 We're here, a mirror show, interchange maker, whatever. This, we're gonna do this collab of all collabs. There's one camera there, one camera here, so that's why maybe you'll see our heads going like this a little bit. But we're gonna give you guys as much of an interesting type of conversations as we usually have. We just thought it would be really cool to kind of bring our energies together, do this little collaboration. You know, we're just talking right before we started. I was like, you know, mirror, I'm really curious on how you get things done. Because I've only known you for like the last, I don't know, 18 months, maybe two years. And I saw some older video, like when I first saw you, like I know that you were doing the health stuff. You were like crushing in health. I saw like two or some videos on YouTube for health. Then you were like internet marketer, I think that's when I started meeting you. And then I knew you were investing in other companies. Recently, you launched Block Eaks, which is a blockchain, crypto currency, startup, you're doing some really amazing things with that. We're gonna talk about that because I'm curious that I'm always willing to learn from somebody that talks about such interesting topics. How do you like switch your head around things? Because I know last time we talked, you said you're a connoisseur of life. You love things that keep you interested. So how do you, like when you jump to something like internet marketing, crypto currency, everything is like, people looking, it's like really complicated. So how do you go about like taking action, but also like validating it as you go? Does that make sense? Yeah, I wanna say I validate anything per se. Okay. Obviously there's business validation, but actually entering a marketplace, I don't validate, I just follow my gut. And for me, like thinking about, I always tell people this, I'm like, listen, we're this like meaty flesh creatures living on this planet, the spinning like thousands of miles per hour in the fucking universe. And it's like, what do you gotta worry about? It's like you're here for like this. It's like you blink your day, right? We're only renting this time on this planet over here. So make the most of them and do whatever you wanna do. There's no such thing as failing. There's no such thing as winning. It's just you doing life and that's it. I think people, this is funny thing. The most important commodity you have on this planet is time, it's not renewable. You can't buy it. You can buy more time of the future. So delegating tasks or getting chefs or getting somebody to help you around the house or getting somebody, just different hands. You can actually buy future time but you can't go in the past and buy time. But yeah, everybody for some reason gives it out. Like it's the most freely forming commodity that's always renewable, non-stop. They just give it out. So yeah, sure, here's my time. I look at this and I'm like, fuck that. I have, my time is so precious. I will not give people chances for coffee whenever they want, like who are you? Like why do you wanna even talk to me? Energy vampires, fuck I cut them out of my life like this. So I'm very protective of my time because I can't buy it back at all. And therefore, if you can't buy back time and you have a very finite amount of time on this planet, make the most of it. You wanna go do something, do it. You wanna go do a new business, do it. You wanna have more kids, have more kids. You wanna go on a trip around the world. Go trip around the world, man, who's a fuck? Cause literally, like I just said a second ago, we're just like flesh beings on the planet spending a thousand kilometers an hour in the galaxy. Think about that, we're nothing special. You know what I mean? We put ourselves on these pedestals and like we're so afraid to do things. I'm like, just go out, man. Everything can be put into perspective when comparing to other things. So I always say compare ourselves to like the galaxy, compare ourselves to the universe, compare ourselves to time, we're a speck. Yeah, just like a little tiny dot. And it's crazy, you know, we're chatting before like people that don't take action and don't go out there and do the things that they wanna do. Like it's insane because you're just spending, you're literally wasting time, right? And you're just staying where exactly where you are and not moving forward, even if you have to fail forward. You gotta keep moving forward, right? So tell us about your like recent, not recent. I mean, it's been a little while, but like how this like love affair of cryptocurrency kind of kicked off for you. Because obviously it's something that is quite intriguing to a lot of us. Maybe, you know, I'm definitely not as educated and not quite the expert, but you know, what kickstarted this kind of like, why did you start loving cryptocurrency so much? Well, naturally speaking, I'm a rebel of heart. Yeah, I don't like it. Going against the system, right? Like there's a lot of things in there. I don't like anybody telling me what to do or how to behave or any, you know, I'm very anti-authority, but not positively. But I got into Bitcoin like everybody else. I heard about this like Bitcoin thing. Yeah. Let's see, about two, three years ago. And I didn't really get into that as in like, okay, let me take a deep dive. Like if you talk to most people to hear of it and they don't just dive in, like I mean, buy a bunch of Bitcoin and play around with it and it's like, oh, I heard of this thing. Not knowing what it is, but just hearing of it. I heard of it. Yeah, I heard of it. And been following it for a while, keeping, I'm gonna say close tabs on it, but a fair bit of distance away from it by just investigating it. And then about two years ago, a good friend of mine's son created Ethereum, which has kind of evolved version of Bitcoin or I would say the evolved technology of Bitcoin. So blockchain is a technology that makes Bitcoin possible. That's why, so they're not the same, but they're connected because the first blockchain was created by, that's the funny thing about Bitcoin. We really don't know who created it or what created it or what organization. This is a person called Satoshi Nakamoto. We have no idea if it's an individual, if it's a group, if it's a foundation, I really don't know. There's a crazy mythos behind Bitcoin, right? So it's kind of like the God of Bitcoin. Actually, when you view Bitcoin, it's a religion because it's like you have to save here that comes after 2008 after the crash. That's why Bitcoin came out about seven, eight years ago. So they draw a lot of parallels in the story. Yeah, totally. So this one Messiah, this Satoshi Nakamoto, you have no idea who he is. He gets a couple of evangelistic disciples on the internet, like seven of them, eight of them, to start helping him out, building stuff. And everything grows organically. So it's spreading like wildfire everywhere. We have no idea who this Messiah is. We have no idea where he's located. We have nothing to know about him at all. So it's quite, there's a lot of parallels when it comes to religion. But going back to my story, so my friend's son created Ethereum about two years ago and that's when my mind really blew up because of like, holy fuck, for the longest time it's just currency. So we had Bitcoin as like, I give you a dollar, you give me a dollar, I wanna buy something, I give you Bitcoin, you give me that product, right? But now, through the evolution of the technology itself, blockchain, you can do a million more different things. You can have contracts online. You can sell property deeds online. You can now solve identity issues. Now you can give people in third world countries about two billion people around the world that don't have a bank account, they have the possibilities of now having different forms of blockchain wallets online. So they can literally have a Swiss bank account. Not an actual Swiss bank account, but the same features of a Swiss bank account on their phone, instantaneously, no one can do anything about it. Now you have two billion people who are unbankable, the governments, the institution, the foundations, they didn't wanna give them any banking power, now they have power all they need is a cell phone and internet connection. So that's when my mind was like, holy fuck, I get involved in this exact same time serendipitously. I was evolving from the current company, so I had an e-commerce company, I was doing consulting at the time being. And then I'm like, all right, how do I get involved more in the space? I started consulting a bunch of Bitcoin blockchain companies and marketing, obviously, that's my shtick. And then BlockGeeks came automatically, meaning I had the same question pop up numerous times. Investors wanted to get into the space, but they didn't know where to start. A lot of people, like yourself, like what the fuck is Bitcoin, what is blockchain? You're like, me or where can I go? I'm like, I don't know. Down the rabbit hole in redhead, and you're like, oh, here's this article. Here's this, we know, six minute video over here. Yeah, and it's exact same time. Other companies are looking for developers, they're looking for talent to do R&D, and I'm like, it frustrated me that it was more than seven years at that time, and since Bitcoin came out and nobody had a center point. Like one resource, they're like, hey, you wanna get a job, you can go here, you wanna know about Bitcoin, blockchain, yada, yada, yada, you can go here, you got a question, you can ask a question, and I'm like, this is crazy. And the name, the name just popped into me like, I'm a geek too, and BlockGeeks, and boom, I checked the TM, it's available. It's all quick, it wasn't me like studying the place. I kept on getting these Dan questions from everybody, I'm like, all right, I gotta create this. Well, you see, this is what I mean, right? Like you notice, you're an observer of what's happening around you, you notice that you have this passion for it, you notice that there's nothing in the marketplace like this, it's not like you sat at home and you ask people, and you're kind of like, validated or what have you, you just made moves. And all of a sudden, I notice you guys, I saw you post, you guys got like 50,000 people at the website, you guys are doing... Exploding, man, exploding. Yeah, you guys are doing these crazy things, and it's like, holy crap, that was only a few months ago. Yeah, last month, total visits, we had almost a quarter million organic visits and like sustainable visits, about 65,000. So Amir, you're not wasting your time, that's for sure. No, no. You're moving. But it's also engineering your day, and then, you know, obviously getting the right partners and there's a lot of hard work, and there's obviously, there's a lot of trial and error. And what's really important about not wasting time though, is like, I do wanna stress the fact that if you are going into something new, like for example, we said these numbers, like a quarter million, and people are like, oh my God, quarter million, but listen, I have seven years of knowledge when it comes to marketing online. It wasn't like, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm gonna get a quarter million views on my website, I don't know nothing. You have to have knowledge and talent to back up your passions that you have at the moment. I'm not a believer, I'm not in the campus saying follow your passion, I'm not at all. Because you can follow your passion to play the guitar, but guess what, maybe you fucking suck at the guitar. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna pay you shit, but help. Come back to me five years later when you're dope. Then I'll pay you. All right. Because you're adding value to me, you're making me happy. But if you're there, get out of here, man. You gotta put in the time and get talent in anything you're doing. So if you're starting a new startup, whatever it is, man, you gotta have the talent. And this is directly tied into raising money. When you raise money, you're not raising money for your company, you're raising money for you and your team. Because investors trusting you and your team to execute on the cash. They're making on you. Yeah, your knowledge, your experience, your leader, everything, the whole nine yards, you as a human being. I'm like, can I trust this guy to lead that team with the money I give them? Not like, can I trust the company itself? Right. See, investors really don't care about your product or service, they care about you. Do you have the chops to execute on what you're promising? And I would say about 99% of the time the reason people don't raise money is just because they have improved themselves towards their investors. Yeah, that's it. And they haven't spent that time on themselves and really putting those hours hustling but in a strategic way to really demonstrate to the marketplace and also the team, investors, whatever it is, to themselves, to sell them on it, right? What industries do you think are to get? I know you think a lot of industries are going to get. I would say all of them, but obviously... What are the immediate ones then? Well, right now, I made it there as a financial one. Right, because it's the easiest one for the coin and everything. Every single bank is getting involved there. Every single insurance company is getting involved. Every single exchange, every single stock market exchange is getting involved. So that's a huge one. Like I just said a second ago, now imagine two billion people all they need is a cell phone and internet connection and they can have now a bank account that's encrypted that even if they're a bank, a phone, get this. So even if your phone is stolen and you memorize this set of code, like a mnemonic code. So let's say it's eight different words, like hello, pink, juice, purple, orange, whatever. And you get a new phone and say your phone was stolen. You can actually type in that mnemonic and whoever has your stolen phone, that gets all erased and put on your new phone. Right? Yeah, it's amazing technology. But the potentialities of creating a true global e-commerce is finally here. You know, they talk about like capitalism. We talk about like the freedoms. Yeah, there is. We're living very abundant in times, but it's controlled abundance. It's controlled abundance. You know, like why is it in 2016 that when I'm sending $5,000 to Hong Kong to one of my businesses, it takes me 72 hours on a wire transfer and cost me $5? Yeah. Why? The other day I can send $5,000 in Bitcoin, which is like five time right now. It's like, who fuck? $50,000. Wait, wait. Yeah, it's like $50,000 Canadian as it say. It's a lot. So if I send 5,000 Bitcoins to Hong Kong, I can literally do in less than two hours and cost me probably, I don't know, like 75 cents. Yeah. Like this, real time. And more encrypted than the bank. Mm-hmm. And more safe. Much more. And onto my phone. Not onto somebody's bank account. That's the thing, like bank hours close. What do you mean close? That's my fucking money. Yeah. I want my money. So yeah, the financials are the first thing that afterwards you'll see more. I think identity is a massive thing. So there's a bunch of companies. For example, there's one called BankQ. They're working with the United Nations right now. And big issue around the world, whether that is second world country, third world country, is a lot of times property is stolen, right? Right. So war happens. All these people come in and say, I own the land. No? Yeah. Someone comes in and I own it. I own it. Well, who really owns it? Yeah. So there's a lot of theft going on and also theft for property, theft for even like insurance policies in other countries. Like it's pretty fucked up shit. So the blockchain is coming in and they're actually putting the property deeds and titles of like say insurance policies and properties online. So like regardless of where you are, let's say you like leave the country, war happens or maybe like a natural disaster happens. And let's say all your like official papers. Like even today, like if you buy a house in Toronto, I gotta have a stupid fucking paper. I gotta go to a lawyer. He has notarized the paper. Make sure it's like shit. Right. You go to the bank, right? I mean that's old school. So what happens? I don't have to paper. Then I gotta go to city hall or one of the copied papers off at city hall. Well, regardless of what happens to the physical paper, it's on the blockchain validated. So no one can come and steal your property. No one can claim your property because it's on there. So there's a lot of companies working on there to actually give power back to the people who are getting robbed. We have a couple like investment properties that I manage. And one of the things that I think is super outdated and like kind of like, okay, it's these checks. Every time you, like people have to give you 12 checks. Anybody who's rented a place, you have to pay first and last. You have to give them 10 posted to checks. And then if the checks isn't clear, then you have to like call the person back. So you're saying with this system, definitely you wouldn't necessarily have to go through that because it's tied to that person as well. Yeah, so there's people working on just for rentals. And also just for Airbnb. So for example, let's say I want to Airbnb, I go to Airbnb, you can have like a Bitcoin or kind of like a crypto Visa card attached to it. I go in, everything is good. The contract is executed once I leave. You get the money automatically. So this whole idea of like any, we need to escape the world of physical paper. The idea of checks, the idea of, the logistics is a big issue. So the fact that I have to transfer you a piece of paper, you have to spend your time walking to the bank. The bank holds it for seven days because it's a new check. They want to make sure it's not fraudulent or anything like that. That's crazy. But when you have money online or there's cryptocurrency or even like a fiat crypto mix, you can have like a hybrid, that's validated instantaneously. So you can literally send me money and it's validated on the spot. And I have it on my phone, like nobody holds it. Like it's, I can literally have a million dollars in my fucking phone. Yeah, think about that. In my phone. Then this is, I'll get even crazier. I can now scan that and make it into QR code and put it on a, let's say like a piece of paper. And then when it's on piece of paper, that piece of paper is worth a million dollars because it has a code on it. As the code and that ties back to you, right? Yeah. That's nuts. Man, this is fascinating stuff because I think we're, it's 2016, about to be 2017. It'll be cool when we like look back on this in like, I don't know, a few years. But I mean, man, like what an exciting time we're living in. A lot of people say that it's kind of like this weird like limbo because like we've experienced all this like, all this amazing like change in the last like five, 10 years of the internet. But there's all this new stuff coming like artificial intelligence, robotics, you know, AR, virtual reality, cryptocurrency. And it's like not quite there yet, right? So we're in this kind of like limbo to like the next evolution. Really curious, like what do you think? Do you have any, I don't know, like predictions or kind of like, what are some of your thoughts like on the next five to 10 years as we move to, you know, more of a paperless society as cryptocurrency starts taking over as more, you know, AR, VR stuff comes in. I mean, truthfully, like I'm a huge optimist when it comes to the future. But I'm a firm believer in prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Regardless of technology, whether it's cryptocurrency, AI, AR, VR, robotics, it doesn't matter the problem right now. And I think it's gonna become very turbulent for a little bit because the problem right now is not technology, it's the mindset of people. People are still programmed the old school way where it's very factory like programming where they follow society norms right from the get go from how your parents think into elementary school, into high school, into post-secondary university and you're pre-packaged to think a certain way. So you have to follow this linear path. And that path is very destructive for the consciousness of possibilities. And that's the issue right now. And I see it all the time, like you and I talk about this. I'm gonna walk on the streets and people look at us like we're fucking from the year 2030, like we're crazy. I actually have a hard time connecting and communicating with certain people. I just can, and that's all right. I only talk with awesome, cool people. Yeah, and we do kind of cool, weird stuff like this. So I believe it's gonna be kind of like a breakaway group of people within a society. So I think some people, and if you look at history, if you read the book, Guns, Germs and Steel or read any, that's an amazing book by the way, you'll notice that people who adapt technology first, the fastest and the people who are more open to change and open to evolution of society, they're the ones who win. And I think the whole idea of nation states of the future will probably obsolete. I don't see like Canada, United States being. I think we're gonna see more kind of like republics maybe in the future. Because this need of this, like think, for example, one president, like for example, Trump. I think that's such an archaic system where you have one president controlling 400 million people. It's so archaic. It became the leader of the most powerful country. Yeah, it's archaic, man, completely archaic. I think the whole model of even how we have a president or a prime minister or this elected one official, it's completely non-productive in the year 2016. And I think what a brand new system has to be created with that is like a decentralized or kind of like a 50-dumb republics where you have like a city state or like a city country like Singapore. Like, look what Singapore did in 50 years. Holy shit, GDP gone the move. It's insane. Like the growth in 50 years. And their population is 4.5 million. That's like very similar. Exactly, I was going exactly there. So yeah, going back to the future, I think the future is very bright like always. I think we're living in the most abundant time possible. I think we're also in the precipice of the biggest historical shift of society and what I mean by historical shift is like we're at that crossbridge with the old way of thinking or the old system of industrial revolution with the new way of thinking which may be like more automation robotics. Like for example, Pittsburgh has five self-driving Ubers on the road. San Francisco has self-driving Ubers. In Europe, they have full self-driving Volvo trucks, 18-wheeler trucks, about like 15 of them going across continental Europe. And like a lot of people have to understand like the old system is broken, completely broken. I wanna say broken is that it was actually engineered perfectly but the old system is not applicable today. So what society tells you is a norm, what school tells you is a norm is not the norm. It's actually a disadvantage for you to listen to what society tells you. It's a disadvantage for you to listen to what the educational system tells you because it's almost like comparing DOS to like a new iOS operating system. Everybody's still on DOS while you and I maybe are on iOS or Android. We're open source right now. We're open source Android right now and everyone's still on DOS like 1994. And I think it's gonna take more leaders such as Jay coming out and then speaking and using the resources that we have because YouTube wasn't around 10 years. Is it about 10 years old around? 10 years old. Yeah, so 10 years ago YouTube didn't exist and you have now Snapchat. You have all these different mediums. So even though people, this is an interesting thing. We view the world as very big but it's not. Like if you really think about all the leaders around the world like let's use social media as our data pool. How many people can count on your finger that you respect on YouTube like oh my God that person delivers massive value? How many people can you say I read their blogs deliver massive value? I would say now the bear to entry of entering any space is so low the amount of shit out there is garbage. Garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage. So I'm telling people if you want to change the future don't try to change people. I'm a firm believer in what Rumi said. Yesterday I was clever, I wanna change the world. Today I'm wise, I wanna change myself. So start with yourself, become the leader, speak out, educate people, add value. Don't become normal. This becoming, yeah normal is the worst. The worst thing possible is to be normal. You have to be different, become an outlier and become contrarian. Think outside the box. Completely think differently. And if everybody's going right go left. Anytime you hear anybody talking absolutes like this is exactly like you know why I know blockchain and Bitcoin is gonna explode cause every motherfucker that I know is saying it won't. As soon as you hear anybody and especially when there's a tipping point that people saying it won't, you know I can bet my houses on it that it's gonna happen. Well it's just kind of like not to make this political by any means but everybody I would say majority of the world that's fair to say did not think Trump was gonna win. But you know it's funny I was actually reading Propaganda, Edward Berners I know you recommended but like when someone is so like when there's so much press talking about why that person can't do it it's almost the same as saying like you know celebrating them in a way that they it's not highlighting that they can do it but his name was out there like every second of the time and it was like man there's a really great chance he could why are you right away he's gonna win? Right away, right away, right away. You know the ingredients to the recipe were there and it was a perfect combination everything like for the first time ever you have somebody not part of the establishment for the first time ever you have somebody who's speaking their mind regardless if you like what he said you know obviously he says some like interesting things regardless like here's a person that's breaking everybody's norms and in NLP we call it pattern interrupt. He was interrupting everyone's pattern he goes on stage yeah beat that guy up pay for your bill and you know grab her by the whatever like people are like what the fuck who's this guy you know Right, right exactly so he's giving you a shock doctrine treatment and breaking your patterns and then people are like I can kind of relate to this guy you know and Hilary she's the definition of the corrupt well she followed everything by the book she's part of the problem she is the problem so people are fed up completely fed up and you know people like pooping on Trump I don't know man I'm a firm believer and give a person due credit or I'm gonna say due credit give a person a chance you know he was democratically elected this is my other like beef is like now you're bitching because democracy worked Right because he played the system he played the whole media all the stuff that people said that they didn't like he just was smarter enough to run by a landslide yeah like it wasn't close no he crushed it and that's amazing give the man an opportunity and let's time speak for itself instead of you fucking bitching and moaning I think people just empower themselves like listen governments don't care about you I'm sorry they just fucking don't you need to care about yourself you need to figure out how you can become the best version of yourself don't rely on government pension don't rely on government programs don't rely on anything from the the worst is relying on government security anytime you have to rely on anybody you're fucked you're fucked you're in a disadvantage situation because now you are a slave to that institution you are a slave so figure out how you can empower you and your family so becoming smarter at what you do having more opportunities creating more wealth becoming healthier thinking outside the box reading interesting people's works or watching interesting videos and like really understanding how the world really works I think you're gonna have you're gonna have a massive benefit and advantage of everybody else because everybody's consuming the same shit listening to the same shit and therefore becoming very robotic-like it's like the movie where Christian Bale the first original matrix they call it it was called equilibrium yeah equilibrium was it equilibrium? I haven't heard this but I'm gonna like check it out it was like the Aurelian future where there's no emotions allowed and it sounds this sounds this sounds so I'm gonna find it oh, a sick fucking movie yeah, like I I don't know if it's equilibrium or something like that but it was like a first it was kind of like the inspiration for the matrix incredible yeah, well Christian Bale, yeah well, you know what's funny like what you're saying is like you know, there's so many people that are telling people like, oh, you should do this like, you should be like, you know, as you're saying I'm like, you know this is part of the reason why we're probably entrepreneurs is because you have figured out a way to think for yourself and you've figured out at one point or another you're gonna say okay, you know what? I believe this to be this is my framework yeah you could copy take what works for you from it but don't take what I say as like gold because this is just what's working for me right and so much of what we've talked about you know, we've talked about some amazing things but like it's it's at the end of the day you have to start thinking for yourself and start realizing you know what? Like, do I believe this and what backs us up? You know, so I love and I say question everything everything question your religion question what your parents tell you question what society tells you and do I wanna say I would say become your own detective I think we take everything as her say like anything we hear from anybody is like oh, that must be true yeah and this is the you know, for example we look at social media social media it's it's very interesting social media it's it's innate it's not good or bad it's just that it's a technology but the exact same time and the manipulation going on there is quite dangerous I think I think at least spending a day or two without any social media per week is really healthy I was just on the subway right now and everybody's a slave I see everybody's just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling I'm like, fuck, man everyone's passive no one's proactive no one's actually reading books no one's writing no one's actually using their brain but just absorbing information it's almost like we're going to the society of idiocracy from the movie you know, what's his face? Luke Wilson yeah, idiocracy if you haven't seen it, see it it's almost like a mockumentary or a real documentary we have so many movie suggestions in this one but man, just fuck, man so, okay, let me ask you this before we kind of like wrap up here but you mentioned autonomous cars I mean, I find it fascinating like if you're a truck driver watching this man, it's it's kind of crazy like what's happening to an entire industry where people are like oh, I have to be in a car and be active driving all this time and then we think about Uber and how all the different protests have been happening in the last couple of years and imagine there's Uber, self-driving cars you know, now nobody like no one's going to have no one's going to be a driver there's going to be probably some Uber delivery working with Amazon sure something around that yeah but at the end of the day I think the taxi industry, Uber drivers and any transportation's about to be disrupted because I'll give you an example I said this the other day if I take an Uber from downtown Toronto to North York where I live if it's by myself it's about like 30-ish dollars I think Uber pool obviously that splits among whoever goes in the car yeah, so let's say four of us is like maybe like 12 bucks each or whatever you know, so it's quite affordable at that rate going you know, like I think like 17 kilometers or something sure it's super cheap well, what happens when this happens where Uber does not have to pay anybody so a self-driving car comes and picks me up with somebody else they don't have to have a they don't have to charge 30, 40 bucks regular rate there's nobody to pay they own the car so for them to profit they can easily just charge 20 bucks for the trip split among four people so my original price of like say 10 to 12 dollars split is cut in half so I'm paying like 6 bucks or so to go to North York from downtown Toronto yeah what does this do to our public transportation system? good, we need competition our public transportation system in Toronto fucking sucks it's a disease listening get your shit fucking together terrible horrible, horrible shit I refuse to take it most majority of the time is garbage garbage okay, but okay, so here's my question if we have self-list driving cars yeah cars that drive itself yes what do we what do you think like do you think like we're gonna start decking out like are we gonna have self-list cars where it becomes our like mobile office? of course right like are we like are we gonna be doing an interview in a car? why not? just like we have a driver why not? what have you or we could do a webinar or whatever it is why not, VR right in the car VR right in the car like or do you think like there'll be any I don't know particular I'm sure there are companies that are like will move into the space and start capitalizing because that will become time yeah essentially well the biggest problem the biggest hurdle is not self-driving cars the technology is very old it's not complicated it's just a bunch of lasers and cameras that's all it is like it's an echo sonar lasers they've been testing for years yeah that's all they use photons to go back and forth to the thermal distance it's not complicated tech however the problem right now is the insurance policies that's the biggest kind of like hurdle in front of them because let's say I have a self-driving car Jay does and we crash well whose fault is it? yours I don't want my race to go up and then laws on the road do you need a license anymore like what happens is there a default feature like if in case something happens you want to now grab it to manual mode so then do you need a license like there's so many these legality issues so but the biggest hurdle right now is insurance policies and they're trying to figure out ways like well we're literally at the time where we're going to have hybrids like say even 10% of cars would be like self-driving and 90% will be manual well something happens what are the laws? I read something like this the other day where it said the reason why we don't have more selfless cars on the road is because there's actually too many human drivers on the road and so if it was all selfless cars they would know how to kind of operate within each other I'm going to say this I bet in our lifetime certain places in the world will make it illegal for humans to drive because it'd be too dangerous way too dangerous we suck at drive I'm sorry but we suck and suck at driving it'll be like that Will Smith movie where he goes and like manual like overrides whenever the system and then they're like you're driving manually are you crazy? we're not good drivers computers smarter they're not distracted by our phone which everybody's on their phone they don't get tired you know they're not wired they don't have any of these human biological biological properties so for me I can't wait till I can just jump in my car and like take me there but I just do work and take a nap yeah you know what I mean like whatever I don't care well you know what I think that's another opportunity for not just for people to you know like I think that's another opportunity for like how people leverage their time yeah right there like can you be like what are you going to choose to do in in this like self-driving car are you going to scroll through Facebook yeah you know are you going to scroll through YouTube or are you going to decide to you know leverage that hour or two that you get back now probably a lot more of you're on the road all the time yeah and are you going to be able to move your business for it your life for it all these things so I don't know that I don't know just an opportunity to think about massive opportunities like I'm so excited for the future I'm so excited for the possibilities that people have there's so many new opportunities people have to make money so even more opportunity and people need to understand this it's not just about making money as being an entrepreneur it's like there's so many ways you can now supplement different forms of income whether that is ubering whether that is Airbnb what that is like for example one of my mom's friends she'll grab old furniture it's from a garage sales and she'll make it and she's the artisan so she'll spend maybe a weekend and she'll make it look nice and polish it and furnish it she goes on Etsy and sells on Etsy she kills it she makes like an extra like 500 bucks a thousand a week and she works whole time too yeah right there you go yeah so there's you have so many different opportunities to supplement your income and it's just going to grow more and more and more and more yeah absolutely Amir it's always fascinating you know getting a chance to sit down and chat with you where can people figure out or socially stalk you or follow you just go to my personal stuff amirrosic.com or any of my social just amirrosic yeah all right man cool jane pleasure man yeah cheers