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Oh nice And he lives in Wisconsin Technically I could give him to come to the set But anyways Alright Let's just get this shindig going Hey everyone Welcome back to the Nintendo Prime Podcast Episode 103 The very first episode Recorded in April That's not the first one to release Because we did that one come out on April 1st We did Yeah I think so It wasn't a fool It wasn't a fool We didn't even make any jokes Because it wasn't recorded I think we were even thinking about it No that's right That's probably true I am your host as always With Andy Ruffel, Janice Join to my left and your right Bye Eric Moore And yeah That's all we have today We don't have any patrons or anything out today Sorry patrons I didn't get the post up yet I meant to get it up on Monday But it's been a hectic week So I will get it up Probably tomorrow I'm actually I'll probably put a note on my whiteboard To remind me So I'll get that up So you guys can sign up for Podcasts of this month And for those of you that are wondering What I'm talking about If you are a $20 back around Patreon.com Session 10 Prime You can be On this episode of the 10 Prime podcast every single month For $10 a month You get to watch it early On Thursdays Basically you get to watch The recording of the podcast And then for $5 a month You get the audio version The day early One dollar a month You get access to Our Discord server All this stuff So check out our Patreon Basically And before we get into Anything we do need to Do our Patreon fulfillment So if you are a $10 backer on Patreon One time per month We will read out your name And your pledge And thank you so much For your support For making this podcast possible So you guys Want to read out the first one? 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Horrible Third party accessory makers Have done wonders In trying to fix it From the metal kickstand Which might grind your system So it might not be the greatest one But it does work better Than the plastic one To various cases That have different types Of kickstands Different back plates You can buy to put On the back of your Switch And that has New kickstands So like they've already Try fixing the kickstand issue We have Hori Who came out with a D-pad Joy-con for the left joy-con So that's fixing the issue Where people want An actual D-pad On the joy-cons Unfortunately That joy-con Isn't wireless capable So it's only good And handheld So there is a drawback to it And I don't think It has HD rumble of course But you know Again it's a I wouldn't call that An issue I would call that a convenience Where Nintendo should have Released like bonus joy-cons You can buy with the D-pad And they haven't done it yet So Hori kind of Stepped in and provided Options for that We've also seen Many people out there Provide options for wireless Bluetooth headsets Little dongles You can plug into the USB-C port We've seen like microphones I can plug into the top Port as well to go along With it So you can kind of Have a completely wireless Experience All this stuff Is to address issues That the Switch Inherently has But there's one issue That has never been Really addressed In terms of just Hey You don't have to buy Anything extra Just use what you already have And that has to do With using headsets So we're talking Normal headsets With microphones That you see A lot of people use When they're playing on Xbox or PC or whatever Because the problem That Nintendo Switch has Is there's no way To hook up A wired version of that Or even a wireless The Bluetooth thing Obviously it's why They have the Bluetooth Dungles There's no way to hook up A wired version of that Conveniently In the past You've If you're using the Nintendo Switch voice chat app You've had to run Horses of multiple things With a splitter Or a dome But even if you Want to play Fortnite Which uses local voice chat In handheld mode It's fine Because you can just plug Right into the Headphone jack on the top But when you're playing On a TV Most people don't Have a 30 foot cable To run from their Switch to their Couch Because you have to run A cord all the way From the Switch over And that's not Necessarily the best Way to play And there's not Any on the Joy-Cons Now there is an Early design document That shows that The original plans For the Pro Controller Had a headphone jack But the final version Does not For whatever reason Nintendo has never Really addressed Why that's the case But what is interesting In all of this Is now A third party Controller goes up For pre-order Next month And this third party Controller By PDP A well known Accessory maker For Switch Actually my main controller Is a PDP controller They have this Face-off edition controller Where you can customize The faceplates And take them off And stuff that is A wired controller But It comes With an audio jack That it claims You can use For your normal headsets So again Third party Accessory makers Are fixing An issue That Nintendo Self created Weird So I guess my question To Eric is Is there anything else You want fixed Like Third party Accessory makers Are the one doing it I was on Nintendo To do it Yeah I just I don't understand The concept Oh jeez You don't want your screen Scratch You better get A third party Screen protection Right I just don't Understand the concept Of We've had You know Pro controllers With like The Xbox And stuff like that You know That type of Controller And part of me Is wondering is If the reason Why they scrapped the headphone jack Is because they knew Where they were going To go with the phone route But even then Why would people That want audio From their switch I don't know And not In animal mode Well obviously They don't care Otherwise they let you Use bluetooth wireless headsets When there's Blue 2000 Switch It's just Beyond blows my mind That Nintendo As much as I love the switch They find ways To screw something up I mean Like It's so baffling Because like On the Wii U You had it So like Why did they go backwards Yeah It It makes no sense to me How hard is it to put a Small little headphone jack On the side of one Of the joy cons Or something Or on the bottom Or on the bottom Like you have an IR camera On the one So fine Maybe not that one Then put it on the other one Our palms are generally Not underneath the joy cons Like this We're on the sides There's plenty of room To put a cord there Or put a hole It It kind of pees me off I'm not gonna lie I mean Granted Thank God Third parties are actually Stepping up and taking care of it Doing something about it Yeah And again This is a wired controller If I had to guess The reason it's wired Is because The Bluetooth technology That Third parties are now Allowed to use To have Bluetooth Controllers on the switch I don't think Can transmit audio So I think That's why it's wired Because you could plug in A USB headset Audio So Again It's still not perfect If you don't want a wired controller Right But At least It'll be a wire that's long enough And it's just one cord Yeah, it's an option And you conveniently Whatever headphones you have Heads that you have Heck You just have Like the Apple Airpods With the little mic on it You just plug it in Right You're more apt To have a longer USB cord Than you are Audio jack Audio jack Again We have long enough cables It Is there anything else You want to fix? I don't know I'm trying to think Any issues you've had With the switch They are kind of Even if it's a minor annoyance That isn't a big deal Triggers or Ergonomics Honestly though I think My My Right trigger Is starting to stick Top or bottom Top No, bottom Back one Okay, the big one Yeah, the big one Have you looked to see If it's dirty? I haven't But I don't really play my switch All that often So I'm like How the hell is anything Getting dirty? It sits in my case Okay So I don't know Or Feels like it's hard It's getting harder to push So it's I don't know I wonder if something broke Maybe That's happened before Another control I've had that I've had an Xbox control before Where like A plastic thing broke in there So it would like Get in the way And be trying to push it in I mean It looks like it's harder To push it Or it'll It doesn't have the spring It It kind of Will go down And then it'll kind of work Slowly work its way back up And it's like Seems a little interesting Might have to take Your Joy-Con apart Yeah, probably I don't know Other than I mean I don't know The The They still haven't fixed The Metal knobs Or plastic knobs Oh yeah The plastic knobs On the Joy-Cons Instead of putting them With metal So they start breaking Also Here's one This is actually for The next topic We'll just tie it right in Joy-Con Drift Yeah It has been discovered now Why there's Joy-Con Drift As you guys have any issues With the Joy-Con Drifting Especially that left stick I can tell you why it's happening now Someone finally took a part Of the Joy-Stick And figured it all out And How the Joy-Stick Kind of works is There's these contact pads inside That when you're Moving the stick around There's like these two metal prongs That move back and forth On the contact pads So for your X and Y axis And what's happening Is the metal prongs Are wearing down The contact pads Are putting a groove in it Which is leading To the X and Y axis Not being read properly So even when You're not touching the stick There's a groove So it feels like It's being pressed And because it feels like It's being pressed Ergo, your character's Now moving without you Touching the stick So That is a design flaw That is a straight up design flaw That other controllers Do not have Yeah Most controllers Do not have And there's nothing That can be done about that In the current switch Other than them Having a new All-new design joy-con stick And this also might be why People who do buy things Like the Hori replacement joy-cons Haven't had drifting issues With theirs Because they're using Their own proprietary sticks So, again An issue Nintendo self-created That doesn't need to exist And there's no reason For this to be a problem Because Nintendo has not Had this drifting problem With any other joystick They've ever made I mean we've had joysticks For how long? It's literally like It's either cheaped out Or I don't know Maybe the manufacturer That are using cheaped out Again, this also leads To the thought process Of They rushed this out the door But My thing is Why isn't it fixed by now? They're They fixed the dock Scratching So why can't you Why can't they Put a better stick In it So we get rid of drifting They have so many issues That they're trying to fix I don't know Waiting for the Switch Pro Waiting for the Switch Pro Exactly Or the Switch Mini I mean Heck They have so many issues Not even just with I mean With the Switch itself I mean The online The online services Garbo We've talked about that We've beaten that dead horse Multiple times Whipped it to Actually Just a question for you I read Are they stopping NES games? Okay So what happened is There was this pamphlet Hand out in Hong Kong Advertising the sense Of trying like service And on the page It has all the games listed It says Something along the lines of NES games will No longer be added After a period of time Whatever that period of time Is you don't know It could be years It could be tomorrow You don't know Okay But it's more so When I did my video on it My criticism of it Wasn't that They're obviously going to Have to stop adding them At some point It's that They're already talking About probably for legal reasons That they are going to Stop adding them at some point Before they announce What else they're going to Be adding Like How hard is it to announce Hey look We're adding NES games later this year Right So then like Oh so when we hear the Announcement though NES games are going to stop At some point Yeah but we know more is coming Right And instead it's like Oh now we have to worry About NES games might stop At any point Right And we don't have anything else Anything else Yeah Again I know they're being Transparent This is actually a form Of transparency Letting us know someday We might not get it Even though it's in a weird Pamphlet out in the middle I mean I just don't know Where their focus is at Because I mean you have all these Problems You have the Online service But then you have Then they decided That they had to create stuff For a store For the online service So it's like Okay You can create NES controllers Or NES Joycons Yeah Okay I mean Fix the ones that you Already have I mean Seriously But they already have The old controllers nailed down It's easier to do Yeah they do You're right It's easier to do You're right They had They didn't have a problem With that Yeah I saw those Um Yeah I usually don't pay attention To the chat that much During When we're doing these live Because we're only Doing this once a month But I just I mean someone's Super-chatted So hey Thanks amazing key For the support It's gone Yeah it just Frustrates me that I don't see where Nintendo's Focus is at And It doesn't seem like They're in a hurry To do anything To fix anything Themselves I think that I think the hardest part About Like Here's the thing We pray switch on the weekly Oh yeah And I think the hardest part In watching third parties fix Things is just Nintendo's lack of Admitting there's a problem Oh for sure Like if Nintendo could I'm not going to say That Nintendo should come on Just say the switch is garbage Like no But they can at least Be like hey we're aware That there are problems And we're working towards A solution Even just a general Statement like that Like hey we're aware That there's an issue With joy con drifting And we're doing research I'm working on a solution If you happen If you're joy con drifting Please send them in To our support team Or whatever Like they did that at first When people were having Connection issues Right they acknowledged That there was A connection issue With the left joy con And wireless They acknowledged that Was a problem And they said look Send it in And they did that With that problem Yeah But why can't they do it With anything else It's like We were willing to admit That this was a widespread Enough problem But everyone else Yeah this is too isolated We're not going to You will fix it If you send it in But we're not going to Admit there's anything Going on I think it's The cat's too far To the beggar You know There's so many At this point There's so many switches Out on the market then But this is Two plus years in Why couldn't More than a year ago Zoom But it's like You could have talked about How you were least aware Of these problems So we can assume They'll be fixing revision How we know the revisions Are going to have all the same Problems We don't Until they come So It's assuming they're coming And the thing is Again A lot of this is nitpicking Outside of people having Actual issues With their controllers Drift is a major problem People have bought Multiple sets of joy Contents All of them Be drifting Because that grinding Keeps happening And it's not about It's just about How much you're playing And the thing is Like you haven't had the problem Yet Because you don't play it enough To grind it enough And the thing is At $80 a pop That's That's That's a garbage They have dropped on I mean the 70 But still Wow I mean still Hey, for Nintendo That's what we do You're right You are very correct Older sets are 70 To be clear If there's new colors There's already But It's still At that much a pop And you're not Fixing the issue And you know That they're gonna Just wear out again But then again People are Just gonna keep buying them Because they have But that's But that's the caveat Is it a Purposeful thing Companies make products On purpose at Where else do you have To keep buying new ones I realize that But it shouldn't It shouldn't be They want you to keep buying It shouldn't be under Two years It shouldn't be under Two years It shouldn't be under A year It's under a year See they don't never want it To be under a year Because that's warranty They always want it to be Just after a year About a year and a quarter A year and a half Like give them a week A week pass Then they can bring Buy new ones Cause like I need Joy-Cons Straight up Like the problem I'm having I've never heard anyone Unless I have My Joy-Cons And I do need to Test this stuff I gotta get yours I gotta make sure That it's my Joy-Cons Not my Switch I'm having an issue Especially in Smash Bros But it's happening Well, my controllers Just disconnect And power off Like they died But they didn't die And if I disconnect And if I take them off The Switch And re-sync them, they're fine But every like Five, ten minutes It happens It's really annoying So I basically Do not play in handheld anymore And again I don't know if my Joy-Cons Not sure if it's my Switch Will have to do that Test it It's a problem Either way Right And if it's a problem With the Switch Then what the Right If the Joy-Cons are broken When it first But I haven't had an issue When it died That's the thing I gotta put my Joy-Cons in here You had a Yeah, I mean When my No, but when it died The fact that it just Kind of froze And didn't allow me to do Anything Was just like Oh, well, alright So The big thing is That I'm glad third parties Are fixing this stuff Oh, God, yeah But they shouldn't have to I'm not saying that The third party accessories Are the greatest Are the best Some of them really Are amazing I use a Pro controller replacement That if it had rumble That's the only thing that's missing to me It just needs rumble If it had rumble I would never buy A Nintendo Switch Pro controller again I had too many issues with it So I honestly For everything the Switch gets Right from the form factor To the games Yeah I even like how Simplified the OS is I like the speediness Of everything The convenience of docking And undocking I think it's actually The right amount of portable I don't mind that It's in general I don't really mind that so much Because I never liked Having my game device In my pocket anyways You know I never put my 3DS in my pocket Or my 2DS Maybe Game Boy Color When I was a kid But my original Game Boy I always had in a case I've been buying cases For my portables forever So like I've never really I never cared if it was pocketable Because to me Heat pocket No Like I do it with my phone And I don't even like Doing it with my phone That's why my phone Spends a lot of time Like in the front pocket Of a jacket like this Rather than in my pants The idea of battery Heat body No thanks I'd rather just have the device Safer in its own thing But Safer for me too I was going to say Also next to your unmentionables Heat tends to You know Lower the I don't know what that is I don't need more children So maybe you should put your phone In your pocket So I I don't know Like I'm glad that a lot of these Things are coming up And there's modifications I'll probably do to Like my current switch right now If the switch world comes out And I upgrade And I get my older switch From one of my kids Like you know I'm gonna do some You know some modifications to it To make it safer for my kids For trying to love Like I worry about that sometimes Like not that it's a dangerous But That Like how Easily this thing's being damaged And my kids barely touch My switch But when they do Every time I get it back It's like they played it For five minutes And it suddenly has another Another thing going on with it And I know my kids I don't know what's going on But still it's like Right It shouldn't be that easy I've never I've had my kids touch Like the SNES Classic Yeah God they played the hell out of that Thing There's nothing You couldn't even tell It's still brand new Like and they've tossed The damn controllers And it's like Again Well we've already established Designed it They already got The old school The old school quality Yeah And they've already got that Covered We've already established That part They took a joy con And they're gonna survive But it's I mean Can you Okay so you have an issue With the bumper On the right Like is there anything else Um I know I don't know how But I know My case is cracked A small little bit I mean Granted it's tiny Tiny crack Right up next to the Headphone Jack Yup Okay Um That's a common I don't remember If I have a Chip or not My screen But I think That just might be My protective glass Um If I remember correctly Yeah Yeah I'm 90% sure it's my Protective glass But um I'm trying to think of What else I have I Don't think my Switch is bent I think mine is Um Pretty sure mine's Been Mine might have a Small bit I mean It's not It looks worse than it is Because the back plate That I have Is kind of warped a little Bit and it was warped When I put it on So it looks worse than it Is I'm wondering Now that you say that Yeah I think mine might It's not terrible It's not terrible That I would notice If I wasn't looking for Right Right Um But again That's another thing Why is it bending Why is it bending That's another thing That we never mentioned Um The fact that this thing Yeah The fact that this thing Can't dissipate heat Very well Obviously That's what we assume That's called Yeah With the cartridge Flat Some people I've heard of some people I haven't had an issue with it But I know some people Said they do No I just don't like the design Of it I think it's too flimsy Okay Granted I know It's just a rubber Flat thing It's meant to not Snap Yeah It's meant to be Open and close A billion times Right I mean It's the same kind Of rubber thing We've seen on A zillion other products Pretty much So you don't see it On a lot of adult products For sale Right I don't know If I like the design Of it Old phones used to have Those rubber things too They don't anymore Now they're all You need a pin To open things up Yeah But I don't know If I want a pin To get a switch Right Right Um Yeah No I don't I'll have troubles With it It's sticking Every once in a while But nothing Terrible And then Then it finally opened And I'm like Alright Good enough But Trying to think of other Things that I haven't Had any issues With my Joy-Con Sliding on off With the The nubs Yeah Haven't had that Yeah Well you probably Haven't put the things On the wrong way No I've had my Again I've got to bring my Dock over Because I've had problems With my Dock Yeah I don't know How the plug Plug a damn cord into it Like the angle of it For me Is just a pain In the Pain in the ears To get The HDMI cord in it Yeah Bands are probably I don't know So it's Huh Yeah I mean that's easy To take a part and fix And sometimes I'm Kind of wondering If my power Should have to take it I'm kind of wondering If my power Jack is Jacked up too Because My power To my Dock Oh To your Dock Yeah I don't like I don't know Okay And then all of a sudden It'll just Turn back on I'm like Alright Cool So Well we got Check your Dock over there See I haven't had Any issues with the Dock Per se Not even scratching Like I don't have A screen protector I'm on right now And I haven't had Any scratching So I haven't had Any issues with the Dock Yet I don't really think About the Dock too much So I don't know I mean The bottom line is There's been a lot of these Little nagging issues That I'll add up To just be an annoyance Is that we're not used To dealing with as Nintendo consumers Again Red Ring of Deaths Yeah You know Nubsticks breaking On the DS4s On PlayStation 4 The cracking And all that Was happening At least at the beginning Of the era Of this generation Like we've seen issues With other people I mean the NES And the blowing Which they tell you Not to do But whatever Everyone knows it works Yeah Or the fact that When you Technically with the front Loading NESs It bends the pins When you push down The cartridge So technically The front motors were Not the best design In the world Still work I mean We could say Not the best design In the world But a lot of them Are still working Like 40 years later So I mean Yeah I mean The NES In theory Better design But I have All the better designs That don't seem to last As long for other reasons Yeah Not related to Loading of things But still So yeah I Honestly I know it's a lot Of nitpicking But it adds up And I'm glad the third parties Are fixing things And they'll continue To fix things It's just Again It's Your favorite Nintendo Has the quality control That I know Again It feels like it adds to that It really does It does But like Why I'm just used to I guess I'm just so used to better Maybe I'm interested In the spoil by Nintendo Like I have issues with my phone I have issues with Every other electronic I ever have But I've never had a problem With an Nintendo product It just works Right Until now I mean The only other issue I even remember growing up Was the N64 stick breaking Getting the white powder That was just a bad designed stick But Yeah That's the only issue In the 90s Like I don't have it Like I guess some people had a problem With the hinges on the DS3DS But I never had that Ran into that problem So Like Literally I've never had a problem With anything Nintendo From my god I've had a few problems With Like Chords Where they connect in But that's mainly from Wrapping Oh yeah Well If you wrap your Yeah You're not Supposed to do that So You're kind of Yeah No Anyways Um So Uh I guess we'll move on to Our only other topic And this is more on Maybe on the positive side Yeah So Switch can VR now Yeah What I mean We knew it could VR For a while We've talked about VR Like There's been the patents Way back in the day Yeah And then they announced Labo VR Which I still think is really A reduction to VR for kids And I'm like I don't think screen resolution Is gonna matter Apparently Switch's screen resolution Is better than the OG Oculus So like For everyone It's like Oh The switch and the screen resolution Is gonna be so bad I'm like Well did you enjoy The first Oculus Rift Because it had a worse screen So I don't know what to tell you Um I don't think that's Really A big deal Yeah Or as big a deal As people make it out to be Yes Ideally we want OLED So I honestly think That The level of VR is fine It's brilliant I'm glad they have a cheaper Entry starter kit Level of 40 bucks Um And I just thought It was gonna be at that Maybe they'd release a few more Kits for it But that's pretty much it That's just That's Nintendo's VR That's what they're gonna do And they're just gonna Let it be this family thing And by the way It releases I think on April 12 So it's coming up pretty quick So I actually Need to get my hands on one Especially now Because Apparently It's more than just An actual reason And the reason why The podcast is tonight Yeah Because the news broke And I had to cover it Um Yeah Switch does Normal VR Explain Explain Uh Yeah So Breath of the Wild And Super Mario Odyssey Now have VR support As of the 25th of this month So it's not right At launch of the Chuggles But that's probably That's when the update's coming out Uh So basically the entirety Of Breath of the Wild Will be playable in VR With the Nintendo Lab of VR Um Outside The cutscenes they note Will not Like you can probably Obviously watch them With the goggles on But they won't be in 3D or VR Uh Those will just be Like movie theater mode I assume On the cutscenes So All the cutscenes Because they're all pre-rendered And they probably weren't Gonna re-render them out To be VR That's probably The reality While that's the case Mario Odyssey's Just gonna be like A specific new mode That they're adding So it's kind of Like they're just Experimenting Who knows If it works out really well Maybe they'll add it to The whole game But they're just Experimenting right now Or maybe make a whole Maybe Super Mario Odyssey 2 Will have Who knows VR for VR Yeah So tune Right Like They put it in Zelda for the entire game But to me Means anything Mario Kart It means quite a bit It's Okay So at first It's this neat little family thing Now You're telling me this is Legit VR Is what you're telling me Like This is no longer Like a little family thing We're talking Zelda We're talking Mario Right Like actual VR Is what they're advertising to say Nintendo Labo VR Right Like Right How How What I I can't be good Can it like Right I also want to point out Nintendo Actually did something You have been Generally Admittedly against VR And now It's all of a sudden I have to get it My hands on this But I need to get My hands on it And I kind of Try it Yes I know Not because I actually think it's good What did I just say It can't be good Yeah I mean Right That's what you're getting at I don't really say that I don't like VR Yes But But the fact that they were Able to actually Like I'm just curious It can't be good Yeah I'm not going to say I've Never had a good VR Experience It's just never been Something I've viewed as It was always Felt gimmicky to me Like Even like playing Beat Saber Like it's cool It's fun But it's still kind of Gimmicky Like I'm not going to do That at my home You know At an arcade great But Breath of the wild VR I mean I know That's not first person So it's third person VR Which is fine And I mean I saw a lot of the How It's like I'm going to run through the woods And the trees are going to Wish-pash my Like what's going on Yeah I don't know How does this work Are you going to Are you going to include the fan module With the VR So I can like Step on the pedal Have the wind flying by me Is that right my horse Or is it paragliding Paragliding Yeah Can I do the paraglider With the damn thing They're not going to do that Because you need both controllers to play Well like Maybe they like Suck a sip of the joke And think up so you can put it in the Yeah I mean But Okay I'm excited By the idea that Nintendo is somehow Potentially treating this As serious VR Right It felt like Okay it's okay Because it's just a kid thing Introduction to VR But now it's like But Nintendo's now saying Hey by the way You can use it in these Serious games And that opens the door To potential future Uses in serious games And it's like Nintendo If we don't get a Pokemon Snap 2 This generation When you're putting it in Zelda I'm going to be Or have well And you also have one of your You also have a camera thing One of your One of your little 64 games Is a camera game Yeah that you can't tell me You can't get a Pokemon Snap 2 Out But yeah that's That's a little bit off The Zelda out I'm I'm like I was speechless when I did it I'm speechless now Yeah right Okay you have actually been excited About VR in the past I've never actually Really played VR Experienced it Right But the concept of it To me So what about this excites you? Or does it not? It excites me a lot I just I think the fact that I can I know you're getting it I'll More than like Will be able to experience it Because Obviously But I think just to be Another level of Immersion into the game Might be Might take things to another level Well that's always been The Advertisement for VR is Immersion You can immerse you in a way You're not going to get Just looking at a screen I've never felt it The Beat Saber is probably The closest I've been And even then Felt like kind of A neat thing Rather than I'm like Imagine it like I already get immersed When I play Breath of the Wild Especially on my own Like when no one around Big screen It's awesome But it's like Imagining that being Imagine that I feel like I'm in that world That I am That I am a god Looking down upon Like in the actual world Right Like Even imagine that Opening shot Where he's running out Like I'm just like In VR But it's not But But it's going to be Cut scene No Cut scenes are like the memories That's when that happens In the actual game world That's not a pre-rendered cut scene That's where you lose control Of your character Well, you do lose control Of your character when He starts to run They mean the actual cut scene Like before It comes up with the Breath of the Wild part of it When it starts to run There's actually like a load screen Going into it That's a seamless It just takes you over That's the title But like Whatever You can do that without Whatever Right, exactly What? Yeah Yeah, it's one of those things that I could feel like I'm living Like Holy crap, wait, wait, wait Did we actually find something That shuts Nate up? It doesn't have words for I don't know what this I could tell you experienced that Right I've experienced VR before And I think it's neat But I never thought It was going to be mainstream Have you ever had a A game That was similar to Breath of the Wild Where you're like You're in an actual World Not like Beat Saber Where you're just kind of From what I've seen of Beat Saber You're just kind of standing there Swinging your Well yeah But you're inside this Like Like tunnel kind of thing Right But not like an actual open Wait, they've They've had World Resident Evil 7 I've tried It's really cool with VR But it's like But I don't know that I prefer it more than Just playing on a TV And that's not really Open World per se I don't know if I've Played a fully Open World game in VR I'm sure there's something that exists But I haven't experienced it So That might be Something that Actually takes it to the next level then for you To actually bring you Bring you in to the VR To me the concept It's more of the concept right now to me That excites me Well and there's certain things We have to Has to happen Because right now The only way that I can even imagine how this works If you look at all the Advertisements for the level of VR There's no head strap Right There's nothing to set it in Like virtual avoid Like at least lean into it Or whatever It's a I want to be holding it like this To my face That part I'm like no If that's how I'm playing Breath of the Wild If I have a hold of it to my face With the joycons up here Like no Just doing this right now Like my elbows are Already starting to hurt And I'm not even holding anything Right So like Doing that temporarily For a minigame fine Doing that for A game that I want to sit down For hours Exactly I mean No But If there is a head strap Accessory They just haven't unveiled yet That comes in the box Because it just doesn't work With any of the That stuff But it works with You know The VR stuff in the future That's a bit different Now Because I didn't know You know When you look at the design Of it There's these two notches And indents That go on That you think are Connection points But And while it might connect The cardboard and everything What if it also Is probably heavy But I mean Your headsets in general From what I've Warned They probably Could be a hell of a lot heavier If they weren't cardboard Yeah Exactly I mean You gotta look at That way too I'm a classic and be Pretty light too So Yeah It's I am just If they include A head strap of some type I think It'll be interesting to see Because then They could use this For so many games Right I know In the one In the comments That You know This It doesn't look like It changes anything Well You can't You can't In a video You can't really If you watch videos Of Beat Saber If you watch videos Of any VR game Just watch a video It's a video You're watching A video The VR Is You are inside Of the game You can't mimic That experience In a video The closest you get In video Are the 360 videos And then You're still That only really works Well If you are That is the one Okay I will say this About phone VR I think phone VR Isn't that great But The 360 videos Are kind of cool In phone VR When you turn The gyroscope on And look around It's kind of cool That's like Any movie theater mode Or 360 video I think is really cool With the phone VR But other VR games On phones Are just kind of Gimmicky And just whatever It's like You're trying to Bring you into the game And you can't You try to simulate That as much as you can Like you'll see Even YouTubers They'll be like Here's me on the headset And I'll green screen it Try to make it look Like I'm in the game But the bottom line Is that's not You're trying to simulate What it feels You're not really Going to get the truth So like Yeah I'm sorry When they show Breath of the Wild Being played in VR And they just show Breath of the Wild On the screen What do you expect The lenses Are what make VR work Especially people know How important the lenses are Without the lenses VR does not exist So like We're not We don't have the lenses on Ergo we're never Going to be able to tell And even if we did We're not looking at the right thing In the right mode Right We're like We're looking at Right You know they're not Putting you two images Up on the screen They're presuming That you have lenses at home That you're watching it through Right No It's an ad Right And this Like yeah They made it cool by like Taking the kid and putting him Inside the world But like Yeah That's not exactly how It's going to be No They're trying to Make you understand What it's going to be That's more of a concept thing That you feel like You're in the game You can't actually Really show the world Wrapping around you Literally It's hard to Actually physically show it Yeah So as long as there's A head strap And even if there's not Telling you By the time There's going to be There's going to be A third party accessory Fixing the problem You do realize You do realize What's going to happen I'm going to end up Being like this Setting the face plate Here And going like this And playing like this For three hours No Because it's cardboard Crushed the cardboard I'll find something soft To put it on I don't know But it's going to be here And I'm going to be Thawed And then playing Guys Lay it back Either way Then you got to hold Your hands up And throw it on your face And let gravity hold it down And then play No I'm going to duct tape it I swear If they don't come with a strap Or then We obviously got to make a video Of this is the best way To enjoy VR on On Zelda You just We just make a video And we're like Oh Can't get to your Can't get to your thumb sticks Take a knife With it on your head Poke it Yeah Right Obviously do not try this at home But No We can make If they don't come With the straps The strap We can We can make the What's the best way To hold this against your head So like An NBA headband Hey You can tie us You can duct tape it to your head You can Football helmet Yeah Yes Yes Yes You can tie a soccer On your head You can You can slam your face down On the table You can lay back On your bed And let gravity do it I mean That's That's a good Handful of awesome Fun video right there Oh man Yeah this is I'm kind of excited Just to try it I think it's going to suck Either Because they're not going to Put the strap And they just plan to Hold it to your head And just say Oh this is kind of neat And then be done Yeah Or It's just It's going to be super blurry And I'm going to hate it It's not going to work As well as we hope But I mean It could all just be It You know It could just be terrible My expectations Are that it's going to be terrible So my thing is My expectations are that way That anything less than terrible I'm going to be impressed by Right Because it's like But this is Nintendo Now granted As I said It's Nintendo That should give you confidence And the quality of the system Build and everything But Dude They're touching Mario And Zelda They don't want to mess With the perception Of Mario and Zelda Right So if they're going to put VR on those games They're going to make sure that It has to be something That's quality Exactly I don't know how Yeah Don't know why Yeah But they're doing it That is crazy Everyone keeps saying that Oh I do have to say this though Even though I'm not someone Who's excited about VR Um There are some naysayers That are mad that Nintendo Is doing this They're even doing VR at all Because They're worried that this is Going to harm the reputation Of VR We talked about this before And it's cropping back up Again Now that VR is going to be Games on switch Now they're like This is going to ruin people's Perception of VR All I can say to that is If you're worried That Nintendo Labo VR Is going to ruin the perception Of actual VR for people Where were you The reputation Where were you When all of these $5 headsets Were releasing at Walmart And Amazon For phone VR That literally do nothing They literally The lenses in them Are just plain Glasses They do nothing There's no VR If you're so worried About the reputation Of VR Being harmed by the Nintendo Labo VR Where were you With the millions of these Things that sold to kids That already ruined The perception of VR To kids I was going to say There was a perception Of VR I mean That's the thing I honestly think it's One of the most elitist Comments I've ever heard In my life I understand That you want VR To be mainstream Because you're a big VR person And Labo's ruining the perception Right And it's Again When Labo has better resolution Than the original Oculus Rift I guarantee you It's because it's cardboard Guaranteed Guaranteed Guaranteed because it's cardboard If it was plastic I guarantee you Nothing would be Nothing would probably be said It's It's the cardboard Why Because cardboard To us is trash Grab We're going to my Labo piano Quick Cardboard is Something we But cardboard We just Throw away We recycle We do It's trash It's literally garbage I've had this Labo piano Since Labo came out Right And like Yeah Obviously it's movable You can take it back apart The bottom line is though It's like a year old It's still fine It still works So like The head gear If you look at the head gear The actual lenses Are inside a hard plastic thing anyways So It's going to be more durable than usual Anyways Because you're basically just Shrouting plastic in cardboard To make it more comfortable So It's still the I guarantee you It's still the concept of cardboard It's going to be $40 for cardboard Yeah Well fine You're paying Say you're paying $40 for the lenses That actually make VR work Right Yeah It's not the cardboard You're probably paying nothing for the cardboard It's probably paying everything for the lenses And the software And the software So like And Here's the thing For two of those people complaining Well I'm sorry I guess you're going to have to worry About VR being ruined Because ever since this was announced For Super Mario Odyssey and Zelda Both VR Label kits Both the starter kit And the big $80 one Have jumped up to number one And number two on sales For video games On Japan On Amazon So I guess be concerned Yeah Be concerned Because millions of people Are picking it up now Yeah As soon as they announced Oh this is going to be in Zelda And Mario Especially the $40 one Which is clearly number one Because hey This way to get in $40 sweet We'll try it Like everyone's like Hey dude for $40 we'll try Yeah great And there is a concern That the ploy here Is that it's going to be horrible But they did it Because And the reason it's not there at launch Right So you're not even going to have reviews Of what that VR is like At launch Of Label So like The other thing And the idea is Nintendo is trying to sell as many Of these VR Label Things as they can Even if it sucks True Which is possible Yeah We can't dismiss that possibility But still But Clearly I know people are interested In the idea of trying it But again though To buy it They wouldn't I What if it's the other way though They wouldn't put it in Zelda and Mario If they weren't confident That this was going to be A different experience Even if it's not great Something that you're going to Look at at least the first time This is kind of cool Yeah Even though it's not But you know it's kind of neat Right But they're interested in where This could go And something designed for it That's what makes me think That you know It's not one of those We're just trying to push it It's going to be crap We're just trying to push it Because of the fact that they put it In Zelda and Mario Well That's the reason why Because I don't think They're going to put it Purposely They're going to purposely put it In Zelda and Mario They would have found They would have did Yoshi They would have Kirby They would have did Something That's kind of a Not You know They're top of the line Main Watch yourself Games Watch yourself I know Kirby says everyone in Smash Watch yourself I know I know But you know Yoshi You know what I mean You're my boy You know what I mean They wouldn't put it In their Main Main Line Games It would be In something like Rusty's A minigame offshoot You know What's that That Armadillo game they have I always forget what it's called They've had a few of them come out They're actually not that bad Dylan's rolling western or whatever Like it's actually not that bad of a game But like it's not something that Like if Oh my god the reputation Chibi robo Like they already wrecked that reputation Right Chibi robo that was exactly One of that I was thinking of too They would have put it In something like that Yeah It wouldn't probably have Pushed sales But It would have shown Probably not as much Confidence But what if See everyone looks at it Or maybe this is just a ploy To sell more VR It's actually gonna suck What if it's the exact opposite What if Nintendo knows This is awesome as hell But no one will No one will buy it Unless it's tied with a major game Right So like you know what We're gonna get everyone to buy it Because of these major games They're gonna try out Even just the Labo VR And they're gonna be like Okay this is actually Way better than I thought Yeah There's this perception around VR There's a perception around VR That if you do not have Any HTC Vive Or the latest Oculus Rift With all the cameras set up In a powerful PC With the 4K Or 1440p lenses Or the 1440p screen Running at 144Hz Or whatever Like if you don't have All this top-of-the-line stuff That VR is horrible That is the perception That exists over there Right Anything less than that Is not worth doing And I It's possible Slowly admit that VR Is at its best When it's like that Absolutely No argument there But on a mass consumer level How often have mass consumers Not cared If things are at the absolute best They can be You want to know how I know Consumers don't care We have switches in the first place We buy consoles in the first place If we just cared All things being the absolute best They could be We'd all be building high-end gaming PCs Yeah Even mid-range gaming PCs Right That's what we would be doing My GTX 1070 With my Ryzen 2700X Even when I had the i7-6700K Crushes an Xbox One X It's not even close It's not even close Right Yeah But Most consumers Don't care About having the best Of the best of the best experience What they care about Is having an experience They enjoy Right And not too many people Could probably afford We The best of the best Of the best VR experience We Because of the PC Price The places you should move Controllers are better On an HD platform Everyone was playing Motion Controls on Wii Sub HD Like Yeah Yeah People don't always care The mass consumer base Don't care about the best Of the best experience You can have your elitism With the best of the best In an ideal world That's affordable And everyone can have that crap But to have the best Of the best VR experience Right now costs thousands of dollars Yes And people don't have That kind of money So what you need to hope Labo VR is Is better Than those cheap phone Alternatives If it is Significantly better Than phone VR With those cheap Ten-dollar glasses Than you have to give Nintendo credit You have to sit back and be like Hey They just made VR acceptable By the masses Right For an affordable price too 40 bucks with the system They already own Also That's what PlayStation VR Was supposed to do And this is even cheaper than that And the thing is too Is if this actually does go well Maybe it's going to lead to Other people trying to find Better ways to do VR Cheaper Better ways A different way of actually You know Doing VR Presenting VR This could spark innovation For VR Maybe If it's If it's Well there's so much focus On the high end Right And PlayStation VR Is the middle ground That's supposed to be The affordable VR solution That's best and enjoyed If you buy a 300-dollar PlayStation 4 Pro Or 400 when it came out And then you buy A 200-dollar PlayStation headset And you better hope That you have the PlayStation Camera to go with it Because the camera's 100 bucks on its own And the camera is needed If you want the most Accurate experience Not required But needed if you want The best experience And then you better buy A couple of PlayStation Move controllers to go along With it And before you know it You just drop a thousand bucks At the launch of PlayStation VR You drop a thousand bucks If you wanted the best VR experience If you didn't already Own all the stuff So it's like It's still It was cheaper But not necessarily The Quote-unquote Best way to experience VR But less than the cost Of a new game Here's VR Right I mean It's hard to argue That Nintendo's offering The cheapest Entry, price point Into potentially Some form Of actual VR And I know if people are like But it's still a tablet How's it gonna be different Than phobia? The lenses make everything It's all about the lenses If they nailed Those lenses Yes It's not gonna be Ideal HD But guess what? I don't know People know this Sickness in VR Is not caused by resolution You obviously Always prefer higher resolution But when you get Motion sickness in VR It's not related to resolution It's related to the frame rate So if they Make all of these Experienced This is gonna be the problem With Zelda in particular It's only 30 FPS So I do worry About the motion sickness In Zelda Because of the frame rate But Is that Is that The frame rate being 30 Or is it because It's 30 and a sickness Okay That's what I was going with Is it because The frame rate Is variable That's why you get the sickness Or is it because it's a 30 There's a combination of factors Basically motion sickness happens When there's a difference Between your eyes Seeing your eyes here Okay so When you're like Out in the ocean The reason that people Get motion sickness on the ocean Is because they're Seeing these ways When they might be hearing Something else And it's not all Your body's moving this way Your eyes are seeing waves Move the other way And then you're hearing waves Hitting the side of the boat After That already there So all of that Combines messes up your senses It gives you motion sickness Not everyone gets motion sickness That's why there's plenty of people That love being out on the sea And on the ocean And don't have any problems And not everyone gets motion sickness In VR no matter what Not everyone Eyes bug out When you go to a 3D movie But it does happen For some people And what VR Tries to do And this is why When you need the highest Of highest end Is that smooth frame rate What you hear And how your head moves Is basically all simultaneously At the exact same time There's no stutter in it There's no delay Or the delay is so minimal Your body can't notice it And doesn't process it differently And that's the concern With this VR Especially at 30 FPS Because most games at 30 FPS Don't stay at 30 FPS And even then Our eyes might be processing What's going on the screen Faster than what the screen Is showing you Then you have the sound Coming in And it can cause motion sickness So that's why They always say The best VR experiences At 120 FPS or higher Because it's very hard It's much harder It's easier, I guess To trick your brain Because VR is tricking your brain When you're doing VR You're not actually in the world It is a mind trick To get you into the world So it's The higher end VR Is better at tricking your mind Than low end VR So it's The resolution has nothing To do with it Nothing that you Have to do with your enjoyment Of it But not motion sickness Resolution, like I don't have motion sickness In my glasses I talked about this last time Everything is blurry to me right now I can't read anything I know that chair says maximum I can't read it I know this Like the top of the camera I can't even tell where the top is It says Lumix I know that But I can't read it I can't read it I can vaguely tell that That thing back there says Nintendo Prime That's like because you know It says Nintendo Prime Like even reading the chat right now I see those words I don't know what the words are Now I know what the words are Like the world is blurry to me Like the world is blurry to me All the time I don't get motion sickness From the world being blurry I might get a headache And the headache I get Is because I'm squinting So if the blurriness causes you To squint a lot Then yes You will get a headache But you won't get motion sickness Big difference Motion sickness isn't caused By blurriness It isn't caused by resolution My world In actuality With all my glasses Is not an HD Not an Ultra HD Not in 27,000K I guarantee you right now I probably view the world At 240p If we're gonna put a resolution on it Nice Like put this on I'm probably back up to 1080 Yeah It's probably higher than 1080 But still It's a correlation to understanding How motion sickness happens So yes This VR can exist And people that have motion sickness problems Might not have a problem with it All about how well it's done I think the lab of VR stuff Will be better at it Than say Zelda That wasn't built specifically for it Maybe the stuff in Mario Odyssey That is built for it Works better And that runs at 60 So I don't know what it runs like in VR Because again You do it to split it Two images I don't know Maybe it only runs at 30 But I'm I'm interested just to see what this is What it's like And I do think that this Serves as Basically you have crappy phone VR All right PlayStation VR High end VR Okay I think There has to be something Between crappy phone and PlayStation Because PlayStation is still Not necessarily consumer friendly To get into it And I think lab of VR 340 bucks to get into it System plus the kit That feels like a middle ground to me Now you're talking about something Consumers can look at And be like hey I tried that And it's really cool I might pick it up Especially if we start getting Cheaper switches in the future So I don't know I think this is This has the potential to I don't know if anything can make VR go mainstream But I think this has a better chance Of making VR go mainstream Yeah So I might not be that excited for VR I am interested to try this out No I'm more curious It has my curiosity It does help that it's in I'm always curious about VR Well yeah I know But even if it wasn't It could have just been an odyssey I don't care Like I am curious I was already curious With the lab of stuff But then I heard some Reviews about it And everyone pretty much Had nice things to say They got to try it out in person But I'm like But still you know Family stuff And I'm like I don't know Like I'm only one of my kids Or old enough to even do it So I don't know If it's really worth picking up And then And then it's like Well they're gonna do this So now I have to try it at least So We'll see We shall see Bare minimum If nothing else In the background of videos Somewhere on these shelves There'll be a pair Of VR goggles For Switch So Just like the lab Was on the background For the longest time Until I ran A space on the shelves Whatever Yeah Another shelf No I just got to Move some stuff here Wait I got to look at the camera Maybe the best place to put it This is the most visible shelf Yeah Gonna have to go here Sorry Raphael From outer space It's time to move on You're gonna have to Sky Rock and roll Like Hey don't get the Don't get the Don't get the Afternoon delight You're gonna get a copyright claim now Thanks a lot They're trying to make the singing So bad Yeah Yeah What are you doing Afternoon delight No Alright Oh lord Do you have anything else You want to say about Switch VR? No I'm excited Cool Other than that No I don't really have Anything else to say Alright well I think it's Gonna wrap it up then For episode 103 Of the Nintendo Prime Podcast Just a couple topics But we kinda wanted To keep it a little shorter Wanted to keep it shorter Last week We actually technically Were shorter But we had like A full 40 minutes But I actually Wanted to cut this one Short as well And a big deal Well also The fact that it's just us too And we're not cutting a Patron short Kind of a big deal Right and it's just us too And we're not cutting a Patron short So Yeah I'm gonna cut a Patron from just kidding Yeah Seriously Be sure to check out Our podcast on Patreon.com If you want to get This podcast Even the audio version On Sunday Before it releases Publicly on Monday Also this video version Once it's no longer Live cause this one Was recorded live Publicly $20 Backers On No $20 Backers We'll have it the same day I guess I mean $20 Backers Could be on Episode of the podcast Yes You can also find our Podcast on iTunes On Google Play Through the Google Podcast app You can also find it On the website On centerprime.net I think it's like Slash podcast Whatever Just remember that Click on podcast Yeah And that I think is The last part You can find it Well Okay I'll wrap up first Yeah So that's it Thank you so much for tuning in I'm Nathan Rovejans From NathanRoveprime And this is Eric Moore You'll find me on Twitter at NintyPrime And then me at Emo8790 Alright folks Thank you for tuning in We'll catch you later Peace Bye