latest transparency report, and this year's report does not say that it has never received a national security letter or any other classified request for user information. That passage in last year's report is something known as a warrant canary, meaning like a canary in a coal mine. If it disappears, the implication is that magic has happened. Wait a minute. No, that if it disappears, the implication is that a request has been received. Canaries don't usually disappear in coal mines, though they just plop over dead. It is illegal to disclose the specific receipt of such request if they're accompanied by a non-disclosure order. Regarding the report, Reddit founder Steve Huffman wrote, I've been advised not to say anything one way or the other, although he did say a few other things. Great. So the 35th most visited website in the world has now finally, inevitably, received its NSL, or at least that is the confirmation that we can take from this. Unless, of course, it's just an April Fool's joke, in which case, terrible joke. No, they released it yesterday. I guess people started at least 30 April Fool's jokes early. Yeah. It was April Fool's. It was April 1st somewhere yesterday. There you go. No point. So the way that I look at this is like, well, great. Now that's done. What about next year? What about the year after? The whole thing about a canary is it's a one-shot kill, and then once it's done, what are you really saying? Are you saying to your users, no longer trust us as a platform? What's my takeaway as a user from this? Yeah, we'll talk about this in the discussion, because the other possibility here is that Reddit's lawyers said, you know, we could get in trouble for saying we have not received something. And we'll talk about the reasons why that might be true as well, which Huffman could be saying, trying to say, like, no, we just had to take it out, but I also can't tell you that we just had to take it out. It's really not a very good situation. Wired reports that since 2014, artists Trevor Paglin and Jacob Applebaum have exhibited a sculpture in museums called the Autonomy Cube. The 38 centimeter cube houses a Wi-Fi router with Bunny Wang's redundant Novena motherboards inside that serve as a relay. Four of the devices are currently touring museums, and three more are scheduled to begin in May. Paglin hopes to get some museums to make the installations permanent. In fact, a public gallery in Oldenburg, Germany, even served as an exit node for tour, supplying a speed of 100 megabits per second, which is pretty fast for an exit node. Yeah, no, this is really good stuff. Part of me is just like, wait a second, we've been around this before and got conflicting information from the tour project. Then again, if this is to raise awareness, then that is fantastic. It is beautiful as a museum piece. I'm the first person to say motherboards belong in shadow boxes on the walls. So it's a really cool idea, but it just reminds me of the pie. I think it was called onion pie. There was a distribution that you put on a Raspberry Pi that would allow you to turn one into a tour node Wi-Fi access point. The concept was that you would just connect your device to that Wi-Fi access point and assume that everything would then go through tour. It got a lot of backlash from the tour community saying actually we don't support such a concept because it's poor network security, Wi-Fi is inherently insecure, and all of those things. Then to see this, I get that on the one hand you're trying to make a statement with this and you want to make it as accessible as possible and somebody walking by in a museum can easily pull their phone out and connect to it and say, oh cool, now I'm using tour. I never knew what that was before, but on the other hand, I love the implementation of this where it's basically two routers, one to reboot the other in case the other fails, and just the concept that you could just drop it and as like a reverse gateway, it becomes a node for the tour network, which means, which makes the question, well if it's that simple, then why isn't the tour project shipping these all over the place Yeah, maybe they just haven't put the budget together for that. I don't know, that's a great question because what Peglin's wanting to do, I think is laudable, which is, man if I can get museums everywhere to host these, we would have a more robust tour network. Public libraries, get them everywhere. Yeah, two sources tell Reuters that Egypt blocked Facebook free basics internet service on December 30th after Facebook declined to let the Egyptian government surveil users on the service. There's no controversy that it was shut down. At the time though, the Egyptian government claimed that mobile carrier Etisolot had only been granted a two month permit to offer the service, and that other carriers thought that the service was unfair. They pointed to India saying, look there's the net neutrality considerations, we're just not going to do this free basics in Egypt. But now sources telling Reuters that the real reason was that Egypt went to Facebook and said, great plug us in, we're going to spy on people on free basics and Facebook said no. It's probably idealistic and wishful thinking of me to feel this way, but I would really really love to see in our lifetime, or in the next internet generation, a service as large as someone like Facebook to actually respond to this sort of thing by actually blocking that nation that says, oh no no, we want to be able to conduct surveillance on our citizens that use your platform. I would like to see as we go into, as this balance of power continues between the concept of nation states with citizens versus internet services with users, I would like to see the boycott of a nation from a service that says kind of like Google getting out of China or something. Well, yeah, I guess we've seen that with Google actually, although they're now moving back in. Right, so anyway, I would just love to see like oh, you want to use our service to spy on your citizens? You know what, while it would be great to connect to the entire world and have every user on your service, maybe it's just a better thing to say we're going to take our service elsewhere and you guys can roll your own. I don't know. Although when you block, I mean I know that you're talking about, well Facebook could say well Facebook is now not available in Egypt until you let free basics. Yes. Usually the case is like you're blocked and it's like well I don't have any more leverage because you blocked my service. So it's nations like Syria and Egypt that have during times of political pressure during times of elections gone as far as to like block social media like Facebook to prevent citizens from organizing protests or other such events or even just disseminating valuable knowledge. I get it, but like if the country is blocking you, what do you block back? Them, you say okay, you know what? They're already not allowing their citizens because their citizens had a moment to get in on the Facebook and see all the baby photos and drink the Kool-Aid and then you just pull that plug and say you replace it with a page that says we no longer support. Thank you, that's a lot easier for us now. Well I would just like to see a service like that say we no longer support a nation that is going to Yeah, but then you're punishing the people who live there for the actions of the government. Say again? You're punishing the people who live in the country for the actions of its government. You are and you're replacing it with a page that says sorry you can't play here because your government is bad. Come back when you've got that sorted. 40 years ago today in 1976 Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak and Ronald Wayne decided to change their garage project into a partnership and today all, well Ron Wayne typed up the papers but he would leave the partnership after 11 days and Apple Computer would be incorporated the following January and of course sadly Steve Jobs passed away several years back so really Steve Wozniak is the only co-founder that stayed involved and is still alive but hey 40 years ago today incorporation? I think I ruined that story. In a three to two vote the FCC passed a measure to allow low income Americans to apply the $9.25 a month lifeline subsidy to broadband or bundled voice and data mobile internet service according to the Washington Post and requires ISPs to offer download speeds of at least 10 megabits per second the FCC anticipates the new option will be available December 1st this is good stuff I feel like this is a move in the right direction and at the same time I feel like this is also a technology problem or a problem that can be solved with technology and the FCC knows this and is at the forefront of this and has been doing more and more and I would like to see them continue to open up spectrum for say community based networks with the goal of eventually providing free access to everyone I know that they recently did so I believe it was with three gigahertz in trials right now and so you know this is good it's one step but like let's solve this with technology too yeah too I agree with you 100% there which is there is a subsidy available for telephone service and today telephone service is much less valuable than it used to be but internet service is way more valuable so let that subsidy apply to the internet as well what is interesting is that the Republicans and Democrats on the commission here were in agreement about the principle of that they were in disagreement about how it should be implemented the Republicans wanted it to be a much faster broadband but with a different arrangement for providing it and Minion Clyburn almost swung over to their side and at the last minute Tom Wheeler pressured her into voting with him so we get the 10 megabits per second instead of the 25 and there would have been higher costs for ISPs under the other plan that didn't get approved but I think everybody was in agreement like yeah no this is the modern age if we're going to have a subsidy at all it should apply to the internet right and bits are better than no bits and I totally feel you have to at least like claiming plain old telephone system is a means of adequate communication anymore it's just totally bizarre I made a phone call the other day and the person on the other end was very confused and had to explain like oh no no one died everything is cool I'm just making a phone call instead of texting it is weird how that's changed now granted there are situations where a plain old telephone system is definitely still the top option because it has its own powered system and all that I get that it's not entirely dead but you have to admit that its day is fading while the internet's day is rising I don't think that's controversial you're right when Egypt shuts down the internet you can still use the phone system to dial up an ISP in the Netherlands researchers at MIT's computer science and artificial intelligence laboratory led by professor Dina Katabi published a paper on a system called Kronos that could locate devices from a single Wi-Fi access point so in other words tell where you are because presumably you're holding the device within a decimeter it calculates the time data takes to travel from a user to the access point with an average error of 0.47 nanoseconds so less than a second error Kronos channel hops to make several measurements and then stitch them together an algorithm eliminates delays created by walls and furniture which is why they're able to do it without having to do triangulation they can still tell the angle by using those different channels but they also have a way to really error correct for distance and then they can almost pin you down they did some tests on this they were able to keep a drone from flying too close to a person who was operating it they were able to tell whether a user was outside of a cafe or inside of a cafe they were able to predict that with 97% accuracy this is pretty interesting that's the really exciting stuff for security concerns is that Wi-Fi is so ubiquitous convenient, people expect it corporations deploy it but it leaks through walls and then inadvertently people in the parking lot that may have nothing to do with the corporation can deploy attacks and get on the network using just the fact that radio goes through walls if you are then able to also say oh well based on the delay this guy is in a shady van in the parking lot drop his connection then that's a good thing 97% success rate of distinguishing whether or not the customer was in the cafe or outside which can be really useful and it's just really interesting to see this kind of stuff being used I've played with it in the past in that when you do very long distance Wi-Fi links you actually have to tweak the timeouts because if it doesn't show up in a very precise window it expects that the packets gone but if you're going further distance just because the speed of light seems to still be a thing then it will take longer so we either do this or we solve the speed of light problem either one I think Congress should look into changing that law too the law of the speed of light one of the fastest growing startups in the world is Garina this is just interesting they've made a lot of noise this week because they got funding it's latest round of funding makes it the most valuable startup in Southeast Asia at $3.75 billion US in valuation its fastest growing products are Shopee, a mobile marketplace and Airpay, an e-payment service but it makes its profits still mostly on a digital content business led by Garina Plus which is an online game and social media platform highly profitable according to Tech in Asia because it publishes top games in Southeast Asia for instance League of Legends is published by Garina in Southeast Asia which is incredibly lucrative they're also big into e-sports this is just one of those like you probably haven't heard of this company but now you have because I think you might be hearing more about them in the future hey thanks to Alan Char, Highlar92 T.G. Steller and Abituele Kondolse who submitted things that we used from our subreddit keep them coming even if we don't use them we benefit from seeing them in there and we definitely benefit from your votes submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com that's look at the headlines so yeah let's go back to that Reddit story this year's request has no national security request section at all last year under that section it said that as of January 29th, 2015 Reddit has never received a national security letter an order under the foreign intelligence survey act or any other classified request for user information if we ever received such a request we would seek to let the public know it existed now they have joined a lawsuit that Twitter filed a while back to sue to be able to tell the number of requests they get right now the law says well you can disclose a range sometimes that range 250 sometimes it's up to 1000 depending on the situation but your range is zero to that number you can't tell how many you got this is important the law, that part of the Patriot Act says you have to say zero to 250 if you disclose the number so saying we have received no requests could be by a judge interpreted to be violating that provision EFF says it's not and they will defend anybody who gets sued under that provision but it may be that Reddit decided you know what it's risky to even say we haven't received any under this crazy law so we're just gonna pull it out or the other thing is what Darren said which I think more people believe happened they got one of these requests and so they killed the Canary and now it's not in there in the report Spez aka Steve Huffman said on a thread about this I've been advised not to say anything one way or another as we mentioned he also said even with the Canaries we're treading a fine line the whole thing is icky which is why we joined Twitter and pushing back right and then that's the thing this is it is icky and we can only speculate we don't have you know they literally can't say we have received one because of that 0 to 250 and it irks me that it's not 255 but that's a different story and that's that is frustrating because they could have been just that they removed it because it's just not a good idea to get into that practice I'm conflicted about the whole value of the Canary thing I think that it's good that a lot of people jumped on this post-node and revelations hack5.org still exists but I feel like it's not enough because once you have had to remove your Canary what information are you giving to your users what is that value to your users and after you've done that after you've removed it if you do receive one if you're going with the concept of what that's what it's for then what are your users supposed to take away from that and change their I mean obviously we're speculating here but we have it under good authority that it's because of dailytechnoshow.reddit.com that there has been an NSL this year that was standing what's my take away here if I'm just a Reddit user that is the question about these Canaries especially when you have someone saying it's a fine line even with Canaries so you at best have an unflippable bit right you can flip it one time from zero to one and then never flip it again and that is only telling in one circumstance and then there is this shade of doubt that is thrown on it like well they can't say why they removed it so we're left to assume that they receive a request but even then they got one request and so we don't know how many more they'll ever get under this system anyway or whether they were for the bomber in Belgium the bomber in Ankara the bomber in Kenya I mean who are they after we have no idea that the system is bad not because you're able to issue clandestine orders for information I think that's fine the problem is there's no oversight if someone issues them with maybe not the right intentions and that's always the case with secrecy like this the way the system is supposed to work which is they can only they can't ask for content but who's who's to know right because you can't say what they asked for you can only dispute in court as a recipient the fact that you are asked not to disclose it which honestly that's probably the biggest part of it which is if you get one of these with a non-disclosure agreement that non-disclosure order comes from the director of the FBI has to but they have issued according to Nicholas Merrill I'm sorry according to Threadpost they have issued 300,000 of these since 2001 so apparently the director has a very efficient way of approving them and then you have to go to court and fight them now how long does it take to go to court and fight them Darren wait but I don't know a decade over a decade and the thing is in those 300,000 national security letters since 2001 only one recently even does do we even get an idea of the scope of them you're just talking about how they're not supposed to it's a subpoena for information but it's not supposed to be the content so it's more like metadata but if you can't contest that then why even bother being held to what the law says if you know that they can't fight it in any sort of court so you might as well so the question is is this if we're going to go ahead and assume that the reason why the canary is gone is because Reddit received a national security letter the question becomes did Reddit receive a national security letter for what you said like some bomber somewhere or was it hey can we get the entire user database just like data dump of the whole thing why not and again you also don't need a warrant for national security letters because you're asking for information that the Supreme Court has deemed to be without a reasonable expectation of privacy and the justification for that roughly speaking is that this is information that a third party the company that is handling your transaction already has so you're already not keeping it private because somebody else knows it so you don't need a warrant to get it and all you can contest is the non-disclosure the gag order so Nicholas Merrill did that he was the owner of Calix back in 2004 he fought his NSL court order not not because he didn't want to hand over the information he wanted to be able to tell anyone he couldn't tell his wife or anyone else that he had received the order or that he was fighting the order he could tell his lawyer obviously there it's not that ridiculous but but he he was very limited in who he could even say that he was fighting the order for and after 11 years this is what Darren was alluding to a judge ruled in his favor that the FBI had not demonstrated that disclosing the contents of the attachment would cause enumerated harm great he won but everyone looking at this goes wow to contest the gag order I'd have to spend 11 years in court under secrecy and not tell anyone about it maybe I just won't bother exactly and so for 11 years his girlfriend or wife was just wondering if he had a mistress on the side or if he was just fighting a national security letter right you just never know attorneys yeah sincerely don't use that with your kid oh I'm fighting a national security letter no that's scary though I mean you know suddenly the g-man comes to you and says like you have to give me this and you can't say anything about it or the black helicopters I don't want to live in that kind of world but you bring up a very good point that what you're talking what they're saying is like oh well we don't need a warrant or anything it's just a subpoena give us all your stuff because there was no expectation of privacy and you are the harbor of that information so give it to us and in this case they wanted the subscriber information the browser history the IP address information of all of the connections that a client have made the subscriber connections all of their email addresses the screen names they use the aliases plus six months of their online purchases so you know in one hand well that sounds kind of specific but then again this is also a national security letter from 2004 the whole concept was kind of new so as as things have grown and grown I can only imagine that the more recent ones are much more broad and it makes me wonder how much they are abused because when you go to someone and you say you can't talk about this you're going to have to give me over this stuff and you're obliged by patriotic moral obligation it makes me wonder I mean there was a report from was it epic or EFF that said that in 2007 an audit of the FBI that 10% of its NSLs were abused and yet none of these were ever not given ye old re e rubber stamp so anyway coming back to let's fix this with technology and do it the hacker way the idea that this can work because there is the lack of expectation of privacy and because the service provider is keeping the information then as a service provider the only way that you can protect your users from the NSL threat because it is a vulnerability is to build a system in such a way that it is impossible to comply and by the way if you want a transparency if you want to know what Reddit can tell you 78% increase in US and foreign requests for information 98 requests impacting 142 accounts they complied in 60% of the cases and some of the other cases they determined that the request was bogus 21% increase in foreign requests complied with 71% of the foreign requests 53 orders to remove content from outside the US complied with 21% of those and 39 of those requests to remove content came from Russia 38 of those requests were drug related and to just think that if the system were built in such a way that Reddit actually didn't know the contents of anyone's messages they wouldn't be able to reply to any of those so I'm just saying technology can solve the issue with the FCC in providing universal access and technology can solve this problem as well let's get to our pick of the day which is a piece of technology that maybe we'll help you Jody wrote in and said my pick is Vivo it's spelled with two I's though V-I-I-V-O which enables one to create an encrypted enclave that only you have the key to this enclave can be stored on Dropbox or OneDrive or Box and have a local security for your convenience if you want the beauty is when you put a file in the folder on your machine it gets encrypted without any more interaction than saving you can even open files in your enclave or locker as they call it on your iPhone your Mac and your Android and best of all it's free now as with all of these sorts of things Jody likes it I couldn't find any reviews tearing it apart but I also couldn't find any like serious security researchers who have looked at it so always be careful relying on these kinds of things but the concept is sound which is a way to have you be the person who only has the key to encrypt something and then store it in the cloud so that if anyone who's running that cloud service or the government gets a national security to look at your stuff you they wouldn't be able to see it because it would be encrypted so I can't find the source code to Vivo I also can't find any independent security audits of it so I'm just going to say hack5daren gives this one a hesitation and I will just throw out there that while not as easy to use GPG or the GNU Privacy Guard is the open source and vetted way to do encryption that's a very industry standard built on PGP and you can do the same thing you can throw it up on your Dropbox and then when the FBI compels Dropbox to give them your stuff it won't matter because it's encrypted anyway I wouldn't be surprised if Vivo was using GPG I wouldn't be surprised at all either many of these proprietary crypto things end up just using open source libraries anyway or using open standard crypto systems it's just anytime that they've like rolled their own that's when you like really steer clear I'm not saying that there's not a place in the world for like you know paid crypto or anything but anytime this is something that you should give more than just a sniff test on their home page yeah absolutely and I bring it up because I don't know that maybe Jody can enlighten us that they've done that and they found some more stuff but GPGtools.org is the place to go if you want to look at the GPG and the concept of this I think is important to let people know about yeah we were just talking about this on Threatwire and you know there's nothing wrong with that actually I'm not personally a fan of a lot of these like syncing services like password managers but at the same time I got encrypted volumes that I GPG volumes that I throw up on Dropbox and who cares you know I've got the keys send your pics to us folks feedback at dailytechnewshow.com you can find more pics at dailytechnewshow.com slash pics alright couple messages of the day that didn't come from the audience this time first of all coming up this Sunday on text message with Nate Langson in the UK well there's no getting away from it this weekend we are going to go deep on Apple's iPad Pro 9.7 inch I picked up my review unit just a day or so before it was released but I've had some extended time as a result to really get to grips with it and have discovered a few things I don't think have been widely covered particularly relating to the screen and the camera that's coming up this Sunday on textmessage at textmessage.co.uk or simply techpodcast.uk and this next one is from Tim Sweeney though not directed at dailytechnewshow in any way but he did follow up on Twitter on his criticisms of the universal windows platform saying yesterday and we think it's important to note he wrote here is Andrew clinic's technical presentation on the universal windows platform installation linked to a channel nine dot msdn article one click install signing by any see a root and that last part is the thing that made me go okay that that's the big one so if I want to distribute a universal windows platform I don't have to send it to Microsoft and have them sign it I can I can use a see a root to sign it hey and as long as we're talking about that you might as well throw out let's encrypt yeah might as well I mean don't throw it out use it go yeah I mean throw it out there's and you know yeah yeah a to sign your cert and actually yeah for signing anything that it's a it's a great program if I wish I hadn't already paid for my certificate for the year I'm signing my win 32 binaries and blood for the longest time but now this makes it easier blood magic it's the most secure DRM doctor m all right well thank you Darren kitchen this was a rollicking good show man I love this where can people find more threat wire if you're interested in this kind of stuff it's not that tinfoil hat but threat wire net or actually find all the shows over at where does as well as there's a new series of minutes so if you're looking to learn one of the frameworks that is most popular amongst security researchers penetration testers that's a great one with our friend moobix there's also pineapple university and hack five and many other awesome shows for you to find a plethora of content over a decade of podcasting so you got a lot of catching up to do yes excellent and Len Peralta we gave you a canary you know you guys always throw these stories at me which are really very esoteric at best very difficult to do but the nice thing this week you gave me a little bit of a heads up on it and wanted to kind of inform you what was going on with it which was I appreciate I wanted to try to do something that sort of you know felt right to me and this is what I did came up with a little reddit guy the reddit guy is attending the funeral of the canary which is sort of sad I think you nailed it yeah no joke this is like when you go to those clip art sites and you're like I need something that represents eulogy like wow I know that you get the tough days because we end up talking about a lot of hacks and stuff on Friday and I got a hand at you that one is spot on Len oh thank you thank you so much you know it was it's kind of encapsulating into one image that I think is just you know that just sort of works for everything so but yeah you never see the reddit guy cry so here he is he's crying I mean this is just the entire story I'm not kidding you like you did a bang up job you've got the report in there the little RIP reddit warrant canary yeah it's got a little tombstone canary with the X for I's dead canary yeah it's for you feeling for the bird if you've been interested in this story at all you have to go to lemperaltostore.com and look at this it's amazing and possibly pick one up for yourself yeah please do and you know also I want to mention that you can get these as digital files you can go to my Patreon which is patreon.com forward slash Len and back me there it's for my speed drawing and stuff like 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you I was really worried because I had some other ideas and they just got too wordy and I'm like there really isn't anything you really need to say other than a sad day even if they weren't there you don't have to read them to get it yeah something has happened and the reddit guy is very very sad plus the reddit guy he's fun to draw oh my god so beatmaster always sends me a paste bin of all the links that he has put in to the second screen on diamondclub.tv every day and because it's April Fool's Day he thought he'd have a little fun today it's in Comic Sans nice you know beatmaster is also killing it with the titles yeah isn't over until the fat canary dies whoa I know was it a fat canary we'll never know it's dead so showbot titles yeah that privacy isn't over until the fat canary dies I'm loving it there are a lot of really good ones canary the subreddit brackets title redacted google drops the mic drop fans doing lines for tesla I just like the application of that one too there's a subreddit of this canary has kicked the bucket Patriot Perth disease act games 2016 fans doing lines for tesla 35,000 for a new car I think that's W Scott is one just making fun of me because I don't know what anything cost are you like rain man no I just I literally thought that new cars are typically around 30 grand aren't they no how much are they a new car 25 23 25 don't ask Roger and I we never buy new cars I've never bought well if you want like a new car you're looking at 20 no but like a nice car I mean it's a tesla so it's like so are you saying like if you want a luxury automobile you should be paying well over 30 not luxury but like what's between like a Lexus and a Toyota what's in between that the cheap Lexus or the high-end Toyota okay I've never bought a new car so I have no idea just stick to the new BMW cars anyway which one the three series a new one the electric one the i something that looks like the one they have the BMW logo I just listen to the Chevy commercials and they tell me what to like I want to put you on that show what's the show that's like are you making a frayed where you're not naked but they just stick you out in the boonies and you have to survive until you get picked up by the way breaking news I'm an idiot I didn't realize all paste bins are comic sans today that is paste bins oh to be honest so which title privacy isn't over until the fact that you guys I mean it's landsliding although can you read the subreddit it's pretty good too efficient very in the subreddit now let's go with the one that's getting the most votes we'll be democratic this once I heard that you guys weren't being democratic the other day and I was sticking around at the end of the show and then I heard we'll be back tomorrow with Len and Darren and I was driving back to the warehouse and I was like oh right right I'm on the show tomorrow that's funny that's funny yeah that's me that's my name oh man are we off the air right now no we're still yeah I'm waiting to export here and then upload and then we'll go off oh tour belongs on a museum that's nice tour belongs in a museum because I'm just reminded of the Indiana Jones reference oh yeah no that's great that deserves more than an honorable mention that deserves my vote that deserves a reenactment well done another pizza man I can't believe you guys didn't talk about this Scarlett Johansson robot wait what some guy in Japan built a robot the greatness of Scarlett Johansson story came out today it's no but this is real there's a picture open right here there's a picture and it's the internet it's the first time it pops up it has to be fake oh man do you think this is fake oh it's kind of creepy there's actually a working prototype of this thing it's just basically and it's a much I don't think Scarlett Johansson is that tiny what happens where's the link first of all somebody in IRC please paste but that's that brings up an entire ball of wax when it comes to like trademark yeah what do you do oh the right to publicity and owning your image yeah I mean I don't think there's any copyright on your image as far as making it for personal use though but if you were to sell it without her permission I don't think this is just for his own personal use it gets a little creepier when you put it that way also I would say it looks more like Kristen Stewart from the Twilight movies than Scarlett Johansson yeah he doesn't have the eyes right he doesn't really have much right the proportions are off you just look at you stuck an adult woman's head on a tween's body it's kind of creepy he just called us Scarlett Johansson there's really little reason why we don't have Frank Sinatra in more movies right now with CG the way it is so I'm just saying you can make robots of his claim to frame was music he wasn't the greatest actor yeah alright Gene Kelly you just know that name because you watch singing in the rain that's not true, I was just watching a bunch of Gene Kelly movies including singing in the rain including that one of course there is a reddit that T2T2 posted which is pretty funny I could spend hours looking at this robot reddit cleaning up crappy robots is what it's called well so does the robot do anything or is it just mannequin it has limited arm movements and stuff it just looks like it looks like a weird 1980's animatronic from Disneyland when you go to the hall of residence hmm so well maybe that's the whole idea is like they're going to revamp Mr. Lincoln right and then throw on a little Scarlett Johansson there with it hey you gotta get to the kids her hands go down to her knees like a gorilla that's true on the robot on the robot the thing winks too that's kind of creepy yeah her arms are really long that's the creepiest wink there is very little about that that isn't creepy oh my gosh there was this show on the learning channel was all about robots and it was guys who spent all this money to make sex robots and stuff like that but the weirdest part of it nobody was talking about sex robots well this on the show but the one weird thing about that show was that there was a segment on the show about this guy he really wanted a robot girlfriend but he wanted her to be real so he had a girlfriend and he made the girlfriend act like a robot in front of him and it was the weirdest thing where was this guy at it was on this show about people and robots did he have a thing for robots he had a thing for robots so his girlfriend would sit on the bed next to him he would say something like power up and she would sit there and go powering up for you or something and so he'd say like they killed me Mal they killed me with a sword but I got the last laugh does he make her dress up like a transformer for a Halloween and then turn into like a car it was a strange relationship very strange relationship and I'm one to judge anyone's relationship but I thought it was very strange I mean you know not traditional it was just weird he would like open her eyes flicker her open her eyes and she would start talking like an automaton I would totally like you know what this isn't doing it for me I'm gonna move on if you were the girl yeah it's like no well maybe it worked both ways maybe maybe they were both into it maybe she wanted a stilted girlfriend and she wanted a emotionally odd but that's the point that was the weirdest thing it's like you have a human being in front of you and you want her to act like a robot the weirdest ones the weirdest ones I've seen are the ones who act like juveniles in their own relationship they just have I saw this one was on the BBC like weird it was done in around 2006 or 2005 and just kind of not weird fashions but kind of these weird lifestyles that these people have and one of them was like a 30 something year old programmer who just wanted to be a big baby he paid for someone to build a script he would dress up like a baby and he paid this older woman to pretend to be like his mother like it was just like the oddest thing ever you see this like you know 30 something year old guy running around and you know I guess adult divers I've heard Roger tell this story before yeah I've actually seen those I hate to cut it short but I'm out of the posts wait what are you implying I'm not implying anything I'm actually trying not to by the fact that I just now happened to be out of the post I'm done publishing the show so we're gonna cut the broadcast but thanks everybody for watching it's an entirely coincidental timing goodbye