 Let's open up the pre-town meeting at 6.14 or 15, whatever it is, and one thing we had on the agenda for that is a correction to page 69 of the Rochester High School Repurposing Committee report, and there's a number on the midway down the page. This is regarding how much for every 100,000 in property value the rate would increase by an extra $16 and that should be every 160. So it'd be an increase of $160, not $16 for every $100,000. It's 150 rather than 16. That was one piece that we had noticed that was not proper in the town report and we'll open it up to everyone else out here and in terms of the pre-town meeting any concerns or questions about the the town reports go out and people's hands should have a chance to look at them yeah so I have some say relating to the High School report in the essay and what you call it is it is this appropriate to talk about that's that's why we're here yeah so I was hoping it would be here so I got to argue with them about this but I guess I'll just have to make the best I can so in this very long four-page essay on the subject I'm still very concerned that the issues of cost and risk are not being put in the foreground and not clearly in the foreground in common sense easy to understand. As you guys know two years ago at the town meeting I brought in a list of problems with the buildings with associated costs gave it a committee and Vick assured me they would publicize that never was so I think and I'll try to keep this a three minutes I think there's a reason for this there's a stark difference between what I think is a very basic assumption of this whole question of the building and how the committee sees it and this was clarified for me in an argument I had with Vick Robson when I left the committee I said to him this is first and foremost a matter of money cost and risk and he was pretty hot I was pretty hot too and he said no Rob this is not a question of money it's a question of community and he's really heated about it and of course I love the community and and I like that idea but you know we're a community that has to buy gravel we have to have a road crew we have to have a town office we have to pay people in town is about money to a large degree and this is a huge issue but I continually felt that the very simple common sense nuts and bolts information about cost and risk was just never in the foreground in this report it's sort of in there but an indication of how it's not in the foreground is that in this huge document of more than four pages or whatever just bearing in mind the fire department was able to have a report which was with fires they put out all that accidents they went to and everything else they did in one page so in four pages of information here there's exactly one sentence that says here's how we're gonna pay for this one sentence and that sentence is we expect a grant school will pay for this they refer they say the building has good bones and needs upgrades well this is a language about you know the down plays up these aren't upgrades if you look at the list of what has to be done it's a very big and daunting list that adds up to three million dollars so I'm concerned again that this very good hearted committee made up of good friends of mine Vick's a good friend of mine Catherine has been very good to me at a personal level in the years that I've lived here I love these people are really good people but I think in the way that Dick and I disagree in a vision of community and in a vision of just money it's made the the either the ability or the willingness of the committee to really put this hard information out there in a simple way where people can read it has been impeded by what's basically a good hearted mission that's a good heart to say it's for community but we need the stuff that we need is gravel is the fundamentals of running a town do we really need this in terms of cost and benefit that's a big question and these questions aren't not being addressed they're not being discussed there aren't open meetings in which you know people like me can get up and say what about this what about that and I'm very uncomfortable with that I don't meet these are good friends of mine I don't mean to knock them they did a huge amount of work and God bless them and they're doing it for the right reasons but I think there's a very sharp divergence in how they see the question of how I see it that doesn't make me right that's just that's just how I see it I think there ought to be at least two open meetings on this subject to open where people can talk about and people can discuss and disagree like we do the merger there were very lively meetings before the merger where people came in and people are pissed off and waving arms around and you know discussing and kicking it back and forth I think there were three of them they're pretty heated and and you know we we moved the whole thing forward I feel like that's never happened with this of course COVID happened in the middle of this so that's really my only point it's the same point I made two years ago when I made that list for Vic and it's the same list I gave you guys now Vic contacted me last week he said we want to use your list but we want to edit it and I wish he was here because I said what you want to do and he showed me the draft he'd take my thing for you and he had taken all the money out of the bill there was a list of problems how many windows you need here's the condition of the room you know with a price tag on each one of them so you took all the money out and put it in a summary so he didn't the money the information wasn't taken away it was just made smaller and less evident and that's kind of a philosophy of communication that's going on in that committee I don't think I don't he told me he was gonna they were gonna provide that at the town meetings a version of that but there's no mention of it here in the in the report so I have no idea and he never got back I think it's a little annoyed so he never got back to me on that so so that's all I've got to say it's the same message I really wish this committee would get this cost and risk information out in the foreground in a clear common sense easy to read fashion and that's the end of my presentation and that and this whole topic or issue is why we have pushed originally we talked about having a vote on this at the town meeting and we've said absolutely not ready for that because the information had not totally been uncovered yet and not properly shared either so as is as of this point there is no set date for that meeting because we're still waiting for more concrete information to come out and I would fully anticipate that we do hold at least a few public meetings and talk about that to make that educated vote okay if the optimism of the committee diminishes the committee will no longer seek out if the building itself can be converted into anything so we're not even at that point yet we're still in the phase of saying is it at all possible whether it would conform to the laws the rules the grant requirements we're still in that phase we can't get to the next phase of renovating the building until we know whether the building even has a future we're not sending carpenters and lead abatement people in there only to find out that act 250 is going to say no to any of it so we're we're going to get there it's taking forever you know and it's it's a very slow grind when you're trying to get money for grants and the discovery process sometimes looks like a black hole it just goes further down and further down this week there was a meeting about the flood plain which we were all well I was all fearful that the new flood maps are being designed as we speak over the over the course of the next three years but it was discovered that Rochester's already been done so what we see is what we get in Rochester it's other parts of the rivers along the way there that are being surveyed and analyzed but we're already done so the fear of saying oh the flood plain is going to come back and haunt us we know what the flood plain is and that line is not going to change as it will in many other communities but in Rochester that is that is the line that we're dealing with that's what we learned in a meeting last week that was a very small you know glimmer of hope because there's still a lot of other hurdles for us to go through then if at the end of all of those hurdles if it still seems anyway doable then we're gonna start tackling is the building doable and your list will come up for sure and you know what those numbers will probably be double probably and so I rest assured you're you're not forgotten you're just on the back burner because there's a lot of things on the front burner can't get that front burner show off once it does then the back burner will come forward and it just is an incredible amount of time COVID COVID was a factor but not the only factor government wheels turn very slow thanks I appreciate that I want to say that I'm not here to lobby against buying the building I could argue it either way there's I mean it's a very very complicated subject to me I just think this this information thing needs to be out front that's my only great and it is a slow process you know and the wheel has a turn that's all but I but I think this putting that money information out front is important but I won't be the already beaten horse that's coming I do think something and Robin your defense a little bit I do think at some point the select board has to make a decision on where we stand to and I think that's going to be important for the community to know before we go for vote and I you everybody knows where I stand on this and I'm not I haven't wavered on that and I probably won't just because the finances are just aren't there for the community at all and I'll stand by that principle probably till the end but that's that's where I stand I you know this committee wants to form a nonprofit and buy the building go for it but if they don't want to and they want the town to own it I'm dead set against it and I will be dead set against it so that's where I stand and at some point the select board has to stand somewhere and we'll have to do yeah I know I think at the point that we're presenting the town with the time to vote on it yes time to make that yeah anybody else have any input on this topic to be continued I'm sure yeah any other topics concerns or issues that come up on the town report before the town meeting if not I would move to close the pre-town meeting second all in favor and now turn to open the regular select board meeting tonight and I would verify that we've properly warned this meeting on the internet and physically in town and email and coach okay so with time so we go forward now we've got prior minutes from a emergency select board meeting on February 10th which was to open the bids for the West Hill Bridge but that got delayed because of we had an addendum to that and while we were in this meeting we did approve the Huntington house third-class hotel license so those look proper to me I've moved to prove those seconded no favor all right okay and then the next two meetings I wasn't that so I'll let you present those on September well yeah September 13th was for sure September 17th September I mean February February 13th um we it was a regular select board meeting the minutes were taken losing called the order at 615 there was a lot of discussion during that meeting about the first responder services and then meeting 732 I read them I approve good minutes and you want to second that second that all in favor right right February 17th there was a special select board meeting I was there on uh June you were at this meeting oh no it says absolutely Frank Surrey Pat Harvey and we opened the bids we had four bids for the replacement of the West Hill Bridge we did not make any decisions at that time it was just a bid opening with the prices and meeting adjourned at 2 0 6 p.m so this is a six minute meeting I move that we approve these seconded all in favor all right so we have um guests and I think it's probably the first item under new business dean to talk about skate space in the update yep updating the fundraising that we're continuing to do um we are we have approximately $15,000 as of as of this point we have we're very thankful for the fire department we had a clear this winter uh no liner the ground froze they flooded it and it was used I would say for about six weeks and we were trying to beat the the weather basically at that that point in January but it was utilized um quite a bit this winter from here on in we have decided to forego plowing for the rest of the season to try to save that money towards the rebuilding of it so I believe we we we got $900 to for John Gorton to plow and I think that personally is key for any forward movement you've got to keep it plowed so the ground freezes and then it can get flooded uh so we're trying to basically we're not plowing for the rest of the season um sun's high the the the ice had evaporated um in that time so I'm here also asking the select board to keep skate space in the forefront of ARPA funding for the future of getting the funds to to increase our numbers so that we can get matching funding from other resources so what's the target number you are hoping to get total target number is 50k what's the target number to match the the grant well you know it depends on how you what they do for matching but this particular um um one of the the state of Vermont rec fund last year I was hot about doing it it there was a september 10th deadline and they had up to $25,000 up to 25 right so if we got 25 okay we could get 25 but that's not a given yeah you know um it's applications applications etc norm has uh has done a um what is that the Levesque there's a Levesque award from Gifford medical and uh that they're handing out two grants of $2,000 each um and we applied for those um it's just just regulated to the valley um Randolph um you know Hancock down to Pittsfield so we're hoping for that um and we're going to be doing that actually the Vermont rec or the state of Vermont offers two separate grants which we're going to be replying applying for that have matching funds um and determining exactly which matching funds are um qualify is is a little bit up in the air right now definitely the individual donations will qualify and that's totally right now 14,700 we've gotten uh almost a hundred different individual donors which is amazing I'm just uh yeah amazed at uh you know how people are backing us up um so I think you know what we'll get a nice chunk from these uh state uh grants but the ARPA will be that final piece to augment and get us to 50,000 that's the way I see it are those grants in kind um you know are those grants are are they in kind work where part of the matching money that you put forth is is work related or or matching from the community as far as not just dollars and cents is it matched with work yeah so so even as as of today we we qualify for 14,700 now maybe like this Levesque award might you know be a matching in in kind thing as well I think the question is that if if we get ARPA funds is that contingent uh is it part of the initial matching funds that we need to get matched understand what I'm asking yeah I don't see why it wouldn't be no I think they intended for ARPA funds to hopefully be leveraged yeah to leverage in that way yeah so it's not it basically are the town's money now it's no longer right the federal money right because one of the one of the grants basically says it can't have anything to do with federal funds but I'm what I'm asking the select board is to promise us something so that we can go in front of them and say well we have uh 25 we have 30 000 we can get you know a matching fund of up to 25 and one and then another one yeah so we're um it's we're at a point where I would like I would personally like the the select board to make a decision in our in our favor and in a direction of how we're going to yeah where we're going to head yeah um do we have to be careful with that as far as the rules go on whether those can be used as matching monies and I'm I wasn't sure if that's the if that's clear yet you know yeah um I'm gonna in the next month or two I'm gonna start really getting into those um grants all the details the fine print and you know find out if they do qualify or find out how you know what this seems like it's kind of a shell game yeah you know where this money's coming from what account it's sitting in and then find out how to make that happen if there is an avenue to make that happen Nancy did you have some input how much are the state grants well they they're you said there are two grants yeah we have an amount attached to this one that I've got in my hand is the recreational facilities grants program um this basically states that it if that if the resources creating get up to $25,000 it can match it doesn't necessarily it can match up to 25,000 it doesn't necessarily that mean that they guaranteed that right because there's another there's 100 towns after this money yeah um but I um you know and then there's in the fine print here you know and this is what this is the big question about what are are the ARPA funds the towns now and is it you know because it says you cannot use any state or federal funds as your one one financial funding match so it either comes lary it either comes after you know you know from so we work our tails off to try to get as much as we can from the public and then you guys fill in the blanks at the end but I'm I'm afraid that it gets furthered away personally because it's easy to spend no we pretty much earmarked some for skate space where you haven't we haven't put the figure on that yet only because we want to get two other projects that we've got in front of that but there is money earmarked for that that is our third there's one this year um we've got this wall out here that's been an issue for the last five or six years that we can't get funding for which we plan on doing that we don't know what that's going to be and also the extent of what happens at the library there and then we've kind of put a number in our head here to start with which was between 20 and 25 000 that we were looking at to supplement that but my question is I'm not sure that we can use ARPA money as match money we have to use it for the project we can't use it as a match to the project I get it so and that's that's what I'm not sure we'd have to look at that they've changed the rules on that but is do you understand it that way Larry well so I have two questions so there it is a technical question and and it relates in two ways it relates to the rules of this grant right and how this what are the rules of this grant and so that has to be investigated and I think it could be answered quickly with a phone call to this grant administrator what you'd get the answer immediately I reckon I can I can do with do that but I basically you know but there and and what is the timeline for this application well when when is this grant like August this this one I'm just assuming it's the same date around September 10th that's what it was last year so it's upcoming this summer yes okay so they're not necessarily to really be discussed here but there is an avenue for the town to take its ARPA money in hand in total now and be done with the government the federal government right patty and I have discussed this briefly it's an avenue I think this board should carefully consider it room but it's not for a discussion for tonight so it would answer Dean's question it then would be your money to use in any way you wish right so but we don't need to talk about that too but if you don't take that route then there is a technical question about whether it can be used directly as match right that's the question yeah but that can be answered quickly by the yes by the grant administrator of this particular right so we are moving forward with the scope of work and the bidding process one of the one of the questions I had was could the I know you might have been asked already but when cricket did the engineering of the site she found a section of Martha Slater's land on the northern section still in her possession that she did not donate we actually built on her land there's a little slice of the northern section of the of skate space and it was recommended by cricket to have a lawyer try to deal with the easement and I believe somebody said I don't know that the the select board had okayed the use of the the town lawyer for the the easement of that Martha Slater needs I talked with Martha I think she's on here and she doesn't have any issue at all with it but it's just a it's a dot dot in the eye kind of thing where if we built it in the the property transferred somehow it could be messy so I'm asking the the the the the select board if they would utilize the town lawyer yeah you may not need to use the town lawyer if it's just a minor lot line adjustment but we could look into that Martha's got something to say I just just wanted to say that I remember them talking to me about that and I'm perfectly fine with whatever works out you know as far as because I want the skate space to be used you know I was very very you know I because I live directly above skate space you know I like when he was talking about the six weeks that the skate space was used this winter and everything I mean year round I look down and I see people down there enjoying it and I really am glad that we have that so I'm perfectly fine with whatever they come up with I don't you know I didn't realize that there was an issue before and whatever it is it's okay with me okay because I want I want the town to have that so deal with your grant you say you have $15,000 in hand now with donations so even if you went for your grant and that 15 was the matching that would give you 30 yeah and then we have an earmark of 20 so I think you should sleep well at night saying that this can happen okay that's that's what I wanted to hear yeah yeah we planned on that all right okay first came in all right we just needed to address some other issues that's really great news I got one other question I'm basically coming up with a scope of work and I was wondering if I could use the town website to have the bids go out um you know I don't really know how to do it other than pick up a phone and ask three contractors which I will do anyway but the the town does use the website for the bidding process a good avenue for that might be through cricket if she's still involved well I emailed her yeah I emailed her last week she might be away I don't know but she has always been very helpful and I'm going to run what I have by her for sure it's just a matter of how it gets out there yeah that's all I'm asking yeah there's an avenue that goes through a state of Vermont it just gets broadcast to all the contractors everywhere and she knows how to do that so she might be the lct you can also advertise through them yeah they usually put it on their site yeah yeah great as a municipal part I mean the bidding should go out through the municipality anyway don't you think I would think so that's the town should be putting that out not right committee okay so when I finalize this I'll run it through cricket and then yeah we we should all get together and do it okay because it has to go through the municipality it's a you're part of that so okay that's the way we have to look at I would think all right thank you thanks for all your perseverance and vision and work on that yeah so enough of this small money stuff let's talk about the big money stuff here we got we got um so we got the bids um for the West Hill bridge and where they what how much higher than we were hoping 50 percent higher yeah the cheapest one or 100 percent higher they were double what we were wanted yeah so been in contact with with uh the engineer uh Jason Keener and um we have a time frame where we have to address this and I believe it's 30 days if I'm not he said it's a great thing to do yeah within 30 days too and we can do look at it a few different ways we could say all the bids were to buy and and not award it or we could award it to the little bidder which uh Jason is still in the process of reviewing those bids as far as he wants there's some questions that he has that he wants to address and um so we would want our best bet is to hold off on whether or not we award this or make a decision on it at this time um I I personally think that we're going to have to look at funding this because I I think down the road it's just going to get more expensive and it's not going to be price won't go down it's not going to go down and we run a risk if we refuse by only having four bids we run a real risk of having nobody bid again and I would feel differently about it if the bids were closer together so that everybody was in a game but we there's a pretty major discrepancy between the bridge of the bids so I I think we really run the risk of nobody bidding again and so I I think we need to really look seriously at the low bid here and see if we can come up with a way of funding it so so what will we be short we're I'm still talking with the state on trying to get an extra 400,000 or so uh yeah we're we're a little more than 400 short um we have about two two-thirds of the money and the states possibly can give us another 25,000 so that would be we would be up to like a little short like 425 but I don't you know we can't every bid is come in that way talking with the state every everybody's been surprised at how much they are and so I I don't know it's it's a decision we have to make if we don't do it we run the risk of not getting any bids possibly they handed out 18 sets sets of plans and we got four and we've got four bids roughly 18 sets but only 12 or legitimate bid packages going to legitimate contractors so to only get four bids and have them three being really high and close and then one being halfway reasonable or pretty reasonable we we figured um if we could have done it three years ago we might have been able to get it for that but how everything worked out it just didn't happen so well you look compared to the school and that's bargain huh yeah but it just goes to show what we're faced with down the road I mean if you take on a project like the school and you you run into something like this where you have a what 15 that bridge goes to 15 people plus recreational place force you know forestry and all that you know it's something we're lucky that the forest service is coughing up yeah that would be difficult for us to turn our back on that funding because it may never come back to us again right um that that is almost a gift that we should not refuse yeah well there's no guarantee we would be able to hold the funding for it for three years down the road and then no guarantee the price would be anywhere near what it is now two rivers doesn't have any avenue for us to go knocking on grant doors at this time and the only money coming but it's not here yet for the infrastructure bill the widened infrastructure bill and uh it's not downloaded to us yet so I don't know if we would be able to apply for funding on a project that we already have planned for this year that's the next batch of funding that's coming is infrastructure which would be designed for this but it's not here yet so we continue to dig with shovel we're working for you folks so we're kind of just going to look and see where the where we might possibly address the funding issue and we'll go from there but I believe we have a 30 day window that we have to make a decision and so how far into that 30 days are we already 10 days or so that's from the day the bids were open so it's uh the 17th February so we really need like the 12th I think of of March right that we need to make a decision on the next meeting yeah Martha yeah Martha I was just going to say that when the meeting at which you opened the bids was the 17th of February so it gives you to the so at the next so you're saying now that you'll you're just feeling that you're going to make a decision at the next regular select board meeting on the 13th or an emergency meeting or an emergency meeting I guess what we're saying is we're not going to make a decision tonight okay but you need to make a decision by March 17th is what I should say uh March 30 days from February that would be 30 days from when you opened the bids yeah right right well there's only 28 days of February so you got to knock a couple days off of it and and we'll probably be more equipped to make a decision when we hear back from the engineer because he had some questions about the bids and and he was going to address those that he was going to get back to us so I think we'll wait till we hear hear that and then we can figure it out okay thank you yeah thank you okay any any um good ideas from the crowd about where we can come up with a quick $500 you got a couple extra bucks in your pocket you want a big sale boy too bad Irene just didn't just have one more kick for that one more no um so I guess well um it's too bad we couldn't build a road and forget the bridge yeah coming on the pink side there but it's steep enough you couldn't do it well on the other side of the money spectrum we did finally succeed in getting the um some reimbursement from is this from FEMA or the state this is our last um reimbursement from FEMA so the 16,530 is the Cat Z so that's like the uh Jones time that she spent on the FEMA work and then the 31,168 is the state's portion so those will be our two final and these were regarding which project April 2019 20 21 22 23 wow yeah four years I've done a lot well okay well that's accepted huh yeah the total total that you're that you're receiving I'm sorry I'm confused aren't there two there there's two toes one of them is 16,530 17 and the other one is 31,168 94 and they're both but they're both basically from FEMA you could say that yep okay thank you very much I'm sorry I didn't hear the correct figures before okay um in various other locations it would have been all the um not the Bepple Mountain all the um sites right yeah oh the site Sky Hollow and yeah and uh Maple Hill wing firm there were like 26 sites yeah yeah at least 21 yeah there's a bunch of them yeah a lot of paperwork okay it's a lot easier to talk about accepting money than spending money isn't it that's been hard money to get yeah yeah we haven't got it yet no we haven't in that um that will allow us to be put into the pool to receive the funds so it's still going to be some time before we get it that's great we're just jumping in the pond with with that signature there buddy okay all right um Tony got any um reports from the library tonight once they last uh Thursday's paper had a lot of information about things going on at the library but one that I think I should mention is the uh great uh decisions discussion which will start again uh April 18th and they run for something like eight eight different Tuesdays I believe so I think that was mentioned there but there's there'll be a lot of information about that all right you guys are talking about great decisions that have been made at the select board yeah any um highway is pretty self-evident they've been just working away at keeping the roads clear yeah they've they've had their their issues but you're bound to it's equipment always always some issues yeah they've been busy they're just miserable little storms where they have to do some work and can't really settle on anything else but things are they're moving along yeah they're doing as all they can so right they had started on some mud season work and then then it regressed back to winter so it seemed to have a tough time getting in gear for certain things yeah so um terry you um our contract for the spring walk around I think that was the wise decision to make that a three-year contract and yeah a yearly contract it's just been taking so long for me to get a contract over the sign usually we're late so this way yeah we'll have to deal with it I think it's I mean you're not going to change engineers at this point because it costs us a fortune to have a new company come in and redo our whole system and the fire department got their new truck we got a new truck you got to exercise it already no no not yet we tore the old one apart or we can get done fighting the fire so everybody's really happy for a long day in for nothing get them up early in the morning but yeah it'd be we got it so we can use it but it's not nearly ready it's gonna take some time we spent a considerable time today and tomorrow it'd be a couple weeks where it's all back together all right um this Jeff get part in in the wings there yep good evening Jeff good evening all uh well I heard it already mentioned it's the library that's most of what's on my plate um moment I've been working with uh two rivers out of qui chi seeing if we can shoehorn that project into the municipal energy resilience program that's ARPA money have provided uh two rivers out of qui chi with detailed information on the town buildings and it appears really that the library is the critical one at the moment not so much on the energy standpoint but on the building preservation standpoint due to the fact that water is getting behind the cladding particularly badly on the north wall and we have roof leakage this project is going to be very expensive today window estimates came in and frankly I'm not that happy with the efficiency of the windows they chose to estimate but they are quite costly and that's six windows um we're going about 700 uh $3,700 just for weather resistive barrier and the tapes that go with it um the problem is is that we have wood cladding over nothing there's no weather resistive barrier there to kick water back out onto the face of the cladding so we have to remove all of the cladding um and which is um lead painted and so there's additional expense in the in the abatement there we have to basically uh scaffold in cocoon the the building to do the demolition um we did have a high school site visit um a while back Robert mayor and I were able to round up all of what we know to be existing for blueprints for the building and to get that on to the school system those have been digitized so that they can be further analyzed. Lyle um I wasn't able to attend but Matt Sharp from Efficiency Vermont came down and did a walkthrough with the former facilities person Lyle Smith who was helping out the supervisor reunion um they did a walkthrough and infrared thermography and identified some huge holes in the building um large relief not valves doors um frankly I don't know understand that what they were I'm not that familiar with commercial construction but in any case there were enough very large holes filled that we should see a significant reduction in fuel consumption in that building going forward. And you know listening to skate space discussion um you know it really seems like we need a grant writer in this town or a grant to get a grant writer in this town uh Dean's working on a scope of work I'm working on a scope of work for a live for the library but I'm not familiar with how with grant writing procedures and and whatnot I do feel like I'm spending half my time attending grant writing workshops and workshops about grants that are available um so you know just I have to wonder whether we've got the right people doing the right thing um you know the obviously one needs a scope of work to apply for a grant but I think there's some other skills in grant application and acquisition that I don't know of or have um but as I've got I've gotten most of the lumber materials pricing back and so now I have to do the estimate of actually how much of each of those things are necessary or needed um we'll need to do a review to see whether all of the efficiency things that were listed in prior records from the town uh you know for things upgrades done to the library if there's significant ones there that were not done this would be an opportunity to get that taken care of um so that's that's pretty much it there's just a lot of estimating to do to come up with cost and I heard a number floated today that isn't going to cut it um so yeah yeah it's going to be a costly project I'm afraid Jeff have you uh looked into utilizing two rivers for grant writing I'm sorry pat patty I could not uh hear utilizing two rivers to assist you in the grant writing um I will if they are available to do that I'm happy to use them yeah I mean I'm I'm working with harry falconer on this uh municipal energy resilience program I have done the latest things that he has requested and I haven't heard anything back but I was off with my granddaughter's last week well thank you for your energy and time spent on all this can we continue absolutely thank you yeah speaking of grant updates what's on here um yeah the only other thing that I have is that we received um our reimbursement for the security cameras at the fire department so that's all closed out that was quick easy um we will be looking at some point john has a request for the upper part of beffel mountain that we'll have to look at and see what what that is um I've had talk with chris bump about projects coming forth for the town whether what we need and what our needs are john put together an assessment of the beffel mountain that where he thought we could go and I've yet to address that with chris but I'll take care of that soon after we get through a few of these other things you know I have to do it soon I think we have to put that request in sometime in april I believe isn't that right christen I think yeah yep so we'll be we'll be doing it shortly at some point the old business got any um old business that we haven't touched upon nope any um public comment from folks in the room or on zoom well I've been hearing a little about about we aren't going to be connected with the grandville of rescue first response is not that we're not going to be connected with that word we've been trying to actually improve it and and stimulate conversation around it there's been some do you want to speak on this pet we did do a decrease in their funding but we still funded them at 50 percent a little more than 50 percent of what they requested um there were some deficiencies that they're already showing some improvements but we are also taking a step back and looking at the service that werver provides you understand that this is not affecting werver coming over the mountain the ambulance still comes okay um that can take a while and and they are they are responding to calls when they go out so um the the first responders are the ones that come and they can you know give you oxygen and tend to you but they can't transport you so we're taking a little bit of a step back and analyzing whether or not it would be wise to pull the communities together throughout the whole valley and improve the service so that perhaps we could we have a lot of emt's in this valley at this point in time and um perhaps use their services and improve the service to a point where we could transport and that way it would eliminate maybe werver coming over the mountain waiting for werver to come over if we if we would allow them to expand into this valley and utilize the resources of the people the emt's that we have here it's still preliminary so um we're we're exploring but if you don't take a step back every 10 years ago or so and look at your population your demographic and your needs which also includes some back country rescue um this is exactly what we're doing we're just taking a step back and looking what what in the meantime we still have the same oh yes i have a scanner they're they're they're they're responding there's yeah no we we did not terminate their service no no we encourage them to continue on the path that they're they're going on and uh they have some very good members and uh we we we don't want to discourage or eliminate that we want to enhance it and make it better all right i guess we'll um bring this meeting to close and and um let's go home and wait for it to snow again oh yeah tonight thank you all for coming thank you thank you