 Okay. So I'm ready. Let's start anytime. Oh, yes. Okay. Do you understand what we do? A little bit. I mean, I've read about the beyond CTOS, and I'm quite interested in your take about it. But feel free to add more because we're going to publish either this video or a transcript. So some background material for the reader to understand or linking to your, I don't know, existing V-mail or your medium post or something. And that would also help. So do you need a pitch? I know what's on the V-mail. Three months ago, you have a V-mail link about a mobile application that builds this caregiver application. I think it's the same one as the one that you're referring to, right? Yes, it is. Okay. Yeah. And then now we are making IoT device. That name is LQ. And we want, I want to say, is it possible for us and our team to implement IoT LQ in Taiwan, Taipei? What kind of support do you need? I mean, the work that you do is obviously legal. So you don't need a sandbox or something. So what kind of support would you like to get? For example, we make LQ 100 peaks. Then I will give you elderly person. Then they use, because now is IoT. I think it's more disability for elderly person. Okay. To enable to change. Yes. Because they cannot use a smartphone, right? I'm listening, yes? Yes. So just we want to discuss what we can do in Taipei together. Okay. But the point is that, so this is a projector that we're talking about, right? Yeah. Yeah, right. So you have a home, essentially a home appliance, a projector that doubles as a camera and you want to people in Taipei to try it out. And so like the trial service is part of the rental slash subscription business model. And so you will like the first batch of people who would like to subscribe or at least try it out. That's my understanding, right? So usually the way to go about is to start a, I don't know, crowdfunding campaign or a subscription based crowdfunding campaign. That's by far the easiest way to reach that Taiwanese audience. There's many crowdfunding platforms in Taiwan. Maybe Scott knows a few of them. That's like the standard way. And so, and to me, the pitch seems pretty complete, pretty convincing already. So I'm not sure what else can I help before you move on to your first batch of early adopters. Yeah, we do the crowdfunding in Japan, which is September. Yes. Name is Kibidango. That's a local crowdfunding. Then I will send you the, can you see the chat? Yes, I can see the chat. Okay. Yes, I see the picture. Okay. Uh-huh. That's construction. Then Scott is a member of the BLab blockchain. Maybe you know. I know, of course. Yeah, of course I know the BLab blockchain. Yeah, we work together on air boxes before. We won't use it too. And now we are applying for the AODC, Azure open data platform. And final pitch is 28, 80s to this. Okay. There's a typo in your presentation. Swem AI should be a swarm AI. Oh, sorry. Yeah, okay. And I want to say, what is this? You mean, I mean, social sector? Mm-hmm. Yeah, the social sector like the air box or the PTT is people who care about the social issues and work together in a voluntary fashion without any like top-down commanding relationship who together brainstorms possible solutions to social problems. That's the idea of a social sector. Yeah, that I think is self-righteous user of the own data, right? Well, of course, ownership is complicated, right? When I say social sector, ownership, I mostly mean the governance, meaning that where the data goes, how the data is processed and collected, and so on. Each participant has a say. But some people mean ownership as a financial reward, like people getting due financial compensation for the data that they curate and compensate. I guess both can be named data ownership. I don't mean to monopolize the term ownership. All right. So my challenging is a business model is data selling. I'm saying as a tipping economy, tips, tips on data to the company and get that small money up to $8 up to $60 or small money. Right. So like a gratuity, the idea is that maybe for most people watching this, you know, it's not a big deal. The idea is that maybe for most people watching a YouTuber, a live stream is free, but people can pay a small amount of money to push a agenda for the YouTuber to talk about. The Taiwanese people is very aware of this kind of tipping economy. There's a thriving YouTuber scene here, and a lot of it rely on these kind of small donations and subscriptions. What do you think, Scott? From a business perspective, I think we need to form an ecosystem to support a caregiving idea. Like an internet business, users don't really pay, but somebody wants the data or somebody wants the reputation. They can pay the money. We can form a small but strong enough ecosystem to support your good idea. That's my opinion. Audrey, can we talk after the final pitch? So of course, of course, we can book another time, or I can listen to more ideas from the community also, of course. Today, Alan, he can speak Japanese, English, Taiwanese. Oh, good. So that, I think, is better. But he's in another meeting. OK. OK. I don't know what time is gone. OK. I mean, you have 40 minutes, so I mean, I can wait. And stand by and once. Can I introduce myself? Yes, of course. Sure, sure. Now I was born in Osaka, but now I'm in the satellite office. OK. And let me see. Can you see that? Yes. It's beautiful. Yeah, rural area. I have this round skirt. Very comfortable. That's great. Yes. And the back of my cat. Uh-huh. OK. Awesome. Thank you. Audrey, can you take a picture with her? Hi, of course. Yes. What should I do? Do you want to say hello? Yeah, hello. Hi. Hi. Yeah. Sea maker baby item? No. Baby sleep pillow. Hi. Baby sleep pillow? Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, she won't say hello. I'm helping myself. I'm a fashion designer before. Then I moved to the IoT. OK. OK. OK. Yes. And a little bit tough, no? 40 minutes. Did you see my pitch video? No? Yes, I did. Can you understand? Yes. So how do you support or the startup? Like my company or startup, another company, are you doing? You can't do the advisor? No, I cannot serve on the advisory board. As a public servant, I can only serve as board member for non-profit organizations. And only if the premier thinkers of diplomatic value. And how do you know the women's startup problem? The women's startup problem? WSL? The World Startup Lab. Yeah. Uh-huh. How do you know? Which, yeah, I know what you're talking about. But I do not have, like, I'm not a board member there. So I'm not sure what you're asking. There's an event that I attended. But I'm not part of the women's startup labs. There is a person called Ramona who works here at the Social Innovation Lab also. Because here is like an incubator. We incubate many social innovators. And so one of the social innovators here with the name Ramona connects to the women's startup labs. And I was, I think, invited to their annual conference to deliver a speech, a kind of keynote. But other than that, I don't really know that organization. Oh, OK. OK. How can you help in Japan? Yeah. So we have high-level talks with the medical officials and people working on the counter-pandemic strategy. We have semi-regular video calls from RCECC, the Central Epidemic Command Sansa. But I'm not regularly attending. I attend only when there is something about like data, open data, or distribution of PPEs and things like that. Then I get caught in such epicenter-to-epicenter diplomatic calls. But otherwise, I try to help by sharing the kind of work that the GovZero community works with the government to innovate on ways to counter the pandemic with the equivalent in Japan. And that's the code for Japan. So I appeared on many panels and so on with Haluseki-san, the leader of Covert Japan, making sure that the people, not only the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, which already works with Covert Japan on the dashboard and many other projects, but also like higher-level leadership in Japan, understand the importance of civic technology and social innovation. So I'm more of a kind of advocacy point of view because I cannot travel to Japan physically now. I limit myself to such interviews and panels, mostly with Covert Japan, but also with many other open source advocates. How is Osaka, Kansai area? Do you know Kansai? Yeah, I have been to Osaka on the DEF CON. That's the Ethereum community meetup. And it was almost disrupted by a typhoon, but I think the typhoon arrived on the very last day. And so people were able to still get a lot of things done. And I shared there the idea of using, for example, quadratic voting and quadratic funding in the Ethereum blockchain for blockchain governance projects, such as Gitcoin, and shared how we plan to make such Ethereum community innovations into political innovations also for the Taiwanese administration, like through presidential hackathon. And so I think many people in Osaka was interested by the idea of taking something that's a business model, a community model, in the Ethereum community and using it in so-called real-world politics. And yeah, I think that's my remembering of the DEF CON in Osaka. But I have not worked with the city-level government. It's just with the few people that went to the DEF CON in the DEF CON venue. Scott? Yes. You want to speak to Audrey? Yeah, I'm surprised to see Audrey face to face. Hi. Yes. I think same age. Age? I'm 40. I was born in 1981. Me too, me too. I'm also born in 81. In March, yeah. I think it's... 1988. How old? Scott? 1988. Ah, okay. Ah, 78, so... I don't know, 42. 42, yeah? Yeah. So let me show you my idea. I generally love the caregiving that's called system or solution. It's very benefit for people. And we've done some similar projects in Taiwan before. That's the Airbus. So... Anyway, back to the original. I was surprised we can join together with Audrey, maybe to bring future, to divide something interesting, to helping people live better. That's why I'm thinking now. Right. We have time, isn't it? Yeah. Yes. Quite long, no? Do you like fashion? Yes. So... Because I can make a growth. Anyway, I will contact and I will make sure what we want to do. Then just final pitch days. Then after, can I contact you? Yeah, of course. And if... So you're recording this meeting? Yes. If you can send me this... Video. Yeah, video. Of course, you can download it right from Skype. And if you're okay with it, you can just post it on YouTube. Then you can send it to your other colleagues. Okay. Okay, good. See you next time then. Okay. Okay, bye-bye. Bye-bye. Thank you, Scott. Thank you.