 live on the Metal Voice with my buddy Rich Cattino from Metal Asylum also Metal Hall of Fame and also writer for Brave Words and today we are going to, Rich just set it all up, you do that while I do some settings over here just tell us what we're going to be reviewing. We are unboxing the Mali Crew Shout the double 40th anniversary box set this is my original though so but it's in your box set here. So there's all kinds of goodies Jimmy's got it still sealed so he's going to take off the plastic right we're going to check it out and talk about the audio because I have you have it to the original CD that they remastered in 99 I want to say. Somewhere around there. There it is there it is guys so this is again in this box set but as a paper sleeve. Yep. In this box set and then there's all sorts of other goodies. Yeah, so this is what we're going to do exactly where Rich said we are going to unbox the 40th anniversary of Mali Crew shout at the devil and just a little bit of background for everybody this has been is a limited edition box set. LPs cassette CD it has everything this is everything you need BMG recently announced year of the devil a multi configuration celebration of shout at the devil the centerpiece of year of the devil is a limited edition super super we shall say box set, which features a newly remastered album on LP CD cassette also included are the reproductions or reproductions of the original seven inch signal singles to young to fall in love looks that kill among a pentagram seance board devil board with the metal planchette, metal seven inch adapter album artwork. Basically it's coming out October, the 27th as the 40th anniversary. I'm going to rip it all open. Cool. Rich, you can speak to the audio aspect because I have not compared the two right speak to the audio. I speak to what's inside the box. Okay, so you want to do that as we get to the different items you can open up you want to open up the box first and show a couple of the goodies and we'll talk about our audio as you pick those things. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. First of all, let's talk about what the heck this thing is. Definitely a box. I got this in the mail yesterday. I had absolutely no idea what the hell it was. I forgot about it. So it comes in the mail. Just everybody understands how thick this is. What do you want to compare this you want to compare this to a CD. It's like, it's like the rat and the docking reissues that they did but it's it's like two of those put together. That's how big the boxes. This is heavy. I would give this four pounds, five pounds maybe maybe. Yeah, there you go. And then just everybody sees again how thick it is. Yeah. It smells fresh. And they list all the items. I always smell it. I always like to smell because of our youth. It was like it was like behind the records when we bought them back in the 80s. Right. When you open them up. Look at this. Look at this. I have just a little cut here. I have not opened it yet. It is. We were going to not only look at it, but we're going to smell it. Okay. Like back in the day. Because back in the day. That's what we did. Yeah. Right. It's not like new records. This is the first rip. Here it comes. You guys ready? I have to get a first rip because you know what always happens. You're kind of like, I can't rip it. I can't open it. It is shrink wrap. There we go. As you're doing now. Jimmy, I'll show you that. Like I was showing you before the original vinyl. And I still actually have the insert that it came with back in the 80s. Remember the insert. I got the vinyl. Yes. I have the vinyl somewhere too. Yeah. Still have that. Very good. Right off the bat. The feel. You have it in back of you, right? Yeah. It's right here next to me. Look at this feel. Look at this feel. The feel feels like. It's got a little texture. It's got texture. That's the right word. It doesn't. It's not slippery. Like it's going to fall out. You're going to fall out of your hands. On the back of it. It has the insert. Like the album. Old album insert. Right. Look at that. Yep. And it's, it's really a box set. I mean, it's a box. Yeah. It's a set. So let's look at this. Even the side. That's a nice decor. Yeah. Very, very nice texture. There it is. Yeah. There's the back of it. Kind of looks like a. Nice. Nice. Nice box. Beautiful. Do we know how much this is somewhat going for? Yeah. This is going for something like 350 a year less on Amazon. Canadian. That's about $2,000. No, no. It's probably about, I would guess about for 25 Canadian. Okay. And the year and euros and the British pounds. It's probably like, I don't know. 20 bucks. 20 year and 20 pounds. All right. There we go. All right. Let's unbox this puppy. Let's unbox her. Unbox it. Okay. Oh, wow. Wow. Look at that. Right. This is the Ouija board. They definitely made sure they incorporated our mom. Right. Look at this. The Ouija. Taken from the French word. We. Look at that. So you can actually do a seance. I don't know if the original loud mad this, but I think it's not. No. The only thing that. In the top part. In the top part. There is a Ouija. Okay. If you're into that kind of stuff. Okay. Let's, let's see what we got on the first layer. Oh, a pentagram. Oh my gosh. Look at this. This is just some sort of cardboard pentagram. You're going to scare your parents with. Like back in the day, they're scared of this. Right. Yeah. That was on, you know, that was on the cover. Yeah. Yeah. So Jim Harrison saying it's a 350 Canadian or 377 Canadian. So it's around there. Look at that. Look at that. That's very thick. Yeah. Nice, nice reproductions of these things. They're not lightweight at all. But here's a little fun fact here. I just noticed when I was looking at the. The merch thing that came with the original one. Yes. Pentagram is a regular star. If you look at the, when they did it on the album and then the, you know, everything else. It was pointed down. So this. When they did this back in the day, it wasn't like that. Interesting little difference. I'll tell you. The album's title and the band's use of the pentagram caused a great deal of controversy. We're going to have to remember this. Yeah, of course. And I'm assuming they went from the slant. To the straight up, right? Yeah. And it was also, I think the song. No, from the PR. MRC. The. Let me look it up. What song was it? Maybe. Bastard. Nice. Bastards. Yeah. Bastard. That song was on the list. From Tipper Gore. And I remember the looks that kill video. I've had the pentagram in it too. It's fun. And the fire in the middle. Yeah, yeah. So they had the whole presentation going on. And if you want to even go back further, Nikki Sixx brought it from the band sister. You know what theatrical band that Blackie Lawless was in. So it was kind of, he lifted it from there. He brought it into Mali crew and sort of that. And what was going on at the time? Mali crew, I'm not sure if you saw them open for Ozzie. No, I didn't see that. Back in 84. I did not see it because when Ozzie came here, it was rad that was opening up. Oh, cool. Yeah. In 84. The us festival, the album was released. And the us vessel was not too long after that. Or it was a little bit before. I don't remember the exact timing of it all. Yeah. But they were virtually unknown to the metal world. Right. Aside from the West Coast, you know, all the LA clubs and stuff. That's right. And to me, when, you know, I saw the us vessel, I saw Mali crew. I kind of heard about them in a way and I go, this is interesting. Yeah. As long as well as quite right. Yeah. Right. I mean, and it was like in the morning when they were playing. So it was kind of like they're wearing all their gear. Yeah. And when the scorching sun and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The MRC. Yes. It was bastard. And that was targeted by a tipper going back in the day. Any other fun facts? There were a lot of demos that have been re-released. Like we mentioned right here. Right. Which comes included. If we have that in that box set when you get to it. Yeah. Yeah. And let's, let's start opening her up and we could talk about the music as well. Cool. So here we go. Here's another. This is a second one. Second pentagram. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Then we have this. What's going on here. And we got the splatter. Splatter one. Yeah. So we're already at three sort of cardboard. You know, pop outs or whatever you want to call them. Design. Yeah. Designs. So again, rush. And let's open her up from here. Look at this. Here we go. Wow. Look at this. This is nicer. Do you have the original album there? Yeah, I do. Mamma Mia. Look at this. Yep. Same opens up gatefold as well. Let's, let's compare the original. So you're saying this is a replica of the original album. Yeah. Cause it even comes with well, aside from the insert, when you get to the vinyl, it has all the lyrics, you're eating everything. So this was the original and that comes in that too. Now for my memory, the original album that I had, I think it didn't open up, at least not my version. Oh really? Maybe I'm wrong about this. Maybe, you know, I've forgotten because it's kind of lost in my parents' house. So I don't remember exactly. Maybe certain pressings did. I don't remember. Maybe it did. Maybe it didn't. Maybe I just do not remember. But look at this. Let's look at the original. You have the red on the back there. Yeah. Yeah. Look at that. It's an exact replica. You know what's cool about that? I kind of like that. I do like the sort of, you know, let's try to like make it, let's reproduce what doesn't exist anymore. I kind of like that. Right. Exactly. And you get the lyrics too. It's always good to have lyrics. And wow, man. The sort of the texture. This is beautiful. Hold on. Yeah. Focus here. Yeah. Look at that. Wow. Yeah. Let me see the back of the original. Let me see the back of the original. Yeah. The rear masters are very nice. Wow. Look at, okay, with only this part here is a little bit different. I don't know. Right. It's a little shinier. It's got the little bit of gloss to it. Yeah. But the rest of it is very matte, you know, but it's very shiny. Yeah. Tom Werman who actually did produce this. We should also give a shout out to him. Yeah. We have seen great. Yeah. A lot. Look at that. So just tell me about when you put this album on, tell me it sounds great. What were some differences you made? Well, just like when we talked about the docking ones and the rat ones, there's really not too much of a difference because they really did sound good back then too. Just from the 80s, like the rat and the docking had a little more high end, right? A little more troubling. Yeah. But with the Motley crew and those albums too, it's a little bit like tighter now. So it's not so much high end. It's a little more bass and drums, a little bit fuller, I guess you could say. Okay. But it doesn't have to worry. And now we're comparing the original LP Yeah. To this newly remastered, re-released LP, correct? Right. Exactly. So it's just maybe a little more tighter. Still have the, you know, you still hear your drums, you still got the cymbals. Vince is still on top of everything, but it's just a little warmer, you could say. A little bit tighter, brought in a little bit closer without it getting muddy or anything. Still, you know, very clean and clear, but punchy and heavy and crunchy, you know. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the thing about vinyl is over time, it sort of loses a little bit of that sound quality. The vinyl itself gets warped. Right. So it's nice to have a fresh new LP. Right, especially from, you know, the 80s because they were so thin back then. Yeah. We should talk about that too. You know, this is very, look at how thin this is. These things were, everybody, everything from the 60s, 70s and 80s, everything was so like paper thin, the vinyl. Yeah. Let's talk about that. Let me just feel how thick it is because I've noticed that all new LPs that are being released are new vinyls. Wait a second. Wow, wow, wow. Here, look at this. Oh, the color. Yeah. Very cool. Holy mackerel. Look at that. I didn't even, I should have opened that first. So let's look at the original one. Let's look at the original one. Okay. Yeah. Typical. This here, look at that. It does not, does it bend? Let me be careful here. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Okay. It's a little bit. Yeah. Here is very, very thick. Yeah. Right. If you look at mine, even over time, if you look at it, it almost gets a little bit of a wobble to it. Yeah. Not this. It's not completely straight across anymore. You know what? It is very, somebody said hypnotic. Look at that. Rich. It's a cool splatter effect. Yeah. All these, all these great masters that everybody's doing when they do different colors like, did you ever see the sabotage ones? No. Those look great too. All the different color vinyls. Okay. Let's put this away. This is so far on lovin' us. This is great as a, not only is it great to have one of the best, this is the best Molly Crue album. This is the quintessential Molly Crue album. It's still my all time favorite. And this, the sound overall, just the band itself, you know, there's a little bit of punk there. There's glam and there's metal. But it's very metal. It's so metal. I love it. Okay. Let's see what else we got now. I'm taking this part out. What is this? That is those demos. Oh, on a separate vinyl. Look at that. Yeah. Let's talk about these demos a little bit. Cool. Which we're familiar with a few of them because they previously appeared on that remaster. Okay. Right. The crucial crew. Right. What do you think about Shout at the Devil, that demo in general? I mean, if people have heard it. Yeah. It sounds pretty good. I like these demos from Prue because these are pretty well produced. They sound terrible. You know, you can actually hear everything going on. There's a pretty decent mix to these. Wow. Wow. That's pretty cool. Very thick as well. So this is the first time that these demos have been all together or put together on vinyl. Correct. As a sort of single album. Yeah. Maybe there's bootlegs of these somewhere in the world. I don't know. But here we go. Molly Crue. Shout at the Devil. Yeah. I like Shout at the Devil, but I like the actual album version better than the demo. Same here. I think I, but I would say yes, it's a cool raw alternate. Shout at the Devil. But I do prefer the original. Then you have looks that kill. Again, a cool alternate and the phrasing of the vocals are a little bit different. I wrote about that when I sent him my review to Brave Words. I really like what Vince does on this albums because it's alternate deliveries to some of the lyrics and how he, he pronunciate some things and it's really almost, it goes back to too fast for love almost the way he does. You know, sing some things. Very cool. I like it. But the music is still, you know, it's still got that metal punch in everything like the whole record Shout at the Devil has. Yep. Yep. Knock him dead kid. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, it's not bad. It's not bad. I do prefer the album version. So do I. Too young to fall in love. The demo, right? Yeah. That's on this here, I believe. I like the album version better than that one too. Yeah. Yeah, me too. Hotter than hell. And now, which was on the next album. Theater of Pain. Theater of Pain. That one. That's the one I know. This one has less reverb. Yeah. Where Theater of Pain is a more glossy, more polished. Yeah. Even his scream. It's sort of like he, his scream sounds so faint on the, on the album version on Theater of Pain. Where on this one is scream is coming full force. Yeah. You can actually hear it and get, you know, you know, all pumped up when you hear it. I do. And this is a little bit raw too. It's a little heavier. I think I do like this hotter than hell or louder than hell better than the Theater of Pain version. I think so too. Yeah. What about I Will Survive? That one's okay. I could see why that didn't make an album. Okay. Yeah. I like it. I like it. And then Black Widow, which was released on the red, white and crew compilation. I remember that. Which was in 2005. So we did hear that. I like it. I like Black Widow. I do too. I like Black Widow. That's a song that could have fit well on, I think Shout. Yeah. So overall, thumbs up to this. You're saying in terms of audio. What about audio? When you compare this to this year? It's kind of the same. There's not much of a difference. Okay. Yeah. I didn't notice much of a difference. But like I said, these demos, usually demos a lot of time sounds terrible. These are good sounding demos. They are. They are. I agree. I mean less of the gang vocals on Shout at the Devil and looks that kill. Because you're going into the studio, you're going to put a little bit more of the back vocals in there, right? Right. But I would agree with you, the Shout at the Devil songs are a lot better than the demos. But you know what? These are pretty good alternates. They are. Like I said, looks that kill is really cool. I like the way Vince sings. It's different. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. All right. What do we got here? That we got the... Well, I had... I opened that up already. You got... You got the tarot cards. Tarot cards, yeah. Well, I'll open them up. There's a Mick who's no longer in the band, right? A magician. You got Tommy Lee, the lover. He's like Paul Stanley here. Yeah. Or the star child. And the son. That's cool. And did you ever notice... I spoke to Thor, you know, this whole Mad Max look. Right. There is a coincidence of the Mad Max look coming from Thor who had that Mad Max look. Yeah. Prior to Molly Crue. Now again, I don't know if they lifted it or not or maybe Mad Max was very popular at the time. Yeah. I remember... Everybody kind of lifted it. All those clothes were in head parade or in the circus. You remember that? And all the ads? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, Thor kind of used that Mad Max look, but then again, Mad Max came out around that time too. So... Yeah. You can see how popular culture sort of bled into the music culture. Into the metal, yeah. But it was a great look. And you know, the spikes and the shredded clothing and the leather and the denim and everything. It's great. And what's this here? Oh my Lord. I don't know what this is. Did you get this? Yeah. What is this? Like a... Put your pencils in here? Eamon, I guess, a little... What does it say on the label? It says it's a what. They call it. It's not a shot glass. It's a... No, this is like you put your pens in. Oh. It's a candle holder. Oh, it's a candle holder. A candle holder. So if you want to conduct a seance, there you go. There you go. Yeah. Very nice. Very nice piece. Very nicely sculpted. It's not, you know, crappy. It's very well put together. Now I had this too, back in the day. So did I. It comes with a Mali crew cassette. I'm not opening this up though. I'm sorry. No, I'm not opening this up either. I'm not either. It was worth millions. But it's cool. It's a red cassette. I don't know if you can see that, but this is a red cassette now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Wow. Very cool. Yeah. And we got a... What's in here? Oh, look. Another surprise. Do I open this up? That's where... Go ahead. You can take them out. Those are the singles. Ew. Yep. Look at that. Whoa. Look at this. Holy moly. Yeah. So we have... Well, let me open these up here. Very nicely dressed up. Yep. Collared. Whoa. Look at that. You need one of those sort of like those little stud things to play on. Yep. Yeah. I have one of those on my vinyl. Yeah. So I play these actually, Jim. Take me to the top and too young to fall in love. Okay. So tell me about those, the quality. Too young to fall in love virtually sounds the same. I don't hear the difference with the remix. Okay. I'm curious to know when that remix actually was done for this. How old that is, you know? But I don't hear a difference. And take me to the top. Sounds like it does from the debut. Yeah. You know, it'd be cool talking about the debut. It'd be good if they re-released that, but the leather records version. That'd be cool. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Cause it was... Oh, look at this one. This one's white. Yep. Side A, Looks That Kill, which was a big smash hit. I tell you, I got it all done pretty much. That was the song. That was the song. That was the song. Piece of your action. Yep. Great song too. Again, after their debut album. Yep. Which is probably the best song on the album, I would believe. I think. Very nice. Beautiful. Beautiful. Just, you know, everything is just beautiful. And one of them on the back of the too young to fall in love, you got the tour dates. And then on the back of the Looks That Kill, you got the lyrics to the song. So far. Wow. All right. Let's see what else we got here. We got a little treasure chest here. Look at that. Oh yeah. Little bag. Little bag. A change purse. Right. Hey, I'm going to go bring my change. That's underneath the handkerchief with the singles. That's on the bottom of that in the box. Okay. Let's take a look inside here. Oh, look at that. Look at that. Look at that sound here. Cool. What's in there? Some coins. What's in there? Those are the money. What do they call those? Oh, look at this. What the hell's that? What is that? Yeah. What are they called here? I'm looking at the listing here. They're called something. Sounds like something from Ikea. Oh. What's that? That would be for the Ouija board. That's for the Ouija board, right? This is for the Ouija board. What do they call this? Let's take a look here. Metal pentagram. Seven inch. I know that's not it. Metal plant planche, I guess. If somebody knows what these are used for. Metal planche, I guess. If you pronounce it that way. I guess this would be for the Ouija board. Like you kind of move it. Yeah. And this here, I don't know what you do with this, but it's. That's how you use it. That's what you use on the Ouija board. That's the thing. Oh, okay. So this is like a pick. It's sort of designed as a pick, but beautiful. Nevertheless, beautiful. Yeah. Very nicely done. Yeah. Let's put it back in the change purse. Maybe I go to the store and put all my loonies and toonies in here. We have in Canada. All right. What do we got next? Oh, look at this. I just don't really know how it's all set up. Yeah. Try to get this out. I don't want to break anything. Oh, there it is. That's the, and it comes with a CD. Yeah. So if you don't have your toonies, you can put it on. Yeah. I don't want to break anything. Oh, look at that. There it is. Yep. This version doesn't come with those demos. But if you have the crucial crew version from 99, that had some of the demos. Rich, I'm scared to open this up anymore. Okay. That's everything I think. That's it. Yeah. So you wanted to know about the CDs to compare them, right? Because I played them. Yes. Go ahead. I'm going to try to figure out what the heck I'm doing here. So there's actually on the inside. Yeah, nice. Go ahead. It gives you, it gives you room to have, you know, everything sit in there and not get it damaged. Go ahead. Um, the 99 one definitely sounds slightly different than this new one. Okay. This one also has a little more high end to it. And then this one again, like the vinyl, it's a little bit tighter sounding. Okay. Yeah. So there's a little bit of a trend. Well, it's different, you know, your differences is 99. Technology has advanced. Right. It's definitely slightly different, a little bit, like I said, a little more punchier, a little warmer, maybe. Okay. Yeah. All right. How would you compare the CD quality to the vinyl, like the new CD to the new vinyl? What would you say? I think the CDs always come out with a little more of your high end and your trouble without losing your bottom end. Okay. But the vinyl, I think it preserves that and presents it a little bit more with your, your little bit of a tighter transfer, right? And you got your bass and your drums, but you can still hear your cymbals and the punchiness and everything. It doesn't, it doesn't lose that. It just feels a little bit, like I said, a little bit tighter. Okay. I felt the same thing with the rat ones and the same thing with the Dawkins. Great. Um, is there anything else? The CDs are a little louder, by the way. The CDs come out a little bit louder too. Well, that's the technology of today, right? Versus 1999, when it was released like this, right? You know, I couldn't tell you what the cassettes, I mean, that's one thing you can't tell, but you know, cassettes is more like a small gift today than anything. Sort of like, Hey, that's cool little, uh, cassette just sort of is a souvenir in a sense. Yeah. I don't think everyone's actually cranking out their, you know, putting on their cassettes and putting them on their ghetto blasters, right? Yeah. But it's a cool little treat, we'll say. Agreed. Um, again, you know, this album went four times platinum. It's probably, you know, one of their most known albums, I think any, you know, there's just hits right across the album. Too young to fall in love. Shout out to the devil. Looks at kill. Red hot using that double bass drum. Yeah. It's just so many great tracks. Great. Carver Peltler Skelter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, knock them dead kid 10 seconds to love and danger, which has got some great drumming on that as well. Yeah. I don't know, is there anything else we can say? And a little instrumental that Mick does. God bless the children of the beast with this nice little dynamic change throughout the album. You know, Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Tom Werman who does the production. I love that guitar tone. It sounds like it has less reverb, right? It just sound, but even crunchy. It sounds crunchy. And that's where it's got a very punky feel. Like I said before, But it's probably their most metal album. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. 100% metal. Yeah. I love Vince Neil's vocal tone throughout the whole album. Yeah. And that's what separates this band from all the other bands of that era. It's his tone. You know, right away. This is Motley Crue. Yep. Yep. I think, but everybody, I think everybody from that first wave had that quality too. Like Twisted Sister didn't sound like quite right. Yes, agree. Rat didn't sound like Doc and Wasp didn't sound like, I don't know, Helix, you know, those guys from that 82 to 85 period, no one sounded the same. It's a very good point. Yeah. Then of course we're still in 83 or that, that transition into complete hair metal didn't happen yet. Right. That was like 87. 87. That's right. So we still had that raw metal, punky, catchy. And the thing about this album is so melodic. I mean, you can play it on, and that's why they played it on the radio, right? And that's where it grew the audience. They had such a huge audience because it was accessible. And that was the key word. And MTV played, looks that kill all the time. I mean, Yeah. That and live wire just all the time. And then when theater pain came out and home sweet home was the hit ballad that was even played even more. Actually rich. I will take back what I said the first time I heard of Molly crew was live wire. And I'll tell you how it was back before MTV or much music here in Canada, or maybe at the beginning of that, we didn't have that was all scrambled. It was a specialty station, right? It was all scrambled. We had one of those here too. So you had to like pay to, to be part of that channel. Right. So music video videos was really big back then. And live wire came out as a video. And people would buy video compilations. Like you go to the store and you buy, oh, here's like, you know, 20 videos by 20. Yeah, the VHS. You could rent these things or you could buy them. And I think it was either a friend or a cousin of mine who had like a video compilation. And on it was live wire. It was the first time I ever heard Molly crew. This is before looks that kill. Right. So wow, it was like, Oh, this guy's sitting his pants on fire. Yeah. Or whatever it was. I can't remember. And it was like, that was like a real punky metal song. It was. Yup. Agreed. One of my favorite songs. That's pretty much it. Anything else you like to add? No, I think we covered everything. We did really good. All right. So everybody, you know, I'll show it again. Molly crew. Shout at the devil. Yeah. They're quintessential album. One of their best albums, I would say it is their best album. Next to the first album that is. I wonder why they did this before too fast for love. Maybe they're doing something like I was saying, maybe we're getting the leather records version or something. You know, I don't know if BMG owns too fast for love because this is by BMG. Yeah. So I don't know that could be also, there could be a rights issue or licensing issue. We don't know. But you know what? I think if you've got the bucks and you're a huge collector. Yeah. You know, it's, it's worth it. You know, I, again, you know, if you're the biggest Molly crew fan and you've owned so many versions, this is a nice sort of limited edition, at least for myself. Yeah. Very well, a great presentation. It's not everything. So you only listen to CDs. You can listen to CDs. You could just sit there on top of your desk and you could say, Hey, right. Got my box set. Yeah. That's it. All right, man. Listen everybody. Have your second great Sunday. Thanks for being on rich from brave words. Not all fame. And as always, jimmy.net And buddy, we'll talk soon. Yep. See you guys next time.