 Welcome to Toffy TV, it is the match preview of Everton vs Chelsea 12-30 Gwreson Park at the weekend joined by Stee and Andy. As expected, a managerial change at Everton. It's, I mean, we've done stuff over the last few weeks and said it just feels inevitable that you've been in a couple of times as well. I've decided that that was enough to make me decide that I'd be very Ronald Coom and like, a five to the feet result in the sack the next day, as it should probably. I guess it makes this preview a little bit more difficult, though, from our perspective, because at the time of recording this, we don't know whether it's going to be Duncan Ferguson in charge, whether it'd be David Unswet, whether it's a new manager, David Moog. It's hard to guess who they pick as well, you know, especially if it's Unswet or Duncan, you know. You know, you spoke to Duncan here, but it's hard to know what type it's for, if I probably want to play in terms of formations. We know that Unswet likes to miss out on the field, of course, but it's interesting. So it is hard to do it, but Chelsea, you know, they don't quite want to do this season, they play well, so it should be an interesting game. I mean, staying some respects because they've taken that decision all the longest decision ever. Does that mean, do you think, going into the ground now, the fan base will be, like, reinvigorate? I'm not putting it all on mark, as we know, I'm not, but what I mean is a change sometimes, fleshings, things like that. So do you think people will go to the game now with the renewed, come on, we can do this, we need to be with the team? Yeah, I think a lot of it will depend on probably using charge as well. I think even though, I think there's a massive difference between David Unswet being in charge and Duncan Ferguson being in charge. Obviously we've had the Unswet period before, it was obviously very up and down for him, it was a tough period for the club at the time as well. But I think, obviously with the status that Duncan's got, he's always had a really good relationship with the fans as well. I do think it will change the atmosphere for Saturday if Duncan was in charge, I think the fans would be right behind him. I think it'd be good to see a fresh face on the touchline for the fans as well. I feel like he'd be adding every ball with the team type of thing as well, cos he's just that type of card. You see him when we score goals, he's up and about. I know obviously a lot of people are a bit mixed with Duncan as well. But I do think it could definitely change the atmosphere if a silver was in charge. What would the atmosphere have been, especially after Wednesday night, if you'd picked the same old team, your Snidlans, your Sigartons, everyone would be like this again. I just feel like it transforms to the players as well and the players confidence is pretty low at the moment anyway. But I do think if it's Duncan in charge, I think you'll see a massive difference with the crowd on Saturday. Obviously, like you just said there, we don't know who it is. But how do you think the crowd have reacted if it was David Moyes? Do you still think it'd be a part of the scene? I don't want to speak, I know people are on social media, they don't want them back, but I think they're back. It'd only take a couple of performance where Evan put a bit more commitment and effort in, which Moyes was teams were known for. Then I think it turned around quite quickly. I think Evan's fans forget that. A baseline expectation for Evertonians is commitment, where, great. I think Moyes can't guarantee it, but he will demand that of the players. I think that goes so long with Evertonians. I think that a bit of discontent with this team, especially after last night, is the fact that there doesn't seem to be heart or any desire in the team. I think a match you create, even if it was a Duncan Faggs, and I think the fans would get behind them quickly. I think if it was a Faggs, nor it was a Moyes, then I think even in Markham, at times we've changed it up, for example, when you play 4-3-3 at one game, and people are like, well, this is interesting. When the team sheets are alien, it's a bit of a mystery added to it, I think the fans are open to things. But when it's the same old, same old in the match, the same old, same old, I think that's when the expectation comes that we're not going to do well. I think the fans will be open minded once a new manager comes in. As far as Chelsea can say, having a good season, a lot of people felt they were vulnerable this season, and they still may be, they've just had the Frank Lampard, they've made a good start to the season. They've got 19 goals in the seven away game, so just under three again, isn't it? So, very dangerous, Tamiya Ibrahim, banging four, scoring goals left Leighton Centre. So, do you can hurt us without a shadow, without candy? Yeah, I've been impressed. I've watched a bit of Chelsea this season, just to see how Lampard would do as a manager. Obviously, I've watched them a bit with Derby last season as well. I've been really impressed with them. I've impressed with the way that he's got an identity of the footballer, the way they're trying to play, and how he's promoting the youth. Youth players like Tamori, Mount, Ibrahim. A lot of people always said that Ibrahim would be just a championship player, and he's obviously the second top scorer with Vardio, I think. So, I think he's done a really, really good job there. Under circumstances, they have been able to buy any players as well. They lost the best player in Hazard last season as well. So, I think you've got to give them a bit of credit for how he's got them playing, and how he's tried to, he's stuck to his gun drive, promoting youth, I suppose, as he said he would. Andy, being impressed with them? Yeah, I have, but I think that I, and other analysts and other people who watch the game, I think a lot of people underestimate the focus on the fact that they're playing young players, and that became the story. But when you look at the squad, most of that team were a championship under Antonio Conti. It's not that far removed. There's a lot of experience there, a lot of winning mentalities there. So, I think there's a nice blend of Chelsea, and actually they've basically got a free hit at a season where they can develop players and then buy our players. So, you know, Chelsea would probably be good for a title, and it's season on season time. I think another way the Lampards can be that manager, there's slight flaws in the Lampards game. You saw it in the championship with Darby last season. But I've got a good squad, you know, I really do like Tamori, Mesa Mount, good player, Tammy Abrams, a big fan. I think, you know, a lot of people didn't think he was good enough for that. When he was in the championship, which has been crazy now you laugh, but he's a goal scorer, you need goals scorers, and he scores goals. And the good thing with Lampard as well, he's got the fans onside straight away. It always helps having a club legend, like United had it through that little spell with SoulShark at the start as well. But I've watched him in some of the bigger games, and even when they've got beat, the fans have clapped them off because they've seen what they've tried to do. Which is a big thing in football, because you don't get time these days with a lot of fans, unfortunately. But they could see, I think what's amazing is Liverpool, and to be honest with you, they batted Liverpool at times, but they just couldn't get the ball in the net. But they come off even though they've got beat the fans, singing at the end, singing his name, clapped the players off, and I think that's always a good sign if you can get your fans on board as well. Yeah, what he brings is that Chelsea spirit, I suppose. There's a Chelsea legend, there's a fantastic time as a player there. The fans love him. He's gone in, and he's just said it was almost a free hit on able to get to any one transfer mark, and he's brought the kids, some kids through, and he's changed as another one, he gets on and other young players. So they've got some good players there, haven't they? And he's tried to give them a go as well, and so much so that the likes of A-Bram have kept Jury off the team. Last Saturday, sorry, they batted West Ham, and West Ham had four shots and one one-nil, and it was just one of those days, but I still think that they were applauded off in that. So if you've got someone who the fans can get behind, you will be supported there, and I suppose that shines the spotlight back on us, because it's been a while since we've had that, it's been a while since we've had an identification with a manager, really. I mean, Marko Silver for whatever reason, it didn't happen. The club, in my opinion, didn't do enough to sell him to people. Ronald Cooman was a leaf anyway, the fans didn't really like Sam Allardyshire. You'd have to go back to Roberto Martinis, and the first season of fans they'd get behind him, and before that was David Moiser, who we did most times, even if we'd lost, if we'd had a go, he still got clapped off. There'd be some frustration at times. So I think if you've got that at a club, it helps, doesn't it? And Chelsea have said, and they've got that scoring lots of goals, playing well, I mean, to make your mum's goal in midweek. It's fantastic. Cool as shit, she's got it now. He's been involved in six of Chelsea's last goals away from home. I've got Billy Gilmore, he's got from Rangers, he's a crack on the field. Even William's been playing a lot better recently as well. Mark Wales, at the centre back, so they call, they've smartly built their team from, you know, and maybe these kids never would have got the chance if the ban happened before, they are, and it's sort of, Chelsea's fell into a really good situation in that sense. I think you mentioned Rhys James, what a footballer. I think he's going to be, it turns out, Alexander Alford, the England spot eventually, he's much better defender, much better physically. Watch them against policy, against aha, he had them in his pocket. He's a superb talent. Championship team. I don't want to bring this back to everyone, but Loan and players out to the right teams developing the sort of works, you know what I mean? And that's a thing that Evan could lay in from, a lot of teams could lay in from Chelsea in that sense. But they're going to be a tough opposition, they've got a number of goalscores, they've got experienced players as well, they can get them through games. Obviously William's played reasonably well this season. Pedro's still knocking around. They've got some good players, you can come off the bench and cause problems. Goodson, you know? I think there'll be a bit of renewed hope and I think if you pick the right side, if you put Richard in the right place, if you put maybe Keen or Johnnie Carver in the right positions with Bernard and the Wobby supplying them, I think, you know, the midfields are still an issue. But if you tailor them properly, this is the problem, we would be naive against Liverpool. If you tailor them a field and make them do minimal jobs, just a basic job and keep them sitting deep to protect the defence and we'll have chances. Now Chelsea are not the most defensive, because they see the goals this season. We can pick up points in this game, obviously it's going to be tough. I haven't won six of the last ten home games against Chelsea, which is better than what you think. More than we had in our previous 24, so on a decent little goal. Definitely there for the taking at the back. I still don't think he's settled on a definite two. Rudi has not been. He's been swapping. He's put Zuma in the Timorian to bring Christian in. He's woken for that perfect pass. I know he's put Aspergletta back to left back now and put James up right back tonight. I don't think he's settled on his back four. I don't think he's settled on his back four. He's got two players for every position up in the ring. I'm not too set on the goalkeeper either. He's probably going to be out with the broken hands. That's one of the... I think Lampard's brought him back. When he was at Inter, he was one of the best midfielders in the world. I think when he was at Real Madrid, he started playing within himself, because he didn't want to lose his place on the team. He lost his confidence. I think Lampard's given that back, and he's been a really good player. I didn't see it when he was at Dortmund. I think he was a good player. I thought he had some tricks, and he could get inside the box. But his final ball and decision-making wasn't quite there. Since he's come to Chelsea, he's been absolutely excellent. He's got in lately and being brilliant. He was saying he didn't have a break over pre-season. That's why Lampard left him out for a couple of weeks to give him a rest. He's resting him up. He probably could have done with a break. After the run of six consecutive clean sheets of gooders, we've actually only had one in the last six now. It's the first time we'll play a Premier League game in December in the bottom three since 2003. It's a tough game, but like you just said there, get the crowd engaged in the game. Start from a solid base, like we did last season. Last season, we beat them at home. We were in great form. They come together in the first 20 minutes. We were under the caution, but Hazard hit the post, and he was picking holes in us. We grew into the game and the crowd got involved, and then we came out for a second half and blitzed them. This isn't a team that's unbeatable by any threat. They're a good side, and they're playing well. But they're a team that gives you opportunities. We did OK against Leicester. I think the big difference will be, obviously the team will be different, because it's a different voice. The players have got to react after the hammering in the derby. I think the crowd might be more engaged, and therefore, with that comes renewed hope and a different way of playing. If we can get involved in the game, we do have players that can hear them, and hopefully the crowd will pull us through. It's no excuses now for the players. The players have just had a manager sack because of their performance, basically. Obviously, we've had our criticisms of the ex-manager, but it's down to them now. I think there will be a different stand that's expected by the new manager, wherever it may be. They're going to ask for different things. I think Marco maybe wasn't ruthless, or maybe at times a bit too nice, maybe not he wasn't behind the scenes. Or it doesn't seem to be a responsibility on the players' shoulders. It didn't see a responsibility for our performances. I think if a new manager does come in, whether it's Dunk, whether it's David Dunsworth, whether it's David Moyes, whether it's mystery option number four, whoever it may be, then there will be different expectations, and I think that will be good. I think the crowd needs to get behind us. Obviously, we've lost the crowd a little bit with the results of the season and the four and the bottom three. I think it's a false position for now, but hopefully we start a new chapter. It's still the same project. It's not a new project. I know people don't like that way, but Marcel Brands is still steering the project. It just requires a new manager to freshen things up, and hopefully we'll get back on our feet soon. I think we've definitely got better players than where we are by a mile. And even with limited sense of midfield options, if whoever it is in charge went with, say, Snidl and David's and the Wobie for the argument, say, as a three and just said to Snidl and Protect, the others have the legs. And then we did use Cyfrasialus and Moise Keen and Bernard for argument, say, we can cause them real problems, I think, you know, down there. Did you play on the counter here? Did you just have to let them over commit and then we'll pick them on the counter? It's not hard to get gooders and going from our point of view. All we ever ask for from players is hard work, fight, determination. Once you do that, if the players do that, the fans will get behind them. No doubt about it. Against knowledge, we didn't do that. No, no. And we're going into a spell of games now, where there's five games that are all tough, but I think we can take points in most of them. So it's up to us now to... And, you know, if they do that, then by the time we go to Manchester City on New Year's Day, the league could look very different and then we set ourselves up for a better second half of the season, but it has to start now. We just had the two of the toughest away games in the division. We lost both of them. It's a chance to now to bounce back three defeats on the run. It's all about... Need to get something from the game. All about reacting now and taking it forward. It's a must-not lose, basically. Let's see what happens. Let's see what happens. 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