 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the stream. Today, we're going to be looking at how to look at it, sound better, and present better in Zoom using Ecamm Live and also Stream Deck, something that I've covered a lot on the channel in various different videos before. But this is really a sort of follow on from the session that I did as part of the Ecamm Live Zoom workshop just last week. And so in there, I was talking about sort of managing the tech and using these three things together. So I thought I'd just build on that a little bit more and do a little bit of further workshopping, if you like, and live demonstrations of how to get things set up. So specifically today, I thought we would look at how to set up a few scenes in Ecamm. We did do this in the previous session as well, but we'll set up a couple of different scenes here. So first of all, just a couple of basic scenes. When I'm on consultations calls with people to help them set up their Ecamm and Zoom and stuff like that, this is the sort of first thing is like what scenes do I actually need? And how do we do it? Because if you're used to working in Zoom, then you'll be used to doing screen sharing in Zoom and things like that. And so we want to get away from all of those things that are built into Zoom and do it in Ecamm is going to be so much simpler. So we'll set up some basic scenes. And then what we'll do is we will have a look also at how to bring in a guest presentation as well. So then we'll set up the scenes needed for that. And then we'll go over to somebody joining on interview mode because one of the questions that often comes up certainly in the Ecamm group is, you know, how do we go about getting somebody in on interview mode? What do they see from their side? Certainly these are the questions that I get at least. And what's the sort of whole process for that? And specifically, if you want to bring somebody in where they're not just a guest, but they're actually sharing a presentation, how do we use how do we do that? It's actually pretty simple as with most things. It's just a series of small simple steps. So we'll go and walk through that today. And then we'll also look at the audio and video settings that you need for going into Zoom from Ecamm and then how to set that up in Zoom as well, so that you're getting the best quality audio and video, because there are a few different things that you can do in Zoom to actually improve the performance that you're going to get out of it. So it's not just a case of, you know, turning on the virtual camera and virtual mic in Ecamm, sending that into Zoom, and then you're good to go. There are some things in Zoom side that we need to adjust as well. And really it comes down to the fact that Zoom is assuming that you know nothing and that you have got poor audio and poor video quality. So they do lots of things which are really helpful to people who are using their built-in microphones and built-in cameras and things like that. But when you are taking a little bit more care and attention about things, and you've got good quality video and good quality audio, then we need to turn some of those little sort of training wheels off. We don't need the stabilizers. So that's what we'll be looking at today. Now, I'm talking about Ecamm. I know that everybody in the chat is well aware of what Ecamm Live is. But just because of the title of this video, for those watching on the replay, if you're finding this for the first time, I should probably explain what Ecamm Live is. So Ecamm Live is a live production software for the Mac. It's what I'm using to do this whole live stream. It's what I use to make all of my videos on my YouTube channel. And it allows you to bring in various different cameras, things like that, just as we've got here, but I could have different camera angles if I wanted, and bring them all together and create a series of different scenes. And that's actually what we'll be doing next. But then you can add also graphic overlays, videos, images, just like you can see over here, and record or live stream from the Mac. But the thing that really makes it amazing and especially for today is because as well as being able to record in live stream, you can also use Ecamm Live as a virtual camera on your Mac, which means that any application which can see a camera can also see the output from Ecamm. And that means we can take all of the production values of Ecamm Live into Zoom. And so you can get a free trial of Ecamm Live at takeonetech.io slash Ecamm. And I highly recommend it. It has transformed in no small way my life, really, because of the stuff that I've done on YouTube just wouldn't have been possible without Ecamm. And the things that it can do in Zoom have really sort of elevated my Zoom presence, if you will. So that is what we are talking about today. Now, before we get into it, I do just want to quickly go through and acknowledge everybody in the chat. Great to see you here, Albert. And what a fantastic trip going to get married in Spain. How lovely that must have been. So, great to see you here. Mr. Duncan, Mr. Moderator. Paul Duncan, the Mr. Moderator. Great to see you too. And Jeff, as always, we've got the U2K contingent in. I see Michael's in as well. Great to see you. And Keeley, no problem if you're out and about. I know Zoom's not really your bag. If you want to learn about an alternative to Zoom, then check out Discord for creators because I am also loving Discord as well. So, lots of great things to say about that. Hey, Sammy. Great to see you too, as ever. And hello, Sonny. Great to see you here as well. I think first time on this live stream. So, great to see you here. And let's have a little look. Okay. So, let's get into it, shall we? And we'll start by just talking about setting up some scenes. Because as I said, when I'm doing consultations with people, the first question is, right, I want to use Ecam and I want to use it with Zoom. So, how do I go about sort of setting things up? What's the process? Because it is obviously more than just a camera. We can start with just a camera. So, if I come over and just start with just a plane scene, and let me just change this to the camera for a second. Obviously, you can just start with that. That's basically what you're going to look like when you first start using Ecam. It would just be a plane camera with nothing else on it. So, what we want to do is look at how to sort of build this out. And hello, Mori. Great to see you here from Portland. Great to see you. So, let's go into demo mode, and I'll start to just sort of build out a few scenes. And I thought, what I'd do is build out basically just a couple of scenes. And that is going to be a main shot, but then also one where we're going to share a presentation. And then we'll look at how we can use that to share someone else's. Because these for me are the most sort of common shots that people want to use with Zoom. And then also, I guess we should do a screen share one, shouldn't we? So, let's start and do that. What I'll do then is I'll just share my screen in demo mode. So, hopefully, let me see. Can you see that? We need to come over here. Just one second a minute. We need to go in here. And none to that one. That will do. A bunch of D. There we go. So, now we are in demo mode. So, now you can see my Ecamm layout. Now, your Ecamm layout may look completely different to this, because the thing about Ecamm is it is all sort of customizable. You've got all these different palettes and utility windows that we can lay out on the screen. And we've just got a blank scene. Forget about all of these other scenes. These are all the scenes that I use for the live stream and for my YouTube video. So, let's just pack those ones away. Let's pack this one away. And so, we'll just assume that we've just got this one scene up here. Now, we've started with a view of the camera. And the default in Ecamm, by the way, is that when you start a new scene, it will default to show in the full camera. I actually prefer to start with a blank canvas, if you like. So, if I come up to the scene menu and here, instead of the source being camera, we can change that to blank like that. And that gives us a blank background. Now, this is the... I'm not going to do a full Ecamm tutorial because that would take much longer than this live stream. I do have a course about that. I'll tell you about that a little bit later. But this is basically the scenes panel. So, this is the different sort of views that we've got, if you like. And then, this over here is the overlays panel where this is all the sort of content that we're going to be adding into it. Now, you can see that there is an image in the background. And that's because, if I just hide a couple of these, like this one. So, if you actually start with a scene source as blank, you will actually have a blank background like this. But you can add a background image. So, this is what I've got. So, this is a good way to sort of brand all of your presentations. Having something that is in the background all the time that is, you know, could have your company logo or something like that, then that's going to be a sort of great way to give a sort of unity across all of your different scenes. And in fact, if you just think about the different scenes that I've got in my presentation. So, there's like one like this. I've got one where I'm doing a screen sharing. I've got one over here. And they've all got this same background image in the background. So, the way to do that is in the in ECAM, when you're adding in overlays, there's basically three places where overlays could be. But let me just pop back on for a moment. There's basically three different places where you can have overlays. And if you look over in the window on the right hand side here, we've got either show in all scenes. So, you can have the overlays going to show in absolutely every scene or show in the current scene. So, this camera overlay that I'm in at the moment is showing in just the current scene. Or you can have it show in the background. And that means it's going to be in the background of every scene as well. So, although this one says show in all scenes, technically, these backgrounds are also in all scenes as well. So, that might be a little bit confusing, but that is how that works. This is also in all scenes. So, you can switch out the backgrounds as well. If you are using ECAM for different things, then you may just want to sort of switch out the background and you've immediately got a different sort of look to your production, your live stream, whatever it is. So, we've got our background. So, let's come back to that new scene. And we want to build out these scenes. So, the first one we're going to do is, well, just the regular camera view. So, that would be simple. We're just going to click down on the camera overlay down here. And then we could put this wherever we want. ECAM Live does give you this sort of framing box. So, you can see, as I move it around, we've got these little alignment tools. So, you can actually line it up if you want to have it not to the edge. I mean, you might prefer for Zoom, to be honest, to just be completely full screen. In which case, that is no problem. It depends what you're actually doing on it. So, you might just want to say, okay, let's actually just make this a complete full screen of the camera as I just had at the beginning there. But we can also line this up with these. Now, what I did was, let me just hide this for a second. What I did was, I created a layout grid. So, I'll just hide this out for a second. And in the background, I've also got this scene layout template. And this basically gives me some guidelines to work with when I'm adding in different elements. So, the way that I use that is, once that is showing, so you can see it showing in the background. When I now add in that camera, then I could line this up with the guidelines that I've got in there. Let me just hide the things from the screen there like that. So, let me just line this up a little bit like that. So, that is our first scene. And we could call that scene one or front scene. And then we're going to create one where we're going to share a screen, let's say. So, I'll just create a new scene. And it has created a new blank scene. Because I have this, because I have the scene layout, sorry, showing, then that is why you can see it there, because it's showing in the background of all scenes. So, what I'll do is, I'll add in the camera again. And this time, what I want to do is actually change the shape of the camera. So, we can click on the little pencil icon here. And then from there, we can change, we could pick a different camera, which is not what I want to do, but we can change the aspect ratio of it. So, the size. So, whether you want it sort of widescreen, classic, square, circle. I always just tend to go for custom, because that then allows me to grab the corner and make it whatever shape I want. So, let's say we wanted to share the screen like this. I'll put that over there. And let's add in a screen share. So, that is this little icon down here, new screen share overlay. So, clicking on that one. Now, by default, it's going to share your entire desktop. You may not want it to share your entire desktop. And in which case, you can click on the little pencil icon. And from here, what we could do is we can choose, instead of primary display, you can actually pick any application. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to pick Safari. And now it is sharing the Safari window. And then we could make this larger, which happens to be just showing the Zoom website. Now, what I'm also going to do is you can crop in to any thing that you're sharing. And that's just slipping off the top of the screen there. But if I hold in the option key and then go to any edge, I can drag it like that. Holding option key at the corner doesn't quite work. Because if I come to the corner and do it like that, sorry, if I just drag it at the corner, it will try and make it bigger in all directions, I should say. And if I just drag on an edge and try and make it bigger, it will drag all dimensions. So what we need to do is hold down the option key and drag it from there instead. So the option is what we use for cropping. So I could crop this in to show just the part of the website that I wanted. And then maybe make that a little bit bigger. So we've got there a scene that has got basically ourself and a screen share in it. And then once we've laid these all out, by the way, of course, we can just turn off the, not that one, we can turn off the layout template. So that has now gone. So if I come out of demo mode for a second, then you'll see that we've got this full scene now. And then we've got our first scene, and we can easily flick back and forth between them. So let's say then that we want to also have a presentation scene where we're going to bring in a presentation. So what we're going to do there is we will come back into demo mode, and I'll create a new one. And in fact, what we could do is we could actually just duplicate this scene. So this one we're going to call screen share. Let's just duplicate it by clicking these, this little icon down here, duplicate current scene. And this one, let's call this one presentation, presentation. And from here, what we're going to do is rather than share the screen because we still want to have our image in it. But then what we want here is, or our camera should say, what we want to do here is just change this to be a presentation. So in order to do that, let's have a little look at what we might need to set up in, in keynote or in PowerPoint. And in fact, let's use PowerPoint because when I show you how to share a guest presentation, we'll be looking at keynote there. So if I just bring up PowerPoint, and I don't normally work in PowerPoint these days, but it's actually a lot easier to do in keynote. So I think it's worth showing you how to do it in PowerPoint, because it's, there's a little few more steps to get to get through in order to be able to share this effectively. So what I'll do is if I come out of here and share with you my PowerPoint, what we want to do is make it so that when we are running a slideshow in PowerPoint, that it is going to show in a window rather than just take over the whole screen. Because obviously normally when you are giving a presentation in PowerPoint keynote, you click on the run presentation, and then it just immediately takes over the whole screen. It wants to make it full screen. And if you've got two screens, it will generally default to having one screen for the slideshow and one screen two for the speaker view. So what we want to do is we want to rather than do that, we want to play in a window. And the way to do that in PowerPoint, if you come over to the ribbon up at the top and where it says slideshow, then you come up to this one here, where it says set up slideshow. And from here, the default is presented by a speaker at full screen. And what we want to do here is change it to this one, which says browse by an individual in a window and then click on OK. And now when I run the slideshow, so if I click on play slideshow, that is actually just a free floating window. So it's rather than taking over the whole screen, it's just just showing that single window. So what that means is if I come back over to my demo mode, and I'll share this with you a second, there we go. And if I come into here to that presentation scene that we were creating, then here what I can do is I can instead of sharing this Safari window, I can come into PowerPoint, Microsoft PowerPoints like that. And you can see that now that is bringing in our PowerPoint presentation. And now what I could do is crop that again, because it's looking a little bit too large. We've got those bars at the top and the bottom. So I'm just going to hold down the option key and crop in a little bit like this. And so now if I come out of demo mode for a second, then you can see that we are now basically seeing that presentation. And if I was to go and click through the slides, then you'll see that that's just been bought in. So it just adds a whole new sort of level to working with slides. I'm not a fan in certainly in Zoom of just people putting up slides and running through a slide deck. And then either you can't see them or they're just in that little tiny, tiny window at the side. I think it's much better if you can be sort of certainly on screen. I actually don't prefer this way either. This way, what you end up with is you've still got, you know, the slides are the dominant thing. I think that some of the ways that we can now work with having slides be more a part or rather us be a part of the slides, I should say. And that's something that I demonstrated in that previous workshop that is linked down in the description as well. And that's using the green screen overlay feature of Ecam, where basically you can just create a slide with the green background and then bring it into Ecam, but turn on the green screen overlay feature. And that means that you don't see any of the green background of the slide. And so anything that you bring in with animations and things like that actually just appears like it is over the top of the screen. And in fact, I'll show you an example of that a little bit later on as well. But creating sort of immersive presentations where you become a part of them, I think is the way to go so that you become an integral part of the content rather than just kind of like over off to one side looking at the content as I'm doing right now. But anyway, still, I think that this is much better than just simple slides on the on the screen. Now what you can also do with Ecam obviously is use all of the other overlays. So far, we've got the camera overlay, which is what I'm in. We've also got the screen share overlay where I'm sharing the presentation. But then also we can add in, you know, graphical overlays and things like that. So if we wanted to have our name pop in, this is just a little image that is flying out from the side. So, you know, obviously, if you're thinking about going into zoom, then you could replace the little zoom name tag at the bottom, which is just really small in the bottom corner, you might want to actually have a full sort of lower third with a title or something like that, or maybe have it fly in and out just as that did. And in fact, that one that I did there was just simply an image. And so if I come back into here, my loop takes stopped working. So that's why I'm taking a little bit longer than normal on this. But that was literally just an image overlay. So this was this one. And then all I've done with that was if you've got any image that is in in Ecam, and by the way, this is when I say it's an image overlay, it's just literally an image. And what we can do with that is you can change the direction that it's going to fly in from so flying from the top bottom left or right. So if we have it flying from the bottom, maybe I could put it down there instead. You'll notice the alignment tool as well. So there it's just sort of lining up with a center. Maybe you want it lined up with the the image. So this will show me this one. There we go. It's lined up with the center of the screen share, for example, you can have it there. But what's what's going to happen then is when I show and hide that overlay. So I'm just going to come into my overlays here and just click on the hide. It pops out. And when I bring it back on again, it pops back up from the bottom. And you can assign these to stream deck. I'll be talking about stream deck a little bit later as well. So that is just a little overview of how to set up some scenes when you are presenting for yourself. But what about if we were going to have a guest and they were going to be doing a presentation. So let's create a scene here for our guest presentation. So the first scene we want to do is in fact, let's just modify this scene shall we. So I'll just click on duplicate. And I'll call this guest presentation. There we go. So that is our this is going to be our guest presentation scene. So the first thing that we want to do possibly is add in our scene layouts because what we're going to do here is we're going to assume that we want the guests to be on with us. So we're both going to be on screen at the same time. Let me just move myself down here. And I'm going to resize myself. And this is why I like to use this scene layout template. I'll have a link, by the way, in the description to this. But if you go to take one tech.io slash zoom, there is a form there to fill out. And I've got a few different resources. And this scene layout template is one of them. I'm actually going to be updating it. So if you register there, then I'll be sending a load of other stuff out with that as well. So not just the scene layout template, but there's a checklist in there. And then some other resources, like a list of all the zoom shortcuts, I'm just actually compiling that right now. So I'll be not right now, but you know what I mean? Presently, so I'll be sending all that out shortly as well. But from here, what we want to do is if we want to add in our guest, so I'm going to just hold down the option key and drag. And now we've got two windows up here. And instead of this one being me, because one of me is more than enough, I'm going to come here and I'm going to change this. Instead of to my camera, I'm going to change this to guest one. And this will just be a placeholder at the moment because obviously there's no guest in here. But this is just going to be the placeholder for where the guest is going to appear when they join for interview mode. And what this means is and people say like, well, why would you want interview mode when you are using it with zoom? Well, the point is, you might want to give a corporate presentation to a group of people, maybe a group of investors or something like that. And so you want to bring on your team to give a presentation. You may have a group community group or something like that. And you got a guest speaker going to come in and give some educational content or something like that. And so you want to have a sort of production quality to what you're presenting to everyone who is on zoom. Or of course, it could just be going straight into zoom webinar as well. So you might be delivering a webinar where you're bringing people in. There's lots of use cases for where you might want to be using interview mode in ecam to bring people in for that sort of higher production value to then feed it into zoom. So and that's the easiest way at the moment to do that. There is zoom ISO, which is another story altogether and something for another stream, but that enables you to basically pull out people from the zoom and incorporate them into the ecam live presentation. But that's going down another rabbit hole. So I won't go there today. So for the time being, we've just got these placeholders for me and a guest. And what we want to do now is rather than this be my presentation, this is going to be a placeholder for the presentation of the guest. So in actual fact, although this is a screen share and it would make sense that we would need to have a screen share there, when I'm bringing the guest presentation in, I'm actually going to be assigning it to another camera feed. So instead of this, this will all make sense, trust me. I'm going to just get rid of this one. And I'm going to add in another camera. And this is again, just going to be a placeholder. And what I want to do is if I just make this a little bit bigger, like this, what I'm going to do here is I'm going to click on the little pencil icon. And then from here, I'm going to change this to be, I'm going to call it guest two. Now, as I say, this will all make sense. There is other ways that you can do this live when you start bringing guests in. But I prefer to just get this all set up in advance so that when the guest joins, then everything just falls into place seamlessly. So that's the idea that we're going to go for here. So what we've done is we've created a scene. If I just take off my little scene layout template, what we've done is we've created a scene where we've got me and a guest, and then also the guest presentation. So let's have a little look at how this would work from the guest side then and what this all actually means. Let me just come back out of here for a second. There we go. So what we need to do is we need to see what the guest is actually seeing. So just quickly, Eileen, no, I'll make sure that it goes out to everybody. So I'll send the, yeah, there's going to be a few things basically. It's the scene layout template. Then also there's a checklist as well. So I'll send that. And then also a list of all the shortcuts for Zoom as well. Because learning the keyboard shortcuts is a way to find your way around all of that stuff. So if it's not all in there immediately, I'll send them all out a little bit later today. If that makes sense. So let's have a little look at what this all looks like on the guest side, shall we? So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go over to, here we have got my lovely imaginary friend Isabella, who is on her computer. Now what she's got open there is the Chrome window to join my interview link. So in Ecam Live, you have your interview link where people can, and in fact, there you go, you can see mine there. That is how people can join your live stream or your Ecam. And by the way, some people think that you need to be actually live or recording for people to join on interview mode. You don't at all. You can just, people can call in at any time. And as we'll see in a moment, it would just sort of ring on my computer to say that, if I've got Ecam open, that is, to say that somebody is trying to join. So this is what they're going to be seeing on their computer. Now, should you use Safari or Chrome? A lot of people ask that question. Chrome is the one that is going to give the best results in this case, which you might think is unusual for an Apple product on an Apple device. But there's certainly some things in terms of sharing the screen and sharing the, or using virtual cameras in Chrome that just work better. So it's advisable to use Chrome, Firefox, or indeed any of the other browsers, because they're all based on Chrome. Safari can sometimes be an issue. However, it does work on Safari as well. But just to know that that is why people are always advising to use it on Chrome. So when the guest comes over to my interview link, then what they're going to see is this. They're going to see a page where they can select their camera. Now here, I'm just using, I'm actually doing a bit of a hack here, because I'm just using the Ecam virtual camera on this camera, just with this picture in it. So it's just to simulate the fact that this is somebody on the other end. But here, you could basically just choose whichever camera you wanted. The microphone, they get to choose their microphone, and then they can add in their name. And this name is just what's going to be shown on your screen when they're calling in. It's not actually come into your presentation or into your Ecam Live production or anything like that. It's just a little placeholder so that you know who it is, who is actually calling in. Now, one thing we want to be able to do here is we're going to want to share the screen of the guest. So you need to make sure that the guest has also enabled Chrome to share the screen in the preferences. So if I come into my preferences on here, system preferences, so in the security and privacy, so this is all on the guest computer now we're looking at, security and privacy, then there'll be one here which is called screen recording. And so if they are going to be sharing a presentation, you'll just need to make sure in advance that this is enabled and we should see Chrome in here somewhere. He says, I'm not seeing it now. Let me have a little look. Well, maybe it won't work then. Let's have a little look. Usually there'll be a pop-up and I thought I'd check this one off. Let's find out shall we? We'll see if this works because usually there's a pop-up. So obviously when you're going to have somebody on for an event and they're going to be doing a presentation, then run a test, but it should prop up something to tell them to grant permission. So we'll see if that happens. I'm a bit confused now, but I'll move swiftly on. So when they want to join, they're going to click on the join here. And in fact, let's just take a little step back because they've also got a presentation that they're going to share, haven't they? So let's just make sure that we've given them the instructions and they are prepared for that. So I'm going to open up this little demo presentation. And this is in Keynote. And just as we did in PowerPoint on my computer, on this computer, we need to make sure that this is going to play in a window as well. Otherwise it's just going to take over their monitor. Now it could be that they've got two monitors, in which case they might be quite happy for it to display on one particular monitor, but I'm just going to assume not. Now there is a play button up here for Keynote, but we can also right-click and click on customize toolbar. And in there you'll see that as well as the play button, there is also a button for play in window. And so you can just drag that and drop it into the toolbar. The other place that you can get that as well is if you click play, then you can choose the option here. So either play in window or play full screen. So if we just play in window like that, then it will also just play it in the window. So what I'll do is if I just click play slideshow now, you'll see that that is now playing this presentation in a window just as we had on our computer with PowerPoint. So both PowerPoint and Keynote can play in a window. Okay, so that will come in useful in a moment. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to click on join. This is saying connecting. I'll just mute the microphone. And if you heard that little noise there, that is to say that somebody is trying to join the call. So what I'll do is I'll come over into my demo mode for a second and you'll see what that looks like. So here the interview mode window in e-cam has popped up and it's telling me that Isabella is joining. So that is where whatever name the guest puts in will appear there. So I'm going to click on answer. And the person now is in the green room. So they're still not on the screen. They're just in the green room. And in fact, let me change my scene here to the one we changed with the guest presentation. So there we go. This is our scene here that we've created for this purpose. Isabella is in the waiting room, not in the actual scene itself though. So what we would need to do here is there are these buttons that you can either just add them straight in as a full screen person where the scene source is the person themselves or there's this add left or right. Now I never use these ones and the reason is because these are if you remember at the beginning where I said I always have the scene sources blank and then I build out the scene with overlays and things like that. These buttons are all related to if you didn't have that and you had the scene sources camera and that would mean that you could just basically spotlight the person or you could add them to the left hand side or the right hand side of the screen. And it really comes from I suppose the sort of earlier days of Ecamm when that is how it worked. Whereas now that we can add in camera overlays, screen share overlays and all those sorts of things, it's much easier to actually build out the scenes as I've done. And then here instead of either of these three, we're going to add them in by clicking the a little assign button here. And so if you remember we've created guest one here, we've got the little one symbol. And so if I just assign to guest one, now they appear in the scene just like that. Now one thing to note is we are able to control the image quality or the image I should say of all of the guests as well. So here we've got our camera effects window in Ecamm. And this is where we can change the you know all the settings of our own camera. So I could zoom in my camera for example here, could zoom in and out, I could change the brightness and all these sorts of settings, mirror and everything else that we can do in there. Well you can actually do all of that as well to the guests. So that means that even if the guest hasn't got the sort of best settings or whatever, there are some things that you can do to tweak it. And all you need to do there is just make sure you come up to the top in the camera effects window and then just click on the person. And now we're seeing their camera and I could still zoom. It's a static image at the moment, you just have to use your imagination, imagine that that is a moving image. But we can change the brightness, we could change the color temperature and things like that. So you might want to just go in and sort of tweak those. And this is the sort of thing that you would do on your test run. So having you know if possible get the guest in in advance to have the time to do this setup. The other thing to try and do is make sure you're sort of in proportion. If I just quickly create another scene here, let's say we would just want one side by side before our presentation. I'll just call this me and guest, whoops Daisy, now I don't want to delete that. So let's go to that scene. And what I'm going to do is just take this one off and let's say that we want to move these around, put the guest over here like this and then me over here like this. We obviously would be easier if we had a scene layout template on. So I'm going to just turn that one on because then we can get these all nicely lined up so that we've got the same space on the screen like that. So there we've got two side by side. So what you would want to do is just try and make sure that you are sort of similar proportions. So the way that my shot was originally like this is maybe a little bit, if it was like that, maybe a little bit too big, a little bit too small. So just try and make sure that you are proportioned. The other thing that you might often find not so much in this position, but you'll often find people with their camera position so that they're sort of down at the bottom of the screen or something like that because they've not really got the ideally you want your eyes at the top third level. So if you imagine the screen split into thirds, then try and get your eyes there. Some people seem to get themselves lined up with the center for some reason and it just looked weird. So you do have that control over the guest's camera that you could sort of align that up. So if they were sort of off-center or something like that, then you could just use that to sort of crop in and get them in the right position there. So let me just go back to this guest presentation one though because what we want to do now is we want to bring in their presentation. So if we have a look at the interview window, again, these are the windows we want to concern ourselves with, we've got the camera effects one, we don't need to concern ourselves with that one too much now, but we've also got the interview window and you can see that it's showing me and then also the guest. So let's go back and have a look at the guest side and see how they're going to share their screen. So outside of demo mode, if I come back over to this one for a second. So let me have a little look. I am sharing the wrong thing one second. It's because she's seeing my screen. What I need to do is I just need to take off. What you're seeing there, in fact, let me just come and explain what I'm doing here. This wouldn't normally happen. It's just because I'm doing this demo. When you are in interview mode, you can choose what the guest is going to see. If I bring up my settings, where's my ECAM settings? Over here. Interview. So the guest has a choice. You have a choice of what the guest is going to see. Either they can see the entire broadcast, which means that they're going to see everything that's going out from ECAM, the whole production, which generally, I think, is what you want. You want them to be able to see what's going on, don't you? You want them to be able to see, when they're on shot or when they're not. Or if you're showing something on screen that isn't related to them, that they're not sharing themself, then they'd want to see that. So in ECAM preferences, in interview mode, then guest view, you can choose to be broadcast. Or if you just want them to only see you, maybe you might not want them to be distracted by everything else that's going on. And so they're literally just talking to you if they might get distracted by seeing themself or something like that. Then you could change that to host camera. So I tend to always have that as broadcast. But in this case, I'm going to change it to host camera because what was happening there was when I was sharing the screen from the guest with you to show you the process, then it was having that sort of like affinity effect, infinity. There we go. So now this is what she's seen on her screen. And you can see that whereas before she was seeing the entire broadcast, now it's just showing her basically my camera feed. So she can see exactly just my camera that you're seeing up here as well. So now they are going to want to share their screen. And let me have a look, share screen. Now you see, this is indeed not allowing me to share the screen now. Let me just come in here second. And in fact, I'll have to come back up here because what I need to do is quickly come into my system preferences on that computer. Copy this link. Sorry about this. I need to allow screen sharing. I was right in the system preferences. So it is not doing that. So just well, I do that in system preferences over on this screen. Here we go. So if I come into here, go to security and privacy. And then I'll go into here, I'll just type in my handy 50-digit passcode. And then I'll go into screen sharing, screen recording, I should say. And then click on add. I'm going to click on Chrome or type Chrome I should say and add it in like that. Quit and reopen. There we go. So now we've got Chrome in there. Now we're opening up Chrome. Come into here, Google Chrome. I don't want to search for Google Chrome in Safari. Here we go. Whoops, Daisy. Do beg your pardon about this. I should have known when I noticed it wasn't in there at the beginning. I thought I'd already done a demo of this on this computer, but clearly not. Never mind. This is the process to go through. So now we can just join again. Second time lucky. So what I need to do there, hello, got my other, that's the built-in webcam. So I'll change that to the virtual cam. I'll change this one to this one. And then I'll click on join. And now joining from here over to this screen. And then get this one out of the way like that. So we're kind of back to where we were. Now, unfortunately, what I'm seeing is what I'm not seeing here. Unfortunately, in my Chrome is the screen sharing. That's a shame. I might need to do a quick reboot. Let me just try this again. I'm going to try with another browser just quickly. Otherwise I'll have to just move on. It's always when you're live that these things happen, isn't it? Let's just have another quick try at this. And if not, if not, then I'll move swiftly on. Yeah, the thing with the Safari. So I'm just trying it in Safari now. The thing with Safari is that you can't use the sort of built-in, the virtual cameras. So I'll just try this one. I think I'm just going to have to abandon this particular part of the demo until I figure out exactly why my Chrome is not allowing me to share my screen in this instance. I do have a full demo of how to do this in another video, but I'm just not quite sure as to why this is not working for me this particular time. Never mind. Never mind. I shall move swiftly on. So that's thrown me a little bit, but never mind. That in essence, though, is how you would bring in a guest and then add their presentation in. But I've got to now find out exactly why it's not working for me this time. I can bet it's human error. I can bet there's something silly that I've just not toggled on to this. Have I got something? I've got to think if I've got something that's blocking it or something. Never mind. I will move on. And I'll just assume that we've set up our scenes. And by the way, if you do want to learn all about Ecamm Live, then there is also my masterclass, which does cover absolutely everything. And I can tell you, I've got a very good demo of this in there. I'm just wondering now why it's not working for me. But the Ecamm Live masterclass is everything you need to know about Ecamm Live without the errors. And this is at ecammlivemasterclass.com, takes you through from beginner through to advanced on Ecamm and covers not just Ecamm, but also how to use Ecamm with Zoom, with Teams and with Discord, and then how to bring in presentations and things like that. And I've demonstrated this that I've just been talking to you about so many times before, and it's letting me down today, but I can assure you it's perfectly correct in the Ecamm Live masterclass. So you can head over to ecammlivemasterclass.com to sign up to that. It's $147, but it is lifetime access. So the idea is that it is just your online Ecamm encyclopedia. You'll go to resource for everything related to Ecamm Live. And it is continually updated. One of the things about my YouTube channel is I'm constantly making videos about Ecamm and various other things, Stream Deck. But you know what? The developers, Ken and Glenn of Ecamm, they move at such a rate that often the stuff that's on my channel is out of date. It's not out of date enough to remove it completely. There's still lots of useful information there, but some of the information is now, you know, not technically the way that you do things. So the idea of the masterclass then is that it's just continually updated. And you can always know that if you want to know how to do something, the latest best way to do it will always be in there. So you can find that at that link. So with that said, let's move swiftly on as I try and just pull myself together after my slight failure there with that setting up that demo. And what I'm going to show you is how to then take this all into Zoom. So we're going to assume that we've got our different scenes there. We've got the, oops, Daisy, where is it? So we've got this one, we've got our main scene. We've got one where we're sharing our screen. We've got one where we're sharing our presentation. We've also got one with me and a guest. We would have one with our guest presentation if I could figure out just what I had done at this precise moment. But let's just assume that we want to take all of this into Zoom. So how would we go about doing that? Well, Zoom has, sorry, Ecamm has a feature called the Ecamm Virtual Mic and the Ecamm Virtual Cam. And that basically just means that whatever is happening in Ecamm will be showing up on your system as if it was just a camera and a microphone. And the way that we activate that is just simply, and by the way, this is a pro feature. So there is two levels of Ecamm. There is the regular and pro. And with pro, you get the virtual mic and the interview mode and stuff like that. So what I've been talking about today is a sort of pro feature. But for me, it's, yeah, it's certainly worth the upgrade cost for that. So if I come into my demo mode and I'm going to go to the output, then here you'll see we've got virtual cam and virtual mic. You just want to make sure that those are both switched on. And if it's the first time using it, it will just have a thing there to say install it. So you just need to do that. You'll need to grant some permissions put in your password to let it have access to your system. And then you are good to go. So that is the virtual mic and virtual cam on. And now basically, those just show up in your system as a microphone and a camera. So let's just have a look over in zoom, shall we? If I come over into my zoom, and I'm going to bring up my zoom settings, and then I'll share my screen. So here we are in zoom, and we've got zoom settings. So in video, what you'll see is down here where we can pick the camera, we can just come down here and we've got ecam virtual cam. And that is the virtual camera. And now whatever's going into whatever's coming out of ecam will be showing up in there. So that's where you can see the output there. So if I change to a different camera, so say this one, then it will pick up that camera. Hello. That's not looking as good as this one. And by the way, I'll be doing a studio tour after I'll talk about that in a moment. But yeah, here you can just select any of your cameras. But if I choose the ecam live virtual cam, then basically all of that production from ecam is just being fed straight into zoom. Now there are a couple of settings that you might want to be aware of here. So first of all, these down here, so original aspect ratio or HD, that will just make it to be 1920 by 1080. But you can just do that in ecam in any case. So it will either be original or HD there. So you can just leave that as it is. Mirror video. Some people have their video mirrored in zoom because if they're not used to looking at themself on camera, then there's this thing of, you know, you're raising this hand, but it you're expecting the other side if you're pointing on screen. We're used to looking at ourselves reflected back at us in mirrors. And so that is a reflection, as opposed to when we're looking into a camera and we're seeing the, you know, the image coming back at us, it just seems a little bit odd. So that's why I think some people like to just mirror themselves. However, in if we're using the ecam virtual cam, we don't want to click the mirror because then it'll actually just reverse all of the stuff we're bringing into ecam as well. So we want to actually just make sure that one isn't toggled on. You've also got this touch up my appearance. To be honest, this slider doesn't go long enough to be any help for me. But I know that some people do use it. And so that's just going to smooth out those fine lines and wrinkles. However, if you are bringing in the ecam virtual cam with presentations and things like that, you definitely don't want anything like this, any effects on it that are going to, you know, potentially be trying to be smoothing out text or things like that, because we're basically bypassing all of zoom's screen sharing and things like that. So we don't want to have that touch up my appearance on same with adjust for low light. I'm going to assume that if you're using ecam, then you've got your lighting sorted out and that's not an issue. So this one as well, we won't want to do that because that will adjust the overall picture because although we are, you know, now sharing our screen in zoom, we're bringing presentations and things like that zoom still for all intents and purposes thinks it's just a camera. So all of the built in processing to adjust for light and things like that is going to apply it to everything. It's not just going to pick out, you know, your face on the screen. So make sure we don't have any of those selected. Now the other thing about video in zoom is that it actually treats camera feeds a lot lower than it does screen sharing natively in zoom because it assumes that if you're sharing your screen in zoom, then, you know, you might have some fine type or something like that on the screen, you know, text that you're going to want to, you know, it needs to be clear on the other side. So when you go into zoom and you click on share screen in zoom itself, it actually bumps the resolution up of the feed that's going out from zoom to, you know, all of the other participants so that to make sure that they can actually see what's on the screen. But when you aren't sharing screen when you're just using your camera, zoom actually has got really quite a low resolution. In fact, it can be as low as, you know, like far less than HD. So 720 and less. And in fact, it's rarely 720. You need to actually specifically request them to upgrade your account. So if you are on a paid zoom account, you need to send contact support and send an email requesting that your account be upgraded and they will just do it. And in fact, I've left the link to the place where you would go to submit that request is down in the description of this video, as well as the text that you'd need to accompany that with. But basically, it's a bit sneaky really that, you know, they've got the potential to give you this really much better resolution 720 and actually 720 is 720p is fine for, you know, zoom calls and even screen sharing as well. It's just that they don't natively, they don't automatically enable it. And so you might be getting something far less than that unless you ask for it. So definitely go ahead and do that. And that will just improve the quality that you're getting and you're presenting out to everyone else as well. So those are a couple of steps in terms of the video. What you can also do then is come over into audio and you may or may not want to use the Ecam Live virtual mic. When would you want to use the virtual mic is if you have got maybe audio that is in your Ecam Live production. So if you have got, you know, I'm sure you're not going to do, you know, big intro music and things like that for your zoom calls, although you might do for webinars, but you might have sound effects or background music or something like that. Maybe you're doing a co-working session on zoom and you've got background music that's playing through Ecam, whatever the case. If you want all of the audio to come from Ecam into zoom as well, then you would use the Ecam Live virtual mic. And then it would just be a case of in the audio settings where you've got the microphone just come over here and select Ecam Live virtual mic. So here you can see that I've got my, the same mic that I'm using for Ecam at the moment is working here. But if I was to play a sound effect, he says wondering if I've actually got any sound effects queued up. What you'll notice is, let me have a little look. Let me just start playing some background music, shall I? And what you'll notice is, although you can hear, you'll be able to hear it, you'll notice that the little bars here are not jumping up and down. So that means that zoom isn't hearing it. So you can hear the music, but zoom isn't hearing it. So now what I'll do is I'll come over to zoom and I'll change this to Ecam Live virtual mic. And now you can see that the music is registering with zoom. So that is the reason why you would use the Ecam Live virtual mic in zoom is if you was want to take your microphone, but also any other sound effects and things like that into zoom as well. Now when you are using the virtual mic, or if you've just using a good quality mic, I'm assuming because you are here and you are looking to level up your zoom game that you will be looking to improve your audio. And so once again, really zooms trying to put the training wheels on and make sure that everything is as good as it can possibly be for us. But to do that, they're just making a load of assumptions. So what you want to do is the default for this are just automatically adjust microphone volume. Zoom's going to have that on by default because it's going to want to make sure that there's, you know, no sudden loud noises or it's going to maybe raise it if it's too low or something like that. So we want to just make sure that this is turned off because we are going to be in control of our zoom volume. And so we don't need it to control it for us. So just make sure that one is toggled off. There's also this suppressed background noise. And that is as auto by default, but there's also low, medium or high. We're not actually going to use this, but just to explain what that's about, that is to basically remove any background noise that's going on whilst you are on zoom calls. And the level of suppression is going to actually have a direct impact on the quality of your audio. So if you've got a low level of background noise and low level of background noise suppression, then it's not going to be working as hard to remove all of that noise. But just know that anything it is doing to suppress background noise will be distorting your actual voice and your actual audio. It's all processing, it's all going to have an adverse effect in some way, maybe not massive, but in some way on your actual audio. So we don't need to use this one though, because there is this option down here which is off by default. And so let's have a little look. Somebody's Rob's just saying you can also get the zoom upgrade via chat with tech support. That's a great, great point there as well. Yeah, I've left a link to the the support page to email, but that's that's great. So just jump on the chat with them as well as the other option. So with this audio settings here, we've got this music and professional audio. And it says show in meeting option to enable original sound. Now when you click that on, I've got a meeting running behind just here. You'll notice that when I toggle that one on and off, there's this little box that appears just up at the top. And then in the meeting, I'll explain exactly what this is. But in the meeting, you can then you see it says original sound off. And then you can just click on here original sound on so you can toggle it on and off from in the meeting. So what that does is first of all, it disables the background noise suppression. And it's for by the way, music and professional audio they call it. So it's for musicians and people with professional audio setups. And what that means is you've, you know, you're not just using your built-in mic. So if you've got a reasonable microphone, you've got some sort of audio processing, maybe you might have, you know, I've actually got some background noise suppression going on that's done separately by the the computer to get rid of the the air con noise and things like that. But it means that you're sort of in control of that on your side. So when you enable that, then basically it's going to remove any background noise suppression. So it's just taking the feed, it's a bit like the camera, it's just assuming that you're you're giving a good quality sync signal. You've got this option here that you can toggle high fidelity music mode, that is going to basically give the highest quality. Now it says for highest quality music, but it also equally applies to audio. It's just basically going to give you the highest possible audio quality that you can get within the limitations of transmitting the stuff over the network and within the limitations of what zoom can provide. But just note it does say there it can increase CPU utilization and consume greater network bandwidth. And for best results use Ethernet connection. That is just a given that goes for everything to be honest, you know, always try to go wired. But yeah, just know that it will use potentially a little bit more CPU. I don't think in this day and age it's going to cripple anybody's computer. But just do note that that is going to be something echo cancellation, you can still toggle that one on and off. I'd recommend having that one off because I'm going to assume that you are using some sort of headphones and the microphone as well. But if you are somebody who plays, you know, your place has your zoom audio coming over speakers, then you can still toggle the echo cancellation on with that. But I'd, as I say, always recommend using headphones and stereo audio. So generally, I'm speaking into a microphone, it's just mono, I don't need to worry about that. But if you did have, you know, stereo audio certainly for musicians, then you can turn that one on there as well. But for me, for just voice on the sort of things that I do, I just leave that one on echo cancellation off and stereo audio mode stereo as well would increase the bandwidth requirement as well, because there's effectively double the channels in team fact. So that is that now I think in terms of just the general setup. These are all things related to audio, but they're not actually to improve your quality things like mute my mic when joining a meeting, press and hold space bar to temporarily unmute. That's a really useful feature, by the way, that a lot of people don't know, but it's just if you are muted, just hold down the space, and then you can talk like I kind of pushed a talk button. And then in the advanced sections section, then there is the adjustments for echo cancellation. But since I'm not using that, you can change from auto to aggressive. So again, I advise against anything that is doing any sort of audio processing. But essentially now, we've got higher quality image and higher quality audio going into zoom. Just one thing to note is that original sound, you may find that it is off, you know, if you log out of zoom and open up zoom again, you do just need to make sure to as part of your sort of checklist when you're starting the meeting, making sure that your original sound is switched on. And you can toggle it off there as well. And you can, of course, adjust, you know, microphones and video settings just from down here as well. And so that is the website. That is the the sort of settings in zoom. And I'll talk a little bit about the the loopback, because certainly if you're in ecam, and you might have heard people talking about loopback, when do you need to use loopback for ecam and zoom? It's one of these things. And what is loopback, first of all, I should say, loopback is an application for the Mac, which allows you to do sort of audio routing and create virtual devices to send audio from one place to another. And it was only in the last version of ecam that we actually got the virtual mic. So the virtual camera has been a while around for a while, but the virtual microphone was in the last update to ecam, so that basically you can take all of the audio from ecam into zoom. But before then, if you did want to take the audio from ecam into zoom, you'd have to use this application called loopback. And that allows you to take the feed of everything from from there going into ecam, going into zoom. So why do you still use that now? There is still a reason why you might need to use it, because as I say, we've got the virtual mic to send stuff into zoom. The time when you would want to use loopback still, and I'll show you how to use that and set that up in a moment, is if you are doing something where you've got maybe bringing in interview guests, and you want to send them into the zoom, if it's only one way, that's no problem, you just use the virtual mic. But if you want to have them, the guest, be able to hear what's coming out from the zoom call or have the people from the zoom call be able to speak and it be heard in the zoom in the ecam. Say, for example, you might be, you might have people on zoom, that you're feeding ecam into zoom, but you might also be live streaming to a YouTube channel as well. So the zoom becomes part of the live stream, or you may be just recording in ecam, and you want to be able to take questions from zoom. In that case, we've got the audio going from one way from ecam into zoom, but we don't have it coming back the other way. So let me just show you quickly what loopback is and sort of how it works as well. So this is a loopback. And these down this side are all basically virtual devices, virtual audio devices on the computer. And you can create a new audio device just by clicking on this one. So we want to create an audio device that's going to come from zoom into ecam. So in the same way that we've got our ecam virtual mic, which is the audio from the ecam, we want to create a sort of zoom virtual mic, which when we look in any other application is just going to show up with the audio from zoom. So I've just created a new device here, and I'm going to come in here and just call this zoom virtual mic. I'm going to call it demo because I've already created one. There we go, like that. And now that we've set up that device, let's just move that out of the way so that we don't get confused by all the stuff on the other side of the screen. Because now we're working on this one device. All we need to look at is basically these three columns, we've got the sources. So that is basically all the different audio sources that we're going to sort of merge together if you like. And then we've also got the output channels, that's where we're going to send it to. And then we've got this thing called monitors, which we actually frankly don't need to worry about for the purposes of this. That's if we were going to send it somewhere else to monitor the signal. When you set up a new virtual device in loopback, it automatically adds this pass through. That's just basically any audio is going to go into it. We don't want that. We're going to just come here, click on that one, click on delete. Just move this up so you can see. Because we just want to start with a completely blank canvas as it were. So zoom virtual mic is going to end up just going to this output. And that's what's going to then show that this is the audio that we're going to get when we select the zoom virtual mic in e-cam, for example, we're just going to get the audio from this output. So now we have to decide what actually do we want to go into this virtual device. Well, obviously the first thing we want to go into it. Didn't mean to press that. The first thing we want to do go into it is the zoom itself. So what we do there is we click on the... Sorry, Siri. So what we're going to do here is we're going to click on the the plus. And I'm going to come down here to zoom there and it's selecting the application zoom. So now we've got the application of zoom is going to be feeding. So any audio that's coming out from zoom is going to be going into this virtual device. We've got some options here. This one mute when capturing. What that means is if something was using this audio device, if it was switched on, do we want to mute zoom for everything else? Well, actually, we don't want that, do we? Because we want to still be able to hear what's going on in zoom and we want it to still be used everywhere else. So I'll just toggle this one off for now. And so that means that we're still going to be able to hear zoom on the computer and everything like that. But it's just going to still be feeding into this virtual device. The other thing though that we want is we also want to include our microphone because the audio that's coming out of zoom doesn't include our own microphone. It only is the audio coming out. So adding to this, what we'd do is we would come down here to a audio device and then let's just say the short MV7 microphone is the microphone that I'm using. And then in the options here, we can adjust the volume. But that's actually all there is to it. This is now created a virtual device that combines zoom and my microphone. So now all I would do is I would go over into Ecamm and I would select that as being my audio source. And then that means that it's still picking up my microphone, but it's also getting all of the information coming back from zoom as well. And so that is how you would get that going into into Ecamm Live. And so that's, as I say, there is still a use case for Loopback. If you are creating stuff where you do need that sort of two way communication, I'm just noticing a few questions. So let me just quickly flick through some of those. You're going to be using Ecamm Live. I want to give my zoom courses using Ecamm for Cam Sources. Should I use a Mac Mini or a Mac Studio? I'm afraid of the noise will Mac Mini or Mac Studio be silent? I'm using a Mac Mini. You know, it's one of those things of sometimes the more power you've got is is better. But certainly on the M1 Series Macs, I mean, most of them are pretty, pretty capable. So I'm using literally the base model Mac Mini. And I don't have any any issues with it. So don't don't get me wrong. The Mac Studio is still on my upgrade list. I do suffer from gas gear acquisition syndrome, and certainly with the new M2s coming out as well. But just know that. Yeah, I don't have any fan noise or anything like that for the Mac. I've got a laptop as well, which is an older Intel laptop that used to, you know, the fans used to really crank up whenever there was, you know, whenever I was using Ecamm. So those certainly were noisy. But if you're talking about the new M Series Macs, then yeah, definitely, they're all pretty capable. You know, go with that, go with what you can afford to do and budget to do. So if you can, if you can go to a Mac Studio, more RAM, things like that, then that is certainly going to going to help. But I don't have any issues with noise if that's your concern. So yeah, in order to use Ecamm with Zoom, you need the Pro subscription. Yeah, so the virtual camera feature is a Pro feature, as is the interview mode. And there's one other key thing. But yeah, it is right. It would be the 32 versus the 16. I'm a bit behind. But it's virtual. No, so the virtual Cam is not. In fact, let's just have a little look and just be clear, because there are a few other distinctions there between the two. So what I'll do is I'll just bring up the thing, because there's one other thing that I'm forgetting that is different with the Pro and the standard. Let's have a little look. Yeah, so this is the differences. So the Pro and the standard and Pro. So you get Ecamm live interview. So that is just a Pro feature, the virtual mic and Cam, and then also streaming in 4k as well. So the ability to stream in 4k is specific to that. And then also widget overlays. So those are things like when you get new subscribers or things like that, if you're using it for YouTube, you might want those not so much of a thing for Zoom. Although actually, having said that, there is a great way that you can bring in Zoom comments and things like that using some widgets. So that might be applicable. But yeah, anyway, the key thing though is really the interview mode and mic and webcam. And so it is at that level. Well, I've got to say, Jill, the OBS thing, I actually went down, I found Ecamm after going down the OBS route. And it's one of those things, it's kind of like a what's the value of time because it's just and what are you going to use it for? What's the value that you're going to get out of it? Because, you know, a year of Ecamm is basically works out at just around about a dollar a day or something like that. And so it's a case of, you know, how much value can you get out of it? And so I see the amount of value can get out is more than that. But you can certainly do everything that you can do in Ecamm. You can do it in OBS. So that is a fact. It's just the kind of the, the pain to go through getting it. I've probably been a bit harsh there, but I didn't like OBS at all. I used it for a while. And in fact, the reason why I started using Ecamm specifically was I did go down the OBS route, but it couldn't handle on my older laptop, some of the stuff that I was doing. And so I found that the frame rate for my recorded content on OBS on my really old computer didn't, didn't stack up. Whereas Ecamm just seemed to handle it even on my old computer before I upgraded my computer. So yeah. So, but yeah, it is obviously it's another, everything subscription these days, isn't it? And it's always these, you know, little subscriptions here and there, but then they, they all add up, don't they? And before you know it, you've got to subscriptions all the way down your step-bank statements every month. So, oh yeah, thanks, Pierre. You were, I think you were ahead of me there. This is the thing, when I scroll down the comments, I don't see that people have already asked for, answered everything. Oh look, Paul's already got it up as well. There are, there are more, obviously more great features coming in at Ecamm as well. But speaking of the different plans as well, I just want to be conscious of the, the fact that I am actually going to be doing a studio tour. So it's basically everything that I've got set up for doing what I'm doing here. But then also it's exactly what I use for my, for my zoom setup, because my, my live stream and video studio is effectively just, this is my office, this is what I do, my zoom calls as well. I don't tend to have a purple background in those for some reason, but there you go. And so I'm going to do a full tour of that. Now that is actually over on Amazon Live. So it's my first live stream on Amazon Live today as well. So that will be kind of like top of the hour after this, we're sort of 20 plus now. So at the top of the hour, that will be over on Amazon Live. I've left a link to that in the description. But you can also just go to takeonetech.live and that'll take you to my Amazon page. So there I'll just be going through everything and like everything that I've got set up in here. So this is kind of my setup at the moment. So with my monitor and various different devices and things like that. So I'll be going over in and talking about that in, in Amazon Live. Now I mentioned before about different ways to, to bring in presentations and talked about immersive presentations. So what I mean by that is where you have sort of graphics that come into the screen and you can become more a part of the screen. And so a good way to talk about that because we've only sort of scraped the surface of what's possible with Zoom and Ecamm obviously. I've told you about my Ecamm Live masterclass. Well I've also got a Zoom master class. And so this is an example here of just bringing a presentation in. So this is just a keynote but it's got a little green box in the middle of it. And so we're keying out the green screen in keynote and now you're seeing the slides from keynote and I'm just basically within that presentation. So all of this is to say that my Ecamm Live masterclass and my Zoom masterclass I should say is also available and that's basically what Ecamm does for Ecamm. You know my Ecamm masterclass does for Ecamm teaching you everything from beginner through to advanced of how to use that application and indeed how to take it into Zoom. The Zoom masterclass is about all of the components of Zoom. So you know how to run effective meetings, how to set up meetings, how to run workshops, things like that, how to you know use breakout rooms, all of the features of Zoom because often it is the point that is the point of failure is the sort of tech and knowing your way around it, knowing what's possible, knowing how to set it all up. And so you can go to Zoom masterclass.com for that or you can also go to just take one tech.io slash Zoom and you'll find it on there with all the other resources as well. But this is again, it's lifetime access. I'll be updating it as new features come out with Zoom because they are not quite as proactive as the Ecamm folks but they do still roll out lots of new features. So it's available for $497 but with that I've got a few bonuses for you. So included in that is two months free of Ecamm as well. If you are a new Ecamm user then as well as the 14-day trial if you sign up using my code and then you'll have a code when you join the course then you basically get your first two months of Ecamm free and you can cancel it anytime within that two months. So Jill if it's something that you are considering then you could get a sort of extra trial of it and get everything set up within that two months because I think that a 14-day free trial is great. But certainly with something like Ecamm and we don't always have you know it's not like we've got 14 days where we can just work on things every day to get them all set up. It might be just a few hours a day and by the time your 14 days have gone you might not have had time to really try it out. So that's why I reached out to Ecamm and said look for people who come on the Zoom masterclass because I believe that Ecamm is such a sort of integral part of the whole you know how to achieve great results on Zoom. Can I offer them an extra sort of two-month incentive to try and you know try it out and really put it through its paces? So that is what I've negotiated for you. So there's two free months of Ecamm. Then in addition to that there's also 25% of Speedify. I haven't talked about Speedify today but Speedify is an application for the Mac and PC and iPhones as well which basically combine all of your network connections together and when I say all of your network connections what does that mean? Well you may have a router, a router, I'm plugged into mine by Ethernet cable but then I'm also connected to the same router by Wi-Fi and that actually can combine those two connections because you do get the benefit of you know the speed coming into your house may not be you know maybe watered down by the Wi-Fi for example. So you can combine those but then also any other connections so if you've got multiple different connections in your house you can combine those together and like now I'm also tethered to my mobile over 4G so I'm getting that signal there as well and Speedify combines all those together and what it means is first of all you get a higher bandwidth so you don't get any issues with bandwidth the same way that you might do just using a single connection on your Zoom calls but then also if one of them drops out then you've got a failsafe. So if my main internet went down for example I would still have that second or third connection to fall fall over to so it is a really great tool for Zoom because it's always I don't know about you it's always for me seems to be at the most crucial time where I'm just about to deliver that most important piece of information in the past where my internet connection would have dropped the connection goes and then you come back thinking like you've just said the best statement in the world ever and everyone said oh could you repeat that you just dropped out for a minute so having a stable connection is important and so that is why we've got the 25% off on Speedify as well. Now I've also included three of my icon packs so I talked about in the previous stream and I'll just touch on it next about the icon packs for ECAM for Zoom and also one for keynote for making keynote presentations but the one for Zoom specifically that's going to allow you to have the full control over Zoom and there are some built-in controls on stream deck for Zoom but actually to go through and add in all of the possible shortcuts I'll be sending out a list by the way if you've gone to take one take the IO slash zoom to register for the that free download I'll send out all the zoom shortcuts but from there you can basically have total control over your Zoom presentation so being able to you know spotlight people bring people up and things like that or mute people whatever you need to do you can control it all from stream deck so that's why I've included my stream deck icon packs these are all available on my store by the way they're all ten dollars for each of my icon packs so I've included those in here as well but I've also negotiated 10% off camo as well now camo allows you to use your mobile phone as a camera because one of the things that we need to do in Zoom is level up our appearance and so getting away from the built-in cameras on the Mac or the PC is going to be a good move not least because the quality of them is not always the best but also the position of them is not always the best if you've got a laptop on the desk then you get that sort of like up the camera up the nose shot from the camera that is so popular on zoom or common and so getting a camera well positioned you know in front of you at the right level is going to be something that's useful and what camo allows you to do is basically use your iphone or android phone as a webcam because the cameras on those are generally a lot better than regular webcams and so you don't necessarily have to invest in like a full studio just to level up on zoom just using your phone camera as a webcam and then getting a couple of lights to just improve the lighting or you know moving yourself so that you're improving the lighting is really going to help a lot and so there's a 10 discount off camo as well i've got an offer code for that but the final part is that as part of the ecamm masterclass because i think that you shouldn't be doing ecamm you shouldn't be doing zoom without ecamm please is my personal opinion then i'm actually just including the ecamm live masterclass as part of it because there's no point learning how to use zoom but then not knowing how to do the ecamm part to bring it in which is kind of i just see them as just such an integral part that i include the ecamm masterclass which is as i say you know that's 147 if you want to get that on its own and indeed if you're already a zoom master and you just need to master the ecamm part that is still available as a sort of standalone but that is included if you sign up to the ecamm live masterclass so that's an extra 307 dollars basically for all of that of value so the total of everything is basically 800 dollars for 497 but because i am such a fan of the ecamm live community and i consider my channel a little bit of an extension of the ecamm live community because well that's what most of my videos have been on so i do have an extra discount for everybody which is if you type in the offer code ecamm fam then there's an extra 20 off so actually all of that is just 397 so that is available at ecammlivemasterclass.com and so let me just go on then to talk about and by the way that is as i say lifetime access with all of those updates and as new things come out and that goes for the ecamm and the and the zoom course as well so with that said let's have a little look shall we at if i just pop this one out of the screen let's have a little look at some of those zoom the zoom icon pack that was talking about because i just do just want to touch on that i did cover that off on my other my other workshop as well but it's just worth mentioning about the icons for zoom or at least the uh the stream deck plug-in for zoom so let me just come over here for a second and i'll share with you my stream deck screen so i'll come over here beg your pardon i've got everything in in the right place so this is my stream deck and the icon pack that i created basically looks like this this is a little bit different to the um just the basic zoom plug-in so if i come over to the zoom plug-in in stream deck uh here we go so this is the the plug-in we've got by the way if if you're new to stream deck i've got a whole playlist on how to how to use stream deck from you know how to get up and running with it and everything like that so there is a playlist on my channel i'll go back and link that in the description as well but here in the zoom plug-in uh for stream deck we've basically got the ability to mute play uh turn on video share the screen or at least bring up this screen sharing we don't tend to use that though if we're using ecamp um then we've got focus which basically just brings eat the zoom window to the front so sometimes if you're doing stuff in zoom then you might have other windows that are over the top of it that button just make brings the zoom window to the to the front and we got the button there to leave meeting to avoid that awkward moment where the meeting's over you know everyone's then starts looking around hunting for the exit button um and then you've got ones here to toggle on uh recording as well uh ask everyone to unmute or mute all participants so there's those uh how many is that there's those eight functions that are built in uh as into the uh the zoom plug-in for for stream deck but there's this other one here create custom shortcut and that's what basically i've done with all of these other things because anything where there is a keyboard shortcut in zoom you can create a button for it in with this plug-in and it will operate the uh shortcut even if zoom isn't the active application so obviously you know there are keyboard shortcuts for zoom and it's great to know those but if you happen to be demonstrating something else in another application um then um uh zoom isn't the active application so what this does is this allows you allows you to control all of these things even if zoom isn't at the front and so the things we've got here is kind of like starting meetings things like that uh sending out an invite or copying the invite whilst you're in the meeting so if you've ever been in a meeting and uh somebody's late to the party and you need to just send them a message and say quick jump on this zoom call then you can just press a button to uh grab the meeting invite and then you can paste it uh wherever uh starting recording and stopping recording those are kind of built in but pausing your recording is useful as well if you're doing like a long meeting and then you are you know having a break or something you might just want to pause during the break showing and hiding the zoom controls as well that is a useful one sometimes it's good to get those off the screen uh this one here toggling between the gallery view and the speaker view and then also we've got this one for if you are have got multiple pages on gallery view so i'm often on meetings where there are you know more than 25 and in fact more than 49 as well uh because you can have either 25 maximum on the screen or you can toggle that to be uh 49 um so having these two here basically scrolls through the different pages of the gallery view popping open the chat uh this one is for um taking remote controls if you need to control someone else's computer you can take control there or you can relinquish the control uh switching cameras uh although i don't tend to do that i tend to stick to just only the the e-cam stuff but this is the the icon pack that i'm talking about that is included with the the course but you can actually just go and grab that if you want from the store so over on my store on take one tech we have also got a page take one tech to i o slash store you'll find the masterclass for zoom and e-cam as i say if you've already um the zoom course does include the e-cam masterclass anybody who's already bought the e-cam masterclass i have sent an email out to everyone um but they will just basically get that additional discount so uh what you could do you could always start with the e-cam course and then if you want to upgrade at a later date you will not only get the 20 discount but you'll also get the 147 off so you're never going to be paying twice because that wouldn't be right would it but down here you can see the icon packs as well so i've got icon packs for lots of things here but the ones included in the course are the zoom uh e-cam live and the keynote icon pack as well so um let's have a little look at a couple of these questions so elbert says are you running zoom e-cam youtube from one device or spanning across multiple devices in micro configuration i run zoom on my ipad uh and e-cam on my mac i'll be going through my setup on that other live stream actually on um on amazon so uh in fact let me just mention that again because it's a little bit of a different setup over there let let me answer your question first then i'll cover to that what i've actually got the moment is i have got everything running on one device but i do have a second computer so when i was doing things like uh demoing this uh you know other computer that was all done using it is is on a physical second computer and then i'm using the uh max built-in screen sharing to share the screen of that over onto my main computer and then i'm sharing that into e-cam another way that you can do it is you can actually have um e-cam as well as sending everything out to the virtual mic uh the virtual camera uh you cannot actually already also send it out as an ndi source so uh let me just come over here and i'll just quickly show you this because this is useful uh so if i come into demo mode so here i am in e-cam live and now if i come over here to go to output and i go to ndi output and then choose on and select the resolution right now everything that's coming out from this e-cam is going to be transmitted over ndi so that means that any other computer on the network that can accept ndi sources would be able to see it and in fact what i could do here uh i don't think i've got it on the other computer right so what i'd need to do here is let's just do this because it's quite a useful demo i think and i know that you're a fan of ndi albert so it is worth showing this let me come over onto my other computer for a second let me come over onto my other computer and what i'm going to do is i'm going to open up uh e-cam just quickly okay let's get it up where is it going i should have been a bit more prepared for this so where is my e-cam live window it's not funny no it's not seeming to play what i can do is if i go to output okay uh question what does ndi do exactly net ndi stands for network uh network oh i'm forgetting it's totally slipped my mind now it's basically it's basically a way to transmit video over networks is what it what it does so you don't need to have um a hard wired connection and that's what it is i don't know what's going on my mind's just gone a complete blank um but it is for network device interface is it um let's have a little look uh oh we've got the bots in um so what i can do now is if i come and do the go back into my live demo mode just quickly so what i've done is i've switched it on on the other computer so now here where i click on this one to change so this is a camera overlay you can see my camera and this is the my Canon it's selected there um but what you can see here is we've also got this one now alex macbook pro uh brackets e-cam live that is the ndi feed from the other one and you can see that now that's brought in the count that's basically the e-cam live feed from my other computer so that's what that is um and uh it's as easy as that so that is i don't know quite how we got on that other than the fact that we were talking about ndi uh but that is how you can use that with the um that's how you get and how did we get onto ndi uh i forget now i went off on a tangent as i often do um oh yeah it was because it was because elbert was saying how um was i using on two computers so to to offload some of the um some of the processing it would be possible to do that on two computers and bring it in like that another video that i'm going to do will be about how to use um zoom iso and what zoom iso does that actually creates a separate ndi source for for the people that are in your zoom call so what that means is in as with um interview mode where you can bring people into interview mode with um the zoom iso what you would do is if you wanted to have like lots of speakers and things like that um then you could have a one zoom going with all your speakers in and then you could have another zoom with the uh the audience and then using zoom iso you could select the speakers that you wanted to bring out of the zoom speaker zoom instance and then bring those into ecam as ndi sources um and so uh yeah that's that's a video for another another day um are the stream deck icon packs like plugins do the include instructions on how to set up the buttons they do so what i've done is the the icon pack for um zoom specifically is um as well as actually all the individual pictures so on zoom you get to the you know you can go in and create all these shortcuts and then add on the icon so you do get all of just the raw image files but because part of the issue is it's it's just a bit laborious to go through and actually add in all of these shortcuts if i just go back to that zoom for a moment this one down here so to use the um uh the zoom icon packs uh to use the uh sorry the zoom actions in here what they are using is actually this custom shortcut and each of these is basically using this custom shortcut action um but then what you'll see is you have to go in and basically map all of the keyboard shortcuts and you do it in a really weird way normally with a stream deck you actually just press like if you wanted to use control p for example you would just go and create a keyboard shortcut and then hold down the control and p and it would do it whereas here you actually have to physically type them all in uh control p and so on uh literally write out control plus p so what i've done is i've basically gone through a made all of those shortcuts and typed out all the keyboard shortcuts for you and then added in all the icons and so as well as the actual icons itself i've created the stream deck profile and there is a stream deck profile for the excel and also there is one for the uh the regular as well which is actually spread out over two pages and so the way that you add in new profiles if you've got a profile that you know in the download then you would come over to the preferences for your stream deck and then where you've got profiles click on the little down arrow here and then there's just an import button here a little import action and so you click on that and then it's going to think about it but it's going to bring up somewhere on my screen it will bring up the you know the finder window and i can just go and find the the plug-in and install it so yeah the download for the icon pack includes the actual icons themselves but also the profile already set up with all of the the shortcuts already mapped in there as well to to answer that question and let's have a little look at albert i tell you what to have a look at as well if you've not seen it albert is to have a look at um as part of the zoom workshop david paskin and andy carluccio did a presentation on the final day they were the last presentation and um i've been using zoom i so before but there's some great things in there for talking about as well how to integrate comments and things like that so you're bringing comments out of out of zoom but then bringing them into your presentation in ecow and stuff like that and andy carluccio by the way david paskin you may have uh seen him in the ecow live community rabbi david he does um uh Torah tech guy as well he's is another name for his um his sort of online presence but he does lots of stuff in zoom and tech related stuff very similar to the sort of stuff that i do as well so definitely check him out andy carluccio is actually the sort of the person who created zoom iso and uh they were bought out so his company liminal entertainment limited they were bought out by by zoom and because zoom wanted to just integrate this into there so there's going to be lots of development going on with it so so andy carluccio is literally the guy who invented it so definitely go and have a check up that uh that episode of or that session from the ecow live zoom workshop on the ecow live channel yet really interesting uh for me i'm totally geeked out on some of the stuff that they were talking about in there um so does ndi improve video quality it um it doesn't improve video quality but you get really great video quality out of it so it doesn't uh i mean i don't want to say it doesn't degrade video quality but you basically are getting 1080p you know just the same as you get out of the computer for sure there's might be some degradation but half part of the thing about ndi is that it was supposed to be a a sort of protocol for um uh for transmitting video with you know maintaining high uh high quality there let's have a little look i think i've got everything now what i need to do here is um i've basically got to 20 minutes before my next live stream starts i don't normally do two in a day um but it is the first time i'm streaming onto amazon live uh so it's going to be a bit of a test for me so we'll see how it goes because there's a few things that are a little bit different on there but what if you are interested in having a look at my setup and how i'm you know how i do all my live streams but also how i have it set up for zoom then uh yeah i've left a link in the description to that live stream or just go to take one tech dot live and that is going to take you over to this page so let me just show you because if you've never used amazon live before it's uh not quite the same as youtube obviously and uh it'll take you over to this page and so the first thing you want to do is click the follow button obviously and it the amazon live is a us thing so if you're not in the us uh you will you can still go and visit it you don't have to be there but it's just sort of linked to amazon us accounts so amazon live is only a us thing at the moment but like i said it's available for everyone to to watch at least and the way that it works is on the the live stream i'm not going to be able to bring up comments in quite the same way that i can hear like literally bring them up on screen um but there is a comments window down the side so you can certainly ask any questions and i can still bring them up but the other thing about amazon live is basically all the products that uh you're talking about can feature there as well so i often get people saying like oh where did you get that thing or what's that well here it's just all just literally down there they call this the carousel at the bottom so that means that um uh yeah you can go and have a look at all the different devices and things like that that i'm i'm talking about so that is that is a wrap up for this one thanks all for coming and if you've got any questions then feel free to reach out by by email or any of the other platforms are in the chat or in the comments or anything like that i know there will be people watching on on the replay as well and yeah great to see you all thank you all for for coming sorry about that little slight tech slip up i'll have to figure out exactly what happened with my sharing my guest presentation uh that'll be what i'll be doing i'll be scratching my head about that as soon as i get off here in fact but yeah great to see you all in the chat thanks for all for coming and i shall continue to put out lots of other great free zoom content too so i'm not just all about pushing the courses if you want to take the course that's fine but i will still be putting some more stuff out on the channel i've got a whole list of zoom related videos to put out on the channel and also for short tiktok videos and things like that as well thanks all for coming i will catch you again very soon and for those watching on the replay i will have a list of other videos coming up soon my loop deck's not connected one second what's going on here so that was going to be going to be a very smooth exit until until my loop deck was not connected where's it gone it's coming up here uh oh just quickly uh did i use camber and i used photoshop to create my my thumbnails i've not got into the camber thing uh but um yeah thank you everyone for coming and as i say for those watching on the replay finally it will come up now if i go to my end screen i had it for a minute there and then i've just lost it again now is it gone i suppose we could always just hang out here for another few hours couldn't we thanks all for coming again i have found it now so for those watching on the replay if you've made it this far check out these other videos going up next bye everyone