 Okay, it's like this, who gon' bring it to the table? Boss talk, who your girlfriend failed? Boss talk. Check it, check it, check it, man. It's a unique house, this is your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica, Wade. How's it going? I am blessed. Hey, man, too blessed to be stressed. Exactly. Man, hey, man, we got a special guest in here today. He don't need no introduction. These guys are family, the ones been here today. Boy, I feel real comfortable talking to these guys. Other folks, I'd be like, let me read this and look at that. Not today, man. I know these guys, man. They need an introduction to our viewers. Check it, man. My boy, Manuel's in the building, man. What's going on, man? Yo, yo, yo, what's going on? Emmanuel, what's going on? Say that last name, man. Fasanya. Fasanya. Fasanya. Yeah, Fasanya, man. Listen, it was E to me. It's always been E to me, man. Dr. E to PT now. Hey, man. So, man, you're a doctor, man. But you know one thing I remember when he was young, when he was here. He said, this is what he was going to sit out to do. It's crazy. But didn't he know it was going to be in this field? I don't know if he knew what Bill was going to be in, but I know he told me this right here in the store. Yes. The power of the mind is not a joke, man. He told me this. Not a joke. But you knew it was this field or not? Man, I know I wanted to do. At first, I thought I wanted to be like a, I wanted to go into orthopedics. I'd be an orthopedic surgeon. I really didn't know about it. I knew it was a surgeon, it was a doctor. I knew I wanted to be in the medical field. But I kind of found physical therapy later on. Kind of through Josie. Josie was doing it and then he kind of did it and shadowed in college and figured out he didn't want to do that. He went into IT and I said, this is what I want to do. I stuck to it. So really right before college, actually, it was in high school, like seeing a year going into like freshman year of college. I just knew, I didn't know what type of doctor you were going to be in, but I knew that's what you told me you wanted to do. And I thought that was dope. Every time I looked at, when I looked at you and Taylor, I was like, man, they both went out here and did amazing. You know what I mean? That's crazy, man. I never could have wrote this out. I can always say, bro, you blessed, man. What about physical therapy that you love so much? What made you go into choose that field? All right, so the difference between being a physician or a general doctor and a physical therapist is because let's say, I don't know, you hurt your shoulder. You think you tore your rotator cuff. You go to the orthopedic doctor. You go in there. You sit in the waiting room for a long time. Then they finally call you back. You sit in the room back there for a long time. The doctor sees you for 30 seconds and walks out. With a physical therapist, you come in and you talk to me. I evaluate you. Let's say I got to see you for six months of physical therapy, two, three times a week. I see you every day for 30 minutes to an hour. Every time you come to me for appointment and we build a bond, we build a connection. I'm not just your physical therapist, but kind of getting your mental right as well because let's say you're an athlete. You can't play your sport or your accounting and you can't type at the computer. You can't do what you're used to doing. So a physical therapist gets to take you throughout that journey and be with you and spend a lot of time with a patient and kind of just be a good person and get people back to even better from where they were when they started. So PT was where it was at for me. Wow, man. When I first, when I seen you, man, and I seen you going through all that and I seen you, you had the dopest, your college career, when you became the doctor, I felt like I had made it. You know what I mean? I watched it, you know, we follow each other on IG and I was like, man, this boy here having a good time. Y'all party different too. Y'all do it on another level and y'all make it look good, you know. I ain't gonna go too far cause she gonna wanna go into your childhood. She gonna get mad, but I'm going there. Yeah, cause we started in the beginning. Okay, let's go back. So as a child growing up, you were raised with your mom and dad, right? Yes. How many siblings? Two older sisters and two younger brothers. I was a middle child. Middle child, okay. And the older one is a boy girl. Older sisters, two older sisters. Okay, and you were raised here in Mesquite? Yeah, Mesquite, Texas. Okay, how did you like Mesquite? Mesquite was cool, you know. It was people think they hear Mesquite, they hear the suburbs, yeah, it was the suburbs, but then you had all kinds of people moving from different hoods in Dallas and coming to Mesquite. And we got to just experience, you know, pleasant grove, people come from Oak Live, North Dallas, and come to a school and Mesquite wasn't soft though. But we were able to kind of redirect and get away from that type of life and kind of choose the right path. Cause there's not too many people from our high school that even went to college or, you know, go on a professional level, yeah, for real, yeah. A lot of people that we grew up with, if they did go to college, you know, or I don't know, it's just a rare percentage of people who went and, you know, did some, some, you know, right. Actually did what they wanted to do. Right, right, right, so it's honestly a blessing, you know, it's a blessing, you know. And as a child growing up, what did you want to be? You say you always want to be in the medical field for sure, you know? But why as a child, you know, did you have anybody else in your family who was in the medical field? Oh yeah, absolutely. My dad, you know, I'm originally from Nigeria. I was born there. I came here when I was living in London for one year and then I came here when I was about four or five years old. Can you speak the language? I understand it fluently and I speak, you know, conversationally, you know, Yoruba is where I'm from, you know, I'm just my tribe Yoruba. Okay. So I speak, I speak a little bit, but I understand it fluently. But my dad, he's a physician, he was OBGYN back in Nigeria, but you know, when you come here, it's almost like they don't respect that degree. Yeah, they are certified all over again. Right, and my dad, he, man, he had to work at 7-Eleven-Co from having to be an OBGYN, having your own practice. He had his own practice out there doing very well. And go work at 7-Eleven. Yeah, he came here so his children can have a better life, you know, try to have more opportunities, you know. So he was working there, he even worked as a surgical tech and the attending surgeons, he was like guiding their hands when they're delivering babies and teaching, because he delivered thousands and thousands. And he started that path to start doing it again. So you're considered still an MD here, but you know, after you become an MD, you have to do your residency in a fellowship. He already did that. And he started doing that, but it was taking a lot of time away from his family. And he was like, you know what, I choose my family over, you know, this career and money. And you know, even a lot of his friends were doing that, he chose to, you know, start his own business. And he was able to spend more time with his family. He really showed us the sacrifice, you know, it takes, you know, raise a family and everything like that. And a family comes first. Right, family comes first. So I just feel like success is my duty, you know, at this point. So just trying to get it. Did he ever mention to you, because out of curiosity, the difference between being an OBGYN there in Africa compared to, you know, medical practices here? Yeah, I would say probably there's a lot, you're under a microscope a lot more here in America than you are in a Nigerian, you know, they have, you know, the same medical, it's a worldwide language. So everybody speaks the same language. A doctor in China understands the same thing as a doctor here in America, but you're just a lot more regulations and rules probably more so. And a terminology might be different. Oh, a terminology is the same. The human body is the same. God made, you know, any, the same anatomy, it's a universal language, they're just gonna say it in another language. Right. It's the same exact, you know, the same exact thing, you know, there may be advances in practices in Europe or, you know, Australia or something like that, you know, and we kind of adopt some of those things and have our research here, but it's globally shared around the world. So that knowledge is one language. So it's a little bit of difference, but as far as the difference between America and Nigeria, yeah, the core is the same, just probably just, you're just more rules and regulations and things here probably so. So I see where you got, it's in the family. Oh yeah, my oldest sister as well, my oldest sister, she's 11 years older than me. She's a gastroenterologist and she's a part owner of a practice out there. She's doing very well. Wow, that's cool. So that's crazy, man. I remember how your dad was, you always, I knew that when you were here, when you were young, that that structure was there. You know, I could hear it in the, even the little dating scene or whatever you were trying to accomplish. You had the vital use, how you did everything. And how important is structure when you're growing up as a young man, as a boy growing into a man to have that structure there to say, hey man, you gotta do it this way or that way? Oh man, it's very important. Far as from a father. Right, it's important because he kinda, I always had to remember where I came from and who I was representing, you know, my last name. I always had to remember that and who's my father, you know, so everything that I did had to keep that in mind that, you know, my dad wouldn't be happy if I did that, you know, my dad, you know, he wouldn't like that I did that. And I kinda didn't understand it growing up. Like, I look at all my friends, they get to do this, they get to stay out. You thought he was being unfair. Yes, unfair, like why do they get to go to this party or go to do this, but you know, you kinda look back and see those friends that got to do everything, where are they now and then where are you now? Not to say anything bad about them, but it's all for a reason why he had to have that type of structure in our lives. So it's very important to have that structure as a man. But how old were you when you realized that? He was in college somewhere. College, definitely college, yeah, definitely college. It was a long time before I realized it. You know, it was really in college. Man, crazy story in college. You know, I went to a community college my first year coming out of high school. I thought I was gonna play football and work out, you know. Yeah, I remember you, I remember you at, yeah, I remember me, yeah, I was gonna play football, you know, then you had Taylor over there, he had 13 touchdowns, 1300 receiving yards. And I was a secondary receiver, I only got like two touchdowns, you know what I'm saying, 30 touchdowns. So he was clearly, you know, on another level, but you know, football didn't work out, but like God always has a plan for you. You know, I went to college my first year at UNT. I was away from my parents. I didn't go to a dorm because I was a sophomore going in. So I went straight to an apartment. They dropped me off left and I looked around like, man, I'm here by myself, you know, like I don't have no curfew, no rules, you know. Did you go wild? I went a little bit, I went a little bit wild, like for instance, I'll be in class physically, but I wouldn't be there immensely. I'm thinking about the wrong thing, thinking about girls or thinking about what parties or what's going on, you know, what were we hanging out after class and things like that, you know. And I share this with people because success is not a linear path, it's just not a straight path. My first semester was at 2010 at UNT. I had a 1.384 GPA. Wow. You didn't even try. Focus on the wrong thing. I was focused on the wrong thing. I had F's and D's and, you know, and my parents, they didn't even know GPAs could get that low. What did they say? What'd your dad say? Maybe you should go out and be a mechanic or something. Oh, that's mellow! You know, you know, hear me with that, you know. Maybe school's not for everybody, you know, because he was like, man, I giving up hope on this guy. Like, what's going on? I mean, he didn't give up on me, but like, man, like. Reverse psychology, you never know. Like, so I remember there was that fall semester. My first fall semester at UNT did terrible. That Christmas break was the worst. But then they was trying to tell my counselor at the time, like, maybe we shouldn't keep him at home and go to community college and things like that. And the counselor told my parents, you know, at the end of the day, yes, he can do that, but it's his decision. You know, it's, you know, he's an adult now. You know, they try to guide you as much as they can. You know, it doesn't matter how old you are, your parents are still your parents, so they want to guide you. And then they kind of showed me that, you know, this is you. I realized when I made that decision that I realized, I was like, man, no matter what, my name's going to be on that degree, you know, or, you know, or it's not, you know, it's not going to be my parents' name, it's not going to be anybody else. Once I realize that, that success is up to me or whatever I do is up to me and nobody's going to be affected really, but me, that's when I just, I just went hard, you know, I went hard at school, and it's hard to bring up your GPA from that low. From that, right. So even as many A's as you get, it just boop, just goes up to the little bit, you know. Do some extra credit somewhere. Extra credit retaking classes, you know, doing everything summer school, you know, I was going to school year round, fall, spring, winter, semester, everything, you know, just to try to get that GPA back up. And I also found a fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated. That was really my step from going from a boy to a man, you know, because you have to have a certain GPA. Yeah, and a brotherhood, and you have to have that certain GPA, and I know those guys were doing good. So that made me really give me that another motivation to get my GPA up. I was supposed to play football, UNT, but because of that, GPA I couldn't even try to walk on to try out. And I think that was all in God's plan too, you know, because I found physical therapy for real then, you know, I was kind of into, you know, but then I really found, like, okay, this is what I gotta do. I started looking at schools and you gotta have this GPA. I joined the physical therapy student association, pre-physical therapy club at UNT. And they got, you know, schools come talk to us and this is the GPAs you have to have. And it's really competitive to get into PT school. You are, there's only 50 spots per year. It's a yearly, you know, it's a yearly, what's the core of students that they accept every year. It's about 50 to 60 students, less than that, you know. Wow, well, you see so many practices popping up everywhere. You think that they'll allow a lot more than just that. Yeah, so they have a, they have, you know, they have, I wanna say, they're starting to bring a lot of more schools to Texas, but let's say around like five to seven physical therapy schools in Texas only except for 50 students a year is extremely competitive, you know. So if you don't have like 3.8 to 4.0 GPA, they don't even, you know, they're just not even looking at you. So I had to think about, okay, I had to kind of tell my story, let them know who I was, go from, you know, going to these schools. Man, going to, I know we, I'm skipping, you know. Going to physical therapy school. But from that GPA, getting it up, you know, getting my GPA up, graduating, applying to school. I didn't get in my first, my first try, come out of school. I tried to, and that's the way I wanna really just kind of push that. Cause people think, you know, you're just like saying, success, get in there. And just get in, you know, wherever you need to go. But, you know, a failure without tasting the bitter taste of failure, you can never truly appreciate, you know, the sweetness of success, you know. And that failure of not getting into like, I mean, I kind of did my application kind of last minute. I applied to one school, use UNT Health Science Center in Fort Worth. And I didn't get in. But then I kind of went back and I looked at all the things called the school, say, what did I do wrong and where can I improve? And I really would work closely with that counselor. I probably bothered her, you know, when I drove to Fort Worth and kind of have her go over my resume and my classes. It's like, well, maybe to retake this class, retake this class. So I moved, I moved to Houston right after I graduated UNT December, 2013, just for a fresh start, get away from everything and just kind of just grind. And I, I locked in. I was working at a best buy at the time. And I was going on a physical therapy school tour. Like I would drive around all schools around Texas. What department in best buy? Computers. Yeah, yeah. Computers, yeah. Back there with them, with them apples. And yeah, he over there with them old deals. Yeah, yeah. So I could come in and get you and lie to me. That's what they do in there. Yeah, I just know everything about you. You got this much RAM on it. Oh, you know how many computers? I said, oh yeah, I got the computer at home. I just sell the computer, man. I didn't have that computer at home. I loved it, man. I know what I go in there, what I'm about to deal with. Yeah, yeah. There's something up. Don't get a twist there. There's some guys they know what they're talking about. But you know, and I learned as I was going about the computers and everything. But yeah, man, I was working at best buy. I got a little internship working. That's what I actually before best buy got internship when I first got to Houston. It was a home health physical therapy. And I was just, I was driving in my car full of everything that I owned at that time. Driving around different places in Houston. Kind of peeping out the window, making sure nobody's breaking in my car. Telling myself I was sleeping on my friend's couch. Just for opportunity, you know? Just for opportunity. That's all I wanted to try to get into school. Absolutely. Stepping out on faith. So I was shadowed. I did that for about two months or so. And then that's when I started working at best buy. But it helped me get some shadow in hours. You know, kind of building my story. What did your dad think about this? Because you now giving it a hell of a go. Oh yeah, my dad was like, he didn't understand me moving to Houston without a plan, without a goal. Like, you know, my brother-in-law and my sister lived out there. And that's about it. You know, you know, I had some friend, brother. How do you feel? Sort of kind of comfortable, because you had family out there. Yeah, family there and everything. So that was cool. My aunt lived out there. My cousin lived out there. So I was just, I was, but I was really like, hey, I'm just gonna move out here for a fresh start. And I'm still gonna get into school. You know, he kind of didn't really understand like a full plan, but like, hey, you're a man. You know, I'm, we're here to support you. My dad was always there to support me throughout anything I needed. What did your mom say? This whole time I'm here and dad, dad, dad. What happened to mom? Yeah, all my mom's there. So I grew up, I grew up with my stepmother who stepped in that role at a young age of five to become really like my mom. You know, she's the one who really helped me become the gentleman that I am today. She helped me with etiquette. You know, she taught me, you know, oh, you know, when someone don't be eating at everybody's house, you know, just because somebody offers you something for free doesn't mean you have to accept it, you know, it's free. You know, so she gave me a lot of my core principles that I take with me to this day. And I appreciate her for taking care, you know, of somebody who wasn't her biological son, but to him. Where is he? So my real mother, so I don't think anybody, a lot of people really don't know this about me. So my birth mother lives in Nigeria still. Okay. And her and my father divorced and got to, I got to here in Texas. And you know, we kind of, I didn't have no cell phone and then some maybe like my junior year high school where people used to make fun of me or that. Wow. But I remember. So have you met her? I have to memorize everybody. Yeah, I haven't seen her since I was four years old, but we talk, you know, she's involved as she can. She calls me, talks to me, you know, it's not easy living in Nigeria. So you haven't taken a trip to Nigeria? Not yet. Not yet. Yeah. So as you can see, I've been a professional student. Yeah. He gave it, he gave it to my life to try to do my 100. So when are you going? I'm planning to go on next year, this next year. So starting this clinic. Yeah. Oh yeah. I can't even imagine. When you see her for the first time. I want to be able to, you know, go over there and really make an impact, you know, kind of help her out, take care of her, you know, show, you know, that her son, you know, has been working to be able to do this for you, you know, so, you know, so I want to be able to do that. So like, my mom definitely, she is always there and supporting me academically as well, too, to get there. My stepmom, you know, she's been there. And I don't even ever really call her my stepmom. I noticed that. I must call her my mom. She's been there with you the whole time. She's been there since five years. Right, so people don't even know that's my stepmom. That's my, you know. I never knew when he was here, but I would always see how hard your dad pushed you. And I thought about my dad and I understood, you know, because I know that they care. Are they just doing what they feel is best for you? Absolutely. Do you have siblings over there? Oh, no. Well, my mom, actually, my mom, I just found out like a couple of years ago or so that my mom had another son. So, so I have a brother over there in Nigeria. So I want to be able to go over there and help them out as much as I can, make sure they're set up and they're taking care of as well. So, but yeah. So my mom definitely here, you know, definitely pushed me to get to that next level and go for. So, you know, going back to Houston, you know, I was able to, you know, go on my physical therapy tour and just, it's crazy. Like when you want something and you like just go for it, like just the job, the God is going. People say the universe. I wanted to say replace the universe with God. Yeah. But like everything that's working in the powers that may be worked together to make that goal possible as long as you put all your energy on your effort into that goal. So like I was driving to every physical therapy school. I remember I drove to Texas State from Houston. One times like a little two hour drive or some two and a half hour drive for like a 10, 15 minute meeting, you know, and I drive right back. Gotta do what you gotta do. You know, I was going all around just so they could see my face that, yeah, my GPA may not be as high as everybody else's, but you know, I got thousands of hours of shadowing in different settings of physical therapy. I actually understand the field. I have a passion for this, you know, and that's what I was doing while I was in Houston taking full advantage of that. And I was able to get in my second try to physical therapy school to, you know, I got into a couple of schools, you know, so it was a good opportunity. And I chose TWU Houston. This is the top physical therapy school in the state of Texas. And I think it's like number 20 something in the nation now, you know, and so it's really, it's a really good school. It's almost unnecessarily too difficult, you know, that school, but they really prepare their PTs to go out into the world and help people. But I chose that school because they were doing something to get more minorities into the field of physical therapy. So I chose that school because I knew it was gonna be, dang, there anybody that looked like me in that school and it wasn't. It was just me and my roommate, you know, and I had another classmates who as well, another female, but as far as like, black males like us, it was me and my roommate. And there was another one, another guy out of like 50 some students, you know, so we couldn't really relate. Luckily I had him, you know, in my other roommate. Was that difficult though going to school Did you experience, did you have some experiences? Oh yeah, like for sure, you know, to this day, you know, all the way up to now, you know, people like the higher you go, the less people gonna look like you, you know. So especially in the medical field, you know, so it's like you gotta prove yourself a lot, you know. So going through school, you know, I had to prove, like sometimes I thought I didn't belong because these kids, they had a lot of preparation going into physical therapy school. A lot of them had anatomy classes and stuff before, you know, and like more in depth. And you know, me, I was out of school for a little bit, I graduated 2013, I didn't get in school 2015. I had to take all these prerequisite classes, retake classes to qualify, you know. So these kids that were fresh out of school, all this stuff is fresh on their brain. And with me, I just kind of didn't get it as quick. But once I got it, I got it better than anybody. You know what I mean? So that's kind of was, it was a little discouraged and like they're going in there and they're naming all these muscles, bones, joints and ligaments and tendons in the body. And I'm like, man, I don't, I don't understand. I don't get it. I remember our going in, so that we had this little locker room that we'll get ready to get them to an anatomy lab to go. Cause we actually looked at real human bodies, cadavers, and dissected the bodies. And that's how we learned the anatomy of the human body. So every bone, joint, nerve, tendon, ligaments. Sounds gross. Yeah. We had to learn that on the same level. People don't know as far as physical therapy. I want to give people a lot of knowledge. Even y'all about physical therapy, you know, physical therapist, we're trained to speak about the human body on the same level as, you know, as a doctors. So we take anatomy and physiology in some schools, they take it with the medical students, you know, so we can learn on that same level because like when a surgeon does surgery, he needs to be able to talk to me, you know, as a, as a equals, a pair, you know, to understand what's going on with his patient. You know, so as a physical therapist, we are the go-to practitioners to the musculoskeletal system as it relates to movement, you know. So that's what we do. Like say somebody gets surgery, you know, you're going to go like, you're going to 110%, you know, go to a physical therapist, you know what I mean? To recover, because all of that seizes up if you don't, you don't get the exercise. If you don't do that rehab. Right, right. Any of these athletes, you know, that tore that ACL or anything like that, the surgeon does a surgery, but it's like a hand-in-hand thing. You cannot get back like Odell, when he tore his ACL, you know, Adrian Peterson back in the day, you know, or anybody that had any kind of injuries. Let me ask you something. Who was something, because I see you with a lot of the NFL players. Who are some of the guys that you've pretty much helped to, you know, help them with their physical therapy? Man, of course, you know, Taylor Garryville, I helped Taylor Garryville, I helped Rashard Higgins, he's with the Browns right now. You worked with him before? Yeah, I worked with Marlon Brown, he's retired as well. He played for the Ravens, he played for the Broncos and the Bears with Taylor. Man, who else I worked with? I worked with, man, I can't even, I can't even think of everybody. I know I've seen you work with a lot of them. Yeah, I worked with a lot of people, man. Quincy Atta Boyge, he played for the Ravens and the Patriots. I worked with a lot of people, man, who are having cold men right now. I worked with him, man. Let me ask you this, what was the most extreme case where you've seen somebody that was really, really just, it was tough for him to come back. Man, I think about... Like in that movie with Queen Latifo when she... Yeah, it was tough, you know? Yeah, I think about my boy, he is a basketball player. And when he came back, it was like a full swan. Yeah, like, man, actually, man, now I'm starting to think of people. It was a, man, there's a couple of stories that are just popping up in my head. Popping up in my head, man. But for instance, I've been recently working with a lot of SMU football players. Okay. I didn't know exactly, man, to talk about God putting opportunities in front of you, man. Like SMU, multi-million dollar facility, you know? And I'm doing my thing, posting on Instagram, but people are watching and noticing. And one of the coach from SMU noticed that what I was doing, and he said, you know, I want them to come to you, you know? I trust you in what you do. So I was able to work with their starting running backs. They had like this one-two punch combo in the backfield of SMU. I didn't even know who they were, honestly, at that point. You know, I was just helping some young guys get better. So I was able to help both of them. And both of them had ankle injuries to where they weren't playing. Okay. At first game back, they combined for four touchdowns. So it was crazy. After that, you know, I got to meet and hit coach Sandy Dykes, which is now the TCU head coach. So I'll be working with them as well. So, but yeah, I was able to meet coach Dykes and coach Rashad Samples, you know, the young Samples, you know, he's up and coming. Yeah, I just heard, we just told about him, about the other guy that was here. But majority of your clientele are athletes. So I want to say, see, that's another misconception too. So athletes are kind of the cherry on top, you know, of what I do. And they really help with the marketing as well. I see that. Because people like, man, if these pro and collegiate athletes can trust you with their bodies, you know, me, you know, as a, the general population, I could trust you as well. So the general population is really what keeps the door, you know, swinging. Like, you know, that's who, that's who, that's my bread and butter. That's what I'll be thinking. I think it is like the car wrecks. Cause that's who go to physical therapy or chiropractor. What's there between a physical therapist and a chiropractor? That's a very good question. Chiropractors and physical therapists have a lot of overlap in what they do. Both, you know, use holistic medicine, basically using the body to kind of heal itself. You know, chiropractors are a lot, they deal with the spine a lot. That's a lot of what they learn in school. A lot of hands on their experts and all the manipulations of the spine from, you know, head to toe. And physical therapists, we learn a lot of that stuff too. But we kind of touch on it in school. So I did a residency where I specialized in sports and orthopedics where I learned a lot more. But physical therapy is more so help with the rehab of your body through exercise and understanding, you know, we, so we, there's physical therapists with orthopedic side, which what I do, like somebody ACL tear, hip replacement surgery, rotator cuff, you know, I do that. And then they have neuro physical therapy when somebody has a spinal cord injury where they're in a wheelchair. They're trying to teach people how to walk again or they have a traumatic brain injury or a stroke. They're going to see a physical therapist or you have home health physical therapies. You know, you have pediatric who work with kids. So we help basically get people, optimize their movement, help them moving good. Like let's say you hurt your knee, it's hard for you to walk. I teach you how to walk, run, jump again. You know what I'm saying? So we rehab in that aspect, you know, versus the chiropractors. So most car wrecks go to chiropractors and not physical therapists. Right, for most of the, but it depends, let's say you got a car wreck and you, you know, you fracture your shoulder, some of you got to get surgery or you don't have to get surgery. You're going to go to a physical therapy to rehab so you could use your shoulder again, your arm again. So that's what's going to go. Like let's say if you have, I've seen like a lot of people, like chiropractors, you have a neck pain after that. And you know, you need some adjustment stuff like that. They're going to go to a chiropractor, but physical therapists could also take care of you as well. There's a lot of great chiropractors out there. You know, shout out to all my boys doing chiropractors, Dr. Andrew Jackson, you know. Yeah, my boy, yeah. My boy, Adrian is so blessed, Dr. So blessed, Adrian. You know, there's some, there's some really good chiropractors out there. You know, Deondra, Dr. Diamond Minifield. So there's a lot of good chiropractors, you know, for sure, and they're doing some great work. We're just, we're just, just both helping people get better and, you know, but just a little bit of difference in what we do. Okay. Being a, being that, okay, I've seen you and I see this on Snapchat. You know, I'm crazy. I just, I'm thinking about the stuff that kind of weirded me out. There are these suction cups on these folks' backs and it looked like they just popping all up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. And I'm saying to myself, what the hell is that? And then leave a red mark. I'm saying, that gotta hurt. It relieves pressure. So I'm trying to figure out, I got the man here today. I don't need you to tell me. I haven't went to school for years for this. I am walking up on the moment of my question to the doctor himself over physical therapy and Mr. Maker want to answer the question. Now I want to know what that does, man. Like, and how long does it take to work and I might need to get me some cups on my back. Is that what they call them cups? Yeah, cupping. Yeah, cupping therapy. What is that? Cupping, so it's just a modality that's used to help optimize movement as well. So like I said, I did a residency that I learned. So I'm a certified sports and orthopedic manual therapist. So basically I worked to learn like hands-on manual. Wait a minute. Say that again. Yeah, no, he said it so fast. Let's get it one more time. C-S-O-M-T, so certified sports and orthopedic manual therapist. Okay. So I've trained in advanced techniques how to use my hands to help people, you know, get better, you know, other than, you know, the rehab with exercises and things like that. So, excuse me. So with the cupping, it's just basically another tool that's used to help increase blood flow. You know, in a sense, help break up some scar tissue and the adhesions within the muscle tissue and the skin. Help decrease pain, things like that to help, you know, with movement and things like that. That's what cupping does, you know, so. Thank you. That's what that is. Yeah, I've seen it. They get a lot of views on Snapchat. I'm being real. I see it. You probably don't see it. I see it. They get a whole section where they just show that stuff popping off people's back. You've seen it? No. You've never seen it? So a lot of people kind of overdo it, you know. It's just meant to kind of help. It's not cupping. I think it's not going to heal you on its own, you know. Honestly, it's not going to heal you on its own. It's just a tool like dry needle and there's another thing that I do which is kind of like acupuncture. Yeah, yeah. That's when they put all of these on and do it. That looks like it hurts. No, I mean, you might feel the initial prick, but it's very thin needle, but it's another thing to increase blood flow, kind of send a cortical response to the brain to send that message to whatever area that's in pain or that needs healing to, hey, this area needs blood flow. It needs nutrients. It needs, you know, it needs healing. You need to believe in that, so it works. Absolutely, it's there's science behind everything that I do, I'm a doctor, so that everything that I do has to be backed by some kind of research and it's not just, oh, this is supposed to help, but there's also, there's been hundreds of research articles done on anything that I do, whether that's exercise, you know, like just like, so that people ask, oh, doctor, you could write me a prescription. No, I'm not that type of, I'm not a physician. I'm a clinical doctor, so the difference between that, just because, you know, just like your doctor prescribes you medicine, you know, I prescribe you exercise to help that shoulder get back. So I know that, I know I've been, I studied tendon healing times. I know at what point and times it okay for you to lift your shoulder. I know at what point at times it okay to add some weight resistance or should we just be doing just active range of motion? You just lifting it by yourself. I know what range of motion is supposed to be throughout each, you know, okay, the first six weeks we're just gonna do this and then after that next week we're gonna do this. So you don't just rehab all, there's a science and a method behind everything that you do. There's a protocol that these surgeons have and physical therapists should be aware of when rehabbing somebody, whether it's ankle injury, back surgery, knee surgery, anything like that, from head to toe. So there's a science behind it. I think that's another thing that again separates chiropractors from physical therapists. So we know that protocol of, you know, not to say that chiropractors can't learn that. But the surgeon entrusts us with the protocol of when to do what with each patient, depending on the specific injury that they occur. It occurs, yeah. So come here, I should ask you this, in physical therapy, if you practice it here, can you go to another state and do the same thing? There's all over different places. Right, so man, you quizzing me on my physical therapy practice, you know? But yes, I just took my jurisprudence exam not too long ago to renew my license. Every two years we have to renew our license or whatever. But so you could go practice in another state, but then it depends on how long. Like if you're moving there, you gotta apply, you gotta apply for a temporary license because there's travel physical therapists and stuff like that. So they'll go to different states and you can practice for a certain amount of time. But if you're staying there, you gotta apply for a license in that state, different things like that. So, but yeah, so yeah, we could, like I could travel and, you know, and see different teams and, you know, like the athletes and stuff like I would travel and, you know, like I'm going to Detroit, you know, Tuesday actually, to do some work. Yeah, right, right. So there's different things that, you know, we could do in different states, you know, but it just depends how long you're going to be in that state if we have to apply for a license. Yeah, because I've been to a chiropractor and I've been to a physiotherapist. And I remember at a physical therapist, I felt like they were working me out more and not putting me on machines. Right. You know what I mean? When I go to a chiropractor, they hook me up to all of these and say, okay, now stay right there for 30 minutes and then you're done. Yeah, you're done. So I say physical therapy is more, we're hands on as well. We're hands on and then you'll do, well, my job, I always tell people my job is for me, it's for you not to need me anymore, right? You know, some people say, man, I've been going to my chiropractor for six months, man, I love him. Like dang, don't take our baby for the same nickname for six months, you ain't better yet. You know, so like my job is, you know, I'm gonna evaluate you. Every patient, I don't just, you don't just come in and we just start working. You're gonna understand that I understand what's going on with you. And I'm gonna let you know, okay, this is what, from what you're telling me, I think that this is what's my working hypothesis on what's going on. And then after that, then I'm gonna back it up with some special tests to see, okay, is this what I'm gonna do like two tests to see to kind of back up my hypothesis. And if it's sure that this is what it is, then we're gonna come up with a plan to a rehab plan to then rehab you and get you back to what you want to like, I know your goals from talking to you, then we come up with a plan to get you right. So then that includes hands-on stuff that includes, you know, in-house exercises, therapeutic exercises, neuromuscular reeducation, different things like that. And then I'm gonna give you a home exercise program because you only see me two or three days after a week, what about the time when you're not seeing me? You know, we could lose all what we've gained. So I give people a home exercise program, like three, two or three exercises to do because if I give them more, they ain't gonna do it. They ain't doing that. So I give them just some simple that they understand that while they're doing it to get rid of this neck pain or this back pain and it's helping, they see that progress and they understand that I understand them, you know. So again, that's why I chose physical therapy. I get to connect with people and they get to see. You've always been a people's person. But in order for them to come and see you, do they have to get a recommendation from a doctor or can somebody just walk through your door and say, I need to see a physical therapist? Both. So now in the state of Texas, you can see we have direct access now. So where you can walk in and for 10 consecutive days you could get physical therapy from physical therapy. Now, if they're residency trained they went to a resident like me. So I'm a specialist in sports and orthopedias. Now I can see people for, I believe it's 14 days. So two weeks, I can see people before they need a physician referral and then a physician referral them over. But how, like for instance, how we keep all like, if you wanna keep that revolving door versus just people just walking in, it's good to have a referring physician, whether that's orthopedic surgeon, a pain management doctor, podiatrist, whatever it may be that sees patients. Cause put like this, if you walk into a doctor, orthopedic doctor and like, man, doc, man, my back's been hurting for the past six months, man. I don't know what's going on. And if he thinks that, okay, it's not bad enough for him to have to operate on your back, he may give you some pain medicine or the steroid dose pack or any kind of pain medicine or something like that. Or may not give you that or say, hey, you need to go to a physical therapist. Let's try physical therapy for six weeks or so or whatever the physical therapist thinks is appropriate for you. And then if you're good with that, then we're good. Surgery should always be a last resort. I'm a lot of people, I wanna really educate the people on that just because your shoulder hurts, you know, it doesn't mean automatically surgery. Rotate the curves and all that. My partner did that. He been going back, he never got his shoulder back right. Some people are just lazy. They just want a quick fix with anything that they do. And the thing is, is it a quick fix? Cause you're going, like you said, like you don't get that surgery, but it's not back to where it was ever, you know, where it used to be. Sometime I know we can get back to where it was before you got to operation. Exactly, so we gotta go hand in hand. Can a patient then, okay, I go into the doctor, I'm having the shoulder pain and so forth. And they said, okay, I need physical therapy. Can I say to them, well, can you refer me to this doctor? Absolutely, absolutely. That kid, it's all the patient's choice to where they wanna go to. You know, a surgeon, sometimes they could recommend where they want you to go. You know, I got a couple of surgeons that have seen my work and they trust my work. Cause it's all about a surgeon, they wanna look good, honestly. Because they do your shoulder surgery, they wanna, it's all about having a good patient outcome. I was like, okay, this patient was able to go back and use his shoulder and do what he did after I did the surgery. So the physical therapist helps the surgeon with that. So you have a good surgeon, you gotta have a good physical therapist. Cause then if you don't, and let's say you somebody's got a total knee replacement and they can't bend their knee to get into their car or get into the tub and they shower, little small things like that affect you. And if you're not going to good physical therapy, you can't get that from just a surgery. You gotta have that rehab and getting back right consistently. Yes, a patient can say yes, I wanna go to Dr. Emmanuel Fasanya, Dr. Ida P.T. and come in and- Ida P.T. is what I'm calling, I like that. So what's your dad have to say about you? Now, now, yeah, we're back. Oh yeah, my dad is very proud of where I am now. You know, and I kind of fall in his footsteps cause he opened his own practice as well back in Nigeria. You know, I got his blood flowing through my veins. So that's the same thing. Like right after school, I did that residency. So I worked for a year and right after that residency, I went into opening my concierge PT. You know, and that's another story right there because talking about being, I was working at a clinic to where it was one of the top in Dallas working with a cowboy surgeon, a Maverick surgeon. So I got to learn a lot there. And, you know, but I was the only one, not man, like only, you know, a person that looked like me in that deal, you know. So, you know, I dealt, you know, and I'm dealing with the Highland Park, you know, population and everything like that. So I'm learning a lot, you know. But then at the same time, I got to prove a lot, you know, show that I know what I'm talking about. Here comes this young black dude and there's a CEO, this company coming in and, oh, you know, you're the one who's doing my rehab, you know, but then when they get me, man, they love me up there, you know, they love me, all the patients did, you know, but. Have you ever had somebody walk out just because they saw who you were? Oh yeah, I had some people try to change therapists because like, you know, they'll say, oh, they prefer working with a woman or something like, but I knew what it was, you know what I mean? I knew exactly what it was, man, man's crazy. At the end of that, at the end, I wasn't even supposed to jump into entrepreneurship that fast or that full-time, but at the end of my residency, I thought I was going to be hired on because, you know, the patients love me, so I never had any problems with any of the surgeons. But then, you know, the ladies just, you know, I came in for my review and she said, well, I want you to know the position has been filled. Long story short, I said the position has been filled and we won't be renewing your, you know, with us. God, look at God. I kind of sat back and I just kind of smiled and like, I guess she expected a different reaction out of me, you know, but I knew what it was, you know, and all the other therapists, they were, you know, they were sad, they wanted me to stay and the patients wanted me to stay. I got a whole bunch of cards and letters from patients. I got owner of multiple Chick-fil-A's, wrote me a letter of recommendation. Ain't no way you wouldn't want that person to stay, you know, but God had other plans. Man, God had her hating it. Now I see the elite alliance. Oh yeah, that's where it means to join, you know. Stop playing, elite alliance. I'm going to be honest. I plan on being a sponsor for that too. They ain't going to get away from me. I'm sponsoring everything. Yeah, they going to call me. And when is this opening? I'm shouting this out. So we're looking to open it in March, so it kind of accelerated my entrepreneur journey. I plan on doing it later on, you know, but after that happened, you know, I accelerated my journey and here we are. And that happened, last time I worked for a company was October 16th, 2020. You know, I've been a full-time entrepreneur since then doing my own thing. So now we have a elite alliance physical therapy. Where? Do you have a location? So we're going to be, yeah, we already, you know, got the location in the Dallas Medical District across from UT Southwestern Park. So, all I know is when you get ready to open up, when y'all get, you got to come back on the show. You got to let us know that you're opening. All that's got to happen. You know what I'm saying? I got to be a sponsor for that too. Oh, yeah, for the grand opening. Yeah, yeah, I'll be there for the grand opening. I'm a sponsor. Oh, yeah. Y'all not getting away from me, bro. Yeah, yeah, y'all not. So go ahead and I think we got something we want to give you. Yes, sir. We have an award we would like to present to you. Oh, wow. It says presented to Dr. Immanuel B. Fasanya. Wow. It has your PT, your DPT, all of that on there. Wow, wow, wow. Okay, y'all, how did you say it? All of that. All of that on there. She can't read. It says in recognition of your determination, set forth to accomplish goals of becoming a doctor in PT then achieving it at such a young age. Wow, wow. Same man, we know you dedicated your heart to what you do. And we love you, man. You know that already. At the end of the day, we'll never forget what God. See, God put us through something, man. Say we all, listen, man, we know already what God did with y'all was remarkable for us to see. That's what we want y'all to know. That's why we always, we was always fans from behind the scenes. We might not have been at every event and not knew what was going on, but we love what God put in our life. All the people that God put through us, all the system that we've seen. And it's been a few more. You think it's just you and your boy Taylor, but I got some more people that God put through this store for some reason, he wanted me to touch him. And I got to touch God like y'all, man, and in a way to where I understood y'all taught me something. And that's the difference when you taught me something. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I needed to keep going. So thank you. Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you. Nah, man, we love you, man. You taught me something, I was at the scene. You said I put you in design, huh? You put me in my first designer, man. You also used to tell me you were a black man that owned something, you know what I mean? So it let me see that as well. Let all of us see that. And we all became that at a certain point in time in our life, so we appreciate that. We appreciate y'all, we saw black love, man. We saw that too. Man, yeah, yeah, y'all seen that earlier. I want to show y'all how y'all posted to hold it down. Oh yeah, we saw that real early. So I really appreciate y'all for being role models to us. Man, thank you so much, man. Like I said, man, you couldn't wrote this out, man. I love you, but I know you already know you can come here if you ever need me, man. And I'm gonna be watching, and I'm gonna be, what they call it, liking. Now you like that. Back in the day when y'all was here, was Facebook even going, it wasn't going strong. It wasn't going strong. It was Instagram. It was all about mind space. You gotta think, we talking about O9. Mind space, yeah. O9? It was all, Facebook probably came later on, probably like O9, bro. O9, it barely was, yeah, yeah. Zuckerberg hadn't got it all the way together yet. We ain't get on Instagram to college. That's right, that's right, man. So, man, I just want to tell you, thank you for coming on the show. We love you, brother. And we love the man that you both have big hands. You came to be the guy like me. Yeah, let's just be real, yeah. Because the whole time we doing the interview, I'm looking at him, I'm like, that voice, he's not a man. Yeah, he a man. He never had that deep voice, Well, it was kind of deep. It was kind of deep. Yeah, man. The boy, he was a dancing dude. They had him going on. I know, I remember that. You know, Dallas, we like to boogie a little bit. Oh, yeah, it was going down, man. Check it, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. Okay, Immanuel, we here at Boss Talk Podcast 101 would love to present you with this award. It says to Dr. Immanuel Fasana, P-T-D-P-T-C-S-O-M-T in recognition of your determination, set forth to accomplish goals of becoming a doctor in P-T, then achieving it at such a young age, 2020. Thank you so much, man. That means a lot to me. That means a lot to me. Think it out, yeah. We had not really good water here, bro. Oh, yeah, I appreciate that, man. You sure, man.